April 2, 2025 • 39 mins
We explore the powerful concept of knowing your "why" and how it transforms your approach to life's challenges and opportunities.
• Understanding your why provides clarity and motivation in difficult situations
• Simple acts of service create lasting memories and meaningful impact
• Martin Luther King Jr's legacy demonstrates the power of living for something greater than yourself
• Reading the Bible as history gives deeper appreciation for the freedom we have in Christ
• Our ministry follows wherever our feet go, not just in church settings
• Creating community spaces can serve others in meaningful ways
• Jesus remains our ultimate "why," giving purpose to everything we do
"Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory, but in lowliness of mind, let each esteem other better than themselves." - Philippians 2:3
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody and welcome to episode 11.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome, welcome, welcome Recording again in the
coffee shop.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yes, this is probably going to be a shorter episode,
I would say, because we've justhad some time constraints, but I
think God knows exactly whatwe're supposed to say today,
what we're supposed to talkabout, and it's going to be good
.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yep, I'm excited about it.
We got our cups of coffee today, even though it's a little warm
outside for the first time.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm always going to drink coffee, coffee, and we
just got done running yeah, wegot done running a little over
five miles and it was so muggyoutside.
Oh my goodness like I just feltlike as soon as I walked out
there, I felt like moisture justpop up on my body I know I'm
still sweating and I'm gonna sitand drink hot coffee, but I
love it.
It's like the ultimate comfortand treat after I've ran.
Because I love coffee that much, I'm using my leopard cup.
(00:45):
I believe my kids got me thiscup, or my sister, I can't
remember.
Somebody gifted me this cup,though.
Because I love leopard,anything leopard.
When I was 16, I had a Mustangand I got like furry leopard
seat covers steering wheel covercover everything was leopard
and I've always loved it yep, ohwell, not just leopard, but
(01:08):
animal prints, you know no, Iknow leopard, I do like animal
prints, but leopard, a lot of, alot of animal prints, but
leopard mainly.
Yep, so we're drinking somegreat coffee that our team made
us.
They're in there working likecrazy.
It's been really busy in theshop today and we're so thankful
yep, it's been good.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yep, our customers have been in and out all day and
um.
Employees have been all happyand go lucky it's been fun, it's
been a fun day.
Uh, you are my sunshine is whatit says thank you, yeah, oh
well, you're welcome you setthat one up, didn't you?
May have okay, yeah, but I lovea good cup of coffee any time
of the day.
When's your time to drink a cupof coffee that you like the
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most?
In the morning or at night?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Every time of day.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Every time of day.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Every time of day.
So I'm going to say I'm justgoing to pick a rando number and
I'm going to say at 9 o'clockam I love to drink?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
song five o'clock somewhere right, but we're going
to make it about coffee?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, it's about coffee.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, okay, all right .
Well, so today, our um, ourthought, uh, for what we want to
talk about is your, why?
Um you know there's a lot ofreasons why we do things in life
and there's a lot of reasonswhy we go on different
adventures.
We we try to tackle, um, youknow, business ventures and jobs
and exploring different thingsthat intrigue us, you know like
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coffee.
originally it was what intriguedme and I got kind of geeked out
on why coffee tastes so good tome, you know, and started
exploring flavor profiles andstuff just on my own.
And my why was just to satisfysome curiosity.
But why did it continue to grow?
Because I developed a passionfor it, you know, and that
ultimately kind of led throughyou know, your desire to start a
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business.
It kind of combined it togetherand then here we are at
Sharecroppers Coffee.
So it really has been aninteresting journey.
How just exploring somethingbecause I was curious about it
turned into a passion thatturned into a venture that
turned into a lifestyle andturned into an opportunity.
You know, um, but what's yourwhy?
On a lot of things, you know,because we talk about running,
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we talk about coffee and we talkabout christ.
Why do we serve christ and whydo we run?
Uh, just kind of hitting onthose things like what's your
why?
You know, just to think aboutit and kind of reaffirm it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I think when
you know your why, it just givesyou, uh, just a better drive
and passion for whatever it isthat you're doing.
You know, because it's veryeasy to just get really
complacent in life and, beforeyou know it, you're kind of
floating through.
Yeah, because I know what thatfeels like when I don't really
know why I am doing something.
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It's like when I was in highschool, I struggled with math so
much, like like so, so so much,and I didn't know why I was
doing some of the things that Iwas doing.
Like when I'm trying to figureout these problems, I'm like why
, why is it this way?
Why am I having to do this totry to figure out this?
You know, and maybe because Ididn't understand the why, it
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was a huge mental block for me.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Because later on, on, once I got to college, I
excelled in math.
I don't know, a light bulb wentoff.
But um, I think when you knowyour why it just it makes
everything clear for you.
Yeah, because, and it makes itwin, because it's going to be
hard.
Anything that you do in life,at some point it's going to be
hard and it makes that so mucheasier when you know your why.
It helps you to be able to pushthrough.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You're able to take the moments where there is a
struggle.
There's always a strugglebetween the I don't know, and I
do know there's always astruggle, a learning struggle.
A lot of times that's whereyou're going to get frustrated.
It can be easy to drop off andbe like I don't know If and be
like, well, I don't know, Idon't know, but if your, why is
to accomplish a goal of learningsomething or doing something?
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the struggle is worth it if youkeep your eye on that marker.
I was talking about this, theconcept, with our son the other
day, with Jude, about theeducation system, with the way
that they test.
They train the kids to learnthe way that they're going to
test so that they can make surethey're able to monitor what
those tests are.
But we were talking about likenon-traditional teaching methods
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where, like a student will say,for this quarter your project
is to pick a business ventureand you tell me what that is and
the student will be like, okay,I want to build a commercial
bridge.
And then that student has todevelop a business model and
business plan building you knowschematics for it and during
that quarter they have to learnthe skills that they would need
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to be able to do that.
So their math would be orientedaround geometry and then
finance and things like that tobe able to accomplish it based
on economics.
But then someone else'sbusiness venture might be around
developing a cure for cancerand so that's going to be like
more of your science type math.
You know things with withchemicals and compounds and
things like that, so you'regoing to have different math
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needed for different stations oflife.
So your why you learn that maththat you need is based on what
your.
Why is your?
Goal is yeah and they foundthat a lot of students learn
better that way.
Not every, every student,obviously Right, but I just
thought that was intriguing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It is intriguing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
To think about.
But our why, like for a lot ofthings, why do we want to go to
church?
You know, a lot of people saylike, well, I'll go to church
when I have my heart right, whenI feel like I can be
comfortable walking through thatdoor, you know.
But your why is actually tobuild a relationship with God.
That doesn't mean that he wantsyou to be perfect before you
come into his presence.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
He wants you to be in his presence so that he can
help you get closer to him andunderstand how much we do need
him.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's a revelation of what he did for us, how much it
matters to actually believe it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's an obedience thing too.
I believe that he wanted us tobe for like-minded believers to
be able to come together.
We need that support system,but ultimately, it's about
setting that time aside andsaying God, I'm going to clear
out everything that I'm doing.
I'm not going to be thinkingabout my work, I'm not going to
be thinking about this or that.
I'm going to come into yourhouse and just focus on you.
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And it's so valuable.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's putting our relationship with him above any
awkwardness that we feel aboutourselves.
And maybe I was going to.
We were going to talk aboutthis scripture later on, but I
think maybe now is a good timeto talk about it.
We had looked at Philippians 2,verse 3.
It says Let nothing be donethrough strife or vainglory, but
in lowliness of mind, let eachesteem other better than
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themselves.
And the reason why I wanted togo ahead and maybe talk about it
was because it says it'stalking to the early church in
Philippi and the verse beforethat says fulfill ye me my joy,
that ye be like-minded, havingthe same love, being of one
accord and of one mind.
You know, when you think aboutselflessness, when you think
about doing something for others, you're not going to be aware
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of what others need, unlessyou're able to focus on someone
else above yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So I have this coffee brewing method that is a
percolator method.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't know if y'all if you see the video or the
image of it method.
That, um is a percolator method.
I don't know if y'all if yousee the video or the the image
of it, but it's a percolator andit's like a ceramic outside.
It's got a big hollow core andit's got a basket with a tube
going down to the bottom.
So when you boil the water andthe water gets hot enough, the
water gets shoved up through thetube, through pressure yes um
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and it.
It sprays out on top of thegrinds and this is a brewing
method that your grandmother umit's the only one.
