Manifesting The Lion's Gate Portal with Lara Marie Schoenhals from S.U.P - Season 3 Of Workout Recap!

S.U.P's Lara Marie Schoenhals and I unpack vintage Bravo mess, tats I got while high on pills, and our dogs wage squeaky toy warfare all in honor of Workout season 3! Show Pony tackles the Season 3 premiere of WORKOUT with a Sexy Unique Podcast crossover event: Lara Marie Schoenhals joins me to break down the vintage reality TV chaos of Workout Season 3 — and create some new drama of our own. We cover Jackie Warner’s new hair, her new girlfriend, and behind-the-scenes Bravo gossip you won’t hear anywhere else. I teach Lara about the politics of Fire Island Pines, I confess the worst tattoos I’ve ever gotten (thank you, prescription painkillers), and our dogs go feral in a squeaky toy showdown. It’s Bravo nostalgia, pop culture gossip, and unhinged storytelling — from the queen of Sexy Unique Podcast and the host of Show Pony. If you love Bravo reality shows, messy lesbian love stories, or chaotic podcast energy, this episode’s for you.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Good evening. It's my pleasure to announce that we are
now back to our regularly scheduled programming. I know last
week was a lot. Last week tested my spirit and
its shocked donation. Who am I kidding? Though? I loved it,
but I don't have the wherewithal to write, shoot, produce, perform, edit,

(00:37):
and distribute an entirely new, fresh, original reality show of
my own every week, all by myself. So this week
we're back to basics, back to my roots. Yes, even
I have roots, Ladies and gentlemen, We've finally made it
to season three of Workout. I thought I would have
ditched this project long ago, after maybe three episodes, but

(01:03):
here we are seventeen episodes in. Maybe the ADHD medication
they adjusted for me is working after all.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I wonder what it is. There's so much to discuss
about Season three of Workout. The show finally finds its stride,
It really comes into its own. Jackie's hair has fallen
from the Ryan Cabrera flip tips to kind of a
late stage goo goo doll is how I like to
describe it. I'm bummed it to the last season. I

(01:35):
have to say it even though I was pretty tired
of it, I'm having a hard time thinking of letting
it go before I get to my interview with my
very special guest this week, Let's just take a moment
to realize how insane the world is right now. And
African buffalo killed a billionaire. Larsa Pippen claims that her

(01:58):
fucked up face is because of alert jeez. Seven hundred
dollars worth of La Boo boos were stole in a
great Labubuo heist here in Los Angeles. They didn't steal
my spray tand leabuobo from last week's episode, now did they? Though?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Racist?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Even though it's the dog days of summer, it's going
to be freezing in Wyoming this week. Let that sink in.
Josh Duamel is a doomsday prepper in Minnesota. What is happening?
Adults are sucking on pacifiers to calm themselves down. Gay
A woman had diarrhea so bad on an airplane they
had to reroute the flight, ground it, and then cancel

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it entirely. And on top of all of that, it's
tarantula mating season. In other words, I love being alive,
and I love the society we find ourselves in now. Currently,
for those of you stalking me, I mean paying attention
to my personal life. I do have a boy that

(02:55):
I like coming to visit me this week, So maybe
there won't be a new episode next week. But let's
just not give up hope. Let's hope I can pull
it off. This week. I needed a pro to really
help me process the lesbionic zenith I've achieved. I feel
like I have reached a clitteral summit, a sapphic crest,

(03:16):
a cervical peak. A few weeks ago, you'll remember carry
O'Donnell from Sex Unique podcast was on the show talking
about season two, and this week it was an out
of body experience to sit down with the matriarch of
sup herself, Laura Marie Shane. Hall's a true Bravo expert.
She dives into everything, not even just about Bravo. She
does my spiritual chart. We talk about my sobriety, bad tattoos,

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early jobs in LA, recent vacations, and of course, yes,
a shit ton of Bravo bells and whistles boukackied throughout.
I know I keep saying it, but Supperately is my
favorite podcast and sitting with Laura talking about not even
just Bravo, but about anything. It always reminds me of
just what an expert she is or what she does.

(04:02):
It's truly a delight to be in her presence. Oh
when I saw the movie Weapons, definitely go see it.
Put it at the top of your list and see
it now before the office faggot at whatever your job is,
ruins it for you this week, because every gay guy
who wants to seem cool is going to go around
the office ruining it for people this week. So make
sure you see it asap, maybe even on your lunch

