June 27, 2025 • 55 mins
A powerful wave of peaceful resistance swept across America on June 14, 2025, as over 5 million citizens gathered in 2,100 cities and towns for No Kings Day. From small coastal communities like Wallala to major metropolitan centers, Americans of all ages exercised their First Amendment rights to voice opposition against what many view as presidential overreach and environmental devastation.
The current administration's systematic dismantling of critical environmental agencies stands at the heart of many protesters' concerns. We explore how the gutting of scientific expertise at the EPA and NOAA threatens decades of environmental progress and our ability to address pressing challenges like climate change. When federal authorities released water from California dams without understanding the state's water systems, it highlighted a dangerous pattern of uninformed intervention that wastes precious resources and undermines state authority.
Through intimate conversations with local participants Wendy White and Sandy Wright, we discover the deeply personal motivations driving ordinary citizens to stand up for democracy and environmental protection. Their perspectives reveal how political decisions have real-world impacts on communities, from agricultural workers facing aggressive immigration raids to educators struggling to teach environmental stewardship while the government models the opposite.
Beyond documenting the protests, we examine concerning legislation currently moving through Congress that threatens marine sanctuaries, and we analyze the manipulation tactics being deployed to distract and divide Americans. By recognizing patterns of gaslighting, fear-mongering, and misinformation, we can better equip ourselves to protect
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Leigh Anne Lindsey (00:10):
Welcome to the Resilient Earth Podcast,
where we talk with speakers fromthe United States and around
the world about the criticalissues facing our planet and the
positive actions people aretaking, from the tiniest of
actions to the grandest ofgestures, so that we can
continue to thrive and survivefor generations to come.
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Leigh Anne Lindsey, producerand host, along with co-hosts
and co-producers Scott and TreeMercer of Mendonoma Whale and
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coasts.
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Ranch.
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This week's episode of ResilientEarth Radio and Podcast is
going to be different from pastepisodes, as we take a look at
the local and national turnoutthat happened during no King's
Day, june 14th 2025, why ithappened and why that is
important for our discussions onthe environment.
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This planet is extremelyinterconnected through nature,
the oceans and atmosphere.
What happens in one locationhas the ability to affect the
entire planet.
For example, the wastemanagement practice of
industrial nations, as we'velearned, produces plastics and
debris that washes up on beacheseverywhere.
(02:25):
Oil and chemical spills spreadfar and wide in the ocean.
There's also rising noiselevels in our oceans from
shipping to military activities,offshore drilling and mining.
That could also be increasingsoon, and definitely a big push
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by companies around the worldthat are heavily funded to go
after deep sea mining.
We'll be talking about thatissue actually in next week's
episode with our scientificexpert on noises in the ocean
human generated noises in theocean, specifically-generated
noises in the ocean specificallyand that's Michael Stocker,
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founder of the OceanConservation Research, located
in Marin County, and then you'llbe hearing that episode next
week.
Now back to this nationwide noKing's Day protest that happened
all across the United Statesback on June 14th.
This was peaceful and I willsay it again, if even a lot of
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the media does not focus on this, this peaceful turnout in
cities, large and small, was theright to voice opposition
against political actions thatthe people I'm talking about,
the majority of the people inthis country do not support.
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There were over 5 millionpeople that turned out to make
their voices heard that day, andthis is an inalienable right
that the US Constitution allowscitizens to do.
The First Amendment guaranteesthe right to freedom of speech
and assembly, and that isexactly what peaceful protesters
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did all over this country,including me, the producer and
host of this podcast and radioshow, leanne Lindsay, and my
podcast collaborators, scott andTree Mercer.
We are concerned about thechaotic, disruptive and
destructive actions that thiscurrent administration has taken
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with, specifically out of allthe other disruptive activities
that they've got going on,specifically with our
environmental agencies, like theEPA rolling back protections
for us that we worked hard overthe years to achieve and NOAA,
the National Oceanic andAtmospheric Administration.
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They are responsible for notonly studying climate, but all
the weather patterns that areaffecting our country.
They provide this informationto pilots that fly our
commercial airlines.
They provide it to the CoastGuard.
Well, along with the scientificand educational programs in
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this country and educationalprograms in this country, their
budgets were not only cut andclawed back, but they gutted.
They gutted the agencies of thetop scientists and put in
inexperienced yes people.
This is not the way to runthese organizations.
We believe and it's our rightto say so.
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We believe and it's our rightto say so.
And while this administrationmay think that eliminating the
phrase climate change ongovernmental websites and
replacing these top scientistswith yes, people, then their
heads are filled with wishfulthinking and stuck in that
proverbial sand.
And this is my opinion.
This is my ability to say sothrough this podcast.
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This is my show, along withScott and Tree Mercer, resilient
Earth Radio and Podcast.
Today you'll hear a conversationthat I decided to have with my
neighbors here in Sea Ranch.
They had family that came upduring this weekend of the
protests.
It was my neighbor's niece,Wendy White, and her partner,
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Sandy Wright a few days after NoKing's Day.
It all started when I met themthe same day of the event, when
we all stopped for pet food atthe local pet store and I said
you know what?
I'd like to get some inputabout the local flavor here,
going down also to the SanFrancisco Bay Area, which is
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just south of us, where a lot ofus up here are from.
As a matter of fact, I wantedto get this input from them.
Coming up in just a few minutes, you're going to hear from them
and my conversation with them.
Coming up in just a few minutes, you're going to hear from them
and my conversation with them.
They came here to attend againthe no King's Day protests
Gualala and and Point Arena fromthe Bay Area where they live in
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Fairfield, because Wendy'sfamily has been visiting and
living in this area for the past40 years.
Wendy is the founder of TRYBECreative, which specializes in
food and wine with clients inseveral North San Francisco Bay
counties like Napa, marin andSonoma.
Sandy is a former Englishteacher and theater actor.
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They were married a few yearsago and have been together
almost 30 years.
At one point when Wendy'scommenting in this conversation
about the insertion ofuneducated federal
decision-making, that actuallyhappened this past February,
right as the Los Angeles fireswere happening.
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It was a decision to, theythought, help fight wildfires.
They bypassed and I'm sayingTrump and his administration,
bypassed those who govern andmanage the state.
They made a ridiculous blunderwhen they decided to release
large amounts of water from theTerminus and Schaefer dams in
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California's Central Valley,which, if you know anything
about that water system, it doesnot even connect with the
Southern California water system.
So here they thought oh, we'lljust do this and make this
sweeping decision and get itdone Again.
The water from the Terminus andSchaefer Dams in California's
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Central Valley is primarily usedfor irrigation in the Central
Valley.
It doesn't flow south to SoCal.
What a waste.
A waste because the water wasreleased during the winter, when
fields are dormant and theirrigation needs were low, and
it depleted valuable waterreserves that could have been
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used for agriculture during thedrier summer months.
There was simply nocoordination by this
administration with state andlocal water managers.
They didn't consider the floodrisks, even for downstream
communities.
This was all politicallymotivated.
This really was politicallymotivated, and that water
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release was primarily apolitical stunt intended to
demonstrate presidentialauthority over California's
water resources.
What a lost opportunity for theenvironment.
Again, these were valuablewater resources that could have
been used for groundwaterrecharge and other environmental
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purposes.
Overall, the February 2025water release by the federal
government from the CentralValley Dams was an extremely
poor decision, with potentiallynegative consequences for water
resources and agriculturalinterests in the region.
We talk about that, but we alsotalk about other irresponsible
and damaging decisions andpolicies this administration is
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taking and has taken, and why weall decided to get out and
protest that day.
But again let me stress, we allprotested peacefully.
It was not this big scene downin Los Angeles.
This was not what was beingportrayed in most media After
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that day.
If you look at most of thecontent online and I'm showing
in the visual version of thispodcast photos, images and
videos from around the countryand here locally, showing that
it was all very peaceful and ifyou can see the age of the
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people in these photographs andvideos, most of us are in our
60s, 70s and 80s.
There's even a woman in her 90sin her walker that has a sign
on it that says I'm 95, and I'mstill doing this stuff.
I'm still coming out to protest.
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We all felt it important toparticipate in that nationwide
event that compelled in thatnationwide event that compelled
again over 5 million people toget involved On June 14th 2025,
even people in US territoriesand Americans from around the
world.
I will reiterate again, becausethe media hasn't done the best
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job with following through oncoverage that shows peaceful
protests everywhere.
Before we get into our show, Ijust had to play this Instagram
post with actor and activistMark Ruffalo, who is speaking to
a reporter in New York City.
Sandy Wright (11:55):
Why does this matter?
Why are people out here gettingsoaked in the rain to send a
message?
Mark Ruffalo (12:01):
Because we see our democracies in real trouble.
We see a president who has madehimself a king and dictator and
we don't see an oppositionthat's powerful enough to stand
up against the trampling of ourrights and the trampling of the
Constitution that's happeningevery single day with executive
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orders, with the refusal to obeycourt orders, kidnapping of
immigrants, people who are herelegally, people who their
children are being taken fromthem.
We're disgusted and we'rescared and we know that the only
way to fight this now is forthe people is to come together.
