September 18, 2024 • 31 mins
Get a front-row seat to Carolina Panthers football with Sideline Pass! Hosted by team reporters Kristen Balboni and Sharon Thorsland, this show takes you right into the heart of the action with exclusive insights, behind-the-scenes stories, and the latest buzz from Bank of America Stadium. This week Kristen and Sharon are joined by Eugene Robinson and Josey Jewell to discuss the Bryce Young news, look ahead to this weekend's opponent, talk about life off the football field, and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow Jeers, Kristen Balboni and Sharon thors love it with
your Sideline Pass.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to Sideline Pass, where we give you the inside
scoop on all things Panthers. I'm Kristin Balboni and I'm
here with my fellow Sideline reporter Sharon Thorslan. Sharon, we
got a lot to talk about this week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, here we go again, right, and it's been another
eventful week here around Bank of America Stadium. So I'm
going into week three. We've got we've got lots going on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, and certainly, as all Panthers fans know by now,
anyone listening to this podcast, unless you've been under a rock,
maybe Andy Dalton will be starting this week when the
Panthers head to Las Vegas to face the Raiders. And Sharon,
you know, I'll just start out. I talked to Dave
Canalis earlier this week and I asked him about this decision,
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and he said, of course, it was incredibly tough, right
as you would expect, he said, but I owed it
to the team to do a fair evaluation. And ultimately
that evaluation was that Andy Dalton should start and Bryce
Young should sit.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, and when you look at it just from an unbiased,
you know picture. I mean, the first two weeks of
the season, this offense was stagnant. They were not able
to really get anything going. And you know, certainly not
all Bryce Young's fault, but as it often does it
if you know, the quarterback takes the brunch of the
criticism or the most of the praise when things go well.
So Bryce just was not able to get this offense
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to respond. And going with the guy who you know
has been there, done that, Andy Dalton has done it
for so many seasons in this league. I did very
well for this team a year ago when he came
in and started in Seattle, and they threw for like
I think the most years they threw all season.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
With three hundred something.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And so he did a great job moving the office.
And also he's a he's a veteran leader on this
team and has been in this league for a long time.
So he knows how to push guys buttons, he knows
how to get guys to respond. He he's just to
sort of a rock out there on the field and
on the sidelines for guys. So I think this is
going to be a really good move to see what
he can do with this offense headed into a Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, and that's what I asked Canalis about. I said,
what about his skill set? You know, works with the
offense that you want to run and we really haven't
seen that offense, right, because they've been down early. You'd
like to run the ball a lot more and certantly
be able to take some shots downfield. And he said
the same thing and also the same thing that you
just did, Sharon, which is his resume speaks for itself, right,
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and we're going to have experience in there, and also
a guy that knows what's coming and isn't afraid of that.
So in something you said, Sharon about him being a
leader on this team, as both of us have seen,
and if you're listening to the radio broadcast, maybe you
can't see it as much, but he and Bryce Young
are in lockstep during these games and certainly in practices
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as well. And you can tell that Bryce, and I'm
sure he said it as well, gets a lot out
of having Andy there, and you know they can bounce
ideas off of each other. They can look at the
Microsoft surfaces where they look at plays and so will
you be looking this week when you head on the
road to Las Vegas, are you going to be looking
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at how Bryce is, you know, working with Andy Dalton
and certainly what Andy is doing right?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Absolutely, And that's one thing I did noticed last year
in Seattle was that Bryce was was sort of the
opposite of what he normally was, or he had the
headset on and he was just on Andy's shoulder. Every
time Andy would come off the field, he'd go right
over to him. They would do exactly what you said,
go over the tablets together, look at the plays, dissect things,
tell each other what they saw. So it's just sort
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of a role reversal in that respect, And I would
assume that we'll see that again because that's something that's
been Bryce has said it's been invaluable to him to
have a guy like Andy Dalton there for him so
he can bounce ideas off of him, so we can say,
all right, what did you see that I didn't see?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
How would you react to the situation? That kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So I think that Bryce is going to continue to
be able to pick Andy's brain like that and actually
see it in action, which I think is going to
be really good for Bryce. I mean a lot of guys.
I mean, we all know how the NFL works. Right now.
You're a high draft pick, you're one, two, three, four, five,
whatever it may be. You're expected to come in and
start right away and save a franchise. And generally, if
you are picking one, two, three, your franchise has been struggling.
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So it's a tough situation for any guy to come into.
