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In Episode 19, A chance encounter with a passenger carrying golf clubs through the streets of downtown DC leads to a fascinating exploration of golf's addictive appeal, the mental game, prestigious courses of Scotland and 7-11 egg salad sandwiches in Japan. 運転しましょう!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to another episode of Rideshare Road Talk
Conversations in Motion, apodcast where we create
unfiltered talk space thatexamines the meaningful lives of
my passengers while engaging inpersonal and topical
discussions.
I'm your host and driver, JohnFondas, and we're cruising the
streets of Washington DC.
Buckle up, let's drive, let'stalk golf.
(00:36):
How are you Good?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you?
I'm good, I'm good.
All right, tell me the story.
The story, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You're carrying around clubs in DC.
I'm good, all right, tell methe story.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The story yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You're carrying around clubs in DC.
There's no golf course righthere.
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This right here is City Swing.
Okay, it is like an indoordriving range.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, apparently there is golf in the city.
Wow, before we go any further,I do this for a podcast.
Oh okay, would you like to beon it?
We talk about DC.
We talk about anything?
Oh sure, and if you want alittle QR code to see what it is
before you say yes, it's up toyou.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That's okay, Okay cool.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
There's no names, no video, it's just conversations.
Great, that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm a huge golfer, huge, awesome, it's my passion
it's my thing has been since Iwas 15.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, fortunate enough, I've been to Scotland
twice nice old course.
Shot 79 in the old course.
Nice like shoot me in the face,my life's complete, that kind
of thing right the dream yeahright, tell me about where I
just picked you up.
What is going on in that place?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
so that is city swing .
It's an indoor um like golfsimulator and I just started
doing lessons there um, I'm notvery good right now, but they
are very helpful um yeah okay,bear with me one second.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm trying not to get confused by the navigation,
which is ridiculous and why Iwant to listen to you.
I had no idea that was there.
Like the facility like fullswing, like can you hit driver
in there, yeah.
Or like like how deep is thebay that you hit into?
It's like, or is it a simulator?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's a simulator.
Oh God damn it.
Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
See, I thought it was like this big like.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, indoor.
No, it's a simulator.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right.
Well, that's still cool though.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, they have that one.
And then, down by where you'retaking me, their X-Golf just
opened.
Okay, similar.
So that's another simulator,similar dude.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, Okay.
Well, you do have like HaynesPoint with the course down there
and I know there's a range downthere.
Yes, Langston is there.
It's a little dicey but there'sa good cheeseburger in the
clubhouse there, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
At least there used to be.
That's good to know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But you might get your club stolen too, oh well,
there's that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's a trade-off, you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, this was like years and years ago.
The joke was like I think itwas on the 7th or the 8th tee
box.
You would get held up atgunpoint all the time.
Yeah, so you're just startingto play.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I'm just starting to play.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay, you know this already probably, but in case
you don't, it's the greatestgame ever played.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm learning Ever Quickly, learning that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm a football guy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Baseball guy Hockey, I get it, I get it all.
Golf bar none.
It's the greatest game everplayed.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's hard.
Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, but you know what the drug is and I don't
know if you've hit that yet.
Yeah, is that it takes hundredthings all sinking at once to
hit that shot perfectly.
Yep, and you know what?
Do you know what that?
Shot feels like okay, yeah,I've had it like twice, that's
the drug perfection isunattainable right, so you will
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chase that the rest of your lifeum it is funny.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I'm like, why can't I just do that again, like I just
did it like and when you do itit's like effortless it's like,
like this thing in the universeopens up, you're like, oh my God
, it went forever and it didn'tfeel like anything.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah Right, that's great, that's very cool.
What's also cool is this orangechair over here with the person
doing these weird 360s in thechair.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh, I can't see him.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know what's going on over there.
That's really cool.
What's?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
that, oh, that's.
It's like a smitting top.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's like if you're trying to throw up and not enjoy
your evening.
That sounds like a good start.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
What is that in front of?
Is that a bar?
Yeah, it's like a bar, oh soyou're drunk and in the spinning
top With a spinny chair, nice.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, I have questions about that.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, the golf thing.
My oldest kid is now 19.
I had him started when he waslike eight.
Yeah, and he was a littlephenom Like he was a good
athlete, got recruited to playfootball in college a little bit
, oh, wow, Okay, and he had towork for those things.