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When a US senator is tackled ina press conference representing
his constituency with aquestion to the homeland
security who has invaded thatstate with a military presence,
you know you're heading towardsdictatorship.
That's a turning point.
You're only going to see moreof that happen.
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That's a turning point.
You're only going to see moreof that happen.
This administration willcontinue to overreach and this
will be the response.
We're not going away, we're notgoing to be quiet.
We love each other and werealize that we love this
country so much that we'releaving our homes today in the
rain to express our friendshipand love for the people here who
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made this place.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (13:34):
And this ability to get out on this day
is our constitutional right, andbringing it down to the
community level is why I decided, while in the pet store that
day, when we all showed uptogether, I asked them to have a
conversation with me abouttheir perspective on that day on
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the local level, from here onour remote coast down to the San
Francisco Bay Area just southof us.
And now we're going to jointhis conversation in progress
that I had with Wendy White, whois the niece of my neighbor
right across the street from mehere in Sea Ranch, laura Riddell
, and also Wendy's partner,sandy Wright.
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I'm Leanne Lindsay.
Thanks for listening toResilient Earth Radio.
Wendy White (14:28):
We thought long and hard about how and where we
were going to participate in noKing's Day and we really felt
like Sea Ranch and Malala wouldbe a wonderful place for us to
show our support.
We weren't sure exactly what toexpect and I have to say I was
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very proud to be there.
It was an extraordinary turnoutand I think that we were around
a very large group of smart,like-minded people who really
wanted to have a safe space toshow their support.
I was very impressed.
I was very impressed.
Sandy Wright (15:07):
The turnout was amazing for such a small place
Gualala and and I think theaverage age was mine 65.
Well, I turned 68, but I thinkthe average age was about 65
because there were a lot ofyoung people there too, you know
, wanting to show their supportbut also to protest the policies
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and actions that are happeningright now with our current
president and administration.
Just to be honest, you know wedon't agree with a lot of the
policies, but it was really fun.
We had a great weekend.
We broke out in song at onepoint singing America the
Beautiful and Flying the Flags,because of course, they do this
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every year to celebrate Flag Day.
So it just happened to be onFlag Day that we did all of this
.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (15:57):
The important part is that this was
peaceful.
Most every place was a peacefulturnout, yes, and the numbers
were staggering too in so manyways, especially for, like you
both said, for this remote areaup here it's a small community
and I spoke with one of theorganizers, Michael Thomas, and
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he said that probably becausethey were listed on the no Kings
organization's website aturnout of over 500.
Now, 500 for our little area isbig.
Wendy White (16:33):
Wow, that's amazing , that might be half.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (16:37):
Yeah, and that was right here in Gualala.
Then we also had another one inPoint Arena Right, and that
also was well attended.
And what concerns me the mostis how media tends to be
hyper-focused on the agitators,right.
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I really wanted peopleeverywhere to understand, not
only here in this countrycountry, but the other countries
where this podcast is listenedto, in over 65 countries where
they can hear from us, thepeople, that this is not like
that in general, I mean, and ingeneral it was an older crowd
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that turned out, yeah, yeah, andthere were comments on Facebook
that I saw that said don't geta job.
But you know what?
Most are retired or, you know,semi-retired.
And I saw one chair with awoman who was sitting there and
said can't believe it, I'm 95.
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I still have to come out and dothis.
Wendy White (17:44):
Exactly you do, you do, you do and that I think
Sandy and I we likened it to theneed when we marched for the
Women's March and weparticipated in Oakland, and it
was just that extraordinarycamaraderie that you felt with
the group.
And I'm not typically one whogoes out and speaks my mind I
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usually will do it in theprivacy of my friends and family
but this was really importantand I was so happy that we chose
to do it.
And just afterwards, like thenext day, going through and
seeing nationwide the outpouringof people in every city, every
city, it was amazing.
Sandy Wright (18:30):
Mostly in support of the whole immigration rates
and just the way they werehandled.
Some of these workers have beenwith their farms that they tend
for, you know, 30 plus yearsand families before them, and
really Mexico and California arebuddies, you know.
So we hated to see thetreatment of these people,
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especially what the currentevents in Los Angeles, which was
just really a coincidence thatthat all kind of happened at the
same time and from anagricultural standpoint.
Wendy White (19:03):
I mean, we're right next to Napa, my clients are
wine and beverage clients, andso there are generations and
generations and generations ofhistory of agricultural talent
that are working in all facetsof this industry.
Facets of this industry andjust I mean, we have been
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witnessing it at such viciouslevels and it is tearing apart
families, it's tearing apartcommunities and this was just
something I couldn't stand backand just watch happen and not
have a voice for it, and youcouldn't believe the numbers of
people who are Mexicans, thenumbers of people who are
Mexicans, growers, that we'resaying we are trying the process
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but our paperwork is being heldup in the government because
they're targeting us.
Sandy Wright (20:00):
We feel like we're being targeted, it just our
process gets stalled time aftertime after time, so that they're
trying, you know, to do theright thing, and so to just
target people is not appropriate.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (20:12):
Yes, we hear this from all across because
all of our counties here,starting with Napa, but Sonoma
County, mendocino County and upto Humboldt this is vineyard
agricultural country walnuttrees, almond trees, and a lot
of the workers who do this workcome in to do this.
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During certain times of theyear they do the harvest and I
know personally because we have22 acres of Cabernet on our
ranch and we have orchards andwe hire in a crew that comes in
specifically to do this.
And then you heard Trump comeout and say well, maybe we won't
do it against the farm workers.
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You know it's like do you notstop to think about this?
And this is our right to beable to get out there and to
protest, and we did sopeacefully, right?
And there's so many problemsand so many fronts.
It's the immigration issue,it's the way that they're
treating people, it is the waythat they've taken out, or Trump
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has executive orders to try tochange everything you know.
Sandy Wright (21:23):
it's interesting.
You talk to younger women.
We've been focused on those ofus who've been through many of
these kinds of things in ourlives disagreements with
administration and governmentbut you talk to the young people
and you know young girls inparticular concerned about the
reverse of Roe versus Wade andthe women march Wendy mentioned
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it was also millions of womenmarching to say hold on
government.
Whether you believe in abortionor not, abortion is really not
the point.
If a woman is in trouble andneeds to be treated, she
shouldn't die on the table orhave to search out some horrible
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, horrific operation.
It's time that these youngpeople speak up, and they are
now.
They're coming out in droves tosay you know, it seems wrong
that government should tellwomen, you know what they can or
can't do with their bodies.
You know that's kind of creepy.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (22:23):
And telling also people how to live their
lives and who they should livetheir lives with or who they
should be.
You know that's every person'shuman right to choose, and and I
think the two of you couldspeak to that part as well- well
, yeah, definitely to the wholemarriage thing.
Sandy Wright (22:42):
We wanted to, then we didn't because we thought we
weren't supposed to and weweren't covered.
And so how long do you have tolove somebody to prove that you
should be together?
Wendy White (22:52):
Right, yeah, I don't know many, many of my my
friends who have been couplesfor decades.
They always have in the back oftheir mind that they've gone
through the process and it willbe stripped away from them.
So some of us do.
You know the legal duediligence to make sure that as a
couple, that we are covered incertain ways.
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But we just know a lot of thepomp and circumstance that our
male and female friend couples.
There may be things that wejust can't enjoy at that level,
but we take every advantage thatwe can on a daily basis and
hope that maybe, maybe, maybewe'll get lucky and things don't
get taken away.
But I do want to circle back onone thing you were saying, back
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kind of to the agriculturalaspect of it.
I mean, we as a as California asa whole and I know we're a
little bit of a special anomalysometimes because of how much
business and industry we havewithin our state but I do know
that when the executive orders,as you mentioned, were flying
off the shelf, we saw a what wethought was a helping gesture
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where waters were released fromdams that were water storage
units down in the lower SouthernCal area and it ended up
becoming a huge disaster,because our state knows when
those levees are released tohelp with the fields and
different agricultural crops,and the big deluge of water that
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was let out was dissolved andlost and that was seen as a
gesture of thinking he had doneall the right things without
talking to anybody and madethese swift moves without
understanding the local politicsmake their own decisions, and
then what we're seeing latelyare big executive swoops that
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are now putting the governmentback into our space at levels
that don't make any sense.
Sandy Wright (24:54):
We should support our governor and the president
should support his governors.
These are leading managers ofCalifornia.
We provide $3 trillion tofederal income tax every year.
Wendy White (25:11):
The fifth largest economic in the world.
Sandy Wright (25:13):
Even the smallest state should be respected.
But you know what I mean.
It's like what are you doing?
Leigh Anne Lindsey (25:18):
I want to go back to not understanding the
issue and going in like with abulldozer and just plowing right
through, which he did, withorganizations all across the
board educational institutions,gutting their grants and funding
, and also NOAA, the NationalOceanic Atmospheric
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Administration.
They're the ones who tell uswhen hurricanes are coming,
tornadoes and the weather and,oh, they supply that information
to our airlines and to ourcoast guard.