(04:25):
break today. I'm still taking suggestions for what show to
do next. I'm thinking Anna Nicole still that's the front runner,
but for the next couple of weeks I will be
taking suggestions. But it won't last long, so get him
in now. Welcome to show Pony. I'm John Hill. We
are now close to the finish line. Season three of
Workout begins. Enjoy the interview with Lara Marie Shane Hall's.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I don't mind holding.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay, I know, I know it is so cu okay,
Laar Marie Shane Hall's let's get it done.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Let's do it. Is this sing on.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I think it is. It's a blue light on Yeah,
sex unique podcasts. I'm always coming for subsnachos. I'm always
trying to just steal your vibe. You're like, come on.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
You're really You're kind of like third mic on SEP
at this point because you've co hosted with each of us.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Do you understand it's my dream in life? It makes
me so happy.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You're welcome anytime.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Do they hate me this up head? Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
They love you?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, you tell me whoever.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I have a theory that's like whoever you hate, it's
like what you hate in yourself. So it's just a
chance and an opportunity to examine.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Wow, my my rolodex of hate that I've gotten is
really flipping right now. You just got back from vacation.
I did you have a glow?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Was it relaxing or do you get stressed out on vacation?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
No, it's relaxing. I like, I'm only stressed out if
the accommodations aren't up to my standards.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So you bougie, like, will you look at a room
and go back down and go I hate that room?
Move me?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really? Only if it's like smells bad.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I never do that. People do that as a just
a policy. They always ask for this next.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So it's so much energy to do that. Like the
room really has to be like a piece of shit
or have a smell that I can't like handle.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, So how many people are be traveling with at
this point?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Traveling with two? Traveling with a gay couple?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, gay couple, gay couple. There any sexual at tension,
like as a third no, okay, yeah, sometimes could be.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It feels nice to join a couple. I like to
third wheel depending on the couple.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, yeah, I mean I love to third deal third
wheel with Simon and Carey. They're a dream couple. Yeah
they don't. They're not mad at each other and stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, there, I have no anger.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I can't handle when people are passive aggressive or they're bickering.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, that's an immediate I'm out one wheel and that's
me driving away in the unit cycle.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, Green, glad you had a good vacation.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah it was fun. I'm glad to be back. I
thought I was going to be really like darked out,
and I am, but it's not in the suicidal way
I was thinking I would be.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Okay, Well, welcome home. We missed you.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Where were you? You were in New York Fire Island.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Fire Island and back to the city, then Peetown's then
back to the city. You would have shown Petown shows
in p Town. Have you been to Petown?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah? I have? Okay, it was fun.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I saw Dina Martina in Peatown.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
A queen, A queen, my favorite performer.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, the humor is impeccable.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
You got to go back. I want Carry and Simon.
They've never been, or one of them has been. Carrie's
never been.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Carrie has never been.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Simon's been like one long time ago. We're talking about
doing that next summer too. You should come.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh okay, I'm intrigued.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I feel very invisible in Pea Town.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I well, you've never been a Fire Island, right.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, I'm I would love to go to Fire Island.
Would I be even more invisible there? Or would I
be incredibly visible?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You would pe Town. When I went, it was as
though I didn't exist at times, and I would never.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Have exist in Pee Town. You would absolutely exist. I
feel like it's very woman friendly Fire Island. There's just
not women at all.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Really, I thought there were lots of lesbians.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
The other in their own sections.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
They're in the lesbian section.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Boys are in the pines, women are in cherry Grove,
and the pines and cherry Grove are separated by a
vast desert.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh, a desert.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You have to hike through a marsh and a forest
and sand dunes to get to the lesbians. There is
no but.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I understand why the lesbians would do that. I understand it.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, the boys just go crazy, and that we have
figured out our version of that, which is great.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Two incredibly different versions of big the way the lesbians
do it and the way the gays do it. So yeah,
that's very interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
They're cracking open beers and laughing. The boys are taking
care about this, not us really like our house is
so fun. We're watching chromatica Ball for the fourth time
on HBO Max. We're making chicken fajitas.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Love that.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And by the end of the trip, we just kept
impersonating women coming so like every five seconds someone it
would be like it just and by the end of
the week no one was even saying worse. They were
just communicating.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Female orgasm, female orgasm.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Simon showed us a pterodactyl porn it's just it's a
fun house watching memes and things.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, but the rest of the great time, the rest
of the boys are on GHB and having sex. Yeah.
Did you ever do GSHB?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Never have?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Wow? I feel like you might enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think I really would.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I only did it a few times, and I was
the kind of drug addict where someone would come over
from Grinder and hook up and they'd be like, I'm
gonna I'm gonna go pee and they'd go to the
bathroom and I would take the g be important to
different glasses and then so they'd leave and I would
have their steal their drugs.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Or I would be like.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Just I don't know. Later, love, I don't know what happened.
Everyone's like, okay, so just yus, we did it all.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Get out, now get out? Now you get out and
I'll finish it myself. There was nothing I loved better.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Than I'm sure they were really fooled, but I don't
know where the coke is. I feel like people that
do cooke are always really aware of what's happened.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I think we think at the times. I because I
used to buy it and I would stash some for myself,
and then I would be like, all we have is
this tiny little bag for the rest of this party.
I guess it's gone vibe really, because I love doing
drugs alone.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You were alone.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I didn't like partying with other people.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, that's kind of the mark of a true.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I couldn't wait.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Fortunately, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I wish I was like a raver. I mean I
went to a rave a little every now and then.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, it's more it's certain drugs require certain things.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
But yeah, if you're doing a lot of drugs, but
then you find yourself more and more just preferring to
do all the drugs by yourself, that's just a time
to check in and ask are we on the right path?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
And thankfully you know you.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Asked I asked.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
You asked the important question. Yeah, and people asked you.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
People came to me asking an important question. Yeah. Yeah.
People came to be at Watch What Happens Live? Like
it became like the elephant in the room.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
You in the back in the back of Watch with
Abens Live. Yeah, behind the scenes, yeah, people are like
they're like, come be a guest on Watch What Happens Live,
but also have a chat with Jo.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Watch out for this guy. Literally, Mark and Suelo's had
a chat with me. People people would come and they
would I could. I could tell that Andy had said
to them like, peep peep are over there, and they
would and looking back, they really would. And Andy even said,
He's like, are you a sly because I would wear
fentanyl patches at work.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Okay, anyway, hardcore you you're got conroll.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
You and carry are going to be on watch Wrappens Live.
Did you see my email?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, I'm fingers crossed.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
The wheels are turned.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
The wheels are turning. I'm really excited. I don't want
to jinx it.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
You're not going to jinx it? Okay, cool, we've already
jinxed it.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Like yeah, people.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Call People called into me and Andy's show and randomly said,
can you get sup on there?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
This is not just me people asked to get That's.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why I sent the email because someone called in and
they were like, oh, we saw that you were in
the fines with Carrie. We really want to see sex.
You need podcast as bartenders. And I was like, this
is the way we're doing it. Because then Andy goes, oh,
who's that guy? Is that that guy from that podcast?
I'm like, yes, you go, oh, he's so funny. I go,
you guys should really have them. He goes, great, I
would love it. And so I sent you and said

(13:13):
her Andy's on air, verifiable decree. He wants them on,
So find them a day.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Huge, huge. Yeah, you know, I just it's hard for
me to get my hopes up because I've come so close,
like a handful of times, and it really is like
my Moby Dick is watch up. It's specifically not even
being a guest, being a bar barn.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, it's the white whale.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
My white whale is being in the chair.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
We all have our whales. I can't even conceive of
a world where I'm in the chair. Yeah, you know,
it couldn't chair. I think one day, let's just start
with the barb baby steps.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Actually I put I took notes from this episode, so
I finished the too. You did?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I did want to ask you some things before we
get started, please do you know that? Okay, so we're
recording this on eight eight twenty five. You know what
today is?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Today's the lions Portal, the lions Gate Portal, the lions
Gate Portal.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Okay, explain what that is?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I was hoping that you would explain to me, I can.
I think it's the powerful day for manifestation.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
It is when it's the most powerful day for manifestation.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
But you have to be careful and you have to
be aware of the d's and don't.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, what are the dues?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I didn't write them down.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
To be specific. Wait, this is exciting because I got
have you heard of human design?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Okay, well, some like.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Hippie is that the human centipede?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Not far off? Some hippie like decided to invent this.
I guess they kind of like channeled and then just
wrote it. Seems like they channeled and wrote a screed
and they can they mix together astrology, eaching, maybe some numerology.
They just like merged everything and created this thing called