And so I think being able to have the opportunity
to learn for however long that may be, being able
to watch a guy who's been there, done that at
a high level for a long time is going to
do nothing but help Bryce Young.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I know it's a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I'm sure it's a tough decision, as coach Canal has said,
but I think it's going to benefit Bryce in the
long run, and so I expect him to be right
there with Andy the entire game once again on Sunday,
watching and learning.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think that's such a great point. Absolutely, And you know,
speaking to Canalis in the past, he said, I think
this was after Game one, and he said, with Bryce,
it's I want him to get his confidence up. He said,
it's non experience thing. He said, it's it's a confidence thing,
and so I agree with you. While I'm sure it
is very tough for Bryce to hear, hey, we're going
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to go with Andy this week, it might be a
confidence reset, as you said, Sharon.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know when you suffer through a
season like he did a year ago, that that confidence
can be dinged, no doubt about it. I mean, it
was a It was a tough situation for everybody on
this football team, not just Bryce in the offense, but
particularly for him because he is, you know, the face
of the franchise, the rookie, the guy that everybody's looking
at at quarterback, and so it was tough for him
last year. And I'm sure subconsciously maybe some of those
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things are hard to forget you Maybe you're you're thinking that, Okay,
I've moved past this year two. But then you get
out there and they feel and go, oh my gosh, are
they coming at me again like they did last year
or kind of thing. So who knows, but the confidence
definitely needs to get rebuilt, and I think that doing
something like this only help him.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I agree. One guy that I'm sure you'll be keeping
an eye on, and I wanted to as we share
our sideline notes. One thing I found really interesting on
the sideline Cuba Hubbard. You know, you get your typical leaders,
your Adam feelens, your shacks, but Chuba came off of
it and what was a very difficult game obviously for
that entire offense. I think he was averaging six yards
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of carry but only sixty two yards in an offense
that couldn't quite get going. But he came off the
field he, you know, good or bad, was really urging
his teammates. You know, hey, there's still plenty of time left,
like let's go, let's get the energy up and Sharon,
it's very interesting to see him start to assume that
leadership role. And you know it's someone on the opposite
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side of the field, but we started to see it
with Derek Brown. You know, they don't have the sea
like before he had the sea on his chest. And
I don't know if Juba will be a captain eventually,
but you start to see these guys that came into
this league as young guys. Certainly he sat behind Christian
mccaffe learned from him to see them become leaders and
I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and I saw Cuba start to do that
last season. He's like you said, he's a guy, and
he certainly did it in Game one down there in
New Orleans, and I expect to see that again this
weekend and moving forward. He you know, he doesn't talk
a lot when you're like in the locker room stuff.
He's not always the most chit chatty guy with the
media or anything like that, but he is out there
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always with his teammates talking and yeah, you see him
come off the field and he'll go down specifically, he
goes down to the offensive line a lot, thanks them
for what they're doing, you know, like you said, gives
them the you know, the high fives, and say, come on, guys,
let's get go, and we've got a lot of game left.
He was doing that in New Orleans. He's like we
you know, this is going into halftime. It's like it,
let's hit the reset button. We got a whole second
half to go here. So he's definitely a guy who's
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become more vocal. He'll even go down to the defensive
side as well and give them some words of encouragement.
So I think it's great to have a guy like
that step up when who certainly they can look at
and respect because of what he does on the field
and in his preparation. I mean he still sits out
there every single game in the pregame for like thirty
minutes catching balls from the Dugs Machine. He does that
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every day after practice with Tommy Trumble. They're trying to
bat him down around him, so he puts in the work.
He puts in that extra preparation day in and day out,
so he you know, he lives up to what he's preaching.
He's not just yelling shallow things out there. I mean,
he lives how he talks, and he practices that way,
he plays that way, and so I think guys really
respect that and then really respond to his words on
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the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I completely agree, And yes, I love that you said
the Jugs machine. So that's one of the insights that
we can give to fans. And maybe you've seen it,
if you've been at a game. You're right, you can't
think of Cheube Hubbard without thinking of the Dugs Machine.
Exactly what he does all the time, you know, before games,
like you said, after practice, he's extended his practice time
by a good what two hours a week doing the
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Dugs machine. And another thing Sharon that I think has
come along with this confidence is to see the work
that he is done on his body. I remember when
he got drafted, he's, you know, a slighter guy, a
smaller guy, and now each year I see him come
in and he's bulked up more and more, which of
course we know you need to play running back in
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the NFL. So just another way that I've been impressed
with him. I think all around, like we've said, he's
impressive his leadership, the way he runs the ball, the
way he prepares, and then also the work he has
done to really be the main back for a team
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Absolutely, and he's really I think relishing in this challenge.