This is something that, withignorance, coming in and gutting
those people, they took all thetop scientists, they that have
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been there for decades, rightand they understand these
processes.
They understand what needs toget done.
Now, like one of thesupervisors who was also let go,
whom I knew that was in chargeof both the Greater Fairlawn,
cordell Bank, she had said theycame in to take the first 20%
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and they didn't even ask her togo after the lowest performing.
They just came in and took ourtop scientists right off the top
.
Sandy Wright (26:32):
Right and I failed to mention that I'm an educator
.
Yeah, it's embarrassing to methat I'm teaching the opposite
of what my government isobviously modeling, of what my
government is obviously modeling.
I'm trying to teach these kidsabout protecting our environment
and doing the right things andthen they're seeing, possibly
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their parents supporting thisman who is creating chaos and
fear.
You know, literally I'm afraidto get into an airplane because
the FAA has been affected bythis, and there was someone in
his administration I can'tremember the name but in
response to it said well, youknow, the pilots can look out
the window.
I thought so.
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Now we're not supposed to usecomputers.
You know what is the problemhere?
Leigh Anne Lindsey (27:23):
And I'm a former private pilot and I'll
tell you right now you need tohave that radar.
Yeah, you do Right.
Wendy White (27:30):
Yeah, you do.
So I really hope that and I doknow that we have so much more
work to do we need to take alittle bit broader ownership on
connecting to therepresentatives that we have
elected into their positions andmake sure that they are
advocating for us.
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It does start from the groundup and I think sometimes, like
myself, in so many years, I justdidn't have a vehicle or I
didn't understand the direction.
But I'm finding in thesesmaller towns that I'm connected
with all over the Bay Area,that there are incredible groups
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that are doing incredible workto help navigate, to help get to
your representatives, to have avoice, and I think so many of
us speak to.
I just can't make a differencein the world right now.
Well, you can, you can and in,in, in, in incremental ways, if
there's just if all of us justdo one thing a day to make this
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world a better place, to put itin a position where where good
things happen.
It's amazing.
We saw it.
We saw it this weekend.
Yeah, that's.
I mean, those were.
Those were numbers.
There were over 5 million atsome point, where they were
saying between 3.5 million and 5million people participated
across the nation.
Sandy Wright (28:50):
Extraordinary.
Yeah, I read this too that wewere the envy of the world
economically.
You know we were being praisedfor what we were doing in
America and just in 100 plusshort days you know what
happened People are now, I'mhearing, don't travel to America
right now.
And it's like what happened.
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His style is to just sweep andbrush and that's extremely
dangerous, in my opinion.
Wendy White (29:22):
Yeah.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (29:23):
And I'm seeing pity messages coming from
all countries online on socialmedia.
It's really disheartening, butat the same time, like you said,
we can do.
What we can do and that's oneof the things that we're doing
with this podcast is trying toraise the awareness that there
are these critical issues, butthere are people who are taking
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positive action and the peoplewho are out on that day and who
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back to that kindness to ourneighbors, to one another.
Sandy Wright (30:13):
I don't know how many people from the military
just in Wallala but all over theplace came out to speak in
support and were there insupport members of the military
and were there in supportmembers of the military.
And I wonder how they feel.
And I just wanted to asksomebody how do you feel about
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this recent event where theMarines were asked to come into
Los Angeles and make a presence?
Whatever reason they were there, they're not trained to be
police enforcement.
They are trained to be policeenforcement.
They are trained to be incombat.
So having their presence therewas kind of vicious, you know,
and I think there's members ofthe military that not only agree
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but are embarrassed.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (30:58):
That's what I heard as well from I have a
number of military friends, butit's the action of pushing
through like a bulldozer againand when there's no thought in
advance that but this again ispart of their plan to create
chaos and chaos for whateverreason.
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The other side feels like thisis a great tool and that things
need to be remade.
I was in the tech industrywhere disruption was the key,
but in societies, in business,it's not human, no, and you need
stability.
You need to be able to forecast, you need to be able to expect
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and depend on certain things.
You need that stability, andthat's where they are disrupting
that balance in this country.
So we can do what we can withour voice, right With contacting
our representatives, by voting,by spreading awareness wherever
we can and participating inacts of ways that we can help,
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like you were just saying.
So, last comment that you guyswould like to say while we get
this chance to talk to peopleabout coming from us, for the
Americans that do not want thiscurrent administration to
continue acting out, what wouldyou both like to finish with
saying?
Sandy Wright (32:25):
I personally love the idea a friend of mine just
mentioned at the other daywriting to each and every single
one of the Supreme Court judges, because if we're not on the
side of the law, our lettersneed to be very specific.
There's a felon in the WhiteHouse, you know.
I mean they're breaking the lawand getting away with it and
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our judges are who we rely on.
Our judicial branch is a strongand should be respected branch
of the government, not just theexecutive branch you know, and
so I urge people to.
it's what 12 letters write them.
Wendy White (33:08):
I think for me, if I was sitting across the table
from someone that and I havethem in my family and friends
and I plead with them tounderstand that not everyone has
the same opportunities that tounderstand that sometimes
decisions can have devastatingeffects, and if they choose to
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make decisions in this world, toreally understand, read, pay
attention to what the action isgoing, what the outcome is going
to be based on a decision.
And I feel like sometimespeople think that everybody has
the same opportunity in thisworld.
Not everybody comes fromprivilege, not everyone comes
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from money, not everyone comesfrom, but I think we all come
from a human desire to succeedand so everybody's path is not
the same.
So I just would say make surethat you understand both sides
of the table.
I'm okay with having someonedisagree with me In fact, it
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makes me ask more questionsabout why and I want to make
sure that my decisions are basedon a complete understanding,
and so I just ask the other sideto have that equal compassion
and have a conversation.
I'm willing to talk to anyone.
I want to learn, I want tounderstand.
I just think that we need to,like you said earlier, let's
bring the temperature down andrealize that we're all human and
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we all want to live a wonderfullife, and being kind is going
to be the way to start thatprocess.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (34:49):
Really well put.
Thank you for that, Wendy andSandy.
I appreciate that both of youcoming on and talking with me
today about this.
Wendy White (34:57):
We appreciate you chatting with us this morning
and again sending you tons ofsupport and, however, we can
continue to help.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (35:04):
All right.
Well, you guys have a great day.
I know you're going to have abusy one too.
There's an excellent article inthe Independent Coast Observer,
written by Chelsea Randall,regarding this event.
It's entitled Over 500 AttendRallies Marked by Patrioticotic
calls to action.
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In this article she writes thatcoordinated rallies for no
Kings and Flag Day held on June14th in Wallala and Point Arena
drew more than 500 participantsand featured impassioned
speeches.
Over 300 protesters gatheredoutside the Wallala Hotel at 10
am on Saturday, marching andchanting for nearly two hours.
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They held signs, waved hundredsof American flags distributed
by we Are Democracy volunteersand joined in a heartfelt
rendition of this Land is yourLand.
The rallies continued in PointArena at noon, where more than
200 people lined Main Street.
A sea of red, white and blueflags and echoes of no hate, no
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fear, everyone is welcome hereset a unifying tone.
Local voices met the momentwith speeches highlighting the
need to be civically engaged,while remembering what the flag
truly stands for no justice, nopeace.
Michael Bone, daddy Thomasrepeated that throughout his
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speech in Wallala.
Thomas, a coastal resident for50 years, said he attended his
first protest at age 16.
He quoted two of his personalheroes Abraham Lincoln and
Martin Luther King Jr to remindthe crowd to stand up against
injustice.
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Before leading the Pledge ofAllegiance, thomas spoke about
the flag, its design and itsmeaning.
The flag its design and itsmeaning Our flag is a powerful
symbol of patriotism andnational unity, representing the
shared values and ideals of ournation.
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Thomas said Brian Flynn sworeto uphold these values when he
enlisted in the US Navy at 21.
As a submariner, he learned thathis service meant preserving
freedom, protecting his countryand, most importantly, he said,
supporting and defending theConstitution.
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This is what it's about.
Flynn said, holding up a copyof the document.
About.
Flynn said holding up a copy ofthe document.
This is what we're all doingright now defending the
Constitution.
This is the law of our land andthat is part of the excellent
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article written by ChelseaRandall in the Independent Coast
Observer on June 20, 2025.
I'll conclude with this we dohave resilience, each and every
one of us.
We can rebound, no matter howmuch they want to put us down.
There's an interesting model ofthis.
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Where I live, by the ocean,this model of resilience.
My home is surrounded byredwoods and their resilience is
notable.
There are numerous hollowed-outor burnt stumps which years ago
had either been struck bylightning, survived a fire or
were cut down by human hands.
(38:41):
Yet new life sprouts up allaround them, on top of them, on
their sides, in the form offerns, huckleberry bushes,
mosses, redwood, sorrel, salalrhododendron, other woodland
perennials and native plants,including new redwoods and even
(39:03):
other types of trees, whichsprout from redwood stumps,
doesn't matter how blackenedthey were by fire or lightning
strikes.
In most cases, new redwoodsprout and grow in circles
around the stumps, which manycall fairy rings.
