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You.
This is Sharpening your Edgewith Chuck and Eric.
On today's episode, we haveWill Stevens.
He's the creator and drivingforce behind the Trailer Park Sports
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Network, which is a rapidlygrowing platform known for its unfiltered
passion, blue collar humor,and genuine, genuine love for the
game.
Welcome to another episode ofSharpening youg Edge, presented by
CB3 Hockey Development.
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I'm Chuck Fertolino along withmy co host, Eric Melanson.
And today we are pleased towelcome the creator and driving force
behind Trailer Park SportsNetwork, or tpsn, the social media
platform, Will Stevens.
Will.
Welcome to the podcast.
What's good, guys?
I appreciate you for having me.
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Well, my man, it's.
I'm glad.
Glad to get you on the show.
I know Chuck and I are excited.
We got a lot to unpack.
First and foremost, though, Iknow a while back you shared a story
or a post on there.
I wanted to check in.
How's your mom doing?
Oh, dude, she's.
She's almost walking again.
She's got the cane and she'smoving around a little bit.
She's.
My mom's.
My mom's Irish, so she's stubborn.
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Very, very stubborn.
So she's kind of just pissedright now because she's like, I feel
like I should be recovered more.
And I'm like, mom, it has beenthree weeks, four weeks now since
she had a full knee replacement.
So it's like, come on, comeon, you're doing a lot better than
you think you are.
Like, she was up walking withthe cat with the walker.
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Like, the.
Whenever I went to go see her,it was a day after she had surgery,
and I'm like, all right, you know?
Yep.
Well, that's awesome, man.
I'm glad to hear it.
Glad to hear it.
Appreciate you for checking inon her.
Yeah, of course, man.
So we'll jump into it, man.
So you literally describe yourInstagram handle as, you know, Trailer
Park Sports Network.
Something that started betweena cornfield and a cotton field in
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northern Alabama.
Yep.
That, you know, doesn't screamhockey hotbed.
So, like, how does being in anon traditional hockey market kind
of, you know, how did thatshape the way you discovered the
sport?
You know, it's kind ofinteresting because especially, like,
whenever you try and talkabout hockey down here, nobody cares.
Like, I'll try and talk to myfriends about it.
They're like, yeah, that'scool, but I'd rather talk about football.
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You know, it's veryinteresting because it kind of just
like popped into My face.
You know, the Four nationscommercials just were on espn and
I was like, you know what wegot best on Best nation versus nation.
Canada and America alreadyhave beef right now.
Let's see if it bleeds intothe hockey thing.
And it was really PK too,because, like, I saw a PK and I'm
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a big.
I'm a big fan of like, seeingfolks that look.
You know what I mean?
That look like, oh, yeah, inthe sport.
And then like, he was talkingabout it.
So I was like, let me give ita chance.
Let me see.
And now here we are.
Which is like, it kind ofsucks to be in a non traditional
hockey market to an extent,because it's like, I want to grow
the game.
I'm doing anything in my powerto grow it, but there's just such
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little access to it.
It's really, really, really hard.
Even when it comes to, like,trying to get people into, like,
roller.
I mean.
Yeah, but still, it's superexpensive to get a stick.
Yeah, absolutely.
Now, like yourself, there'sother Southern hockey fans out there.
What kind of.
What do you see that kind ofmakes you guys unique from the rest
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of the hockey fans that maybe,you know, the rest of the world's
not seeing it, maybe we're notready for yet, that you're trying
to slowly introduce us to?
You know, what's your.
What do you guys.
What's your claim to fame?
I guess that's a good one.
I think there's a lot ofSouthern hockey fans that they bring
their.
The way that they care aboutcollege football, the way that they
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care about, like, that.
I feel like they bring alittle bit of that passion into hockey,
which is why I think that'swhy Nashville fans the way that they
are, you know, you gotTennessee football, you've got like
Middle Tennessee State upthere too.
Vanderbilt is in Nashville.
Then, like, you know, youdrive a little bit south, you've
got Tuscaloosa, you've gotAuburn, got North Alabama too.
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Like, you've got all of thesecolleges around here.
And most of those people arefans of the Predators.
That's just what they choose.
And I feel like they bringthat, which is why, you know, even
when the Predators aren't thatgood, the bridges rocking.
Like, I went up there andwatched them play against the Ducks.
And mind you, first hockeygame, and it's the one where Trevor
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Zegras was like, yeah, man, Icould have played better if it wasn't
for the congas.
It kind of like just likecaught us off Guard.
Yeah, that game was my first game.
That place was still rockingeven though, like they were losing
essentially the entire game.
And that place is loud.
You know, I feel like theyjust bring a. I feel like they.
I feel like they bring thesame energy that like some of the
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Canadians bring because, like,they love it.
They love this.
Like the ones down here thatwatch hockey, they like.
I feel like they live.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you seem prettypassionate yourself.
Oh, dude.
As long as you continue to dothat and you bring that enthusiasm
to what you're doing, I thinkthe game is going to continue to
grow and that it's amazingwhat you're doing.
So, like, committee, I noticedyou're wearing your Sharks hat.
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I was watching your.
You know, I'm gonna pick my team.
One of my, you know, we don't do.
We haven't done shout outs onhere, but a great friend of mine,
Kyle Dion, I played with himon the warriors hockey team, huge
Sharks fan, lives out inSeattle now.
Wanted me to give you, youknow, a what's up?
Because he follows you too,and he loves that you're a Sharks
fan.
He made his year for sure.
Hey, man, shout out to him.
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Shout out and love the Sharks dog.
Such a fun team.
It's such a fun team.
Oh, I'll tell you, you know,quick story.
In high school, so I went tohigh school in Boston.
My high school history teacherwas Alex Thornton, who's Jumbo's
brother.
So this was when Joe wasplaying with the Bruins.
So it was, it was pretty,pretty electric to have a.
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He's just as tall and just asgoofy as his brother.
So he'd be running down thehallway tapping people on the shoulder
and trying to run by them theother side.
You know, six foot eight, dudewith the long hair flowing out the
back.