(15:07):
human design, which functions kind of the same ish as astrology.
Like it's like your name, birthday, birthplace, birth time, and
then you get like a whole map of your human design.
And I'm collecting friends and their charts, so I want
to do your chart.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Ten seventy seven is my birthday.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Chic.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I just found out I'm a triple scorpio, not a
double scorpio. Whoa what are you?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I'm a Gemini. I'm a double gemini, Leo Rising.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
This is also why I want you to meet Andy,
because you're also a dead head and he's a Gemini.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I know we're really like, I feel meant to know
each other for sure, at least to dance next to
each other out of dead.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Nor is so is so good together?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
What's your birth time?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, but here's the snag. I was born in Texas.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
What's the timeless?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You weren't putting time on the birth certificate, so no
one knows the exact time. I have my birth certificate.
There's no time. So I called my mom. I said
when was I born? And she was like, like nine
or ten in the morning, And I said, no, it
has to be exact. And she said why and I
said because of astrology. And she was like, well, I'm
definitely not telling her first time.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
God damn it.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
But we say nine or ten? Can we estimate? Can
we just pick? Can we say ten? Nine?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's see, let's see what they say. You can speak
to your relatives and check with the hospital where you
were born. You can find very good astrologers specialize in
chart rectification. The science of figuring out your exact time?
How would an astrologer? Are we able to figure that out?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
But if I call the hospital and I go, hey,
if forty seven years ago, there's no record of it.
But does anyone there happen to remember when I came
out of my mom's puss?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
What if they're like nine thirty eight am, Oh, it's
what we talk about every day. Well, let's say, what
do you tell astrologers when they do you'r T thirty
nine thirty? Okay, what's the location?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
San Antonio, Texas? Oh? You want this blanket? See? This
is his next move. He wants to be under this.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Omm Yeah, good boy, here you go.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
He won't be smothered.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I promise you're a manifestor.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
That's my thing.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Mm hmmm. Really, manifestors are wild, strong, playful creatures. True,
as a manifestor, you're born with a very strong sense
of who you wanted to be. You were born already
knowing how to raise yourself. But it's likely the adults
in your life were told to discipline and regulate your
natural urges because that's what they're told is the right
thing to do with kids.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
How do they know?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
But the thing with discipline. Is it actually constricts your
energy and tells you it's not good to be a wild, spontaneous,
strong creature when that's exactly who you came here to be.
Not only are you meant to be like that, but
that's actually when people will love you the most, even
if they don't know that consciously. That's also when you'll
be the most successful, impactful, and feel the most at
peace within yourself.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Wait, I'm freaked out. This isn't crazy, this is real,
This is true.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You're an initiator, You get the ball rolling, start something,
create movement, often without even trying that others can join
in on or follow you on. You don't have to
figure out how to create movements. You just have to
follow your urges, because those are the very things that
will create the right impetus in others. When you're being
full of you, your actions will always create a spark
in others that they can react to. This is you.