The vision of these isinspirational and I'm sharing a
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number of those photos in thevisual version that you will
find on YouTube coming up thisweekend.
Those of us who live and wereborn in the United States, who
do not agree to the changes bythis administration that are
harmful to the environment,harmful to the climate and not
protecting living nature for itsservices to all humankind as we
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heard Ralph Chalmy and otherson this podcast previously
discuss Nurture nature andnature nurtures us, something
Richard Charter of the OceanFoundation mentioned in one of
the last episodes Indigenousaround the world know this
inherently, which brings me tomy next topic.
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What does it mean, by the way,to mark up a bill?
Well, it means for alegislative committee to
formally review, amend and vote.
It's a key step in thelegislative process, where
committee members debate billsand offer and vote on proposed
changes amendments, in otherwords and ultimately decide
(40:36):
whether to recommend the bill tothe full chamber for further
consideration.
The reason I bring this up isbecause what's happening right
now on 20 bills in the House ofNatural Resources, in the
committee there, they met onJune 25th to participate in a
markup on those 20 bills, whichinclude two bills that would
(40:57):
undermine national marinesanctuaries.
Let me say that again, there aretwo bills that would undermine
our national marine sanctuariesand they are HR 2556 by
Republican representative fromTexas Hunt, comprehensive
(41:21):
Offshore Resource EnhancementAct of 2025, also called CORE
C-O-R-E.
Also called CORE C-O-R-E.
The CORE Act would allow forseismic blasting and other oil
and gas exploration activitiesto be conducted across our
entire outer continental shelf,including in our national marine
(41:44):
sanctuaries, including in thosenational marine sanctuaries
which have been proving to besuccessful over the past 20
years of work there, and theseactivities lay the foundations
for future oil and gasdevelopment and other extractive
uses.
And we've got example afterexample after example of oil
(42:07):
spills and disasters that happenbecause of human error and
technology's not always perfect.
Equipment's not always perfect.
Okay, so now to the next bill.
There's HR 261, brought to thefloor by Republican from Georgia
, representative Carter,undersea Cable Protection Act of
(42:30):
2025, which attempts to amendthe National Marine Sanctuary
Act to permanently eliminateNOAA's authority to authorize or
reject permits for theinstallation, operation,
maintenance, repair or recoveryof undersea fiber optic cables
(42:53):
in a National Marine Sanctuaryif such activities have
previously been authorized by afederal or state agency.
In summary, the House NaturalResources Committee is currently
marking up several bills, whichinclude HR 2556 and HR 261.
These bills aim to increaseoffshore energy exploration and
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to propel the permits forundersea cables, raising serious
concerns about negative impactsto these fragile ecosystems
that are living and thriving innational marine sanctuaries.
It is for these reasons, andmany others, that we got out us
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older senior people to protestthat day, on no Kings Day.
There are too many actions thatare being taken single-handedly,
bulldozing forward without anyconsideration of the damage
they're causing, and we did itpeacefully, and you will notice
that there are so many phrasesthat the other side uses to
(44:08):
manipulate and gaslight theinformation, and I would like to
touch on that in just a moment.
I want to say one more thingthat, coming up, we're going to
also have a report by CaptainPaul Watson, who attended and
spoke at UNOC, which was the UNOcean Conference held in Nice,
(44:30):
france, recently.
He wrote that 60 nations weresecured to ratify the High Seas
Treaty.
We want to talk to him aboutthat.
He says it will give additionalauthority and solid legal
defense for interventionsagainst illegal activities like
whaling, fishing, turtlepoaching, shark finning, but
(44:52):
also against environmentalthreats like deep sea mining,
plastic debris and otherunlawful activities.
The High Seas Treaty joins theUnited Nations World Charter for
Nature as an importantenforcement tool.
Hundreds of ocean supportersfrom around the globe, including
civil society organizations,ngos, academic institutions, the
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scientific community, theprivate sector, philanthropic
organizations and indigenouspeoples, all came together to
discuss the challenges andopportunities for implementing
their goals.
Here are a few of the outcomeswe heard about from the
International Ocean FilmFestival update that, regarding
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marine protected areas, frenchPolynesia announced it will
create the world's largestmarine protected area.
Hooray for them.
As for the High Seas Treaty.
By the conclusion of theconference, the treaty had 136
signatories.
Those ratifying the treatyincluded island states such as
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Antigua, barbados, belize, cubaand Dominica, and the European
Union, some of its members,including France, portugal and
Spain, other nations such asChile, norway and South Korea.
You can learn more about thesignatories and other parties on
the UN website.
When deep sea mining wasdiscussed, world leaders
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continued to call for amoratorium.
There's more that came out ofthe UN Ocean Conference and that
will be coming up in a coupleof weeks with Captain Paul
Watson.
Back to the no Kings Dayprotest, just to conclude, it
was again estimated that morethan 5 million people
participated in 2,100 cities andtowns, including the flagship
(46:41):
event in Philadelphia.
Protests that also took placein US territories and foreign
countries.
Days later, what happens?
But this administration dropsbombs and fired missiles at Iran
.
I'm Leigh Anne Lindsey and, inmy opinion, distraction is the
name of the game that Trump andhis enablers are using to gain
more power, influence and incomeand to take the heat off their
(47:04):
reckless changes to thiscountry's infrastructure.
Divide, distract, discourage,dissuade, according to new
psychology research by Eric WDolan that was released this
past May.
He wrote that politicaldiscussions in 2025 are still
grappling with issues ofnarcissistic mirroring,
manipulation and gaslighting,often linked to authoritarian
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tendencies and their impact ondemocratic processes.
And they keep using that phrasethe deep state to put fear in
people's minds.
They use that fear tactic.
And so what can we do?
It is crucial for credible newsorganizations, public officials
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and engaged citizens tocollaborate in sharing accurate
information and exposing theseharmful methods.
It's why I'm doing this podcastright now.
It's why I'm focused on thistoday.
I was very encouraged by the noKings Day turnout, but I'll
continue.
The second thing that we can doare community initiatives that
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can include supporting honestpolitical candidates, promoting
media literacy and having opendiscussions to challenge
manipulated narratives.
I'll say that again Opendiscussions to challenge
manipulated narratives.
Remain informed about politicaldevelopments and resist the
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temptation to become disengaged.
It's easy to do, I know, butit's essential in safeguarding
democratic institutions.
Be aware of inconsistencies.
Pay attention to whether apolitician's words align with
their actions or their paststatements.
This is a good one when itcomes to Trump.
(48:56):
In specific Fact.
Check information.
Don't automatically acceptstatements as true, even from
those in positions of power.
Verify information fromreliable sources.
Trust your instincts.
Information from reliablesources.
Trust your instincts.
If something feels off or makesyou question your own judgment,
(49:17):
it may be a sign of gaslighting.
Consider the source.
Be critical of information fromsources that seem overly biased
or designed to provoke a strongemotional response.
They want to provoke that fearor anger response.
Don't let them Look forpatterns.
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Pay attention to repeatedinstances of denial, blame
shifting or attempts to rewritehistory.
In conclusion, narcissisticmirroring and gaslighting are
serious concerns in thepolitical sphere.
That's eroding public trust allacross our country and
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potentially hindering democraticprocesses.
Awareness and critical thinkingare crucial tools in
recognizing and resisting thesemanipulative tactics.
And then we look at all theunnecessary actions that were
taken in LA and there are stillNational Guards, men and women,
(50:26):
stationed down there all thistime later and they're not doing
anything.
I also spoke with anotherneighbor who was texting with
their grown child this last June24th, who's still currently
deployed in LA with theirNational Guard unit in response
to the so-called riots thatoccurred a week or so ago.
(50:48):
Since no ongoing riots haveoccurred in the media, the White
House and Trump have turnedtheir attention elsewhere and
drummed up a lot more drama,that's for sure.
Meanwhile, the National Guardtroops are still in LA and they
are at the Los Alamitos base inLong Beach and federal orders
are not releasing anyone maybefor another couple of months,
(51:12):
and this individual continued totext their parents saying they
are making people miss vacations, honeymoons, funerals and other
stuff.
For this, they even made peoplefly back from across the
country for this.
I'm telling you this is all partof the gaslighting and
manipulation, and it spills overinto every corner of government
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, and a good example of that isthe gaslighting through the EPA
and NOAA, where they havetransplanted their own yes
people and gutted most of thescientists from these agencies.
This is why we want to be clearabout what is happening to the
environment in this world.
We want to share informationfrom scientists and experts in
(51:57):
their fields.
We recommend that, if you can,to please support those who can
continue to take positiveactions for our environment so
that we can all continue tothrive and survive.
This world belongs to all of us.
To thrive and survive.
This world belongs to all of us.
There are many good people outthere who still invest in
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long-term thinking and oversight, not short-sighted, selfish
actions that could bring aboutour planet's demise.
We do what we can here atResilient Earth Radio and
Podcast to raise awareness aboutthe facts, to break through the
array of disinformation andgaslighting created on a daily
basis with this administration.
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It's important.