Golf was natural, but he didn'tcare about it.
(05:15):
Oh, he was like baseball fine,cool football.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Like dude.
You don't understand.
There's grown men that can't dowhat you're doing Like you're,
so good at this.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, like I could stack him up at age like 12 and
tell him to hit a draw or a flopshot with a wedge and he would
just do it Dang.
And I'm like dude, there'sgrown men that can't do that.
You're like 12.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Do you think he'd get back into it or he's not into?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
it.
No, I think the seed wasplanted enough where he
understands how important of alife skill it can be.
Oh, for, sure I like didn'trealize, and that's just one of
the components that you'vealready figured out.
It opens up doors fornetworking, for work, and then
oh, by the way, every great golfresort on the planet has an
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incredible hotel, wonderful spaand restaurants, and it's like
okay yeah, we visited um gleneagles oh yeah, earlier of
course in.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think it was january.
Yeah, in january so you've been.
That's awesome yeah, and whatwas funny, that's where I took
like my first golf lesson there,because I was like, if I don't
like it in Scotland, I'm notgoing to like it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know, let's just cut out the fat and get right to
the red meat.
Let's just learn golf inScotland.
Good for you, man.
That's great.
That's great.
Where's home for you originally?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Maryland?
Oh okay, yeah, me too.
Yeah, that's great.
Where's home for you?
Originally Maryland?
Oh okay, yeah, me too.
Yeah, so I didn't make it toofar.
Yeah, me too.
Where in?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Maryland.
I grew up in Rockville, oh okay, but I've lived in, like Ashton
Sandy Spring area for most ofmy adult life.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Gosh.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I grew up in Hartford County.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh.
So pretty far I know, that islike upper Chesapeake Bay kind
of sort of yeah, yeah, likebasically Pennsylvania.
Yeah, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's cool.
Um, you know, sadly, I normallywill play year round.
If there's no snow cover andit's 30 degrees and no wind,
I'll go walk and I'll play.
Oh wow, and just you know your,the body heat keeps you warm.
But for whatever reason, maybemy head wasn't on straight, but
I didn't pick up a club fromlike right before Christmas
(07:23):
until like just last week.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Oh, wow.
Were you like itching for it,though you were like I need to
get back out, or not really I'msuch a creature of habit.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I can't do more than one thing obsessively at a time.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So if I've got like some work stuff going on, I okay
.
So if I've got like some workstuff going on, I'm grinding
right.
Or if I go fishing, that's mything for three weeks and
nothing else in the worldmatters.
That's fair.
And then when golf happens,then you know it happens yeah um
, but it's so funny.
I went with my youngest to thedriving range and I told a buddy
(07:56):
of mine the story.
I've got a wicked good shortgame just ridiculous to the
point where it's just it's likechess for me.
Like I know, I can get anywherenear the green in regulation,
wow, and my short game is sorefined that I know I'm gonna
get up and down and convert atleast 50% of the time.
Yeah, that's an 85 withoutblinking.
So throw in a birdie or two, acouple extra streaky holes.
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There's a 79 there.
So, anyways, I go to the range.
I'm 56.
I'm fat, I'm out of shape.
I used to be flexible.
I'm not anymore.
I go crack a joint or two, hitfive wedges and on the fifth one
I kind of feathered one intoabout two feet from 130 yards
(08:43):
away.
I was like you know what?
I'm going home.
I left the bucket and I justwent home because I know it's
there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, like why corrupt it Just go.
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I hope you get to that point.
I hope so too, where you canhit five shots and just leave
yeah, that would be, that wouldbe nice yeah, yeah, your folks
still uh in that part ofmaryland they are.
Do they play golf too?
My dad does um what do youthink about your adventures?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
he.
I haven't told him yet which iscrazy.
I should tell him you should,um, but yeah, it's just like so
new that I haven't got to talkabout it, but I'm sure he'll be
excited.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, he like goes through phases, though where
he's like I like golf, I hategolf Like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Everyone has it.
Right, Everyone has it.
It is a love hate thing.
I mean anyone that plays golffor any considerable amount of
time has the same narrative,where you go out and just
nothing is working.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You're spraying it, you're stroking off the tee,
you're just piling up.
Big numbers are happeningeverywhere.