Oh, man, that's awesome.
That's so cool.
Will, you mentioned the Fournations cup last February, right?
There's moments in hockey fanslives that they'll always remember.
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And I'm sure Eric can back meup on this there, you know, yet the
1980 Olympics, which, youknow, I was just born then, I don't
remember it, but you had thefirst World cup of hockey in the
90s with U.S. and Canada, theOlympics, but the, the NHL really
did a great job putting onthat Four Nations Cup.
And we heard stories of, youknow, them, the marketing team growing
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the game and just theelectricity and the Chucks helped
with that as well with theirfights in the US Canada game.
So that was how you say yougot introduced to the game and grew
the love of it.
So what about it did caughtyour eye and said and convinced you
I'm going to be a fan of this sport?
Look, so I'm gonna start alittle bit before Four nations, right?
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So my friend Fizz is like, yo,dude, you like, you love lacrosse.
You know, you should really.
And you, like, watch box lacrosse.
You watch a lot of box lacrosse.
You should start watching hockey.
It's literally the same thing,just on ice.
And I was like, dude, I don'tcare about hockey, bro.
I'm not gonna watch this thing.
And you know, do you see thecommercials and stuff?
I'm like, all right, allright, all right.
Let me see what it's talking about.
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And then the first nineseconds, usa, Canada.
I'm just sitting there like,see, where is his passion in football?
Where is his passion in baseball?
Where's his passion in basketball?
Like, they care.
They truly care.
Like they.
You.
You don't get this.
You don't get this level ofpassion in anything else.
You really.
And not to.
Not to cut you off, Will, but that.
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It was an exhibition game too.
Yeah.
It wasn't like they were evenplaying for a Stanley Cup.
It was just exhibition gamesfor your country, you know?
And like, that's what reallygot me was like, yo, this.
They're not even reallyplaying for anything here.
They have a full season toactually play for something.
This is kind of just a. I feellike it's bad to say it, but a made
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up trophy.
This is literally just like a.
Hey, we came up with thisthing a couple of weeks ago.
Here's the trophy for it.
You know, you guys can win this.
And then I'm like, yo, yo.
Then I made that videoaddressing hockey fans was like,
yo, this hockey thing.
Yeah, I'm all in.
I'm bought in.
I'm here.
I don't care who is playingthe hockey.
I'm gonna be showing upwatching the hockey.
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And then I had to address PKbecause I was like, hey, pk, you
were the one that I saw thatsaid to watch this.
And you didn't lie.
You said hockey is the bestprofessional sports product.
You didn't lie.
It is.
And it's not even close.
The fans care.
The players care.
The coaches care.
Shoot.
The refs care.
Like every.
Everybody involved what'sgoing on cares.
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Except for Gary Bettman.
Oh, quote him.
Quote him.
That's like.
That's.
That's just.
It's not nothing.
The party line for hockeyright there, that's.
That was Electric Man, Icouldn't agree more.
I mean we got Olympics comingup in a little bit.
USA's got some injuries, somekey injuries.
You want to give us a hot takeon the Olympics which, what's your
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prediction?
I know it's a little early.
You get a hot take.
Bedzy and Macklin are going tobe there.
100%.
Mack and Bedzy will be there.
It's not going to be Mack or Bedzy.
It's going to be Mac and Bedsy.
They're.
They both have a case andthey're both going to be there.
I feel like team Canada,Hockey Canada would be screwing themselves
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over to not bring both of them.
And I also think Schaer has a shot.
Don't think he makes it, but Ithink he has a shot.
Yeah, the defensive core.
Yeah, defensive course, pretty stacked.
He's got some stiffcompetition, but yeah, he's definitely
making a case for himself.
He deserves to at least be inthe consideration whether he makes
it there, you know, to be seen.
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But I think he at leastdeserves to be in that conversation.
Side note, well, I'm a bigIslanders fan, I'm originally from
Long island.
So he's just, if you haven'tseen enough of him, he's just electric.
The way he moves, just, justthe way he skates.
It looks just so effortless.
I was at a photo shoot withWarrior in Montreal in August.
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So I got to sit down, I got tosit down and interview him actually.
So that'll come out at some point.
I don't know when.
They have not told me when,but I got to sit down and interview
Matthew Schaefer and ask him abunch of like casual fan questions,
which was cool.
They were like, yo, ask himnon traditional questions.
He probably won't get asked.
And I was alright, cool.
Because I mean I even like, Igot to sit down and ask him like,
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what is it?
When did you know you weregonna go number one overall?
Like most interviewers aren'tgonna sit down and they're not really.
How does it feel to get.
What does it feel like ondraft night?
What is that like, you know,the questions you're super casuals
want to know, right?
But I got to sit down and beat that photo shoot and watch Matthew
Schaefer go to work.
Him and Demidov.
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Him and Demidov were skatingaround and doing their thing.
And dog, first off, IvanDemidov has the biggest smile on
his face every time he'splaying hockey.
Like it is, it is.
It's the most Pure thing ever.
He just loves the game, likehe really does.
And then Matthew Schaefer, thehead on the kid's shoulder is crazy
because I'm sitting theretalking with him about, yo, man,
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like, I asked him a questionlike, who are you excited to play
against?
He's like, dude, I'm stillfocused on trying to make the team,
dog.
I still got to make the team.
And I'm sitting here like,dude, you just went number one overall.
You mean I got to make the team.
You just went number oneoverall to a team that definitely
needs you.
You're talking about I stillgot to make the team.
That's.
You don't really see that with a.
At the time, he was still 17.
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With a 17 year old, you justdon't see that.
And I feel like you don'treally get that in many other sports
other than this one, where,like, they're like, they don't talk,
they don't jaw at each otherin interviews.
They don't do that becauseI'll handle it on the ice.
Yep.
I tell you, from what I'veseen from Schaefer, you know, as
young as he is, I think theway he carries himself, his leadership,
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his poise, his.
It's incredible.
You know, just the way he'salready been giving back.
I think he, you know, he'sobviously gone through a lot in life
with the passing of his mom,but, man, talk about a kid that is
just way mature beyond hisyears and that's.
