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n Episode 14 of RideShare RoadTalk we unwrap the insanity that is the concert ticket resale market, St. Andrews golf lottery, the magic of Connecticut and college football long snapping...Buckle up...Let's Drive!

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to another episode of Rideshare Road Talk
Conversations in Motion, apodcast where we create
unfiltered talk space thatexamines the meaningful lives of
my passengers, while engagingin personal and topical
discussions.
I'm your host and driver, johnFondas, and we're cruising the
streets of Washington DC.
Buckle up, let's drive.

(00:47):
Hey there, how you doing.
Come on in.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Thank you, good to see you Good to see you.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
What are you guys into tonight Anything fun and
exciting?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
A concert.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Cool, what concert.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Georgia Smith I'm old , dial me into that.
She did a really good Tiny Deskconcert with NPR like two years
ago, okay, and she's a Brit, soshe came across the pond.
Well, there we go, check at thesame place.
So we were just like whatshould we go to All?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
right, where's it happening?
Anthem, yeah, love that place.
We've never been.
Oh my God, I won't spoil it foryou.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's cool, right?
Everyone says it's a greatvenue.
I'm not going to spoil it.
You're supposed to go see acomedian named Tom Segura there.
Oh yeah, I had very annoyinglywork so we couldn't even go.
So you're going now.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
So now, enjoy it excellent.
I'm going to anthem.
I'm trying to go to anthem nextfriday for a concert and my
son's coming back into town andit's sold out.
But like the after markets areso expensive, it's like, bro, I
can't spend like eight hundreddollars on what are you trying
to do uh dream theater it's likea prog.
Uh, I've heard of that metalband.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, um, just tick pick is uh, I found that
recently and there's there's no.
I don't know how it compares,but there's no fees okay, so
they roll everything in?
Yeah, maybe I think it's.
I think it is theoretically alittle bit on the cheap side
yeah that's how they, you know,make okay some volume there, but
I don't know.
I it's, but it's been.
It's what I've been using,because it even just feel like

(02:27):
whenever you get tickets andit's like a 20 fee just makes me
feel bad.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's crazy, I mean, with with all the craziness
going on in dc.
Right, you think the one thingthat actually needs some kind of
oversight and regulation wouldbe that the ticket market resale
, because um yeah, it wasn'tTaylor Swift supposed to fix
that?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
what?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
happened.
She was supposed to help uh,kamala Harris get elected too,
so I don't know how that worked.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Louis CK stopped doing that before everything,
you know, even everything whenhe was like at his height and uh
had just like wouldn't allowsecondary tickets.
I don't know how he wouldprevent it, but he could only
buy it from his site and hadlike a specific barcode or
something like that.
So you couldn't actually, if itresold them, it would like void
the ticket so that he couldonly charge.
It would only be, like you know, 60 bucks or whatever, and

(03:14):
affordable instead of likegetting gouged by all the ticket
resales.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Foo Fighters tried that a bunch and I'll found a
name drop like when anthem firstopened the very first show,
they, they christened the placeand my wife and I were fortunate
enough to get tickets and itwas like I don't know how we did
it.
It just was like a miracle, um,but it was so locked down, like
there was like language aboutprosecution and all this stuff,

(03:41):
because they did not wantaftermarkets, because it would
have been just insanity whatthey could have charged
aftermarket for those seats.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
It's cool of them.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah.
But I think the luxury of beingthat big of an artist, that you
have that kind of latitude andcontrol to do that, yeah, I
think if people actually knewwhat happened behind the
curtains with promoters likeLive Nation and what's the other
one, and Ticketmaster to anextent like how much of a cut

(04:14):
they get versus what the artistgets, it would be like a riot.
Yeah, there's always themiddleman is what really right
that corrupts the enjoyment orthe event.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Like if Ticketmaster is giving you some good service,
like, but it's just, they'rejust in the way, it's just a
gouge for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I was very fortunate enough to go to Scotland to play
golf at St Andrews.
I went twice and you know layperson knowledge.
It's a very hard tee time toget, and so a lot of people will
use these tour providers.
Yeah, huge markup.
I mean it's expensive tripanyways, but you're talking like

