April 16, 2025 • 49 mins
Welcome to Show Pony with John Hill — the hilarious, no-holds-barred pop culture rewatch series that kicks off with a bang! In this premiere episode, John dives into the iconic Bravo reality show Workout, starring fitness queen Jackie Warner and a cast of 2000s-era gym hotties, drama, and tank tops. Whether you're a Bravo superfan, LGBTQ+ pop culture junkie, or just love a juicy throwback, this podcast brings the laughs, the tea, and the deep dives. 🎥 Watch the full video version on YouTube: WATCH ON YOUTUBE!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's sultry, seductive, and sweaty all over. What's the most
powerful cultural piece of media of this entire century? What
piece of art launched an entire societal revolution? If you
answered Bravo's reality television show Workout from two thousand and six,
you're correct. Do you have what it takes? Because if
you don't have what it takes, you're out of here.
(00:25):
My name is John Hill. I'm a former Bravo TV producer, writer,
and I'm the co host of Andy Cohen Live on
Sirius x SIM. If you want a full ass list
of my credits, just watch the intro to this show.
Show Pony, my new podcast. I know there's a million
Bravo podcasts out there, but stick with me. I wrote
and produced Watch what Happens Live for four years. I've
(00:46):
co hosted with Andy every morning for ten years. I've
been in the bravosphere for a long time, and through
all of that, there's one Bravo show I missed entirely,
and that's Workout, mostly because I was high and drunk
and in my late twenties early thirties. But now that
we're headed into certain cultural oblivion, I figure now is
(01:07):
the best time to watch Workout. I don't want democracy
to end before I've seen what happens to Sky's Sport
and Spa. You know what I'm saying. Workout as a
show about Jackie Warner, a trainer in LA who has
opened an aspirational gym in Beverly Hills. The show premiered
in two thousand and six and ran for three seasons.
(01:27):
The show is a precursor, in my opinion, to vander
Pump Rules, a workplace docu soap with hot, slutty people.
It's Taylor made for me, a hot slut just to
be totally transparent. The thought of recapping a show is
so boring to me. I personally would never listen to
another person tell me everything that happened on a show
they saw. So this is less recap, more of a
(01:49):
deep dive into an early Bravo show and what the
world was like before iPhones. Seriously, the Dick pics in
this series are all on flip phones, not many pixels.
Oh those were the days. My dick always looked better
on a Nokia Brick. I was living in LA during
(02:10):
the time of Workout, so I'm excited to take a
trip back to that chaotic time. I care about very
few things in this human life I'm being forced to live,
and lesbian drama is right at the top of that
very short list. This show workout is gay, sluttye, lesbianic,
(02:31):
and teeming with quivering g spot or gasmatron overload. So,
without any further ado, welcome to Show Pony Season one workout. Oh,
oh my god, my first guess.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I can't believe this. It's like, truly such an honor.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Andrew Muscarella.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You can say Muscuarrella, you can say Muscarrella.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
What do you play for? I would say.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Muscarella, but like I've gotten it all, I've gotten Mascrella,
you musk or mask? I would say, I'm I'm more Muskue.
I guess that's just because I live in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
True, When did you first know you were Italian? I
mean gay?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, that's a really good way to put it together,
because like every Italian is gay, and I'm kidding. First
time I knew I was gay probably that I felt
something sixth grade. Yeah, yeah, that was justin but it
was justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You were a late bloomer. I was early. Yeah. Okay,
let's talk about workout. Please, so the reason I wanted
you on the show. Yeah, as my first premiere guest. Yeah,
I love you. I love you too. Good children podcasts
will listen to it. Please go to session train like
we need it. You're a fitness coach I am, and
a brilliant person.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm a fitness coach.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Are brilliant and gay and Italian? Yeah, yeah, and from
New York.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know how to work out? I do.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know how to work out. I know how to
get a fat ass.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I've been in fitness. I actually don't even know
how long I've been in fitness at this point.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Had you ever heard of workout before? No? Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
See, like, well when you asked me if I ever
heard of it? And then you told me the year
it came out, and you said, were you even alive?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Were you even two thousand and six? Were you elive?
You were ten? I was ten.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The fact that you even asked me that question, it's like,
do I look that young? You could be twenty, I
could be twenty. I like, why b I fetishize? I
don't want to be twenty? No, that was wild.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I will Where were you in two thousand and six
as a ten year old.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Like mentally or physically mentally, well, I was just about
to realize I was gay. Okay, I knew things were
I knew things were different. I was fifth grade. I
was class president because I love attention. Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I was you know, I was on Long Island and
just being a kid, loving life, putting on a wig
and posting it to the internet before I was feeling
any judgment.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I wonder if you, during all that busy schedule, being
the class president, putting on wigs and stuff, if maybe
you walk past the TV at some point and did
see Jackie Warner being just like living her lesbian workout truth,
I think maybe it turned you gay.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It probably seeing her did turn me gay. Well now
it's whoa.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Now watching it back, I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I think as a kid, especially as a chubby kid,
I probably shut out most of that workouts up. I
knew Jillian Michaels. I knew her, and she was always
in my ear. I knew Jenny. I knew I wasn't
calling Jenny Craig. I knew her though, you know what
I mean. Everybody in school was like, have you called
Jenny yet?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It was like that people bullied you. Oh my god,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's why I have a podcast, you know what
I mean. It's like a product of trauma.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't know they were that mean.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, it sucked. Its kids suck, but jokes on. Now
I'm coaching them in classes exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And you're a really good coach. I took one of
Andrew's classes not too long ago. You're an amazing coach.
Thank you. And I have been around a long time.
I used to coach. I went to the Crunch Fitness
on Sunset in two thousand and one and the Kickbucks
and coach died or went away, and they were like, well,
there's no more kid FOXX person's gone. And I was like, no,
(06:02):
that's like the only class I like to take. Then
you just teach it, and so I did. I said,
so what were you doing? Just like kicking hmm. I
had gone to tybo Oh the original, not the tapes, Yeah,
the DVD. I went to the studio Billy Blank Studio
in Sherman Oaks, California, during college and they were like.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You can do anything, please coach our classic and I was.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Like, I took. I took Tibo from Billy Blanks and
they were like whatever, and so I literally I had
no certification or license and I was teaching. I was
like a kick.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, that's no shade and no disrespect to Crunch. Sounds
a lot like Crunch.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, Well, just to put everyone, I want to place
us in two thousand and six. I want to just
before we get into the show, I just want to
do a little refresher about what was happening in two
thousand and six. Since you were ten, you may not
know the answers, but this is more for us all
to collectively experience. Yeah, please, this is there. Two thousand
and sex degrees of sucuration, okay, true or false? Pirates
(06:54):
of the Caribbean, dead Man's Chest, The Da Vinci Code,
and Cars were among the top five movies of the
year bonus for which one of the big was the
biggest true true true? Oh my god, that's sick, no
to the character. Yeah, correct, I guess uh. This young
pop star and aspiring astronaut came out publicly Katie Perry.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh that's fast. Yeah, that's fast. But astronaut was pretty
close because she's.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Going up with space and it should have been aspiring
pops Ye, Britney Spears appeared nude and six months pregnant
with her second child, Jaden, on the cover of What magazine.
You're not going to get it. There's zero chance Harper's bizarre.
Oh yeah, two thousand and six. True or false. Brittany
also filed from for divorce from k fed the same year. True. Wow,
(07:45):
you're good. You know you're Britney. I mean I was ten.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I feel like even though I was ten, I was
really in the pop culture then now not so much
as you are.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I am. Jason just like hosted The Red Carpet Miscast,
which is the pop culture's biggest.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Pop's culture, the bigg's like for Broadway stars. I did
interviewed Nicole's short singer That's major. That was that was major.
That was major.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Kattlls mm hmm. Oprakin front of James. You're not gonna
know this one. James who opracin front of James Fry
on her show for fabricating his memoir. What was the title?
You don't remember this? This guy wrote a book. It
was the biggest book of the year. I read it, Okay,
it was such a big book that I even read
it and I don't read books. Okay, I read it, died,
loved it, went crazy. She had him on and she
was like, wait a minute, it's a memoir. And like
(08:27):
in the memoir, his girlfriend like hangs herself. It's like
this intense true story and she's like it was all fake. No,
maybe not all fake, but like the big things were fake.
And she confronted him and it was this huge thing.
He lost. He like went away for a while. He's back.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
What's with people trying to like write like fake memoirs.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, after that happened, a lot of people were like,
oh no, it's like enhanced memoir.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, it's a style, it's based on a story.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I don't know. I think I think it's also called lying.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Maybe I could just write a memoir at this point,
what would it be? What would it be called? That's
a really good question. I'll have to think about it.
That's your favorite move to coach, my favorite move or
your favorite exercise? My favorite exercise period is a deadlift?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Deadlift by Andrew Muscarolla.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah yeah, because the act of a deadlift is like
inherently horny.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Ask you a question about dead lifts, please, what muscle
is it working? Out. Sometimes I feel like it's my spine.
Sometimes I feel it's just my general core. I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
If you're feeling it in your spine doing you're doing
it wrong. I'll say you should be feeling it and like, yeah,
the backside of your legs.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
To put it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Plainly, like hamstrings glues you stand up ass. Yeah, you
do feel it in your core. Anytime you're holding something,
you feel it in your core. If you feel it
in your lower back, girl.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You're feeling in my back. It's more just like when
I'm in there and I go hard and I go
course heavy, and I'm like, my body is going to explode. Yeah,
it's gonna sap. Okay, now that we're on top that topic,
we'll get back to the game. Two thousand and sex
Degrees of Separation. What if you want to build an ass,
it's deadlifts and hip thrusters.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, hip thrusters, I mean like Romanian deadlifts. So there's
two different types. Well, it depends the way that I
train is mostly kettlebell work. I'm not a barbell queen
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I loved your kettlebell work. I loved the what do
you call the one I guess it is a deadlift.
We have like a kind of like a goblet. It's
down and you can do so there's there's two different versions.
You always can have dual deadlifts. That's two kettlebells. You
have a rookcase suitcase at your sides. A Romanian deadlift
doesn't touch the floor. A kettlebell deadlift touches. I feel
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like Romanian works my ass cheeks hard.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's just like it just makes more sense. I feel
like Romanians working their asses.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, what's I would like? I would like that, what's
a sissy squad? And why is it called that? I
never felt good saying that, and like it's always.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Weird when a straight man says it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That's why I'm asking you because it my gym in La.