She's the only one that she didlater on have like just your
regular, like mr coffee yeah,just regular drip coffee yeah
maker, but but this was the onethat I remembered the most,
because she would make thecoffee in the morning and then,
once it was made, the waterwasn't sitting on those grounds
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the whole time.
Um, it wasn't but her.
Why, in my opinion, like whyshe used it, was because it was
so easy to reheat the coffee.
All you had to do was she hadthe old gas heater, you know gas
fire stove, and you just hearthat when you hear that igniter
ticking, you knew that somethinggood was about to happen.
You know the flames would flameup and all she'd have to do is,
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as soon as she saw that thingperking, she knew it was boiling
again and she'd turn it rightback off.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And having to grab the handle with a towel.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, the towel, because it would be so stinking
hot and the fire coming up fromaround the outside of it too.
Just the whole thing would behot.
But if you ever went over toher house in the morning, while
it was still kind of a breakfasttime, even sometimes towards
lunch, if you ever walked inthere and you started talking to
her or striking up aconversation, she would lean
towards the stove, her bodywould naturally go towards the
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stove, because you were thereand she had something that could
be heated.
She had something that could becooked.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
She's always looking for a way to serve, to serve
others.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And you're going to get a hot cup of coffee.
Um, even if it was five hours,four hours, you know however old
it was, um, and it had beenreheated three or four times, it
doesn't matter, she was goingto have you a hot cup of coffee
that morning, on a chillymorning, and I remember so many
times going over there and andworking for her.
She'd have little honey, dolist things, and I'd go over
there and I'd I had, with zeroexpectation obviously, but, um,
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it reached a point where she'dwant to pay me or something like
that I'd be like no, don't,don't pay me, just just feed me,
you know, because, because Iknew she was anyways she's gonna
feed me anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Always gonna have bacon and eggs still left over
from breakfast, sitting on thecounter with biscuits yeah, oh
my goodness, I would love a mom.
All biscuit right now yeah it'dbe so good.
And then she would also justalways have the have the cast
iron skillet over there with thegrease in it and she could
always fire it up and startcooking something else.
And when she would make thosefried eggs and she would just
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like she would spoon the greaseon top of it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And so she would never flip them she would just
spoon it on top of them so thatthe top of it would cook and it
would be a soft fried egg or ahard fried.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
however, you liked it you know.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
however, you liked it .
You know, and she'd always askyou how do you want your?
Egg yeah you know and she everytime, no matter what it was
like perfect, because shehovered over it while she's
talking to you.
And my goodness, that's suchgood memories you know, because
it was all about building arelationship and serving others.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, and you know when you think about it.
I know that my mama wasn'tsitting there thinking what is
my why?
What is my why?
What is my why I am doing this?
But but she was intentionalabout what she was doing and you
knew that if you went to herhouse, that you were going to be
cared for.
Yeah, like you just even if youdidn't even know what you
needed to be cared for it about.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's like she knew yeah what you needed, but it's
well, she had a way of pickingyour brain while she was talking
to you.
True, you know she was talkingto you and she was just picking
up on things.
I did.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I did use this little book because we were talking
about our why.
Our why has always been we justwant to help people, whatever
it is like okay, with coffee, Iwant to help you with coffee,
with running, I want to help youwith running and I really have
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you know at church and thingslike that.
So we have that, um, I guess,spirit inside of us that we want
to serve, but um, we went toMemphis.
It was actually been right at ayear ago.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know what If you haven't ever been to Memphis, go
to Memphis.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I actually was sitting here thinking I was like
, let's go back, galvin.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's go back, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, let's go back, let's go ahead and plan it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, it was so good.
It really was.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It was just for a weekend like a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was an unexpected, really good trip.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, we went there because we were taking our
daughter to see a Broadway playup there, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I think it's called the.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Orpheum.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Theater.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It was a great experience, but so while we were
there, we were like, hey, wedefinitely want to go to oh gosh
.
Um, oh gosh, it just left mesun records or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Sun studio, yes where uh elvis recorded and julie
lewis and all them um that wasfantastic experience.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Graceland right.
I'm sorry if I'm like burstingyour nose bubble, I'm not a fan.
We actually stayed at thegraceland hotel and it was okay,
it was like on the crappy sideof town.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yes, I didn't like't like it, but some studios like
it's such a small studio butit's so rich in history, oh my
gosh.
I mean you were only in likejust a couple of rooms, yeah,
but it was just saturated andseeped in culture.
I just feel like you can feelit.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That and then also like, which was my favorite?
Hands down, and when we go back, I would really like to take my
parents, because I know that mydad would absolutely love this
too, but we went to the LorraineHotel where Martin Luther King
Jr was murdered, and that'swhere the National Museum the
Civil Rights Museum is.
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And I've been to the one inBirmingham.
The Birmingham one is greatguys, If you have not been.
I highly encourage you toplease go.
It's so good and then uh I wantto go to the one in this, this
state, you know, uh, inmontgomery I haven't been to
that one yet, but uh, so I havea bucket list of wanting to go
to all of those.
But when we went there and ourkids loved it too, and I know
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that may sound weird.
That's like oh, you're going tothis place where someone was
killed or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But you know I want my kids to understand well, the
conversations that we were ableto have with our kids after um,
after we visited and wentthrough there, like the, the
converse, the conversations Ihad with l, were just so
innocent, you know, like she'sjust sees these pictures of
these people being abused, youknow, or honestly seeing uh
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photographs of um the ku kluxklan and stuff and she's like
mom, what is that like?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
why are they wearing that and why are they being mean
to these people?
These are crucial conversationsthat you can have with your
children yeah when they're young, you know, and and let them
know that this was wrong youknow, and just going back all
the way to the roots you know ofof slavery, um, but anyway,
yeah, going on.
I just appreciate so much whatmartin luther king jr, the
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sacrifice that he made, like Ithink he knew his why oh, the
man certainly knew his why anduh, you can't go through there
and not be moved, um, but webought this little book when we
were there and it just hasdifferent quotes by him in it,
and I want to also segue withthis with I do not lift any man
up, he was just a man.
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I think, he did some importantwork and he was definitely
special, you know, and God usedhim in a pivotal time, but he
wasn't a perfect man.
Nobody is, you know.
So I don't lift anybody uphigher than jesus or god that's
right but, um, he did say somereally amazing things I think
about in the short amount oftime that he lived his life how
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old was he again when he died?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
40 yeah, in his 40s 40 maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Wow, I shouldn't have this, but that's crazy because
I'm older.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I want to look it up.
Okay, you?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
you read that okay, so yeah, look it up for me, so
one of the uh quotes that stoodout to me and it kind of just
went with calvin kind of had afeeling of what we needed to
talk about today, and then I sawthis quote and I was like, hey,
I just read this quote and Ithink this would be great, um,
but it life's most persistentand urgent question is what are
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you doing for others?
He was 39 years old, 39 yearsold.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm older than him.
I'm so too short.
I always assumed he was olderthan that what he accomplished
in his 39 years is absolutelyamazing.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Wow, I know and I think about how much we've
missed out on him not being heretoo, oh yeah.
But he really was about thecause and he was like what are
you doing for others?
And I would like to questionyou all with that what are you
doing for others?
And I think about even in thelittle things that we do, calvin
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, like for instance, when wejust ran, and it's okay to do
things for your health and youknow that's a great why, you
know, but being able to takesomething that you're already
doing.
One of the reasons I starteddoing fitness classes is because
I did have people ask me hey,what are you doing?
Because they saw that I waskind of getting in shape a
little bit.
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You know, they're like what areyou doing?
I would tell them and I waslike why don't I take what I'm
already doing and share it?
with others, invite them intothat space.
That I'm already doing.
If I'm already working out inthe mornings, then why not open
it up where other people can.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, we're already doing the Bible recap too, so
why not share that?
Yes, which is exactly the sameconcept.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
So it's not like I'm sitting here trying to reinvent
the wheel and like come up withthese things.
It's like I'm doing this and itworks.
Number one I want to sharethings that I know that works
with people, and so I definitelywant to share the Bible recap
and 100%.
I want to share Jesus.
He works, guys.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He works 100%.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The closer that we've gotten with God and His Word
and understood how it all wrapsaround itself, around each other
.
It's mind-boggling that we'vebeen Christians for as long as
we have, and it's likeconstantly.
His mercies are renewed everyday.
In His Word he's revealingstuff to us constantly.
You never learn everythingthere is about God, because it's
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just so much.