I mean, he earned that starting role a year ago,
has kept it now this season, Like you said, the
run game has not really gotten going very well yet
because of the situations and games that we've been facing
so far. But I expect to see him hopefully get
out there and really run the heck out of it
this weekend because this Raiders defense struggling to stop the run.
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They're ranking twenty ninth in the league, so this could
be a big day for Chewba and as.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We know, that is what Dave Canalis wants to do
with this offense. That's what he came in doing. Hasn't
had a chance to do that because they've been down early,
forced to pass and you know, tough getting things going.
So we'll see if they can make that happen. Let's
talk about the defense a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Of course we watched to see the guys in rotation
with Derek Brown being out. I thought they did pretty well,
you know, especially on short notice. The other thing I
want to see this week, Sharon, and I'm sure you
do too, is the Raiders have Brock Bowers and they
have DeVante Adams, and those guys went for like over
two hundred yards combined in this in this last game.
(10:32):
I was talking to Thomas Davis earlier this week and
he said something like brock Bowers has been targeted seventeen
times in the first two games and he's caught fifteen passes,
so that it's a tall task for this defense. I'm
sure you're going to be watching how that all goes.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And this kid, I mean he's a rookie, you know,
rookie coming in here and doing that kind of stuff
is not not easy to do. He's, you know, a
big guy six to six, I think so, and he's
very quickly become Gardner Minshew's face target or one of them.
And we all know what DeVante Adams can do. My goodness,
I mean, he's just been in for a long time.
All proves I think, six time pro bowler. And you
do have d Kobe Myers out there still too, so
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you can't exactly forget about him former NC State wolfpacker
of course. So yeah, I mean these guys, the secondary
in particular, are going to have their hands full with
these guys and brock Bowers that's going to be a
guy that you want to see them target early on
to try to slow him down, take him out of
the game.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He is a rookie. He can make some rookie mistakes.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We haven't seen a whole lot of them yet with
like you said, catching fifteen out of seventeen targets is amazing.
So they've got their work cutout for them. This defense does.
But I think they will rise to the challenge. And
they certainly played better last week against the Chargers and
they did in Week one against the Saints, so hopefully
we'll continue to see that improvement each week.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, Sharon, it's always great to exchange notes with you.
Safe travels out to Las Vegas. I hope it's a
great time, and I hope we are talking about a
win next week.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Sounds like a plan. Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
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Speaker 2 (12:13):
All right, I'm joined now by longtime NFL safety and
one of the voices of the Carolina Panthers, Eugene Robinson.
What is up, my friend?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Oh Bony, I am doing wonderful. How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I am great. It's always one of my favorite things
when I hear you yell Bone. It's not game day,
it's not game day. It's not game day unless I
know that. So let's talk about this team. You know,
we talked after last week's game where the Panthers went
to oh and two, and I want to specifically ask
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you because you are someone that always brings the energy.
Of course, as all the fans know, how do you
if you're in that locker room right now with the
oh and two and then you have a quarterback change,
how do you bring the energy?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Well, ain't one thing what coach Canalys has been already.
The fact that he benched Bryce Young already set the
message because don't forget at every position, if you're not
playing well, you can you can be benched. And so
the quarterback position is no different, and here it is.
I think I think at some point too, that Bryce
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is gonna welcome the fact that Okay, put Andy Dalton
in and let him do a thing while I can
go ahead and learn. And the other thing that I
think that coach Canalys has done is he hasn't lost
the team because the fact that he would do that
to the quarterback means that he's treating everybody the exact same.
So there's the energy because now you don't set Bryce
Young up as being separate from the team. He's a
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part of the team. So I think the energy is
already there.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I think the fact that Andy Dalton's gonna bring a
very different energy because he's already played in the pros,
he's already had success, he knows the sport, He knows
all the nuances that Bryce is just getting ready to.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's a that's a great point. I was talking to
Dave Canallis earlier this week. I said, how does Andy's
skill set match what you want to do on offense
because we haven't gotten to see what Dave Canalis wants
to do on offense for the Panthers because they've been
down early. And he said, he said, the same thing
you do. He said, Look, his resume speaks for himself.