That's going to be great forthe future of the NHL.
I mean, if those are the guysthat we're looking at to.
To be the face of this game,Game's in great shape.
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Bedsy Mack.
And then you've got Schaefer.
Like, dude, that's a. Yep.
And you got another one comingup this year from.
From Penn State.
So I think it's going to be awesome.
It's going to be awesome.
So Chuck and I are bothcoaches for a long time now.
I guess I'm retired now.
Chuck, huh?
We've seen you out there stickhandling, getting your work in.
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You know, I think it's goingpretty well.
What has been the mostchallenging thing for you to grasp?
You know, being new and justkind of dive in right on your own
to back skating.
That was.
I think that was the hardest thing.
Skating wise, I'll break itinto two.
I'll break it into two.
Skating wise, it's been theback skating because I've already
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had like a little bit of afoundation when it Came to skating,
like, I, I knew how torollerblade and I knew how to ice
skate when I was a kid.
I just like, once I got reallydeep into playing football and was
like, I'm going to go playcollege football.
I was like, yeah, I'm notdoing anything that's going to like
get in the way of me playingcollege ball.
So rollerblades, ice skates,we're not doing that anymore.
But you know, I had a solid foundation.
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The back skating just doesn'tmake much sense.
It's like, how do people do that?
So smooth.
Like one of my friends, he'llcome out there and try and help me.
He would start moonwalking.
And I'm like, you're flexingon me, dog.
Why are you doing this to me?
Like you're moonwalking right now.
Like, this is not fair.
But.
And then when it comes tostick handling, it's.
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It's been the backhand.
Like going from forehand tobackhand, like I always lose it.
Like going from backhand toforehand, like that's easy peasy,
that's easy.
But like going from forehandto backhand for whatever reason,
I.
Maybe it's just because I feellike if I would have tried to do
it, if I would have tried tobe a lefty and like cheated the system
because I'm right handed, Ifeel like it'd be a lot easier for
me.
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But I was like, no, I learned.
I grew up like, you know, youplayed in school and stuff.
And I did it left, I did itlike with my left hand being my top
hand.
So like, we're going to do itthis way.
I'm not going to cheat the system.
And it's just been a pain.
It's been a little bit of a pain.
I think you're looking good.
I think you're looking goodout there.
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You're not in a very, youknow, populated hockey area.
What's the rink situation likedown there?
We've got one.
Well, they're actuallyexpanding on it to where they'll
have, I think it'll be foursheets of ice now.
They've got two right now.
And I think they're gonnaexpand so they have four.
If it's not for, it's justgonna be three.
But they're expanding right now.
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They're doing the construction.
We used to have a collegehockey team in this city, but they
deaded the University ofAlabama and Huntsville program.
Now it's just club.
They at least still have anACHA program which is like, you know,
it's still, you got hockey,you know, but it's not sanctioned,
not D1 anymore, which doeskind of suck.
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But maybe by doing what I'mdoing, we can help re spark the like
the love of hockey in the city.
Because we have the Huntsville Havoc.
There's a lot of people thatshow up at those games.
You can tell Huntsville,Alabama enjoys their hockey.
You can.
It's just not that accessible here.
I feel like if we were to.
It's just.
If we had the time to like putin that effort to build, to like
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uplift it.
For me, I. I'm thinking abouttrying to start a petition to try
and get like a, a rollerhockey rink maybe, because I think
that would be a good way togrow the game down here.
Because that's been my thingwas I understand ice hockey is going
to be really hard to grow inthe south, but we can grow street
hockey, we can grow rollerhockey easy peasy.
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We can do that.
We can blow that up down hereand then take the people that really
love that and then transitionthem into ice hockey instead of like
trying to blow up ice hockey.
And then you spend a bunch ofmoney doing that and then people
don't really want to do it andnow you just do money into a money
pit.
If you do it like with thisthe non traditional way, there's
a chance that the people thatreally like that, they're like, yo,
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well, I want to get on the ice.
All right, let's do it.
You know, me and my friendJosh were, we want to.
We were thinking aboutstarting a nonprofit for that one
day.
That's what we want to do.
We want to start a non profitto get more people into like just
stick sports in general, likelacrosse, hockey, field hockey.
We want to, we want to likefunnel the people that are like from
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the oversaturated sports likebaseball and basketball and football
and be like, hey, welllacrosse, there's a bunch of openings
in this sport and if you get ascholarship playing this well, shoot,
you're going to like Duke orNorth Carolina and you're getting
yourself a good degree.
Same thing with the hockey world.
If you go play hockey incollege, you are getting a really
good degree and it's going toset you up pretty well in life, you
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know.
So like we, we want to like get.
We want to help people, wewant to help the world.
We are.
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So what's been the toughestthing to learn about hockey in the
past six months?
Dude, man, there's a list, I'dsay, you know, and I guess this one
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may be one you probably don'thear much, but it's the amount of
awards.
It's the amount of awards andwhat each one is for and the amount
of trophies that there are in hockey.
Like, there's a lot oftrophies that get handed out throughout
like the postseason, you know,I mean, and like all the awards and
stuff.
It's been hard to keep trackof all that.
It's been really hard to keeptrack of.
Like, all right, I'm trying tomake a list of like, who do I think
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is going to win this and that?
And it's like, dude, there'slike a hundred of these things, dog.
This is crazy.
And the rules, some of therules are, I think the weirdest one.
Why does the when they're onthe face off, right?
Why does the one dude have tohop out sometimes.
That still doesn't make senseto me.
I still don't understand that.
I.
Sometimes they do.
Sometimes they'll like pickthe puck up and like tell the dude
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to get out.
Or sometimes it'll just pickthe puck up and just let him go.
And I'm just, I'm like, well,when does he hop out and when does
he stay?
So the two biggest reasons isif the center gets the stick in before
the ref tries to drop the puck.
So that's one of them.
Like he's cheating.
And also, if you notice thecircle, the wingers have to stay
on the outside or on the lineof the circle.