It's always like okay, now, sissy squats and I'm like,
why are you looking at me? And you're like okay.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It was like suddenly a segmented RuPaul's drag race. It
just feels odd to me. No, sissy squad is like,
isn't it when you go to your toe Like I'm
not really up on your tippy toe. You're going to
your tippy toes and you're kind of like sending your
glutes back and your knees kind of drop. Yeah, I'm
not necessarily doing sissy squats. It just doesn't It doesn't
feel good for me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
How are you feeling about our angles of cameras right now?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I feel nice. I'm in like, yeah, oh god, thank you. Yeah,
I feel like you're I can talk. I could talk.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I know. I love it for hours. Okay, back to
the game. Okay, what famous dead movie star appeared? And
you're not gonna know that one. People went crazy to
ask me.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You can educate me, feel free to educate that.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
There was all right, The question was going to be
about Gap had this ad and Audrey Hepburn danced around
in it like an old type of her dancing. They
like it was before maybe it was like CGI like
kind of isolated her image, and she was like it
was the biggest commercial spawned a lot of like parodies.
You never heard of it? Never heard of it? I
(12:02):
have to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean it's on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So people went crazy for H and M's designer collaboration
with what Dutch designers.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Dutch Design von Dutch. I'm like, okay, have you heard
of them? No, it's okay, this is really aging me.
I'm just so young and so I was thrown ass
woman when you said two thousand and one when you
were doing kickboxing. Yeah, girl, my eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Were barely open a college, I know. Yeah, I was five.
True or false. That seventies show Malcolm in the Middle
and Arrested Development all aired their final episodes. True. These
are all true.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It actually is like you not putting any of them
being falls. It's like so classic.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, I didn't have time taking Eddie task of like
it's got to be true. Sure or false. Thirty Rock
and Ugly Betty both aired their first episodes True, Oh
my god, you got it right.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Howard Stern re launched his show on Serious satellite radio.
Hold on, let me think true. True, Okay, god, you
have three seconds to seeing the melody of the biggest
song of the year, Daniel Powder's.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Bad Day because you had a bad day, you take
your month down. Yeah, that one really did, because I
knew that one because of American Idol that anytime someone
went home, bad Day started playing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, horrible. I just saw a montage of that.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's like it's really sad. That's like what was going
on culturally though with like the saddest songs you've ever heard.
These artists were like really leaning in. He was leaning in.
You know what song this wasn't two thousand and six,
but I was recently listening to was seven years number
seven years by Lucas Graham. Who's that holy?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You're kidding me? I was busy doing three year old?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh yeah, soon will be sixty years old?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Like that, here's a segarette me. I hate those kinds
of songs. Yeah, I like a sad song, but that's
so those were offensive to me. They were cheesy. You
know what song I hate most? My number one was
hated Song of the World Bubbly by Colby I want
(14:05):
to ams.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
We how does it even go? It's like my.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, I want to cut my skin off with
the dull.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
She was just happy and you can't you can't knock
a girl that wants to bring joy. You know, she
had a POV she did, she did call her what
of this? Her dad was a record executive? Was he
she was NAPO?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, she's not a person.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That song and like some could say talent, I mean
talent she could get in the records, like she could
get in the studio and like they can put it together.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You're right, ob did It was a huge song, yeah,
she said. Another one that was kind of annoying anyway,
congratulations where everywhere I I sidetracked us. The one billiant
song was sold on iTunes. It was Coldplay's song what
Coldplay song?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What No? What was?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
It was yellow No a speed of Sound?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Are you a Coldplay fan? When they first came out
they were major to me?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, they're still there. They are still humane.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I like their last album with Max Martin. Yeah, listen,
they're good. They're good. You gotta give them up to
them because they could have gone the route of like
Dave Matthew's band and become just like a joke. But
they're still great.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They're like taking over the world. I was in Mexico
City and they were like the Coldplay is like their savior.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, they're like you two. They're like one of those
bands that's still cool, even though now they're like always
on the radio. Yeah. Microsoft tried to jump on the
MP three player craze and launched what what was their
MP three player called this is All two thousand and six.
We're just getting in the zone.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was Microsoft's MP three player.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Called zoom Zoom zoom.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You're zooming.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Gooting for zoom Okay? Who won the fifth season of
American Idol, which was also the biggest show on TV.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh my god, hold on, hold on, I can do
the top four the first four seasons. Why I'm gonna
blank Okay. First was Kellie Clarkson, Second was Ruben Zuttered. Third, No,
second was sorry. Second was Fantasia Brino. Third was Ruben Sttered.
Fourth was Carrie Underwood. Fifth, Oh, I get it. Oh
my god, it's it's Oh my god. David Cook, No,
(16:24):
because I know. Seven was Jordan Sparks.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Holy, it was a little bit of a departure.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Was was it Taylor Hicks? Because Katherine McFee should have one.
I'll never get over. Although Katherine McFee these days she's
swinging right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's when I heard. It's unfortunate, but it's okay. She
she killed it him smashed. She'll come back, She'll she'll
come back. She'll come back to us for sure. Lauren
Conrad moved from where to where? Oh girl, I just
think about it. What show did she start on?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
She's the OCI well, and then she moved to OC.
Then she moved to County, the Hills, the Hill, Oh
the Hell's Girl, this sucks?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
High school musical, first Airground, Disney Channel this year.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Sure falls true, let's get it. That's what that was
really getting me. That was my pop culture.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
True or false. The first tweet was ever sent? Tweet
was ever sent?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
True?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Who was tweeting? I didn't dig that to you, but
I just know this is it's like imagine having I
think it was like the first like because like I
started doing Twitter in two thousand and eight, and I
thought it came out like right then. So this must
have been Rob Curly. You started doing Twitter, I started
doing Twitter. Do you want to do Twitter later?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like kind of like yeah, it's like what they called
twigs is Twitter's Yeah, Okay, last one. I don't know
if you're gonna be able to get it. She or false?
Oh shit. Facebook was open to everyone, not just college students.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
True because I had a Facebook profile fifth grade, sixth grade.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I was so obsessed with Facebook. It was like, oh,
I had notes on my phone. I'm using the phone
to record. I guess I've already asked you personal questions
about working out more. Okay, so you're looking your you
now that you're just twenty five. Well, yeah, you were
only ten when Workout came out. Okay, so you watched
the pilot, yes, Uh, what was your reaction of seeing
(18:17):
Jackie's Jim Sky Sport and spa to me, Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
If I was of the age in two thousand and six,
that would be the place that I wanted to work
for sure. At one hundred percent, I think that she
ran it really. I mean she ran a tight ship.
She ran a tight ship.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But they had everything that you needed.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And in the first pilot episode they wanted to start
group fitness classes and she was right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, there's your impression of just her personally.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
My worst nightmare, my worst nightmare. I mean, like, again,
you needed at this time, I think two thousands, it
was the it was the era of the Jackies, the
Gillian Michaels. It was a strong, badass woman that wasn't taking.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It was very much like do you have what it takes? Yeah?
Oh yeah, And if you can't prove to me that
you don't have what it takes, you're out.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You're out.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, And it was like it's so serious, you know
what I mean, likes that's what I'm like realizing now
even working in fitness now, it's like people really take
it very, very seriously, especially when they're at the top,
and it's like, girl, it's so fine.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's working out, we're working.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Out, and like the client, this is the thing. The
client doesn't know the difference. So it's like if you
were to tell them to do a squat and like
maybe their forms a little bit off. Yeah, they trust you.
Over time, you'll build that rapport with them, but it's
not so serious. Jackie like interjecting NonStop with what was
that man's name?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Hey, that was my question for you. So if you're
put yourself in Brian Bryer's position, you're teaching someone how
the thing about the gym is it's all machines and
it's just like okay, I try set push down, Like
it's not that complicated. No, but I love that. For
the show, they knew they needed a plot point and
like she needed to and yeah, so Jackie goes over
and gives him an adjustment like, hey, it needs to.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Be more like this in front of the client, and
in my mind it's like whatever, But then he gets
upset about it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Would you be upset if your boss told you gave
you a note in front of somebody, wouldn't I feel.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Like that's personal training. One on one though, It's like
it is, you have a you have your clients, they
trust you. So when there is somebody else, even if
they're a boss, that comes in and they undermine you,
it's like to the client, wait, maybe this newer doesn't
know what exactly like they're lying to me. Yeah, i'd
be pissed, but I mean I'm such a passive person.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I would be like, that's so. And you're also
a perfect trainer. You don't need any notes. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I mean he was also, to his credit, like besides
the confessional, he was very respectful of her totally, but
she wanted to make it seem like he was like
a shitty.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Drama for the show. For sure. Do you find Bryan Hot,
I find Brian.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I do find Brian Hut And there was something in
he's straight Yeah, yeah, I mean his eyebrows were done.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It was two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You're right, it was a different time, and especially who
am I to judge on Taylor Islands. People are getting
their eyebrows and they're going to get a tat spray
tan right, I just typra God. I know portub really
looks good on you. It's embarrassing. No, it's not embarrassing.
I'm a member at Sugar and Bronze.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So I go once month.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Do you get a free face spray like I do
like every week?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So I don't get it. So it's different because you're
in la right here, I'm like, why do I need
a face spray?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's you look good? What do you mean I look good?
I mean like, you get a free membership. It is
free with your membership.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I feel like, now that we're approaching spring summer, I'm
gonna be letting her spray my face whenever she wants.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
As your gay elder, I want you to go and
use that membership, and I want you to go every
once a week have them blow a load on your face.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And they're always so nice. They're always like chatting me
up there, like why are you getting spray today? I'm like,
oh my god, girl, Like I wish I could say
here forever? Have you can I ask you a really
intimate question, have you ever gotten sugared?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
There? I've never gotten sugared period? Okay, And I don't
really know, so they ripped the hair off your asshole.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, it's just kind of like, oh, have you ever
heard Well, now I'm just talking about random heard about
the sugar Daddy in New York City.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I talked about this on My Serious show with Alaska
You're kidding, and Alaska acted like I was the craziest person.
I thought it was just in New York. Did you
tell me? No, Billy told me about doctor Sugar. It's
here in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, there's a sugar daddy here, Sugar, and he drives
to your house in a van. Right, Well, maybe there's wait,
maybe we're talking about two different So we.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Drive to your house and like Sugar or you go
to his van. I think you go to his I
think you go to him.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Okay, but I'm only thinking about one guy. I don't
even know his name. Maybe there's multiple sugar Daddy's in
the city. But I know that he definitely does it
for content too, like people are like content, Like, I'm sure, yeah,
there's like an only fans. Oh there's a lot of
there's a lot of that these days. But I was
really conceive or getting sugared by him, not that I
want my hole to be smooth. Like to me, I'm like,
would you.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Do it for video?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I know I personally can get that would be crazy.
