February 3, 2025 • 34 mins
The podcast explores the intersection of running, faith, and community, emphasizing the value of consistency in achieving personal growth. Listeners are encouraged to engage with their own stories and reflect on the role of consistency in their journeys.
• Introducing the hosts and the podcast theme
• The influence of running on personal and spiritual growth
• Building a coffee business centered around community and quality
• Personal stories of challenges and triumphs
• The connection between healthy habits and lifestyle
• An invitation for listener engagement and shared experiences
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Holli (00:00):
I'm Holli and this is Calvin, and welcome to the
Running On Coffee and Christpodcast.
We are so excited to get thisstarted.
It has been a journey and amission on our heart to be able
to start something like this andjust to create community around
three of our favorite things,which is running and coffee and
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Christ, not necessarily in thatorder.
Calvin (00:26):
Disclaimer.
So, yeah, so definitely.
We're so thankful for you alljoining us on this journey and
we look forward to being able toshare some of our experiences
around getting into the sport ofrunning our lifelong journey
from a young childhood for bothof us in our relationship with
Christ, and then, not too manyyears ago, really getting in
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deep on coffee and starting ourown business, opening our own
coffee shop and seeing God movein many different ways with the
employees and the community andwith opportunities, and this is
one of those opportunities wefeel God's leading us towards.
Holli (01:02):
For sure, and so every time that we do this podcast,
we're always going to have ourcup of coffee.
We truly love coffee.
It's not just something that wetry to sell.
The reason that we even wantedto open up a coffee shop is
because we had such a deep lovefor coffee.
Calvin (01:23):
The community.
Holli (01:24):
I mean, it's a healthy love.
It's not creepy weird?
I don't think, do you?
Calvin (01:29):
Yeah, we're not.
We're not too much into all thesugary stuff.
We really like the flavor ofcoffee.
Holli (01:34):
We like we're both drinking Americanos right now,
so just an Americano is espressoand water, so basically just
black coffee.
That is what I drink 99% of thetime.
Calvin (01:46):
I would say I'm probably 85% of the time.
Holli (01:50):
Now, before we opened, I drank a lot of mochas.
I drank a lot of mochas.
Calvin (01:59):
I would explore.
Holli (02:00):
He did.
He would explore when we wentout to places and we loved.
We loved Starbucks for a time.
We don't enjoy it as muchanymore.
We found things there that wedo like, and it's mainly just a
roast profile thing that wedon't like, because everything's
really dark roast and we'relight roast and once you get
used to light roast, then thedark roast seems even just worse
(02:24):
.
Yeah, um, but we would go todifferent coffee shops that was
a fun thing for us to do if wehad a date?
Calvin (02:32):
we went to a coffee shop if we had an event we went to a
coffee shop if we had to travel.
Holli (02:36):
We went to a coffee shop right, we would google, you know
, coffee shops and we found somereally good ones and we found
some ones that were like, oh man, that was they, they miserable.
They, uh, could have done abetter job on that.
And so we were like, well, whydon't we try to do a better job
on that?
and we I say this with allhumility yeah 100 um, we don't
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have it all figured out and wenever will have it all figured
out, but god did place greatpeople in our path, like with
our roasters, with candace andjohn, with foundry roasters, and
um all of our past businessexperiences in our own personal
lives for sure, really led up tothis and I'm sure we'll get
into more of that.
We will, but you see, like atthe time, things that were
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happening in your life, likethis jigsaw puzzle piece and
this jigsaw puzzle piece, andthey just seem like single
pieces.
But now I see that they weremaking a puzzle and it was a
pretty puzzle.
Calvin (03:33):
I think it's pretty puzzle yeah, I do too and I just
want the puzzle to keep gettingbigger and uh, more outreach is
what I mean when I say bigger,um but, that being said, like,
like, we have a lot of storiesthat the last few years, the
last five years, and then 10,and then 20 years, going all the
way back to our childhood withour relationship with Christ,
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sure, you know and then even inhigh school, with you know, some
dabbling that I did in therunning sports.
You know we have a lot ofdifferent histories to be able
to bounce back on and we feellike it's really important for
us to be able to share that withanyone who's willing to listen
and hopefully you would join uson this journey of getting
closer to God, excelling at yoursport and learning about the
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business world, the things thatwe've experienced in our first
two years of being open.
Holli (04:20):
We're babies.
Yeah, we're babies by far.
Calvin (04:23):
And trying to figure out how to navigate the world of
small business and trying tothink how do we grow this?
And having a growth mindset andalso making sure we bring
people along with us.
And it's not just about ustrying to run off and leave our
current situation.
It's us trying to grow ourcommunity and grow our family
and grow our friends and growour employees and really focus
on that.
And we want to hear yourstories too, and we're going to
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really focus on that, but wewant to bring you.
Holli (04:45):
We want to hear your stories too, and we're going to
have guests on here.
God has already laid so manypeople in our heart and they
don't even know it yet, but thatwe want to have on here to
share their testimonies andtheir stories, whether it be
with just their walk with Christor with coffee or with running.
And those are not the onlythree things that we're going to
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talk about, but they arefoundations in our life.
But back to, we're always goingto have our coffee, so we have
a very wide range of coffee cupsthat we have collected over
our—.
Calvin (05:20):
Every trip.
Holli (05:21):
How long have we been married?
Calvin (05:22):
22.
22 years, 22 years yeah.
Holli (05:25):
We've been together 23 years, so you know, a coffee cup
is one of those kinds of thingsthat you can always find it.
No matter what touristdestination you're at, they're
gonna have a coffee cup or ashot glass.
We don't drink alcohol.
So you know, obviously we we'recoffee holics and we're gonna
get coffee cups.
But so, um, we have a wideselection of coffee cups and
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we're like what do we do withthese?
Calvin (05:49):
Yeah, you know, I mean, everybody's got that cabinet.
Yeah, the cabinet that's justoverflowing.
Holli (05:54):
It is and you're like I don't need another mug.
And then you go to a store andyou see another mug and you're
like I have to have that mug.
Calvin (06:00):
And I always worry about , like you're stacking them one,
two and three on top of eachother and you're like which
one's going to fall and breakand ruin a memory.
Holli (06:06):
You know it's like, and I wouldn't say surprisingly, that
has not happened to us.
No, it hasn't.
Calvin (06:09):
And I have one that was cracked, but it was when I was
on a vacation and I came or atrip and a business trip.
Holli (06:29):
And I came back and when I got out of our cups and I was
like, oh my goodness, I rememberthis trip, or I remember, you
know, having this from when Iwas a teenager.
It's just cool memories.
Calvin (06:38):
So today my coffee cup is.
Holli (06:39):
I start my day with a God shot and that's from the Bible
recap.
If you have been following usat all, we are following the
Bible recap.
We do studies on that, but I dostart my day with a God shot.
I try to start my day.
Sometimes I'm ending it with aGod shot.
Calvin (06:57):
Yeah, we were just talking about that.
I haven't done mine yet for theday.
Yeah, and that's just readingthrough the Bible the whole year
, if you want more informationon the Bible recap?
Holli (07:05):
just reach out to us.
Calvin (07:07):
It's just the tool we're using right now in our life,
but mine is actually a Swedishwooden horse on a cut.
But I got this as a memory fora place that my grandparents
took us when I was younger andwe went and visited there and I
had to get this and they bothpassed away.