(18:28):
You are the cause and everyone else is the effect.
And like do drugs again?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah? I love that.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, you're supposed to like do what you want in life.
Give yourself the license to go off and be and
do what your heart is leading you to do, trusting
that it's always the way you're going to create everything
you want. This is a powerful lions Gate portal realization.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
If I'm a manifestor and today's the most important day
of manifestation, it.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Really is your biggest desires to be able to do
exactly what you want.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Manifestors are unintentional leaders because ironically, when they do whatever
they want and let themselves be seen doing it, it
catches the attention of the very people who are meant
to partake in it.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I don't want to be too weird right now, but
like this is for this is resonating majorly.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Embrace your bigness. Bigness scary. Don't say that ever to
a girl or.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, what're you trying to say?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's so misunderstood. It's not loud, aggressive, or in your face.
It's just unafraid to stand on its own essence and
radiate that out to the world. Instead of adopting or
changing for anyone. Trust that your essence is perfect because
it's the essence the universe design for you specifically, so
it's something to honor rather than be ashamed or apologetic for.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Okay, just to circle back, on the drug thing. I
feel like when I was such a drug addict, just
doing drugs at home alone because I was afraid to
be myself. Yeah, and I was staying at home just
trying to like numm down and escape. And once I
got over, I feel like all I do is whatever
the fuck I want. That's good and I'm happier than
I've ever been.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, this says you don't have to try to be big,
you just have to stop being small. Oh, oh my god,
Texas does breed really good?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, you're not far out your Oklahoma, I know a.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Little bit north.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
You have the same thing as me, which is the
bonus life.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
What's the bonus?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
The bonus life means like you're not here to learn
any major karmic lessons, Like you're here to just like vibe.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
That is it? Be vibe? Don't you feel like you
kind of like all this shit people are struggling to
figure out and learn.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I'm like, duh, yeah, yeah, Like once you've done the
work and like you're in the therapy or doing the
drag investigation on yourself, you're just here to live a
bonus life.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I do feel like I'm living a bonus life. I
feel like what I'm doing here is observing key king,
laughing and vibing.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Your manifestation process is nonspecific, meaning like you don't need
to get like you don't need to do The feeling
is more important than the details.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yes, that's the thing when I when I hear people
talk about how to manifest and I try it, it
doesn't work for me, Like write it down a certain way,
stay it out loud, close your eyes, do this, or
if I just believe it's kind of like the way
it's going to be, it happens. This is so, this
is Pete's happiest place.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I love when a dog gets cozy.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, okay, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
You're so welcome.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So you're last How long you been doing so?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Fifteen years, eighty five years, since twenty seventeen, but I've
been podcasting since twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I remember your early, those early days up or Elizabeth
back in twenty twelve. She was I was like aware
of in la podcasting and stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
It was one of the first podcasts. I think Watch
What Crappens was out around the same time, but it
was the two of our podcasts in the Trenches I
think I was the first podcast to ever speak on
vander Pump Rules.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, it's been fun to add. Like to go from
like I was in my apartment, like started the podcast
on this couch, to then being like, oh, we're in
a studio now, and like getting to do all this
other stuff is really great.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
A bigger production budget so that you guys could break
out and do sketches and bits and scenes and yeah,
videos or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Music video, release a single. I would love to do
a single, hit single like.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I see that for you guys, thank you? Yeah, yeah, okay,
it's okay. In addition to the lions Gate portal, it's
also the twenty first anniversary today, the eighth of the
Dave Matthews band Cruz Feces disaster.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Wow is that when they dropped it it was in
the Chicago River.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Dropped it like it was hot. They they sprayed shit
on a boat full of people on a boat.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, because their plane flew over.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And they were a bus. I think the bus like
dumped it over what they thought was a bridge or something,
but it was a boat full of people.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
You know, I haven't looked into this, like fecal scandal
enough because I thought like I was misinformed. Well, I
think if I just knew that like shit and Dave
Matthews man, and that shit happened to them or because
of them.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Well, I don't think it was a plane because if
Dave Matthews isn't a.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Plane, right, m hm, where do the planes dump?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
They don't really, I think they dump.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
They dump in the area, just goes into the vibes.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Kind of like all I know is when you're walking
on the street, you're not getting like, actually, where are you?
Where aren't you? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Just spores.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I think it was their tour bus and they dumped
their shit overboard, Like if a bridge is that what
the bridge?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Is that what the buses are doing these days? Slash
always twenty one years ago, maybe they weren't. I always
was told you're never supposed to shit on the tour bus. Ever,
that's like rule number one about a tour bus.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, because it's shared space.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, but you're just like, yeah, just you're not supposed
to do it, even if you just go to the
gas station.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't shit on the plane for damn sure.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
If it happens, it happens for me. I don't want
to why.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I just think it's two close quarters.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Sometimes. I like having that secret. I'm not gonna stop
it from happening. I'm not going to close up shot.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I don't think you should hold it. Yeah, I'm not
advocating for because that's very unhealthy.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
No, yeah, it's really bad for you. But I don't
like you know what.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I like you shitting. I don't want like an annoying
person pooping before I.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Have I don't like anyone else shitting on a plane
but me or my loved ones. Yes, yeah, a friend,
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay, Well that happened twenty one years ago. A fourth
person through a with the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I heard that they're throwing the dildos and that now
there's like a no bag policy.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
See, you're ruining it for everybody, you.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Know, which I said on SUP. I was like, this
is once again punishing women because women need bags more
than any other gender. We have so much stuff. I
think women need bags, and then gays need to have bags.
But if you're not a woman or a.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Gay man, a straight guy doesn't need a bag.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
No what for for exactly, for your gun or for
a dildo.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
That you throw.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
But like I don't think that we should be punished
for the idiots who are undoubtedly straight men. Who else
would be throwing a dildo?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Christino? Yeah in full glam Nancy mate. Yeah, I don't
know who would be throwing a dildo except a straight asshole. Yeah.
It's like also like, these girls are just trying to
play basketball. They don't need to do.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
It, so ridiculous. They also like don't get paid. I know,
So why are you throwing dildos at them? Why are
you so mad at them?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's for the love of the game.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I know. Really, they love the game more than maybe
anyone playing basketball.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
And with that, let's talk about lesbians lesbian sports. So
have you ever watched workout? Never? Wow? I love it
me either.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
This is the first time it's really good.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, you're starting season three. I made you start with
this first episode of season three, and I have to say,
this is when it has locked in. That's when these
first two seasons were like, they were tough. I was
really dreading it. But now I'm back in.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Okay, Well, I have some questions. First of all, who died.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
And how I've been talking about this? Okay, what do
you mean who died? Because a guy died.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That was Bleeper Bleeker Peeper No, Brian Heeler is his
best friend, Doug.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Doug, Doug was the hottest. What happened?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Was it tragic? Did he get cancer?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
It wasn't cancer, but it was what God say. Yeah,
it was maybe some complications with some stuff he then
he had.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Was he gay? Yes, but Peeler is not.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Peeler is Magan now straight? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Okay, Yeah, he has really horrible energy. He has terrible energy.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
See toxic trait a gay guy. I find him so hot.
Peeler m hmm for a moment.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Jesse is hot.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Jesse was on this show that you're on right now. Wow.
I interviewed him and I cried.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
He's hot one of them. And he's fun. He seems
fun and like a good a good vibe.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
And he was great on TV. He is his story
from now. I want you to go back and watch
the episode. He has one of the only success stories
from being on a reality show and then turning your
life into like a wise attending sage Wow, adopting kids.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
He truly did have like a really good energy.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
He is amazing. He's one of the greatest people I've
literally ever met and was that, Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
He's great. Okay, So Doug, Doug was Doug a dark No,
he was like a beacon of.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Play everyone like the older brother you wish you had,
like the greatest.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's so sad.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
It's really sad. And I knew it was coming. The
thing was everyone kept saying, well, someone else dies though,
because Doug's he's there from the beginning, people always talk
about him. I knew it was coming. And Andy said, oh,
I cried at the reunion when Doug died. So I
always knew Doug was going today.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
But did it happen suddenly on the show.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
It did because last season he was training his ex
boyfriend who had to go to dialysis because he had
kidney failure, so he was his storyline was like he's
helping his ex wuo he still loves and then all
of a sudden, Doug got sick out of nowhere and
then he passed a sudden.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Oh I hate that. I know. Tragic, Okay, no, wonder
everyone's reeling.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no, he was beloved. But we'll get
into it.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
But there's some another person dies else dies? Is it
the girl with the glasses or they knock on her
door and they go, it was like coming up this
season and there's a moment where they knock on a
girl's door and she answers with glasses. They go, were
you okay? And I was like, this is what I
want yearned to see. But maybe that the red herring
and it's not her.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Somebody has ah is the girl who says it's my life,
it's my journey.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
No, she's a different I was thinking she's probably a client,
not a trainer. Okay, yeah, it was the girl who
has kind of like not Rebecca.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
My girl might be the new girl? Is it Ranessa
the blonde?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Vanessa the blonde?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
She's new, she's new. There's four new people. Vanessa's new,
Lisa the office manager is new, Augustina is new, and
Greg Plitt is new. What do you think of Greg Plitt? Clit?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Greg Clitt is not making my clip hard. I'll tell
you that. At first I was like, Okay, I got it,
like he has a hot bod. But then he wore
the fedora that was a federal crime, and I said
it's over for him, like he's lost me. You can
never bounce back from that. I hate it, especially on