He's so complex, but yet hecomes to us in simple ways you
know, and it's like I wastelling you, um, the message
that I delivered Sunday, likeGod completely took the message
that I had been studying andplanning and preparing for that
whole week, just thinking aboutit, you know and and he just
took it from me right before Igot up there to preach and, um,
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I was thankful that myfather-in-law, your, your dad,
uh, followed the Lord and prayedover me and I was like, yes,
okay, I completely understandthat that was for me, and God
put an entirely differentmessage on me and I'm just
thankful that that he was.
I was humble enough to actuallyhear that.
You know, because we get sotied up and this is what I
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planned, this is what I planned.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm prepared for this .
This is what I planned.
This is what I planned.
I'm prepared for this.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
This is what I know, but but my why isn't to deliver
a fantastic sermon?
My why is to deliver what godhas for me to deliver at that
moment?
Yes, you know, and um samething with all the people in our
history.
Uh, martin luther king.
You know um billy graham Graham, other leaders of the Christian
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movement in America throughouthistory.
You know, all we can do is praythat every leader has the
humbleness in their service tobe doing it for more than just
themselves.
Right, if we do things forourselves, it's all vanity.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It sure is, and like well, you've received your
reward at that point.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Instantly.
That's it.
Instant gratification.
Okay, you got your reward, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But think about when you're thinking about other
people and the reach that thathas.
And it's not that you're doingthings to get rewarded.
You're not.
I don't but know your why yourwhy you're doing something.
Okay, even this.
We were having thisconversation like why do you
read your Bible?
If someone asked you, calvin,why do you read your Bible, what
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would you say?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right off the cuff to know the God that loves me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Right.
So and that might seem like abroad answer, but truly Okay so
recently it's just come to myattention that I feel like we as
believers, or as the church,really don't know our Bibles.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like we might.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
it's easy to try to take the Bible when you're
reading it and apply it towhatever is going on in your
life and you're like God isspeaking to me about this and it
just happens to be what you'regoing through, and I'm not
saying that he doesn't do that,because he is so merciful and so
graceful and he knows what weneed when we need it.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
But it becomes a habit.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It does, and a lot of times we haven't ever just
really gotten in there andstudied the word like as a
history book, you know, like ifyou were a student of the Bible
and know his word.
So many people haven't read theOld Testament and if you have
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not read the Old Testament andif you don't think that Jesus is
in the Old Testament, then youtruly haven't read your.
Bible.
He's throughout it.
Oh yeah, god the Father, godthe Son and God the Holy Spirit,
then you truly haven't readyour Bible.
He's throughout it.
God the Father, God the Son andGod the Holy Spirit.
If you believe in the Trinity,then you know that he is
throughout the Word.
And so you know, like, why do Ineed to know about the judges?
Why do I need to know about thekings?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You need to know where you came from.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's just like with American history we need to know
where we came from.
It's just like with Americanhistory we need to know where we
came from.
If we didn't know that we had,that there was the Boston Tea
Party and we were declaring ourindependence from Britain, like
what if we didn't know any ofthose things?
And there would be noappreciation for the freedom
that we do have right.
So, like when you read the OldTestament, you have a 100%
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appreciation.
When you read the Old Testament, you have a 100% appreciation
for the freedom that we do havein Christ.
That when he said, it isfinished what that really meant.
It wasn't that?
Oh, I died, I'm done, it was.
I fulfilled all the law thatwas in that Old Testament.
Because, guys, we could notmeet the standard.
God has a standard that is sohigh that we cannot approach it,
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and Jesus approached it for us.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's right.
There's been a lot of times inum in my life where I've often,
like my relationship with Christgrowing up uh, you know looked
at it and reevaluated it andsaid is is, am I where I need to
be?
You know um.
You question am I?
Am I as close as I should havebeen by now?
You know, and, uh, to an extentyou kind of feel bad when
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you're like man.
I should know this, or I shouldhave the faith to be able to do
this task.
That's in front of me you knowand not have fear, and not have
doubt.
You know, and uh, but those arethe kinds of things that Satan
wants to make you feel bad about.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
When you can't go back and change where you've
been.
But you can affect today.
Yes, you can affect yourtomorrow by your actions of
today.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And we've talked about that.
We've talked about thatrecently.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
yeah, but when it comes to your walk with Christ,
or the things that you are doingin your daily life, the
actionable steps that you aredoing in your daily life, the
actionable steps that you aretaking in your life today, you
can actually say am I doing itfor myself or am I doing it for
others?
Am I doing it for myself or amI doing it for God?
You know, the greatest of allcommandments was love the Lord,
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your God, with all your heart,with all your soul and with all
your mind.
And the second is, just likeunto the first love your brother
as yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know, if you want what's best for yourself, then
you should want what's best foryour brother.
Right and sometimes that meansputting them first.
If you want what's best for God, you know, then that means
you're putting him above yourdesires.
It's important that when we doreevaluate or we do look at what
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we're currently doing in ourlife, you have to compare it to,
not the other things of thisworld, because there's a lot of
gurus out there.
Sure, they say do these fivesteps.
We were just talking about thisthe other day.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh my gosh.
Yes, there's like a post onsome running fitness.
Especially with fitness.
It'll be like talking aboutthis the other day.
There's like a post on on somerunning fitness, like if you
want to lose all those, if youcan't lose your belly fat, it's
because you need to do thesefive things and it's just.
It's bogus junk.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm sorry it is have a six-pack do these movements
and it's like no, it's so muchmore than that you know, it's
more than just doing a fewcrunches it's consistency, yeah,
um, but.
But when it comes down to likethe actionable steps that we
take, you really got to haveintention about it.
And, um, if, if I was to sithere and say, okay, today I am
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going to only think of others,more than likely I'm gonna mess
up but if I say but if I saytoday I want to just serve you,
god, he's going to putactionable things in front of
you for you to take action on.
that could become second natureto you.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yes, and you need to have your eyeballs on to know
when those opportunities arethere.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's just part of your personality, the character
that God is building up insideof you because you want to be
close to him, that you will havethe eyes and the mind of Christ
.
Yes, up inside of you, becauseyou want to be close to him,
that you will have the eyes andthe mind of Christ.
Yes, you know.
Um, I mean obviously you know acup of coffee and a percolator
sitting on a stove is just asmall thing, but to me right now
, looking back on it, it's hugefor my memory of her legacy of
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service, a memory of of the.
I just see her personality whenI look at this brewing, this
percolator, right here.
I see her character, I see her,I hear her voice.
Yes, I smell her house.
I feel her hands, yep, yep, andlike when I would hug her and I
would feel that little wrinklein her neck in the back when I
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would hug and I would hug tightit would kind of curl up and she
had that soft skin that wouldkind of curl up, like I feel
that yes when I look at this.
So the the things that you do topeople nowadays that make them
feel loved will be so much morelonger lasting than anything you
ever do for yourself right youalways say that people are going
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to remember how they feel.
Uh, what's that thing, thatthat phrase?
People will always they thatpeople are going to remember how
they feel.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
What's that phrase?
They're not always going toremember the things you've
accomplished or what you've done, but they will always remember
how you made them feel.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
How you made them feel when you were in their life
.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
yeah, yes, you can really take everything and
figure out your why on it I wasthinking about.
I mean, obviously we can lookat why, ryan, you know, or
whatever, but I'm not, I'm notgonna broach out on that one,
but let's talk about, like, evenat our church, like we have
this thing called oasis and likewe start a new quarter tonight
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actually.
So we take it by every threemonths but we cover um, like we
have a series of questions andit can always be like anywhere
from 60 to 75 questions, andevery class, even the kids learn
the answers to these questions.
Because it also and it's likewhy, why are you making
everybody?
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Well, okay, it's something fora family to talk about at home,
right?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Because they're all learning the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Because a lot of times, like you know, you might
have your teen class and youradult class and your kids class
and a grandma class and whatever, and they might all be learning
all these different things,which is fine, but it's like
this one thing everybody islearning and it's a talking
point, it's something that theycan study together, be on the
same playing field with it, andat the end of that quarter, and
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everybody has their own lessonsstill in their classroom.
But everybody is also doingthis along with it.
And the whole purpose of thatwas number one, that people
would know their Bible.
And we've had so many peoplecome up to us and say I have
learned so much about the Biblethrough Oasis, and at the end of
that quarter we all cometogether and the classes compete
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against each other and it'sjust fun.
We have buzzers, you know, andthese kids are able to compete
with these adults as well.
And it's hiding that word intheir heart and it may be they
might be memorizing things atsome point.
But, guys, we've been doingthis for probably maybe five
years.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't know, and so some things are repeating
something you repeat it over and, over and over again.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It gets in your head.
