July 1, 2025 • 27 mins
What happens when you stop hiding what makes you different and instead turn it into your superpower? Meet Lachi, a chart-topping recording artist and fierce advocate who's revolutionizing how the music industry approaches disability inclusion.
Born legally blind, she spent years concealing her disability until a pivotal missed opportunity with an A&R executive changed everything. Embracing her blind identity – bejeweled cane and all – she discovered authenticity wasn't just liberating; it was magnetic.
This revelation led her to found RAMPD (Recording Artists and Music Professionals with Disability), an organization transforming how the industry approaches disability. Her advocacy reaches the highest levels – from creating a Disability and Inclusion Task Force at the Recording Academy to launching Glam Canes, and becoming such a regular guest at the Biden White House that she “knew how to roam the halls.”
Lachi reframes disability not as limitation but as strength: "Disability is humanity." Whether you're a music industry professional or someone seeking inspiration, her story proves that when you refuse to compromise who you are, you create spaces where everyone can thrive.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hi, you're listening to Sarah Nagourney and welcome
to.
She Creates Noise, a newpodcast spotlighting women who
power the music industry, comingto you from New York City.
Now, if you don't know me yet,here's a little background.
I'm a songwriter, producer,manager, educator and mentor.
I've written platinum-sellingsongs, had tracks on
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Grammy-nominated records andreleased music on both major and
independent labels.
I've been a jazz singer, ajingle singer, toured with big
bands and became a pop artist,and I've performed at festivals
across the US, europe and Asia.
These days, I focus on writingwith and developing young talent
.
In the coming weeks, I'll bepulling back the curtain on the
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music industry's femalechangemakers.
Some are close friends, othersI'm just getting to know, but
all have reshaped the businessin profound ways.
My goal here is to helplisteners better understand how
the music business really worksand just how instrumental women
behind the scenes have been.
You'll hear from both sides ofthe desk artists, producers,
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managers, label executives,lawyers.
Women making things happen,often without the spotlight on
them.
Thank you for joining me onthis journey.
Now let's dive in.
Today's guest is Lachi.
Lachi is a world-touringrecording artist, a dynamic
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media personality andaward-winning social
entrepreneur, known for hercharting collaborations with
global brands and top names indance music.
Personally, I've known Glotchifor maybe eight years.
We've kind of been in the sameorbit.
We have similar friends.
She's super awesome.
She's recognized by the ShortyAwards, ad Age's Leading Women
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and Afrotech's Future 50.
Her groundbreaking advocacy hasbeen featured in Billboard,
forbes, the New York Times andUSA Today, which named her a
2024 Woman of the Year.
She was also named Innovator ofthe Year by Ed Culler as host
of the PBS digital seriesRenegades and founder of RAMPT,
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which stands for RecordingArtists and Music Professionals
with Disability.
Lachi is a leading voice fordisability inclusion and
identity pride in the musicindustry and beyond.
She currently serves as aRecording Academy trustee and
was formerly a board governor inthe New York chapter.
She sits on multiple industryboards and regularly keynotes
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and performs for majororganizations, including at the
White House, amazon and Google,and as July is Disability Pride
Month, this will be airing thenand I'm very happy to time it
for that exciting event.
Thank you, lachi, it's great tohave you.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So great to be here Yay.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now you've built an incredible career as both a
recording artist and a fierceadvocate for inclusion.
Tell us how this activism cameabout.
Did you envision your artistryand activism evolving together?
Did one lead to the other?
Tell us a little bit about yourjourney.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know what I, when I started in the music industry
, I asked somebody if they couldmake me famous and they said no
.
So then I decided to turnaround and just make this whole
amazing and just make this wholeamazing organization and
platform that would say yes topeople like me.
So just for a little bit ofbackground, I was born legally
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blind.
I am a daughter of immigrants.
I am a lover of all thingsentertainment, music, comedy,
all of the things.
And I remember when I asked myparents I was like I want to be
a comedian and a musician and awriter and an entertainer, just
like the folks on TV, and theywere like that's not how you
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spell doctor.
So I didn't really have the.
I don't want to say that mymother wasn't supportive, but
you know she wanted me to go adifferent route.
And growing up as a young womanof color with a disability, you
know I was super duper, outcastand I turned to the keys right
for just to try to figure out myown emotions and to try to help
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the world figure myself out.
And I found my confidence inmusic.
But as I got older and as Iwanted to really get into the
industry, it wasn't the easiest.
Folks didn't understand me,folks didn't get it and I didn't
understand myself.
I didn't know what my placewould be here and, as a woman
who's blind, I had to use a cane.
But I didn't use my canebecause I didn't want people to,
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I didn't want to alienatemyself.
But the problem was I wasactually shooting myself in the
foot because I wasn't performingmy best right, because I wasn't
accommodating myself and Iwasn't asking folks for
accommodation just to not, youknow, ruffle feathers.
And as I got into bigger andbetter rooms in the industry, I
started realizing, bro, I needto get my shit together.
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And so I did.
I started really leaning in andI started to realize that I was
a working professional musician, slash artist, and I didn't see
other people like me up in mystratosphere.
And that was really thebeginning of what eventually
became Ramped, which is my bigsort of organization that
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supports working musicprofessionals and creators with
disabilities and neurodivergence, all the while working on my
career.
So, long story short, the musicindustry was not built for
people like me to get yeses, andso I decided to build an
industry for people like me toget yeses.
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That's so impressive.
With that it just becomesnatural to have my art and my
advocacy blend.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's something I wanted to talk to you a little
bit about Ramped, which Iunderstand it's to champion
disability culture in the musicindustry.