(30:24):
like a big guy with a little hat is wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Let's back up a little bit though, who dies?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Can you say, do you know? Or are you just waiting?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I just found out?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Can you tell me right as well? I don't want
to ruin it for your listeners.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
They found out live on the show, and I found out.
I was trying not to google ahead. But then I
had a guest on who was like, oh, spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, you cannot bark at him.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Come here, Greg Plitt dies.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
No. Was he put to death. He was given the
death sentence because of the fedora.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Surely after he wore the fedora. A team of people.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
If they executed him, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Of course, not to make fun of the deceased. I
don't want to see this, but tacked without lapping.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Just say it.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
It was actually after workout had stopped. It was after
after workout had finished, and he was just kind of
doing fitness influencing or whatever. I think twenty a few
years after workout he was he was filming fitness.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Like videos.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, like a fitness video like working out looking sexy
on a train track in the valley and he got
hit by a train. No while filming it, like sit
ups and stuff. But I know, wouldn't you hear the
train come?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Would the tracks would rattle? Like there would be seemingly
lots of time.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
This is what I don't have.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
This is shocking. I know it was after the show ended.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
My god, so knowing that, yeah, like and I did
have a reaction when I found out that he was
hit by a train while filming.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's kind of poetic and beautiful. You know, he went
what he did, what he loved, and it was truly
the best way for him to go, honestly, Yes, Like
it's he was committed to the lifestyle and he lived
his dream.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Right to the n He was living his dharma. He
was walking the walk. But I just like, getting hit
by a train is so what's the word intense and
specific and tragic and scary? What if his like do
you think his his like little sneaker got stuck in
the he tried to get away, but he couldn't.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Because I don't understand how that would happened, because I
feel like you would just know that the train's coming
for so long before it's actually there, Like, trains don't
sneak up on.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
You, No, they don't. Maybe he had headphones in and
he was listening to corn or a loud rock band
to amp him up. But then the trains, the tracks
would rattle. Like you said, you.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Just think would think that your number one priority if
you wanted to make train track content would be like
making sure the train isn't coming. You'd be like, I
really want to get the shot, but like I also
want to be incredibly certain to miss the train.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Well, this is the difference between us and Greg Clin.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Greg was like he had one goal and one goal only.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Seems to look hot on those tracks.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Do you think he filmed himself dying by accident?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
My friend Harlan knows the full story, and we'll get
to the bottom of it. I'm haunted and it was
it was here in the valley. Maybe it was those
quiet trains, you know how some of those, like city trains,
are kind of they're not like a locomotive. They're like
you would think the conductor would be like honk the horn.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I have a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Okay, we'll get to the bottom.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Maybe it was a suicide.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
See like, maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
This is a spinoff podcast before you do investigation to
investigation investigate his death, well, like it.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Is a crazy story. Maybe that's a bottle episode where
I really get to the bottom of.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
It the people might demand you do.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
The other thing is once you say Greg Plitt's name,
all you think is he appears. No, you get like,
I have a friend who was talking about it, and
now he gets he's been served all this like Greg
Plit fitness content.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Wow, so I'm about to get my algorithm.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Trained by a ghost ghost trainer is a good like
Lifetime show, I.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Know what a legacy.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I know he was he was hot. I mean, yeah,
he was kind of that hot. Though that looks a
little off as well, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Like when they're all making fun of him. This was
also just the era of reality TV where it was
like you kind of bait people all the time, even
more than like they don't do it like then.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Right, okay, so what do you know? You know, the
ins and outs of Bravo reality, especially looking back, what
do you think about, Yeah, their interaction, their behavior. You know,
this is technically a workplace drama.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Like k of early vander Palms. Yeah, so you have
Jackie who's iconic, yeah and lesbian in charge, but who's
also dating her own staff.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
At points, and you can tell they broke up. The
theory is that it was for camera time. Rebecca was like,
I'll be a lesbian this season for camera time. She's
not a lesbian. She's had a boyfriend the first season. Yeah,
I feel like and I'm not even mad at it,
Like they're both hot, why not just like have a
little affair.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, it seems like fun. I like her and I
think that like they're everyone's kind of playing their role.
But it's also just wild because they'll talk about like
people don't talk about Lisa the way the staff is
talking about Jackety.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Right, she's more of a peer and a boss.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah. I like when Lisa, her new managing director fat
shames her is crazy amazing. This was really the era
of fat shaming.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
We're a peak now that this is two thousand and eight.
This season it started actually kind of sweet, and then
by season two you can tell Biggest Loser was popping
off and things where people America wanted to watch fat
people losing weight in a major way. It was like
very much about that.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It was it was really boring. That's not my that's
not my preferred show, Like I want to see people
getting shit faced and fighting or like watching Intervention, Like,
I would love to see braw footage of people, just
like shooting up.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I have a quote from Intervention tattooed on my body.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Come on which Intervention episodes?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Sylvia? Who was that Sylvia? She was drinking airplane sized
Vodkas all day at work at the dress shop and
falling into bushes and driving. She would drive drunk and
drink while driving, and they would film big problems for driving.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
They love to film people. That's also like, I feel
like Intervention. We've kind of moved past intervention of this society,
but I do think it still is on.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I think the format is different, it's different.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
It changed. I think they switched to like Canada and
things were less like gritty.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, And I think once people started to get it
pretty quick, they were like, oh, I'm on an intervention.
Never mind like someone telling you to say, hey, we
heard your adict to crack. We're just doing like a
student film, like I don't know, no people know, everyone's
wised up. Yeah, but back in the day day, Yeah,
Sylvia was falling face first into bushes.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
And her aunt Freda said, come on, Sissy.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Come on, sissy. Yeah, it's a Oh that's sweet.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I know when did you get it? Did you get
it after you got sober?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I was in the blackout when I got it. I
got it the same day I got that nice which
I got I went to pump drunk.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
What does that say? I've never seen that one.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I'm getting this remove so this is.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Is that why it's like a little bit Yeah, because
you started the removal.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Processing sessions in.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
It's a long No. I've never had a tattoo. It hurts,
it looks really painful.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I took about eight xan X bars in the morning,
went to Pump with my friend Brandon. We did bottomless whatever. Yeah,
and then after brunch she was like, let's go get tattoos.
And I got Relentless with no vowels and Instagram story font.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
That's wild. I'm really glad that.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
You got so there are photos of me getting it.
I'm like, I don't remember getting it.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Relentless.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Why it's the stupidest fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
What that is? The tattoos that people get when they're drunk, though,
are like really amazing.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Now I kind of like it, but it is really embarrassing.
And I paid a lot of money and I'm getting
it removed.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
When you feel the call to get a tatto room,
and I always think you should follow it. But I
do love the story and the intention behind it, and
you were relentless in many ways. That's the irony you
tap in, I think to your manifestors. Yeah, and when
you're drunk, like those decisions like are such a timestamp,