I would need a cut.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You need the money. I would need the money.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I would need the money straight up, because I think
that like we could be onto something there, but I
don't personally want my whole sugar. I need to try
it once.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Though, so it just removes the hair from your head.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It just removes the hair from the hole. It just
makes everything so much easier.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Do you think Jackie Warner had a hairy hole?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think that she is somebody who wanted a hairy
hole for sure. Wow, Like she was probably rubbing some
stuff on there to just get a little bit more hair.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
What did you think of her girlfriend? Mimi? Are she?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Are they still together? I was trying to do my
research now she's Jackie looks happily married or No.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm purposely not jumping too far ahead because I want
to experience it. Because I never watched I work out
this is not even a rewatch, it's a watch.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh see, I'm actually camp I'm gonna be listening to
this podcast every week because I genuinely watched the first
ten minutes and said, I'm home.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, you know, I'm going to interview Jackie for the
last one. There's only six episodes, and you're kidding me. No,
my friend knows her and hooked us up. And aren't
there three seasons? There's three seasons, so you're gonna interview
her for the final No, the first one? Get her
in here? Why her?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And let's give the people what they want. Yeah, I
don't waste any time, but I'm not going to talk
about her because I'm mompsas well. Yeah too, But what
were we asking?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
The MEMI little Yeah, the girlfriend. I mean, she seemed.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's tough.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She seemed inherently a little bit jealous. It's just what
I was gathering. They were both trainers. How could you
also be a trainer and see your girlfriend have like
this empire?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Sorry, you don't want to be competitive with your partner,
but sometimes it happens.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Jackie was thirty eight thirty seven during the filming of Workout,
and that's so young to have a huge that must
have cost so much money. I wonder if she was rich.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
She looked twenties. She looked really good.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, her face, he's sixteen oh or fifty seven. I think,
wow that I did look up. Yeah, of course I
thought Brian was hot. I let's go through the guys
and say it was okay.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't know their names because this was just me
watching the pilot, but Brian's hot, older, gay love. Oh
my god, Doug, Doug, I would let dog Andrew teach
me how to do a deadlift.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He's dead, speaking of no pun intended. No, I know,
like that happens when you wikipedia this show spoiler alert,
you find out that, like Doug passes away. I don't
on the show. I don't think on the show. Oh
my god, I think we would know if he died
(25:34):
on the show. You know, I need to know.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I need to know cause of death. I know we
don't have any access to that right now, and that's
so so fine.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But okay, I don't know. I mean I have He
was cute. He was cute. Not gay or was he No,
there was one that was like he was gay.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I am gay.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I have a boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He was hot, he was he was cute.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He had my favorite kind of body too big.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah it was it was big. It was big and beefy.
He was like, yeah, he had nice eyes.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And he was a nice guy, and I remember like
he yeah, he just had like older brother energy anyway,
which you're into that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So what I'm gathering is like you just said that
you like the guy's big and b fee, but then
he had older brother energy and that's what really turned you. Okay,
so this is like a friend way yeah, not like
a you're my actual brother white lotust oh and.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Like yeah, yeah, it's like a little guy, hey, big bro.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Rebecca the I won't say slat, but she leads with
her sexuality is Rebecca ass Smacker. Yeah, she has like
the Rachel from Friends gonea wrong, gonna rise Rachel from Friends.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's it's did you know that the Rachel's back in?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah? You know who has it currently? Let me think
about it. Let me take you back and wait, give
me a hint. Okay, who has it currently?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So you wouldn't even know her. You wouldn't even know
her if you passed her on the street. But let
me take you back. Let me give you a hint. Okay,
childhood star him with her sister Ellen Show Big Deal,
Nick Rosie, Rosie Soia Grace and Rosie Rosie has the
ra currently. Yes, she's a pop star. So Fia Grace
(27:15):
is a mother, she's mothering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rosie is
still trying. They were so talented, so such an amazing voice.
I started listening to Rosie. We talked about this on
The Good Children. She has a new song called Headband
head Rush, fantastic. She has the Rachel and she looks
really good with it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Rebecca has the Rachel and it looks extreme.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, Rebecca was extreme. Was she the one that was
training the Playboy Bunny?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Hm?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
There was one that was like, I.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Smack the asses of my clients. She's like just hitting
their ass.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Well, that's the thing. A lot of the stuff in
this show would never fly today. She's also the one
I think, I don't know if it happens in this
episode of I also watched. I watched the first two.
It might happen in the second one, and I will
cover it extensively the next one if it does. But
she shows a dick pic to Jody Wattlee. That's so good,
that's so good. We need to normalize that was making
notes and I was like, oh, shows a dick pic
(28:12):
to Jody Wattley and I didn't even laugh. And then
I thought about it later and I was like, that
is a imagine writing the hot sheet in the field
the story producer in the reality show. Like, and then
she showed a dick pic to Jody Wattlee and like,
if you showed a dick pic to somebody nowadays without
their consent, you can in trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I got in trouble for saying that on the radio
the other by Kenya Moore. She came after me. She like,
like the head week on Newsweek. The headline of news
was like Kenny Moore slams Andy's co host for talking
about dick pics. Yeah, because she showed, like she showed
a group of people got this poster this girl sucking
a dick or whatever, and I hadn't seen it. They
(28:52):
were just talking about it, and I'm like, oh, that's crazy,
that's a bad thing to do. And I was like,
someone was just telling me the other day that like,
showing dick pics without someone's permission is like a form
of sexual assault. I wasn't saying she needs to go
to jail for rape, but no, it was a conversation
that I had, Like, so you were on you were
on the front line saying it wasn't and then she
(29:13):
was like she was doing that. Yeah, I mean a
hundred Okay, what's the alternative to you, like, oh, sorry,
show everyone whatever dick you want without their per.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean, if I was to like, I don't know
if you're showing dickpics to people, not personal ones, but sometime,
but if someone's like, if someone sent me a dick
pic and I'm in the moment, and then I'm like
with a friend, I'm like, wait, do you want to
see this? If they say no, then I'm so fine.
But if they say yes, I'm like, just take a
quick peek. But yeah, consent to sexy.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Bringing back to workout, I was at Barry's the other
day and my train, my my trainer came up and
showed me a dick pic of somebody in the glass
right before. But I did It's crazy, I don't mind.
That's what Kenyans know. I showed me every dick. Yeah,
But I like, there's a lot of guys on Grinder
(30:02):
and stuff that, like, I always appreciate when someone says, hey,
can I can I send you something else?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And was like, go, that's such a sweet ass. Well yeah,
bombarded with holes. Now never lead this is this is good.
This is good for people to hear it. Never lead
with whole or dick. Have the have a minor conversation, right,
small conversation what brings you on? I know people don't
like that question. I know they don't, but sometimes you
need to hit them with the heavy, heavy hitter.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
What brings you on?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They say, it's always going to be two responses, pretty
open hbu that one's like, I know you're here for fun.
Then they'll go fun and friends maybe more. That's that's
the second option. Then you're like, oh, right, you want
to swap picks, but I always I always hit him
with our nudes. Okay, yeah, because that's so fine.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, And then like, what do you say about You
don't have to say what you're into? Yeah, what do
I say back? If somebody says into, I never want
I supposed to write a list. I'm an open book.
I mean, it just seems like such a like boring
things are right back, it was like there's not very
not a lot of romance to that.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
There's not a lot of romance to it, I will say.
People who say into, it's again most no top bottom
for sure, But then what I say, verse?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But I mean I wish I was Verse. It's the
it's literally like have you read Whole Talks? No, you
don't need it. I don't even know what that does.
It makes you, makes you hold a bottom better?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh then I need it. Well, actually I'm so fine
right now. But when you unlock Verse, it's it's like
when you're flipping.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I need to unlock. It's like circudy so light.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's like it's like I am I'm having I'm having
an amazing time at this person. Yeah, just going back
and forth. Anyways, So back to work.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I wanted to read. I wanted to read the dinner scene. Okay, together,
I want to re enact this as a lesbian drama.
Do you want the wig? You're gonna play me me?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I love the wig. We have to go get it. Sorry,
I got it. I got I don't know. I think
you're yeah, of course, Well if I was me me,
I would be I would wear the wig. We can
share this, right, we can we can act while looking Wow,
(32:20):
you look just like her? Wow, well you even look Brazilian?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Am I good? Because I was thinking about going bond.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I did it last year and I'm fucking old.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, just to people were also telling me not to
shave my head, and I get that, like I want
to buzz just for like I feel like, yes, most
gay is when they're going through something, they'll buzz their
head and then they bleach it blonde. But like it's
either again that also is either you're going through something
or you're trying out being a pig bottom or I
had a transplant. Yeah, but like good for you for
having a transfer. Where do you get it done?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
San Jose, California?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Oh okay, you know who got it? The USA?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Okay, it doesn't need it a hair transplant. As Jackie Warner,
that hair is incredible. It's really good. She like that's
a cut.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It was kind of like it was kind of pixie
right right, but like a little bit different call butch.
But she was serving body like she was always in
like a slight crop and I was like just a
sports year for it. It was like very much during
that time. I don't know if you noticed this because
you were just ten years old. The girls in that
time were doing just the thongs were up to their necks,
(33:31):
the jeans were down by their knees and can see
the thongs were up here. That's making it come back too.
I bet it's making a comeback in the gay community.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And bushback. I can tell you that. I bet Rosie
is sporting a thong. Rachel and a thong.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, Rachel and a poon for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's the name of her memoir. Rachel is so Rachel. Okay,
So we're entering our La restaurant. We've had a fight,
and this is like us making up and we're lesbians.
You're a Mimi, I'm Jackie. Okay, Well, how do you
play some music underneath this? Craig put some lesbian music underneath?
Howdy stranger? Hey, Hi, come over here. Oh you're sweet?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Shut up?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Shut up? Hi baby? How are you? You look gorgeous?
You two crazy top?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, what are you upset about? You're always upset, So
it's hard for me what you're always upset. I'm not
always upset you are. I'm too busy to be upset anymore.
You're busy going to strip clubs. That's nice. As I
(34:44):
told you told you last night before, I was so
rudely hung up on that I went to that that
I literally stopped by that strip club. You know it's
not my thing.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Why would you go to a fucking strip club?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I didn't go a strip club. We were going to
eat right by the strip club, and we just dropped by.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Okay, well, you know what, tomorrow, I'm going to stop
buy a strip club.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Just to eat.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, no, I didn't eat at the strip club. See,
now you're irritating me.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I didn't eat at the strip club. I had a
little sip.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Well it's not cool.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
You're not going to any more strip clubs, all right?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Is that the rule? Yeah, that's the rule. I don't
think that's going to be a hard rule to follow. Deal, deal,
want to shake on it, all right? Okay, so stop
being so irritable. Be sweeter. Okay, give me a kiss. Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I will forgive you if I can bite you really hard.