I mean, I know you've been sortof covering that disability
culture.
How do you see the industryneeding to shift?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
At the end of the day , the music industry, it strives
off of exploitation and, youknow, looks and superficialness
and things like that, and thatis already starting to shift.
We're starting to seeauthenticity.
We're starting to see peoplecaring about their mental health
or at least starting to talkabout it.
Yes, mental health is a bit ofa buzzword right now, but I
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think it's good to start gettingfolks thinking about how
they're feeling and recognizingthat maybe they have anxiety or
depression and that they cantalk about it.
And so RAMPT is coming at thisreally sort of crux in folks
recognizing their identity,recognizing that that can be a
part of their art.
Also recognizing that they're ahuman being and not just a
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production machine.
Right, just making, making,making, building, building and
not taking time to heal and grow.
And so really, what Ramped isessentially trying to do is
we're trying to work with themusic industry, like work with
different music giants, musiccompanies, music labels, et
cetera, to equip them with thetools and resources needed to
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support working musicprofessionals with disabilities.
It's not just a one-off thing,so it's not necessarily music
cares, where they help you outof a situation if you become
temporarily disabled or you getsick.
It's not backlined, because it'snot about helping you seek
therapy or anything of that sort.
What it is is, on the one hand,we're a consultancy group.
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So we consult the musicindustry, whether that's
trainings, whether that isconsultations on just how to be
more disability inclusive, notjust for the quote, unquote
disabled population, but withintheir work constraints, within
their crew or their team ortheir staff, to recognize the
disability and neurodivergenceit's okay within the team you
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serve, the people you serve andthe people you serve with.
On the other hand, we're also anetworking platform.
So if anyone who identifies asa person with a disability or a
person with neurodivergence or achronic condition or mental
health condition, they're freeto join the network and really
it's peer vetted, so you're kindof vetted as a working
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professional or a workingcreator, so that we can really
kind of have some kind of reinson this thing.
Or else everyone willeventually be like wait, hold on
, I have something.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I know, isn't that true?
I think everyone should joinright now.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Exactly.
Well, you know.
It's so funny that you just saythat because you know, at the
end of the day, when we saydisability, yeah sure it
encompasses physical disability,sensory disability.
You know, you generally thinkof folks who are blind or deaf
or has a wheelchair, or maybeautism.
But when we think of thingslike neurodivergence, that also
includes ADHD, dyslexia.
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When we talk about mentalhealth conditions, that includes
anxiety, that includesdepression, that includes
bipolar.
When we talk about chronicconditions, that can include
everything from arthritis todiabetes, to asthma, to lupus,
to chronic back pain, right,immune deficiencies.
It starts to get to a pointwhere everyone's like all right,
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so we're all disabled.
Now what Right?
So we peer vet to make surefolks are in the music industry.
But I like to say that, becausedisability is humanity Like, we
all have something that God orGaia or whoever gave us so that
we can overcompensate, bedifferent, be unique, use that
to innovate, to have drive, tobe determined to be problem
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solvers, and that's whydisability has evolved with us
all this time.
And so, really, what Rant istrying to shift to answer your
question is the stigmaassociated with the thing that
makes us the strongest.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So interesting and such an unusual outlook on
mankind, really.
You know how we all are thesame in a way, and you know,
really impressive.
You're so articulate and youreally present what you're doing
so beautifully.
You've also hosted PBS'sRenegades, yes, and you're
serving on the Recording Academyboard yes.
(10:21):
These are two huge platformsand I know I've heard you talk a
little bit about some of thethings you've done with the
Recording Academy and theGrammys.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
With Renegades really quickly.
That was a really fun situation.
So it is a PBS American Mastersseries that recently won a
Webby, so we're very excitedabout that.
It's a digital series thatcelebrates unsung heroes with
disabilities that helped shapeAmerica.
The entire crew were folks withdisabilities.
The series creator was a blindwoman of color, and so it was
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really awesome to be the hostand the front face of something
that was just so awesome andinstrumental and monumental.
And, yes, we were a digitalseries, but we also got to air
on broadcast.
So we're there and we're inrotation.
You'll see my smiling face upon your PBS screen.
Yeah, I'm going to check thatout.
Actually.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Absolutely.
I use PBS Passport a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Do you oh?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Either way, we're on the PBS app, we're on the PBS
YouTube, so if you can't catchit live, you can definitely just
check it out for free online.
And then, as for the RecordingAcademy, yes, girl, it's so
funny.
I didn't really become activeuntil 2019.
Right before COVID, I did myfirst District Advocate Day,
which is where the entireRecording Academy gets together
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and talks to their local sort ofdistrict person in the
government.
I think I saw you there,actually, yeah, and we talk
about whatever the RecordingAcademy is supporting at the
time, whether it's the HITS Act,whether it's, at that time, I
think it was the MusicModernization Act and a few
others.
And I remember they were likeoh, we're going to need people
to come and just sort of sayyour story and just sit in front
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of a congressperson.
But I took it super literallyand I like memorized the bills
and I like looked at what mycongressperson had voted for in
the past that were similar.
So when we got there, everybodywas saying their stories and we
were going in a circle and thecongressperson was there, their
person was there, and when itwas my turn, I'm sitting there
with like a notebook full ofnotes and I go over it and I'm
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like well, here's what yousupported in the past and this
is really important to usbecause if we modernize, you
know.
And so I went deep in and, um,they were just like you belong
in dc.
Yes, and I was like that'sdefinitely not where I going.
