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(00:00):
Welcome to Quiet Mom POTS Talk.
I'm Robyn.
I'm Zoe.
We are here to talk about POTS.
this is our second episode aboutsit breaks, and our first
episode went live, so you canalready catch it and learn more
about who we are and why we'rehere.
So we won't waste your time onthat.
But you can go listen to ourinformation there.

(00:23):
today we are going to talk aboutsit breaks.
So Zoe is, I believe, thecreator of sit breaks.
Yeah.
I am just penning that, thatthis is a Zoe thing.
I'll insert some, but sit breakshas been something that Zoe has
been using to manage her potsfor a while.
what is a sit break, Zoe?

(00:44):
Sit breaks are basically exactlywhat it sounds like.
You sit and you take a break.
And it doesn't matter if it's,It's like a scheduled break or
if it's just because you needtime to rest, calm your heart
rate, your breathing, just calmdown in general.
If you need to balance out yourcirculation, it's a good time to

(01:07):
do it.
Get in the right position,elevate your feet, make sure
your blood isn't poolinganywhere, maybe lay down if you
need to.
Basically, it's just a time foryou to sit and not think about
anything, not do anything, giveyour body and your mind a break.
Sit breaks are good because inPOTS, you can get, your heart

(01:27):
rate will race, your blood willpool, and some people will pass
out, right?
Yeah.
A lot of people with POTS passout.
It's very rare.
A very common misconceptionpeople a lot of the times think
passing out is POTS, or theythink if you have POTS, you have
to pass out.
And that's not the case at all.

(01:48):
A lot of people with POTS don'tever pass out.
I personally have never passedout.
But when I have to pass out.
episodes when I stand up or whenI move around too quickly or I'm
just in a flare, I feel like I'mgoing to pass out.
And that's commonly known aspresyncope.
I don't know if it's actuallyreally common, but that's what

(02:09):
it's called.
Presyncope?
Yeah, syncope is when you dofaint and presyncope is just the
feeling like you're going to.
So I've seen some I don't know,podcasts or Tik Tok or whatever,
where people who have supportanimals, the dog will warn them
and I saw a one recently thatthe girl was like in a grocery

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store and she just sat down andthe dog like got under her legs
and lifted her legs and stuff.
And the grocery store workerswere like, are you okay?
so basically she was doing a sitbreak in the middle of the
grocery store.
Yeah, exactly.
And that can be.
Exactly what it is.
You can sit anywhere that youare.
If you're outside and it's toohot, find somewhere shady, sit

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down, maybe even lay down.
If you're too active or you'vebeen walking for too long, sit
down, give yourself a break.
And there's no time limit.
Like it doesn't have to be fiveminutes long.
It doesn't have to be 30 secondslong.
It can be however long you needit to be.
If you need to sit and take abreak for half an hour, sit and

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take a break for half an hour.
And if you only need 10 seconds,take those 10 extra seconds.
Is there a way that it could bedetrimental or dangerous?
Could you, if you sit down inthe wrong position or for too
long or obviously you don't wantto sit down in the middle of a
street, but I'm not talkingabout like that kind of a
dangerous, but could that belike Stopping too much or

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slowing down too fast.
If you have hypothermia, you cancool somebody down too fast.
Or warm them up too fast orwhatever.
But is there, is that a thing?
I don't really think so.
There is definitely something togradually slowing yourself down.
If you are exercising or if youare doing something active,
probably, not a good idea to gofrom jogging for five minutes to

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sitting directly.
It's a good thing to giveyourself a minute to stand
there.
Obviously, with POTS, thepositional changes, the postural
aspect of it is a big problem.
It's not something that we'regoing to want to do going from
standing to laying downimmediately.
There's those stages in betweenfrom standing, sitting, maybe
even crouching before you sit.