Not no, no, baby, now, then there's no forgiving.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I know, I know. I will forgive you if I
can bite you hard. That's the only way, if it'll
make you feel better. But don't leave a scar this time.
Oh okay, See that's gonna leave a mark, and then
I have to explain why I have bitemarks on my body.
It's not professional. Okay, now I forget you. I'm gonna
(36:13):
get you a chew toy. Oh we haven't had sex
in a week.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We are going to do a good one at a
sound off it. We haven't had sex in a week,
Yeah we did. When's the last time we had sex?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh, we're gonna have sex tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Ow you pitch my nipple?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Cong Wow, really good.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I honestly think we should be casting something.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
As lesbian lovers. Wow. I mean their relationship really makes
me upset because when I'm around a couple that's fighting. Well,
your hair looks so cute. Yeah. Sometimes its your natural
color too. Yeah natural.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That's why I'm like scared to bleach, because like I
have never done anything to this hair. Wow, it's so
thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You don't need a transplant.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Now, I'm your dad bald, no one, your mom's no one.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You're fine. I'm so fine. You have that thick Italian
that's what they call me.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's actually my grinder dame is it?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
No? Is it t h I see c or thick Italian? Well,
that's probably what is your grinder name.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It's just a like I'm not giving you my name
right off the bat. I'm not like I have face.
I have everything on there.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I have a face too. Yeah, Like I'm do you
ever see me on there?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I never, I've never seen you. I wonder sometimes like
if people block me if they know me? But like
I'm chilling, like I'm respectful of everybody. What's strange I
wouldn't block you on Grinder is when your face is there.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I know you.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I've been in multiple situations with you, We've chatted. We're
never like flirting in real life. Suddenly it's like you
want to send hole. It's I'm like, it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Does that make sense? It's weird.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Let's learn to have conversations again.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
What do you predict is going to happen in season
one of because I don't really know the plot. I
know the basic Wikipedia, but like I'm going this, I'm
going on the journey of this show. Yes, And like
I was a reality producer in two thousand and six
on Other Reality was I can I ask? I read
my whole resume out on my little intro so many
Tori and Dean in Love Project Romway Top show Griff
(38:20):
in My Life on the d List. Okay, Dance Your
Ass Off, which is a weight loss show and a
dance competition. Good that show. I've never seen it. Dance
your Ass Off. Mesa and Walter from Abbott Elementary created it.
She was the head judge.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You're a kidding and.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's the funniest show. It's it's overweight people and it's
like my biggest It's it's like because Dancing with the Stars.
Each week they dance and then they weigh them and
then like you're whoever loses the most Dance your ass Off.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I kind of feel like that needs to be brought
back in different with a different spin. But I think
there's something really good to that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I need to watch it. Dance your tits off and
it's trans.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I actually love Okay, what were you asking? Yeah, she's
so prediction. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I mean like, I'm just going on the journey and
I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'm here for it. Brian's gonna be a problem. He's
gonna be that's the name they've established that they've set
it up. Of course they set it up. There's that
I don't know anything about the new coach. That just
they just brought in, Oh, Jesse, Jesse. Seems like there's
gonna be beef between Jesse and someone.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Jesse's gay. Jesse's gay, so so Doug Jesse gay? Which
Andre is another trainer. We don't see enough Andre in
this first episode. Also Zen the trainers Zen, Yeah one line?
Now she ruins me a missus Swan from Matt TV.
I yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Do you think that they just gave her one line
because like she didn't she wasn't killing it on the
first episode. Character, Yeah, sometimes that happens. Sometimes they like
leave the heavy hitters to the Towards the end.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Jesse becomes a big character. Yeah, because he was again
like I was living in la and all these people
were very much like in the Ether, and people were
talking about them so much. This was a big show,
like maybe just for people.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Who are they still Are any of them still doing it?
And by doing it, I mean slaying slaying And by
that I also mean are they on the internet like
and like crushing the Internet?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Okay, well listen, I only know Jackie who is still
on the Internet and she's also coaching people on FaceTime
and making money.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, oh my god, she has longevity to her career.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, let's separate the internet from actual impact. She clearly
has had impact.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, I mean it's the star of this show. And
like I don't Doug obviously rip ye may he rest.
I have a feeling Rebecca's probably on the internet.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I'm gonna need to check out what Rebecca is doing.
She's probably she still has the Jennifer Yeah, she's definitely
a fun mom. Like she's fun. You think she's mothered definitely, Yeah, Yeah,
she's mothered.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I could see her also in Long Island.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
She was giving she was reading Long Island down. Yeah,
for sure, I can see her. Yeah, I'm from massive Pequa.
I feel like she's she can be a massive Pequa mom.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I could see her like having started some sort of
Tracy Anderson method bullshito, like a this is this is
the problem.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Though, I'm gonna say with workout and with yees, I know,
and there and no shade and no disrespect to anybody
on the show, including Jackie, okay, because I know she's
coming on the show and as a person who we
loved this and we love her and she was like amazing.
Unless she's done really horrible things and on outside. Okay, sure,
I'm just being PC.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, there's a problem with fitness, the fitness and indugery
in general. I think that's why I'm in fitness is
to like kind of like strip back some of the
layers of the toxicity and like the conversation around consumption
of food.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, this show is right in the middle of when
we had bad messaging.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
We had a horrible messaging and it was giving and
I was I was recently on missus Horner's page and
going through some of the videos and some of the reels,
and there was a reel of her getting slack for
telling people if they wanted to lose ten pounds in
ten days. She was like she was giving them advice
on how to do it, and why would you need
(42:20):
to lose why would you need to do that? Like
get the get the stomach virus, you know what I mean?
And then you're literally set.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
That did used to be a thing though, what people
would use to days.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, No, she was like, just you all you need
to do is eat a thousand calories. It's just but
she was like defending it to her core, and I
I am just somebody who it's like let's especially in fitness,
you set smart goals right right, something that you can measure,
something that's achievable, something that's realistic, that's not realistic.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I was on TikTok Live not too long ago, course,
and of course I will never do it again. Really,
was that your first time? I did it for like
three months, like off and on. I made ninety five dollars.
It was fun. But like people who are on there
are doing it all day every day. Yeah, and they're
making so much money. I know, and like if you
if I put all my time in, I was like,
(43:11):
why am I making this? I can't be spending my
last days on earth as like a forty seven year
old man on TikTok Live. What were you doing on
TikTok Live? Just chatting? I like answer the questions that
come in. So a lot of people who listen to
the show. And somebody said something like about they lost
weight or they want to be skinny, and I said, like,
(43:31):
let's forget the word skinny, yeah, like that's an antiquated word.
You want to be strong, you want to be healthy,
be vibrant. Yeah, And I was like trying to encourage
this person and everyone's going back and forth. They're like, yeah,
that's like old school and like let's try to be helped.
That was like whatever, Yeah, and they banned me because
they were like, you're talking about ed like disorders, like
(43:52):
the algorithm heard me just talking about because I even
shared it. I was like I had like food disorders
and things like that, and like it heard that and
like clocked me. Yeah, I gotta warning.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
TikTok is like we post videos to TikTok all the
time and it's like, actually we're getting censored. And it's
weird because I'm like we're actually doing the opposite and
we're talking about our ed or experiences. I don't know
people people like TikTok. I feel like people come for
you for no reason. The industry and for people they Instagram,
(44:23):
I think a little bit more, Yeah, what's happening there?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I don't know now, I don't get It took me
a few months to people.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
People ever mean to you, People aren't mean to me.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
It tends to be.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's a sweet persona though it the only meanness I've
ever gotten was like from other gays.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
It tends to be that way.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's like and I can I'm somebody who can like
understand where when I see jealousy and when I feel it,
and that's where it comes from. But yeah, it would
just be comments on my voice, like like your voice
is insufferable. This is what happens when you let the
boat tox is seeping into their brains. The filler that
ever get both I recently did so that that that
(45:04):
was for the first time, for the first time. Oh
my god, so this was these were allegations before you
did it happen. I didn't need it, but like fuck it,
like you know what transplant, I got it exactly. And
this is the thing about the internet. When you put
yourself out on the internet, people will always make comments
about what you should do. Right, girl, read a book
right and close your phone, because I'm going to do
what makes me happy, and you do what makes you happy.
(45:26):
And that's what working out is. Also, it's like when
you set those goals for yourself, if it makes you happy,
that's what you're going towards. But you're going to drive
yourself crazy if you have horrible goals for yourself.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Workout is like a great example of what things used
to be like in so many different ways. Uh In
the workplace, the things you could say to other people,
hold for sirens, hold for horns. I love New York
City me too. I love the sounds and that, like
the fitness industry, Like looking back, imagine, I can't imagine
(45:57):
going to a gym and paying all of that money.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
She said four hundred dollars a session.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
To go.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Four hundred dollars a session. There's bill in there, unlike anything.
And just to put it into the context, it's like
normal personal trainers, at least in New York City, which
is like the highest rates. I would say normal one
hundred and seventy dollars a session, right, you can push
two hundred if you're like you got a good clientele,
four four hundred.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
See. I think it was maybe overblown for the show.
I think they I think this is the back of
the beginning of the Bravos like entrance into where aspirational
we show off money. You can't attain this clickbaity in
very late everything like oh my god, can you believe
how much money?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Does?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I doubt everyone was paying four hundred dollars. Maybe they were.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
They were good for you, Jackie, and like if you
were paying four hundred dollars call me. Yeah, like if
you have that much money to dish out and I
want to see those results. Yeah, I want to see
the results. And it's like, yeah, are you single? Sugar
talking about sugar daddies, sugar holes, Sugar.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Well, thank you for coming on the show. We're speaking of.
We're gonna go eat our faces off, We're gonna have
steak freeds.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm about to have stak freeds in a French onion
soup and like maybe I'm lacous in tolerant, but you
don't have to know what's going They have a.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Toy letter watch what Happens Life? Well, okay, I love you.
Thank you for Andrew Muscarella, Good Children Children Podcast.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
You can find me on Socials at Andrew Muscarella TikTok
because my manager wants me to tell you this Andrew
at Andrew Underscore, Muski and at Good Children Pod across
all socials.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Thank you for me my first guest on show. So
much Fun. Oh my god, you made my day. I
don't know if any of it recorded, but if it did,
I bet it's great. Girl, we did it. Thank you
so much for joining, Thank you for listening, for watching.