So Eugene, what I mean. Andy's been in this league
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for a long time as a former pro bowler. What
can we expect from him?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I think what you get what Andy Dalton is you're
gonna get a quarterback that's gonna know where to go
with the ball, and I think you're gonna have coach
Canalis to trust him to throw the ball downfield. That's
something that was sorely missing. We were throwing the ball
laterally with Bryce Young. You can't win games that way
in the West Coast office, yes you can, but as
a different zipper selection of the plays here, it is
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throwing the ball downfield. Deeper down the field. You're gonna
challenge the cornerbacks and you're gonna challenge the safeties and
you're gonna put them on notice that we're gonna go
ahead and threaten you downfield. No one wants to be
threatened downfield. Andy Dalton's gonna be able to do that,
and I think coach Canalis will give him the freedom
to go ahead and threaten them downfield. Also, the blessing
he's not gonna be worried about when you're blitzing me
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from the left right up the middle. You know what
the hot route is immediately. So some of the things
that Bryce Young is learning, you don't have to worry
about Andy Dalton because guess what, he's seen it all
and too.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
If they can get the running game going, then that
gives your defense a little bit of a break, right Eugene.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Absolutely, Tuba Hubbard had Tuba Hubbard had sixty four yards
on ten carries, I think you got to go ride him.
I think you've got to go ahead him and give
him twenty carries. Is really predicated on the quarterback success
of how well you can run the rock, and Tuba
can run the rock, and I think that he wants
to be that guy. The offensive line I thought did
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a great job of blocking offensively on the run, and
I would expect that what coach is gonna do is
have much more of a six run to pass ratio.
And if you can get to that pass racial sixty
to forty run to pass ratio, your pass has become
that much more important because now you stress people down
the field because they have to stop the run on
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eight man fronts.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Gene, I have a question for you, and I know
it's more nuanced than what I'm gonna ask you, but
do you think we start quarterbacks too early in this league,
like the high profile rookies the number one picks.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yes, absolutely, Bony, Yes, we do. You know, you know
there is an education process that happens on the bench.
That's okay. Let's look at Aaron Rodgers and Brett Barr.
Look at Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love. All right, it's
okay to sit on the bench and learn. That's not
a sin. And the more that you can learn and
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be prepared at this level and at the college level,
the better you are. I mean, C J. Stroud, that's
an anomaly. Everybody doesn't come in Peyton Manning. We can
look at Peyton Manning, we can look at John l
when they came in that first year starting. Guess what,
they had terrible seasons, terrible all right, they worked themselves out,
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they became the best quarterback. I get it. But I
think there's some education that we miss by sitting on
the bench. And I think as a quarterback position, you're
gonna have to start right away. You can just go
ahead and learn in the comfort of somebody like an
Andy Dalton. Why they hand over the rings to you?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, I think what if Pete Manning set the lead
record for interceptions in his first year. Well, luckily he
bounced back from that, but what a season that was.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yes, he did. And like I said, there's no sin
in sitting the bench. It's okay. And you got the
quarterback spot, all right, if you hold the clipboard, it's
all right to hold the clipboard, said, so that you
can learn and so and that way your confidence doesn't
wane when you good in the game and you have
some miss ups. Right, here's what I'm worried about Bryce.
I'm worried about his confidence, love definite. I'm worried about
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will he be able to else back confidence? Because I
saw his face and his face told me that man
I can't believe I'm playing this way, and then you
think that's the truth, and that's not the truth. He's
the accomplished quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's exactly what Dave Canalis said. He said, I'm not
worried about his experience. He said, I've told him he
has got and this was granted, this was going into
the last week's game, so I don't know what he
has said to him since then. I just want to
be clear about that. But going into last week's game,
he said, you know, it is about the confidence. He said,
I'm not worried about the experience because he's seen pretty
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much like there's not going to be that much new
that he hasn't seen. He's a very accomplished quarterback. I
reminded him of all he's done in college and high school,
the level that he can play out. It's just being
comfortable and maybe sitting for a little while will help
him with that confidence.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And Bonnie, that's another thing I would add to that
is that Coach Canalis show him film of how well
he's played in college and games he's played well, so
he could remind himself that, oh, I'm not as bad
as I think I am. Because he's not.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
All right, Eugene. Of course, I got to ask you
about the defense. They took some steps forward after that
very very tough game to start the season where they
lost forty seven to ten. But but what what did
you think of them overall in this last game?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
They took steps backwards. I thought that I thought they
got pushed around. If I'm being honest, I mean they
had over two hundred something yards rushing the ball. Yeah,
Dobbins had like one hundred and sixty plus yard or
somewhere on there. I mean on one thirty five. But
he looked like he looked like, you know, walk the
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payton somebody out there. And so that standpoint. I know
that they run a system. I know that Derek Brown
is out out a bit, and I get it. But
I thought they took a step backwards. I thought they
lost too many yards yards on the ground running. And
that's the recipe for disaster, because if you could run
the ball, you could pass the ball, and it's hard
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to stop people and you can't get off the field.