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I don't think that there'sreally a worry for having too
many sit breaks or taking toomany breaks just because if you
need to take a break, you shouldtake a break.
And it's just like the commonsense of if you're hungry, you
should eat.
If you're thirsty, drink water.
If you're tired, go to bed.
This is honoring what your bodyneeds.
Exactly.
And On my Instagram and TikTok,on P.O.T.S.

(04:44):
Talk, I talk a lot about justlistening to your body and
knowing what you need.
And that's something that'sreally hard to get to.
I have always been really bad atthat.
I'll go to the doctor for aninjury or something, they'll be
like, What's your pain on ascale of 1 to 10?
I don't know, I'm stillfunctioning, I'm still moving,
but it hurts really bad,obviously, I'm here.

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It's like, knowing your limitsand finding those limits maybe
doing a sit break too early afew times or too late a few
times might help you find thatmiddle ground and that balance
of when you need it.
Yeah, so if you get a sit breakand you're like, okay, I
probably should have done that.
Yeah.
I think that I like what yousaid about honoring your body.

(05:28):
I used to work with a lot ofchiropractors.
One of my favorite chiropractorsalways used to say pain is a
warning sign of something that'shappening.
So if you have pain, dosomething about it before it
becomes an issue Yeah.
This is like the sit break isthat sort of especially with
somebody who has POTS.
And if you are someone withPOTS, especially if you do
faint, sit breaks would be veryhelpful for that, especially

(05:52):
because I've seen videos ofother POTSies all the time
talking about their episodes andwhat it feels like to be going
into a syncope episode.
And there's always those notnecessarily always, I don't know
from experience, but from what Ihave seen and heard, there's
warning signs to when you'regoing to pass out.

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And I have my own warning signsfor when I'm gonna feel really
bad, or when I'm standing up, orwhen I'm sitting down, or
changing positions, or anythinglike that.
I know when I'm gonna need theextra time and the extra break.
So that kind of covers the POTSpart of it.
And we probably should say adisclaimer, we're not medical
professionals.

(06:34):
Yeah, we're not.
We don't want you to use ouradvice as medical advice.
Talk to your doctor and get yourmedical advice.
We just are giving real lifeexperience, personal experience.
Yeah.
But so we talked about how Thatcovers it for people with POTS.
Yeah.
But a sit break really could behelpful for anybody.
Yeah.

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So especially like on the mentalside of it, a sit break is not
just for your body.
I work As a receptionist, so Ideal with people all day, non
stop, and I'm not, I'm literallywearing a shirt that says do not
disturb right now.
I don't like people.
I don't want to talk to peopleall day, unfortunately.

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That is the position that Ihave.
So I need that mental break andthat social break from people at
the end of the day, or evensometimes throughout the day I
will go into a separate room inthe office where I'm not in the
waiting room and there's notpeople around because I just
need a minute to not deal withthat, and It, literally, it can
be as simple as that, going intoa different room, if you're at

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an event, or if you're in acrowded space, if you just need
some quiet, if you have socialanxiety, I have social anxiety,
that is very beneficial to justgive your brain a break.
I think that's, the interestingthing about that is that I am
such a people person.
I get recharged.
I can sit and do your job.
I, actually, I couldn't do yourjob.

(07:59):
You could not.
You're not organized enough todo your job, but you're peopley
enough to do my job better thanI do in that aspect.
But I would probably end uptalking to them too long.
Yeah.
I would slow down the wholeoffice.
But that's true, but When yousaid I want to correct you for a
second because you said youdon't like people and it's not
that she doesn't like Peopletrue.
She doesn't like people YeahAlthough zoe is very friendly if

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you ever meet her in personShe's nobody ever like when they
see me wearing my shirts.
I call them my monday shirts.
I've got like step back I'mintroverting, this one's do not
disturb, a beautiful day toleave me alone You Those are my
Monday shirts.
And everyone, every time I seethem, is always I would not have
taken you for an introvertedperson.
You're so friendly, you're sonice, you just talk very well

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with people.
Yeah, that's my job.
I've done I learned it inschool.
That's what Growing up and beingraised right does to you.
She had a very people y personto watch.
I did.
Okay.
Let me see my notes so that wecan make sure that we don't get
too off topic.
So we were talking abouteveryone can benefit.