Yeah, and it's like divineintervention last hole, last
somewhere, there's always thatone shot.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's what my friend was telling me that you just
capture, that keeps you comingback.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, there's always one thing at the most unlikely
time, and it's probably becauseyou're so frustrated, you
surrender and then from thereit's like your muscle memory
just takes over.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right, that's the point I'm trying to get to now,
I think, where I'm notoverthinking because there's so
much to try and remember yeahthat I just like do the
individual movements enough thattheir muscle memory are you
committed to the process likeare you geeked out about it yet?
I'm pretty I wasn't.
And then I think, like thisweek I started like watching the
(10:36):
videos and being like what aresome drills I can do at home?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And so now I'm like Maybe you're walking through DC?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, exactly, With my clubs.
You know what a stupid questionon my part.
You should be like, hey,asshole, I'm walking around DC
with these clubs.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I haven't taken them on the Metro, though that's my
line.
Yeah, yeah, I haven't takenthem on the Metro, though that's
my line.
I was like I need to take theride share.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's so funny.
There are a few books actually,and everyone's got an opinion.
I'm not going to tell youanything about how to swing.
One is called Harvey Panik'sLittle Red Book.
It is literally the Bible.
It is antiquated, it issimplistic in its form and
(11:21):
that's the beauty of it.
Walk or run Do not walk to getthis book.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
The second book is called Zen Golf Okay, by Dr
Joseph Parent.
I believe his name is Big likepsych guru guy for a lot of the
guys on tour or things like that.
Oh interesting.
He presents the mental side ofthe game in such a way that it's
so easily absorbable.
(11:49):
And when you talked about focusis why it struck me.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It changes the focus and the scope to not be focusing
on the ball or the cup, but thefocus on the whole scope of the
horizon in front of you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And what that does?
You take everything in and letsyou kind of kind of absorb and
kind of just balance yourselfout and all of a sudden you're
free swinging and it's just.
It's a spectacular exercise inthe mental approach to the game
All right.
So anyways, and there are quickreads too.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, I'll check those out.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's something just to keep on a coffee table too,
or an end table randomly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's cool.
I always get excited when Imeet a young person that's just
taking up golf.
That's cool.
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Thank you, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You're gonna have some challenges finding places
to play that are convenient.
That, yeah, I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Is what I am finding now.
The simulators are expensiveand I'd rather be on a course.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And look, golf is expensive now too.
Right, it's almost to the pointnow where you're, where you're
better off, not you, just ingeneral.
Yeah, joining a private club,you know.
Uh, initiation fee aside, butlike round for round, if I play
four to six times a week, oh,wow it's the same, I'm sorry,
not a, not a week a month.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh, okay, I was like a week, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I have no time the pro.
Four to six times a month.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And then you know your couple of range sessions,
yada, yada, you're spending moreon public golf.
Now there's plenty of places,at least in suburban Maryland,
where you can get a midweekmembership for probably the dues
are probably you know four orfive hundred a month.
Yeah, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, if you play that much one day maybe yeah that's
how much I feel like I have toplay to like get better.
Like I can't just like go to alesson once a week and get
better.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, hey look, you need the foundation right, and
lessons are great, but justremember, you know, one teacher
isn't a panacea to the game.
Everyone's full of shit intheir own way.
Some people communicate betterthan others.
So, you know, enjoy the process, but don't be afraid, once you
have the foundation, to put thework in yourself Right and and
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find your way that way,especially with the short game,
because that's all feel anyways.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, did you play anywhere else when you were in
Scotland, or what else were youdoing there?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
No, that's all we did .
We were just there for like aweekend to kind of get out of DC
.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Wait, you went to Scotland for the weekend, well,
not the weekend.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Like a four-day long weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The flight almost killed me.
I went for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, we went to London and then Scotland.
Okay, cool and the flight's nottoo bad.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, it's not.
We did the the Iceland route,which was a nice little yeah, we
didn't before to get to Germanyyeah, we didn't stay over, but
it was just nice, because it'slike five hours and you kind of
stretch and then you're fromthere, it's like two and change.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I just got back from Japan actually, and that's all
my list.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, like, literally, like I'm gonna go in the fall, I
think oh, please, yeah, youreally really should like my
fascination with that culture isridiculous and it's not like
you're Stereotypical, like guybullshit, like samurai swords
and crap right.