(04:55):
three to four $5,000 markups ontop of you know, errors never
included and it's a bucket list.
So if you're passionate aboutgolf, you'll you'll do it once
If you can.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
My coworker my boss, uh, last year went and did that
with all of his like his golfbuddies.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, it's a thing for sure.
But I was determined not to dothat and I built the whole thing
by myself and I found out therewas like this well, it's not
secret anymore, but there was aclandestine lottery that you
would enter at a certain time ofthe year and they would give
you, like, the dates that aretotally busy, don't bother.

(05:33):
And they would give you theseopen dates and then they'd give
you three different weeks inwhich to choose, and first time
got it, was it like?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
is it like a?
You're kind of like luck ofwhatever you put in for.
If it's like gone, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's like hey, preference of these three weeks
they're going to try to get youa tee time somewhere on the old
course.
They do an old course plus onethe other courses on property
and it was very reasonable.
I mean, forget the exchangerate, you know, I think it and
this was pre-COVID by a year, soit was maybe 500 bucks for that

(06:13):
, and then airfare I was gettingpeople there coach for like
seven or 800 bucks.
So when you do the math, it'slike and if you're frugal, you
know, two grand all in for aweek in St Andrews with nothing.
Yeah, that's pretty great.
So there you go, andcounterparts are paying five to

(06:33):
seven.
So hopefully it won't getfleeced that bad tonight, I
think we used this one.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I think it's Tick, pick right, you got these.
No, it's not Just get them atAnthem.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
You guys from DC originally, or where's home?
I am Cool, washington, yeah, Icould kind of claim that too.
You know the dmv I grew up inin near rockville, thanks.
So you dc proper is what you'resaying.
Yeah, oh boy, you're.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
You're like a unicorn then when I first came down
here, I was like I'll move tovirginia.
Maybe I live in, I grew up inconnecticut, um, but I was
moving down out here later andjust like, oh, maybe Virginia is
pretty nice, like no, you'removing to DC and all of her
friends are from DC, so it'sit's.
I didn't even realize that it'show rare it was until, yeah, I
mean, neither did I, cause I waslike don't bother, it really is
.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I do think if I had to, I would go.
Maryland before Virginia.
Oh, you have to, yeah, except Ilike Maryland.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I don't know what there's.
I get way too lost in Virginia.
I probably get just as lost inMaryland.
But I the wineries, I like that, but beyond that it's I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Where in Connecticut?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
from Fairfield County .
It's called Trumbull.
It's a 1989 Little League WorldSeries champs.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, give me a guidepost.
Where is that going to be near?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Bridgeport, fairfield , it's like the southern, it's
like an hour outside of New YorkCity, it's like on the southern
, If you know the shape ofConnecticut it's like a
rectangle a little thing on thefront.
It's like where that littlepiece on the front like meets
the big rectangle.
So it's very close to New Yorkcity.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
And who knew we were doing geometry?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I don't know how to uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's cool People that I feel like um, I mentioned
, I just mentioned it to ourbabysitter two seconds ago and
she was like oh yeah, I grew uplike he lives like 20 minutes
from there when my my oldest sonwas in the football orbit for
college and stuff, um, we wentup to a camp at uh, at yale, and
he also went and looked at someother smaller school up there

(08:46):
and it was kind of like a cattlething.
There wasn't any real interest,but I just, we just went for
the experience, you know.
But we we happened into, um,old saybrook, yep, really cool
little town.
There's a lot of cool littleyeah, and there's this bright
yellow kind of like coloniallooking hotel on the water and
the food was great yeah, that'sa lot.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
There's a lot of, just like, the food is always
pretty solid.
There's tons of italians upthere.
That's your thing, but uh anduh the like, a lot of the like
water towns, like in guilfordand all that area yeah that's
kind of near where I don't wedon't live on the water, but
it's pretty close and there's aton of like the beaches suck,