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I am a, I have ADD, ADHD.
I don't know what the officialterm now in the medical world
is, but I call it ADD becausewhen I got diagnosed, it was,
there was a big put anyways, notgoing to go into that, but
People who have ADD or ADHD havea hard time with transitioning
and we struggle to go from onething to the next and even if
it's something that we like ordon't like and we don't want to

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do, it's still hard to getmoving to that next thing.
So a set break sometimes is goodto just reset your mind.
Reset.
Yeah.
So like I would go do a massageand I would just sit there.
Before I change my sheets orwhatever, because I would have
to wait for my client,reschedule them and sit there
and then like I would, when I gofor drive, sometimes I'll pull

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into the driveway and I knowthat everybody does this and
this is not necessarily an ADHDthing, If you have the song on,
it's in the radio and you haveto finish listening to the song,
especially if it's a really goodsong.
even if you just get home andyou're done driving and you're
like, Whoa, you just need thattime.
Especially if it's a, like avery taxing drive or something.
So that's a good time.

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Those are sit breaks.
Those are times that some peoplemight look at this and be like,
Oh my gosh, I don't have time toadd something else in my life.
Cause you have a milliondoctor's appointments.
You have all the other thingsthat you have to do to manage
your, Pots or whatever chronicillness you have, but if you
don't make the time your bodywill make the time And that
might not be for that.
Yeah, that might not be that 10minute sit break that you needed

(10:30):
yesterday That might be two daysof feeling like absolute Feeling
like your worst self or havingthe worst symptoms because you
pushed yourself too hard and youdidn't take the time to relax.
You don't want to end up in theemergency room.
Yeah, you don't want to have aflare that's going to send you
out of work for a few days orunable to do something you were

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looking forward to.
Okay.
So we.
So yeah, I think that sit breaksare a, I guess we could also
correlate sit breaks to likemeditation practices or stuff
like that.
And I think when we were talkingabout this last week, The other
day we were talking aboutmeditation and not everybody
thinks that they can meditate.

(11:12):
Yeah, I teach in one of myclasses that I teach a
meditation lesson I get.
mind you, it's high schoolers,but I get this from adults.
Whenever I talk to them aboutmeditation too, is I don't
meditate.
This doesn't work.
This doesn't do it for me.
It doesn't work.
When it comes to meditation,when we're talking about the
practice of meditation, it doestake practice and you have to

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learn how to do it and you haveto be.
Open for whatever it is thatyou're going to get out of it.
Yeah.
So if you don't want to ifyou're a high school student and
your teacher says we're going tomeditate and has you sit still
in a room for 10 minutes.
You're not passionate about it.
and I tell all of them if thisdidn't work for you, try this
again when you're like fiveyears older than now.
Yes.
But in meditation teachers willtell you that it's a practice.

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Yeah.
So could like your sit breaks,sometimes you have to do your
sit breaks at times that arenot, just when your body needs
it.
Yeah, could you do meditation asa practice for learning how to
sit break?
Personally, I'm gonna sound likeone of those cliches Meditation
does not really work for me.

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I'm not a meditator.
I have never been good atcleaning Clearing my mind.
But, when I do a sit break, whenI really need it, and I need to
think about nothing, doabsolutely nothing, what I
revert to is I either thinkabout my breathing, and I'll
count my breathing like I'llbreathe in, and count as I
breathe in, Hold it for howeverlong is comfortable and then

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breathe out and count as Ibreathe out.
That kind of relates to boxbreathing.
Box breathing also does not workfor me because there's too many
restrictions.
The counting, the numbers, thetimelines, everything like that
just stresses me out and makesthings worse more than it does
help.
Yeah.
I've heard that a lot toobecause people are like, I can't
not think.
Can I think about not thinking?