It's hard to get off the field on third down
because the team can get five yards a clip, four
yards a clip, six yards a clip. Oh, they got
a first out five yards a clip four yards clip? Oh,
they got a first out, and you find on, uh,
your big guys are gonna get tired, So we have
to stop the run and do a better job of
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stopping to run. And if we don't stop the run,
you're gonna see repeatformances of man of having guys tired
out there can't get off the field in long drives.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yep, And you're right there. There are some third and
short situations where you think they'd be able to stop it,
and then they go ahead and give it up, and
then that's a whole other set of downs. How do
you how do you stop the run?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, so they did a bad job at that this week?
Is that watching film? Is it extra practice? How?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Because obviously everyone in that locker room is a professional.
So how do you make the switch? This week?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
So it's control one, gap control two. And the fact
that when you get into an eight man front when
you're gonna have an opportunity because eight men front typically
stops the run, and you're gonna have an opportunity to
make the tackle. You gotta make the tackle. You can't
go oh, I'll get the tackle next time, Oh, I
get sold one is eight man front. Get eight guys
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at the line of scrimmats, dare them to go to
run the ball, all right, and then as control, make
sure if you have a gap or you have the edge,
make sure that nobody gets outside of your edge. We
lost our age control and our gap control. And then
if you're gonna get double team, will say, well, the
deepest of tackles, get double team. Your linebackers gotta be stellar.
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They gotta be stellar. They gotta be Loop Peakley like
Thomas Davids, like flying side to side making those tackles,
because those are gonna be the free guys, the free
hitters to make that tackle on their running back.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
All right, we've talked about what to do to stop
the run game. How do you stop a guy like
Devonte Ams. It's a podcast.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
You can't I imagine gonna say I got Dbonte, I
got Dabat, Yes you have Dabat. He is outstanding, outstanding receiver.
I'm looking for that matchup. But if I'm them, I'm
gonna double team him with that safety over the top
and make somebody else beat me. I'm not gonna have
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Debt beat me. I'm gonna have somebody else beat me,
so I'm gonna double beat me.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's great, great advice, Eugene. We are gonna be looking
to see what this what this new Panthers offense looks like,
and if this Panthers d can can take a step forward,
like you said, instead of taking a step back. You
got me right there. We're gonna see if they can
take a step forward in this game when they go
out to Vegas to match up against the Raiders. Thank
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you so much. It is always such a pleasure talking
to you. I feed off your energy. Anyone who's listening
does the same. This was awesome. Thank you, Bony.
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Speaker 2 (23:24):
Okay, I am so excited to talk to linebacker Josie Jewel. Josie,
thank you so much for giving us a few minutes.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Okay, So, as a sideline reporter, you know, I notice
things right. And one thing that I have noticed, which
I'm sure everyone else has too, but I wanted to
ask you about, is your relationship with Shaq Thompson. You
guys seem like almost like like can join twins on
the sideline sometimes, which is great, right, That's what you
want your linebackers to do. Is there a friendship there.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, there's a really good friendship there.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Ever, since day one getting here, it's been awesome, you know,
a new facility for me, new people, new organization. I've
been at one for six and now coming to a
totally different one. Didn't know what to expect, and a
guy to help me around and show me the ropes.
A great leader and a communicator on the field and
off the field. So it's been fun hanging out with
him on and off the field, then our off time
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a little bit, uh and just kind of staying close
to him, you know, during the workday and trying to
take as much knowledge as possible from a guy like him.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Wait, what do you guys do in your in your
off time?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
We've gone out out and eaten a couple of times.
We got to get him out maybe to asle one
of these times get him. He said he did want
to come, So we're going to do that.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
We were going to do another little hunt too with
all the linebackers after ot ended up falling through with
everybody's schedule.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
So it's it's a tight knit group. A lot of
good guys in that group.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, you said the farm. Tell me
about the farm in Iowa.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yeah, so I grew up on about a twelve hundred
acre farm that has cattle and turkeys and a bunch
of crops. And then now I own about sixty acres
of my own and do my own stuff, just small stuff.