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But it was such a treat forthem to be able to take us to
this restaurant and it's where Ihad my first Swedish pancake.
He bought us the wooden horsesthat were hand-carved and even
my wife got to meet him beforehe passed away.
He snuck off, you know does hislittle Grandpa Green thing and
he snuck off in the distance andcame back and slid it across
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the table and it's like a littlesurprise, a little treat, and
it's definitely a big memory,this cup right here of my
grandparents.
During this first podcast, wewere trying to figure out what
do we want to talk about, togive you, you know, a lot of
value, not just rambling aboutourselves.
What is it that?
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That where we are at in ourjourney right now, basically
with what we're doing when itcomes to running, when it comes
to our faith and then when itcomes to our business with
coffee, what is our driver, ourtheme?
I guess we talked about it awhole lot here, a lot, a lot,
and that is being consistentcoffee.
Holli (08:24):
What is our driver, our theme?
I guess we've talked about it awhole lot here lately.
Calvin (08:25):
A lot, a lot, and that is being consistent, being
consistent in what you're doing,the goal that you have set
before you.
You plan out the steps, youknow what you're trying to do
and you have to be consistent intaking the actions that are
going to take you to the placethat you want to be.
And running right now has beena big one, probably more so in
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Holly's life, with some longerdistances, some goals that she's
been trying to reach, and thebusiness one has maybe been a
little more of mine where I'vereally tried to figure out some
new ventures and some newopportunities, some new ways of,
uh, of improving our shop, um,on that front.
So you have to obligate the timeyou know, and you have to be
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consistent about that time wewere just talking about, like,
trying to get a run in andsqueeze it in, and you can't
squeeze in a long run.
Holli (09:18):
Yes, it doesn't happen no , and I really needed to go on a
long run today because I'm I'mtraining for another half
marathon and I'm wanting to getmy time down, and so there's
just certain things that you'vegot to do in order to achieve
that goal, and obviously it'snot a life or death situation,
you know, but it is something inmy life that I enjoy doing.
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So I was a little frustratedtonight because I didn't have
time to run.
I was only going to get acouple of miles in and and it
frustrated me.
But you do have to have gracewith yourself, you know.
Calvin (09:54):
Yeah, Like I look back at the day and I'm like where
did all the time go?
And it's like every minute feltlike it was occupied, like
there was something that we weredoing during every minute of
the day.
But then you go back and youthink like well, I could have
prioritized a little bitdifferently.
Holli (10:12):
Yes, I could have planned it out a little bit better and
and set myself up for success alittle earlier in the day,
because most of the time thestars are not all going to align
perfectly for you to do exactlyhow you wanted to do it.
And that doesn't mean thatyou're not being consistent I'm
still being, even if I didn't dothe long run.
And when I say long run likemaybe six miles, okay, even if I
didn't do that, I still did two.
Calvin (10:33):
Consistently striving.
You're striving to reach a goaland you know you look back, say
you don't reach the time thatyou want or you don't get the
the speed that you want, or youhave an injury or something like
that that you get bummed aboutand like you look back and
you're like, well, maybe thereare some things that I could
have improved on and I shouldhave done those longer runs
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earlier in the day andprioritize that, because it
would have set me up to be ableto get a better time or just to
be able to to not have as stiffof a body during this next
workout or whatever it is thatyou're trying to do.
Recovery did I go slow enoughin my recovery to be able to set
myself up to run fast during arace?
Holli (11:12):
Because rest is important too.
You have to consistently rest.
Yeah, you do, and the main wordis consistency, and I think,
too, like last year was a reallyhard year for us.
Yeah, I still feel like we'recrawling our way out of 2024.
And it's with so many differentfacets in our life.
Calvin (11:36):
Yeah.
Holli (11:36):
That I feel like God took a magnifying glass and just
like put it on certainsituations and issues in our
life and was like this needs tobe fixed.
Calvin (11:49):
It's like God with a magnifying glass burning the ant
Like he's shining it on you andyou're like yes, god, this
hurts.
Holli (11:55):
It does.
Calvin (11:56):
And I see the light.
And the only way to take careof this is either I got to get
closer to the magnifying glassto get out of that focal range
where I'm closer to you and it'snot going to burn anymore, but
right now there's a burn for thegriefs and woes.
Holli (12:12):
You may be thinking I don't run, it's okay, Because
the thing about running is youcan fill that blank in.
You can be like see, I can sayrunning has taught me
consistency.
Calvin (12:25):
Well, you can take running and make it a blank.
Holli (12:28):
And fill that in, fill that blank in with whatever it
is in your life that God isusing you, using in your life to
teach you about consistency.
Calvin (12:36):
If you're wanting to write a book, you've got to
consistently write in that book.
If you want to teach a Sundayschool class, you've got to
consistently prepare for thatSunday school class.
You know, whatever it is, withyour job, with your career, with
your business ventures, if youare going to grow something
that's been placed on your heart, you have to consistently work
towards that.
You can't just say, okay, I'mgoing to do this and poof, it
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happens.
You know that doesn't happen.
You have to consistently put inthe effort to develop things,
plan things, lay things out.
And I'll give Holly credit.
She has a very forward mind andI'm a very builder mind.
You know like, show me thevision, I'll try to build it.
Holli (13:14):
You know like, and I will say this Like I have that
vision mind, I don't necessarilyhave a great Building line.
That's what God put us togetherDing, Great job, god, you rock.
Calvin (13:28):
Yes, but back on topic, you have to think about it in a
lot of different ways, about thevalue of consistency in your
life.
You consistently go to bed at acertain time to try to get rest
.
Holli (13:42):
We're bad at this?
Yeah, we are.
Calvin (13:43):
But we heard one of our mentors was talking about.
The only way that you can getmore rest is to go to bed early,
because your day is alwaysgoing to start almost at the
same time every day.
You're not going to be able toforce yourself to go to bed in
the early light.
You have to force yourself togo to bed earlier.
So plan your life in accordanceto where you are ready and
prepared to go to bed early.
Holli (14:01):
And it has to be a consistent practice.
I feel like we are making moresteps towards that.
It's not great still, but ithas gotten better.
Like we're not, I mean at theend of the day, it's like you
feel this need of it's me time.
It's like shut down time andit's like I want to watch this
show because it's one thing I'mgetting to do for myself today.
Calvin (14:29):
But I have realized, we really are not watching much at
all.
We don't have a TV in ourbedroom or anything anymore,
it's been removed.
Holli (14:37):
We don't really sit down much in front of the TV at all.
I don't even think that we evensaid hey, we're taking the TV
out of our bedroom.
It was just like it migrated.
We became more focused on otherthings because we were like,
when God gives you hopes anddreams and plans and goals, it's
like how, how do I get there?
And you start reverseengineering.
You know.
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It's like okay, if this is theend point, what are the steps
that I have to take to get there?
Point what?
Calvin (15:08):
are the steps that.
Holli (15:08):
I have to take to get there.
What is going to keep me fromreaching that?
And that is something that hasbeen like.
I said God with the magnifyingglass, I feel like he was like
this is keeping you from more,this is keeping you from doing
this, this is keeping you fromdoing that, and it's like okay,
and it's almost overwhelming andand you can be like I suck.
You know, I mean for lack of abetter word.
You can feel shame or justyou're not where you're supposed
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to be and it's like that's notwhat it's about.