Thank you for subscribing to the YouTube of Show Pony,
and don't forget to join the Patreon. There's gonna be
a lot of bonus content up there. I'm really excited
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about this season. I it has been a weird challenge
to do a solo pod in the kitchenette of a
home that isn't even mine that I'm subletting in New
York City, even though I've been on the radio for
ten years broadcasting and to who knows whose ears, it
was a little bit of a different muscle to figure
out how to do this, and I have to say
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Speaker 2 (49:19):
Thank you,
What's sultry, seductive, and sweaty all over. What's the most
powerful cultural piece of media of this entire century? What
piece of art launched an entire societal revolution? If you
answered Bravo's reality television show Workout from two thousand and six,
you're correct. Do you have what it takes? Because if
you don't have what it takes, you're out of here.
(00:25):
My name is John Hill. I'm a former Bravo TV producer, writer,
and I'm the co host of Andy Cohen Live on
Sirius x SIM. If you want a full ass list
of my credits, just watch the intro to this show.
Show Pony, my new podcast. I know there's a million
Bravo podcasts out there, but stick with me. I wrote
and produced Watch what Happens Live for four years. I've
(00:46):
co hosted with Andy every morning for ten years. I've
been in the bravosphere for a long time, and through
all of that, there's one Bravo show I missed entirely,
and that's Workout, mostly because I was high and drunk
and in my late twenties early thirties. But now that
we're headed into certain cultural oblivion, I figure now is
(01:07):
the best time to watch Workout. I don't want democracy
to end before I've seen what happens to Sky's Sport
and Spa. You know what I'm saying. Workout as a
show about Jackie Warner, a trainer in LA who has
opened an aspirational gym in Beverly Hills. The show premiered
in two thousand and six and ran for three seasons.
(01:27):
The show is a precursor, in my opinion, to vander
Pump Rules, a workplace docu soap with hot, slutty people.
It's Taylor made for me, a hot slut just to
be totally transparent. The thought of recapping a show is
so boring to me. I personally would never listen to
another person tell me everything that happened on a show
they saw. So this is less recap, more of a
(01:49):
deep dive into an early Bravo show and what the
world was like before iPhones. Seriously, the Dick pics in
this series are all on flip phones, not many pixels.
Oh those were the days. My dick always looked better
on a Nokia Brick. I was living in LA during
(02:10):
the time of Workout, so I'm excited to take a
trip back to that chaotic time. I care about very
few things in this human life I'm being forced to live,
and lesbian drama is right at the top of that
very short list. This show workout is gay, sluttye, lesbianic,
(02:31):
and teeming with quivering g spot or gasmatron overload. So,
without any further ado, welcome to Show Pony Season one workout. Oh,
oh my god, my first guess.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I can't believe this. It's like, truly such an honor.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Andrew Muscarella.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You can say Muscuarrella, you can say Muscarrella.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
What do you play for? I would say.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Muscarella, but like I've gotten it all, I've gotten Mascrella,
you musk or mask? I would say, I'm I'm more Muskue.
I guess that's just because I live in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
True, When did you first know you were Italian? I
mean gay?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, that's a really good way to put it together,
because like every Italian is gay, and I'm kidding. First
time I knew I was gay probably that I felt
something sixth grade. Yeah, yeah, that was justin but it
was justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You were a late bloomer. I was early. Yeah. Okay,
let's talk about workout. Please, so the reason I wanted
you on the show. Yeah, as my first premiere guest. Yeah,
I love you. I love you too. Good children podcasts
will listen to it. Please go to session train like
we need it. You're a fitness coach I am, and
a brilliant person.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm a fitness coach.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Are brilliant and gay and Italian? Yeah, yeah, and from
New York.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You know how to work out? I do.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I know how to work out. I know how to
get a fat ass.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah you do.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I've been in fitness. I actually don't even know
how long I've been in fitness at this point.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Had you ever heard of workout before? No? Wow?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
See, like, well when you asked me if I ever
heard of it? And then you told me the year
it came out, and you said, were you even alive?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Were you even two thousand and six? Were you elive?
You were ten? I was ten.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The fact that you even asked me that question, it's like,
do I look that young? You could be twenty, I
could be twenty. I like, why b I fetishize? I
don't want to be twenty? No, that was wild.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I will Where were you in two thousand and six
as a ten year old.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Like mentally or physically mentally, well, I was just about
to realize I was gay. Okay, I knew things were
I knew things were different. I was fifth grade. I
was class president because I love attention. Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I was you know, I was on Long Island and
just being a kid, loving life, putting on a wig
and posting it to the internet before I was feeling
any judgment.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I wonder if you, during all that busy schedule, being
the class president, putting on wigs and stuff, if maybe
you walk past the TV at some point and did
see Jackie Warner being just like living her lesbian workout truth,
I think maybe it turned you gay.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
It probably seeing her did turn me gay. Well now
it's whoa.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Now watching it back, I'm like, whoa.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I think as a kid, especially as a chubby kid,
I probably shut out most of that workouts up. I
knew Jillian Michaels. I knew her, and she was always
in my ear. I knew Jenny. I knew I wasn't
calling Jenny Craig. I knew her though, you know what
I mean. Everybody in school was like, have you called
Jenny yet?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It was like that people bullied you. Oh my god,
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, that's why I have a podcast, you know what
I mean. It's like a product of trauma.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I don't know they were that mean.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, it sucked. Its kids suck, but jokes on. Now
I'm coaching them in classes exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And you're a really good coach. I took one of
Andrew's classes not too long ago. You're an amazing coach.
Thank you. And I have been around a long time.
I used to coach. I went to the Crunch Fitness
on Sunset in two thousand and one and the Kickbucks
and coach died or went away, and they were like, well,
there's no more kid FOXX person's gone. And I was like, no,
(06:02):
that's like the only class I like to take. Then
you just teach it, and so I did. I said,
so what were you doing? Just like kicking hmm. I
had gone to tybo Oh the original, not the tapes, Yeah,
the DVD. I went to the studio Billy Blank Studio
in Sherman Oaks, California, during college and they were like.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You can do anything, please coach our classic and I was.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Like, I took. I took Tibo from Billy Blanks and
they were like whatever, and so I literally I had
no certification or license and I was teaching. I was
like a kick.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, that's no shade and no disrespect to Crunch. Sounds
a lot like Crunch.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, Well, just to put everyone, I want to place
us in two thousand and six. I want to just
before we get into the show, I just want to
do a little refresher about what was happening in two
thousand and six. Since you were ten, you may not
know the answers, but this is more for us all
to collectively experience. Yeah, please, this is there. Two thousand
and sex degrees of sucuration, okay, true or false? Pirates
(06:54):
of the Caribbean, dead Man's Chest, The Da Vinci Code,
and Cars were among the top five movies of the
year bonus for which one of the big was the
biggest true true true? Oh my god, that's sick, no
to the character. Yeah, correct, I guess uh. This young
pop star and aspiring astronaut came out publicly Katie Perry.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh that's fast. Yeah, that's fast. But astronaut was pretty
close because she's.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Going up with space and it should have been aspiring
pops Ye, Britney Spears appeared nude and six months pregnant
with her second child, Jaden, on the cover of What magazine.
You're not going to get it. There's zero chance Harper's bizarre.
Oh yeah, two thousand and six. True or false. Brittany
also filed from for divorce from k fed the same year. True. Wow,
(07:45):
you're good. You know you're Britney. I mean I was ten.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I feel like even though I was ten, I was
really in the pop culture then now not so much
as you are.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I am. Jason just like hosted The Red Carpet Miscast,
which is the pop culture's biggest.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Pop's culture, the bigg's like for Broadway stars. I did
interviewed Nicole's short singer That's major. That was that was major.
That was major.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Kattlls mm hmm. Oprakin front of James. You're not gonna
know this one. James who opracin front of James Fry
on her show for fabricating his memoir. What was the title?
You don't remember this? This guy wrote a book. It
was the biggest book of the year. I read it, Okay,
it was such a big book that I even read
it and I don't read books. Okay, I read it, died,
loved it, went crazy. She had him on and she
was like, wait a minute, it's a memoir. And like
(08:27):
in the memoir, his girlfriend like hangs herself. It's like
this intense true story and she's like it was all fake. No,
maybe not all fake, but like the big things were fake.
And she confronted him and it was this huge thing.
He lost. He like went away for a while. He's back.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
What's with people trying to like write like fake memoirs.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, after that happened, a lot of people were like,
oh no, it's like enhanced memoir.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, it's a style, it's based on a story.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I don't know. I think I think it's also called lying.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Maybe I could just write a memoir at this point,
what would it be? What would it be called? That's
a really good question. I'll have to think about it.
That's your favorite move to coach, my favorite move or
your favorite exercise? My favorite exercise period is a deadlift?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Deadlift by Andrew Muscarolla.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah yeah, because the act of a deadlift is like
inherently horny.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Ask you a question about dead lifts, please, what muscle
is it working? Out. Sometimes I feel like it's my spine.
Sometimes I feel it's just my general core. I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
If you're feeling it in your spine doing you're doing
it wrong. I'll say you should be feeling it and like, yeah,
the backside of your legs.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
To put it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Plainly, like hamstrings glues you stand up ass. Yeah, you
do feel it in your core. Anytime you're holding something,
you feel it in your core. If you feel it
in your lower back, girl.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
You're feeling in my back. It's more just like when
I'm in there and I go hard and I go
course heavy, and I'm like, my body is going to explode. Yeah,
it's gonna sap. Okay, now that we're on top that topic,
we'll get back to the game. Two thousand and sex
Degrees of Separation. What if you want to build an ass,
it's deadlifts and hip thrusters.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, hip thrusters, I mean like Romanian deadlifts. So there's
two different types. Well, it depends the way that I
train is mostly kettlebell work. I'm not a barbell queen
like that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I loved your kettlebell work. I loved the what do
you call the one I guess it is a deadlift.
We have like a kind of like a goblet. It's
down and you can do so there's there's two different versions.
You always can have dual deadlifts. That's two kettlebells. You
have a rookcase suitcase at your sides. A Romanian deadlift
doesn't touch the floor. A kettlebell deadlift touches. I feel
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like Romanian works my ass cheeks hard.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's just like it just makes more sense. I feel
like Romanians working their asses.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No, what's I would like? I would like that, what's
a sissy squad? And why is it called that? I
never felt good saying that, and like it's always.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Weird when a straight man says it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That's why I'm asking you because it my gym in La.
It's always like okay, now, sissy squats and I'm like,
why are you looking at me? And you're like okay.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It was like suddenly a segmented RuPaul's drag race. It
just feels odd to me. No, sissy squad is like,
isn't it when you go to your toe Like I'm
not really up on your tippy toe. You're going to
your tippy toes and you're kind of like sending your
glutes back and your knees kind of drop. Yeah, I'm
not necessarily doing sissy squats. It just doesn't It doesn't
feel good for me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
How are you feeling about our angles of cameras right now?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I feel nice. I'm in like, yeah, oh god, thank you. Yeah,
I feel like you're I can talk. I could talk.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I know. I love it for hours. Okay, back to
the game. Okay, what famous dead movie star appeared? And
you're not gonna know that one. People went crazy to
ask me.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You can educate me, feel free to educate that.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
There was all right, The question was going to be
about Gap had this ad and Audrey Hepburn danced around
in it like an old type of her dancing. They
like it was before maybe it was like CGI like
kind of isolated her image, and she was like it
was the biggest commercial spawned a lot of like parodies.