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So if they creep in, they'llkick the center out and bring a winger
in.
You'll get it.
It takes time.
The more you know.
And regarding the trophiestoo, it just shows you the sport
of hockey, how, you know, youdon't have to be the highest scorer
to be a great hockey player.
There are roles for everybody,offensive defensemen, things like
that.
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So goaltenders, differenttypes of roles.
So it's not just you go outthere and you play and you score
goals and if you put them allup, you're the best in the world.
You know, hockey needs thoserole players as well.
Goaltender interference too,because it just doesn't like.
I promise you, they just flipa coin in Toronto.
I promise you, they just flipa coin in Toronto.
When I was at the Cup Finaland they let me go in the situation
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room that they have like onsite for the Cup Final, the whole
time, I was just like, hey, isthe coin is in here somewhere?
Like the coin y' all use toflip for Gold center interference.
I know it's in here.
It has to be in here.
The past year or two, that'sbeen a.
A debatable rule.
You know, sometimes there's guys.
Originally it was if you're inthe crease before the puck comes
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in, it's, you know, thewhistle blows, the face offs outside
the zone or now you see guysbarely touching the goalie and then
the goals get overturned.
So yeah, there's no clear cutrule on that.
It seems that one in the kick,that one.
And the kick is also anotherone because the Sharks had a goal
taken off the board against who?
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Was it Minnesota or.
No, it was against Utah.
We had a goal taken off theboard against Utah because they said
that Will Smith kicked it in.
But the first goal that Utahscored went off of somebody skating,
went in and it looked like hekicked it in.
So I'm like, well, if that'snot a kick, how is this a kick?
Because Will Smith had no ideawhere the puck was, and he just was
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like.
Wally was, like, slidingtowards the net.
The puck hit his skate andwent in, and it was just like he
was looking down, trying tofind the puck, too.
How are you gonna say hekicked it in?
We had no idea where the puck was.
Yeah.
That's another close one.
I think the rule states it'sgot to be a, quote, distinct kicking
motion.
So.
But, I mean, you can, youknow, turn your foot and direct it
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in and.
Yeah, that's the thing is youcan turn your foot, but I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, referee discretion.
I guess it's what makes thegame interesting, I guess.
Right.
All these different rules and interpretations.
Yeah.
You have no idea what's gonnahappen on any given night because
the referees may just be like,you know what?
Yeah, you know, we just.
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We're just not calling goalie.
Well, goalie interference.
Yeah.
It doesn't exist to us today.
Nah.
High sticks, kinda.
But maybe you had some.
You know, from the mention ofyour first game in Nashville to,
you know, just telling usabout sitting in the Situation Room
during the Cup Final, like,you've hit some pretty high marks
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in such a short period of timethat I'm sure many, many fans out
there are jealous of.
But, like, looking back on allof these things, like, what to you
is the most, like, memorable,important, you know, the one thing
that you were like, wow, youknow, this is cool.
I was PK Suban.
It was when PK followed me andput my post on his story, because
that is what started all of this.
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Like, truly what started allof it.
Like, that video was blowingup, for sure.
It would not have hit theheights that it did.
And I wouldn't be where I amwithout the PK Suban cosign, because
that in itself is confirmationbias to a lot of hockey fans.
Like, pk.
PK likes this guy.
All right, cool.
I don't need to know anything else.
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I don't need.
I. PK follows him.
All right, cool.
You know, and I think that'swhy some of the brands have been
around.
I think that's why, like, youknow, some of the people that have
came around have came aroundis because.
Like, that right there, youknow, I mean, like, that was just
an initial.
Like, that was a boost in itself.
It's kind of similar to, like,on TikTok, whenever I got followed
by USA Bobsled and Flavor Flavyou know, I mean, like.
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Right.
That's cool, isn't it?
Like, it's just such a random one.
Like whenever I got those,like, there was a lot of other USA
athletes that just started tofollow me just because it's like,
oh, well, this organizationfollows them.
So cool.
All right.
You at Team USA likes him.
Cool.
That's all I need to know.
I guess the other, the onlyother thing I could say is meeting
Phil.
Meeting the cup was cool.
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Meeting the cup was cool.
Meeting Phil.
He's a legend, a true legend.
Yeah, he sure is.
He said, I'm sure he's hadsome experience.
Yeah, that guy's lived life.
So shifting off of hockey fora second, if anyone follows you,
they'll see that you coverwhat you said was all the random
stuff, quote, that no onecares about.
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Right.
Like you highlightunderrepresented sports athletes,
talk about your coverage ofthose and your passion for them.
So what drives you to bringthese stories to light?
I grew up a swimmer, so, youknow, I know how it is to do something
at.
I mean, I swam competitivelytill I was 14.
I wouldn't say like I wasgreat at it, but I was swimming at
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a pretty high level as a kid.
So I know what it's like to dosomething at a high level and have
nobody care, not a soul careabout it because it's not something
that many people care about.
So whenever I started TrailerPark Sports Network, it was in the
middle of the Olympics.
It was like Olympics and thenParalympics and then like a week
later I was like, alright, I'mgonna name the account something
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because I have 20,000followers and this needs to be something.
And in my head I was like,well, you don't show up to the Trailer
park expecting regular things.
You don't show up to TrailerPark Sports Network expecting regular
sports coverage, you know, solike there, I like to bring.
I like to bring a little bitof energy to things that don't get
enough energy, likebobsledding, skeleton.
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I was up at 1 in the morning.
I skipped the ending of theSharks game, went to bed early so
that I could be up at 1:30 sothat I could watch the skeleton event
so I could go support somefolks that.
Do you really think there'smany people that are willing to wake
up at one in the morning to gowatch them?
No.
Do you think there's manypeople that are going to wake up
even that next morning and goon IBF sliding YouTube channel and
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watch the replay?
Probably not.
Right?
So I'm going to do it and I'mgoing to post about it so that at
least my platform gives them away to be seen.
You know, there's so manyathletes out there that put in insane
amounts of work and justnobody cares because it's not football,
it's not basketball, or it'snot baseball.