These heels do not do well in aswamp.
So, and then the RecordingAcademy noticed and they were
like, okay, well, let's pluckthis one up.
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So I ended up joining theadvocacy committee for the New
York chapter and while I wasthere, they were like hey, what
do you want to talk about?
And that was the first time,because this was just 2020,
right.
And it was the first time whereI got to say like I wanna talk
about disability and inclusion.
And they were just like it wasSharon Tapper at the time and
she was just like okay, likelet's get you a panel, let's
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write a proposal.
And I was like holy what?
So I wrote a proposal, wekicked it up the chain.
Eventually it turned into thishuge digital panel that we did
opposite the leadership of theRecording Academy talking about
disability, and it was so funnybecause nobody had shit to do,
right, because it was COVID.
So that ended up blowing up andbecoming this amazing thing.
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And then that was essentiallyhow Ramped started.
And then, as we kind of fastforward, I was just super active
.
I became co-chair of advocacyand then, because Ramped had
started so closely to theRecording Academy.
They were our first sort ofpartner and in 2022, we
consulted the Recording Academyto have ASL sign language on the
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red carpet.
We were the ones that kind ofadvocated for that circular dais
.
Now that you guys see duringthe award ceremony.
That is actually a what do youwant to call it.
It's an accessible dais, soactually a wheelchair user could
go up there if they wanted towin an award.
And so they were our first sortof partner, which got us on the
New York Times, which got us onBillboard, which got us on
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Forbes and you know, rant wasstill just amorphous, so we
didn't even have a bank accountand we were receiving funds and
grants.
So I definitely have theRecording Academy to thank and
receiving funds and grants, so Idefinitely have the Recording
Academy to thank.
And then, like two months afterthat, I got elected to the board
.
So I've been on the New YorkChapter board since 2022.
Since then, I've created aDisability and Inclusion Task
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Force in the New York Chapter.
I've served on the Songwriterand Composer's Wing.
I've served on the Dance MusicCommittee.
I served on the NationalMembership Committee.
I've served pretty mucheverywhere.
I am very well known all over mychapter, but I love it.
I love it because I always seeit as an honor and a privilege,
especially as somebody whoconstantly builds their own
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table, constantly.
You know, if a door is slammed,I build my own door, climb out
a window and so to actually bein the thick of the industry and
getting to talk about what I'mtalking about.
Getting elected to trustee witheveryone knowing what I do,
right, there's no, there'snothing hidden.
I'm not like afraid to talkabout the things I like to talk
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about, and everyone knows me.
And then they still elected meto trustee, right, and so it's
that knowing what my platform is, and so it's just an honor and
it's such a privilege.
So I take my service at theRecording Academy super
seriously and I just I have alot of friends there.
It's definitely my family andmy home and and it's and again
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it is a huge, huge friend to theRecording Academy.
Shout out to the Dream team,the DEI team, ricky and Jessica
and all those folks over there.
It's just been really greatworking with them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
She creates noise.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yes, I love being involved with the Recording
Academy.
I also mentor for them.
It's wonderful.
It's a wonderful place to givesupport and be involved with.
I was trying to think of someother.
There's tons of things I couldask you I know I've spoken about
on a lighter note, justthinking of something that fans
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would be surprised to learnabout you.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh wow, something that fans would be surprised to
learn about me.
Well, the first thing I'll sayis that I am very.
Everything is out there for themost part.
There's just a lot of stuff outthere that I don't kind of keep
hidden.
But an interesting thing that Ithink people would know about
me is should I share this story?
I have so many little likestory tidbits.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I did talk to Arthur about it.
He picked this question as onehe thought would be fun for you.
Well, I mean there's.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
There was a time when I went to the White House
because there was like two years, you know, when Kamala Harris
and Joe Biden were in the WhiteHouse where I don't know what
happened.
But we were all just sister,girl, girlfriend, hangout folks
and they invited me to the WhiteHouse like a million times.
So I was at the White Housemore than my own house, right To
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the point where I was like Iknew how to roam the halls.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This is something I didn't know.
Oh yeah, girl always.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I went to the White House in 2024 alone.
I went to the White House likesix times and they would send
postcards and it would be signedby, you know, joe, jill and
Willow the dog and stuff likethat.
So I go there all the time andwe would always have like we
would always be the best dressed.
So I would wear like a pinkgown and have a pink cane and
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just be walking down the WhiteHouse halls I knew, like all of
the Secret Service and all ofthe Navy staff that would be
outside.
That's a fun little tidbit thatyou know I would love to share.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That's crazy.
I had no idea.
I was going to ask you a littlebit about you visiting the
White House, but I didn't knowthat you practically live there.
Yeah, it's impressive Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Well, I mean honestly too, because they would invite
me to stuff that didn't reallylike make sense.
It would just be like why am Iat this random, you know NATO
summit?
But it would just be like Ithink I think they just liked
how fun I was.
It's this young woman of colorwith a cane and dressed to the
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nines, and every time I show upit's a different outfit and it's
some crazy heels.
And I mean I think I think youknow loosely, they liked my
advocacy work, you know, likethe disability inclusion is
great to have around is what itwas.
I was just a fun little personto have around, and so they just
kept bringing me back.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Well, that's definitely something I didn't
know.
I know you also are involvedwith glam canes.
Please tell us a little bitabout that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So glam canes is really just the best thing ever.
So what a glam cane is?
It's a bejeweled rhinestonecane, whether it's a blind cane,
whether it's a mobility cane,whether it's a quad walker or
whatever, right.