(09:26):
but it's nice, uh, just to kindof have that backdrop.
Do they suck because they'relike it's?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
on the.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Long Island Sound.
So they're like the water's notgreat.
Versus like sand or just dirtywater, cold, More of like cold
dirty water.
Not dirty water, but like likeyou can go in it and it's not
like a health problem.
It's not like crystal beautifulright like there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
There's not like surf .

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's the long, it's like a long island.
It's like a.
It's like a river that you arenot a river like.
It's a sound that you just like.
It's between new york andconnecticut and it's just like
commercial shipping.
Yeah, no, I don't think I have.
I don't think it's like, uh,like rojoboth or bethany or deer
Ocean City, that kind of beachand, like North, like Cape Cod
or Rhode Island, rhode Islandbeaches are really nice.

(10:11):
Yeah yeah, it's pretty up there.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Newport's a fun town.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, my buddies lived up there.
He went to School of Providenceand he's never come back.
He's just been up in that area.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
His family goes on vacation there every year.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's really we did go up to Bryant, who's one of the
schools that was recruiting himto play football.
My mother went there, middle ofnowhere.
There was no town If there wasone bar with a little main
street.
I would be like cool, bro go.
But how do you tell an18-year-old kid like, hey, here

(10:44):
you go?
He's like yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
That little bar might be called the library, because
my mom always loves us to tellthe story how her mom used to
call her when she was in college.
She'd be like, oh, I'm at thelibrary, but she meant the bar.
It was meant at the bar.
I wonder if they've changednames after 50 years.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's a classic, it's a staple, Solid little
business school from what I'velearned.
Yeah, they have really goodpipelines right into Boston and
New York.
You know, for the finance andbusiness majors I think it is a
good school.
I think I applied there.
The price tag was just it wasout of control for a very small
school like that.
Yeah, I mean it was like the 70and change.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Jesus.
Before that I didn't think thatwas yeah, Ours was.
Well, we went to state school,so we went to the University of
Delaware.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Okay, yeah, and Molly , I didn't know that she had.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
You get state Because DC has no state school.
You get to pay state schoolprices no you get to apply for a
Subsidy, a credit Subsidy grantA scholarship.
You apply for a scholarshipthrough DC to go to baseball.
That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
There's something called the Common Market
Exchange.
Let's say there's, you know, 13states that are in the exchange
, If your home state doesn'thave a particular major you get
the other ones If you want to goto a different state school and
swap.
And my son wound up at tennessee.
That's where he is now.
Please football, tennessee.
No, no, he's just a regularstudent.
He flamed out, he was atmaryland, got sick, got in the

(12:16):
portal, went to east carolina,hated it and said dad, that's
enough, and so he's at tennesseeum, probably still really
awesome experience in tennessee.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Oh, he loves it.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
He absolutely loves it more than playing football
but for whatever reason, youknow, University of Maryland or
no school in Maryland hadbusiness analytics and Tennessee
did and it was like in-state.
I'm like giddy up, that'sawesome.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, that's really awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
See ya, that makes so much sense.
Like 48 versus 25.
Like okay.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's interesting that they don't.
Yeah, it sounds like a verycommon major.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
You would think I mean they have it now and he was
grandfathered in I see.
Yeah, I mean Smith at Marylandis a very well-regarded business
program, business school.
So it was very shocking.
He goes to Maryland, puts allthis hard work in for years,