My parents still run there is with my brother. So
maybe show them a little bit of that stuff. Maybe
get a bunch of linebackers out there and shoot some
guns and have a little fun and go after that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, and they'd be good help, right if your parents
need some help, Like those guys can certainly lift some
stuff and all of that. Now. Okay, this might be
a silly question, but if you're getting around on twelve
hundred acres, are you on ATVs? Are you on horseback?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
What do you do?
Speaker 7 (25:27):
It changed probably growing up up until I was about
thirteen fourteen, probably fifteen, honestly, we ride a bunch of
horses and stuff like that. And then after that and
probably twelve the end of my high school career, I
was probably driving a little more motorcycle and stuff like that.
Because you got a check fence, you got to chase
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cattle around, move them to different pastures. So it was
a combination of horses, but more horses than anything early
in my childhood, which was awesome because we had we
had about six horses and then two aft horses at
the time. They could pull like a big sleigh or
like just a wagon and we'd all sitting there and.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
It'd be cool.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
But definitely definitely interesting how the farm kind of grew
as we got older.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, yeah, can you get those linebackers on horses? I
would pay to see that if we can live stream it.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
We only got a couple now, but we could definitely try.
We have some smaller ones. They might break their backs.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
So oh gosh, yeah, no ponies right, No, many horses.
We don't want that. So do you ride motorcycles now
or is that a thing of the past now that
you have a family and you obviously your career, you
don't want to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
No.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
I still I still drive motorcycles and stuff like that.
Nothing crazy, just like in Darrows and sports ones. Nothing
like I need a Harley. But that'll probably be down
the road.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Maybe that'll be.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
A couple three or four years, maybe five when I'm done,
so that'll be something to enjoy. Wash is a big
motorcycle guy here. Some have to take some information from him.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh good to know. I did not know that Wash
was a big motorcycle guy. I have to ask him
about that. So one thing that you and Shack have
in common as that your dad's to little kids. I
have gotten information. I have two little ones too. I've
gotten advice from Shack on on his kid. You know,
he's got three they're getting it was seven to five
and three, I think, And I've got a two year
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old and a baby. So I've gone to him and
I've been like, Okay, what do you do about this?
What is it? Like being a parent of young little
kids and being in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Oh yeah, it's fun and it's nice to share that
similarity between both of us. Honestly, we can talk about
that stuff if we're not talking about football.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
We're talking about our families.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
And maybe they're being little craps at the time, or
maybe they're enjoying our time with them. Most of the
majority is enjoying our time and just how funny they
are as they grow up. Minor two and four right now,
so definitely funny times, they're hilarious. But yeah, it's nice
to be able connect on that.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Letvel too.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, my two year old says the craziest stuff, like
he just has gotten into playing the guitar, and it's
I mean, you can't understand any of it, but it
is so cute to watch, Oh my gosh, and just
like seeing their vote, yeah, seeing their vocabulary blossom and
all of that. It's it is amazing. What is it like?
It's something I'd like to ask football players. You know,
we see the contracts get signed or a guy gets
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drafted or whatever, and we don't think about the reality
behind moving across the country. What was it like deciding
to move your family across the country and like who
you know you got to deal with like Wi Fi
setups and and all that stuff, you know, packing up
and moving. So what goes into that decision.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's a lot of it's a
lot of family stuff for sure. I mean we had
a lot of help, honestly, whether it be my family
or my wife's family helping us move. I'm kind of
a cheaper guy when it comes to that. And then
I didn't want to hire a moving company, so we
ended up doing most of it ourselves. We had a
couple hired hands to like move the stuff into.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
A U haul and yeah, family friends and my mom,
my dad, and my brother in.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Law drove it from Colorado to Iowa, and then a
family friend drove it from Iowa to Carolina. So and
then a bunch of people helped me move it out
and take it out and stuff like that from the
Colorado house and bring stuff back to Iowa. And he
puts a couple of things there and move a couple
of things from Iowa down to here, Carolina. So it
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was definitely a process. Yeah, I don't know how people
do it after a year. Yeah, that one is good
enough for me.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Honestly, they probably hire moving companies to be honest, there's
not too cheap, like me, did you I mean, did
you get your parents and anything for doing that? Like
I mean usually we give someone a pizza right for
helping them move you, but they're driving across the country.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah, I gave them three and a half pizzas for