And they started out as justcanes for the blind and we're
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expanding now.
But the reason glam canes cameabout was, you know, when I was
younger let's say eight, seven,that type of deal the social
workers came to my mom and theysaid she's going to start
needing to use a cane.
And I was just like no way.
You know, they brought me thecane and I was like that's not
happening, I'm already beingpicked on in school, like I
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don't want to add to it.
So I go my whole life not usingthe cane.
And I remember one time thisA&R guy invites me to like this
gala party, right.
And so I was still trying tobreak at that time, right?
So I was like oh my God, I'minvited to a gala, oh my God.
So I go and it's like a dimlylit sort of cocktail hour and I
get there and I don't knowanyone and I don't have a cane
or anything to navigate in itand I can't really see.
So I hang on the corner andthen I eventually leave without
talking to anyone.
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And later I found out that thatA&R had tried to wave me over
and felt snubbed when I didn'trespond and when I just kind of
darted off and I lost thatopportunity.
We were talking about apotential signing, right.
So I was super devastated and Iknew something had to change.
So I started using just thelittle plain Jane white cane and
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I started realizing that it washelping me get around.
But then I started being likeyou know, listen, I'm wearing
these gorgeous gowns, I'mwearing these wonderful dresses.
You know, as I got into biggerand better parties and I was
like, okay, this little whiteand red cane doesn't match
everything, so I'm going to needit to be an extension of my
personality and my outfits.
And lo and behold, glam canescame about.
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And now when I go to parties orcocktail hours, a well, I can
navigate right Because I've gotthe cane but B it's a
conversation starter.
People know to come to me rightInstead of waving and not.
I mean you've seen me at theseparties.
Oh, my God it's the way youdress, head to toe in every way.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You're just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's all part of it, and so what ended up happening
was people started seeing mewith the canes and they were
like where can I get one for mydaughter or you know where can I
get one?
And so we started selling them,and now we see them everywhere,
and it really kind of my heartgrows three sizes too large
whenever I see a young girl orguy graduating with a glam cane,
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or on a first date or justtaking it to work or going to a
fancy ball or a gala, and soit's just been a great way to
not only celebrate my differenceand my disability, but to
combat the erasure right thatI'd been contributing to myself
right by not using it.
One thing I wanted to say toois like something that a lot of
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people don't know is that only15% of folks who are blind are
totally blind, so 85% of blindfolks have some form of vision
as well.
Only 2 to 5% use a cane or adog right, so the symbols of
blindness are only used by 2 to5%.
I don't know how good you areat math, but the way that all
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kind of comes together is thatthe majority of blind people are
walking around without an aiddue to stigma, and so they're
just kind of free-balling it outhere, right, and that's part of
what Glam Canes is trying to doTrying to be like hey look, you
need this, so use it, and youmay as well look stylish while
you're using it.
That's great, what a great idea.
Love that.
Glamcanescom guys.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Glamcanescom that's something I'm happy to advertise
.
Just finishing up a bit, youknow you've had this incredible
chart success speaking at theWhite House and multiple visits
to the White House navigated popculture and policy For younger
artists coming up.
What's the most honest adviceyou'd give to someone building a
career about, you know, beingauthentic and impactful.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, first and foremost, never compromise who
you are Like, never compromise.
I made so many compromises andwhat's going to end up happening
is you will eventually get to apoint where you stop
compromising and you feel thisimmense liberation.
So I wish I could have told myprevious self not to compromise,
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and so this is my way of doingthat.
Secondarily, I always saylisten, really work on your
craft, hone it, know it, love itand be about it.
Because I don't believe there'sany such thing as luck.
I believe that there's beingprepared and putting yourself
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out there and the right personwill eventually see you.
I mean, luck is just a numbersgame, but if you are prepared
and you're ready and you're thatit already, eventually that
situation will happen for you ifyou continue to put yourself
out there.
So it requires two things itrequires being awesome at your
craft, but it also requiresputting yourself out there.
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Those are two difficult things.
It's not easy to put yourselfout there.
What makes it easy is if youdon't compromise yourself.
A lot of the times we're soafraid to put ourselves out
there because we're afraid ofpotentially judgment or someone
not liking what we're doing orwhatnot.
But if you accept the deepestpart of yourself that maybe
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society tells you to hide orsociety tells you is limiting
and you just accept it for thebeauty it is.
That is the truest form ofauthenticity and it really helps
a lot of that anxiety sort ofjust melt off and nobody can
tell you nothing.
So those would be my two thingsof advice.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Authenticity just cuts through.
I mean when people are reallybeing who they are.
Everyone notices.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Fortune favors the authentic, and it's also
infectious.
It makes other people feelsuper comfortable and then they
want to be around you more.
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's so interesting to speak to you, I just wonder
if there's anything that wemissed that you'd really like to
mention.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
No, I mean honestly.
We've covered so many things.
I will say that if you orsomeone you know is a music
professional or a music creatorthat has a disability
neurodivergence come check usout at rampedorg.
That's R-A-M-P-Dorg.
Check me out at Lachi MusicL-A-C-H-I-M-U-S-I-C.
On all socials I am constantlyreleasing music.
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We just released severalsingles in a row and releasing
an acoustic EP called theUncomfortable EP, so check that
out.
And, lastly, we will bereleasing.
I'm currently writing a bookwith Penguin Random House called
I Identify as Blind, which willbe out top of January, but
we're going to be promoting thecrap out of it in a couple of
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months here, so please staytuned.
Constant dates, always touring,always speaking.