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How do you not think?
I'm thinking about not thinking.
And then all of a sudden you'reBeating yourself up because you
can't think and you're not doingit right, especially if you're a
perfectionist.
I tend to be a perfectionist andyou tend to overthink that.
Yeah.
So the purpose of a sit break isto not over think that.
And I feel like that maybethat's why, and maybe it wasn't
a conscious thing that you did.

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maybe it wasn't a consciousthing that you did, but maybe it
was that's why you name it a sitbreak rather than something else
because it could be like, thereason I name it a sit break is
because that's literally what itis.
I would sit and I would take abreak, but I just could never
clear my mind when I wasmeditating.
And the only thing I was able todo was like, I would think about

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the ocean.
Cause whenever we would go tothe ocean, the only thing that I
could hear constantly while wewas there was the waves and that
I could sit there and listen tothe waves and not think about
anything else for a whole day.
And I'm sure you could relate tothat because we both like going
to the ocean.
I love the ocean.
It's my favorite place to go.
And there's one.
Technique that they teach inmeditation.

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And as a massage therapist, as aformer massage therapist, I
dabbled a little bit inmeditation, but also had to work
with my clients to be able tojust relax.
And sometimes they neededcommunication or something to
guide them.
And I've done a little bit of myown meditation practice and have
learned about meditation.
And obviously I teach about itin one of my classes.

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So I talk about.
Different things like learninghow to get yourself to not
think, because really you wantto be in a spot where you are
you are just there, like youjust be, and they talk about Oh,
pretend that your thoughts arelike clouds that pass you by.
Cause you really can't controlyour thoughts.
Your thoughts are not somethingthat in your own world, it's

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not, you can stop them.
Sometimes.
Sometimes, but it's almost likeyou can choose to put energy
into them.
So yeah, it's like in thatmovie, you can put a pin in it,
but it's gonna come back.
It doesn't go away.
It just stays in that pin.
Exactly.
One of the, one one of thethings that I liked, I think it
was on a meditation that Ilistened to and it was like,

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imagine your thoughts are likecars drive, like you're watching
a road and it's like carsdriving by and you can't control
the cars driving by.
But you can watch the car driveby and then it's gone.
You could obsess about that carand watch the car drive by and
what kind of car is it and howfast are they going and what are
they the cars?
It's dirty.
It's clean.
It's like you can think of allthose things, but you don't have

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to.
You can just sit.
That's a car.
It's going by and then you getback to whatever it is.
But I feel like that it's noteffective for me to meditate
without giving myself.
something to focus on.
So I usually focus on mybreathing.
I'll count or I do this with mylike sometimes I have, I used to
work with special needs kidsthat sometimes would have

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outbursts.
And I would say things like, Ithink I've done this with you
probably when you were growingup.
I would say things like namefive things that you can see.
And so then they're like apicture, a shoe, a tree, a this,
and then four things that youcan.
It's it's just the five sensescounting down from five, right?

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There's all these differentthings.
So it brings your awareness tosomething out there.
And what that does is instead ofyou telling your brain to turn
off and stop thinking, itdistracts your brain.
So it gives that moment ofwhatever was causing that flare
up, that flooding, it takes thatenergy away from there and it
gets you thinking of somethingelse.
Yeah.

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In your brain.
That works because of that,because it stops that
overthinking, that judgmentalthinking, the whatever, like
five things that you can see.
I didn't ask you to tell me whatthe dog's doing.
You see the dog.
And so I think the sit break.
So if you struggle with sitbreaks and you know you're
stressing out, and that's theother thing that if you do have

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a dog that's telling you to calmdown or your watch that's
yelling at you that you're goingtoo fast and you're like, Oh my
God, my heart rates too fast.
What do I do?
That's when you sit.
And if your brain is going, Ohmy God, am I okay?
Am I having a heart attack?
It's going too fast.
It's not coming down.
It's not coming down fastenough.
That's when you just startbreathing and you count your
breaths.
And that's what you don't wantto do.