And I'm so thankful that wehave a Heavenly Father that is
constantly seeking us out andprodding us and being like, oh
sorry, and being like hey,you're made for more.
Calvin (15:46):
Yeah.
Holli (15:46):
You know you're made for more and I'm ready to give you
more if you're ready for more.
But it's going to take someconsistency.
Calvin (16:01):
And you know this goes so deep when it comes to our
relationship with Christ.
You know, I remember at onepoint when I was younger, I
remember having the phrase in myhead that said I want to
believe what I believe.
And basically I was like tryingto figure out what in the world
do I believe, or was I justbelieving what I was told to
believe?
You know, like I had thisreally deep journey where I was
like do I really truly believethat Jesus Christ is the son of
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God, or do I just believe itbecause someone said that, you
know, and I was like, and I andI did, I believed it, but it's
like, what about the nuances ofit?
What about all these otherthings that are theology in the
Bible, that are theories, youknow, and concepts?
You know?
I'm like, well, do I justbelieve what people say?
And that's when I, like, reallywould start thinking about the
word of God differently.
Um, and it wasn't just aboutseeing familiar verses, but it
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was about finding verses in theBible that God pointed out for
me to learn something throughabout him, about the history,
about how it applies to me in mylife and in our future, and not
necessarily just oh, Irecognize that as that Sunday
school lesson that I heard manyyears ago.
It's not just because it'sfamiliar, it's because I wanted
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it's familiar, it's because Iwanted it to be personal, um and
and and a personal relationshipwith Christ.
It's just, it's indescribable.
You know how, how amazing Godis.
Um, I can, I can know my wifefrom a distance all day long and
I'll think Hey's a pretty ladyover there.
You know, when I was lookingfor someone to date and like
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yeah, but getting closer, I waslike seeing her character really
drew made me draw near to herand want to be closer to her.
You know, closer to you, right,and and being close to you, it
made me want to get even closer,you know and goes back to that
word consistency yeah like whenwe're dating, you consistently
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communicate with one another,right?
Holli (17:49):
Constantly yeah, like, if you talked one time a week, you
might.
Calvin (17:54):
Yeah.
Holli (17:55):
But you talk every day and you build that relationship
even closer.
And so I know, like last yearin our on it.
I'm just gonna be completelyhonest with you 2024 was very
painful for us.
We saw growth, great growth inour business.
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Um, we were just having to havereally painful lessons yeah that
we having to get through andwe're still getting through them
, honestly, yeah, but going backto the consistency, so this
year was really a painful year.
It was hard and we had a lot ofpainful lessons that we had to
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learn, but I really got into myJanuary 1, I got into the Bible
and I'm a pastor's daughter Alot of.
If you know us locally, youknow that I've grown up in
church my whole life.
I think my dad startedpastoring when I was two years
old.
I don't know anything different, and it kind of goes back to
you of you want your ownpersonal relationship with God,
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not just what somebody's toldyou.
And so my dad, though he wasalways really good about
encouraging his church,encouraging us to read our Bible
every day, so that wasingrained in me to read your
Bible every day.
And it wasn't a you have to dothis in order to be this, or it
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wasn't that it was.
He says you want to know God,you want to to be closer to god,
you have to stay in his word.
Well, I would, you know, Iwould read my bible, but I
wasn't consistent about itthrough all those years, and so
january 1, I was like I'm gonnabe consistent this year and I
started the bible recap, whichgoes through it chronologically,
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and so this past year was myfirst time to read through the
Bible fully in my whole life,and I've been in church my whole
life.
I've been a Christian sinceI've been saved since I was 15
years old and I haven't evenread his word.
I'm 39 years old now, so likewhen you really think about that
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but I also think about theconsistency of doing that for a
whole year changed my life.
I agree it completely changed mylife and so and that's when
that word consistency was justit kept coming up and it's like
I felt like he was just sayingsee, see, see, what happens when
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you're, when you're consistent,and it's not that everything's
perfect or that I'm perfect orI've got it all figured out.
I realize that I have nothingfigured out.
Really, I'm completely relianton Him, I really am.
Calvin (20:37):
Yeah.
Holli (20:38):
And you know it's like with our coffee.
We have a lot of people come inand they'll say why is it
different?
It tastes better.
Okay, Now I realize this ispeople's opinions.
Okay, I am not knocking anycoffee shop because if there's a
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coffee shop out there, we'regoing to go to it.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
I've dropped the kids off atschool and I went by the coffee
shop in Oneonta and I get anAmericano on my way home because
I'm wanting something.
So we are not snobs.
But people will say what's sodifferent about it?
Well, we try to be reallyconsistent, Like that was
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important to us, and you canexplain a little bit about how
we are consistent, like that.
Calvin (21:28):
I think that when you so 100% a lot of our gratitude
towards the coffee that we'reable to serve.
I have to go back to John andCandice, our roasters.
They really took us under theirwing as far as really wanting
to mentor us in a lot of theindustry when it comes to
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producing a good cup of coffee.
Because the concept she laidout before me Candice did one
time she was talking about howthe farmer can pick the cherry
in the perfect season.
The family of the farmer canlay it out and get the perfect
amount of ripeness, fermentation.
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They can turn it at the exacttime on the pads, they can send
it to the washer at the exactright moment.
They can dry it and then bag it, and then the shipping
container could have perfecthumidity conditions all the way
to America.
It could come into America,come straight to the roaster.
The roaster could do a perfectroast on it.
Every single bean is roasted toperfection.
And when it comes to thebarista, and they don't pull
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that shot within a certaintimeframe or within a certain
weight, or within a certaingrind size or within a certain
parameters on their watertemperatures, their grinder
temperatures, the transfers, ifit's not tamped just right any
one of those variables.
If it's not consistentlydesigned to optimize the
extraction on that bean, thecustomer will experience a bad
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cup of coffee.
So it doesn't matter ifeveryone upstream does exactly
what they're supposed to.
It doesn't matter if everythinggoes perfect.
If you don't perform your taskto perfection consistently, your
customer is going to experiencea bad experience.
They're going to have a bad cupof coffee, and I was thinking
about that.
You know, like our parentscould have done anything they
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could to keep us in church, ourcommunity, you could be raised
in the Bible belt.
You could be raised anywhere,like where, where, where you are
just exposed to God, likeyou're exposed to the Holy Word,
and you could have the perfectenvironment where everyone
that's around you is reallytrying to help you to grow
closer to God.
But if you don't actuallyconsistently seek God's face,
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you are not going to know Hiswill.
Holli (23:42):
That's right.
Calvin (23:43):
You're not going to know what you're needing to do for
him.
You're not going to share withthe people that you need to
share with.
You're not going to act the waythat you are supposed to
because you're not consistent.
Holli (23:53):
And I think we can say that, because it's not that
we're doing that all the time.
What we've discovered is thatwe were not doing that.
You know, you figure out whatyou've been doing wrong, you
know, and he's so merciful andit's not, it doesn't necessarily
mean that right now we'reexactly where we need to be.
Calvin (24:14):
I can't.
Holli (24:15):
I'll never feel like I'm where I need to be.
Calvin (24:18):
You know, with running, with business, with our
relationship, with God, with ourrelationship with God, running
and business, all those thingsthat are kind of like the kind
of focal points of our liferight now, every single one of
those.