When they're like, when, likeon the parasite, right?
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When it comes to theparasports, those are elite athletes.
Those are.
Some of those are.
I would say those are moreelite athletes than NHL players.
Like, those are truly elite athletes.
You know how hard it is to run100 meter with a, with two amputated
legs and still run it veryfast at a pretty high speed.
You know what I mean?
You know how hard it is to dothe long jump blind, you know, I
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mean, like, those are eliteathletes and just nobody, they don't
get enough attention.
So, like, if nobody's gonnacare about it, I'm gonna care about
it.
I'm keep showing up.
You know, Chuck Aoki had toldme he made a video and he said, you
know, being in a, being aParalympian during the Olympics is
really weird because it's likeyou're at this party and this party
is super great.
Everybody's having a great time.
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But in the back of your head,you know, I have a party coming up
and I hope everybody shows upto this party the same way that they
showed us that one.
You know, I really hopeeverybody shows up to mine and have
the same amount of fun.
And that like, hit my soul andit lit a fire in me because I'm like,
no, we're going to show up.
We're going to bring even moreenergy because that party was cool.
This party has way more eventsand this party is, it doesn't get
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enough respect.
So we're going to give it somerespect and that's how we're here.
I love that.
You know, I love that.
You know, you mentioned acouple of things that gave me some
questions in comments here.
Blind.
You know, the blind lam.
Junk.
If you've never watched blindhockey, I encourage you.
I watched it for the firsttime during the Warrior Classic championship
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and my God, it was amazing.
I could not stop watching.
It was a lot, you know, I wasgetting excited.
I was jumping up and down.
I thought it was the coolestthing in the world.
It's unreal.
It's unreal that they can.
The amount of things that youcan do blind, actually.
Yeah, it is wild.
And then, huge fan of swimming.
My wife, you know, Shout outto her.
Huge fan of swimming.
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Side note, her high school,middle school boyfriend was Michael
Phelps.
So, you know, shout out tohim, you know.
Yeah, I think she, you know, Ithink she did all right.
She leveled up, you know.
You know, hey, you know, whowants all those Olympic gold medals,
you know?
You know, Michael, he put.
He obviously, he put swimmingkind of back on the map at least
every couple years, right.
And now, you know, you gotKatie Ledecky on the female side,
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who I think is insane.
Talk about an athlete.
She's getting older and hertimes are getting faster.
It's insane what she's doing.
And she swims the distancesthat nobody wants to swim.
Have you gotten in?
So I played collegiate rugby.
I played Division one atNorwich University.
It is.
I'm a huge rugby fan.
I don't know if you've gotteninto it yet.
I got the rugby network.
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Oh, man, I would.
That is talking about a funsport, man.
A lot of rules.
Do you like.
What do you like more, sevensor union?
Probably sevens.
You know, I was a wing, so Ilike the speed and the pace and the
amount of ball touches you get in.
Sevens vice, I'd say.
I don't favor one over theother just because I know, to me
it's like box lacrosse versusfield lacrosse.
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They both serve their purpose.
You know, they're both thesame thing.
It's just.
They serve their purpose.
Sevens is a lot easier todigest, though.
15s.
If you don't understand rugby,then you're just, like, looking at
a mess.
Yeah, you lost me at 7.
Yeah, yeah.
See, that's.
We got to grow the game.
We, you know, we got to growthe game.
Ilona Mar is doing that.
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She's doing a.
She sure is.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's awesome.
She, you know, shout out.
Freshman year, she went toDorch University, and then we lost
her.
But that's okay.
Yeah.
I mean, she's doing someawesome things.
So I guess here's my questionbefore I turn it over, Chuck, Just
because you mentioned allthese awesome athletes, and this
might be a long question, butI'll get there.
So you have all these nontraditional sports that like lacrosse,
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right.
And rugby, and you see a lotof those guys make the transition
to football fairly easily.
Right?
They.
You don't.
You see lacrosse player makethe transition to the NBA fairly,
you know.
Yeah.
Electric.
Yeah, electric.
You don't see that manyplayers being able to kind of just
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jump ship and walk on the rink.
But if you could.
If there was any professionalathlete out there that you follow,
not in the NHL that you couldsee on the ice and you think would
be, you know, the next comingout there, who is it?
There's a lot of really eliteathletes out there.
I would say I would love tosee Kyrie Irving as a hockey player.
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I would have loved to seeKyrie Irving as a hockey player.
And it's not just because ofwhat he can do, like basketball wise.
It's like when you look at theway he's built and like the amount
of balance that he has andespecially contact balance, I feel
like if you would have got himinto hockey at a young age, I think
he would have had thepotential to be elite.
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Just because he has some ofthose intangibles like you just,
you can't teach balance thathe has.
You can't.
And you can't teach the handeye coordination that he has.
You just can't.
Those are things that youjust, those are gifts.
You have it or you don't.
And I'd say Cam Scatterbow, Ithink he would be, dude, dude, he'd
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be fun to watch on the ice, dog.
He would be fun to watch onthe ice, man.
He, you know, it'd be one ofthose very short lived careers.
Very, very short lived.
Like crash, dummy.
Probably heard all the time hehas one job and that's go clap something,
maybe shoot every.
So if you're wide open, bro,just like rip a clapper just because
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you can, dog.
Just because you can.
But I, I think those would be,I think those would be fun ones.
And then I guess just to throwit out there, Just to throw it out
there.
I'd say LeBron.
Just because I think it'd befunny just because I think it'd be
funny to see someone that bigon the ice.
I don't think he'd be, I don'tthink he'd honestly be that good,
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but I just think it would bevery fun if he would have came up
in the hockey world instead of basketball.
Just because it's like, that'sa freak.
That's a genuine freak human being.
And as big as he would havebeen on the ice, that would have
just been a problem.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
When you were describingScatterbo, it.
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My mind immediately went to PJ Stock.
I was thinking Matt Rempe.
There's no regard for human life.
I have one job and let's justgo hit something.
I don't really do it in thesmartest way and I usually get myself
hurt in the process, but Ithrew a body.