And let me tell you somethingwhen you know and I just read
about this this morning when jluh stuck the the tent, uh, the
stake in his in cicero's templethis was a woman that helped
defeat an army because, um, shewas sneaky and she took out an
enemy, uh, and she drove a tentstake through his temple while
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he was asleep.
She lured him to her tent withand warm milk and he went to
sleep, you know, and drove itthrough and it's like, why do I
need to know that?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I was honestly not want to know I was, we hadn't
talked about that at all.
I was just about to bring upthat subject, that story,
because it like when you thinkabout the conversations that
were spurned because of theMartin Civil Rights Museum that
we went to with Elle, like theconversations that could evolve
around the mundane things thatwe learn.
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You know that seems like oh,why would everyone need to know
about JL staking a guy's head tothe ground?
You know that this seems likeoh, why would everyone need to
know about jl staking a guy's?
head to the ground you know,with a tent stake.
You know, like, why wouldeveryone need to know that?
But the conversations that cancome of that, oh my goodness,
because the kids like you know,like that's, that's gruesome,
like why would we talk aboutthat?
Well, because it's history.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, because it's what god used to help defeat an
army of people that were paganswho were sacrificing kids, you
know, yes, it shows obedience,it shows what devotion to God
does.
It also shows you that God usesanybody.
Especially during that time,women were lower than men.
I mean, that's just all thereis to it.
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He used a woman in that time andthere also ends up being a
woman judge, deborah, who wasone of the best judges that
Israel had, and the judgesweren't like the judges that you
see now in a courtroom with agavel.
These were like militaryleaders, basically.
But fantastic stories in therethat are not just like fairy
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tales.
These things really happen andit shows you the heart of our
God.
It shows you who our God is.
Constantly.
I read about Gideon thismorning as well, and Gideon was
so apprehensive.
Gideon did not.
He was like I'm the lowest oflows, I'm from the crappiest
tribe, I'm the crappiest personin the crappiest tribe.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Why would you ever want to use?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
me and guys, if you read God's word, you will see he
constantly is using theunlikely.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The unlikely, and it just gives me so much hope and
joy, because it means he's goingto use me too.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, what he's saying is that, no matter how
you feel about yourself or whatyou think about yourself, god
looks at you and says you're theimage of me and you have value.
Yes, you have value, you havepurpose.
I created you with intention,no matter where you came from.
No, matter what your historylooks like, your genealogy, mama
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, daddy, nothing, it don'tmatter.
God created you for such a timeas this with a tended purpose,
and you can live knowing that,knowing that he has a reason for
why you are here.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
God has a why Exactly , and he knows exactly why about
everything, yes.
But you know, that's why we dothose questions.
We want people to know theirBible, we want people to be able
to lean on the stories, and itbrings us all closer together.
That's why we do thosequestions.
We want people to know theirBible, we want people to be able
to lean on the stories.
It brings us all closertogether, Goodness.
Also, when we have these likeokay, last week at the shop we
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had our spring break events it'slike why do you do that?
Oh, she's just trying to bringbusiness in.
That's something that's verysecondary or third, that I even
think about.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Because most of the people that come we already know
.
I'm just going to tell you thisis legitimately what I think
about.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think about the people who may not have gotten
to go anywhere.
A lot of people go somewherefor spring break.
They go to the beach or theymight I don't know anywhere and
I think about the people thatmight be home and it's like I
just want to give them somethingthat maybe they can do with
their kids.
That's free.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
One of the things we had was an old school kickball
game.
I don't know if kids playkickball in school anymore.
You know like you had the bigball outside.
We had so much fun.
I don't think you were herethat day, were you?
I was not.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We had so much fun.
In fact, we had so much funthat we ended up playing two
different games.
They were like let's take abreak and can we come back out
here and play again.
And then we had a whole otherset of kids that come out there
and play and it was so fun andI'm going to be completely
honest with you, I was a littlebit like oh, I've got to go out
here and play kickball, you know, and JC, he helped me too, that
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way too.
And then we were out there andwe were like this is so much fun
, you know, and um, but thoseare the things like that.
Our number one of why we evenwant to do that is I do it for
y'all.
Yeah, we want to give yousomething to do.
That's fun and maybe outside ofthe box and it brings us
together Like we played withother people in our community.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh, the very second that and and they're by
themselves.
And then you see someone elsecome in that and they're looking
for.
It's like they have this, thislook on their face like where am
I supposed to go?
Yes, and then, all of a sudden,they lock eyes with the person
that they planned on meetinghere.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I'm like mission accomplished yes, because we
created a place for you to meetwith someone that you wanted to
meet with in an environment thatwas comfortable and or even
when they come in and they'vegot maybe a backpack with them
or a laptop and they just goover here and they sit in the
corner.
We have some that are here forhours.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I've had them here like half a day or three-fourths
of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And you know, because we have different times of the
day, we have different levels ofbusyness, you know.
But you can get tucked away andyou can just zone in, put your
headphones on, you know ifyou're having to study or listen
to something, and then we havelike nice couches and stuff that
you can sit on, shoot.
You could take a nap over there, I guess, if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It might be a little weird.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You might get freaked out when you hear the vacuum
cleaner at the end of the day.
But you know our why for thisplace was really to bring people
together and while you're here,guess what?
You can have some really goodfood and you can have a really
good cup of coffee.
We wanted the gift shop becauseI know, living in small-town,
rural, a lot of times you haveto drive off to go get a gift
for somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And I was like.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I want people to be able to come here and get a nice
gift at different price levels.
You can even come here and getsome clothes if you need clothes
.
So you know.
That's why, obviously, runninga business, you have to make a
profit.
I mean, this is our income, youknow.
But that hasn't always been ournumber one focus.
It's just been about wanting tooffer something to our
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community and surroundingcommunities and bringing people
together.
And I know that might soundhokey, but it's just.
It's the honest to God.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It is what it is.
That's our why yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So I want you to really think in your life what's
your, why?
Why do you work your job?
And you might be like, well, Ijust work it because I got to
make money, you know, and Godwants us to provide for our
families right.
There's nothing wrong with that, but dig a little deeper, you
know.
Or why, um why are your kidsinvolved in the things that
they're involved in, andsometimes you that it might be.
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You know what my why is not avery good why.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, so I think that I think that in my situation
with my previous jobs, um, Ialways looked at I was there to
finance my family's future.
That's why I was there, but mywhy as far as a Christian was
always deeper.
I always looked foropportunities to minister, no
matter where I was or what I wasdoing.
I recognized that my ministrywas where my feet went.
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It wasn't just at church, itwas my presence in this world,
everywhere you never stoppedministering.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Where my feet went, it wasn't just at church, it was
my presence in this world,everywhere.
You never stopped ministering.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Where my feet were, that was my ministry.
Not as a minister, as aChristian.
Sure, you know, we all areministers of Christ, ministers
of reconciliation to spread thegood news, the gospel of Jesus
Christ.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So you know when we're running.
Obviously we're going to talkabout Christ at times.
You know when we're in business.
We're going to talk aboutChrist when I'm running.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Sometimes I feel so close to Him, just like in
worship, when I feel close to.
Him, because it's just me andHim, and usually I'm pushing
myself so hard, you know, andI'm just crying out to Him
because I need help, you know,or whatever.
And a lot of times, if it's aneasy run, it's just like man,
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we're just talking and he's justgiving me peace and he's giving
me ideas, and, uh, I reallyfeel like my running time is is
time with God just as much as mychurch time is with him.
So, um, that's what it means forme.
I know it might not mean thatfor everybody, but um, it is for
me, and he's definitely used itin my life to bring me closer
to him and show me what he cando, rather than what I can do,
because what I found is that Ican't do very much but him.
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Through me, I can accomplishmore.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I want to leave you all with this scripture before
we go, continuing in Philippians2, it says verse 5, it says Let
this mind be in you, which wasalso in Christ Jesus who, being
in the form of God, thought itnot robbery to be equal with God
, but made himself of noreputation.
He came in the most humble formas a baby and took upon him the
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form of a servant and was madein the likeness of men and being
found in fashion as a man.
He humbled himself and becameobedient, even unto death, even
the death of the cross so it'snot only just death, it's a
horrible horrible, excruciatingdeath, wherefore god also hath
highly exalted him and given hima name which is above every
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name.
That, at the name of jesus,every knee should bow of things
in heaven and things in earthand things under the earth.
That every tongue shouldconfess that Jesus Christ is
Lord.
