Second Order
Hosted by two Stanford graduate students, Neha and Elsa, Second Order explores the mental models and skills that make us better entrepreneurs. Through deep conversations with experts who’ve built, led, or studied what actually works, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the habits, frameworks, and decisions that drive meaningful impact. If you're building something (or thinking about it) this is your space to think a layer deeper.
Episodes
What does Stanford’s James Landay believe will be the next paradigm of computing? You’ll have to listen in to find out 👀
Today’s guest is Professor James Landay, Stanford Computer Science faculty and co-director of the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI. In this episode, we explore how sharp UX and smart data drive entrepreneurial wins. From early-stage validation to spatial computing, storytelling interfaces, and AI-native d...
What do mud-powered science kits, Stanford's Startup Garage, and systems thinking have in common? Keegan Cooke. In this episode, we sit down with the Director of Stanford Ecopreneurship to unpack what it really takes to train future founders. From turning microbial fuel cells into an educational startup to mentoring students through the chaos of early-stage ventures, Keegan shares the mental models, frameworks, and lived experience...
Why do some stories stick and others vanish the moment they’re told?
In this episode of Second Order, we dive into the art and utility of storytelling with Christina Wodtke, Stanford lecturer, startup veteran, and author of Radical Focus and Present Yourself. Christina has spent her career helping people and teams find clarity through OKRs, better communication, and yes, sharper stories.
We explore what makes a story powerful, how fo...
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