(13:12):
gets opportunity to go tomaryland and then ding dong
makes out with the girl and getsmono, like literally right in
the middle of camp, and withmono there's such a wide berth
with recovery you just don'tknow yeah and the doctors
couldn't clear him and righteventually he's like dude, like
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
what, uh?
What position did he play?
He was a long snapper.
Nice, my friend, this longsnapper for cop or uh delaware
yeah he's just really good atthat and just dude it.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Tell you, man, it's.
It's a little more prevalentnow, but, like five to ten years
ago, you could have stealingscholarships if you're a long
snapper yeah, he like that, hejust didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
My friend stopped because he got drug tested and
was like I'm just gonna, I wantto party.
I don't want to be a longsnapper, like he was getting
like a very minimal scholarshipthat didn't matter so much right
?
He's like yeah this is notworth it.
Like he was trying to doeverything.
It's a lot of hard work, yeah Imean it doesn't matter fairly.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
You're playing like a few snaps a game, but you still
trying to do everything.
It's a lot of hard work, man.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I mean it doesn't matter, even when you're
like fairly, you're playinglike a few snaps a game.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
But you know you still have to do, you have to
work out Every day.
Yeah, exactly, do it all.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, showing up to some balls and you know it's a
lot of time.
It's one of those positionsthat no one.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
The joke is and I've seen it firsthand.
It's like you know.
You get all these guys, theskills guys, and how do you do
that?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I mean, these guys were throwing the ball 15 yards
between their legs in like lessthan a second, I know, and it's
like four or five a game.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, but I just the physics of that.
Like he was good but he wasn'tlike a superstar good.
He was good but he wasn't likea superstar good, but he would
throw like from 14 yards hewould snap like .68, .69.
That's pretty ridiculous.
Like I can't throw a regularpass as a quarterback, not that

(15:02):
accurately.
No, I can't throw it that fast,you can't.
It was fascinating to watchthat.
That's pretty cool, pretty cool.
Yeah, how long ago was yourfriend?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
at uh delaware.
How long ago was that?
Uh 20.
He graduated in 2010, so oh,okay, 15 years ago he actually
had a kid today, so long enoughfor wow, a lot of stuff, yeah
yeah, but he, uh, he was on theteam.
He was on the team for thefirst like year and there was
always just like one, so he wasplaying with joe flacco yeah the
super bowl you know all thefunny stuff.

(15:35):
That's the claim of likedelaware.
Football is not that great, butthey do have two got to go
there the year that flacco isstarting to just senior year.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Your pardon, that's quarterback, you yeah and him
and rich gannon.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
they're the I the Delaware is of a very small
number of schools that have twoSuper Bowl winning courts, See
there you go.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think it's so amazing what they've done down
here with the development yeahit's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
It's insane.
We walked when the All-Stargame was here from like over
here all the way to the stadium.
Yeah, I assumed I guess I knewwe could do that before.
But what was over here beforethey built?
All this oh nothing, it was ashitty yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
There was the open air kind of seafood market was
there.
It still is, which is cool, andeverything else was like just
weird.
There was like a little tinymarina.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
That's still there too, right yeah, they built it
back up, but it was like alittle tiny marina.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's still there too, right yeah they built it
back up but it was like justweird, like Motel 6, weird
Admirals Inn, just weird thirdtier.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And now there's like the most expensive real estate.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Did they do the second part?
Wasn't there like a phase twohappening?
Yeah, I think it's likedowntown.
When did we used to be downhere?
Um 2015?
, like when I had like softbookhands and stuff?
No, when it kind of all itwasn't even build up then.
It was like three years after Igot here.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Are you guys heading straight in?
Are you going to eat somethingdown here?
I?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
think we're going to go straight in oh okay, but yeah
wherever it's safe to followright now.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
No, no, no, this will be cool.
Yeah, wherever it's safe tofollow.
I know this is like no, no, no,this is this will be cool.
There you go, man.
Thank you so much, guys.
Enjoy the venue.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's really cool.
Thank you so much.
It was nice talking to you.
Absolutely, have a good one.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Good luck with the tickets for next week.
Yeah, I got to figure somethingout for sure.
Take care now.
Thank you for Road Talk.

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