It doesn't matter what markyou're at, you always feel like
there's another mark that youneed to go to.
So you can't ever getdiscouraged.
You have to give yourself gracethat when you're like, oh man,
I wish I was closer to God.
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Well, how were you 10 years ago?
Were you not close to God?
How your fitness level Were you?
How were you that many yearsago?
You know, and you know, it'slike well, did you decline or
did you actually grow?
Did you actually advance fromtwo months ago?
Are you doing thingsconsistently now that you
weren't then?
Give yourself a pat on the back.
(24:58):
Sure, hey, reward yourself.
You know.
Fantastic, you did somethingtoday that you didn't do
yesterday to better yourself.
And you know, and change takestime.
It takes time to grow.
Holli (25:15):
We live in an Amazon world where you know two-day
shipping or things just happeninstantaneously.
You know you can transfer moneylike that to an account, so we
want things to happen fast andinstantly and so when they don't
, we feel like a failure or wejust get lazy about it or we're
bored with it.
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It didn't happen when we wantedto, and then we just go back to
old habits that are killing ourdreams and are killing us,
killing our health.
You know, when I think aboutthat, I think about the things
that we do consistently that arebad for us.
Like, no matter what you'redoing in life, you're being
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consistent.
It's just that you've got to beconsistent in the right things.
I know, six months ago Iconsistently drank Coke Zeros.
Calvin (26:08):
Yeah.
Holli (26:08):
Okay, I'm sorry if you drink Coke Zeros, and maybe that
is not a problem for you, itwas for me.
I was like I really want to noteat and drink things that have
chemicals in them, and so, to me, I was drinking those a lot and
other diet drinks, you know,and so, and that was just six
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months ago, but I wasconsistently doing that and so
when I consistently do something, it's going to have effects on
me, right, and I think thoseeffects are negative.
So I was like I want to dothings consistently that are
going to have positive effectson me, you know, and we really
did change our diet.
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We've changed how we eat, uh,how we even look at food,
because I realized that you canbe addicted to food, just like
people are addicted to drugs andhow food makes you feel.
Calvin (27:04):
There's a lot of food that makes you feel good at the
front and horrible at the back,sure.
And there's a lot of food thatmakes you feel just monotone at
the beginning but has lastingeffects for forever.
So it's like the things thatyou most desire that satisfies
your immediate flesh.
Those things are going to havea negative effect on you in the
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long run and you know, with thesugars and things like that, you
know, obviously that's like the.
Holli (27:32):
We're not nutritionists, we're just saying what's
happening in our lives.
Calvin (27:35):
Yeah, those are the things that drive you to want to
eat something you know, butit's going to have a negative
effect on you and one of thethings I've noticed is that,
with our running, is that thehealthier that we eat, the
cleaner that we eat, the lesssoreness I have after hard
workouts.
Holli (27:52):
And this is a testimony, because we actually went to the
mountains right after Christmasand we had been eating very
clean for a solid, I would say,six months.
Right, yeah, so I mean wedidn't deter at all, and so on
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that trip.
We decided that we were going toindulge in some of the places
that we always go to that arekind of discomfort foods and you
know, like Appleborn and thingslike that, and we had some
desserts and I was reallynervous that it was going to
make me sick to my stomach.
But it didn't make me sick tomy stomach, it had different
effects.
Calvin (28:29):
We could tell that, like our, our body was digesting
things differently.
It didn't.
It wasn't necessarily that itfelt bad, but it did feel
different.
You know it's like unsettled alittle bit.
We stayed consistently.
Holli (28:40):
We ran like we would get up at four, 4.30 in the morning
and run the streets ofGatlinburg.
Calvin (28:47):
Go trying to catch the bears and we were running.
Holli (28:49):
Obviously there's elevation there, okay, so we
were getting some heels and wewere like, hey, you know, let's
use this, we're just going totrain on these heels.
Well, it was really painful andit was so much more painful
than it should have been.
When I was eating cleaner, thesugars that I had eaten had
really, like, given me a lot ofinflammation and that's where my
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pain was coming from, and Iwasn't able to recover.
And I know that even when wecame home, I wasn't able to run,
for I thought taking a day offwas going to work.
It didn't.
I thought two days was going tobe enough.
It was like three days before Icould run again.
And I wasn't injured.
It was just really my bodyreacting to the things that I
had in it.
Calvin (29:32):
Yeah, the outside exposure coming into your body.
But I think that you know like,when it comes to your business
and your relationship withChrist and your fitness journey,
wherever you're at, you reallygot to take the time to really
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enjoy it and love where you'reat and be present in it and
sharing your experience withyour family, with your friends.
It's important that you don'tfeel like you're isolated on an
island.
Share what's going on in yourlife and with your relationship.
Um, it's important that, likeyou don't feel like you're
isolated on an Island, you knowshare what's going on in your
life and with your relationshipwith God, because you never know
what, um, someone else is goingto need to experience or to to
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uh understand something aboutwhat they're going through.
When you share what's going onin your journey and in your
relationship and in your, youknow your fitness.
Holli (30:23):
Don't get so caught up in the end goal that you can't
enjoy where you are.
You know, and enjoying whereyou are helps you to be able to
encourage people where they are.
I know in the fitness classesthat I do some of the women.
You know they may feel a littleshamed or just maybe
discouraged about their fitnesslevel.
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A little shamed or just maybediscouraged about their fitness
level.
But you know we don't come injust being able to do everything
that we want to be able to doand with consistency they're
going to be able to do thethings that they want to do.
But you know, it's a marathon,it's not a sprint.
Calvin (30:58):
Yeah, whenever I'm, like you know, delivering a sermon
or something like that, and I'msaying something that we as a
church need to do, or orencouraging people to act a
certain way, that the Bible iscalling them out to act, I
always say, like this struck mefirst before I delivered to you.
So you know, when you're, whenyou're leading a fitness class
and you're doing a move, you'reable to do it with better form
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maybe, or for more, moreendurance, but you're still
working out harder than you wereit's still hard at a different
level.
So you know where you are withyour relationship with Christ.
It's.
It's still a journey to getcloser, no matter how close or
far you might think you are.
You know like he's always rightthere, right there with you,
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but when you're trying to hearfrom him or you're trying to get
a word from him, it really is.
It's important to understandthat nobody is going to be able
to hear from him for you.
You have to be close to him.
You have to understand thatyou're moving towards that goal.
Holli (32:01):
You have to be consistent in your relationship with him
because, once again, he is veryconsistent with us and always
has been and always will be allthroughout eternity.
Yes, and I think we havefinished our coffees.
Calvin (32:14):
I'm done.
Holli (32:15):
I'm too, and uh, it's been great.
I think you know this is ourfirst episode, so there might be
a little bit more rambling thanuh, hopefully, episode, so
there might be a little bit morerambling than uh, hopefully in
next episodes.
Calvin (32:31):
but, um, give us your feedback, let us know what your
what, what little trinkets yougot from your journeys, like our
coffee mugs.
What do you do to remember your, your outings with your family,
your, your relationships?
Holli (32:37):
the things that you're struggling to be consistent with
or, um, you know that thingsthat have worked for you.
What have you seen change inyour life?
Because you were consistent.
I know that you all havestories and I want to hear them,
so please share them with usand hopefully we can revisit
this conversation again becauseand we can be consistent about
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consistency.