And it was entertaining to watch.
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Yep.
And I threw hands.
Yeah.
He hasn't been back since Revo.
That's what I was talkingabout earlier with the different
roles.
Would anyone ever think a guylike Rempe would be in the NHL?
Right.
If you watch his skating,sometimes he looks just like, you
know, a baby deer out there.
But everyone fits a role.
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And he's.
He was.
He's in the NHL.
So that's what.
That's one of those thingsthat I really do like about hockey
and one of those things thatI've started to not like about football
and basketball is that theyare willing to be role players in
hockey.
I know that if I'm a thirdliner or a fourth liner, bro, I'm
not giving up goals.
I'm just trying to, like.
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I'm just.
Maybe I'm trying to put oneup, but I'm just trying to, like.
Especially if I'm a fourthliner, I'm just here to make sure
that my first line guys getback on ice.
And I'm not giving up a goal.
We're not doing none of that.
If we get one.
If we pot one, we pot one.
That's awesome.
That's a bonus.
But we're just.
We're gonna play good defense,and we're not gonna give up a goal.
And we're gonna make sure that.
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Sir.
That our first line boys canget back out there and do their thing.
You know, like, everybody'swilling to do their job.
Everybody's willing toindividually do their job to the
best of their ability.
And they have trust that.
Yo, my two if on the center.
I know my two wingers aregonna do what they got to do.
I know that they're supposed to.
They're gonna do.
They're gonna handle their job.
You sitting there as the goalie.
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I know that my defense infront of me is going to do the best
of their ability to keep thepuck from getting near me.
And if it does get near me,I'm gonna do my job, and I'm gonna
keep the puck from hitting theback of the net.
That's what I like about the sport.
Everybody is willing to dotheir individual job for the bigger
goal.
You don't see that as muchanymore in the other sports.
Just because they're like, Iwant to be the star.
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Everybody wants to be the starin hockey.
No cares about being the star, dog.
They just want to make the show.
Whether it's as a fourth lineror a first liner, they don't care.
I just Want to make the show.
So I was going to shift overto your content and just talk a little
bit about that.
Right, the content.
When you first started, whatwas one of the biggest missteps you
had and how did you recoverfrom that or how did you learn from
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it?
I couldn't talk to the camera, right?
That was.
And that's such, like, a weird one.
I couldn't talk to the camera correctly.
Like, was talking to the camera.
I was actively talking to thecamera, and somebody left a comment
on one of my videos one daywhen I started trying different stuff.
And she was like, it feelslike I'm on FaceTime with you every
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time I watch your videos.
I'm like, cool, we're runningwith that.
Well, that.
That's the best way to thinkabout it.
I'm thinking about it like I'mtalking to my friends.
So, like, whenever you see myvideos and the way that I talk, I
talk the same.
I'm talking the same way rightnow that I do in the videos.
I talk the same way with myfriends that I do in the videos.
I don't change anything forthe videos anymore.
I felt like I had to, like, bea certain type of way.
No, just have fun, do your thing.
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And also, I'm really bad at consistency.
When I started, theconsistency was really hard.
So there was a time where Igave myself a challenge and I posted
every single day for 180 days straight.
Like, I, like, made a video.
I was like, yo, this is dayone, blah, blah, blah, blah, Blah.
And then for 180 days, I did that.
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And that's how I got theconsistency that I have now was I
put a challenge for myself.
Was like, yo, every single daybefore work, I'm making a video.
Didn't really matter what itwas about.
Just gonna make a video justto put something on the Internet,
just to make myself do it.
And then it just becomes a habit.
And now it's just second nature.
Making a video is just, allright, cool, make a video.
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Is there a creative processbehind this, or is it just whatever
pops into your head?
That's what I'm throwing out there.
It depends on the video, actually.
So for the ones that you seewhen I do the trailer intro and I'm
like, walking outside and thenbringing everybody in, I'm.
I sit down and think aboutthose, and I usually write out, like,
an outline for the video.
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Not necessarily, yo, I need tosay this, this, and this.
It's just like, yo, we need tomention this.
I need to mention This.
I need to mention this.
I should mention this too.
Anything else after that?
Cool.
But we just need to make surethat we mention these most important
things and knock all of thesethings off the checklist, and then
from then on.
Cool.
But a lot of the videos whereI'm just holding my phone, those
are just on a whim.
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I probably just.
I.
Probably whatever I'm talkingabout in the video popped in my head
five seconds before the startof the video.
I used to pace the house a lot.
That's part of why, like, the.
I started making videos was Iused to just pace.
I'd.
I would just talk.
I would just talk to myselfand have random sports takes or random
takes about anything, and Iwould just pace and talk to myself.
I'm like, dude, let me justmake videos about it, see what happens.
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And then, you know, now we're here.
We are.
I mean, we're.
I think we're in a great spot.
You.
You have got over, like,40,000 followers now.
You've easily already grownthe game a bit, and that in such
a short amount of time, it's,you know, tremendous.
We talked about your, like,favorite moment or, like, you're.
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Oh, my God, I've kind of madeit moment was the PK follow.
But, like, have you receivedsome, like, meaningful ones to you?
Like, you know, thank you, orlike, a man, this is awesome.
I love you.
Like, it's the most meaningful.
Those.
I'm gonna be honest.
I get a new one of those,like, every week.
That reminds me, like, this iswhy I do it.
There's, like, I'll justscroll through my dm.
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Sometimes you just get, like.
And sometimes it's like alittle kid.
Sometimes it'll just be like alittle kid messaging you.
Like, yo, man, like, I didn'tknow anything about hockey before,
but I'm getting into hockey now.
Like, I watched your videos.
You made it seem really cool.
And now I'm gonna go out andplay hockey, and, like, they'll even
send, like, you know, they'llDM me, like, their videos from their
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account of, like, them goingout and playing hockey.
And I'm like, this is why I do it.
This is literally why I'mdoing everything that I'm doing.
And it.
It reminds me that I amgrowing the game, that, like, there's
a.
Yes, we do get the hate in the dm.