(39:42):
you're memento essentially.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's momento.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I know it at least looks hot.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
My sister's phone number.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I think it's cute. I like that one. Yeah, okay,
so yes, they're all talking about one thing. To note,
Jackie's hair has gone from like Ryan Cabrera to down
so before she was spikey spikey. Yeah, and this is
a whole new hairdoo. This is a major Now it's
more like major.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Edging into like Meg Ryan like Shag.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's edging in.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's a two thousand and eight version of the shag.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Like late stage googoo doll. Yeah, she looks good.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
She looks great. Where is Jackie now? I started to look,
but then I was getting sad.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Jackie was also on this podcast, and she's going to
be on it again.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
She lives in Ohio. Okay, she had a dui arrest.
Did you come across that.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
No, not yet. I just had Like I was in
the early stages of researching, and then I thought, why
don't I let John tell me love it?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, it's not as tragic as getting hit by a
train filming fitness workout regime regimen. But she did take
amby and drive to seven eleven in her panties and
then get a DUI and it was all for.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
She's fucking relentless. But so then was that before Ohio?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
It was before Ohio? And then I think that started
the ball rolling. I think that was twenty seventeen maybe
something like that. And interesting, you know, the fitness industry
has obviously changed so much. Yeah, backing up even further,
she's Jillian Michael's ex girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Wow boom, that's intense.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, and she had a lot to say about her
on the.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Show Sky what's it called Sky Sport and Sky Sport?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, and Spa.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Was it eighty five hundred Olympic It's on Wilshire, on Wilshire, yes, okay,
but close to okay, it's.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Like Los Enega and Wilshire.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I used to work right down the street from that,
Like across the street from the Larry Flint buildings when
I worked at the Producer's Guild of America, and so
I was really getting spirited back to that exact like
intersection and location when I was seeing sky Club right.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Well, that's why it's been cool to watch this show,
because when did you move.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
To LA I moved in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Okay, yeah, that's basically I moved here right two thousand
and seven. Eight, But like eight's when I got an
apartment here and was running through these streets and people
were talking about Jackie Warner at the bars. They'd be like, oh,
Jackie Warren, like she was a star sighting.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I didn't move to West Hollywood until twenty ten, so
I was like in Santa Monica prior to that, or
Beverly Hills adjacent for a few months. Then Santa Monica,
and then I feel like things started really happening. Like
twenty ten, West Hollywood was the place to.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Be, and I lived I Lostien against Santa.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Monica while you were in the mix.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I lived behind Barry's boot camp. Wow.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Historic historic, Yeah, we're a part of history, truly.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
She's in she has a new girl, Jackie has a
new girlfriend, Brianna. It's giving like Hitler Youth. They're very just.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Lots of blonde and very like kind of twin almost twin.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
They make a spinach and ice smoothie that.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Looked pretty good.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, I would drink it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Jackie's really negative about food to people.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
I noticed and season when she tells this woman tests
that her diet should just be a harbored egg and
one small apple.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
For the whole day.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
That's what we still are wondering. We're hoping she meant
just for a meal breakfast, but maybe she meant all day.
It's a question we still have.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah. Like she turned up her nose at the avocado
at the big dinner party.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, she was just being a bitch. I think to
be to be bitchy.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, and I wonder what her human design is, you
know what she.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm curious. Yeah, I don't know her birthday and time.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
But maybe you got to get with that figure out.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, that's actually a really fun thing to do with her.
She identifies as a life coach now cool, Yeah from Ohio.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, like in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, Hey, people have lives, they need coaching all over.
In fact, probably a lot of people in Ohio need
a life coach.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, that's actually very true.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, she hasn't dated anyone. She says she hasn't found
anyone to know how she finds attractive enough to go
out with. Fair enough, her words, not mine. Rebecca and
her have a She and Rebecca have a conversation. Rebecca
scared of the chihuaha, which I didn't like.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
No, me neither.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I don't like painting Chihuahas in a negative light either.
They're so cute to me.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
I know, and I think they're so sweet. I will
never not have a chuaua close your ears, Like as
soon as we need to transition to the Rainbow Bridge,
there's gonna be another one on the way. Oh yeah,
I'm gonna be Mickey Rourke. I'm gonna be doing more.
I'm gonna have a fucking baby, little tiny dog.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
I know. I would totally get a Chihuahua as well.
Like I just love their little I like their like
glassy black eyes are so cute to me. There's also
little human beings I know in they're they have a
lot of personality, and I need a lot of personality.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
And a dog and I need them to be needy
as fuck. I need them to be so obsessed with
me they can't handle it.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
See, I like them an independent. I like a mixture
of the two. I like Tony's a lap dog for sure,
but then sometimes like I'll be upstairs and he'll be
downstairs and we're just like vibing in our own ways.
And I also like that that feels comforting.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I like Yeah, but now I'm just so obsessed with pugs.
It's like I just have to have. That's part of
my manifestation is like I really want to have like five.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
They say that you have a type. They have a
type of girl or guy you like, and you also
have a type of dog. Like I'm a choas are
my type.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Pugs are your type, hugs are my type. I get
it hugely.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Reanessa, we talked about she's a new trainer. She has
this middle part, but then it's every other like an inches.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Across she's doing that part.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Got about that haircut.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, it was an unfortunate moment in time. I think
I tried to do like a zigzag part once and
then I realized, like this isn't for me.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, she self describes herself as and she describes herself
as naughty, which I think is annoying.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And she's flirting with the guy. I mean, like, just
put your palvits out. I was also dying at the
level of insinuation.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Jar bullshit.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, like people they don't do that kind of stuff
in the in the gym anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
No, they're really I mean it is you're you're sweaty,
you're working out. But I think right now people have
reached a level of like people are not doing that
at gym's.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
No, it's not like a I've never experienced a gym
personally for me and myself and I as a cruising space,
right though. I know that that happens.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
It happens up the street from you at Equinox. But
I go to a very co ed like it's lesbians,
old ladies gaze.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
You can just lock in and get the work done.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Everyone's nice. No one's trying to. I think people do
meet up and have sex, but like not at the gym.
There's no place to do it. My gym is a
little bit like ran through everyone there is so.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Is it like weightlifting? Yeah, very does Lord go there,
you can cut. Yeah, I know she's at a gym
and like probably Echo Park or the East Side, and
she's like benching.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Harry Potter goes there sometimes, that's cool. Rachel Sennett goes there.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
That's cool. Yeah, that makes me when I go there.
But it's not like it's not about gym.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yeah, it's like just cool people very much.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
So that's that's worth the drive.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I mean, if you remember, Jesse has a boyfriend for
one scene, Kaitlin happy for him. Okay, so the new people. Augustina,
who's like giving ninety day fiance.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
She won a competition that happened like at the what
looked to be like Century City.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Oh yeah, I thought it kind of looked like Sunset
five in a way. It could be they showed Sunset
five in the buberl too at one point.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Could also be Hollywood in Thiland because the way that
the people were up above looking down. Yeah, I was
trying to figure out, like what commercial retail space that was.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Lisa is a new character also the managing director.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I like Lisa investigator.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
We needed her, needed someone connecting the office to the trainer,
that's not just Jackie.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, and I also enjoy like office paraphernalia of yesteryear,
like all the files that she puts on a desk
that are now emailed you exactly, like everything's digital. So
but then you had like files and she would be like,
your schedule is right here, and showing a piece of