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You don't want to get caught upin your head.
So those are a couple ofstrategies that you can do that.
Sometimes you could anotherthing is you could tactile
things help.
So you can touch something.
And this is more for the mentalside of a sit break.
Yeah.
So that you can you could touchsomething or you could pet your
dog or you could Tapping.

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Tapping.
Tapping is a really good thing.
That's another I hate it, butit's really good for some
people.
It's another technique forpeople who are, like,
kinesthetic or tactile typepeople.
people.
But it's also something thatwhatever it is, you can do
anywhere.
Your goal in a sit break is togive your body a break, give
your body a break, give yourmind to break down.

(17:56):
My goal personally for a sitbreak is to give my body time to
reset and recharge to then getthrough whatever it is that I'm
doing next.
And that's coming from the POTSy side of it.
For other people, it might bethat they are trying to calm
down from an overwhelmingsituation, and sometimes that's
the case for me, too.

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Sometimes it's overexertingyourself and needing to
literally just give yourselftime to breathe and catch up.
The need and the reasoning for asit break is different for
everyone and it's not gonna bethe same type of sit break for
everyone.
Each sit break you take is notgonna be the same.

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Sometimes, on the physicalaspect of a sit break, You don't
necessarily have to turn offyour brain.
Yes, sometimes that does help,but it's not necessary.
Sometimes if I just need a sitbreak for my body, if I'm just
really overexerted and tired andfeeling weak, I will sit there
and I'll just scroll on myphone.
And that's a sit break.

(19:00):
We unintentionally, as humans,take sit breaks all the time.
We take brain breaks.
That might have been somethingpeople learned in school.
You take a brain break fromdoing your math or your reading
or whatever and you go draw apicture or something.
But.
It's different when you need itfor your brain and your body,
and especially for POTS.
And I think that for you, youdo, a lot of times you do your

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Instagramming.
Yeah.
From your sit break.
Yeah.
I remember watching you one timeand I was like I wonder why
she's talking.
I wonder if she's getting whatshe needs out of it.
Yeah.
A lot of people probably thinkthat about my sit breaks.
I do my sit breaks.
I sit there.
I put my phone up.
I record it.
I record it.
And then I sit and I edit thevideo.
So that really is my sit break.
After I do my sit break video,after I talk about what my day

(19:48):
was, or whatever it is I decideto talk about in the sit break,
I will edit the video.
Put on the captions, cut thevideos, everything else, and
post it.
And that editing time, thatposting time, is my actual sit
break.
Because that's when my body issitting there, not doing
anything.
Yes, my mind is still working,because I'm listening to it, and

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I'm Changing things.
Sometimes I don't edit it whenI'm there.
If I need the mental sit break,I will sit there, I'll turn on
my music, or sometimes I don'teven turn on my music, and I
just sit there.
I wanna just give a plug foryour sit break because there
it's called Sit break account.
It's called P.O.T.S.
Talk, which it's P period Operiod The name on my account is

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Zoe's Pots.
Okay.
Z O E S.
POTS.
So we'll link it, we linked itin our first website in the show
notes, I forgot to check theshow notes to see how they
turned out, but whatever, butwe'll link it in our show notes
and you'll also be able to go toour Instagram and then find
P.O.T.S.
Talk from there too.
But If you are a person who hasPOTS, especially, Zoe has tips

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that she gives.
She talks about her set breakand her experience and where
she's at.
And it's not always about POTS,but what I really like about it
is just that there's always.
A little snippet.
It's just a short time thatyou're talking like 10 or 20
seconds, but even people whodon't go onto Instagram to watch
reels, which this is the funnything is that every and I'm

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going to call him out, he'sprobably going to be mad, but
every day dad watches your sitbreaks.
Yes, he does.
And that makes me so happy.
Like one time I saw we were atthe farmer's market, I think.
And he was like, I was talkingabout something and he was like,
yeah, I saw your video.
And then.
Couple times later I saw him, hewas like, I was seeing your
videos and he always will askme, How are you doing?