To the glory of God, the Father.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm confessing right now that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God, the Father.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
He's not going to have to make me bow and
ultimately, he is my why.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
And I don't want to do anything that brings shame to
him and God, forgive me if Ihave or if I do, and please just
keep drawing me closer to youto bring glory to your name and
never shame.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Amen, we will see you , guys next time.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
May the Lord bless you, keep you and make his face
to shine upon you.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Amen.
Hey everybody and welcome to episode 11.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome, welcome, welcome Recording again in the
coffee shop.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yes, this is probably going to be a shorter episode,
I would say, because we've justhad some time constraints, but I
think God knows exactly whatwe're supposed to say today,
what we're supposed to talkabout, and it's going to be good
.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yep, I'm excited about it.
We got our cups of coffee today, even though it's a little warm
outside for the first time.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm always going to drink coffee, coffee, and we
just got done running yeah, wegot done running a little over
five miles and it was so muggyoutside.
Oh my goodness like I just feltlike as soon as I walked out
there, I felt like moisture justpop up on my body I know I'm
still sweating and I'm gonna sitand drink hot coffee, but I
love it.
It's like the ultimate comfortand treat after I've ran.
Because I love coffee that much, I'm using my leopard cup.
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I believe my kids got me thiscup, or my sister, I can't
remember.
Somebody gifted me this cup,though.
Because I love leopard,anything leopard.
When I was 16, I had a Mustangand I got like furry leopard
seat covers steering wheel covercover everything was leopard
and I've always loved it yep, ohwell, not just leopard, but
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animal prints, you know no, Iknow leopard, I do like animal
prints, but leopard, a lot of, alot of animal prints, but
leopard mainly.
Yep, so we're drinking somegreat coffee that our team made
us.
They're in there working likecrazy.
It's been really busy in theshop today and we're so thankful
yep, it's been good.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yep, our customers have been in and out all day and
um.
Employees have been all happyand go lucky it's been fun, it's
been a fun day.
Uh, you are my sunshine is whatit says thank you, yeah, oh
well, you're welcome you setthat one up, didn't you?
May have okay, yeah, but I lovea good cup of coffee any time
of the day.
When's your time to drink a cupof coffee that you like the
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most?
In the morning or at night?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Every time of day.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Every time of day.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Every time of day.
So I'm going to say I'm justgoing to pick a rando number and
I'm going to say at 9 o'clockam I love to drink?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
song five o'clock somewhere right, but we're going
to make it about coffee?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, it's about coffee.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, okay, all right .
Well, so today, our um, ourthought, uh, for what we want to
talk about is your, why?
Um you know there's a lot ofreasons why we do things in life
and there's a lot of reasonswhy we go on different
adventures.
We we try to tackle, um, youknow, business ventures and jobs
and exploring different thingsthat intrigue us, you know like
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coffee.
originally it was what intriguedme and I got kind of geeked out
on why coffee tastes so good tome, you know, and started
exploring flavor profiles andstuff just on my own.
And my why was just to satisfysome curiosity.
But why did it continue to grow?
Because I developed a passionfor it, you know, and that
ultimately kind of led throughyou know, your desire to start a
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business.
It kind of combined it togetherand then here we are at
Sharecroppers Coffee.
So it really has been aninteresting journey.
How just exploring somethingbecause I was curious about it
turned into a passion thatturned into a venture that
turned into a lifestyle andturned into an opportunity.
You know, um, but what's yourwhy?
On a lot of things, you know,because we talk about running,
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we talk about coffee and we talkabout christ.
Why do we serve christ and whydo we run?
Uh, just kind of hitting onthose things like what's your
why?
You know, just to think aboutit and kind of reaffirm it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I think when
you know your why, it just givesyou, uh, just a better drive
and passion for whatever it isthat you're doing.
You know, because it's veryeasy to just get really
complacent in life and, beforeyou know it, you're kind of
floating through.
Yeah, because I know what thatfeels like when I don't really
know why I am doing something.
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It's like when I was in highschool, I struggled with math so
much, like like so, so so much,and I didn't know why I was
doing some of the things that Iwas doing.
Like when I'm trying to figureout these problems, I'm like why
, why is it this way?
Why am I having to do this totry to figure out this?
You know, and maybe because Ididn't understand the why, it
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was a huge mental block for me.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Because later on, on, once I got to college, I
excelled in math.
I don't know, a light bulb wentoff.
But um, I think when you knowyour why it just it makes
everything clear for you.
Yeah, because, and it makes itwin, because it's going to be
hard.
Anything that you do in life,at some point it's going to be
hard and it makes that so mucheasier when you know your why.
It helps you to be able to pushthrough.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You're able to take the moments where there is a
struggle.
There's always a strugglebetween the I don't know, and I
do know there's always astruggle, a learning struggle.
A lot of times that's whereyou're going to get frustrated.
It can be easy to drop off andbe like I don't know If and be
like, well, I don't know, Idon't know, but if your, why is
to accomplish a goal of learningsomething or doing something?
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the struggle is worth it if youkeep your eye on that marker.
I was talking about this, theconcept, with our son the other
day, with Jude, about theeducation system, with the way
that they test.
They train the kids to learnthe way that they're going to
test so that they can make surethey're able to monitor what
those tests are.
But we were talking about likenon-traditional teaching methods
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where, like a student will say,for this quarter your project
is to pick a business ventureand you tell me what that is and
the student will be like, okay,I want to build a commercial
bridge.
And then that student has todevelop a business model and
business plan building you knowschematics for it and during
that quarter they have to learnthe skills that they would need
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to be able to do that.
So their math would be orientedaround geometry and then
finance and things like that tobe able to accomplish it based
on economics.
But then someone else'sbusiness venture might be around
developing a cure for cancerand so that's going to be like
more of your science type math.
You know things with withchemicals and compounds and
things like that, so you'regoing to have different math
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needed for different stations oflife.
So your why you learn that maththat you need is based on what
your.
Why is your?
Goal is yeah and they foundthat a lot of students learn
better that way.
Not every, every student,obviously Right, but I just
thought that was intriguing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It is intriguing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
To think about.
But our why, like for a lot ofthings, why do we want to go to
church?
You know, a lot of people saylike, well, I'll go to church
when I have my heart right, whenI feel like I can be
comfortable walking through thatdoor, you know.
But your why is actually tobuild a relationship with God.
That doesn't mean that he wantsyou to be perfect before you
come into his presence.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
He wants you to be in his presence so that he can
help you get closer to him andunderstand how much we do need
him.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's a revelation of what he did for us, how much it
matters to actually believe it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's an obedience thing too.
I believe that he wanted us tobe for like-minded believers to
be able to come together.
We need that support system,but ultimately, it's about
setting that time aside andsaying God, I'm going to clear
out everything that I'm doing.
I'm not going to be thinkingabout my work, I'm not going to
be thinking about this or that.
I'm going to come into yourhouse and just focus on you.
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And it's so valuable.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's putting our relationship with him above any
awkwardness that we feel aboutourselves.
And maybe I was going to.
We were going to talk aboutthis scripture later on, but I
think maybe now is a good timeto talk about it.
We had looked at Philippians 2,verse 3.
It says Let nothing be donethrough strife or vainglory, but
in lowliness of mind, let eachesteem other better than
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themselves.
And the reason why I wanted togo ahead and maybe talk about it
was because it says it'stalking to the early church in
Philippi and the verse beforethat says fulfill ye me my joy,
that ye be like-minded, havingthe same love, being of one
accord and of one mind.
You know, when you think aboutselflessness, when you think
about doing something for others, you're not going to be aware
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of what others need, unlessyou're able to focus on someone
else above yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So I have this coffee brewing method that is a
percolator method.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't know if y'all if you see the video or the
image of it method.
That, um is a percolator method.
I don't know if y'all if yousee the video or the the image
of it, but it's a percolator andit's like a ceramic outside.
It's got a big hollow core andit's got a basket with a tube
going down to the bottom.
So when you boil the water andthe water gets hot enough, the
water gets shoved up through thetube, through pressure yes um
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and it.
It sprays out on top of thegrinds and this is a brewing
method that your grandmother umit's the only one.
She's the only one that she didlater on have like just your
regular, like mr coffee yeah,just regular drip coffee yeah
maker, but but this was the onethat I remembered the most,
because she would make thecoffee in the morning and then,
once it was made, the waterwasn't sitting on those grounds
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the whole time.
Um, it wasn't but her.
Why, in my opinion, like whyshe used it, was because it was
so easy to reheat the coffee.
All you had to do was she hadthe old gas heater, you know gas
fire stove, and you just hearthat when you hear that igniter
ticking, you knew that somethinggood was about to happen.