It's important and, if you'dlike to support us, we do have a
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Just go to our website atresilientearthradiocom or
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There are a lot oforganizations out there that are
actively doing what they can toprotect the environment.
You can support them too.
I'm Leigh Anne Lindsey.
Thanks for listening.
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This week's episode of ResilientEarth Radio and Podcast is
going to be different from pastepisodes, as we take a look at
the local and national turnoutthat happened during no King's
Day, june 14th 2025, why ithappened and why that is
important for our discussions onthe environment.
(02:03):
This planet is extremelyinterconnected through nature,
the oceans and atmosphere.
What happens in one locationhas the ability to affect the
entire planet.
For example, the wastemanagement practice of
industrial nations, as we'velearned, produces plastics and
debris that washes up on beacheseverywhere.
(02:25):
Oil and chemical spills spreadfar and wide in the ocean.
There's also rising noiselevels in our oceans from
shipping to military activities,offshore drilling and mining.
That could also be increasingsoon, and definitely a big push
(02:48):
by companies around the worldthat are heavily funded to go
after deep sea mining.
We'll be talking about thatissue actually in next week's
episode with our scientificexpert on noises in the ocean
human generated noises in theocean, specifically-generated
noises in the ocean specificallyand that's Michael Stocker,
(03:08):
founder of the OceanConservation Research, located
in Marin County, and then you'llbe hearing that episode next
week.
Now back to this nationwide noKing's Day protest that happened
all across the United Statesback on June 14th.
This was peaceful and I willsay it again, if even a lot of
(03:30):
the media does not focus on this, this peaceful turnout in
cities, large and small, was theright to voice opposition
against political actions thatthe people I'm talking about,
the majority of the people inthis country do not support.
(03:51):
There were over 5 millionpeople that turned out to make
their voices heard that day, andthis is an inalienable right
that the US Constitution allowscitizens to do.
The First Amendment guaranteesthe right to freedom of speech
and assembly, and that isexactly what peaceful protesters
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did all over this country,including me, the producer and
host of this podcast and radioshow, leanne Lindsay, and my
podcast collaborators, scott andTree Mercer.
We are concerned about thechaotic, disruptive and
destructive actions that thiscurrent administration has taken
(04:35):
with, specifically out of allthe other disruptive activities
that they've got going on,specifically with our
environmental agencies, like theEPA rolling back protections
for us that we worked hard overthe years to achieve and NOAA,
the National Oceanic andAtmospheric Administration.
(04:58):
They are responsible for notonly studying climate, but all
the weather patterns that areaffecting our country.
They provide this informationto pilots that fly our
commercial airlines.
They provide it to the CoastGuard.
Well, along with the scientificand educational programs in
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this country and educationalprograms in this country, their
budgets were not only cut andclawed back, but they gutted.
They gutted the agencies of thetop scientists and put in
inexperienced yes people.
This is not the way to runthese organizations.
We believe and it's our rightto say so.
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We believe and it's our rightto say so.
And while this administrationmay think that eliminating the
phrase climate change ongovernmental websites and
replacing these top scientistswith yes, people, then their
heads are filled with wishfulthinking and stuck in that
proverbial sand.
And this is my opinion.
This is my ability to say sothrough this podcast.
(06:07):
This is my show, along withScott and Tree Mercer, resilient
Earth Radio and Podcast.
Today you'll hear a conversationthat I decided to have with my
neighbors here in Sea Ranch.
They had family that came upduring this weekend of the
protests.
It was my neighbor's niece,Wendy White, and her partner,
(06:30):
Sandy Wright a few days after NoKing's Day.
It all started when I met themthe same day of the event, when
we all stopped for pet food atthe local pet store and I said
you know what?
I'd like to get some inputabout the local flavor here,
going down also to the SanFrancisco Bay Area, which is
(06:52):
just south of us, where a lot ofus up here are from.
As a matter of fact, I wantedto get this input from them.
Coming up in just a few minutes, you're going to hear from them
and my conversation with them.
Coming up in just a few minutes, you're going to hear from them
and my conversation with them.
They came here to attend againthe no King's Day protests
Gualala and and Point Arena fromthe Bay Area where they live in
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Fairfield, because Wendy'sfamily has been visiting and
living in this area for the past40 years.
Wendy is the founder of TRYBECreative, which specializes in
food and wine with clients inseveral North San Francisco Bay
counties like Napa, marin andSonoma.
Sandy is a former Englishteacher and theater actor.
(07:36):
They were married a few yearsago and have been together
almost 30 years.
At one point when Wendy'scommenting in this conversation
about the insertion ofuneducated federal
decision-making, that actuallyhappened this past February,
right as the Los Angeles fireswere happening.
(07:56):
It was a decision to, theythought, help fight wildfires.
They bypassed and I'm sayingTrump and his administration,
bypassed those who govern andmanage the state.
They made a ridiculous blunderwhen they decided to release
large amounts of water from theTerminus and Schaefer dams in
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California's Central Valley,which, if you know anything
about that water system, it doesnot even connect with the
Southern California water system.
So here they thought oh, we'lljust do this and make this
sweeping decision and get itdone Again.
The water from the Terminus andSchaefer Dams in California's
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Central Valley is primarily usedfor irrigation in the Central
Valley.
It doesn't flow south to SoCal.
What a waste.
A waste because the water wasreleased during the winter, when
fields are dormant and theirrigation needs were low, and
it depleted valuable waterreserves that could have been
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used for agriculture during thedrier summer months.
There was simply nocoordination by this
administration with state andlocal water managers.
They didn't consider the floodrisks, even for downstream
communities.
This was all politicallymotivated.
This really was politicallymotivated, and that water
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release was primarily apolitical stunt intended to
demonstrate presidentialauthority over California's
water resources.
What a lost opportunity for theenvironment.
Again, these were valuablewater resources that could have
been used for groundwaterrecharge and other environmental
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purposes.
Overall, the February 2025water release by the federal
government from the CentralValley Dams was an extremely
poor decision, with potentiallynegative consequences for water
resources and agriculturalinterests in the region.
We talk about that, but we alsotalk about other irresponsible
and damaging decisions andpolicies this administration is
(10:08):
taking and has taken, and why weall decided to get out and
protest that day.
But again let me stress, we allprotested peacefully.
It was not this big scene downin Los Angeles.
This was not what was beingportrayed in most media After
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that day.
If you look at most of thecontent online and I'm showing
in the visual version of thispodcast photos, images and
videos from around the countryand here locally, showing that
it was all very peaceful and ifyou can see the age of the
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people in these photographs andvideos, most of us are in our
60s, 70s and 80s.
There's even a woman in her 90sin her walker that has a sign
on it that says I'm 95, and I'mstill doing this stuff.
I'm still coming out to protest.
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We all felt it important toparticipate in that nationwide
event that compelled in thatnationwide event that compelled
again over 5 million people toget involved On June 14th 2025,
even people in US territoriesand Americans from around the
world.
I will reiterate again, becausethe media hasn't done the best
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job with following through oncoverage that shows peaceful
protests everywhere.
Before we get into our show, Ijust had to play this Instagram
post with actor and activistMark Ruffalo, who is speaking to
a reporter in New York City.
Sandy Wright (11:55):
Why does this matter?
Why are people out here gettingsoaked in the rain to send a
message?
Mark Ruffalo (12:01):
Because we see our democracies in real trouble.
We see a president who has madehimself a king and dictator and
we don't see an oppositionthat's powerful enough to stand
up against the trampling of ourrights and the trampling of the
Constitution that's happeningevery single day with executive
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orders, with the refusal to obeycourt orders, kidnapping of
immigrants, people who are herelegally, people who their
children are being taken fromthem.
We're disgusted and we'rescared and we know that the only
way to fight this now is forthe people is to come together.
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When a US senator is tackled ina press conference representing
his constituency with aquestion to the homeland
security who has invaded thatstate with a military presence,
you know you're heading towardsdictatorship.
That's a turning point.
You're only going to see moreof that happen.
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That's a turning point.
You're only going to see moreof that happen.
This administration willcontinue to overreach and this
will be the response.
We're not going away, we're notgoing to be quiet.
We love each other and werealize that we love this
country so much that we'releaving our homes today in the
rain to express our friendshipand love for the people here who
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made this place.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (13:34):
And this ability to get out on this day
is our constitutional right, andbringing it down to the
community level is why I decided, while in the pet store that
day, when we all showed uptogether, I asked them to have a
conversation with me abouttheir perspective on that day on
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the local level, from here onour remote coast down to the San
Francisco Bay Area just southof us.
And now we're going to jointhis conversation in progress
that I had with Wendy White, whois the niece of my neighbor
right across the street from mehere in Sea Ranch, laura Riddell
, and also Wendy's partner,sandy Wright.
(14:18):
I'm Leanne Lindsay.
Thanks for listening toResilient Earth Radio.
Wendy White (14:28):
We thought long and hard about how and where we
were going to participate in noKing's Day and we really felt
like Sea Ranch and Malala wouldbe a wonderful place for us to
show our support.
We weren't sure exactly what toexpect and I have to say I was
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very proud to be there.
