April 23, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode, we dive deep into the current astrological energies with a focus on Venus and its connection to self-worth, love, and values. We explore how Venus's influence aligns perfectly with Reiki practices, emphasizing the importance of self-care and internal work during Venus retrograde. We also discuss the upcoming astrological events, including the Libra Full Moon and Taurus New Moon, and their impact on our spiritual journeys. Join us as we unpack the influence of how these planetary movements relate to our personal growth and spiritual healing through Reiki.
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Elaine (00:00):
Hey,
Beth (00:00):
Lane.
Elaine (00:01):
what are we talking about today?
Beth (00:03):
Oh, well, I think there's a lot going on, in the energy
world of astrology and our girlVenus, is showing up pretty
strong.
you shared something with me.
About the astrology, and itpairs really well with what we
talked about in the last podcastabout astrology and reiki and
(00:25):
how you use it.
So why don't you give us theenergy update first, and let's
see where we go with this.
About Venus?
Elaine (00:33):
Yes.
Okay.
So last episode, we were talkinga lot about Saturn and Neptune
at the end,
Beth (00:39):
Mm-hmm.
Elaine (00:39):
but we do need to process that a little bit more
'cause there's so much to wrapour heads around that and we
have had conversations aboutthat.
So we're gonna pause that partof the conversation and jump
into another thing that'shappening right now, which is
Venus.
Venus is the star of the show,this month in April.
And I think it pairs perfectlywith what we were talking about,
Reiki and self-care andconnecting to yourself and your
(01:02):
authentic self because Venus isabout self-worth.
It's about our values, how wevalue ourselves.
It's about love, and it is aboutconnecting with others, but it's
about connecting with yourselftoo.
So.
In the astrology right now weare at the last deck in, is what
they call like the last third ofAries, and it's actually rolled
by Venus, which I think is cool.
(01:23):
So it's got that fiery Ariesenergy to it, but with a Venus,
undercurrent, which I think is areally cool combination.
And we realized you have yourmoon in that deck and two, which
is a whole other.
Thing that we need to tap into,one-on-one.
But, I just think that's a coolfeeling of energy right now.
And then we have, Venus is stillin retrograde, but it's going
(01:46):
direct Saturday.
And on Saturday we have a LibraFull Moon.
Libra is ruled by Venus.
And then two weeks later we havea Taurus New Moon.
Taurus is also ruled by Venus.
So we have all of this Venusenergy happening this month.
But there's gonna be hard stufftoo.
There's going to be some Marsand some Pluto coming in there,
(02:06):
some fiery stuff, just like theAries energy.
But it's like Venus wants toshine.
Venus wants to be the star ofthe show, but it's kind of
getting taken over by this otherenergy.
So I really wanna bring Venus tothe forefront, especially with
our Reiki practices.
Like, you know, we talked aboutlast episode, bringing the
astrology into the reiki, andthis is a perfect example of.
(02:27):
A perfect time to do that.
cause we have all this fieryenergy going on.
We need to pull more of that.
Venus.
We need to rely on a little bitmore of that venous energy this
month to get us through some ofthat tougher stuff.
Beth (02:40):
So.
The Venus Energy.
Some people think of it as justthe love planet,
Elaine (02:47):
Right.
Beth (02:48):
And it's not, she's not gushy necessarily, you know, and
with it being retrograde, itspeaks to the idea of the love
for yourself.
So if you can work through theending, like here, hurry up and
catch up.
Like, this is gonna probablyshow up after Venus goes direct
(03:09):
right in our release.
So, this little.
helpful tip that I'm giving themnow, they'll have to use for the
next time Venus retrograde, butit's about the looking inward
because with the retro grades,it's always about that internal
work, not the working withothers, so to speak.
Right.
Elaine (03:28):
And a lot of people have probably had recurring themes
come up during this venousretrograde for the past month or
so, around themselves, aroundtheir relationships, around how
they act in relationships.
And like I said, that self-worthis a huge part of it.
And if you're not working onvaluing yourself and honoring
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that self-worth, then youprobably had some stuff come up
in your relationships thatwasn't pretty.
Beth (03:55):
Yeah.
Or your finances, because youtalk about self value, Venus
also rules the money, so tospeak.
Elaine (04:03):
Yeah.
Beth (04:03):
you know, people forget that, and it's not the love of
money, but it is that aspect ofvaluing yourself.
Elaine (04:12):
Yes, exactly.
Beth (04:13):
that in internal work, you know, the, what I, what I see in
my head, kind of, I'm takingyour language.
is the, Venus literally sittingat the heart center right?
Elaine (04:27):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (04:28):
resting on top of the solar plexus because solar
plexus is about self-worth.
And you know, the heart centeris about that love aspect, but
it's compassion and that kind ofthing.
So if you can care deeply froman objective place of that solar
plexus supporting you, not in acodependent way, not in I need
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love, but I am love.
What Reiki brings into things,you know, because reiki is that
divine essence of love.
It heals with love, and it isfrom a very deep place within
that the healing happens.
Elaine (05:10):
that really is a key point to the Reiki energy G.
I love.
The Venus sitting on top of thesolar plexus, it brought to mind
like, we always talk aboutshining your light and I feel
like the light comes from thesolar plexus.
So what a better way to chargeit than with that Venus heart
centered energy, which a lot oftimes we give to other people.
(05:31):
You know, we shine it outbecause that's what we're,
taught to do.