Sometimes people send thereally questionable messages that
they don't.
They don't realize that I'mjust like, if you have your Facebook
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tagged in your account, I'mjust gonna send it to your boss.
If you send some racist thingto me, I'm just gonna send it to
your boss, and you can dealwith that later.
It's not.
Got nothing to do with me.
If you want to do somethinglike that, I wouldn't do it from,
like, a super public profilewhere I.
Where you have your job there.
I'm just gonna send the veryhateful message that you sent to
me and to send it to your workand let them deal with it.
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I've already had someone tellme, like, you cost me my job.
No, I didn't.
You did.
You did that.
I didn't do that.
But, you know, it's this.
It's like, every so often.
And I run a Discord serverthat has over 300 people in it, and
every so often, you'll have,like, people join, and they're like,
wait, I can talk to.
Like, I'm just.
You're just in voice chattalking with us.
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I'm like, yeah, dude.
Like, and they'll just get totalking about, like, dude, I didn't
have.
Like, there's a couple ofpeople that have told me, like, dude,
I didn't have any friendsbefore I joined the server, and you've
given me, like, a group offriends that I can talk to every
single day.
And I'm like, this is why I dowhat I do, dog.
We're here to change the worldthrough sports.
We're here to grow a community.
Like, Trailer Park SportsNetwork is not just an account.
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It's a real community.
Like, we.
We have converse.
Like, I made my Discord serverso that I could have conversation
with people, so that if I madea bad take in a video, you can tell
me I made a bad take in avideo, and we can have a conversation
about it instead of you justhopping in my comments and saying,
this video sucks, we can talkabout it.
You can say, oh, well, youshould have said this, this, and
this.
And you know what?
I'll.
I appreciate any type ofcriticism that I get, especially
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when it's like.
Like, when it's like, actualreal criticism instead of, this sucks.
You know, there's a. I got.
I have these bracelets on, right?
And a couple of my.
A couple of my followers madethese bracelets for me, you know?
And, like, whenever I've goneout to, like, different events, you
know, like, they're like, oh,my God, this whale.
Yo, I made this for you.
And like, those stuff.
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Like, that is, like, whatmeans stuff to me.
Like, I'll Never take these off.
And I mean like, because theymean something to me.
They'll always mean somethingto me because my followers took time
out of their day to dosomething for me, man.
The world needs more peoplelike you, man.
Like, it's just real.
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The thing that a Lot of peopleforget is that I had 700 followers
in February 19th before I madethe video addressing the hockey community.
I had 700 followers.
I know exactly what it's liketo be that dude.
That reaches out like, yo man,I know you'll never see this, but.
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And type a whole paragraph.
I know exactly what it's liketo be that person.
It's not like I'm just somedude that's always been famous, you
know, I mean, or came out,came from, like, always had a bunch
of money and always doing thisand that.
Like I'm a regular dude.
I live between a cornfield anda cotton field in a single wide trailer.
Like, I don't have any reasonto act like I'm bigger than what
I am.
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I'm Will.
That's it.
I have nobody special tattooedon me because it's a reminder that
like, I'm just Will.
I am just who I am.
That is it.
I will never be.
I will never be more than that.
I'll never be less than that.
Will always just be me.
I love that.
Recently, this week, right?
Celebrities hat trick your posts.
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Were you surprised how fastthat went from your post from your
phone to national tv?
Right, right, right.
Like I'm sitting there and Iget a DM on, I get a tick tock DM
and I rarely ever check myTikTok DMs.
But it's like one of thoserare times I did it and someone's
like, dude, you were just onthe freaking Utah Mammoth broadcast.
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And I was like, huh?
What do you mean?
I was on the Utah Mammoth broadcast.
And I was like, answer him.
I'm like, what do you mean?
He's like, d, they used yourvideo, that Macklin Celebrini video.
And I was like, what?
What do you mean?
You use my Macklin celebrity,they use my Macklin Celebrini video.
So I had to.
So I just like cut off thething I was watching because I was
watching the game on theSharks, bro.
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I always watch the Sharksbroadcast because NBC.
NBC does that hockey thing,right, man, NBC just does the hockey
thing, right?
I love that crew.
But I was watching on there,so I'm all right, whatever.
I watched the Mammothbroadcast and run it back.
Then lo and behold, there I am.
And I'm just like, you know,this is cool.
This is awesome.
Definitely wish they wouldhave asked.
Definitely wish they wouldhave asked so I at least would have
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known.
Like it's more so.
So I would have known.
And just cuz the principle,you're gonna make money off of this.
You could at least say, hey,can we use your video to make ourselves
some money?
That's cool.
They reached out and theyapologized for just, like, yoinking
the video and, you know, notasking for it, but it's still the
craziest thing in the world.
It's definitely one of, like,it's definitely a top five moment.
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I can't say it's.
It's not top three becauseI've been to the US opc, like, headquarters
and the, like, the Olympic andParalympic facility.
So, like, that's always gonnabe like, I held an Olympic torch.
Actually, like, I've held anOlympic torch.
So, like, yeah, I don't.
So, like, there's.
When it comes to, like, theI've made it moments, there's.
Wait, there's a lot of those things.
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So.
Yeah.
That'S amazing.
So, like, what is.
You know, I think youmentioned the celebrity clip being
one of the greatest moments inTPS and history.
Like, what's your MountRushmore of, like, the greatest moments
in TPS and history?
The Tyler Tafoli sending me avideo welcoming me as a Sharks fan
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is definitely on the list.
Dude, that's a hard list to make.
The US Headquarters.
I'll just put the whole tripinto one thing instead of, like.
Because the holding an Olympictorch, the.
Just that entire.
Just me being with the.
The USOPC and all of that,that was super sick.
So that's number two, StanleyCup Final.
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Just that entire experience initself, touching the Stanley cup,
like, all of that.
Meeting Phil.
That's definitely number three.
And I'll say number four, I'llput the.
I'll put the Macklin Celebrini video.
I'll put that one up there.
Being on tv, that's sick.