So keep it locked on ourwebsite and and just stick with
us.
Stick with the kid.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Absolutely, and I will put some of these links and
anything you can share with me.
I'll put some of these links inthe website, but also in the
podcast when it is releasingPerfect, these links in the
website, but also in the podcastwhen it is releasing Perfect.
And it's just been sointeresting to speak with you
and I know I'll see you around,as I always do.
But thanks again for joining us.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Thank you so much for having me this has been a blast
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She creates noise.
She creates noise.
She creates noise.
We hear her voice.
She creates noise.
Hi, you're listening to Sarah Nagourney and welcome
to.
She Creates Noise, a newpodcast spotlighting women who
power the music industry, comingto you from New York City.
Now, if you don't know me yet,here's a little background.
I'm a songwriter, producer,manager, educator and mentor.
I've written platinum-sellingsongs, had tracks on
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Grammy-nominated records andreleased music on both major and
independent labels.
I've been a jazz singer, ajingle singer, toured with big
bands and became a pop artist,and I've performed at festivals
across the US, europe and Asia.
These days, I focus on writingwith and developing young talent
.
In the coming weeks, I'll bepulling back the curtain on the
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music industry's femalechangemakers.
Some are close friends, othersI'm just getting to know, but
all have reshaped the businessin profound ways.
My goal here is to helplisteners better understand how
the music business really worksand just how instrumental women
behind the scenes have been.
You'll hear from both sides ofthe desk artists, producers,
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managers, label executives,lawyers.
Women making things happen,often without the spotlight on
them.
Thank you for joining me onthis journey.
Now let's dive in.
Today's guest is Lachi.
Lachi is a world-touringrecording artist, a dynamic
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media personality andaward-winning social
entrepreneur, known for hercharting collaborations with
global brands and top names indance music.
Personally, I've known Glotchifor maybe eight years.
We've kind of been in the sameorbit.
We have similar friends.
She's super awesome.
She's recognized by the ShortyAwards, ad Age's Leading Women
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and Afrotech's Future 50.
Her groundbreaking advocacy hasbeen featured in Billboard,
forbes, the New York Times andUSA Today, which named her a
2024 Woman of the Year.
She was also named Innovator ofthe Year by Ed Culler as host
of the PBS digital seriesRenegades and founder of RAMPT,
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which stands for RecordingArtists and Music Professionals
with Disability.
Lachi is a leading voice fordisability inclusion and
identity pride in the musicindustry and beyond.
She currently serves as aRecording Academy trustee and
was formerly a board governor inthe New York chapter.
She sits on multiple industryboards and regularly keynotes
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and performs for majororganizations, including at the
White House, amazon and Google,and as July is Disability Pride
Month, this will be airing thenand I'm very happy to time it
for that exciting event.
Thank you, lachi, it's great tohave you.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So great to be here Yay.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Now you've built an incredible career as both a
recording artist and a fierceadvocate for inclusion.
Tell us how this activism cameabout.
Did you envision your artistryand activism evolving together?
Did one lead to the other?
Tell us a little bit about yourjourney.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know what I, when I started in the music industry
, I asked somebody if they couldmake me famous and they said no
.
So then I decided to turnaround and just make this whole
amazing and just make this wholeamazing organization and
platform that would say yes topeople like me.
So just for a little bit ofbackground, I was born legally
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blind.
I am a daughter of immigrants.
I am a lover of all thingsentertainment, music, comedy,
all of the things.
And I remember when I asked myparents I was like I want to be
a comedian and a musician and awriter and an entertainer, just
like the folks on TV, and theywere like that's not how you
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spell doctor.
So I didn't really have the.
I don't want to say that mymother wasn't supportive, but
you know she wanted me to go adifferent route.
And growing up as a young womanof color with a disability, you
know I was super duper, outcastand I turned to the keys right
for just to try to figure out myown emotions and to try to help
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the world figure myself out.
And I found my confidence inmusic.
But as I got older and as Iwanted to really get into the
industry, it wasn't the easiest.
Folks didn't understand me,folks didn't get it and I didn't
understand myself.
I didn't know what my placewould be here and, as a woman
who's blind, I had to use a cane.
But I didn't use my canebecause I didn't want people to,
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I didn't want to alienatemyself.
But the problem was I wasactually shooting myself in the
foot because I wasn't performingmy best right, because I wasn't
accommodating myself and Iwasn't asking folks for
accommodation just to not, youknow, ruffle feathers.
And as I got into bigger andbetter rooms in the industry, I
started realizing, bro, I needto get my shit together.
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And so I did.
I started really leaning in andI started to realize that I was
a working professional musician, slash artist, and I didn't see
other people like me up in mystratosphere.
And that was really thebeginning of what eventually
became Ramped, which is my bigsort of organization that
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supports working musicprofessionals and creators with
disabilities and neurodivergence, all the while working on my
career.
So, long story short, the musicindustry was not built for
people like me to get yeses, andso I decided to build an
industry for people like me toget yeses.
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That's so impressive.
With that it just becomesnatural to have my art and my
advocacy blend.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's something I wanted to talk to you a little
bit about Ramped, which Iunderstand it's to champion
disability culture in the musicindustry.
I mean, I know you've been sortof covering that disability
culture.
How do you see the industryneeding to shift?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
At the end of the day , the music industry, it strives
off of exploitation and, youknow, looks and superficialness
and things like that, and thatis already starting to shift.
We're starting to seeauthenticity.
We're starting to see peoplecaring about their mental health
or at least starting to talkabout it.