So we shine it this way when weneed to shine it.
All through, you know, ourchakras first, so then that
charges us, which charges otherpeople.
Beth (05:46):
Yeah,
Elaine (05:46):
You don't lose the light.
When you light another candle,you just spread it.
Beth (05:51):
I like that visual a lot.
And I'm racking my brain on,Instagram, rabbi Guy, I can't
think of his name right now.
Elaine (05:59):
Oh yeah.
Beth (06:00):
but he had a clip that I watched this week that talked
about, you know, self-care and.
your living your soul's purpose.
this was the message that I gotfrom him it's not selfish when
you are giving yourself selflove and thinking of yourself
(06:22):
and the work that you'resupposed to do, as long as
you're doing it from your soul'splace, your soul's purpose.
Elaine (06:30):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (06:30):
where this me generation is, is that it's from a
material.
I wanna be first kind to play,which is not the, the Venus,
retrograde feeling of love.
It's the sole purpose.
Let me connect to what you'resupposed to be doing.
Let me.
(06:50):
Help you along the path thereand keep you and connect to that
divine energy that's inside ofyou.
And then your purpose becomesstronger.
Your relationships becomedeeper.
Your profitability, or money orvalue, becomes richer because
the rich aspect of Venus is notjust dollars and cents, it's
(07:12):
value,
Elaine (07:13):
Mm-hmm.
It's the what you project youget back.
So the more you can project thatauthentic love for yourself and
everybody else, and respectingeverybody else's purpose, you
get that back too.
So people start to see yourvalue because you're connecting
in an honest and true way.
And us connecting to reiki helpsus to kind of find.
(07:37):
That path or connect us moredeeply into our authentic selves
and our authentic path.
it gently guides you and kind ofwhen you go off the path, it's
not like it slaps your hand andputs you back on.
It shows you these instanceswhere you know your self-worth
is put under a microscope orsomebody isn't respecting your
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energy the way you want them to.
You know, and one thing that wasjust coming to my mind when you
were talking about that, shiningthe light on this.
Full Moon in Libra that's comingup this weekend is going to be
the sun, you know, shines on themoon, lights it up.
Illumination is kind of like thetheme of full moons.
The sun is going to be directlywith Chiron, the wounded healer.
Beth (08:24):
Oh.
Elaine (08:25):
So it's shining a light on all those wounds, especially
in this self-worth.
And relationship area.
So I really feel like it's goingto be a big one about release,
which is something that wetalked about with the, you know,
the Holy Fire reiki and how thathelps you to release a lot of
these wounds.
And so if you are Reiki trainedgoing forward, like this is
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going to be released after thisfull moon, but it's going to be
prominent, you know, for thenext six months.
Really look at what's coming uparound those wounds.
The Chiron is going to be anAries too.
So Aries is that authentic self.
We talk about that a lot.
So I mean, there are reasonsthat we're talking about what
we're talking about now becausethe astrology lines up to that
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and the healing and the reikienergy.
It just, it truly is likeshining the light on the path.
Like, here you go.
Here's the next step.
Here's the next thing to heal.
Beth (09:19):
The planets cycle around, and this is how healing happens
too.
So this is the beauty ofastrology and reiki, or
self-care work, that kind ofthing, is that it circles
around.
So as the planet's orbit, thesun, they're circling around.
They're not necessarily hittingexactly the same point.
(09:39):
I mean, they kind of track, youknow.
Elaine (09:41):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (09:42):
And it gives you opportunity to come back to
these lessons over and overagain, and in self-development
work, in spiritualself-development work and
healing the ego based things,you circle back around to the
same lesson, but you're comingat it from a different place
because you have.
Hopefully evolved.
(10:02):
Learned a lesson, moved along,and you're presented again with
an opportunity to level up againwhen you circle back around to
these common themes and I.
One thing that we have foundthrough our personal work
together is that we've used thedistance symbol a lot to help us
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in these places of self-healing,around our self-worth, around
the lessons of Venus and Libra,like that balance thing.
I know like you love the Libraenergy because it's prominent in
your chart.
Elaine (10:41):
Yes.
Beth (10:41):
So, and that's the beauty of working with somebody and
understanding their placementsbecause it does help us learn
lessons that maybe wouldn't beas easy if we weren't working
separately together.
Right.
Elaine (10:58):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Beth (10:59):
Yeah.
Elaine (11:00):
Yeah.
No, I like that.
cause it really does help.
I haven't taken my own adviceand done my own self work
because I'm like, I am a Librarising.
I should be very in tune withthis moon.
So there's a lesson there aboutself-care because that is part
of my self-care ritual, and I'vebeen so busy that I have not
(11:20):
done that for myself.
And that's, thank you forpointing that out.
It was like I needed that kindawake up call.
Beth (11:28):
As in the last episode or the episode before, it's in the
Vel Love baby,
Elaine (11:32):
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
Beth (11:34):
Yeah.
Elaine (11:34):
yeah, if you look at our energies, we share the Capricorn
sun.
That's kind of like our sharedthing.
But then the rest is soopposite.
you have Aries energy and I haveLibra Energy, which are opposite
energies, Me honoring your Ariesand you honoring my Libra helps
us.
And even in times, I have to belike, I should call on more of
(11:56):
that Aries energy, like Beth,because I need action on
something, or I need to stand upfor myself.
It's calling in those energiestoo.
'cause everybody has all 12signs in their chart.
we are capable of all of thesethings.