Like I'm fascinated by like thecommunal culture, the way the,
the elderly are kind of revered,and then the food scene and all
(15:38):
that.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
All of it, all of it is so good and they're like in
the future so much with so manythings, but like also still in
the past with so many things.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right Like from my research, kyoto is probably a
good example of that right.
Where it's all like the oldtemples mixed with the modern.
Yes, yeah.
Or a good example of that rightwhen it's all like the old
temples mixed with the modern,yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Or, like you know, they have in the train stations
a bento box where you can pull astring and it heats up, Like
you don't have to put it inanything, it just heats up by
itself.
But like they give you a papertrain ticket and if you lose
that paper train ticket you'reout of luck.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it's just like very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, what is this about the 7-Eleven egg salad
sandwich that I keep hearingabout?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh, my gosh, so good Is that really a.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, in every 7-Eleven.
And then you get the they havelike chicken, like cutlets that
are heated, and you open up theegg sandwich and put the chicken
inside and eat that and it isso good.
I think we probably had atleast one meal a day from
7-Eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
God, just because it's so convenient.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
But here's the thing I don't understand the supply
chain.
No one in their right freakingmind would eat an egg salad here
in a 7-Eleven.
Yeah, you've got to be insane,but there it's like people
travel thousands of miles to eatsushi, like they had fish, like
all that.
I don't think I would want toleave.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I don't think that was my problem as well and I was
worried because we went forthree weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We did like a perfect , south korea, japan, like kind
of double thing.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay, I was like, oh, that's way too long, I'm going
to want to come home.
I did not feel like I wanted tocome home.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You had wanderlust.
Yeah yeah, that's cool.
That's cool.
I should have done it when Iwas younger, but maybe it's
better now that I'm moreappreciative of what it is I'm
seeing and doing.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I think any timeis good.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What I need to dial into is there's got to be like a
component where there's, likeJapanese people or students that
are interested in practicingtheir English.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And maybe there's a swap where they become your
friend for the week and you'rejust buying them dinners and
stuff or paying for their foodand they show you around.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, they have like meetup things for that.
You should look into it,because I've definitely heard of
that before.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, because I don't want to just wander and be like
, oh, I don't want to missthings, yeah and it's, it's
really overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's what it looks like there's so much to do, and
I was really worried aboutmissing things too yeah and I
think I had to kind of like leaninto the fact that I was gonna
miss something right yeah andjust be like this is what I'm
gonna hit this time did you dothe Mario Kart in the street?
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I saw oh my god, I saw it.
Do you live down there, thisarea.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, I live in this building right here.
That's cool.
Yeah, how do you?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
like it.
I mean, it's got to be greatwhen the games are in town,
right Well?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
so it's actually funny.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Or is it chaotic?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's chaotic and my boyfriend and I really hate
baseball, which is ironicbecause, we live right across
the street from the stadium.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Kind of deserve it, so okay and so like I hate
baseball.
Let's move next to that spark.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah we like the water and like we have a dog and
okay, like the dog park rightthere is, so so good yeah it's
cool um, but yeah, we're likebaseball season starts our
quality of life just likenosedives.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Oh, they like close the roads, traffic, drunks, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, my love of closing the roads is like you
can't really drive anywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I noticed that they actually shut the bridge down
All the way out to the highway.
Why?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I don't know.
It's not like the executivebranch is here and they're so
mean.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, when you try and get through, because they
give us like a little piece ofpaper that says, oh, you can get
through, and the cops are somean when you show it to them, I
was like I'm just trying to gethome, like I've cried before.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What Half of them are probably like, whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, exactly, I mean , they don't care.
Oh, look See in as little as anhour.
Yep, yeah, right over there,right under the stadium.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I think that's serendipity.
That's what that is, that hasto be, I mean what are the odds?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Come to a game Play golf while you're here.
Yeah, that's so funny you inthis little offshoot alley thing
here.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You can just turn right in here.
Yep, yep, I think I've bridgeand all that.
It's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, we definitely enjoy it cool um.
Thank you, I wish you much luckand joy with the game.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Thank you, enjoy that thoroughly.
Do not give up, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay I will stick with it and get fitted when you
finally feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's so important.
Oh, there we go.