right now, got their anti. I give them a little
bit of something.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Those prizes here soon. So yeah, I mean you definitely
have to you definitely have to help them out. I
mean it is a family thing, so you know, families
do a lot of things for free, but definitely help
them out in any way. And yeah, you got to
give them some sort of money or some sort of value.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, I mean my mom and I have a great relationship,
but I don't know if she's driving my stuff across
the country. True story though, my husband and I we
moved from LA to Chicago and he drove our U
haul across the country. But the condition was that I
couldn't ride with him. He was like, look, we've been
together a long time. I know, like I'm a I'm
a backseat driver. And he was like, I will do
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this on my own like we cannot and like we
know our lanes like that. I was like, yeah, sure,
that's fine, I'll fly on a plane. So relationship to
you exactly, like we know that's not for us. I
do want to. So I looked at your Instagram talking
about your kids. I saw that your daughter got to
meet Caitlyn Clark and you went to Iowa. And what
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was that like for her to be able to see
to meet Kaitlyn Clark, who's such an iconic figure in
women's basketball.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Now, it was awesome.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean we we probably watched three or four
games before we ever took her to one, and I
think we went to one just with me and my
wife before we brought her, So we got her hyped up,
and I mean it didn't take much to get her
hype out. Kaitlin was such a polarizing player and a
great player. But then we finally went to the game
and and we had some communication with Caitlin and it
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was great just to be able to have that interaction
and see my daughter's face light up. So it was
it was really cool a great person to to meet,
phenomenal person. I mean, you talk about people that are
that high stature and that big in the social media
and in sports. Usually maybe they're not the nicest sometimes,
or maybe they think they're arrogant or whatever, but she
was a phenomenal person.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
She's like your daughter's like, dad, you're cool, But this
is Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Now.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Yeah, when she sees the pictures later, she'll she'll enjoy
even more.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm sure that's awesome. Well, Josie, thank you so much
for the time. This was great and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Awesome, no problem, good talking to you, and.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Thank you all for listening to the Sideline Past podcast.
We will be back next week.
Wow Jeers, Kristen Balboni and Sharon thors love it with
your Sideline Pass.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to Sideline Pass, where we give you the inside
scoop on all things Panthers. I'm Kristin Balboni and I'm
here with my fellow Sideline reporter Sharon Thorslan. Sharon, we
got a lot to talk about this week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, here we go again, right, and it's been another
eventful week here around Bank of America Stadium. So I'm
going into week three. We've got we've got lots going on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, and certainly, as all Panthers fans know by now,
anyone listening to this podcast, unless you've been under a rock,
maybe Andy Dalton will be starting this week when the
Panthers head to Las Vegas to face the Raiders. And Sharon,
you know, I'll just start out. I talked to Dave
Canalis earlier this week and I asked him about this decision,
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and he said, of course, it was incredibly tough, right
as you would expect, he said, but I owed it
to the team to do a fair evaluation. And ultimately
that evaluation was that Andy Dalton should start and Bryce
Young should sit.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, and when you look at it just from an unbiased,
you know picture. I mean, the first two weeks of
the season, this offense was stagnant. They were not able
to really get anything going. And you know, certainly not
all Bryce Young's fault, but as it often does it
if you know, the quarterback takes the brunch of the
criticism or the most of the praise when things go well.
So Bryce just was not able to get this offense
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to respond. And going with the guy who you know
has been there, done that, Andy Dalton has done it
for so many seasons in this league. I did very
well for this team a year ago when he came
in and started in Seattle, and they threw for like
I think the most years they threw all season.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
With three hundred something.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
And so he did a great job moving the office.
And also he's a he's a veteran leader on this
team and has been in this league for a long time.
So he knows how to push guys buttons, he knows
how to get guys to respond. He he's just to
sort of a rock out there on the field and
on the sidelines for guys. So I think this is
going to be a really good move to see what
he can do with this offense headed into a Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, and that's what I asked Canalis about. I said,
what about his skill set? You know, works with the
offense that you want to run and we really haven't
seen that offense, right, because they've been down early. You'd
like to run the ball a lot more and certantly
be able to take some shots downfield. And he said
the same thing and also the same thing that you
just did, Sharon, which is his resume speaks for itself, right,
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and we're going to have experience in there, and also
a guy that knows what's coming and isn't afraid of that.