It's just.
How they show up for us or howwe use them.
Beth (12:13):
well, and I think the power of what you said in the
last episode, talking aboutcalling in.
Reiki, like sending reiki tothat astrological aspect and
then inviting that aspect in issuch a, a powerful tool because
(12:35):
now you know, yes, reiki isdivine energy, but like the
structure of the archetypes.
The planets planet and of thehouse placements and that kind
of thing gives you a language todo the healing.
Elaine (12:53):
Yeah, no, that's right on point.
I have so much stuff droppinginto my head right now.
I don't even know to go with it,but.
Beth (13:01):
Okay, well, okay.
Let's, let me see if this willhelp you ferret it out there.
Like piece it out is, there's abig component in the Venus
aspect of self-care andself-love, and that would be,
the forgiveness factor, Terry.
Elaine (13:20):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I feel like that's hugeWith all of our classes and our
groups and our shares, I feellike that's a big topic that
comes up.
Forgiving ourselves.
Forgiving ourselves for wantingto have self-care moments and
have time to ourselves a lot ofthe ladies that come to the
group say, I just had to getoutta the house.
I had to tell everybody, this ismy time.
(13:42):
I'm going, this is part of myself care and I love that, I
know.
That they feel guilty about itsometimes, just like I do,
Beth (13:50):
Yeah.
Elaine (13:51):
But we have to forgive ourselves for being in that
place because it's not selfish.
It's not something that we needto forgive or make up for.
You know, a lot of times I feellike if I take this hour for me,
then I need to make up for it insome way and.
Mm-hmm.
Beth (14:28):
am a person who internally hold a lot of guilt, but people
don't see it on the outside.
Right?
Because, you know, I have the, Ihave the Capricorn stoic face
with some of my other dark andtwisty placements that keep me
looking like, you know, I can doit all myself and on the inside.
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There is a lot of that guilt andworry and even fear that that's
where I shine my light on forself-healing and spiritual
attachment and you know, all thedifferent ways the wounded
healer, like, you know, I shouldjust have a T-shirt that says,
Hey, that's me because, youknow, I'm just, just call me
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Chiron because here I am.
For the aspects of never feelingunderstood growing up, you know,
because I was born with Chironin a prominent place in my
chart.
So it says, your work is gonnabe tough and you're gonna have
to deal with these wounds.
And so buckle up buttercup.
'cause the lessons are comingfast and furious, right?
(15:34):
So the exterior shows.
Together and all that kind ofstuff.
The interior is where the fullmoon in Libra.
And you know, Venus in herbeauty and wisdom can really
support me through connectingwith that reiki energy and brain
(15:55):
and inviting it in.
Elaine (15:57):
Yeah.
Beth (15:57):
gotta let that one sit for a minute
Elaine (15:59):
Yeah, it, it's a lot.
But could you imagine all ofthat stuff that you went through
without reiki, especially now,you've healed so much since I've
known you through Reiki andthrough working with these
placements and through workingwith this, you know, the guilt
and the shame and owning it,facing it, and processing it.
Beth (16:22):
Right.
Elaine (16:22):
Those are parts of the pieces, you know, those are the
pieces to the puzzle that needto be done, and I couldn't
imagine doing it without Reiki.
Beth (16:31):
Yeah, I gotta be honest with you, the number of years
that I've been working withReiki, it continues to support,
heal in a.
Supportive and gentle way.
sometimes the lessons aredifficult, but it's nurturing me
back to my divine purpose andbeing able to stand confidently
(16:58):
in what that purpose is becausesometimes it takes us a long
time to figure out what thebleep is that purpose.
Elaine (17:06):
Right.
Beth (17:06):
mean, one of my favorite expressions, I won't use it
here, but you know, it's blankforsake, you know,
Elaine (17:14):
Right.
Beth (17:15):
because it just, spiritual work isn't soft and fluffy,
Elaine (17:22):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (17:22):
it's not heavenly angels sitting on puffy clouds.
Elaine (17:27):
No.
Beth (17:28):
it's not, you know, sunshine and rainbows all the
time.
Sometimes it's standing withsomebody in suffering or growth
or struggle or,
Elaine (17:38):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (17:38):
know, despair.
You know, there are so manypeople who are living in despair
and fear right now that it is sopalpable Having the trust in the
energy that you do your ownwork, that you can then stand
with somebody else when they'relearning how to do their work.
(17:59):
it just, that just like reallyhit my heart
Elaine (18:02):
Yeah.
No.
Mm-hmm.
Beth (18:03):
that because people don't know.
What they don't know is.
A hard thing.
Elaine (18:09):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (18:10):
sometimes they don't wanna see where the work is.
Elaine (18:13):
Yeah.
Because it is hard.
It's not fun to look at yourshadows and look at the parts of
you that maybe aren't that greatbecause that's part of the
spiritual work is facing thatand you know, facing it in
others too, and being okay withthem and yourself and respecting
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that energy.
Everybody has their own path andeverybody has their own energy
and nobody's perfect andeverybody has flaws.
And being okay with the flawswith yourself and with others,
like that's a hard thing to beaware of and accept and
sometimes look past.
Beth (18:54):
Yeah.
Sometimes I feel like I'mmeeting myself for the first
time, I've done this work, Ialmost don't recognize who I've
become, because I have changedso much that then when I go to
do the work, it's like I'veheard something for the first
time.
I'm back to that beginner's mindplace where.