You know the flames would flameup and all she'd have to do is,
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as soon as she saw that thingperking, she knew it was boiling
again and she'd turn it rightback off.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And having to grab the handle with a towel.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, the towel, because it would be so stinking
hot and the fire coming up fromaround the outside of it too.
Just the whole thing would behot.
But if you ever went over toher house in the morning, while
it was still kind of a breakfasttime, even sometimes towards
lunch, if you ever walked inthere and you started talking to
her or striking up aconversation, she would lean
towards the stove, her bodywould naturally go towards the
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stove, because you were thereand she had something that could
be heated.
She had something that could becooked.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
She's always looking for a way to serve, to serve
others.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And you're going to get a hot cup of coffee.
Um, even if it was five hours,four hours, you know however old
it was, um, and it had beenreheated three or four times, it
doesn't matter, she was goingto have you a hot cup of coffee
that morning, on a chillymorning, and I remember so many
times going over there and andworking for her.
She'd have little honey, dolist things, and I'd go over
there and I'd I had, with zeroexpectation obviously, but, um,
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it reached a point where she'dwant to pay me or something like
that I'd be like no, don't,don't pay me, just just feed me,
you know, because, because Iknew she was anyways she's gonna
feed me anyways.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Always gonna have bacon and eggs still left over
from breakfast, sitting on thecounter with biscuits yeah, oh
my goodness, I would love a mom.
All biscuit right now yeah it'dbe so good.
And then she would also justalways have the have the cast
iron skillet over there with thegrease in it and she could
always fire it up and startcooking something else.
And when she would make thosefried eggs and she would just
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like she would spoon the greaseon top of it.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And so she would never flip them she would just
spoon it on top of them so thatthe top of it would cook and it
would be a soft fried egg or ahard fried.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
however, you liked it you know.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
however, you liked it .
You know, and she'd always askyou how do you want your?
Egg yeah you know and she everytime, no matter what it was
like perfect, because shehovered over it while she's
talking to you.
And my goodness, that's suchgood memories you know, because
it was all about building arelationship and serving others.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, and you know when you think about it.
I know that my mama wasn'tsitting there thinking what is
my why?
What is my why?
What is my why I am doing this?
But but she was intentionalabout what she was doing and you
knew that if you went to herhouse, that you were going to be
cared for.
Yeah, like you just even if youdidn't even know what you
needed to be cared for it about.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's like she knew yeah what you needed, but it's
well, she had a way of pickingyour brain while she was talking
to you.
True, you know she was talkingto you and she was just picking
up on things.
I did.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I did use this little book because we were talking
about our why.
Our why has always been we justwant to help people, whatever
it is like okay, with coffee, Iwant to help you with coffee,
with running, I want to help youwith running and I really have
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you know at church and thingslike that.
So we have that, um, I guess,spirit inside of us that we want
to serve, but um, we went toMemphis.
It was actually been right at ayear ago.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know what If you haven't ever been to Memphis, go
to Memphis.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I actually was sitting here thinking I was like
, let's go back, galvin.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let's go back, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, let's go back, let's go ahead and plan it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, it was so good.
It really was.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It was just for a weekend like a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It was an unexpected, really good trip.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, we went there because we were taking our
daughter to see a Broadway playup there, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I think it's called the.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Orpheum.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Theater.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It was a great experience, but so while we were
there, we were like, hey, wedefinitely want to go to oh gosh
.
Um, oh gosh, it just left mesun records or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Sun studio, yes where uh elvis recorded and julie
lewis and all them um that wasfantastic experience.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Graceland right.
I'm sorry if I'm like burstingyour nose bubble, I'm not a fan.
We actually stayed at thegraceland hotel and it was okay,
it was like on the crappy sideof town.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yes, I didn't like't like it, but some studios like
it's such a small studio butit's so rich in history, oh my
gosh.
I mean you were only in likejust a couple of rooms, yeah,
but it was just saturated andseeped in culture.
I just feel like you can feelit.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That and then also like, which was my favorite?
Hands down, and when we go back, I would really like to take my
parents, because I know that mydad would absolutely love this
too, but we went to the LorraineHotel where Martin Luther King
Jr was murdered, and that'swhere the National Museum the
Civil Rights Museum is.
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And I've been to the one inBirmingham.
The Birmingham one is greatguys, If you have not been.
I highly encourage you toplease go.
It's so good and then uh I wantto go to the one in this, this
state, you know, uh, inmontgomery I haven't been to
that one yet, but uh, so I havea bucket list of wanting to go
to all of those.
But when we went there and ourkids loved it too, and I know
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that may sound weird.
That's like oh, you're going tothis place where someone was
killed or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But you know I want my kids to understand well, the
conversations that we were ableto have with our kids after um,
after we visited and wentthrough there, like the, the
converse, the conversations Ihad with l, were just so
innocent, you know, like she'sjust sees these pictures of
these people being abused, youknow, or honestly seeing uh
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photographs of um the ku kluxklan and stuff and she's like
mom, what is that like?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
why are they wearing that and why are they being mean
to these people?
These are crucial conversationsthat you can have with your
children yeah when they're young, you know, and and let them
know that this was wrong youknow, and just going back all
the way to the roots you know ofof slavery, um, but anyway,
yeah, going on.
I just appreciate so much whatmartin luther king jr, the
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sacrifice that he made, like Ithink he knew his why oh, the
man certainly knew his why anduh, you can't go through there
and not be moved, um, but webought this little book when we
were there and it just hasdifferent quotes by him in it,
and I want to also segue withthis with I do not lift any man
up, he was just a man.
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I think, he did some importantwork and he was definitely
special, you know, and God usedhim in a pivotal time, but he
wasn't a perfect man.
Nobody is, you know.
So I don't lift anybody uphigher than jesus or god that's
right but, um, he did say somereally amazing things I think
about in the short amount oftime that he lived his life how
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old was he again when he died?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
40 yeah, in his 40s 40 maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Wow, I shouldn't have this, but that's crazy because
I'm older.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I want to look it up.
Okay, you?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
you read that okay, so yeah, look it up for me, so
one of the uh quotes that stoodout to me and it kind of just
went with calvin kind of had afeeling of what we needed to
talk about today, and then I sawthis quote and I was like, hey,
I just read this quote and Ithink this would be great, um,
but it life's most persistentand urgent question is what are
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you doing for others?
He was 39 years old, 39 yearsold.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm older than him.
I'm so too short.
I always assumed he was olderthan that what he accomplished
in his 39 years is absolutelyamazing.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Wow, I know and I think about how much we've
missed out on him not being heretoo, oh yeah.
But he really was about thecause and he was like what are
you doing for others?
And I would like to questionyou all with that what are you
doing for others?
And I think about even in thelittle things that we do, calvin
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, like for instance, when wejust ran, and it's okay to do
things for your health and youknow that's a great why, you
know, but being able to takesomething that you're already
doing.
One of the reasons I starteddoing fitness classes is because
I did have people ask me hey,what are you doing?
Because they saw that I waskind of getting in shape a
little bit.
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You know, they're like what areyou doing?
I would tell them and I waslike why don't I take what I'm
already doing and share it?
with others, invite them intothat space.
That I'm already doing.
If I'm already working out inthe mornings, then why not open
it up where other people can.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, we're already doing the Bible recap too, so
why not share that?
Yes, which is exactly the sameconcept.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
So it's not like I'm sitting here trying to reinvent
the wheel and like come up withthese things.
It's like I'm doing this and itworks.
Number one I want to sharethings that I know that works
with people, and so I definitelywant to share the Bible recap
and 100%.
I want to share Jesus.
He works, guys.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He works 100%.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
The closer that we've gotten with God and His Word
and understood how it all wrapsaround itself, around each other
.
It's mind-boggling that we'vebeen Christians for as long as
we have, and it's likeconstantly.
His mercies are renewed everyday.
In His Word he's revealingstuff to us constantly.
You never learn everythingthere is about God, because it's
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just so much.
He's so complex, but yet hecomes to us in simple ways you
know, and it's like I wastelling you, um, the message
that I delivered Sunday, likeGod completely took the message
that I had been studying andplanning and preparing for that
whole week, just thinking aboutit, you know and and he just
took it from me right before Igot up there to preach and, um,
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I was thankful that myfather-in-law, your, your dad,
uh, followed the Lord and prayedover me and I was like, yes,
okay, I completely understandthat that was for me, and God
put an entirely differentmessage on me and I'm just
thankful that that he was.
I was humble enough to actuallyhear that.
