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May 27, 2025 56 mins
In this episode, Jess Breach and Ellie Kildunne are joined by Saracens and Welsh fly-half Flo Williams. But Flo isn’t just making waves on the pitch—she’s also shaping the future of the game off it, recently becoming Saracens' first-ever Creative Director in Rugby. The trio explore what rugby can learn from other sports, how the Lionesses managed to capture a nation’s heart, and why the men’s game could take a few cues from the women’s. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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