(19:17):
I might read the manual, youknow, we've talked about our
teaching manuals.
I might read it and it's almostlike I'm reading it for the
first time, or you give me anastrology point and it sounds
like something that I've neverheard before, and yet, it's a
prominent placement in my chart.
Elaine (19:35):
Yeah.
Beth (19:36):
So there's that aspect that you have to be willing.
To see yourself in new lightevery day because you actually
are in new light because you'reradiating that light from
within.
Elaine (19:49):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (19:50):
Hmm.
Elaine (19:50):
Yeah.
Beth (19:51):
All right.
Wow.
That is a gracious bit now.
Why don't we, in the last coupleminutes here, I know we have
some stuff to kinda clean up,but, why don't we talk a little
bit about what's coming next?
Like you alluded to it in thebeginning.
(20:11):
I don't wanna jump down the bigrabbit hole.
I don't want us to get lost downthere, but we have unpacked a
few things with this Neptunething and Saturn.
Elaine (20:23):
Yeah.
Beth (20:24):
know, I love Saturn.
I love me some Saturn,
Elaine (20:26):
Mm-hmm.
Me too.
And not trying to give anythingaway, but Saturn.
Is kind of changing his purposethrough the energy that we're
coming into.
And it has a lot to do with thethings that we've uncovered
about, like the reiki timelinewith Saturn and Neptune.
(20:48):
And one thing, I leak this alittle bit with you personally.
Saturn moved into Pisces.
In 2023.
How long have you been on thisdeep reconnection with Reiki
spiritual journey
Beth (21:05):
Hmm.
Elaine (21:06):
you and I Together
Beth (21:07):
yeah, since about that time.
Elaine (21:10):
Yeah, when I realized that, I'm like, that makes so
much sense because Saturn is.
learning and structure andgrounding energy.
Pisces is a spirituality,energy, and yeah, we embrace
that.
Beth (21:26):
We do.
Well, you know.
Well, it's funny because I caneven remember, like when I
started at the market and youfriended me, but like.
I knew I knew you, but I didn'tknow you.
And I mean, it was like thisweird little dance because it
was almost like we were kind ofcircling around it for a little
(21:46):
bit.
Elaine (21:47):
Yeah.
Beth (21:48):
Saturn was like, you two need to get together.
I am gonna make sure you crosspaths.
Here you go.
And you're gonna be fast andfurious together.
you're gonna go through somelearning.
Elaine (22:01):
Yeah.
Beth (22:01):
Little ride the waves up and down a bit, and here we are.
Elaine (22:06):
Yep.
Beth (22:07):
Yeah.
Hmm.
Elaine (22:09):
And then we have so much coming in, like just the timing
as Neptune and Saturn move intoAries We started this podcast
took things to the next levelenergetically, and we still are,
we're still studying and puttingall the pieces together and
finding our own way, and it'sjust magic the way that the
astrology is lining up with it.
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And it's not just us, it's foreverybody.
Beth (22:32):
Well, yeah.
So the questions I would say, sothe timeline that you said, so
Saturn came in, you said in2023?
Elaine (22:41):
So Saturn came into Pisces in 2023.
Neptune went into Pisces, Ithink it was 2011,
Beth (22:48):
Okay.
Elaine (22:49):
and both of them are moving into Aries.
They're gonna move into Aries.
So Neptune is in the Aries now.
Saturn is gonna move into Ariesin May.
They're gonna retrograde back,and then they're gonna finish
and go into Aries together nextyear, the beginning of next
year.
Beth (23:06):
So for the listeners, you know, think about what was
showing up in your life in 2023.
Just, you know, just a mirror.
Two years ago, what was showingup in your life?
What changes were you promptedto look at?
Were you questioning, were youlearning something new?
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Did you, did you put in morestructure in your life?
You know, if you wanna look backa little bit further to the
spiritual aspects of things,what was going on in your world
in, what was it, 20
Elaine (23:41):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (23:41):
20
Elaine (23:42):
when Neptune moved into Pisces.
Beth (23:45):
and that's a little bit more of a subtle, elusive kind
of thing.
it's just a little mysterious,you know?
So you don't necessarily see theflags of change.
From being in it, but mayberetrospect, looking back on what
was going on in my life from2011 till now, how do I see the
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milestone show up for me?
would be a good practice, youknow?
Elaine (24:14):
absolutely.
Beth (24:16):
Because we have some more things coming
Elaine (24:18):
Yes.
Beth (24:18):
That kinda blew our minds.
I gotta be honest with you, Istill like going back to the
notes and things.
I'm just so excited to sharethat.
It's like, can we tell now?
No, we can't.
Elaine (24:31):
No.
Beth (24:31):
We don't have
Elaine (24:32):
go into like how that affects the future collective
and spirituality and reiki goingforward, because that is a whole
other, yeah.
Beth (24:42):
Yeah,
Elaine (24:43):
I Can't start talking about it'cause I won't stop.
Beth (24:46):
we can't.
So until we share again, let'sjust take a minute and offer
some reiki to our viewers
Elaine (24:57):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (24:58):
for.
That idea of connecting to thatplace inside yourself, that
self-love resting on top of yourself-worth, that you have the
confidence to do the work thatyou were put here to do.
And it's cliche-ish to say loveand light, but that's really
what this is all about.
Its true essence of love andlight, and that's what Reiki for
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real life is all about.
Living into your divine purposewith the help of Reiki.
Of course.