(21:41):
I've been watching your videos.
And it's so cool because it's Idon't talk to my dad every day,
but he hears from me every day.
And it's funny because he's notone.
He doesn't really listen toReels or whatever.
And if he does, they're like, F1or yeah, that golf that him and
his buddy men stuff and boystuff, but so it's funny.

(22:01):
It's really cute to see that.
Okay.
Benefits of pop talks.
We we talked about we talkedabout how it's a little bit of,
about meditation.
We talked about how you can doit anywhere.
We talked about how that it's areset for your body and your
mind.
It can benefit anyone.
Is there anything that we aremissing?
We did the who, what, when,where, why?

(22:22):
I think just one thingspecifically is making sure
you're comfortable.
And, my car is comfortable.
I know some people don'tnecessarily feel too comfortable
sitting in a car's seat.
If that was the case for me,then I would probably sit inside
at work still and do it.
But, making sure that you're ina comfortable position.
If it is a situation where yourblood is pooling, maybe

(22:45):
elevating your feet or your armsor laying down, If you're having
a really hard time breathing,maybe if you have an inhaler,
take the inhaler, making sureyou're getting somewhere that
has good, fresh air.
Just being in a comfortableposition mentally.
Not necessarily mentally,because obviously you might
start off in a bad placementally if you're needing a sit

(23:06):
break.
But making sure that you'recomfortable physically and in a
comfortable environment isreally important.
And obviously in a safeenvironment.
Yes.
Yeah.
My sit breaks will probably bemuch more intimidating once it
starts getting dark at nightbecause I don't work in the
safest environment.
I might wait and do them when Iget home.
But we'll see what happensbecause obviously I'm not gonna

(23:28):
know until I get there, right?
Just knowing your surroundingsAnd if you aren't have you ever
fallen asleep during it's abreak.
No, I haven't probably Okay, ifyou did, yeah, my sit breaks
don't last very long most of thetime And if they do it's when
I'm at home and I'm not doinganything else or I have the time

(23:48):
to Lay there and do nothing forawhile, which I think everybody
who's done meditation has fallenasleep during a meditation
before I think the thing that Ilike the most about what you
said about sit breaks and what Ithink is a good lesson for
people to learn is to honor whatyour body needs and giving
yourself a sit break is a timefor you to stop and Do what your

(24:12):
body needs.
And that's just to calm down.
yesterday I had a really, thisis a me story and this has
nothing to do with a sit break,but it has to do with honoring
your body.
I have been on the go, likereally hardcore for a week and a
half getting ready for schoolbecause it's those of you who
don't know, I am a schoolteacher, I teach high school.
We start our first day of schoolin the district is tomorrow.

(24:36):
My official, my first day ofschool is actually Wednesday, my
students come back, but Istarted back last week.
So Monday through Friday, I wasin meetings and such.
And Saturday we had a busy dayand we went to the Seahawks game
and then Sunday I could not getmyself up out of bed.
I was so exhausted.

(24:57):
Yeah.
I just was like, I don't knowwhy I didn't, we didn't like, we
went to the Seahawks game, butwe didn't stay like I was in bed
by midnight.
And there are many days that Iget to bed after midnight.
When I'm not at a Seahawks gameand I'm not doing things, but it
just was a long day.
I had so much that I wanted toget done yesterday and I wanted
to get up and get moving and dothese things.