Everyone struggles with it.
Take, take care.
Good luck to you.
Bye now.
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Welcome to another episode of Rideshare Road Talk
Conversations in Motion, apodcast where we create
unfiltered talk space thatexamines the meaningful lives of
my passengers while engaging inpersonal and topical
discussions.
I'm your host and driver, JohnFondas, and we're cruising the
streets of Washington DC.
Buckle up, let's drive, let'stalk golf.
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How are you Good?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
How are you?
I'm good, I'm good.
All right, tell me the story.
The story, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You're carrying around clubs in DC.
I'm good, all right, tell methe story.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The story yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You're carrying around clubs in DC.
There's no golf course righthere.
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This right here is City Swing.
Okay, it is like an indoordriving range.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, apparently there is golf in the city.
Wow, before we go any further,I do this for a podcast.
Oh okay, would you like to beon it?
We talk about DC.
We talk about anything?
Oh sure, and if you want alittle QR code to see what it is
before you say yes, it's up toyou.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
That's okay, Okay cool.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
There's no names, no video, it's just conversations.
Great, that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm a huge golfer, huge, awesome, it's my passion
it's my thing has been since Iwas 15.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, fortunate enough, I've been to Scotland
twice nice old course.
Shot 79 in the old course.
Nice like shoot me in the face,my life's complete, that kind
of thing right the dream yeahright, tell me about where I
just picked you up.
What is going on in that place?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
so that is city swing .
It's an indoor um like golfsimulator and I just started
doing lessons there um, I'm notvery good right now, but they
are very helpful um yeah okay,bear with me one second.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm trying not to get confused by the navigation,
which is ridiculous and why Iwant to listen to you.
I had no idea that was there.
Like the facility like fullswing, like can you hit driver
in there, yeah.
Or like like how deep is thebay that you hit into?
It's like, or is it a simulator?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's a simulator.
Oh God damn it.
Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
See, I thought it was like this big like.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, indoor.
No, it's a simulator.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right.
Well, that's still cool though.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, they have that one.
And then, down by where you'retaking me, their X-Golf just
opened.
Okay, similar.
So that's another simulator,similar dude.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, Okay.
Well, you do have like HaynesPoint with the course down there
and I know there's a range downthere.
Yes, Langston is there.
It's a little dicey but there'sa good cheeseburger in the
clubhouse there, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
At least there used to be.
That's good to know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But you might get your club stolen too, oh well,
there's that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's a trade-off, you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, this was like years and years ago.
The joke was like I think itwas on the 7th or the 8th tee
box.
You would get held up atgunpoint all the time.
Yeah, so you're just startingto play.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I'm just starting to play.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Okay, you know this already probably, but in case
you don't, it's the greatestgame ever played.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm learning Ever Quickly, learning that.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm a football guy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Baseball guy Hockey, I get it, I get it all.
Golf bar none.
It's the greatest game everplayed.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's hard.
Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, but you know what the drug is and I don't
know if you've hit that yet.
Yeah, is that it takes hundredthings all sinking at once to
hit that shot perfectly.
Yep, and you know what?
Do you know what that?
Shot feels like okay, yeah,I've had it like twice, that's
the drug perfection isunattainable right, so you will
(03:54):
chase that the rest of your lifeum it is funny.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I'm like, why can't I just do that again, like I just
did it like and when you do itit's like effortless it's like,
like this thing in the universeopens up, you're like, oh my God
, it went forever and it didn'tfeel like anything.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah Right, that's great, that's very cool.
What's also cool is this orangechair over here with the person
doing these weird 360s in thechair.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh, I can't see him.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know what's going on over there.
That's really cool.
What's?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
that, oh, that's.
It's like a smitting top.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's like if you're trying to throw up and not enjoy
your evening.
That sounds like a good start.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
What is that in front of?
Is that a bar?
Yeah, it's like a bar, oh soyou're drunk and in the spinning
top With a spinny chair, nice.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, I have questions about that.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Anyways.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, the golf thing.
My oldest kid is now 19.
I had him started when he waslike eight.
Yeah, and he was a littlephenom Like he was a good
athlete, got recruited to playfootball in college a little bit
, oh, wow, Okay, and he had towork for those things.
Golf was natural, but he didn'tcare about it.
