08 - Rise of the New Pop Girlies

Rolling Stone staff writer Brittany Spanos joins us in the warren this week to walk us through one of our weirder rabbit holes: pop music.

• Matthew’s Katy Perry gaffe
• Taylor is not done, Taylor is never done
• The rise of the new pop girlies
• Katy Perry was bad long before this
• False nostalgia for the Obama era
• We’re all trapped in 2016
• Katy Perry CAN’T fix this
• The Hannah Montana Generation
• You can’t have a nice time anymore.

AI Music fraud story

Chappell Roan VMA performance

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Lover of Men trailer

James Buchanan, gay?

Chappell Roan Is a Pop Supernova. Nothing About It Has Been Easy

The David Bowie/ Lincoln poster

A Chapell Roan pet themed cat commercial

Katy Perry can fix this

Welcome to the Hannah Montana Generation of Pop Music

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