Elaine (25:32):
Yes.
I like that.
Beth (25:33):
All righty.
Elaine (25:34):
Until next time.
Beth (25:35):
next time.
Hey,
Beth (00:00):
Lane.
Elaine (00:01):
what are we talking about today?
Beth (00:03):
Oh, well, I think there's a lot going on, in the energy
world of astrology and our girlVenus, is showing up pretty
strong.
you shared something with me.
About the astrology, and itpairs really well with what we
talked about in the last podcastabout astrology and reiki and
(00:25):
how you use it.
So why don't you give us theenergy update first, and let's
see where we go with this.
About Venus?
Elaine (00:33):
Yes.
Okay.
So last episode, we were talkinga lot about Saturn and Neptune
at the end,
Beth (00:39):
Mm-hmm.
Elaine (00:39):
but we do need to process that a little bit more
'cause there's so much to wrapour heads around that and we
have had conversations aboutthat.
So we're gonna pause that partof the conversation and jump
into another thing that'shappening right now, which is
Venus.
Venus is the star of the show,this month in April.
And I think it pairs perfectlywith what we were talking about,
Reiki and self-care andconnecting to yourself and your
(01:02):
authentic self because Venus isabout self-worth.
It's about our values, how wevalue ourselves.
It's about love, and it is aboutconnecting with others, but it's
about connecting with yourselftoo.
So.
In the astrology right now weare at the last deck in, is what
they call like the last third ofAries, and it's actually rolled
by Venus, which I think is cool.
(01:23):
So it's got that fiery Ariesenergy to it, but with a Venus,
undercurrent, which I think is areally cool combination.
And we realized you have yourmoon in that deck and two, which
is a whole other.
Thing that we need to tap into,one-on-one.
But, I just think that's a coolfeeling of energy right now.
And then we have, Venus is stillin retrograde, but it's going
(01:46):
direct Saturday.
And on Saturday we have a LibraFull Moon.
Libra is ruled by Venus.
And then two weeks later we havea Taurus New Moon.
Taurus is also ruled by Venus.
So we have all of this Venusenergy happening this month.
But there's gonna be hard stufftoo.
There's going to be some Marsand some Pluto coming in there,
(02:06):
some fiery stuff, just like theAries energy.
But it's like Venus wants toshine.
Venus wants to be the star ofthe show, but it's kind of
getting taken over by this otherenergy.
So I really wanna bring Venus tothe forefront, especially with
our Reiki practices.
Like, you know, we talked aboutlast episode, bringing the
astrology into the reiki, andthis is a perfect example of.
(02:27):
A perfect time to do that.
cause we have all this fieryenergy going on.
We need to pull more of that.
Venus.
We need to rely on a little bitmore of that venous energy this
month to get us through some ofthat tougher stuff.
Beth (02:40):
So.
The Venus Energy.
Some people think of it as justthe love planet,
Elaine (02:47):
Right.
Beth (02:48):
And it's not, she's not gushy necessarily, you know, and
with it being retrograde, itspeaks to the idea of the love
for yourself.
So if you can work through theending, like here, hurry up and
catch up.
Like, this is gonna probablyshow up after Venus goes direct
(03:09):
right in our release.
So, this little.
helpful tip that I'm giving themnow, they'll have to use for the
next time Venus retrograde, butit's about the looking inward
because with the retro grades,it's always about that internal
work, not the working withothers, so to speak.
Right.
Elaine (03:28):
And a lot of people have probably had recurring themes
come up during this venousretrograde for the past month or
so, around themselves, aroundtheir relationships, around how
they act in relationships.
And like I said, that self-worthis a huge part of it.
And if you're not working onvaluing yourself and honoring
(03:50):
that self-worth, then youprobably had some stuff come up
in your relationships thatwasn't pretty.
Beth (03:55):
Yeah.
Or your finances, because youtalk about self value, Venus
also rules the money, so tospeak.
Elaine (04:03):
Yeah.
Beth (04:03):
you know, people forget that, and it's not the love of
money, but it is that aspect ofvaluing yourself.
Elaine (04:12):
Yes, exactly.
Beth (04:13):
that in internal work, you know, the, what I, what I see in
my head, kind of, I'm takingyour language.
is the, Venus literally sittingat the heart center right?
Elaine (04:27):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (04:28):
resting on top of the solar plexus because solar
plexus is about self-worth.
And you know, the heart centeris about that love aspect, but
it's compassion and that kind ofthing.
So if you can care deeply froman objective place of that solar
plexus supporting you, not in acodependent way, not in I need
(04:52):
love, but I am love.
What Reiki brings into things,you know, because reiki is that
divine essence of love.
It heals with love, and it isfrom a very deep place within
that the healing happens.
Elaine (05:10):
that really is a key point to the Reiki energy G.
I love.
The Venus sitting on top of thesolar plexus, it brought to mind
like, we always talk aboutshining your light and I feel
like the light comes from thesolar plexus.
So what a better way to chargeit than with that Venus heart
centered energy, which a lot oftimes we give to other people.
(05:31):
You know, we shine it outbecause that's what we're,
taught to do.
So we shine it this way when weneed to shine it.
All through, you know, ourchakras first, so then that
charges us, which charges otherpeople.
Beth (05:46):
Yeah,
Elaine (05:46):
You don't lose the light.
When you light another candle,you just spread it.
Beth (05:51):
I like that visual a lot.