(05:15):
Oh, he was like baseball fine,cool football.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Like dude.
You don't understand.
There's grown men that can't dowhat you're doing Like you're,
so good at this.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, like I could stack him up at age like 12 and
tell him to hit a draw or a flopshot with a wedge and he would
just do it Dang.
And I'm like dude, there'sgrown men that can't do that.
You're like 12.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Do you think he'd get back into it or he's not into?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
it.
No, I think the seed wasplanted enough where he
understands how important of alife skill it can be.
Oh, for, sure I like didn'trealize, and that's just one of
the components that you'vealready figured out.
It opens up doors fornetworking, for work, and then
oh, by the way, every great golfresort on the planet has an
(06:00):
incredible hotel, wonderful spaand restaurants, and it's like
okay yeah, we visited um gleneagles oh yeah, earlier of
course in.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think it was january.
Yeah, in january so you've been.
That's awesome yeah, and whatwas funny, that's where I took
like my first golf lesson there,because I was like, if I don't
like it in Scotland, I'm notgoing to like it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know, let's just cut out the fat and get right to
the red meat.
Let's just learn golf inScotland.
Good for you, man.
That's great.
That's great.
Where's home for you originally?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Maryland?
Oh okay, yeah, me too.
Yeah, that's great.
Where's home for you?
Originally Maryland?
Oh okay, yeah, me too.
Yeah, so I didn't make it toofar.
Yeah, me too.
Where in?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Maryland.
I grew up in Rockville, oh okay, but I've lived in, like Ashton
Sandy Spring area for most ofmy adult life.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Gosh.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I grew up in Hartford County.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh.
So pretty far I know, that islike upper Chesapeake Bay kind
of sort of yeah, yeah, likebasically Pennsylvania.
Yeah, okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's cool.
Um, you know, sadly, I normallywill play year round.
If there's no snow cover andit's 30 degrees and no wind,
I'll go walk and I'll play.
Oh wow, and just you know your,the body heat keeps you warm.
But for whatever reason, maybemy head wasn't on straight, but
I didn't pick up a club fromlike right before Christmas
(07:23):
until like just last week.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Oh, wow.
Were you like itching for it,though you were like I need to
get back out, or not really I'msuch a creature of habit.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I can't do more than one thing obsessively at a time.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So if I've got like some work stuff going on, I okay
.
So if I've got like some workstuff going on, I'm grinding
right.
Or if I go fishing, that's mything for three weeks and
nothing else in the worldmatters.
That's fair.
And then when golf happens,then you know it happens yeah um
, but it's so funny.
I went with my youngest to thedriving range and I told a buddy
(07:56):
of mine the story.
I've got a wicked good shortgame just ridiculous to the
point where it's just it's likechess for me.
Like I know, I can get anywherenear the green in regulation,
wow, and my short game is sorefined that I know I'm gonna
get up and down and convert atleast 50% of the time.
Yeah, that's an 85 withoutblinking.
So throw in a birdie or two, acouple extra streaky holes.
(08:20):
There's a 79 there.
So, anyways, I go to the range.
I'm 56.
I'm fat, I'm out of shape.
I used to be flexible.
I'm not anymore.
I go crack a joint or two, hitfive wedges and on the fifth one
I kind of feathered one intoabout two feet from 130 yards
(08:43):
away.
I was like you know what?
I'm going home.
I left the bucket and I justwent home because I know it's
there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, like why corrupt it Just go.
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I hope you get to that point.
I hope so too, where you canhit five shots and just leave
yeah, that would be, that wouldbe nice yeah, yeah, your folks
still uh in that part ofmaryland they are.
Do they play golf too?
My dad does um what do youthink about your adventures?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
he.
I haven't told him yet which iscrazy.
I should tell him you should,um, but yeah, it's just like so
new that I haven't got to talkabout it, but I'm sure he'll be
excited.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, he like goes through phases, though where
he's like I like golf, I hategolf Like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Everyone has it.
Right, Everyone has it.
It is a love hate thing.
I mean anyone that plays golffor any considerable amount of
time has the same narrative,where you go out and just
nothing is working.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You're spraying it, you're stroking off the tee,
you're just piling up.
Big numbers are happeningeverywhere.