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paper with a schedule on it. That was like office
born for I love playing office me too, is like
my favorite thing. I like playing it more than like working.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
In When when I ever had to work in office,
all I really did was play office, and once say,
once I had to do work, I was upset.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I played Internet.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, I played take pills. Brian thinking, Okay, So Greg
plitt Rip hot new trainer. Brian thinks that Jackie hired
him to mess with him. I like that. Greg likes
to train people who are already in shape, he says.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, he says, because then I get to work out.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I get to work out.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Not only trains them, he then dates dates them. Yeah,
that girl.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
He dates a girl that looks like January Jones kind of.
He has a boner on camera. Did you see the boner? No,
there's a moment Greg plitt Rip is working out with
this girl and they do a close up of his
crotch and she's working out and they say he's hard.
Go back and watch.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I must have just like boner blindness.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I had to rewind it. Oh.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I was also like, very take it. This is taking
me back. Whatever's on your shoe that is.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
On my shoes.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I don't like that he zeroed it like I don't
trust his tastebuds.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
And ship.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
No, I mean I just don't love.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
That he Do you want me to take it away
from him?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
No, I'll take him away from it.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I think, well, listen, I'm getting a free shoeshine.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
That's what I have. People come over and I'm like,
my assistant will clean off your shoes for you.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Such a good boy. He keeps saying, like, there's this
crazy there's a dog in this blanket, and I want
to play with it.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I know he is yearning her reaction.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Yeah, he's a boner like I. It's filly there like
Penis through the gray sweatpants season vibes. Wow.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
There's also a moment where Peeler's training a woman and
he's like making her run on the treadmill and it
just zeros in on his eyes watching her tips like
bounce up and down. I was like, God, these men
are no Higgish.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Well, the first season, Rebecca was always like putting her
ass crack in people's face and being like, oh my god,
this is my crack out.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
What I did love is the woman that Greg was
training had the biggest tramp stamp.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I didn't see it, but it was yeah, no, she.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Was like a Celtic cross or something.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Was it relentless?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
It was pretty relentless. Is a Celtic Cross a thing?
Is that a bad thing?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
No? Okay, like a White suprem Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
I got nervous for a second that I misspoke, but
it was like it's like kind of I meant like
Celtic in style, like a big kind of Gothic cross.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
It's not universally that way. I think a lot of
White Supreme might co opt it, Okay, because it is.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
It didn't look like a White Supreme Cross. It looked
a little more like stone HENGI.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Another tattoo story, and well then we'll move on. I
have in college. I was also drunk and I got
a lightning bolt tattoo because the guy just put one
and it was orange and red. You know about this?
And I was working on like a gatoring a reality
show kind of and she was like this tattoo, this
like very much tattooed. Makeup artist was looking at my

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tattoo and she was like, oh, TCB huh, And I
was like, TCB what tcbhy? She was like taking care
of business. It's like you know, I see you.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
And I was like, what are you talking about? TCB.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Elvis was connected to like organized crime, and their code
word was TCB taking care of business. And they all
had this tattoo that white supremacist. Now I'll get and
it's a lightning bolt that's orange and yellow.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
No one. It has like a one zigzag like SA lighting.
It's just a lightning ble.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
And and so then as soon as she told me that,
I went ahead of filled in. Well yeah, but like
I had that for years someone on sun so random
asshole in Sunset gave it to me and my friend
in college. I had it on my body for years. Anyway,

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I was like, I'll cut this out. They make him
put his shirt back on. Craig takes his top off
at our gym and Echo Park. Everybody takes their shirts
off whenever they want.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, I thought that that because every I thought every gym,
you could take your shirt off. I think most of them.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah, this was back in the day though, this is
before crossbit.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, and that's really when that started.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Okay, one runner through every single season, anytime Jackie needs
like a B storyline, it's always clothing. She gives them
all her new line of clothing and its merch. And
that bugged me.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
This was very like people have just been making their
own clothing lines for decades and decades.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Especially on a reality show. Is whenever a clothing line
enters the chat, I check out.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Yeah, they're never what you want them to be.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Like Dret's wedding dresses. What was that?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Oh yeah those were something I.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Never I wouldn't even acknowledge that. That was so stupid.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
No, it's never. It never does for me. I'm trying
to rack my brain.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Is iconic?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
She buys Chat? Was it broke the mold?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
But like I'm running through, Like Amanda from Summerhouse had
her swimsuit line that was just you know, swimsuits, just
like cardboard.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
There's no brand that has really She brots Chat candy
coated nights. She probably sold a lot of sex toys.
Jovanni is not a Housewife brand.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
But clothes thing, specifically.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
The Southern Charm pillows.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I walked by that pillow store, I've never been more angry. Yeah,
it's the ugliest fucking shit, so cheap looking, it's disgusting,
and it's like it's an insult to everyone's intelligence.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Exulting also that they think that you would waste your
money on that.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
But I guess people do because it was in a
huge space. I just didn't even know until recently how
expensive pillows can get.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Pillows Like it's such a straight douchey thing to make too, Like, oh,
let's make pillows because it'll be kind of like gay.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
It's like it really is, just let's make pillows because
like women won't buy them, right, and they're not even
nice pillows. They're truly the ugliest pillows I've ever seen.
And I've seen some ugly pillows. I'm scrolling all day.
I will do pillows scrolls for hours at times. I've
gone to the stores and looked at pillows. I know