And I'm racking my brain on,Instagram, rabbi Guy, I can't
think of his name right now.
Elaine (05:59):
Oh yeah.
Beth (06:00):
but he had a clip that I watched this week that talked
about, you know, self-care and.
your living your soul's purpose.
this was the message that I gotfrom him it's not selfish when
you are giving yourself selflove and thinking of yourself
(06:22):
and the work that you'resupposed to do, as long as
you're doing it from your soul'splace, your soul's purpose.
Elaine (06:30):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (06:30):
where this me generation is, is that it's from a
material.
I wanna be first kind to play,which is not the, the Venus,
retrograde feeling of love.
It's the sole purpose.
Let me connect to what you'resupposed to be doing.
Let me.
(06:50):
Help you along the path thereand keep you and connect to that
divine energy that's inside ofyou.
And then your purpose becomesstronger.
Your relationships becomedeeper.
Your profitability, or money orvalue, becomes richer because
the rich aspect of Venus is notjust dollars and cents, it's
(07:12):
value,
Elaine (07:13):
Mm-hmm.
It's the what you project youget back.
So the more you can project thatauthentic love for yourself and
everybody else, and respectingeverybody else's purpose, you
get that back too.
So people start to see yourvalue because you're connecting
in an honest and true way.
And us connecting to reiki helpsus to kind of find.
(07:37):
That path or connect us moredeeply into our authentic selves
and our authentic path.
it gently guides you and kind ofwhen you go off the path, it's
not like it slaps your hand andputs you back on.
It shows you these instanceswhere you know your self-worth
is put under a microscope orsomebody isn't respecting your
(07:59):
energy the way you want them to.
You know, and one thing that wasjust coming to my mind when you
were talking about that, shiningthe light on this.
Full Moon in Libra that's comingup this weekend is going to be
the sun, you know, shines on themoon, lights it up.
Illumination is kind of like thetheme of full moons.
The sun is going to be directlywith Chiron, the wounded healer.
Beth (08:24):
Oh.
Elaine (08:25):
So it's shining a light on all those wounds, especially
in this self-worth.
And relationship area.
So I really feel like it's goingto be a big one about release,
which is something that wetalked about with the, you know,
the Holy Fire reiki and how thathelps you to release a lot of
these wounds.
And so if you are Reiki trainedgoing forward, like this is
(08:47):
going to be released after thisfull moon, but it's going to be
prominent, you know, for thenext six months.
Really look at what's coming uparound those wounds.
The Chiron is going to be anAries too.
So Aries is that authentic self.
We talk about that a lot.
So I mean, there are reasonsthat we're talking about what
we're talking about now becausethe astrology lines up to that
(09:08):
and the healing and the reikienergy.
It just, it truly is likeshining the light on the path.
Like, here you go.
Here's the next step.
Here's the next thing to heal.
Beth (09:19):
The planets cycle around, and this is how healing happens
too.
So this is the beauty ofastrology and reiki, or
self-care work, that kind ofthing, is that it circles
around.
So as the planet's orbit, thesun, they're circling around.
They're not necessarily hittingexactly the same point.
(09:39):
I mean, they kind of track, youknow.
Elaine (09:41):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (09:42):
And it gives you opportunity to come back to
these lessons over and overagain, and in self-development
work, in spiritualself-development work and
healing the ego based things,you circle back around to the
same lesson, but you're comingat it from a different place
because you have.
Hopefully evolved.
(10:02):
Learned a lesson, moved along,and you're presented again with
an opportunity to level up againwhen you circle back around to
these common themes and I.
One thing that we have foundthrough our personal work
together is that we've used thedistance symbol a lot to help us
(10:25):
in these places of self-healing,around our self-worth, around
the lessons of Venus and Libra,like that balance thing.
I know like you love the Libraenergy because it's prominent in
your chart.
Elaine (10:41):
Yes.
Beth (10:41):
So, and that's the beauty of working with somebody and
understanding their placementsbecause it does help us learn
lessons that maybe wouldn't beas easy if we weren't working
separately together.
Right.
Elaine (10:58):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Beth (10:59):
Yeah.
Elaine (11:00):
Yeah.
No, I like that.
cause it really does help.
I haven't taken my own adviceand done my own self work
because I'm like, I am a Librarising.
I should be very in tune withthis moon.
So there's a lesson there aboutself-care because that is part
of my self-care ritual, and I'vebeen so busy that I have not
(11:20):
done that for myself.
And that's, thank you forpointing that out.
It was like I needed that kindawake up call.
Beth (11:28):
As in the last episode or the episode before, it's in the
Vel Love baby,
Elaine (11:32):
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
Beth (11:34):
Yeah.
Elaine (11:34):
yeah, if you look at our energies, we share the Capricorn
sun.
That's kind of like our sharedthing.
But then the rest is soopposite.
you have Aries energy and I haveLibra Energy, which are opposite
energies, Me honoring your Ariesand you honoring my Libra helps
us.
And even in times, I have to belike, I should call on more of
(11:56):
that Aries energy, like Beth,because I need action on
something, or I need to stand upfor myself.
It's calling in those energiestoo.
'cause everybody has all 12signs in their chart.
we are capable of all of thesethings.
It's just.
How they show up for us or howwe use them.
Beth (12:13):
well, and I think the power of what you said in the
last episode, talking aboutcalling in.
Reiki, like sending reiki tothat astrological aspect and
then inviting that aspect in issuch a, a powerful tool because
(12:35):
now you know, yes, reiki isdivine energy, but like the
structure of the archetypes.