It was an extraordinary turnoutand I think that we were around
a very large group of smart,like-minded people who really
wanted to have a safe space toshow their support.
I was very impressed.
I was very impressed.
Sandy Wright (15:07):
The turnout was amazing for such a small place
Gualala and and I think theaverage age was mine 65.
Well, I turned 68, but I thinkthe average age was about 65
because there were a lot ofyoung people there too, you know
, wanting to show their supportbut also to protest the policies
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and actions that are happeningright now with our current
president and administration.
Just to be honest, you know wedon't agree with a lot of the
policies, but it was really fun.
We had a great weekend.
We broke out in song at onepoint singing America the
Beautiful and Flying the Flags,because of course, they do this
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every year to celebrate Flag Day.
So it just happened to be onFlag Day that we did all of this
.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (15:57):
The important part is that this was
peaceful.
Most every place was a peacefulturnout, yes, and the numbers
were staggering too in so manyways, especially for, like you
both said, for this remote areaup here it's a small community
and I spoke with one of theorganizers, Michael Thomas, and
(16:21):
he said that probably becausethey were listed on the no Kings
organization's website aturnout of over 500.
Now, 500 for our little area isbig.
Wendy White (16:33):
Wow, that's amazing , that might be half.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (16:37):
Yeah, and that was right here in Gualala.
Then we also had another one inPoint Arena Right, and that
also was well attended.
And what concerns me the mostis how media tends to be
hyper-focused on the agitators,right.
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I really wanted peopleeverywhere to understand, not
only here in this countrycountry, but the other countries
where this podcast is listenedto, in over 65 countries where
they can hear from us, thepeople, that this is not like
that in general, I mean, and ingeneral it was an older crowd
(17:20):
that turned out, yeah, yeah, andthere were comments on Facebook
that I saw that said don't geta job.
But you know what?
Most are retired or, you know,semi-retired.
And I saw one chair with awoman who was sitting there and
said can't believe it, I'm 95.
(17:40):
I still have to come out and dothis.
Wendy White (17:44):
Exactly you do, you do, you do and that I think
Sandy and I we likened it to theneed when we marched for the
Women's March and weparticipated in Oakland, and it
was just that extraordinarycamaraderie that you felt with
the group.
And I'm not typically one whogoes out and speaks my mind I
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usually will do it in theprivacy of my friends and family
but this was really importantand I was so happy that we chose
to do it.
And just afterwards, like thenext day, going through and
seeing nationwide the outpouringof people in every city, every
city, it was amazing.
Sandy Wright (18:30):
Mostly in support of the whole immigration rates
and just the way they werehandled.
Some of these workers have beenwith their farms that they tend
for, you know, 30 plus yearsand families before them, and
really Mexico and California arebuddies, you know.
So we hated to see thetreatment of these people,
(18:54):
especially what the currentevents in Los Angeles, which was
just really a coincidence thatthat all kind of happened at the
same time and from anagricultural standpoint.
Wendy White (19:03):
I mean, we're right next to Napa, my clients are
wine and beverage clients, andso there are generations and
generations and generations ofhistory of agricultural talent
that are working in all facetsof this industry.
Facets of this industry andjust I mean, we have been
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witnessing it at such viciouslevels and it is tearing apart
families, it's tearing apartcommunities and this was just
something I couldn't stand backand just watch happen and not
have a voice for it, and youcouldn't believe the numbers of
people who are Mexicans, thenumbers of people who are
Mexicans, growers, that we'resaying we are trying the process
(19:51):
but our paperwork is being heldup in the government because
they're targeting us.
Sandy Wright (20:00):
We feel like we're being targeted, it just our
process gets stalled time aftertime after time, so that they're
trying, you know, to do theright thing, and so to just
target people is not appropriate.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (20:12):
Yes, we hear this from all across because
all of our counties here,starting with Napa, but Sonoma
County, mendocino County and upto Humboldt this is vineyard
agricultural country walnuttrees, almond trees, and a lot
of the workers who do this workcome in to do this.
(20:34):
During certain times of theyear they do the harvest and I
know personally because we have22 acres of Cabernet on our
ranch and we have orchards andwe hire in a crew that comes in
specifically to do this.
And then you heard Trump comeout and say well, maybe we won't
do it against the farm workers.
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You know it's like do you notstop to think about this?
And this is our right to beable to get out there and to
protest, and we did sopeacefully, right?
And there's so many problemsand so many fronts.
It's the immigration issue,it's the way that they're
treating people, it is the waythat they've taken out, or Trump
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has executive orders to try tochange everything you know.
Sandy Wright (21:23):
it's interesting.
You talk to younger women.
We've been focused on those ofus who've been through many of
these kinds of things in ourlives disagreements with
administration and governmentbut you talk to the young people
and you know young girls inparticular concerned about the
reverse of Roe versus Wade andthe women march Wendy mentioned
(21:44):
it was also millions of womenmarching to say hold on
government.
Whether you believe in abortionor not, abortion is really not
the point.
If a woman is in trouble andneeds to be treated, she
shouldn't die on the table orhave to search out some horrible
(22:04):
, horrific operation.
It's time that these youngpeople speak up, and they are
now.
They're coming out in droves tosay you know, it seems wrong
that government should tellwomen, you know what they can or
can't do with their bodies.
You know that's kind of creepy.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (22:23):
And telling also people how to live their
lives and who they should livetheir lives with or who they
should be.
You know that's every person'shuman right to choose, and and I
think the two of you couldspeak to that part as well- well
, yeah, definitely to the wholemarriage thing.
Sandy Wright (22:42):
We wanted to, then we didn't because we thought we
weren't supposed to and weweren't covered.
And so how long do you have tolove somebody to prove that you
should be together?
Wendy White (22:52):
Right, yeah, I don't know many, many of my my
friends who have been couplesfor decades.
They always have in the back oftheir mind that they've gone
through the process and it willbe stripped away from them.
So some of us do.
You know the legal duediligence to make sure that as a
couple, that we are covered incertain ways.
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But we just know a lot of thepomp and circumstance that our
male and female friend couples.
There may be things that wejust can't enjoy at that level,
but we take every advantage thatwe can on a daily basis and
hope that maybe, maybe, maybewe'll get lucky and things don't
get taken away.
But I do want to circle back onone thing you were saying, back
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kind of to the agriculturalaspect of it.
I mean, we as a as California asa whole and I know we're a
little bit of a special anomalysometimes because of how much
business and industry we havewithin our state but I do know
that when the executive orders,as you mentioned, were flying
off the shelf, we saw a what wethought was a helping gesture
(23:57):
where waters were released fromdams that were water storage
units down in the lower SouthernCal area and it ended up
becoming a huge disaster,because our state knows when
those levees are released tohelp with the fields and
different agricultural crops,and the big deluge of water that
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was let out was dissolved andlost and that was seen as a
gesture of thinking he had doneall the right things without
talking to anybody and madethese swift moves without
understanding the local politicsmake their own decisions, and
then what we're seeing latelyare big executive swoops that
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are now putting the governmentback into our space at levels
that don't make any sense.
Sandy Wright (24:54):
We should support our governor and the president
should support his governors.
These are leading managers ofCalifornia.
We provide $3 trillion tofederal income tax every year.
Wendy White (25:11):
The fifth largest economic in the world.
Sandy Wright (25:13):
Even the smallest state should be respected.
But you know what I mean.
It's like what are you doing?
Leigh Anne Lindsey (25:18):
I want to go back to not understanding the
issue and going in like with abulldozer and just plowing right
through, which he did, withorganizations all across the
board educational institutions,gutting their grants and funding
, and also NOAA, the NationalOceanic Atmospheric
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Administration.
They're the ones who tell uswhen hurricanes are coming,
tornadoes and the weather and,oh, they supply that information
to our airlines and to ourcoast guard.
This is something that, withignorance, coming in and gutting
those people, they took all thetop scientists, they that have
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been there for decades, rightand they understand these
processes.
They understand what needs toget done.
Now, like one of thesupervisors who was also let go,
whom I knew that was in chargeof both the Greater Fairlawn,
cordell Bank, she had said theycame in to take the first 20%
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and they didn't even ask her togo after the lowest performing.
They just came in and took ourtop scientists right off the top
.
Sandy Wright (26:32):
Right and I failed to mention that I'm an educator
.
Yeah, it's embarrassing to methat I'm teaching the opposite
of what my government isobviously modeling, of what my
government is obviously modeling.
I'm trying to teach these kidsabout protecting our environment
and doing the right things andthen they're seeing, possibly
(26:54):
their parents supporting thisman who is creating chaos and
fear.
You know, literally I'm afraidto get into an airplane because
the FAA has been affected bythis, and there was someone in
his administration I can'tremember the name but in
response to it said well, youknow, the pilots can look out
the window.
I thought so.
(27:18):
Now we're not supposed to usecomputers.
You know what is the problemhere?
Leigh Anne Lindsey (27:23):
And I'm a former private pilot and I'll
tell you right now you need tohave that radar.
Yeah, you do Right.
Wendy White (27:30):
Yeah, you do.