Yeah, and it's like divineintervention last hole, last
somewhere, there's always thatone shot.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's what my friend was telling me that you just
capture, that keeps you comingback.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, there's always one thing at the most unlikely
time, and it's probably becauseyou're so frustrated, you
surrender and then from thereit's like your muscle memory
just takes over.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right, that's the point I'm trying to get to now,
I think, where I'm notoverthinking because there's so
much to try and remember yeahthat I just like do the
individual movements enough thattheir muscle memory are you
committed to the process likeare you geeked out about it yet?
I'm pretty I wasn't.
And then I think, like thisweek I started like watching the
(10:36):
videos and being like what aresome drills I can do at home?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And so now I'm like Maybe you're walking through DC?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, exactly, With my clubs.
You know what a stupid questionon my part.
You should be like, hey,asshole, I'm walking around DC
with these clubs.
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I haven't taken them on the Metro, though that's my
line.
Yeah, yeah, I haven't takenthem on the Metro, though that's
my line.
I was like I need to take theride share.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's so funny.
There are a few books actually,and everyone's got an opinion.
I'm not going to tell youanything about how to swing.
One is called Harvey Panik'sLittle Red Book.
It is literally the Bible.
It is antiquated, it issimplistic in its form and
(11:21):
that's the beauty of it.
Walk or run Do not walk to getthis book.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
The second book is called Zen Golf Okay, by Dr
Joseph Parent.
I believe his name is Big likepsych guru guy for a lot of the
guys on tour or things like that.
Oh interesting.
He presents the mental side ofthe game in such a way that it's
so easily absorbable.
(11:49):
And when you talked about focusis why it struck me.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It changes the focus and the scope to not be focusing
on the ball or the cup, but thefocus on the whole scope of the
horizon in front of you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And what that does?
You take everything in and letsyou kind of kind of absorb and
kind of just balance yourselfout and all of a sudden you're
free swinging and it's just.
It's a spectacular exercise inthe mental approach to the game
All right.
So anyways, and there are quickreads too.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, I'll check those out.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's something just to keep on a coffee table too,
or an end table randomly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's cool.
I always get excited when Imeet a young person that's just
taking up golf.
That's cool.
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Thank you, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You're gonna have some challenges finding places
to play that are convenient.
That, yeah, I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Is what I am finding now.
The simulators are expensiveand I'd rather be on a course.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And look, golf is expensive now too.
Right, it's almost to the pointnow where you're, where you're
better off, not you, just ingeneral.
Yeah, joining a private club,you know.
Uh, initiation fee aside, butlike round for round, if I play
four to six times a week, oh,wow it's the same, I'm sorry,
not a, not a week a month.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh, okay, I was like a week, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I have no time the pro.
Four to six times a month.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And then you know your couple of range sessions,
yada, yada, you're spending moreon public golf.
Now there's plenty of places,at least in suburban Maryland,
where you can get a midweekmembership for probably the dues
are probably you know four orfive hundred a month.
Yeah, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, if you play that much one day maybe yeah that's
how much I feel like I have toplay to like get better.
Like I can't just like go to alesson once a week and get
better.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, hey look, you need the foundation right, and
lessons are great, but justremember, you know, one teacher
isn't a panacea to the game.
Everyone's full of shit intheir own way.
Some people communicate betterthan others.
So, you know, enjoy the process, but don't be afraid, once you
have the foundation, to put thework in yourself Right and and
(14:15):
find your way that way,especially with the short game,
because that's all feel anyways.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, did you play anywhere else when you were in
Scotland, or what else were youdoing there?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
No, that's all we did .
We were just there for like aweekend to kind of get out of DC
.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Wait, you went to Scotland for the weekend, well,
not the weekend.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Like a four-day long weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The flight almost killed me.
I went for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, we went to London and then Scotland.
Okay, cool and the flight's nottoo bad.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, it's not.
We did the the Iceland route,which was a nice little yeah, we
didn't before to get to Germanyyeah, we didn't stay over, but
it was just nice, because it'slike five hours and you kind of
stretch and then you're fromthere, it's like two and change.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I just got back from Japan actually, and that's all
my list.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh, like, literally, like I'm gonna go in the fall, I
think oh, please, yeah, youreally really should like my
fascination with that culture isridiculous and it's not like
you're Stereotypical, like guybullshit, like samurai swords
and crap right.