The planets planet and of thehouse placements and that kind
of thing gives you a language todo the healing.
Elaine (12:53):
Yeah, no, that's right on point.
I have so much stuff droppinginto my head right now.
I don't even know to go with it,but.
Beth (13:01):
Okay, well, okay.
Let's, let me see if this willhelp you ferret it out there.
Like piece it out is, there's abig component in the Venus
aspect of self-care andself-love, and that would be,
the forgiveness factor, Terry.
Elaine (13:20):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I feel like that's hugeWith all of our classes and our
groups and our shares, I feellike that's a big topic that
comes up.
Forgiving ourselves.
Forgiving ourselves for wantingto have self-care moments and
have time to ourselves a lot ofthe ladies that come to the
group say, I just had to getoutta the house.
I had to tell everybody, this ismy time.
(13:42):
I'm going, this is part of myself care and I love that, I
know.
That they feel guilty about itsometimes, just like I do,
Beth (13:50):
Yeah.
Elaine (13:51):
But we have to forgive ourselves for being in that
place because it's not selfish.
It's not something that we needto forgive or make up for.
You know, a lot of times I feellike if I take this hour for me,
then I need to make up for it insome way and.
Mm-hmm.
Beth (14:28):
am a person who internally hold a lot of guilt, but people
don't see it on the outside.
Right?
Because, you know, I have the, Ihave the Capricorn stoic face
with some of my other dark andtwisty placements that keep me
looking like, you know, I can doit all myself and on the inside.
(14:49):
There is a lot of that guilt andworry and even fear that that's
where I shine my light on forself-healing and spiritual
attachment and you know, all thedifferent ways the wounded
healer, like, you know, I shouldjust have a T-shirt that says,
Hey, that's me because, youknow, I'm just, just call me
(15:11):
Chiron because here I am.
For the aspects of never feelingunderstood growing up, you know,
because I was born with Chironin a prominent place in my
chart.
So it says, your work is gonnabe tough and you're gonna have
to deal with these wounds.
And so buckle up buttercup.
'cause the lessons are comingfast and furious, right?
(15:34):
So the exterior shows.
Together and all that kind ofstuff.
The interior is where the fullmoon in Libra.
And you know, Venus in herbeauty and wisdom can really
support me through connectingwith that reiki energy and brain
(15:55):
and inviting it in.
Elaine (15:57):
Yeah.
Beth (15:57):
gotta let that one sit for a minute
Elaine (15:59):
Yeah, it, it's a lot.
But could you imagine all ofthat stuff that you went through
without reiki, especially now,you've healed so much since I've
known you through Reiki andthrough working with these
placements and through workingwith this, you know, the guilt
and the shame and owning it,facing it, and processing it.
Beth (16:22):
Right.
Elaine (16:22):
Those are parts of the pieces, you know, those are the
pieces to the puzzle that needto be done, and I couldn't
imagine doing it without Reiki.
Beth (16:31):
Yeah, I gotta be honest with you, the number of years
that I've been working withReiki, it continues to support,
heal in a.
Supportive and gentle way.
sometimes the lessons aredifficult, but it's nurturing me
back to my divine purpose andbeing able to stand confidently
(16:58):
in what that purpose is becausesometimes it takes us a long
time to figure out what thebleep is that purpose.
Elaine (17:06):
Right.
Beth (17:06):
mean, one of my favorite expressions, I won't use it
here, but you know, it's blankforsake, you know,
Elaine (17:14):
Right.
Beth (17:15):
because it just, spiritual work isn't soft and fluffy,
Elaine (17:22):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (17:22):
it's not heavenly angels sitting on puffy clouds.
Elaine (17:27):
No.
Beth (17:28):
it's not, you know, sunshine and rainbows all the
time.
Sometimes it's standing withsomebody in suffering or growth
or struggle or,
Elaine (17:38):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (17:38):
know, despair.
You know, there are so manypeople who are living in despair
and fear right now that it is sopalpable Having the trust in the
energy that you do your ownwork, that you can then stand
with somebody else when they'relearning how to do their work.
(17:59):
it just, that just like reallyhit my heart
Elaine (18:02):
Yeah.
No.
Mm-hmm.
Beth (18:03):
that because people don't know.
What they don't know is.
A hard thing.
Elaine (18:09):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (18:10):
sometimes they don't wanna see where the work is.
Elaine (18:13):
Yeah.
Because it is hard.
It's not fun to look at yourshadows and look at the parts of
you that maybe aren't that greatbecause that's part of the
spiritual work is facing thatand you know, facing it in
others too, and being okay withthem and yourself and respecting
(18:34):
that energy.
Everybody has their own path andeverybody has their own energy
and nobody's perfect andeverybody has flaws.
And being okay with the flawswith yourself and with others,
like that's a hard thing to beaware of and accept and
sometimes look past.
Beth (18:54):
Yeah.
Sometimes I feel like I'mmeeting myself for the first
time, I've done this work, Ialmost don't recognize who I've
become, because I have changedso much that then when I go to
do the work, it's like I'veheard something for the first
time.
I'm back to that beginner's mindplace where.
(19:17):
I might read the manual, youknow, we've talked about our
teaching manuals.
I might read it and it's almostlike I'm reading it for the
first time, or you give me anastrology point and it sounds
like something that I've neverheard before, and yet, it's a
prominent placement in my chart.