So, until next time, rememberto share hope, share love and
share joy, and we'll see younext time.
Calvin (33:09):
Thanks guys.
I'm Holli and this is Calvin, and welcome to the
Running On Coffee and Christpodcast.
We are so excited to get thisstarted.
It has been a journey and amission on our heart to be able
to start something like this andjust to create community around
three of our favorite things,which is running and coffee and
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Christ, not necessarily in thatorder.
Calvin (00:26):
Disclaimer.
So, yeah, so definitely.
We're so thankful for you alljoining us on this journey and
we look forward to being able toshare some of our experiences
around getting into the sport ofrunning our lifelong journey
from a young childhood for bothof us in our relationship with
Christ, and then, not too manyyears ago, really getting in
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deep on coffee and starting ourown business, opening our own
coffee shop and seeing God movein many different ways with the
employees and the community andwith opportunities, and this is
one of those opportunities wefeel God's leading us towards.
Holli (01:02):
For sure, and so every time that we do this podcast,
we're always going to have ourcup of coffee.
We truly love coffee.
It's not just something that wetry to sell.
The reason that we even wantedto open up a coffee shop is
because we had such a deep lovefor coffee.
Calvin (01:23):
The community.
Holli (01:24):
I mean, it's a healthy love.
It's not creepy weird?
I don't think, do you?
Calvin (01:29):
Yeah, we're not.
We're not too much into all thesugary stuff.
We really like the flavor ofcoffee.
Holli (01:34):
We like we're both drinking Americanos right now,
so just an Americano is espressoand water, so basically just
black coffee.
That is what I drink 99% of thetime.
Calvin (01:46):
I would say I'm probably 85% of the time.
Holli (01:50):
Now, before we opened, I drank a lot of mochas.
I drank a lot of mochas.
Calvin (01:59):
I would explore.
Holli (02:00):
He did.
He would explore when we wentout to places and we loved.
We loved Starbucks for a time.
We don't enjoy it as muchanymore.
We found things there that wedo like, and it's mainly just a
roast profile thing that wedon't like, because everything's
really dark roast and we'relight roast and once you get
used to light roast, then thedark roast seems even just worse
(02:24):
.
Yeah, um, but we would go todifferent coffee shops that was
a fun thing for us to do if wehad a date?
Calvin (02:32):
we went to a coffee shop if we had an event we went to a
coffee shop if we had to travel.
Holli (02:36):
We went to a coffee shop right, we would google, you know
, coffee shops and we found somereally good ones and we found
some ones that were like, oh man, that was they, they miserable.
They, uh, could have done abetter job on that.
And so we were like, well, whydon't we try to do a better job
on that?
and we I say this with allhumility yeah 100 um, we don't
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have it all figured out and wenever will have it all figured
out, but god did place greatpeople in our path, like with
our roasters, with candace andjohn, with foundry roasters, and
um all of our past businessexperiences in our own personal
lives for sure, really led up tothis and I'm sure we'll get
into more of that.
We will, but you see, like atthe time, things that were
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happening in your life, likethis jigsaw puzzle piece and
this jigsaw puzzle piece, andthey just seem like single
pieces.
But now I see that they weremaking a puzzle and it was a
pretty puzzle.
Calvin (03:33):
I think it's pretty puzzle yeah, I do too and I just
want the puzzle to keep gettingbigger and uh, more outreach is
what I mean when I say bigger,um but, that being said, like,
like, we have a lot of storiesthat the last few years, the
last five years, and then 10,and then 20 years, going all the
way back to our childhood withour relationship with Christ,
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sure, you know and then even inhigh school, with you know, some
dabbling that I did in therunning sports.
You know we have a lot ofdifferent histories to be able
to bounce back on and we feellike it's really important for
us to be able to share that withanyone who's willing to listen
and hopefully you would join uson this journey of getting
closer to God, excelling at yoursport and learning about the
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business world, the things thatwe've experienced in our first
two years of being open.
Holli (04:20):
We're babies.
Yeah, we're babies by far.
Calvin (04:23):
And trying to figure out how to navigate the world of
small business and trying tothink how do we grow this?
And having a growth mindset andalso making sure we bring
people along with us.
And it's not just about ustrying to run off and leave our
current situation.
It's us trying to grow ourcommunity and grow our family
and grow our friends and growour employees and really focus
on that.
And we want to hear yourstories too, and we're going to
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really focus on that, but wewant to bring you.
Holli (04:45):
We want to hear your stories too, and we're going to
have guests on here.
God has already laid so manypeople in our heart and they
don't even know it yet, but thatwe want to have on here to
share their testimonies andtheir stories, whether it be
with just their walk with Christor with coffee or with running.
And those are not the onlythree things that we're going to
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talk about, but they arefoundations in our life.
But back to, we're always goingto have our coffee, so we have
a very wide range of coffee cupsthat we have collected over
our—.
Calvin (05:20):
Every trip.
Holli (05:21):
How long have we been married?
Calvin (05:22):
22.
22 years, 22 years yeah.
Holli (05:25):
We've been together 23 years, so you know, a coffee cup
is one of those kinds of thingsthat you can always find it.
No matter what touristdestination you're at, they're
gonna have a coffee cup or ashot glass.
We don't drink alcohol.
So you know, obviously we we'recoffee holics and we're gonna
get coffee cups.
But so, um, we have a wideselection of coffee cups and
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we're like what do we do withthese?
Calvin (05:49):
Yeah, you know, I mean, everybody's got that cabinet.
Yeah, the cabinet that's justoverflowing.
Holli (05:54):
It is and you're like I don't need another mug.
And then you go to a store andyou see another mug and you're
like I have to have that mug.
Calvin (06:00):
And I always worry about , like you're stacking them one,
two and three on top of eachother and you're like which
one's going to fall and breakand ruin a memory.
Holli (06:06):
You know it's like, and I wouldn't say surprisingly, that
has not happened to us.
No, it hasn't.
Calvin (06:09):
And I have one that was cracked, but it was when I was
on a vacation and I came or atrip and a business trip.
Holli (06:29):
And I came back and when I got out of our cups and I was
like, oh my goodness, I rememberthis trip, or I remember, you
know, having this from when Iwas a teenager.
It's just cool memories.
Calvin (06:38):
So today my coffee cup is.
Holli (06:39):
I start my day with a God shot and that's from the Bible
recap.
If you have been following usat all, we are following the
Bible recap.
We do studies on that, but I dostart my day with a God shot.
I try to start my day.
Sometimes I'm ending it with aGod shot.
Calvin (06:57):
Yeah, we were just talking about that.
I haven't done mine yet for theday.
Yeah, and that's just readingthrough the Bible the whole year
, if you want more informationon the Bible recap?
Holli (07:05):
just reach out to us.
Calvin (07:07):
It's just the tool we're using right now in our life,
but mine is actually a Swedishwooden horse on a cut.
But I got this as a memory fora place that my grandparents
took us when I was younger andwe went and visited there and I
had to get this and they bothpassed away.
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But it was such a treat forthem to be able to take us to
this restaurant and it's where Ihad my first Swedish pancake.
He bought us the wooden horsesthat were hand-carved and even
my wife got to meet him beforehe passed away.
He snuck off, you know does hislittle Grandpa Green thing and
he snuck off in the distance andcame back and slid it across
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the table and it's like a littlesurprise, a little treat, and
it's definitely a big memory,this cup right here of my
grandparents.