Like I'm fascinated by like thecommunal culture, the way the,
the elderly are kind of revered,and then the food scene and all
(15:38):
that.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
All of it, all of it is so good and they're like in
the future so much with so manythings, but like also still in
the past with so many things.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right Like from my research, kyoto is probably a
good example of that right.
Where it's all like the oldtemples mixed with the modern.
Yes, yeah.
Or a good example of that rightwhen it's all like the old
temples mixed with the modern,yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Or, like you know, they have in the train stations
a bento box where you can pull astring and it heats up, Like
you don't have to put it inanything, it just heats up by
itself.
But like they give you a papertrain ticket and if you lose
that paper train ticket you'reout of luck.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it's just like very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, what is this about the 7-Eleven egg salad
sandwich that I keep hearingabout?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh, my gosh, so good Is that really a.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, in every 7-Eleven.
And then you get the they havelike chicken, like cutlets that
are heated, and you open up theegg sandwich and put the chicken
inside and eat that and it isso good.
I think we probably had atleast one meal a day from
7-Eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
God, just because it's so convenient.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
But here's the thing I don't understand the supply
chain.
No one in their right freakingmind would eat an egg salad here
in a 7-Eleven.
Yeah, you've got to be insane,but there it's like people
travel thousands of miles to eatsushi, like they had fish, like
all that.
I don't think I would want toleave.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I don't think that was my problem as well and I was
worried because we went forthree weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We did like a perfect , south korea, japan, like kind
of double thing.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay, I was like, oh, that's way too long, I'm going
to want to come home.
I did not feel like I wanted tocome home.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You had wanderlust.
Yeah yeah, that's cool.
That's cool.
I should have done it when Iwas younger, but maybe it's
better now that I'm moreappreciative of what it is I'm
seeing and doing.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I think any timeis good.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What I need to dial into is there's got to be like a
component where there's, likeJapanese people or students that
are interested in practicingtheir English.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And maybe there's a swap where they become your
friend for the week and you'rejust buying them dinners and
stuff or paying for their foodand they show you around.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, they have like meetup things for that.
You should look into it,because I've definitely heard of
that before.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, because I don't want to just wander and be like
, oh, I don't want to missthings, yeah and it's, it's
really overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's what it looks like there's so much to do, and
I was really worried aboutmissing things too yeah and I
think I had to kind of like leaninto the fact that I was gonna
miss something right yeah andjust be like this is what I'm
gonna hit this time did you dothe Mario Kart in the street?
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I saw oh my god, I saw it.
Do you live down there, thisarea.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, I live in this building right here.
That's cool.
Yeah, how do you?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
like it.
I mean, it's got to be greatwhen the games are in town,
right Well?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
so it's actually funny.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Or is it chaotic?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's chaotic and my boyfriend and I really hate
baseball, which is ironicbecause, we live right across
the street from the stadium.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Kind of deserve it, so okay and so like I hate
baseball.
Let's move next to that spark.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah we like the water and like we have a dog and
okay, like the dog park rightthere is, so so good yeah it's
cool um, but yeah, we're likebaseball season starts our
quality of life just likenosedives.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Oh, they like close the roads, traffic, drunks, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, my love of closing the roads is like you
can't really drive anywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I noticed that they actually shut the bridge down
All the way out to the highway.
Why?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I don't know.
It's not like the executivebranch is here and they're so
mean.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, when you try and get through, because they
give us like a little piece ofpaper that says, oh, you can get
through, and the cops are somean when you show it to them, I
was like I'm just trying to gethome, like I've cried before.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
What Half of them are probably like, whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, exactly, I mean , they don't care.
Oh, look See in as little as anhour.
Yep, yeah, right over there,right under the stadium.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I think that's serendipity.
That's what that is, that hasto be, I mean what are the odds?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Come to a game Play golf while you're here.
Yeah, that's so funny you inthis little offshoot alley thing
here.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You can just turn right in here.
Yep, yep, I think I've bridgeand all that.
It's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yeah, we definitely enjoy it cool um.
Thank you, I wish you much luckand joy with the game.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Thank you, enjoy that thoroughly.
Do not give up, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay I will stick with it and get fitted when you
finally feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's so important.
Oh, there we go.
Everyone struggles with it.
Take, take care.
Good luck to you.
Bye now.
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