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And I just could not drag myselfout of bed.
But then my husband, I wastexting him.
I'm like, I don't know why Ican't get out of bed.
I'm so tired.
I'm so mad at myself.
And he was like, dude, you'vebeen going hardcore for a while
and maybe your body's tellingyou, you need to rest and you
need to give yourself a littlebit of grace.
So that was definitely somethingthat I probably needed to hear,

(25:38):
especially from him because Ifelt like I needed to do his
laundry and I needed to do cleanthe house and go grocery
shopping.
Still haven't gone groceryshopping, but all of the things,
but I think sometimes you justneed to learn how to listen to
your body.
And especially if you're aperson who has a chronic illness
and pots, you just have tolisten to your body.
And sometimes It just takes itdoesn't take that long to do a

(26:01):
sit break.
Sometimes if you catch it earlyenough, you only need five or 10
minutes.
You won't need, it doesn't needto be a long time.
And if you think about it, youprobably already are doing a sit
break, but if you're a littlebit more intentional with that
time and it can give your bodythat time to recover, and then
you can, instead of getting madat yourself for sitting on your
phone and scrolling for 15minutes, you can go, I just gave

(26:24):
myself a sit break and my bodyneeded that.
Yeah.
If scrolling on your phone isyour sit break, that's okay.
But as long as, I don't evenwant to say as long as you're
being intentional, but sometimesthat's whatever it is that works
for you.
I think is what we want to getout there, but everybody could
really use a sit break at leastonce a day, but we probably do
take more than just one.

(26:45):
For sure.
But giving yourself that.
And I don't have just my one sitbreak at the end of the day.
I take sit, whoo, I take sitbreaks throughout the day, too.
And I'm fortunate to have a jobwhere that's an option.
Some people, they just get theirsit break.
10 minute breaks or half hourlunch or whatever.
But I have a flexible positionwhere if there's no one that's

(27:08):
checking in and there's nobodythat I have to schedule, the
phone's not ringing, I can sitthere for a minute and give
myself a second to just breatheand to just take a break.
And really, honestly, even ifyou work and let me.
Maybe if you're a factoryworker, you can't do that, but
cause you don't want things topile up on you, but yeah, but
there are, most of us havemoments, we get, we all get that

(27:31):
time.
And if you don't, you need totalk to your boss and advocate
for yourself so that you cantake time to just be able to
breathe.
You can take 30 seconds and do abox breathing, like one of 30
seconds is not going to Itshould not cost you your job.
And especially if you do have anillness.
That you need to manage in youror give yourself time in the day

(27:52):
when your body needs it.
It's not, there's noprescription, this many hours,
this long of a break.
It's listen to your body and dowhat works for you.
I think that's it for sitbreaks.
What do you have going on nextweek?
This coming week, I havechiropractor, physical therapy,
then we're going to the concert.

(28:13):
Huh.
Which.
Managing events with POTS, whichthis can be like a whole nother
episode, but managing events andactivities with POTS is really
difficult.
We were planning to go to theBite of Seattle this year, and I
was really looking forward tothat, but I just was not up for
it that day.
My body was not up for it.
for it.
I wasn't feeling good.
And that's something that'sreally hard to come to terms
with when you're not feelinggood but you want to do

(28:36):
something.
I'm a FOMO person.
Yeah.
So it's hard for me.
And I don't listen to my body.
And I'm not even, I'm not even aFOMO person.
I don't care if I miss stuff.
Like I really don't.
But I was looking forward tothat.
long time before it happened,and I just couldn't get myself
to do it the day of because itwas an hour away, and it would

(28:58):
have been a lot of walking, alot of Event, eventful stuff and
Peopling and it was hot out andjust all kinds of different
things that would have madeeverything Probably a hundred
times worse for me if I wouldhave ended up doing it, right?
So So, you've got that going onand then I have, it's my

(29:18):
acupuncture week, too.
Nice! I'm trying, I'm gonna tryand get acupuncture this week,
too, because I feel like Ireally need it.
My anxiety has been really highlately and I think that has to
do with, a lot of the stuff thatI have coming up doctors wise
like in the beginning of themonth next month And I guess
that is literally next week.
That's terrifying.
I have an electrophysiologyappointment and That is

(29:43):
basically to see if I need heartsurgery of some sort what would
that do would that shock yourheart?
So that is actually not forPOTS.
That's for super ventriculartachycardia or svt which is
actually This appointment thatyou're talking about next week.
So it's a different thing.
It's a different thing entirely,but funnily enough, I was

(30:04):
diagnosed with it last year inlike October.
So before I was even diagnosedwith POTS.
And then because of my POTSdiagnosis, just completely
forgot it existed until the lasttime I just saw the cardiologist
in like June or July.
So yeah, that was a fun thing.
So are those two things that arerelated?
They're related.