So I really hope that and I doknow that we have so much more
work to do we need to take alittle bit broader ownership on
connecting to therepresentatives that we have
elected into their positions andmake sure that they are
advocating for us.
(27:50):
It does start from the groundup and I think sometimes, like
myself, in so many years, I justdidn't have a vehicle or I
didn't understand the direction.
But I'm finding in thesesmaller towns that I'm connected
with all over the Bay Area,that there are incredible groups
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that are doing incredible workto help navigate, to help get to
your representatives, to have avoice, and I think so many of
us speak to.
I just can't make a differencein the world right now.
Well, you can, you can and in,in, in, in incremental ways, if
there's just if all of us justdo one thing a day to make this
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world a better place, to put itin a position where where good
things happen.
It's amazing.
We saw it.
We saw it this weekend.
Yeah, that's.
I mean, those were.
Those were numbers.
There were over 5 million atsome point, where they were
saying between 3.5 million and 5million people participated
across the nation.
Sandy Wright (28:50):
Extraordinary.
Yeah, I read this too that wewere the envy of the world
economically.
You know we were being praisedfor what we were doing in
America and just in 100 plusshort days you know what
happened People are now, I'mhearing, don't travel to America
right now.
And it's like what happened.
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His style is to just sweep andbrush and that's extremely
dangerous, in my opinion.
Wendy White (29:22):
Yeah.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (29:23):
And I'm seeing pity messages coming from
all countries online on socialmedia.
It's really disheartening, butat the same time, like you said,
we can do.
What we can do and that's oneof the things that we're doing
with this podcast is trying toraise the awareness that there
are these critical issues, butthere are people who are taking
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positive action and the peoplewho are out on that day and who
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back to that kindness to ourneighbors, to one another.
Sandy Wright (30:13):
I don't know how many people from the military
just in Wallala but all over theplace came out to speak in
support and were there insupport members of the military
and were there in supportmembers of the military.
And I wonder how they feel.
And I just wanted to asksomebody how do you feel about
(30:34):
this recent event where theMarines were asked to come into
Los Angeles and make a presence?
Whatever reason they were there, they're not trained to be
police enforcement.
They are trained to be policeenforcement.
They are trained to be incombat.
So having their presence therewas kind of vicious, you know,
and I think there's members ofthe military that not only agree
(30:56):
but are embarrassed.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (30:58):
That's what I heard as well from I have a
number of military friends, butit's the action of pushing
through like a bulldozer againand when there's no thought in
advance that but this again ispart of their plan to create
chaos and chaos for whateverreason.
(31:20):
The other side feels like thisis a great tool and that things
need to be remade.
I was in the tech industrywhere disruption was the key,
but in societies, in business,it's not human, no, and you need
stability.
You need to be able to forecast, you need to be able to expect
(31:41):
and depend on certain things.
You need that stability, andthat's where they are disrupting
that balance in this country.
So we can do what we can withour voice, right With contacting
our representatives, by voting,by spreading awareness wherever
we can and participating inacts of ways that we can help,
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like you were just saying.
So, last comment that you guyswould like to say while we get
this chance to talk to peopleabout coming from us, for the
Americans that do not want thiscurrent administration to
continue acting out, what wouldyou both like to finish with
saying?
Sandy Wright (32:25):
I personally love the idea a friend of mine just
mentioned at the other daywriting to each and every single
one of the Supreme Court judges, because if we're not on the
side of the law, our lettersneed to be very specific.
There's a felon in the WhiteHouse, you know.
I mean they're breaking the lawand getting away with it and
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our judges are who we rely on.
Our judicial branch is a strongand should be respected branch
of the government, not just theexecutive branch you know, and
so I urge people to.
it's what 12 letters write them.
Wendy White (33:08):
I think for me, if I was sitting across the table
from someone that and I havethem in my family and friends
and I plead with them tounderstand that not everyone has
the same opportunities that tounderstand that sometimes
decisions can have devastatingeffects, and if they choose to
(33:32):
make decisions in this world, toreally understand, read, pay
attention to what the action isgoing, what the outcome is going
to be based on a decision.
And I feel like sometimespeople think that everybody has
the same opportunity in thisworld.
Not everybody comes fromprivilege, not everyone comes
(33:55):
from money, not everyone comesfrom, but I think we all come
from a human desire to succeedand so everybody's path is not
the same.
So I just would say make surethat you understand both sides
of the table.
I'm okay with having someonedisagree with me In fact, it
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makes me ask more questionsabout why and I want to make
sure that my decisions are basedon a complete understanding,
and so I just ask the other sideto have that equal compassion
and have a conversation.
I'm willing to talk to anyone.
I want to learn, I want tounderstand.
I just think that we need to,like you said earlier, let's
bring the temperature down andrealize that we're all human and
(34:41):
we all want to live a wonderfullife, and being kind is going
to be the way to start thatprocess.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (34:49):
Really well put.
Thank you for that, Wendy andSandy.
I appreciate that both of youcoming on and talking with me
today about this.
Wendy White (34:57):
We appreciate you chatting with us this morning
and again sending you tons ofsupport and, however, we can
continue to help.
Leigh Anne Lindsey (35:04):
All right.
Well, you guys have a great day.
I know you're going to have abusy one too.
There's an excellent article inthe Independent Coast Observer,
written by Chelsea Randall,regarding this event.
It's entitled Over 500 AttendRallies Marked by Patrioticotic
calls to action.
(35:25):
In this article she writes thatcoordinated rallies for no
Kings and Flag Day held on June14th in Wallala and Point Arena
drew more than 500 participantsand featured impassioned
speeches.
Over 300 protesters gatheredoutside the Wallala Hotel at 10
am on Saturday, marching andchanting for nearly two hours.
(35:49):
They held signs, waved hundredsof American flags distributed
by we Are Democracy volunteersand joined in a heartfelt
rendition of this Land is yourLand.
The rallies continued in PointArena at noon, where more than
200 people lined Main Street.
A sea of red, white and blueflags and echoes of no hate, no
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fear, everyone is welcome hereset a unifying tone.
Local voices met the momentwith speeches highlighting the
need to be civically engaged,while remembering what the flag
truly stands for no justice, nopeace.
Michael Bone, daddy Thomasrepeated that throughout his
(36:36):
speech in Wallala.
Thomas, a coastal resident for50 years, said he attended his
first protest at age 16.
He quoted two of his personalheroes Abraham Lincoln and
Martin Luther King Jr to remindthe crowd to stand up against
injustice.
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Before leading the Pledge ofAllegiance, thomas spoke about
the flag, its design and itsmeaning.
The flag its design and itsmeaning Our flag is a powerful
symbol of patriotism andnational unity, representing the
shared values and ideals of ournation.
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Thomas said Brian Flynn sworeto uphold these values when he
enlisted in the US Navy at 21.
As a submariner, he learned thathis service meant preserving
freedom, protecting his countryand, most importantly, he said,
supporting and defending theConstitution.
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This is what it's about.
Flynn said, holding up a copyof the document.
About.
Flynn said holding up a copy ofthe document.
This is what we're all doingright now defending the
Constitution.
This is the law of our land andthat is part of the excellent
(37:59):
article written by ChelseaRandall in the Independent Coast
Observer on June 20, 2025.
I'll conclude with this we dohave resilience, each and every
one of us.
We can rebound, no matter howmuch they want to put us down.
There's an interesting model ofthis.
(38:20):
Where I live, by the ocean,this model of resilience.
My home is surrounded byredwoods and their resilience is
notable.
There are numerous hollowed-outor burnt stumps which years ago
had either been struck bylightning, survived a fire or
were cut down by human hands.
(38:41):
Yet new life sprouts up allaround them, on top of them, on
their sides, in the form offerns, huckleberry bushes,
mosses, redwood, sorrel, salalrhododendron, other woodland
perennials and native plants,including new redwoods and even
(39:03):
other types of trees, whichsprout from redwood stumps,
doesn't matter how blackenedthey were by fire or lightning
strikes.
In most cases, new redwoodsprout and grow in circles
around the stumps, which manycall fairy rings.
The vision of these isinspirational and I'm sharing a
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number of those photos in thevisual version that you will
find on YouTube coming up thisweekend.
Those of us who live and wereborn in the United States, who
do not agree to the changes bythis administration that are
harmful to the environment,harmful to the climate and not
protecting living nature for itsservices to all humankind as we
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heard Ralph Chalmy and otherson this podcast previously
discuss Nurture nature andnature nurtures us, something
Richard Charter of the OceanFoundation mentioned in one of
the last episodes Indigenousaround the world know this
inherently, which brings me tomy next topic.
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What does it mean, by the way,to mark up a bill?
Well, it means for alegislative committee to
formally review, amend and vote.
It's a key step in thelegislative process, where
committee members debate billsand offer and vote on proposed
changes amendments, in otherwords and ultimately decide
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whether to recommend the bill tothe full chamber for further
consideration.
The reason I bring this up isbecause what's happening right
now on 20 bills in the House ofNatural Resources, in the
committee there, they met onJune 25th to participate in a
markup on those 20 bills, whichinclude two bills that would
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undermine national marinesanctuaries.