You know, because we get sotied up and this is what I
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planned, this is what I planned.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I'm prepared for this .
This is what I planned.
This is what I planned.
I'm prepared for this.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
This is what I know, but but my why isn't to deliver
a fantastic sermon?
My why is to deliver what godhas for me to deliver at that
moment?
Yes, you know, and um samething with all the people in our
history.
Uh, martin luther king.
You know um billy graham Graham, other leaders of the Christian
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movement in America throughouthistory.
You know, all we can do is praythat every leader has the
humbleness in their service tobe doing it for more than just
themselves.
Right, if we do things forourselves, it's all vanity.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It sure is, and like well, you've received your
reward at that point.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Instantly.
That's it.
Instant gratification.
Okay, you got your reward, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
But think about when you're thinking about other
people and the reach that thathas.
And it's not that you're doingthings to get rewarded.
You're not.
I don't but know your why yourwhy you're doing something.
Okay, even this.
We were having thisconversation like why do you
read your Bible?
If someone asked you, calvin,why do you read your Bible, what
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would you say?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right off the cuff to know the God that loves me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Right.
So and that might seem like abroad answer, but truly Okay so
recently it's just come to myattention that I feel like we as
believers, or as the church,really don't know our Bibles.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Like we might.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
it's easy to try to take the Bible when you're
reading it and apply it towhatever is going on in your
life and you're like God isspeaking to me about this and it
just happens to be what you'regoing through, and I'm not
saying that he doesn't do that,because he is so merciful and so
graceful and he knows what weneed when we need it.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
But it becomes a habit.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It does, and a lot of times we haven't ever just
really gotten in there andstudied the word like as a
history book, you know, like ifyou were a student of the Bible
and know his word.
So many people haven't read theOld Testament and if you have
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not read the Old Testament andif you don't think that Jesus is
in the Old Testament, then youtruly haven't read your.
Bible.
He's throughout it.
Oh yeah, god the Father, godthe Son and God the Holy Spirit,
then you truly haven't readyour Bible.
He's throughout it.
God the Father, God the Son andGod the Holy Spirit.
If you believe in the Trinity,then you know that he is
throughout the Word.
And so you know, like, why do Ineed to know about the judges?
Why do I need to know about thekings?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You need to know where you came from.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's just like with American history we need to know
where we came from.
It's just like with Americanhistory we need to know where we
came from.
If we didn't know that we had,that there was the Boston Tea
Party and we were declaring ourindependence from Britain, like
what if we didn't know any ofthose things?
And there would be noappreciation for the freedom
that we do have right.
So, like when you read the OldTestament, you have a 100%
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appreciation.
When you read the Old Testament, you have a 100% appreciation
for the freedom that we do havein Christ.
That when he said, it isfinished what that really meant.
It wasn't that?
Oh, I died, I'm done, it was.
I fulfilled all the law thatwas in that Old Testament.
Because, guys, we could notmeet the standard.
God has a standard that is sohigh that we cannot approach it,
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and Jesus approached it for us.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's right.
There's been a lot of times inum in my life where I've often,
like my relationship with Christgrowing up uh, you know looked
at it and reevaluated it andsaid is is, am I where I need to
be?
You know um.
You question am I?
Am I as close as I should havebeen by now?
You know, and, uh, to an extentyou kind of feel bad when
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you're like man.
I should know this, or I shouldhave the faith to be able to do
this task.
That's in front of me you knowand not have fear, and not have
doubt.
You know, and uh, but those arethe kinds of things that Satan
wants to make you feel bad about.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
When you can't go back and change where you've
been.
But you can affect today.
Yes, you can affect yourtomorrow by your actions of
today.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And we've talked about that.
We've talked about thatrecently.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
yeah, but when it comes to your walk with Christ,
or the things that you are doingin your daily life, the
actionable steps that you aredoing in your daily life, the
actionable steps that you aretaking in your life today, you
can actually say am I doing itfor myself or am I doing it for
others?
Am I doing it for myself or amI doing it for God?
You know, the greatest of allcommandments was love the Lord,
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your God, with all your heart,with all your soul and with all
your mind.
And the second is, just likeunto the first love your brother
as yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You know, if you want what's best for yourself, then
you should want what's best foryour brother.
Right and sometimes that meansputting them first.
If you want what's best for God, you know, then that means
you're putting him above yourdesires.
It's important that when we doreevaluate or we do look at what
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we're currently doing in ourlife, you have to compare it to,
not the other things of thisworld, because there's a lot of
gurus out there.
Sure, they say do these fivesteps.
We were just talking about thisthe other day.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh my gosh.
Yes, there's like a post onsome running fitness.
Especially with fitness.
It'll be like talking aboutthis the other day.
There's like a post on on somerunning fitness, like if you
want to lose all those, if youcan't lose your belly fat, it's
because you need to do thesefive things and it's just.
It's bogus junk.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm sorry it is have a six-pack do these movements
and it's like no, it's so muchmore than that you know, it's
more than just doing a fewcrunches it's consistency, yeah,
um, but.
But when it comes down to likethe actionable steps that we
take, you really got to haveintention about it.
And, um, if, if I was to sithere and say, okay, today I am
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going to only think of others,more than likely I'm gonna mess
up but if I say but if I saytoday I want to just serve you,
god, he's going to putactionable things in front of
you for you to take action on.
that could become second natureto you.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yes, and you need to have your eyeballs on to know
when those opportunities arethere.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's just part of your personality, the character
that God is building up insideof you because you want to be
close to him, that you will havethe eyes and the mind of Christ
.
Yes, up inside of you, becauseyou want to be close to him,
that you will have the eyes andthe mind of Christ.
Yes, you know.
Um, I mean obviously you know acup of coffee and a percolator
sitting on a stove is just asmall thing, but to me right now
, looking back on it, it's hugefor my memory of her legacy of
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service, a memory of of the.
I just see her personality whenI look at this brewing, this
percolator, right here.
I see her character, I see her,I hear her voice.
Yes, I smell her house.
I feel her hands, yep, yep, andlike when I would hug her and I
would feel that little wrinklein her neck in the back when I
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would hug and I would hug tightit would kind of curl up and she
had that soft skin that wouldkind of curl up, like I feel
that yes when I look at this.
So the the things that you do topeople nowadays that make them
feel loved will be so much morelonger lasting than anything you
ever do for yourself right youalways say that people are going
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to remember how they feel.
Uh, what's that thing, thatthat phrase?
People will always they thatpeople are going to remember how
they feel.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
What's that phrase?
They're not always going toremember the things you've
accomplished or what you've done, but they will always remember
how you made them feel.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
How you made them feel when you were in their life
.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
yeah, yes, you can really take everything and
figure out your why on it I wasthinking about.
I mean, obviously we can lookat why, ryan, you know, or
whatever, but I'm not, I'm notgonna broach out on that one,
but let's talk about, like, evenat our church, like we have
this thing called oasis and likewe start a new quarter tonight
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actually.
So we take it by every threemonths but we cover um, like we
have a series of questions andit can always be like anywhere
from 60 to 75 questions, andevery class, even the kids learn
the answers to these questions.
Because it also and it's likewhy, why are you making
everybody?
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Well, okay, it's something fora family to talk about at home,
right?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Because they're all learning the same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Because a lot of times, like you know, you might
have your teen class and youradult class and your kids class
and a grandma class and whatever, and they might all be learning
all these different things,which is fine, but it's like
this one thing everybody islearning and it's a talking
point, it's something that theycan study together, be on the
same playing field with it, andat the end of that quarter, and
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everybody has their own lessonsstill in their classroom.
But everybody is also doingthis along with it.
And the whole purpose of thatwas number one, that people
would know their Bible.
And we've had so many peoplecome up to us and say I have
learned so much about the Biblethrough Oasis, and at the end of
that quarter we all cometogether and the classes compete
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against each other and it'sjust fun.
We have buzzers, you know, andthese kids are able to compete
with these adults as well.
And it's hiding that word intheir heart and it may be they
might be memorizing things atsome point.
But, guys, we've been doingthis for probably maybe five
years.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't know, and so some things are repeating
something you repeat it over and, over and over again.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
It gets in your head.
And let me tell you somethingwhen you know and I just read
about this this morning when jluh stuck the the tent, uh, the
stake in his in cicero's templethis was a woman that helped
defeat an army because, um, shewas sneaky and she took out an
enemy, uh, and she drove a tentstake through his temple while
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he was asleep.
She lured him to her tent withand warm milk and he went to
sleep, you know, and drove itthrough and it's like, why do I
need to know that?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I was honestly not want to know I was, we hadn't
talked about that at all.