Yes, mental health is a bit ofa buzzword right now, but I
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think it's good to start gettingfolks thinking about how
they're feeling and recognizingthat maybe they have anxiety or
depression and that they cantalk about it.
And so RAMPT is coming at thisreally sort of crux in folks
recognizing their identity,recognizing that that can be a
part of their art.
Also recognizing that they're ahuman being and not just a
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production machine.
Right, just making, making,making, building, building and
not taking time to heal and grow.
And so really, what Ramped isessentially trying to do is
we're trying to work with themusic industry, like work with
different music giants, musiccompanies, music labels, et
cetera, to equip them with thetools and resources needed to
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support working musicprofessionals with disabilities.
It's not just a one-off thing,so it's not necessarily music
cares, where they help you outof a situation if you become
temporarily disabled or you getsick.
It's not backlined, because it'snot about helping you seek
therapy or anything of that sort.
What it is is, on the one hand,we're a consultancy group.
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So we consult the musicindustry, whether that's
trainings, whether that isconsultations on just how to be
more disability inclusive, notjust for the quote, unquote
disabled population, but withintheir work constraints, within
their crew or their team ortheir staff, to recognize the
disability and neurodivergenceit's okay within the team you
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serve, the people you serve andthe people you serve with.
On the other hand, we're also anetworking platform.
So if anyone who identifies asa person with a disability or a
person with neurodivergence or achronic condition or mental
health condition, they're freeto join the network and really
it's peer vetted, so you're kindof vetted as a working
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professional or a workingcreator, so that we can really
kind of have some kind of reinson this thing.
Or else everyone willeventually be like wait, hold on
, I have something.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I know, isn't that true?
I think everyone should joinright now.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Exactly.
Well, you know.
It's so funny that you just saythat because you know, at the
end of the day, when we saydisability, yeah sure it
encompasses physical disability,sensory disability.
You know, you generally thinkof folks who are blind or deaf
or has a wheelchair, or maybeautism.
But when we think of thingslike neurodivergence, that also
includes ADHD, dyslexia.
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When we talk about mentalhealth conditions, that includes
anxiety, that includesdepression, that includes
bipolar.
When we talk about chronicconditions, that can include
everything from arthritis todiabetes, to asthma, to lupus,
to chronic back pain, right,immune deficiencies.
It starts to get to a pointwhere everyone's like all right,
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so we're all disabled.
Now what Right?
So we peer vet to make surefolks are in the music industry.
But I like to say that, becausedisability is humanity Like, we
all have something that God orGaia or whoever gave us so that
we can overcompensate, bedifferent, be unique, use that
to innovate, to have drive, tobe determined to be problem
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solvers, and that's whydisability has evolved with us
all this time.
And so, really, what Rant istrying to shift to answer your
question is the stigmaassociated with the thing that
makes us the strongest.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So interesting and such an unusual outlook on
mankind, really.
You know how we all are thesame in a way, and you know,
really impressive.
You're so articulate and youreally present what you're doing
so beautifully.
You've also hosted PBS'sRenegades, yes, and you're
serving on the Recording Academyboard yes.
(10:21):
These are two huge platformsand I know I've heard you talk a
little bit about some of thethings you've done with the
Recording Academy and theGrammys.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
With Renegades really quickly.
That was a really fun situation.
So it is a PBS American Mastersseries that recently won a
Webby, so we're very excitedabout that.
It's a digital series thatcelebrates unsung heroes with
disabilities that helped shapeAmerica.
The entire crew were folks withdisabilities.
The series creator was a blindwoman of color, and so it was
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really awesome to be the hostand the front face of something
that was just so awesome andinstrumental and monumental.
And, yes, we were a digitalseries, but we also got to air
on broadcast.
So we're there and we're inrotation.
You'll see my smiling face upon your PBS screen.
Yeah, I'm going to check thatout.
Actually.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Absolutely.
I use PBS Passport a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Do you oh?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Either way, we're on the PBS app, we're on the PBS
YouTube, so if you can't catchit live, you can definitely just
check it out for free online.
And then, as for the RecordingAcademy, yes, girl, it's so
funny.
I didn't really become activeuntil 2019.
Right before COVID, I did myfirst District Advocate Day,
which is where the entireRecording Academy gets together
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and talks to their local sort ofdistrict person in the
government.
I think I saw you there,actually, yeah, and we talk
about whatever the RecordingAcademy is supporting at the
time, whether it's the HITS Act,whether it's, at that time, I
think it was the MusicModernization Act and a few
others.
And I remember they were likeoh, we're going to need people
to come and just sort of sayyour story and just sit in front
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of a congressperson.
But I took it super literallyand I like memorized the bills
and I like looked at what mycongressperson had voted for in
the past that were similar.
So when we got there, everybodywas saying their stories and we
were going in a circle and thecongressperson was there, their
person was there, and when itwas my turn, I'm sitting there
with like a notebook full ofnotes and I go over it and I'm
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like well, here's what yousupported in the past and this
is really important to usbecause if we modernize, you
know.
And so I went deep in and, um,they were just like you belong
in dc.
Yes, and I was like that'sdefinitely not where I going.
These heels do not do well in aswamp.
So, and then the RecordingAcademy noticed and they were
like, okay, well, let's pluckthis one up.
(12:44):
So I ended up joining theadvocacy committee for the New
York chapter and while I wasthere, they were like hey, what
do you want to talk about?
And that was the first time,because this was just 2020,
right.
And it was the first time whereI got to say like I wanna talk
about disability and inclusion.