During this first podcast, wewere trying to figure out what
do we want to talk about, togive you, you know, a lot of
value, not just rambling aboutourselves.
What is it that?
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That where we are at in ourjourney right now, basically
with what we're doing when itcomes to running, when it comes
to our faith and then when itcomes to our business with
coffee, what is our driver, ourtheme?
I guess we talked about it awhole lot here, a lot, a lot,
and that is being consistentcoffee.
Holli (08:24):
What is our driver, our theme?
I guess we've talked about it awhole lot here lately.
Calvin (08:25):
A lot, a lot, and that is being consistent, being
consistent in what you're doing,the goal that you have set
before you.
You plan out the steps, youknow what you're trying to do
and you have to be consistent intaking the actions that are
going to take you to the placethat you want to be.
And running right now has beena big one, probably more so in
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Holly's life, with some longerdistances, some goals that she's
been trying to reach, and thebusiness one has maybe been a
little more of mine where I'vereally tried to figure out some
new ventures and some newopportunities, some new ways of,
uh, of improving our shop, um,on that front.
So you have to obligate the timeyou know, and you have to be
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consistent about that time wewere just talking about, like,
trying to get a run in andsqueeze it in, and you can't
squeeze in a long run.
Holli (09:18):
Yes, it doesn't happen no , and I really needed to go on a
long run today because I'm I'mtraining for another half
marathon and I'm wanting to getmy time down, and so there's
just certain things that you'vegot to do in order to achieve
that goal, and obviously it'snot a life or death situation,
you know, but it is something inmy life that I enjoy doing.
(09:39):
So I was a little frustratedtonight because I didn't have
time to run.
I was only going to get acouple of miles in and and it
frustrated me.
But you do have to have gracewith yourself, you know.
Calvin (09:54):
Yeah, Like I look back at the day and I'm like where
did all the time go?
And it's like every minute feltlike it was occupied, like
there was something that we weredoing during every minute of
the day.
But then you go back and youthink like well, I could have
prioritized a little bitdifferently.
Holli (10:12):
Yes, I could have planned it out a little bit better and
and set myself up for success alittle earlier in the day,
because most of the time thestars are not all going to align
perfectly for you to do exactlyhow you wanted to do it.
And that doesn't mean thatyou're not being consistent I'm
still being, even if I didn't dothe long run.
And when I say long run likemaybe six miles, okay, even if I
didn't do that, I still did two.
Calvin (10:33):
Consistently striving.
You're striving to reach a goaland you know you look back, say
you don't reach the time thatyou want or you don't get the
the speed that you want, or youhave an injury or something like
that that you get bummed aboutand like you look back and
you're like, well, maybe thereare some things that I could
have improved on and I shouldhave done those longer runs
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earlier in the day andprioritize that, because it
would have set me up to be ableto get a better time or just to
be able to to not have as stiffof a body during this next
workout or whatever it is thatyou're trying to do.
Recovery did I go slow enoughin my recovery to be able to set
myself up to run fast during arace?
Holli (11:12):
Because rest is important too.
You have to consistently rest.
Yeah, you do, and the main wordis consistency, and I think,
too, like last year was a reallyhard year for us.
Yeah, I still feel like we'recrawling our way out of 2024.
And it's with so many differentfacets in our life.
Calvin (11:36):
Yeah.
Holli (11:36):
That I feel like God took a magnifying glass and just
like put it on certainsituations and issues in our
life and was like this needs tobe fixed.
Calvin (11:49):
It's like God with a magnifying glass burning the ant
Like he's shining it on you andyou're like yes, god, this
hurts.
Holli (11:55):
It does.
Calvin (11:56):
And I see the light.
And the only way to take careof this is either I got to get
closer to the magnifying glassto get out of that focal range
where I'm closer to you and it'snot going to burn anymore, but
right now there's a burn for thegriefs and woes.
Holli (12:12):
You may be thinking I don't run, it's okay, Because
the thing about running is youcan fill that blank in.
You can be like see, I can sayrunning has taught me
consistency.
Calvin (12:25):
Well, you can take running and make it a blank.
Holli (12:28):
And fill that in, fill that blank in with whatever it
is in your life that God isusing you, using in your life to
teach you about consistency.
Calvin (12:36):
If you're wanting to write a book, you've got to
consistently write in that book.
If you want to teach a Sundayschool class, you've got to
consistently prepare for thatSunday school class.
You know, whatever it is, withyour job, with your career, with
your business ventures, if youare going to grow something
that's been placed on your heart, you have to consistently work
towards that.
You can't just say, okay, I'mgoing to do this and poof, it
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happens.
You know that doesn't happen.
You have to consistently put inthe effort to develop things,
plan things, lay things out.
And I'll give Holly credit.
She has a very forward mind andI'm a very builder mind.
You know like, show me thevision, I'll try to build it.
Holli (13:14):
You know like, and I will say this Like I have that
vision mind, I don't necessarilyhave a great Building line.
That's what God put us togetherDing, Great job, god, you rock.
Calvin (13:28):
Yes, but back on topic, you have to think about it in a
lot of different ways, about thevalue of consistency in your
life.
You consistently go to bed at acertain time to try to get rest
.
Holli (13:42):
We're bad at this?
Yeah, we are.
Calvin (13:43):
But we heard one of our mentors was talking about.
The only way that you can getmore rest is to go to bed early,
because your day is alwaysgoing to start almost at the
same time every day.
You're not going to be able toforce yourself to go to bed in
the early light.
You have to force yourself togo to bed earlier.
So plan your life in accordanceto where you are ready and
prepared to go to bed early.
Holli (14:01):
And it has to be a consistent practice.
I feel like we are making moresteps towards that.
It's not great still, but ithas gotten better.
Like we're not, I mean at theend of the day, it's like you
feel this need of it's me time.
It's like shut down time andit's like I want to watch this
show because it's one thing I'mgetting to do for myself today.
Calvin (14:29):
But I have realized, we really are not watching much at
all.
We don't have a TV in ourbedroom or anything anymore,
it's been removed.
Holli (14:37):
We don't really sit down much in front of the TV at all.
I don't even think that we evensaid hey, we're taking the TV
out of our bedroom.
It was just like it migrated.
We became more focused on otherthings because we were like,
when God gives you hopes anddreams and plans and goals, it's
like how, how do I get there?
And you start reverseengineering.
You know.
(14:57):
It's like okay, if this is theend point, what are the steps
that I have to take to get there?
Point what?
Calvin (15:08):
are the steps that.
Holli (15:08):
I have to take to get there.
What is going to keep me fromreaching that?
And that is something that hasbeen like.
I said God with the magnifyingglass, I feel like he was like
this is keeping you from more,this is keeping you from doing
this, this is keeping you fromdoing that, and it's like okay,
and it's almost overwhelming andand you can be like I suck.
You know, I mean for lack of abetter word.
You can feel shame or justyou're not where you're supposed
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to be and it's like that's notwhat it's about.
And I'm so thankful that wehave a Heavenly Father that is
constantly seeking us out andprodding us and being like, oh
sorry, and being like hey,you're made for more.
Calvin (15:46):
Yeah.
Holli (15:46):
You know you're made for more and I'm ready to give you
more if you're ready for more.