Elaine (19:35):
Yeah.
Beth (19:36):
So there's that aspect that you have to be willing.
To see yourself in new lightevery day because you actually
are in new light because you'reradiating that light from
within.
Elaine (19:49):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (19:50):
Hmm.
Elaine (19:50):
Yeah.
Beth (19:51):
All right.
Wow.
That is a gracious bit now.
Why don't we, in the last coupleminutes here, I know we have
some stuff to kinda clean up,but, why don't we talk a little
bit about what's coming next?
Like you alluded to it in thebeginning.
(20:11):
I don't wanna jump down the bigrabbit hole.
I don't want us to get lost downthere, but we have unpacked a
few things with this Neptunething and Saturn.
Elaine (20:23):
Yeah.
Beth (20:24):
know, I love Saturn.
I love me some Saturn,
Elaine (20:26):
Mm-hmm.
Me too.
And not trying to give anythingaway, but Saturn.
Is kind of changing his purposethrough the energy that we're
coming into.
And it has a lot to do with thethings that we've uncovered
about, like the reiki timelinewith Saturn and Neptune.
(20:48):
And one thing, I leak this alittle bit with you personally.
Saturn moved into Pisces.
In 2023.
How long have you been on thisdeep reconnection with Reiki
spiritual journey
Beth (21:05):
Hmm.
Elaine (21:06):
you and I Together
Beth (21:07):
yeah, since about that time.
Elaine (21:10):
Yeah, when I realized that, I'm like, that makes so
much sense because Saturn is.
learning and structure andgrounding energy.
Pisces is a spirituality,energy, and yeah, we embrace
that.
Beth (21:26):
We do.
Well, you know.
Well, it's funny because I caneven remember, like when I
started at the market and youfriended me, but like.
I knew I knew you, but I didn'tknow you.
And I mean, it was like thisweird little dance because it
was almost like we were kind ofcircling around it for a little
(21:46):
bit.
Elaine (21:47):
Yeah.
Beth (21:48):
Saturn was like, you two need to get together.
I am gonna make sure you crosspaths.
Here you go.
And you're gonna be fast andfurious together.
you're gonna go through somelearning.
Elaine (22:01):
Yeah.
Beth (22:01):
Little ride the waves up and down a bit, and here we are.
Elaine (22:06):
Yep.
Beth (22:07):
Yeah.
Hmm.
Elaine (22:09):
And then we have so much coming in, like just the timing
as Neptune and Saturn move intoAries We started this podcast
took things to the next levelenergetically, and we still are,
we're still studying and puttingall the pieces together and
finding our own way, and it'sjust magic the way that the
astrology is lining up with it.
(22:29):
And it's not just us, it's foreverybody.
Beth (22:32):
Well, yeah.
So the questions I would say, sothe timeline that you said, so
Saturn came in, you said in2023?
Elaine (22:41):
So Saturn came into Pisces in 2023.
Neptune went into Pisces, Ithink it was 2011,
Beth (22:48):
Okay.
Elaine (22:49):
and both of them are moving into Aries.
They're gonna move into Aries.
So Neptune is in the Aries now.
Saturn is gonna move into Ariesin May.
They're gonna retrograde back,and then they're gonna finish
and go into Aries together nextyear, the beginning of next
year.
Beth (23:06):
So for the listeners, you know, think about what was
showing up in your life in 2023.
Just, you know, just a mirror.
Two years ago, what was showingup in your life?
What changes were you promptedto look at?
Were you questioning, were youlearning something new?
(23:27):
Did you, did you put in morestructure in your life?
You know, if you wanna look backa little bit further to the
spiritual aspects of things,what was going on in your world
in, what was it, 20
Elaine (23:41):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (23:41):
20
Elaine (23:42):
when Neptune moved into Pisces.
Beth (23:45):
and that's a little bit more of a subtle, elusive kind
of thing.
it's just a little mysterious,you know?
So you don't necessarily see theflags of change.
From being in it, but mayberetrospect, looking back on what
was going on in my life from2011 till now, how do I see the
(24:10):
milestone show up for me?
would be a good practice, youknow?
Elaine (24:14):
absolutely.
Beth (24:16):
Because we have some more things coming
Elaine (24:18):
Yes.
Beth (24:18):
That kinda blew our minds.
I gotta be honest with you, Istill like going back to the
notes and things.
I'm just so excited to sharethat.
It's like, can we tell now?
No, we can't.
Elaine (24:31):
No.
Beth (24:31):
We don't have
Elaine (24:32):
go into like how that affects the future collective
and spirituality and reiki goingforward, because that is a whole
other, yeah.
Beth (24:42):
Yeah,
Elaine (24:43):
I Can't start talking about it'cause I won't stop.
Beth (24:46):
we can't.
So until we share again, let'sjust take a minute and offer
some reiki to our viewers
Elaine (24:57):
Mm-hmm.
Beth (24:58):
for.
That idea of connecting to thatplace inside yourself, that
self-love resting on top of yourself-worth, that you have the
confidence to do the work thatyou were put here to do.
And it's cliche-ish to say loveand light, but that's really
what this is all about.
Its true essence of love andlight, and that's what Reiki for
(25:25):
real life is all about.
Living into your divine purposewith the help of Reiki.
Of course.
Elaine (25:32):
Yes.
I like that.
Beth (25:33):
All righty.
Elaine (25:34):
Until next time.
Beth (25:35):
next time.
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