And they were just like it wasSharon Tapper at the time and
she was just like okay, likelet's get you a panel, let's
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write a proposal.
And I was like holy what?
So I wrote a proposal, wekicked it up the chain.
Eventually it turned into thishuge digital panel that we did
opposite the leadership of theRecording Academy talking about
disability, and it was so funnybecause nobody had shit to do,
right, because it was COVID.
So that ended up blowing up andbecoming this amazing thing.
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And then that was essentiallyhow Ramped started.
And then, as we kind of fastforward, I was just super active
.
I became co-chair of advocacyand then, because Ramped had
started so closely to theRecording Academy.
They were our first sort ofpartner and in 2022, we
consulted the Recording Academyto have ASL sign language on the
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red carpet.
We were the ones that kind ofadvocated for that circular dais
.
Now that you guys see duringthe award ceremony.
That is actually a what do youwant to call it.
It's an accessible dais, soactually a wheelchair user could
go up there if they wanted towin an award.
And so they were our first sortof partner, which got us on the
New York Times, which got us onBillboard, which got us on
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Forbes and you know, rant wasstill just amorphous, so we
didn't even have a bank accountand we were receiving funds and
grants.
So I definitely have theRecording Academy to thank and
receiving funds and grants, so Idefinitely have the Recording
Academy to thank.
And then, like two months afterthat, I got elected to the board
.
So I've been on the New YorkChapter board since 2022.
Since then, I've created aDisability and Inclusion Task
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Force in the New York Chapter.
I've served on the Songwriterand Composer's Wing.
I've served on the Dance MusicCommittee.
I served on the NationalMembership Committee.
I've served pretty mucheverywhere.
I am very well known all over mychapter, but I love it.
I love it because I always seeit as an honor and a privilege,
especially as somebody whoconstantly builds their own
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table, constantly.
You know, if a door is slammed,I build my own door, climb out
a window and so to actually bein the thick of the industry and
getting to talk about what I'mtalking about.
Getting elected to trustee witheveryone knowing what I do,
right, there's no, there'snothing hidden.
I'm not like afraid to talkabout the things I like to talk
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about, and everyone knows me.
And then they still elected meto trustee, right, and so it's
that knowing what my platform is, and so it's just an honor and
it's such a privilege.
So I take my service at theRecording Academy super
seriously and I just I have alot of friends there.
It's definitely my family andmy home and and it's and again
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it is a huge, huge friend to theRecording Academy.
Shout out to the Dream team,the DEI team, ricky and Jessica
and all those folks over there.
It's just been really greatworking with them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
She creates noise.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yes, I love being involved with the Recording
Academy.
I also mentor for them.
It's wonderful.
It's a wonderful place to givesupport and be involved with.
I was trying to think of someother.
There's tons of things I couldask you I know I've spoken about
on a lighter note, justthinking of something that fans
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would be surprised to learnabout you.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh wow, something that fans would be surprised to
learn about me.
Well, the first thing I'll sayis that I am very.
Everything is out there for themost part.
There's just a lot of stuff outthere that I don't kind of keep
hidden.
But an interesting thing that Ithink people would know about
me is should I share this story?
I have so many little likestory tidbits.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I did talk to Arthur about it.
He picked this question as onehe thought would be fun for you.
Well, I mean there's.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
There was a time when I went to the White House
because there was like two years, you know, when Kamala Harris
and Joe Biden were in the WhiteHouse where I don't know what
happened.
But we were all just sister,girl, girlfriend, hangout folks
and they invited me to the WhiteHouse like a million times.
So I was at the White Housemore than my own house, right To
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the point where I was like Iknew how to roam the halls.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
This is something I didn't know.
Oh yeah, girl always.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I went to the White House in 2024 alone.
I went to the White House likesix times and they would send
postcards and it would be signedby, you know, joe, jill and
Willow the dog and stuff likethat.
So I go there all the time andwe would always have like we
would always be the best dressed.
So I would wear like a pinkgown and have a pink cane and
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just be walking down the WhiteHouse halls I knew, like all of
the Secret Service and all ofthe Navy staff that would be
outside.
That's a fun little tidbit thatyou know I would love to share.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That's crazy.
I had no idea.
I was going to ask you a littlebit about you visiting the
White House, but I didn't knowthat you practically live there.
Yeah, it's impressive Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Well, I mean honestly too, because they would invite
me to stuff that didn't reallylike make sense.
It would just be like why am Iat this random, you know NATO
summit?
But it would just be like Ithink I think they just liked
how fun I was.
It's this young woman of colorwith a cane and dressed to the
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nines, and every time I show upit's a different outfit and it's
some crazy heels.
And I mean I think I think youknow loosely, they liked my
advocacy work, you know, likethe disability inclusion is
great to have around is what itwas.
I was just a fun little personto have around, and so they just
kept bringing me back.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Well, that's definitely something I didn't
know.
I know you also are involvedwith glam canes.
Please tell us a little bitabout that.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So glam canes is really just the best thing ever.
So what a glam cane is?
It's a bejeweled rhinestonecane, whether it's a blind cane,
whether it's a mobility cane,whether it's a quad walker or
whatever, right.
And they started out as justcanes for the blind and we're
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expanding now.
But the reason glam canes cameabout was, you know, when I was
younger let's say eight, seven,that type of deal the social
workers came to my mom and theysaid she's going to start
needing to use a cane.
And I was just like no way.
You know, they brought me thecane and I was like that's not
happening, I'm already beingpicked on in school, like I
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don't want to add to it.
So I go my whole life not usingthe cane.
