Scaling Up Your Impact Podcast

In this inspiring episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Robyn Mourning sits down with EMDR therapist Tony Parmenter to explore the innovative integration of nature, fly fishing, and EMDR therapy. Tony shares how being outdoors enhances nervous system regulation, supports co-regulation with clients, and creates a deeply grounding, therapeutic experience. He dives into his process, including using natural metaphors, slow bilateral stimu...

In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, host Robyn Mourning welcomes Sarai Trujillo to explore the vital work of infant and early childhood mental health. Sarai shares her experiences as a therapist, mother of seven, and grandmother of ten, highlighting how relational support, attachment, and early interventions can empower parents to become healing agents for their children—even in the midst of life’s challenges.

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In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Robyn Mourning sits down with Sarai Trujillo, licensed professional counselor and perinatal mental health expert, to explore how therapists and birth workers can support families during pregnancy and the postpartum period.

Sarai shares her journey from grassroots birth justice work to providing trauma-informed EMDR therapy for birthing people and their families. They discuss sensitive perio...

In this inspiring episode of the Scaling Up Your Impact podcast, host Robyn sits down with Colorado therapist Jennifer Pollock to explore her recent humanitarian EMDR work in Costa Rica. Jennifer shares how she used EMDR GAP protocols—including ASSYST, IGTP, and PRECI—to support women experiencing trauma, and discusses the powerful transformations she witnessed.

The conversation highlights the importance of a stepped-care approach, ...

Schools are one of the most important environments for reaching children and teens—but how can EMDR therapy fit into these settings? In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent explores the opportunities and challenges of bringing EMDR into K–12 schools.

You’ll learn:

• Why schools are uniquely positioned to support trauma healing
  
  
  
• How EMDR can be adapted for children and adolescents
  
  
  
• The l...

EMDR isn’t just for private practice. In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent explores how EMDR therapy can be integrated into eating disorder hospitals, addictions recovery centers, and inpatient/residential mental health facilities—and why these structured settings can create unique opportunities for healing.

You’ll learn:

• How EMDR addresses the root causes driving eating disorders, addictions, and acute men...

Curious about offering EMDR Intensives but not sure where to start? In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent walks you through everything you need to know to structure your first intensive—covering clinical planning, logistical details, pricing strategies, and how to sell without feeling salesy.

You’ll also learn why getting trained in intensives matters—from identifying ideal candidates to managing extended proce...

Thinking about EMDR training but worried it might not be for you? In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent tackles one of the most common fears therapists have: “What if I invest in EMDR Basic Training and end up not liking it?”

You’ll learn:

• Why this concern is completely normal
• What you actually gain from EMDR training—even if you never use EMDR as your main modality
• How to approach training with curiosity and ...

In the wake of disaster or collective trauma, timing matters. In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent breaks down the key differences between Crisis Response and Early Intervention, and how two powerful AIP-based group protocols—ASSYST-G and EMDR-IGTP—fit into each phase.

You’ll learn:

• When to use each protocol for maximum impact
  
  
  
• How ASSYST-G helps stabilize acute stress symptoms and prevent PTSD...

Marketing your therapy services can feel overwhelming—especially when you’re not sure if being EMDR-certified makes a difference. In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent breaks down what actually attracts clients and how to market yourself as an EMDR therapist, whether you're trained or certified.

We go beyond the usual tips and dive into:

• The difference between marketing and selling
  
  
• How to price...

In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, we explore the ASSYST protocol—an evidence-informed, nonverbal intervention designed to support clients in acute distress by helping stabilize their nervous systems and prevent the onset of PTSD.

Host Kelly Smyth-Dent breaks down when and how to use ASSYST, how it differs from traditional coping strategies, and why it’s such a powerful addition to your clinical toolbox—especially for client...

Curious about what really drives Scaling Up? In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, founder Kelly Smyth-Dent offers a candid, behind-the-scenes look at the heart and mission of Scaling Up. Whether you’re a longtime participant or just discovering us, you’ll learn what sets Scaling Up apart—and why accessibility, real-world practicality, and therapist support are at the core of everything we do.

Kelly addresses the most common mi...

Are you wondering if EMDR therapy is a good fit for your clients—or for your own clinical style? In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, host Kelly Smyth-Dent tackles the common hesitations therapists have about EMDR, from concerns about client caseloads to questions about therapy style and intensity.

Kelly breaks down:

• Who actually benefits from EMDR (hint: it’s not just for PTSD)
• How EMDR can help with single-incident trauma,...

In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, host Kelly Smyth-Dent tackles one of the most frequently asked questions among trauma-informed therapists: Can EMDR be adapted for group settings—and if so, what actually works?

Kelly explores why group EMDR is an essential tool for reaching communities and clients who may not have access to traditional one-on-one therapy. You’ll get an inside look at two of the most widely used group proto...

In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, host Kelly Smyth-Dent breaks down one of the most common questions among EMDR therapists: What’s the real difference between being EMDR-trained and EMDR-certified, and why should it matter to you or your clients?

Tune in as Kelly walks you through:

• What it means to be EMDR-trained (and what’s required to get there)
• The additional steps, supervision, and experience needed for EMDRIA Certif...

In this episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, host Kelly Smyth-Dent explores the urgent need for trauma-informed care among veterans, service members, and their families—and how EMDR Therapy is helping to close the gap. Discover why military-connected clients face unique barriers to mental health support, and how EMDR offers a practical, research-backed path to healing that honors their boundaries and experiences.

Kelly shares the stor...

Episode 2: A Stepped Care Approach to Mental Health

In today’s episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, Kelly Smyth-Dent, LCSW, introduces the Stepped Care Approach — a transformative model for trauma treatment that flips the traditional method on its head.

Instead of rushing into trauma processing, Kelly explains why stabilization must come first. Drawing powerful parallels between emergency medicine and therapy, she outlines the three es...

Episode 1: Welcome to Scaling Up Your Impact – Where Clinical Excellence Meets Sustainable Growth

Short on time, big on purpose? Welcome to the inaugural episode of Scaling Up Your Impact, the podcast created specifically for busy trauma therapists and EMDR clinicians seeking to elevate their practice without burning out.

In this first episode, we introduce you to the Scaling Up community—a global network of thousands of trauma-infor...

Episode 3 - ADAPTING EMDR PROTOCOLS FOR REAL-WORLD IMPACT

In this illuminating episode of the Scaling Up Your Impact Podcast, we dive into the essential practice of adapting EMDR protocols to meet diverse client needs while maintaining therapeutic integrity. EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) has transformed trauma therapy with its structured approach, but real-world application often requires thoughtful flexi...