I was just about to bring upthat subject, that story,
because it like when you thinkabout the conversations that
were spurned because of theMartin Civil Rights Museum that
we went to with Elle, like theconversations that could evolve
around the mundane things thatwe learn.
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You know that seems like oh,why would everyone need to know
about JL staking a guy's head tothe ground?
You know that this seems likeoh, why would everyone need to
know about jl staking a guy's?
head to the ground you know,with a tent stake.
You know, like, why wouldeveryone need to know that?
But the conversations that cancome of that, oh my goodness,
because the kids like you know,like that's, that's gruesome,
like why would we talk aboutthat?
Well, because it's history.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, because it's what god used to help defeat an
army of people that were paganswho were sacrificing kids, you
know, yes, it shows obedience,it shows what devotion to God
does.
It also shows you that God usesanybody.
Especially during that time,women were lower than men.
I mean, that's just all thereis to it.
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He used a woman in that time andthere also ends up being a
woman judge, deborah, who wasone of the best judges that
Israel had, and the judgesweren't like the judges that you
see now in a courtroom with agavel.
These were like militaryleaders, basically.
But fantastic stories in therethat are not just like fairy
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tales.
These things really happen andit shows you the heart of our
God.
It shows you who our God is.
Constantly.
I read about Gideon thismorning as well, and Gideon was
so apprehensive.
Gideon did not.
He was like I'm the lowest oflows, I'm from the crappiest
tribe, I'm the crappiest personin the crappiest tribe.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Why would you ever want to use?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
me and guys, if you read God's word, you will see he
constantly is using theunlikely.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The unlikely, and it just gives me so much hope and
joy, because it means he's goingto use me too.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, what he's saying is that, no matter how
you feel about yourself or whatyou think about yourself, god
looks at you and says you're theimage of me and you have value.
Yes, you have value, you havepurpose.
I created you with intention,no matter where you came from.
No, matter what your historylooks like, your genealogy, mama
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, daddy, nothing, it don'tmatter.
God created you for such a timeas this with a tended purpose,
and you can live knowing that,knowing that he has a reason for
why you are here.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
God has a why Exactly , and he knows exactly why about
everything, yes.
But you know, that's why we dothose questions.
We want people to know theirBible, we want people to be able
to lean on the stories, and itbrings us all closer together.
That's why we do thosequestions.
We want people to know theirBible, we want people to be able
to lean on the stories.
It brings us all closertogether, Goodness.
Also, when we have these likeokay, last week at the shop we
(31:36):
had our spring break events it'slike why do you do that?
Oh, she's just trying to bringbusiness in.
That's something that's verysecondary or third, that I even
think about.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Because most of the people that come we already know
.
I'm just going to tell you thisis legitimately what I think
about.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think about the people who may not have gotten
to go anywhere.
A lot of people go somewherefor spring break.
They go to the beach or theymight I don't know anywhere and
I think about the people thatmight be home and it's like I
just want to give them somethingthat maybe they can do with
their kids.
That's free.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
One of the things we had was an old school kickball
game.
I don't know if kids playkickball in school anymore.
You know like you had the bigball outside.
We had so much fun.
I don't think you were herethat day, were you?
I was not.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We had so much fun.
In fact, we had so much funthat we ended up playing two
different games.
They were like let's take abreak and can we come back out
here and play again.
And then we had a whole otherset of kids that come out there
and play and it was so fun andI'm going to be completely
honest with you, I was a littlebit like oh, I've got to go out
here and play kickball, you know, and JC, he helped me too, that
(32:42):
way too.
And then we were out there andwe were like this is so much fun
, you know, and um, but thoseare the things like that.
Our number one of why we evenwant to do that is I do it for
y'all.
Yeah, we want to give yousomething to do.
That's fun and maybe outside ofthe box and it brings us
together Like we played withother people in our community.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh, the very second that and and they're by
themselves.
And then you see someone elsecome in that and they're looking
for.
It's like they have this, thislook on their face like where am
I supposed to go?
Yes, and then, all of a sudden,they lock eyes with the person
that they planned on meetinghere.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I'm like mission accomplished yes, because we
created a place for you to meetwith someone that you wanted to
meet with in an environment thatwas comfortable and or even
when they come in and they'vegot maybe a backpack with them
or a laptop and they just goover here and they sit in the
corner.
We have some that are here forhours.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I've had them here like half a day or three-fourths
of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And you know, because we have different times of the
day, we have different levels ofbusyness, you know.
But you can get tucked away andyou can just zone in, put your
headphones on, you know ifyou're having to study or listen
to something, and then we havelike nice couches and stuff that
you can sit on, shoot.
You could take a nap over there, I guess, if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It might be a little weird.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
You might get freaked out when you hear the vacuum
cleaner at the end of the day.
But you know our why for thisplace was really to bring people
together and while you're here,guess what?
You can have some really goodfood and you can have a really
good cup of coffee.
We wanted the gift shop becauseI know, living in small-town,
rural, a lot of times you haveto drive off to go get a gift
for somebody.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And I was like.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I want people to be able to come here and get a nice
gift at different price levels.
You can even come here and getsome clothes if you need clothes
.
So you know.
That's why, obviously, runninga business, you have to make a
profit.
I mean, this is our income, youknow.
But that hasn't always been ournumber one focus.
It's just been about wanting tooffer something to our
(34:51):
community and surroundingcommunities and bringing people
together.
And I know that might soundhokey, but it's just.
It's the honest to God.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It is what it is.
That's our why yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So I want you to really think in your life what's
your, why?
Why do you work your job?
And you might be like, well, Ijust work it because I got to
make money, you know, and Godwants us to provide for our
families right.
There's nothing wrong with that, but dig a little deeper, you
know.
Or why, um why are your kidsinvolved in the things that
they're involved in, andsometimes you that it might be.
(35:22):
You know what my why is not avery good why.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, so I think that I think that in my situation
with my previous jobs, um, Ialways looked at I was there to
finance my family's future.
That's why I was there, but mywhy as far as a Christian was
always deeper.
I always looked foropportunities to minister, no
matter where I was or what I wasdoing.
I recognized that my ministrywas where my feet went.
(35:49):
It wasn't just at church, itwas my presence in this world,
everywhere you never stoppedministering.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Where my feet went, it wasn't just at church, it was
my presence in this world,everywhere.
You never stopped ministering.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Where my feet were, that was my ministry.
Not as a minister, as aChristian.
Sure, you know, we all areministers of Christ, ministers
of reconciliation to spread thegood news, the gospel of Jesus
Christ.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So you know when we're running.
Obviously we're going to talkabout Christ at times.
You know when we're in business.
We're going to talk aboutChrist when I'm running.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Sometimes I feel so close to Him, just like in
worship, when I feel close to.
Him, because it's just me andHim, and usually I'm pushing
myself so hard, you know, andI'm just crying out to Him
because I need help, you know,or whatever.
And a lot of times, if it's aneasy run, it's just like man,
(36:40):
we're just talking and he's justgiving me peace and he's giving
me ideas, and, uh, I reallyfeel like my running time is is
time with God just as much as mychurch time is with him.
So, um, that's what it means forme.
I know it might not mean thatfor everybody, but um, it is for
me, and he's definitely used itin my life to bring me closer
to him and show me what he cando, rather than what I can do,
because what I found is that Ican't do very much but him.
(37:02):
Through me, I can accomplishmore.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I want to leave you all with this scripture before
we go, continuing in Philippians2, it says verse 5, it says Let
this mind be in you, which wasalso in Christ Jesus who, being
in the form of God, thought itnot robbery to be equal with God
, but made himself of noreputation.
He came in the most humble formas a baby and took upon him the
(37:27):
form of a servant and was madein the likeness of men and being
found in fashion as a man.
He humbled himself and becameobedient, even unto death, even
the death of the cross so it'snot only just death, it's a
horrible horrible, excruciatingdeath, wherefore god also hath
highly exalted him and given hima name which is above every
(37:47):
name.
That, at the name of jesus,every knee should bow of things
in heaven and things in earthand things under the earth.
That every tongue shouldconfess that Jesus Christ is
Lord.
To the glory of God, the Father.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm confessing right now that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God, the Father.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
He's not going to have to make me bow and
ultimately, he is my why.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
And I don't want to do anything that brings shame to
him and God, forgive me if Ihave or if I do, and please just
keep drawing me closer to youto bring glory to your name and
never shame.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Amen, we will see you , guys next time.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
May the Lord bless you, keep you and make his face
to shine upon you.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Amen.
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