But it's going to take someconsistency.
Calvin (16:01):
And you know this goes so deep when it comes to our
relationship with Christ.
You know, I remember at onepoint when I was younger, I
remember having the phrase in myhead that said I want to
believe what I believe.
And basically I was like tryingto figure out what in the world
do I believe, or was I justbelieving what I was told to
believe?
You know, like I had thisreally deep journey where I was
like do I really truly believethat Jesus Christ is the son of
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God, or do I just believe itbecause someone said that, you
know, and I was like, and I andI did, I believed it, but it's
like, what about the nuances ofit?
What about all these otherthings that are theology in the
Bible, that are theories, youknow, and concepts?
You know?
I'm like, well, do I justbelieve what people say?
And that's when I, like, reallywould start thinking about the
word of God differently.
Um, and it wasn't just aboutseeing familiar verses, but it
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was about finding verses in theBible that God pointed out for
me to learn something throughabout him, about the history,
about how it applies to me in mylife and in our future, and not
necessarily just oh, Irecognize that as that Sunday
school lesson that I heard manyyears ago.
It's not just because it'sfamiliar, it's because I wanted
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it's familiar, it's because Iwanted it to be personal, um and
and and a personal relationshipwith Christ.
It's just, it's indescribable.
You know how, how amazing Godis.
Um, I can, I can know my wifefrom a distance all day long and
I'll think Hey's a pretty ladyover there.
You know, when I was lookingfor someone to date and like
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yeah, but getting closer, I waslike seeing her character really
drew made me draw near to herand want to be closer to her.
You know, closer to you, right,and and being close to you, it
made me want to get even closer,you know and goes back to that
word consistency yeah like whenwe're dating, you consistently
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communicate with one another,right?
Holli (17:49):
Constantly yeah, like, if you talked one time a week, you
might.
Calvin (17:54):
Yeah.
Holli (17:55):
But you talk every day and you build that relationship
even closer.
And so I know, like last yearin our on it.
I'm just gonna be completelyhonest with you 2024 was very
painful for us.
We saw growth, great growth inour business.
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Um, we were just having to havereally painful lessons yeah that
we having to get through andwe're still getting through them
, honestly, yeah, but going backto the consistency, so this
year was really a painful year.
It was hard and we had a lot ofpainful lessons that we had to
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learn, but I really got into myJanuary 1, I got into the Bible
and I'm a pastor's daughter Alot of.
If you know us locally, youknow that I've grown up in
church my whole life.
I think my dad startedpastoring when I was two years
old.
I don't know anything different, and it kind of goes back to
you of you want your ownpersonal relationship with God,
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not just what somebody's toldyou.
And so my dad, though he wasalways really good about
encouraging his church,encouraging us to read our Bible
every day, so that wasingrained in me to read your
Bible every day.
And it wasn't a you have to dothis in order to be this, or it
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wasn't that it was.
He says you want to know God,you want to to be closer to god,
you have to stay in his word.
Well, I would, you know, Iwould read my bible, but I
wasn't consistent about itthrough all those years, and so
january 1, I was like I'm gonnabe consistent this year and I
started the bible recap, whichgoes through it chronologically,
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and so this past year was myfirst time to read through the
Bible fully in my whole life,and I've been in church my whole
life.
I've been a Christian sinceI've been saved since I was 15
years old and I haven't evenread his word.
I'm 39 years old now, so likewhen you really think about that
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but I also think about theconsistency of doing that for a
whole year changed my life.
I agree it completely changed mylife and so and that's when
that word consistency was justit kept coming up and it's like
I felt like he was just sayingsee, see, see, what happens when
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you're, when you're consistent,and it's not that everything's
perfect or that I'm perfect orI've got it all figured out.
I realize that I have nothingfigured out.
Really, I'm completely relianton Him, I really am.
Calvin (20:37):
Yeah.
Holli (20:38):
And you know it's like with our coffee.
We have a lot of people come inand they'll say why is it
different?
It tastes better.
Okay, Now I realize this ispeople's opinions.
Okay, I am not knocking anycoffee shop because if there's a
(20:59):
coffee shop out there, we'regoing to go to it.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
I've dropped the kids off atschool and I went by the coffee
shop in Oneonta and I get anAmericano on my way home because
I'm wanting something.
So we are not snobs.
But people will say what's sodifferent about it?
Well, we try to be reallyconsistent, Like that was
(21:22):
important to us, and you canexplain a little bit about how
we are consistent, like that.
Calvin (21:28):
I think that when you so 100% a lot of our gratitude
towards the coffee that we'reable to serve.
I have to go back to John andCandice, our roasters.
They really took us under theirwing as far as really wanting
to mentor us in a lot of theindustry when it comes to
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producing a good cup of coffee.
Because the concept she laidout before me Candice did one
time she was talking about howthe farmer can pick the cherry
in the perfect season.
The family of the farmer canlay it out and get the perfect
amount of ripeness, fermentation.
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They can turn it at the exacttime on the pads, they can send
it to the washer at the exactright moment.
They can dry it and then bag it, and then the shipping
container could have perfecthumidity conditions all the way
to America.
It could come into America,come straight to the roaster.
The roaster could do a perfectroast on it.
Every single bean is roasted toperfection.
And when it comes to thebarista, and they don't pull
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that shot within a certaintimeframe or within a certain
weight, or within a certaingrind size or within a certain
parameters on their watertemperatures, their grinder
temperatures, the transfers, ifit's not tamped just right any
one of those variables.
If it's not consistentlydesigned to optimize the
extraction on that bean, thecustomer will experience a bad
(22:55):
cup of coffee.
So it doesn't matter ifeveryone upstream does exactly
what they're supposed to.
It doesn't matter if everythinggoes perfect.
If you don't perform your taskto perfection consistently, your
customer is going to experiencea bad experience.
They're going to have a bad cupof coffee, and I was thinking
about that.
You know, like our parentscould have done anything they
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could to keep us in church, ourcommunity, you could be raised
in the Bible belt.
You could be raised anywhere,like where, where, where you are
just exposed to God, likeyou're exposed to the Holy Word,
and you could have the perfectenvironment where everyone
that's around you is reallytrying to help you to grow
closer to God.
But if you don't actuallyconsistently seek God's face,
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you are not going to know Hiswill.
Holli (23:42):
That's right.
Calvin (23:43):
You're not going to know what you're needing to do for
him.
You're not going to share withthe people that you need to
share with.
You're not going to act the waythat you are supposed to
because you're not consistent.
Holli (23:53):
And I think we can say that, because it's not that
we're doing that all the time.
What we've discovered is thatwe were not doing that.
You know, you figure out whatyou've been doing wrong, you
know, and he's so merciful andit's not, it doesn't necessarily
mean that right now we'reexactly where we need to be.
Calvin (24:14):
I can't.
Holli (24:15):
I'll never feel like I'm where I need to be.
Calvin (24:18):
You know, with running, with business, with our
relationship, with God, with ourrelationship with God, running
and business, all those thingsthat are kind of like the kind
of focal points of our liferight now, every single one of
those.
It doesn't matter what markyou're at, you always feel like
there's another mark that youneed to go to.
So you can't ever getdiscouraged.
You have to give yourself gracethat when you're like, oh man,
I wish I was closer to God.
(24:38):
Well, how were you 10 years ago?
Were you not close to God?