Let me say that again, there aretwo bills that would undermine
our national marine sanctuariesand they are HR 2556 by
Republican representative fromTexas Hunt, comprehensive
(41:21):
Offshore Resource EnhancementAct of 2025, also called CORE
C-O-R-E.
Also called CORE C-O-R-E.
The CORE Act would allow forseismic blasting and other oil
and gas exploration activitiesto be conducted across our
entire outer continental shelf,including in our national marine
(41:44):
sanctuaries, including in thosenational marine sanctuaries
which have been proving to besuccessful over the past 20
years of work there, and theseactivities lay the foundations
for future oil and gasdevelopment and other extractive
uses.
And we've got example afterexample after example of oil
(42:07):
spills and disasters that happenbecause of human error and
technology's not always perfect.
Equipment's not always perfect.
Okay, so now to the next bill.
There's HR 261, brought to thefloor by Republican from Georgia
, representative Carter,undersea Cable Protection Act of
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2025, which attempts to amendthe National Marine Sanctuary
Act to permanently eliminateNOAA's authority to authorize or
reject permits for theinstallation, operation,
maintenance, repair or recoveryof undersea fiber optic cables
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in a National Marine Sanctuaryif such activities have
previously been authorized by afederal or state agency.
In summary, the House NaturalResources Committee is currently
marking up several bills, whichinclude HR 2556 and HR 261.
These bills aim to increaseoffshore energy exploration and
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to propel the permits forundersea cables, raising serious
concerns about negative impactsto these fragile ecosystems
that are living and thriving innational marine sanctuaries.
It is for these reasons, andmany others, that we got out us
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older senior people to protestthat day, on no Kings Day.
There are too many actions thatare being taken single-handedly,
bulldozing forward without anyconsideration of the damage
they're causing, and we did itpeacefully, and you will notice
that there are so many phrasesthat the other side uses to
(44:08):
manipulate and gaslight theinformation, and I would like to
touch on that in just a moment.
I want to say one more thingthat, coming up, we're going to
also have a report by CaptainPaul Watson, who attended and
spoke at UNOC, which was the UNOcean Conference held in Nice,
(44:30):
france, recently.
He wrote that 60 nations weresecured to ratify the High Seas
Treaty.
We want to talk to him aboutthat.
He says it will give additionalauthority and solid legal
defense for interventionsagainst illegal activities like
whaling, fishing, turtlepoaching, shark finning, but
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also against environmentalthreats like deep sea mining,
plastic debris and otherunlawful activities.
The High Seas Treaty joins theUnited Nations World Charter for
Nature as an importantenforcement tool.
Hundreds of ocean supportersfrom around the globe, including
civil society organizations,ngos, academic institutions, the
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scientific community, theprivate sector, philanthropic
organizations and indigenouspeoples, all came together to
discuss the challenges andopportunities for implementing
their goals.
Here are a few of the outcomeswe heard about from the
International Ocean FilmFestival update that, regarding
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marine protected areas, frenchPolynesia announced it will
create the world's largestmarine protected area.
Hooray for them.
As for the High Seas Treaty.
By the conclusion of theconference, the treaty had 136
signatories.
Those ratifying the treatyincluded island states such as
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Antigua, barbados, belize, cubaand Dominica, and the European
Union, some of its members,including France, portugal and
Spain, other nations such asChile, norway and South Korea.
You can learn more about thesignatories and other parties on
the UN website.
When deep sea mining wasdiscussed, world leaders
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continued to call for amoratorium.
There's more that came out ofthe UN Ocean Conference and that
will be coming up in a coupleof weeks with Captain Paul
Watson.
Back to the no Kings Dayprotest, just to conclude, it
was again estimated that morethan 5 million people
participated in 2,100 cities andtowns, including the flagship
(46:41):
event in Philadelphia.
Protests that also took placein US territories and foreign
countries.
Days later, what happens?
But this administration dropsbombs and fired missiles at Iran
.
I'm Leigh Anne Lindsey and, inmy opinion, distraction is the
name of the game that Trump andhis enablers are using to gain
more power, influence and incomeand to take the heat off their
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reckless changes to thiscountry's infrastructure.
Divide, distract, discourage,dissuade, according to new
psychology research by Eric WDolan that was released this
past May.
He wrote that politicaldiscussions in 2025 are still
grappling with issues ofnarcissistic mirroring,
manipulation and gaslighting,often linked to authoritarian
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tendencies and their impact ondemocratic processes.
And they keep using that phrasethe deep state to put fear in
people's minds.
They use that fear tactic.
And so what can we do?
It is crucial for credible newsorganizations, public officials
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and engaged citizens tocollaborate in sharing accurate
information and exposing theseharmful methods.
It's why I'm doing this podcastright now.
It's why I'm focused on thistoday.
I was very encouraged by the noKings Day turnout, but I'll
continue.
The second thing that we can doare community initiatives that
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can include supporting honestpolitical candidates, promoting
media literacy and having opendiscussions to challenge
manipulated narratives.
I'll say that again Opendiscussions to challenge
manipulated narratives.
Remain informed about politicaldevelopments and resist the
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temptation to become disengaged.
It's easy to do, I know, butit's essential in safeguarding
democratic institutions.
Be aware of inconsistencies.
Pay attention to whether apolitician's words align with
their actions or their paststatements.
This is a good one when itcomes to Trump.
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In specific Fact.
Check information.
Don't automatically acceptstatements as true, even from
those in positions of power.
Verify information fromreliable sources.
Trust your instincts.
Information from reliablesources.
Trust your instincts.
If something feels off or makesyou question your own judgment,
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it may be a sign of gaslighting.
Consider the source.
Be critical of information fromsources that seem overly biased
or designed to provoke a strongemotional response.
They want to provoke that fearor anger response.
Don't let them Look forpatterns.
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Pay attention to repeatedinstances of denial, blame
shifting or attempts to rewritehistory.
In conclusion, narcissisticmirroring and gaslighting are
serious concerns in thepolitical sphere.
That's eroding public trust allacross our country and
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potentially hindering democraticprocesses.
Awareness and critical thinkingare crucial tools in
recognizing and resisting thesemanipulative tactics.
And then we look at all theunnecessary actions that were
taken in LA and there are stillNational Guards, men and women,
(50:26):
stationed down there all thistime later and they're not doing
anything.
I also spoke with anotherneighbor who was texting with
their grown child this last June24th, who's still currently
deployed in LA with theirNational Guard unit in response
to the so-called riots thatoccurred a week or so ago.
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Since no ongoing riots haveoccurred in the media, the White
House and Trump have turnedtheir attention elsewhere and
drummed up a lot more drama,that's for sure.
Meanwhile, the National Guardtroops are still in LA and they
are at the Los Alamitos base inLong Beach and federal orders
are not releasing anyone maybefor another couple of months,
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and this individual continued totext their parents saying they
are making people miss vacations, honeymoons, funerals and other
stuff.
For this, they even made peoplefly back from across the
country for this.
I'm telling you this is all partof the gaslighting and
manipulation, and it spills overinto every corner of government
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, and a good example of that isthe gaslighting through the EPA
and NOAA, where they havetransplanted their own yes
people and gutted most of thescientists from these agencies.
This is why we want to be clearabout what is happening to the
environment in this world.
We want to share informationfrom scientists and experts in
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their fields.
We recommend that, if you can,to please support those who can
continue to take positiveactions for our environment so
that we can all continue tothrive and survive.
This world belongs to all of us.
To thrive and survive.
This world belongs to all of us.
There are many good people outthere who still invest in
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long-term thinking and oversight, not short-sighted, selfish
actions that could bring aboutour planet's demise.
We do what we can here atResilient Earth Radio and
Podcast to raise awareness aboutthe facts, to break through the
array of disinformation andgaslighting created on a daily
basis with this administration.
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It's important.
It's important and, if you'dlike to support us, we do have a
501c3 nonprofit, planet-centricmedia that you can make a
donation to.
Just go to our website atresilientearthradiocom or
through planetcentricmediacom.
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There are a lot oforganizations out there that are
actively doing what they can toprotect the environment.
You can support them too.
I'm Leigh Anne Lindsey.
Thanks for listening.
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Thanks for listening to theResilient Earth podcast, where
we talk about critical issuesand positive actions for our
planet.
Resilient Earth is produced byPlanet Centric Media, a 501c3
nonprofit, and Sea Storm StudiosInc.
Located on the rugged NorthSonoma Coast of Northern
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California.
I'm Leigh Anne Lindsey,producer and host, along with
co-hosts and co-producers Scottand Tree Mercer of the
Mendonoma Whale and Seal Study,located on the South Mendocino
and North Sonoma coasts.
The music for this podcast isby Eric Allaman, an
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international composer, pianistand writer living in the Sea
Ranch.
Discover more of his music,animations, ballet, stage and
film work at EricAllaman.
com.
You can find Resilient Earth onSpotify, Apple and Amazon
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Podcasts, iHeartRadio, YouTube,Soundcloud and wherever you find
your podcasts.
Please support us bysubscribing or donating to our
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