(30:24):
They're not necessarily related.
They don't.
come along together or anythinglike that, but they are similar.
Superventricular tachycardia isjust an abnormally or randomly
high heart rate.
Randomly, my heart will justspike up and with POTS, it's
posturally related.

(30:45):
Our next episode we havescheduled to be titled Life with
Pots, so you're giving a littlepreview about doctor's
appointments and things likethat, so next week we'll get
into a little bit of dealingwith that because it's because
Obviously, we have the sit breakthing and the physical aspect of
POTS on your health and how itaffects you and your body and

(31:06):
your movement every day.
But there's also just managingPOTS.
And I think this probably canreally relate to a lot of people
who have chronic illness orgetting to the diagnosis because
sometimes it's not somethingthat's diagnosed right away.
Yeah.
So next week will probably bemore just like talking about my
symptoms and what I go throughand different things that I have

(31:28):
to do to keep up with it.
Not necessarily managementbecause management, that's a
whole nother topic.
There's so much.
We're talking about life withPOTS.
Yeah.
So just about like just what,like maybe a day in the life of
a person with POTS.
Yeah.
Like the different symptoms thatcan come up, the different
experiences that you mayencounter different.

(31:50):
Reactions, different things thatjust affect your life.
Yeah, different things thataffect your life and how you
have to live differently becauseof it.
Okay.
So we will touch on some stuffthat like, I feel like every
episode we Ooh, this could be awhole nother episode.
Yeah.
So today's lesson was events.
So we'll circle back with eventsin a while.

(32:12):
But then next week we will talkabout just dealing with life
with pots.
I'm excited for our concert.
Yes.
This this is two years in themaking.
We've had these tickets foryears.
we're going to the Metallicaconcert.
I'm gonna say it.
Hopefully they don't kick us offor take us out of the thing.
We won't play their music on thebroadcast.
That's definitely would get usshut down.

(32:33):
Yeah.
But I don't feel like saying aname of somebody would get you
taken off.
I don't think it's, I do believethere's still tickets to So
we'll put that in there This isthe last like family event that
we purchased.
Yeah, we, I think we boughtthese tickets before you guys,
before I moved out.
I think it was before you movedout.

(32:54):
It was before I got my lastconcussion.
So it was at least while Ieither while I was in Bellingham
for college or before I left forBellingham Oh my gosh, that was
so long two years ago.
It's crazy.
So anyway, so I'm excited forThat's I'm looking forward to
it.
I'm looking I'm really having alot of emptiness syndrome with
this The empty nest syndrome.

(33:16):
Yes.
Cause I'm just really sad that Ican't like just walk over and
give him a hug and tell him Ilove him and touch his face and
it sounds weird, but all of themoms listening right now will
totally understand.
Oh my gosh.
The moms who have kids have leftthe house, which right now
that's going around.
teenagers.
are leaving to go to collegeright now.
And a lot of us are goingthrough the dropping the kid

(33:38):
off, and one of my friendsposted today that she left her,
part of her heart in Kansas.
my god, that's so far away! Iknow.
So anyways, but we shouldprobably We'll wrap it up now.
Wrap it up.
We could sit here and talk allnight.
Before we get too mushy gushy.
I know.
I'm gonna start crying if youdon't stop.
We're good.
But thank you, everyone, forlistening.

(33:58):
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So anyways, thank you guys forcoming in today and it was great
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(34:20):
We'll be back next week withLife with Pots.
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