How your fitness level Were you?
How were you that many yearsago?
You know, and you know, it'slike well, did you decline or
did you actually grow?
Did you actually advance fromtwo months ago?
Are you doing thingsconsistently now that you
weren't then?
Give yourself a pat on the back.
(24:58):
Sure, hey, reward yourself.
You know.
Fantastic, you did somethingtoday that you didn't do
yesterday to better yourself.
And you know, and change takestime.
It takes time to grow.
Holli (25:15):
We live in an Amazon world where you know two-day
shipping or things just happeninstantaneously.
You know you can transfer moneylike that to an account, so we
want things to happen fast andinstantly and so when they don't
, we feel like a failure or wejust get lazy about it or we're
bored with it.
(25:35):
It didn't happen when we wantedto, and then we just go back to
old habits that are killing ourdreams and are killing us,
killing our health.
You know, when I think aboutthat, I think about the things
that we do consistently that arebad for us.
Like, no matter what you'redoing in life, you're being
(25:58):
consistent.
It's just that you've got to beconsistent in the right things.
I know, six months ago Iconsistently drank Coke Zeros.
Calvin (26:08):
Yeah.
Holli (26:08):
Okay, I'm sorry if you drink Coke Zeros, and maybe that
is not a problem for you, itwas for me.
I was like I really want to noteat and drink things that have
chemicals in them, and so, to me, I was drinking those a lot and
other diet drinks, you know,and so, and that was just six
(26:30):
months ago, but I wasconsistently doing that and so
when I consistently do something, it's going to have effects on
me, right, and I think thoseeffects are negative.
So I was like I want to dothings consistently that are
going to have positive effectson me, you know, and we really
did change our diet.
(26:50):
We've changed how we eat, uh,how we even look at food,
because I realized that you canbe addicted to food, just like
people are addicted to drugs andhow food makes you feel.
Calvin (27:04):
There's a lot of food that makes you feel good at the
front and horrible at the back,sure.
And there's a lot of food thatmakes you feel just monotone at
the beginning but has lastingeffects for forever.
So it's like the things thatyou most desire that satisfies
your immediate flesh.
Those things are going to havea negative effect on you in the
(27:27):
long run and you know, with thesugars and things like that, you
know, obviously that's like the.
Holli (27:32):
We're not nutritionists, we're just saying what's
happening in our lives.
Calvin (27:35):
Yeah, those are the things that drive you to want to
eat something you know, butit's going to have a negative
effect on you and one of thethings I've noticed is that,
with our running, is that thehealthier that we eat, the
cleaner that we eat, the lesssoreness I have after hard
workouts.
Holli (27:52):
And this is a testimony, because we actually went to the
mountains right after Christmasand we had been eating very
clean for a solid, I would say,six months.
Right, yeah, so I mean wedidn't deter at all, and so on
(28:15):
that trip.
We decided that we were going toindulge in some of the places
that we always go to that arekind of discomfort foods and you
know, like Appleborn and thingslike that, and we had some
desserts and I was reallynervous that it was going to
make me sick to my stomach.
But it didn't make me sick tomy stomach, it had different
effects.
Calvin (28:29):
We could tell that, like our, our body was digesting
things differently.
It didn't.
It wasn't necessarily that itfelt bad, but it did feel
different.
You know it's like unsettled alittle bit.
We stayed consistently.
Holli (28:40):
We ran like we would get up at four, 4.30 in the morning
and run the streets ofGatlinburg.
Calvin (28:47):
Go trying to catch the bears and we were running.
Holli (28:49):
Obviously there's elevation there, okay, so we
were getting some heels and wewere like, hey, you know, let's
use this, we're just going totrain on these heels.
Well, it was really painful andit was so much more painful
than it should have been.
When I was eating cleaner, thesugars that I had eaten had
really, like, given me a lot ofinflammation and that's where my
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pain was coming from, and Iwasn't able to recover.
And I know that even when wecame home, I wasn't able to run,
for I thought taking a day offwas going to work.
It didn't.
I thought two days was going tobe enough.
It was like three days before Icould run again.
And I wasn't injured.
It was just really my bodyreacting to the things that I
had in it.
Calvin (29:32):
Yeah, the outside exposure coming into your body.
But I think that you know like,when it comes to your business
and your relationship withChrist and your fitness journey,
wherever you're at, you reallygot to take the time to really
(29:53):
enjoy it and love where you'reat and be present in it and
sharing your experience withyour family, with your friends.
It's important that you don'tfeel like you're isolated on an
island.
Share what's going on in yourlife and with your relationship.
Um, it's important that, likeyou don't feel like you're
isolated on an Island, you knowshare what's going on in your
life and with your relationshipwith God, because you never know
what, um, someone else is goingto need to experience or to to
(30:14):
uh understand something aboutwhat they're going through.
When you share what's going onin your journey and in your
relationship and in your, youknow your fitness.
Holli (30:23):
Don't get so caught up in the end goal that you can't
enjoy where you are.
You know, and enjoying whereyou are helps you to be able to
encourage people where they are.
I know in the fitness classesthat I do some of the women.
You know they may feel a littleshamed or just maybe
discouraged about their fitnesslevel.
(30:44):
A little shamed or just maybediscouraged about their fitness
level.
But you know we don't come injust being able to do everything
that we want to be able to doand with consistency they're
going to be able to do thethings that they want to do.
But you know, it's a marathon,it's not a sprint.
Calvin (30:58):
Yeah, whenever I'm, like you know, delivering a sermon
or something like that, and I'msaying something that we as a
church need to do, or orencouraging people to act a
certain way, that the Bible iscalling them out to act, I
always say, like this struck mefirst before I delivered to you.
So you know, when you're, whenyou're leading a fitness class
and you're doing a move, you'reable to do it with better form
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maybe, or for more, moreendurance, but you're still
working out harder than you wereit's still hard at a different
level.
So you know where you are withyour relationship with Christ.
It's.
It's still a journey to getcloser, no matter how close or
far you might think you are.
You know like he's always rightthere, right there with you,
(31:44):
but when you're trying to hearfrom him or you're trying to get
a word from him, it really is.
It's important to understandthat nobody is going to be able
to hear from him for you.
You have to be close to him.
You have to understand thatyou're moving towards that goal.
Holli (32:01):
You have to be consistent in your relationship with him
because, once again, he is veryconsistent with us and always
has been and always will be allthroughout eternity.
Yes, and I think we havefinished our coffees.
Calvin (32:14):
I'm done.
Holli (32:15):
I'm too, and uh, it's been great.
I think you know this is ourfirst episode, so there might be
a little bit more rambling thanuh, hopefully, episode, so
there might be a little bit morerambling than uh, hopefully in
next episodes.
Calvin (32:31):
but, um, give us your feedback, let us know what your
what, what little trinkets yougot from your journeys, like our
coffee mugs.
What do you do to remember your, your outings with your family,
your, your relationships?
Holli (32:37):
the things that you're struggling to be consistent with
or, um, you know that thingsthat have worked for you.
What have you seen change inyour life?
Because you were consistent.
I know that you all havestories and I want to hear them,
so please share them with usand hopefully we can revisit
this conversation again becauseand we can be consistent about
(33:00):
consistency.
So, until next time, rememberto share hope, share love and
share joy, and we'll see younext time.
Calvin (33:09):
Thanks guys.
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