And I remember one time thisA&R guy invites me to like this
gala party, right.
And so I was still trying tobreak at that time, right?
So I was like oh my God, I'minvited to a gala, oh my God.
So I go and it's like a dimlylit sort of cocktail hour and I
get there and I don't knowanyone and I don't have a cane
or anything to navigate in itand I can't really see.
So I hang on the corner andthen I eventually leave without
talking to anyone.
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And later I found out that thatA&R had tried to wave me over
and felt snubbed when I didn'trespond and when I just kind of
darted off and I lost thatopportunity.
We were talking about apotential signing, right.
So I was super devastated and Iknew something had to change.
So I started using just thelittle plain Jane white cane and
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I started realizing that it washelping me get around.
But then I started being likeyou know, listen, I'm wearing
these gorgeous gowns, I'mwearing these wonderful dresses.
You know, as I got into biggerand better parties and I was
like, okay, this little whiteand red cane doesn't match
everything, so I'm going to needit to be an extension of my
personality and my outfits.
And lo and behold, glam canescame about.
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And now when I go to parties orcocktail hours, a well, I can
navigate right Because I've gotthe cane but B it's a
conversation starter.
People know to come to me rightInstead of waving and not.
I mean you've seen me at theseparties.
Oh, my God it's the way youdress, head to toe in every way.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You're just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's all part of it, and so what ended up happening
was people started seeing mewith the canes and they were
like where can I get one for mydaughter or you know where can I
get one?
And so we started selling them,and now we see them everywhere,
and it really kind of my heartgrows three sizes too large
whenever I see a young girl orguy graduating with a glam cane,
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or on a first date or justtaking it to work or going to a
fancy ball or a gala, and soit's just been a great way to
not only celebrate my differenceand my disability, but to
combat the erasure right thatI'd been contributing to myself
right by not using it.
One thing I wanted to say toois like something that a lot of
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people don't know is that only15% of folks who are blind are
totally blind, so 85% of blindfolks have some form of vision
as well.
Only 2 to 5% use a cane or adog right, so the symbols of
blindness are only used by 2 to5%.
I don't know how good you areat math, but the way that all
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kind of comes together is thatthe majority of blind people are
walking around without an aiddue to stigma, and so they're
just kind of free-balling it outhere, right, and that's part of
what Glam Canes is trying to doTrying to be like hey look, you
need this, so use it, and youmay as well look stylish while
you're using it.
That's great, what a great idea.
Love that.
Glamcanescom guys.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Glamcanescom that's something I'm happy to advertise
.
Just finishing up a bit, youknow you've had this incredible
chart success speaking at theWhite House and multiple visits
to the White House navigated popculture and policy For younger
artists coming up.
What's the most honest adviceyou'd give to someone building a
career about, you know, beingauthentic and impactful.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, first and foremost, never compromise who
you are Like, never compromise.
I made so many compromises andwhat's going to end up happening
is you will eventually get to apoint where you stop
compromising and you feel thisimmense liberation.
So I wish I could have told myprevious self not to compromise,
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and so this is my way of doingthat.
Secondarily, I always saylisten, really work on your
craft, hone it, know it, love itand be about it.
Because I don't believe there'sany such thing as luck.
I believe that there's beingprepared and putting yourself
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out there and the right personwill eventually see you.
I mean, luck is just a numbersgame, but if you are prepared
and you're ready and you're thatit already, eventually that
situation will happen for you ifyou continue to put yourself
out there.
So it requires two things itrequires being awesome at your
craft, but it also requiresputting yourself out there.
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Those are two difficult things.
It's not easy to put yourselfout there.
What makes it easy is if youdon't compromise yourself.
A lot of the times we're soafraid to put ourselves out
there because we're afraid ofpotentially judgment or someone
not liking what we're doing orwhatnot.
But if you accept the deepestpart of yourself that maybe
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society tells you to hide orsociety tells you is limiting
and you just accept it for thebeauty it is.
That is the truest form ofauthenticity and it really helps
a lot of that anxiety sort ofjust melt off and nobody can
tell you nothing.
So those would be my two thingsof advice.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Authenticity just cuts through.
I mean when people are reallybeing who they are.
Everyone notices.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Fortune favors the authentic, and it's also
infectious.
It makes other people feelsuper comfortable and then they
want to be around you more.
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
It's so interesting to speak to you, I just wonder
if there's anything that wemissed that you'd really like to
mention.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
No, I mean honestly.
We've covered so many things.
I will say that if you orsomeone you know is a music
professional or a music creatorthat has a disability
neurodivergence come check usout at rampedorg.
That's R-A-M-P-Dorg.
Check me out at Lachi MusicL-A-C-H-I-M-U-S-I-C.
On all socials I am constantlyreleasing music.
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We just released severalsingles in a row and releasing
an acoustic EP called theUncomfortable EP, so check that
out.
And, lastly, we will bereleasing.
I'm currently writing a bookwith Penguin Random House called
I Identify as Blind, which willbe out top of January, but
we're going to be promoting thecrap out of it in a couple of
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months here, so please staytuned.
Constant dates, always touring,always speaking.
So keep it locked on ourwebsite and and just stick with
us.
Stick with the kid.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Absolutely, and I will put some of these links and
anything you can share with me.
I'll put some of these links inthe website, but also in the
podcast when it is releasingPerfect, these links in the
website, but also in the podcastwhen it is releasing Perfect.
And it's just been sointeresting to speak with you
and I know I'll see you around,as I always do.
But thanks again for joining us.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Thank you so much for having me this has been a blast
.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
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