You never heard of it? Never heard of it? I
(12:02):
have to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean it's on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
So people went crazy for H and M's designer collaboration
with what Dutch designers.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Dutch Design von Dutch. I'm like, okay, have you heard
of them? No, it's okay, this is really aging me.
I'm just so young and so I was thrown ass
woman when you said two thousand and one when you
were doing kickboxing. Yeah, girl, my eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Were barely open a college, I know. Yeah, I was five.
True or false. That seventies show Malcolm in the Middle
and Arrested Development all aired their final episodes. True. These
are all true.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It actually is like you not putting any of them
being falls. It's like so classic.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, I didn't have time taking Eddie task of like
it's got to be true. Sure or false. Thirty Rock
and Ugly Betty both aired their first episodes True, Oh
my god, you got it right.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Howard Stern re launched his show on Serious satellite radio.
Hold on, let me think true. True, Okay, god, you
have three seconds to seeing the melody of the biggest
song of the year, Daniel Powder's.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Bad Day because you had a bad day, you take
your month down. Yeah, that one really did, because I
knew that one because of American Idol that anytime someone
went home, bad Day started playing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, horrible. I just saw a montage of that.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's like it's really sad. That's like what was going
on culturally though with like the saddest songs you've ever heard.
These artists were like really leaning in. He was leaning in.
You know what song this wasn't two thousand and six,
but I was recently listening to was seven years number
seven years by Lucas Graham. Who's that holy?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You're kidding me? I was busy doing three year old?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh yeah, soon will be sixty years old?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Like that, here's a segarette me. I hate those kinds
of songs. Yeah, I like a sad song, but that's
so those were offensive to me. They were cheesy. You
know what song I hate most? My number one was
hated Song of the World Bubbly by Colby I want
(14:05):
to ams.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
We how does it even go? It's like my.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, I want to cut my skin off with
the dull.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
She was just happy and you can't you can't knock
a girl that wants to bring joy. You know, she
had a POV she did, she did call her what
of this? Her dad was a record executive? Was he
she was NAPO?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, she's not a person.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That song and like some could say talent, I mean
talent she could get in the records, like she could
get in the studio and like they can put it together.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
You're right, ob did It was a huge song, yeah,
she said. Another one that was kind of annoying anyway,
congratulations where everywhere I I sidetracked us. The one billiant
song was sold on iTunes. It was Coldplay's song what
Coldplay song?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What No? What was?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
It was yellow No a speed of Sound?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Are you a Coldplay fan? When they first came out
they were major to me?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, they're still there. They are still humane.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I like their last album with Max Martin. Yeah, listen,
they're good. They're good. You gotta give them up to
them because they could have gone the route of like
Dave Matthew's band and become just like a joke. But
they're still great.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They're like taking over the world. I was in Mexico
City and they were like the Coldplay is like their savior.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, they're like you two. They're like one of those
bands that's still cool, even though now they're like always
on the radio. Yeah. Microsoft tried to jump on the
MP three player craze and launched what what was their
MP three player called this is All two thousand and six.
We're just getting in the zone.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was Microsoft's MP three player.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Called zoom Zoom zoom.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You're zooming.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Gooting for zoom Okay? Who won the fifth season of
American Idol, which was also the biggest show on TV.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh my god, hold on, hold on, I can do
the top four the first four seasons. Why I'm gonna
blank Okay. First was Kellie Clarkson, Second was Ruben Zuttered. Third, No,
second was sorry. Second was Fantasia Brino. Third was Ruben Sttered.
Fourth was Carrie Underwood. Fifth, Oh, I get it. Oh
my god, it's it's Oh my god. David Cook, No,
(16:24):
because I know. Seven was Jordan Sparks.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Holy, it was a little bit of a departure.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Was was it Taylor Hicks? Because Katherine McFee should have one.
I'll never get over. Although Katherine McFee these days she's
swinging right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's when I heard. It's unfortunate, but it's okay. She
she killed it him smashed. She'll come back, She'll she'll
come back. She'll come back to us for sure. Lauren
Conrad moved from where to where? Oh girl, I just
think about it. What show did she start on?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
She's the OCI well, and then she moved to OC.
Then she moved to County, the Hills, the Hill, Oh
the Hell's Girl, this sucks?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
High school musical, first Airground, Disney Channel this year.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Sure falls true, let's get it. That's what that was
really getting me. That was my pop culture.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
True or false. The first tweet was ever sent? Tweet
was ever sent?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
True?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Who was tweeting? I didn't dig that to you, but
I just know this is it's like imagine having I
think it was like the first like because like I
started doing Twitter in two thousand and eight, and I
thought it came out like right then. So this must
have been Rob Curly. You started doing Twitter, I started
doing Twitter. Do you want to do Twitter later?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like kind of like yeah, it's like what they called
twigs is Twitter's Yeah, Okay, last one. I don't know
if you're gonna be able to get it. She or false?
Oh shit. Facebook was open to everyone, not just college students.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
True because I had a Facebook profile fifth grade, sixth grade.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I was so obsessed with Facebook. It was like, oh,
I had notes on my phone. I'm using the phone
to record. I guess I've already asked you personal questions
about working out more. Okay, so you're looking your you
now that you're just twenty five. Well, yeah, you were
only ten when Workout came out. Okay, so you watched
the pilot, yes, Uh, what was your reaction of seeing
(18:17):
Jackie's Jim Sky Sport and spa to me, Yeah, I thought.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
If I was of the age in two thousand and six,
that would be the place that I wanted to work
for sure. At one hundred percent, I think that she
ran it really. I mean she ran a tight ship.
She ran a tight ship.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But they had everything that you needed.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And in the first pilot episode they wanted to start
group fitness classes and she was right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, there's your impression of just her personally.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
My worst nightmare, my worst nightmare. I mean, like, again,
you needed at this time, I think two thousands, it
was the it was the era of the Jackies, the
Gillian Michaels. It was a strong, badass woman that wasn't taking.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It was very much like do you have what it takes? Yeah?
Oh yeah, And if you can't prove to me that
you don't have what it takes, you're out.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You're out.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, And it was like it's so serious, you know
what I mean, likes that's what I'm like realizing now
even working in fitness now, it's like people really take
it very, very seriously, especially when they're at the top,
and it's like, girl, it's so fine.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's working out, we're working.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Out, and like the client, this is the thing. The
client doesn't know the difference. So it's like if you
were to tell them to do a squat and like
maybe their forms a little bit off. Yeah, they trust you.
Over time, you'll build that rapport with them, but it's
not so serious. Jackie like interjecting NonStop with what was
that man's name?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Hey, that was my question for you. So if you're
put yourself in Brian Bryer's position, you're teaching someone how
the thing about the gym is it's all machines and
it's just like okay, I try set push down, Like
it's not that complicated. No, but I love that. For
the show, they knew they needed a plot point and
like she needed to and yeah, so Jackie goes over
and gives him an adjustment like, hey, it needs to.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Be more like this in front of the client, and
in my mind it's like whatever, But then he gets
upset about it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Would you be upset if your boss told you gave
you a note in front of somebody, wouldn't I feel.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Like that's personal training. One on one though, It's like
it is, you have a you have your clients, they
trust you. So when there is somebody else, even if
they're a boss, that comes in and they undermine you,
it's like to the client, wait, maybe this newer doesn't
know what exactly like they're lying to me. Yeah, i'd
be pissed, but I mean I'm such a passive person.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I would be like, that's so. And you're also
a perfect trainer. You don't need any notes. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I mean he was also, to his credit, like besides
the confessional, he was very respectful of her totally, but
she wanted to make it seem like he was like
a shitty.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Drama for the show. For sure. Do you find Bryan Hot,
I find Brian.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I do find Brian Hut And there was something in
he's straight Yeah, yeah, I mean his eyebrows were done.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
It was two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You're right, it was a different time, and especially who
am I to judge on Taylor Islands. People are getting
their eyebrows and they're going to get a tat spray
tan right, I just typra God. I know portub really
looks good on you. It's embarrassing. No, it's not embarrassing.
I'm a member at Sugar and Bronze.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So I go once month.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Do you get a free face spray like I do
like every week?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So I don't get it. So it's different because you're
in la right here, I'm like, why do I need
a face spray?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's you look good? What do you mean I look good?
I mean like, you get a free membership. It is
free with your membership.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I feel like, now that we're approaching spring summer, I'm
gonna be letting her spray my face whenever she wants.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
As your gay elder, I want you to go and
use that membership, and I want you to go every
once a week have them blow a load on your face.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And they're always so nice. They're always like chatting me
up there, like why are you getting spray today? I'm like,
oh my god, girl, Like I wish I could say
here forever? Have you can I ask you a really
intimate question, have you ever gotten sugared?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
There? I've never gotten sugared period? Okay, And I don't
really know, so they ripped the hair off your asshole.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, it's just kind of like, oh, have you ever
heard Well, now I'm just talking about random heard about
the sugar Daddy in New York City.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I talked about this on My Serious show with Alaska
You're kidding, and Alaska acted like I was the craziest person.
I thought it was just in New York. Did you
tell me? No, Billy told me about doctor Sugar. It's
here in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, there's a sugar daddy here, Sugar, and he drives
to your house in a van. Right, Well, maybe there's wait,
maybe we're talking about two different So we.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Drive to your house and like Sugar or you go
to his van. I think you go to his I
think you go to him.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Okay, but I'm only thinking about one guy. I don't
even know his name. Maybe there's multiple sugar Daddy's in
the city. But I know that he definitely does it
for content too, like people are like content, Like, I'm sure, yeah,
there's like an only fans. Oh there's a lot of
there's a lot of that these days. But I was
really conceive or getting sugared by him, not that I
want my hole to be smooth. Like to me, I'm like,
would you.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Do it for video?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I know I personally can get that would be crazy.