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what a nice pillow looks like, feels like, and these
I'm telling you right now if you want to buy,
just like if your pillow budget is low. But I
don't even know. I wouldn't even go in and look,
I was so offended. But I'm telling you, like, I've
walked through Walmart and seen better pillows of course. Yeah,

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so why would you ever go get this horrible, horrible pillow.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
For a piece of Bravo? I know? Can I answer
really quick? What do you sleep on? Pillow? Wise?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I sleep on down pillows? Okay, I upgraded.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Yeah, I got a cervical I got my cervix. Yeah,
like I was having neck pain and my chiropectul me
to get a certain cervical pillow. Oh yeah, we can
wrap this up. Rebecca is knocked over by Jackie's vibe.
Did they go to this dinner?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Her vibe is ranted at the dinner it is, and
then she's just making out.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I hate them making it out in front of people.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, like I understand affection, but there's a level of
making out that gets like erotic where it's like, yeah,
they're doing like your mouth or together for like longer,
and you're whispering and tongue licking, and like that's just inappropriate.
You're the boss too, the boss.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
You know that she focks a girl in the l
Coyote bathroom in season one on them.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Okay, I saw that kind of mention. This is reminding
me too of one of the greatest shows about lesbian's
The Real L Word. Did you ever watch that?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
This has come up and it's been suggested that I
watch that immediately. It is.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Canon. It was so so good. And one of the
couples worked out at Crunch Fitness on Sunset and I
used to work out there and I would be in
the same workout class with them all the time with Jill,
and I was obsessed and I wish I had said something,
but I don't think I ever got the balls to say.
It was one of my first sessions, like along with

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Jersey Shore. It was such a real outward head I'm.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Going to watch it. Yeah, and then my friend Alexandra
produced it.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Well, she's a fucking genius.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
She is no, she is a fucking no.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
It was a great, great show.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
You know, when I worked out at Crunch in two
thousand and one, because I was still kind of in
college and I was out here and I worked out
at Crunch and I took the kickboxing class and the
kickboxing teacher, I don't know if he was on the
train tracks or what. But he stopped, he vaned, he
just went away, and I was so mad, and they
were like, well whatever, like you just teach it then,

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like to sass me, And so I did. I taught
the kickbacks class. I'm not certified, and I taught it
for like six weeks and I just did the moves
that wait, did you just do it for free? John?

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I was obsessed.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I love will you teach? Then you said, well, then
I fucking will and then you did it, and they
really you got this. We have a guy that we
don't even have to be.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
But I was not trained and I didn't have a
certification of any doing the moves.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
But you taught it. Did people take it? Yes, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I stepped up.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
You did step your pissy up.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I did Okay. Last things sky like clothing, it's just merch.
Greg doesn't want to wear Oh he doesn't want to
wear a girl on his gray sweatpants. They get into
a fight. Check this is right before.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
She's a bad attitude. I'm telling you he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
And Jackie says, every hot muscle man wants to have
an image of a girl in their pants, which I
don't know. If that's true either, But like, just wear
the pants. Who cares, they're free sweatpants. Yeah, I mean
we have the super tees. It's it's my life, it's
my journey. It looks like things get really they get going.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
This season, she goes on a lesbian cruise and Hi
Jinks and Sue.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Back to the Dave Matthews Cruise.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I'm worried about Jackie's relationship with that it won't stay
in the test of time. I was a little bit
throwing up a red flag, like we moved in the
same night as our first date.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Well, we started the entire series with someone named Mimi,
who was a twenty six year old Brazilian and they
she had a like a volatile relationship, and she would
bite jack She kept she wouldn't stop biting Jackie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Like during sex or just in life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
When they would argue, she would bite her and she
would bite her heart and it would make Jackie matt
And then she slapped jack across the face and then
throw a drink.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Atter a spitfire. So Jackie is in an abusive relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Jackie seems to not be looking for peace in her relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Would some say that Jackie is her own worst enemy
at times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yeah, okay, I think so. But also Jackie also, I
think she also kind of kills it's she makes a
ton of money, then she loses a ton of money.
She makes she's like I've made a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
She's on fire, like she's a girl boss.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
She is a good And think about how hard that
must have been. She was thirty eight when this show started.
And to have got that real estate, started that business
and landed a documentary series about it is like a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
It's a lot. And also just to have to manage
that many employees and like run a business that's very
like client facing and social is difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
There was no social media back there, which which is interesting.
I think the show would have been very different had
they been reading about themselves while shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah. No, this is like, this has the purity of
no social media.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
In one there was no iPhone. It didn't even exist.
I love that, Larmie Shane Hols, thank you so much.
This was epic. This is sorry I said fifteen minutes,
but it's a long talk. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
No, that's okay. I loved Are you kidding? I love
to Yeah, and I love you too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I love you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Thank you for having me listen to us up, Listen
to us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Up or watched up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I like watching it, watch listen, just get in on it.
Get because it's a fun time. Yeah, once you've.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Watchedon, I'm joining substack and I got in trouble with Patreon.
I tell you why because I was showing too much
vpl like Greg Plitt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I had a tier of people like who would pay
a lot of money to like just like see like underwear.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You're not allowed to show underwear.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
They like were shady to me about it. Well that
about wraps it up for this episode of Show Pony.
Welcome to season three. I am reinvigorated to cover this
show with you all, to watch it with you, to

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