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June 3, 2025 • 49 mins

Ever wondered about the difference between the medical and social models of disability? šŸ¤” This episode dives deep! Join Jude, Alessio, and Isabelle, as they explore how society creates barriers, the impact of cultural backgrounds, and practical applications within IFS therapy.


This is a fascinating conversation, uncovering the real-world challenges faced by those who are disabled in, and by society, and how to support their journeys.


Social Model of Disability, IFS Therapy, Internal Family Systems, Disability, Medical Model, Neurodivergence, Therapy, Accessibility, Client Experiences


00:00 Welcome and Introductions

03:56 Diving into the Social Model of Disability

06:43 Contrasting Models: Social vs. Medical

10:03 Cultural Perspectives on Disability

15:02 The Intersection of Medical and Social Models

23:00 Access Fatigue and Self-Advocacy

30:02 Finding Community Among Neurodivergent Folks

31:03 The Impact of Support on Disability

32:40 Navigating Neurotypical Expectations

36:12 Privilege and Adaptation in Workspaces

39:03 Invisible Burdens of Neurodivergence

42:01 Breaking the Cycle of Internalized Expectations

45:12 Reflections and Future Conversations


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Disclaimer

This podcast is hosted by qualified therapists who share personal reflections and professional insights into therapy and mental health. The views expressed are those of the individual speakers or guests and are personal to them.


While we talk about therapy, this podcast is not therapy. It’s for information, reflection, and conversation only, and should never be considered a substitute for professional mental health support, diagnosis, or treatment. Listening to this podcast does not create a therapist-client relationship.


Some episodes may touch on sensitive topics, so please take care while listening. If you're struggling, we encourage you to reach out to a qualified therapist or mental health professional in your area.


Guest opinions are their own and don’t necessarily reflect those of the hosts.


Contacts

Isabelle Vrod, LMSW (she/her) is the Director of OCD | ​Care Coordinator |​ Therapist

- spectrumservicesnyc.com


Alessio Rizzo (He/They) is a Certified IFS psychotherapist, IFS Trainer with the IFS institute, and Approved Clinical Consultant (ACC) - www.therapywithalessio.com⁠


Jude Carn (She/They) is a Certified IFS psychotherapist and an Approved Clinical Consultant (ACC) with the IFS Institute - www.anchoredinself.co.uk


Sound editing by Forbes Coleman

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