I would need a cut.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You need the money. I would need the money.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I would need the money straight up, because I think
that like we could be onto something there, but I
don't personally want my whole sugar. I need to try
it once.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Though, so it just removes the hair from your head.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It just removes the hair from the hole. It just
makes everything so much easier.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Do you think Jackie Warner had a hairy hole?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think that she is somebody who wanted a hairy
hole for sure. Wow, Like she was probably rubbing some
stuff on there to just get a little bit more hair.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
What did you think of her girlfriend? Mimi? Are she?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Are they still together? I was trying to do my
research now she's Jackie looks happily married or No.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm purposely not jumping too far ahead because I want
to experience it. Because I never watched I work out
this is not even a rewatch, it's a watch.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh see, I'm actually camp I'm gonna be listening to
this podcast every week because I genuinely watched the first
ten minutes and said, I'm home.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, you know, I'm going to interview Jackie for the
last one. There's only six episodes, and you're kidding me. No,
my friend knows her and hooked us up. And aren't
there three seasons? There's three seasons, so you're gonna interview
her for the final No, the first one? Get her
in here? Why her?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And let's give the people what they want. Yeah, I
don't waste any time, but I'm not going to talk
about her because I'm mompsas well. Yeah too, But what
were we asking?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
The MEMI little Yeah, the girlfriend. I mean, she seemed.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's tough.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She seemed inherently a little bit jealous. It's just what
I was gathering. They were both trainers. How could you
also be a trainer and see your girlfriend have like
this empire?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Sorry, you don't want to be competitive with your partner,
but sometimes it happens.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Jackie was thirty eight thirty seven during the filming of Workout,
and that's so young to have a huge that must
have cost so much money. I wonder if she was rich.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
She looked twenties. She looked really good.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Well, her face, he's sixteen oh or fifty seven. I think,
wow that I did look up. Yeah, of course I
thought Brian was hot. I let's go through the guys
and say it was okay.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't know their names because this was just me
watching the pilot, but Brian's hot, older, gay love. Oh
my god, Doug, Doug, I would let dog Andrew teach
me how to do a deadlift.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
He's dead, speaking of no pun intended. No, I know,
like that happens when you wikipedia this show spoiler alert,
you find out that, like Doug passes away. I don't
on the show. I don't think on the show. Oh
my god, I think we would know if he died
(25:34):
on the show. You know, I need to know.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I need to know cause of death. I know we
don't have any access to that right now, and that's
so so fine.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But okay, I don't know. I mean I have He
was cute. He was cute. Not gay or was he No,
there was one that was like he was gay.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I am gay.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I have a boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He was hot, he was he was cute.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He had my favorite kind of body too big.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah it was it was big. It was big and beefy.
He was like, yeah, he had nice eyes.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And he was a nice guy, and I remember like
he yeah, he just had like older brother energy anyway,
which you're into that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So what I'm gathering is like you just said that
you like the guy's big and b fee, but then
he had older brother energy and that's what really turned you. Okay,
so this is like a friend way yeah, not like
a you're my actual brother white lotust oh and.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Like yeah, yeah, it's like a little guy, hey, big bro.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Rebecca the I won't say slat, but she leads with
her sexuality is Rebecca ass Smacker. Yeah, she has like
the Rachel from Friends gonea wrong, gonna rise Rachel from Friends.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That's it's did you know that the Rachel's back in?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah? You know who has it currently? Let me think
about it. Let me take you back and wait, give
me a hint. Okay, who has it currently?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So you wouldn't even know her. You wouldn't even know
her if you passed her on the street. But let
me take you back. Let me give you a hint. Okay,
childhood star him with her sister Ellen Show Big Deal,
Nick Rosie, Rosie Soia Grace and Rosie Rosie has the
ra currently. Yes, she's a pop star. So Fia Grace
(27:15):
is a mother, she's mothering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rosie is
still trying. They were so talented, so such an amazing voice.
I started listening to Rosie. We talked about this on
The Good Children. She has a new song called Headband
head Rush, fantastic. She has the Rachel and she looks
really good with it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Rebecca has the Rachel and it looks extreme.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, Rebecca was extreme. Was she the one that was
training the Playboy Bunny?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Hm?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
There was one that was like, I.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Smack the asses of my clients. She's like just hitting
their ass.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Well, that's the thing. A lot of the stuff in
this show would never fly today. She's also the one
I think, I don't know if it happens in this
episode of I also watched. I watched the first two.
It might happen in the second one, and I will
cover it extensively the next one if it does. But
she shows a dick pic to Jody Wattlee. That's so good,
that's so good. We need to normalize that was making
notes and I was like, oh, shows a dick pic
(28:12):
to Jody Wattley and I didn't even laugh. And then
I thought about it later and I was like, that
is a imagine writing the hot sheet in the field
the story producer in the reality show. Like, and then
she showed a dick pic to Jody Wattlee and like,
if you showed a dick pic to somebody nowadays without
their consent, you can in trouble.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I got in trouble for saying that on the radio
the other by Kenya Moore. She came after me. She like,
like the head week on Newsweek. The headline of news
was like Kenny Moore slams Andy's co host for talking
about dick pics. Yeah, because she showed, like she showed
a group of people got this poster this girl sucking
a dick or whatever, and I hadn't seen it. They
(28:52):
were just talking about it, and I'm like, oh, that's crazy,
that's a bad thing to do. And I was like,
someone was just telling me the other day that like,
showing dick pics without someone's permission is like a form
of sexual assault. I wasn't saying she needs to go
to jail for rape, but no, it was a conversation
that I had, Like, so you were on you were
on the front line saying it wasn't and then she
(29:13):
was like she was doing that. Yeah, I mean a
hundred Okay, what's the alternative to you, like, oh, sorry,
show everyone whatever dick you want without their per.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean, if I was to like, I don't know
if you're showing dickpics to people, not personal ones, but sometime,
but if someone's like, if someone sent me a dick
pic and I'm in the moment, and then I'm like
with a friend, I'm like, wait, do you want to
see this? If they say no, then I'm so fine.
But if they say yes, I'm like, just take a
quick peek. But yeah, consent to sexy.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Bringing back to workout, I was at Barry's the other
day and my train, my my trainer came up and
showed me a dick pic of somebody in the glass
right before. But I did It's crazy, I don't mind.
That's what Kenyans know. I showed me every dick. Yeah,
But I like, there's a lot of guys on Grinder
(30:02):
and stuff that, like, I always appreciate when someone says, hey,
can I can I send you something else?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And was like, go, that's such a sweet ass. Well yeah,
bombarded with holes. Now never lead this is this is good.
This is good for people to hear it. Never lead
with whole or dick. Have the have a minor conversation, right,
small conversation what brings you on? I know people don't
like that question. I know they don't, but sometimes you
need to hit them with the heavy, heavy hitter.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
What brings you on?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They say, it's always going to be two responses, pretty
open hbu that one's like, I know you're here for fun.
Then they'll go fun and friends maybe more. That's that's
the second option. Then you're like, oh, right, you want
to swap picks, but I always I always hit him
with our nudes. Okay, yeah, because that's so fine.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, And then like, what do you say about You
don't have to say what you're into? Yeah, what do
I say back? If somebody says into, I never want
I supposed to write a list. I'm an open book.
I mean, it just seems like such a like boring
things are right back, it was like there's not very
not a lot of romance to that.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
There's not a lot of romance to it, I will say.
People who say into, it's again most no top bottom
for sure, But then what I say, verse?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But I mean I wish I was Verse. It's the
it's literally like have you read Whole Talks? No, you
don't need it. I don't even know what that does.
It makes you, makes you hold a bottom better?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh then I need it. Well, actually I'm so fine
right now. But when you unlock Verse, it's it's like
when you're flipping.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I need to unlock. It's like circudy so light.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's like it's like I am I'm having I'm having
an amazing time at this person. Yeah, just going back
and forth. Anyways, So back to work.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I wanted to read. I wanted to read the dinner scene. Okay, together,
I want to re enact this as a lesbian drama.
Do you want the wig? You're gonna play me me?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I love the wig. We have to go get it. Sorry,
I got it. I got I don't know. I think
you're yeah, of course, Well if I was me me,
I would be I would wear the wig. We can
share this, right, we can we can act while looking Wow,
(32:20):
you look just like her? Wow, well you even look Brazilian?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Well?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Am I good? Because I was thinking about going bond.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I think you have to.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I did it last year and I'm fucking old.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, just to people were also telling me not to
shave my head, and I get that, like I want
to buzz just for like I feel like, yes, most
gay is when they're going through something, they'll buzz their
head and then they bleach it blonde. But like it's
either again that also is either you're going through something
or you're trying out being a pig bottom or I
had a transplant. Yeah, but like good for you for
having a transfer. Where do you get it done?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
San Jose, California?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Oh okay, you know who got it? The USA?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Okay, it doesn't need it a hair transplant. As Jackie Warner,
that hair is incredible. It's really good. She like that's
a cut.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It was kind of like it was kind of pixie
right right, but like a little bit different call butch.
But she was serving body like she was always in
like a slight crop and I was like just a
sports year for it. It was like very much during
that time. I don't know if you noticed this because
you were just ten years old. The girls in that
time were doing just the thongs were up to their necks,
(33:31):
the jeans were down by their knees and can see
the thongs were up here. That's making it come back too.
I bet it's making a comeback in the gay community.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
And bushback. I can tell you that. I bet Rosie
is sporting a thong. Rachel and a thong.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, Rachel and a poon for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's the name of her memoir. Rachel is so Rachel. Okay,
So we're entering our La restaurant. We've had a fight,
and this is like us making up and we're lesbians.
You're a Mimi, I'm Jackie. Okay, Well, how do you
play some music underneath this? Craig put some lesbian music underneath?
Howdy stranger? Hey, Hi, come over here. Oh you're sweet?
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Shut up?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Shut up? Hi baby? How are you? You look gorgeous?
You two crazy top?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, what are you upset about? You're always upset, So
it's hard for me what you're always upset. I'm not
always upset you are. I'm too busy to be upset anymore.
You're busy going to strip clubs. That's nice. As I
(34:44):
told you told you last night before, I was so
rudely hung up on that I went to that that
I literally stopped by that strip club. You know it's
not my thing.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Why would you go to a fucking strip club?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I didn't go a strip club. We were going to
eat right by the strip club, and we just dropped by.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Okay, well, you know what, tomorrow, I'm going to stop
buy a strip club.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Just to eat.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No, no, I didn't eat at the strip club. See,
now you're irritating me.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I didn't eat at the strip club. I had a
little sip.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Well it's not cool.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
You're not going to any more strip clubs, all right?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Is that the rule? Yeah, that's the rule. I don't
think that's going to be a hard rule to follow. Deal, deal,
want to shake on it, all right? Okay, so stop
being so irritable. Be sweeter. Okay, give me a kiss. Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I will forgive you if I can bite you really hard.
Not no, no, baby, now, then there's no forgiving.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I know, I know. I will forgive you if I
can bite you hard. That's the only way, if it'll
make you feel better. But don't leave a scar this time.
Oh okay, See that's gonna leave a mark, and then
I have to explain why I have bitemarks on my body.