And then honorable mentionmeeting Chuck Aoki just because he's
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one of the most decoratedParalympians, like, that we've got.
Most decorated wheelchairrugby player in U.S. u.S. Paralympic
history.
Super cool guy.
And, like, I've been workingwith his Paralympic collective for
a year, and I just met him in August.
And it was, like, random too,because I was just like, I was flying
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back from Montreal and he's just.
We're just so happened to bein the same airport.
That's awesome.
That's why.
I mean, small.
Small world.
Yeah, super small world.
He's like, oh, yeah.
I'm like, I'm in the Chicago airport.
He's like, you're in Chicago?
I'm like, oh, yeah.
Like, dude, I'm in Thisairport, too.
I'm like, what?
What a. I'm like, where areyou at?
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And I said, I'm in.
I'm in.
Said whatever term terminal woman.
And then I looked over andhe's wheeling up to me.
I'm like, yo, what's good, dog?
Such a cool experience.
Such a cool guy, too.
So in February, you were at700 followers.
Now you're at over 40k.
Where do you see yourself andTrail Park Sports Network in the
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next two to three years?
Honestly, I don't know.
I haven't really planned thatfar ahead.
I didn't even think I wasgonna make it this far, being honest.
I definitely have to startplanning stuff out a little bit more.
But I. TV maybe, you know,maybe try and call games or, you
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know, be more involved withthe growth of the game.
Try that.
But I don't know.
I've honestly.
I'm honestly just like,surprised I'm in this position that
I'm in currently.
Absolutely.
So tv, you know, talking somepotential collaborations.
I don't know if you've watchedthe LA county, the Fire benefit hockey
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game, the charity one they hadout there.
That was electric.
I thought Snoop's commentarywas electric.
That was such a cool, cool game.
But all these famous people,you know, if you could collaborate
with any athlete, you know,you know, of any sport or any famous
person to kind of level upthat TPS and, you know, the impact,
who would it be?
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The Woodalls.
Definitely the Woodalls.
They're great people.
Tara and Hunter, they're suchgreat people.
They do so much for the sportsworld, and they do an insane amount
for the parasports world.
It would just be awesome to,like, be with them, even just interview
them or, like, work with themon something.
Like, they're doing so muchand they're.
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Hunter's one of the morefamous Paralympians out there, and
he's doing everything he canto, like, give Paralympians a level
of respect that they deserve.
And it'd be awesome to workwith them to just, like, TPSN is
great, but, like, I would loveto boost Paralympic athletes with
the platform.
I think that'd just be sick.
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That's awesome.
I agree.
I think that would be huge.
Huge or I guess alone.
Amar Alonamar, too, for sure.
Yeah.
Dude, she's sick.
She's so cool.
She's.
She just, like, has.
She has the most fun ever, too.
Yeah.
Her and was a Danny Amendolaon Dancing with the Stars together.
Like, awesome.
Awesome people.
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Awesome people.
So we Talked about a bunch.
Hockey, your content, para sports.
Is there anything that wedidn't mention that you might want
to get the word out about ortalk about?
TPSN merch dropped.
I guess that's.
I guess that's one.
Like, the only things is like,the TPSN merch is officially live.
I'm personally, at least forthis first drop, I'm going to eat
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the shipping cost on everything.
It's.
Is it hurting?
Yeah.
Am I not.
Am I making any profit?
Nope.
Do I care?
Not really.
I just want people to be ableto rock TPS and merch if they want
to rock TPS and merch, youknow, so I'm gonna eat the shipping
cost and bring it to the people.
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There's definitely gonna be alot more stuff coming out later.
And also there's gonna be somepodcast stuff.
I will be doing interviewswith our USA bobsled and skeleton
team before and after theOlympic Games.
So we're gonna get some, like,how do you feel leading up to it?
How do you feel, you know, nowthat it's all over?
Stuff like that.
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They had their races lastnight at the brand new track in Milan,
so that's pretty sick to see.
First races that Milan, thatbrand new track has hosted so far.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I know.
I'll be picking up some merch,that's for sure.
So on our podcast, you know,all the episodes we've done, we kind
of wrap things up with, youknow, one final question.
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And I know you've got a lotgoing on.
You're trying a lot, you'redoing a lot.
What is, you know, yourdefinition of development?
And that could be like anything.
Like, because you've obviouslyhad to develop quite a bit rapidly
too.
My definition of development,it's an interesting one.
I just like growth in generalgoing from, like, I don't really
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care if you're going like, slow.
Like, you're, you know, slowroll is better than no roll, you
know, like, even if you'rejust barely improving, if you went
from, you know, 5% to 6%,that's development to me.
If, you know, like any tinypiece of, like, improvement, self
improvement, you know, evenif, like, you improve something else,
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you know, that's developing insome way, shape or form.
To me, like, just movingforward, you need to continue to
move forward and grow and move up.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if that.
I don't know if thatnecessarily answers your question,
but.
No, it does it perfectlybecause Chuck and I talk about it
all the time and one of thegreatest companies on the planet
that I work for on and off O2Xhuman performance, who, oddly enough,
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help Dallas Cowboys Dax DakPrescott brings them in every year
to work with quarterbacks and receivers.
It's fantastic.
You should check them out.
But we talk about getting 1%better every day.
If you haven't checked out, avideo talks about Team sky and their
Olympics and the Tour deFrance to getting 1% better every
day and how they went frombeing like worst to winning all these
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Olympic medals and Tour de France.
It's a cool video.
Oh yeah, it's always aboutgetting 1% better.
It was one of those things wepreached when I was in college.
My receiver coach always saidslow roll is better than no roll.
He also said slow is smooth,smooth is fast.
That was something that I feellike more kids need to realize.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
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All right, well, so Eric and Ihave been talking a while about getting
you on having a niceconversation with you.
Man.
This is awesome.
Yeah, it was so.
Well, thanks for joining us onthe Sharpening your Edge.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate you guys for the opportunity.
Hope I didn't talk your headoff too much.
Nah man, this was a fun conversation.
I loved it and I had this hourfly flew by.
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I love it.
Oh yeah, it is.
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