It's not professional. Okay, now I forget you. I'm gonna
(36:13):
get you a chew toy. Oh we haven't had sex
in a week.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We are going to do a good one at a
sound off it. We haven't had sex in a week,
Yeah we did. When's the last time we had sex?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh, we're gonna have sex tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Ow you pitch my nipple?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Cong Wow, really good.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I honestly think we should be casting something.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
As lesbian lovers. Wow. I mean their relationship really makes
me upset because when I'm around a couple that's fighting. Well,
your hair looks so cute. Yeah. Sometimes its your natural
color too. Yeah natural.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
That's why I'm like scared to bleach, because like I
have never done anything to this hair. Wow, it's so
thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
You don't need a transplant.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Now, I'm your dad bald, no one, your mom's no one.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You're fine. I'm so fine. You have that thick Italian
that's what they call me.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's actually my grinder dame is it?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
No? Is it t h I see c or thick Italian? Well,
that's probably what is your grinder name.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It's just a like I'm not giving you my name
right off the bat. I'm not like I have face.
I have everything on there.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I have a face too. Yeah, Like I'm do you
ever see me on there?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I never, I've never seen you. I wonder sometimes like
if people block me if they know me? But like
I'm chilling, like I'm respectful of everybody. What's strange I
wouldn't block you on Grinder is when your face is there.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I know you.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I've been in multiple situations with you, We've chatted. We're
never like flirting in real life. Suddenly it's like you
want to send hole. It's I'm like, it's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Does that make sense? It's weird.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Let's learn to have conversations again.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
What do you predict is going to happen in season
one of because I don't really know the plot. I
know the basic Wikipedia, but like I'm going this, I'm
going on the journey of this show. Yes, And like
I was a reality producer in two thousand and six
on Other Reality was I can I ask? I read
my whole resume out on my little intro so many
Tori and Dean in Love Project Romway Top show Griff
(38:20):
in My Life on the d List. Okay, Dance Your
Ass Off, which is a weight loss show and a
dance competition. Good that show. I've never seen it. Dance
your Ass Off. Mesa and Walter from Abbott Elementary created it.
She was the head judge.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You're a kidding and.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's the funniest show. It's it's overweight people and it's
like my biggest It's it's like because Dancing with the Stars.
Each week they dance and then they weigh them and
then like you're whoever loses the most Dance your ass Off.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I kind of feel like that needs to be brought
back in different with a different spin. But I think
there's something really good to that.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I need to watch it. Dance your tits off and
it's trans.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I actually love Okay, what were you asking? Yeah, she's
so prediction. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
I mean like, I'm just going on the journey and
I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'm here for it. Brian's gonna be a problem. He's
gonna be that's the name they've established that they've set
it up. Of course they set it up. There's that
I don't know anything about the new coach. That just
they just brought in, Oh, Jesse, Jesse. Seems like there's
gonna be beef between Jesse and someone.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Jesse's gay. Jesse's gay, so so Doug Jesse gay? Which
Andre is another trainer. We don't see enough Andre in
this first episode. Also Zen the trainers Zen, Yeah one line?
Now she ruins me a missus Swan from Matt TV.
I yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Do you think that they just gave her one line
because like she didn't she wasn't killing it on the
first episode. Character, Yeah, sometimes that happens. Sometimes they like
leave the heavy hitters to the Towards the end.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Jesse becomes a big character. Yeah, because he was again
like I was living in la and all these people
were very much like in the Ether, and people were
talking about them so much. This was a big show,
like maybe just for people.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Who are they still Are any of them still doing it?
And by doing it, I mean slaying slaying And by
that I also mean are they on the internet like
and like crushing the Internet?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Okay, well listen, I only know Jackie who is still
on the Internet and she's also coaching people on FaceTime
and making money.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, oh my god, she has longevity to her career.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, let's separate the internet from actual impact. She clearly
has had impact.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, I mean it's the star of this show. And
like I don't Doug obviously rip ye may he rest.
I have a feeling Rebecca's probably on the internet.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I'm gonna need to check out what Rebecca is doing.
She's probably she still has the Jennifer Yeah, she's definitely
a fun mom. Like she's fun. You think she's mothered definitely, Yeah, Yeah,
she's mothered.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I could see her also in Long Island.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
She was giving she was reading Long Island down. Yeah,
for sure, I can see her. Yeah, I'm from massive Pequa.
I feel like she's she can be a massive Pequa mom.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I could see her like having started some sort of
Tracy Anderson method bullshito, like a this is this is
the problem.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Though, I'm gonna say with workout and with yees, I know,
and there and no shade and no disrespect to anybody
on the show, including Jackie, okay, because I know she's
coming on the show and as a person who we
loved this and we love her and she was like amazing.
Unless she's done really horrible things and on outside. Okay, sure,
I'm just being PC.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, there's a problem with fitness, the fitness and indugery
in general. I think that's why I'm in fitness is
to like kind of like strip back some of the
layers of the toxicity and like the conversation around consumption
of food.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, this show is right in the middle of when
we had bad messaging.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
We had a horrible messaging and it was giving and
I was I was recently on missus Horner's page and
going through some of the videos and some of the reels,
and there was a reel of her getting slack for
telling people if they wanted to lose ten pounds in
ten days. She was like she was giving them advice
on how to do it, and why would you need
(42:20):
to lose why would you need to do that? Like
get the get the stomach virus, you know what I mean?
And then you're literally set.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
That did used to be a thing though, what people
would use to days.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, No, she was like, just you all you need
to do is eat a thousand calories. It's just but
she was like defending it to her core, and I
I am just somebody who it's like let's especially in fitness,
you set smart goals right right, something that you can measure,
something that's achievable, something that's realistic, that's not realistic.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I was on TikTok Live not too long ago, course,
and of course I will never do it again. Really,
was that your first time? I did it for like
three months, like off and on. I made ninety five dollars.
It was fun. But like people who are on there
are doing it all day every day. Yeah, and they're
making so much money. I know, and like if you
if I put all my time in, I was like,
(43:11):
why am I making this? I can't be spending my
last days on earth as like a forty seven year
old man on TikTok Live. What were you doing on
TikTok Live? Just chatting? I like answer the questions that
come in. So a lot of people who listen to
the show. And somebody said something like about they lost
weight or they want to be skinny, and I said, like,
(43:31):
let's forget the word skinny, yeah, like that's an antiquated word.
You want to be strong, you want to be healthy,
be vibrant. Yeah, And I was like trying to encourage
this person and everyone's going back and forth. They're like, yeah,
that's like old school and like let's try to be helped.
That was like whatever, Yeah, and they banned me because
they were like, you're talking about ed like disorders, like
(43:52):
the algorithm heard me just talking about because I even
shared it. I was like I had like food disorders
and things like that, and like it heard that and
like clocked me. Yeah, I gotta warning.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
TikTok is like we post videos to TikTok all the
time and it's like, actually we're getting censored. And it's
weird because I'm like we're actually doing the opposite and
we're talking about our ed or experiences. I don't know
people people like TikTok. I feel like people come for
you for no reason. The industry and for people they Instagram,
(44:23):
I think a little bit more, Yeah, what's happening there?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I don't know now, I don't get It took me
a few months to people.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
People ever mean to you, People aren't mean to me.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
It tends to be.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's a sweet persona though it the only meanness I've
ever gotten was like from other gays.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
It tends to be that way.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
It's like and I can I'm somebody who can like
understand where when I see jealousy and when I feel it,
and that's where it comes from. But yeah, it would
just be comments on my voice, like like your voice
is insufferable. This is what happens when you let the
boat tox is seeping into their brains. The filler that
ever get both I recently did so that that that
(45:04):
was for the first time, for the first time. Oh
my god, so this was these were allegations before you
did it happen. I didn't need it, but like fuck it,
like you know what transplant, I got it exactly. And
this is the thing about the internet. When you put
yourself out on the internet, people will always make comments
about what you should do. Right, girl, read a book
right and close your phone, because I'm going to do
what makes me happy, and you do what makes you happy.
(45:26):
And that's what working out is. Also, it's like when
you set those goals for yourself, if it makes you happy,
that's what you're going towards. But you're going to drive
yourself crazy if you have horrible goals for yourself.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Workout is like a great example of what things used
to be like in so many different ways. Uh In
the workplace, the things you could say to other people,
hold for sirens, hold for horns. I love New York
City me too. I love the sounds and that, like
the fitness industry, Like looking back, imagine, I can't imagine
(45:57):
going to a gym and paying all of that money.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
She said four hundred dollars a session.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
To go.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Four hundred dollars a session. There's bill in there, unlike anything.
And just to put it into the context, it's like
normal personal trainers, at least in New York City, which
is like the highest rates. I would say normal one
hundred and seventy dollars a session, right, you can push
two hundred if you're like you got a good clientele,
four four hundred.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
See. I think it was maybe overblown for the show.
I think they I think this is the back of
the beginning of the Bravos like entrance into where aspirational
we show off money. You can't attain this clickbaity in
very late everything like oh my god, can you believe
how much money?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Does?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
I doubt everyone was paying four hundred dollars. Maybe they were.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
They were good for you, Jackie, and like if you
were paying four hundred dollars call me. Yeah, like if
you have that much money to dish out and I
want to see those results. Yeah, I want to see
the results. And it's like, yeah, are you single? Sugar
talking about sugar daddies, sugar holes, Sugar.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Well, thank you for coming on the show. We're speaking of.
We're gonna go eat our faces off, We're gonna have
steak freeds.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm about to have stak freeds in a French onion
soup and like maybe I'm lacous in tolerant, but you
don't have to know what's going They have a.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Toy letter watch what Happens Life? Well, okay, I love you.
Thank you for Andrew Muscarella, Good Children Children Podcast.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
You can find me on Socials at Andrew Muscarella TikTok
because my manager wants me to tell you this Andrew
at Andrew Underscore, Muski and at Good Children Pod across
all socials.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Thank you for me my first guest on show. So
much Fun. Oh my god, you made my day. I
don't know if any of it recorded, but if it did,
I bet it's great. Girl, we did it. Thank you
so much for joining, Thank you for listening, for watching.
Thank you for subscribing to the YouTube of Show Pony,
and don't forget to join the Patreon. There's gonna be
a lot of bonus content up there. I'm really excited
(47:51):
about this season. I it has been a weird challenge
to do a solo pod in the kitchenette of a
home that isn't even mine that I'm subletting in New
York City, even though I've been on the radio for
ten years broadcasting and to who knows whose ears, it
was a little bit of a different muscle to figure
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(48:12):
I love it, so thank you for being here. Join
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So join the patreon, and the more people that subscribe,
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and don't forget to work out what would Jackie do?
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