So in something you said, Sharon about him being a
leader on this team, as both of us have seen,
and if you're listening to the radio broadcast, maybe you
can't see it as much, but he and Bryce Young
are in lockstep during these games and certainly in practices
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as well. And you can tell that Bryce, and I'm
sure he said it as well, gets a lot out
of having Andy there, and you know they can bounce
ideas off of each other. They can look at the
Microsoft surfaces where they look at plays and so will
you be looking this week when you head on the
road to Las Vegas, are you going to be looking
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at how Bryce is, you know, working with Andy Dalton
and certainly what Andy is doing right?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Absolutely, And that's one thing I did noticed last year
in Seattle was that Bryce was was sort of the
opposite of what he normally was, or he had the
headset on and he was just on Andy's shoulder. Every
time Andy would come off the field, he'd go right
over to him. They would do exactly what you said,
go over the tablets together, look at the plays, dissect things,
tell each other what they saw. So it's just sort
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of a role reversal in that respect, And I would
assume that we'll see that again because that's something that's
been Bryce has said it's been invaluable to him to
have a guy like Andy Dalton there for him so
he can bounce ideas off of him, so we can say,
all right, what did you see that I didn't see?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
How would you react to the situation? That kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So I think that Bryce is going to continue to
be able to pick Andy's brain like that and actually
see it in action, which I think is going to
be really good for Bryce. I mean a lot of guys.
I mean, we all know how the NFL works. Right now.
You're a high draft pick, you're one, two, three, four, five,
whatever it may be. You're expected to come in and
start right away and save a franchise. And generally, if
you are picking one, two, three, your franchise has been struggling.
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So it's a tough situation for any guy to come into.
And so I think being able to have the opportunity
to learn for however long that may be, being able
to watch a guy who's been there, done that at
a high level for a long time is going to
do nothing but help Bryce Young.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
I know it's a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I'm sure it's a tough decision, as coach Canal has said,
but I think it's going to benefit Bryce in the
long run, and so I expect him to be right
there with Andy the entire game once again on Sunday,
watching and learning.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think that's such a great point. Absolutely, And you know,
speaking to Canalis in the past, he said, I think
this was after Game one, and he said, with Bryce,
it's I want him to get his confidence up. He said,
it's non experience thing. He said, it's it's a confidence thing,
and so I agree with you. While I'm sure it
is very tough for Bryce to hear, hey, we're going
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to go with Andy this week, it might be a
confidence reset, as you said, Sharon.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know when you suffer through a
season like he did a year ago, that that confidence
can be dinged, no doubt about it. I mean, it
was a It was a tough situation for everybody on
this football team, not just Bryce in the offense, but
particularly for him because he is, you know, the face
of the franchise, the rookie, the guy that everybody's looking
at at quarterback, and so it was tough for him
last year. And I'm sure subconsciously maybe some of those
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things are hard to forget you Maybe you're you're thinking that, Okay,
I've moved past this year two. But then you get
out there and they feel and go, oh my gosh, are
they coming at me again like they did last year
or kind of thing. So who knows, but the confidence
definitely needs to get rebuilt, and I think that doing
something like this only help him.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I agree. One guy that I'm sure you'll be keeping
an eye on, and I wanted to as we share
our sideline notes. One thing I found really interesting on
the sideline Cuba Hubbard. You know, you get your typical leaders,
your Adam feelens, your shacks, but Chuba came off of
it and what was a very difficult game obviously for
that entire offense. I think he was averaging six yards
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of carry but only sixty two yards in an offense
that couldn't quite get going. But he came off the
field he, you know, good or bad, was really urging
his teammates. You know, hey, there's still plenty of time left,
like let's go, let's get the energy up and Sharon,
it's very interesting to see him start to assume that
leadership role. And you know it's someone on the opposite
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side of the field, but we started to see it
with Derek Brown. You know, they don't have the sea
like before he had the sea on his chest. And
I don't know if Juba will be a captain eventually,
but you start to see these guys that came into
this league as young guys. Certainly he sat behind Christian
mccaffe learned from him to see them become leaders and
I think that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and I saw Cuba start to do that
last season. He's like you said, he's a guy, and
he certainly did it in Game one down there in
New Orleans, and I expect to see that again this
weekend and moving forward. He you know, he doesn't talk
a lot when you're like in the locker room stuff.
He's not always the most chit chatty guy with the
media or anything like that, but he is out there
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always with his teammates talking and yeah, you see him
come off the field and he'll go down specifically, he
goes down to the offensive line a lot, thanks them
for what they're doing, you know, like you said, gives
them the you know, the high fives, and say, come on, guys,
let's get go, and we've got a lot of game left.
He was doing that in New Orleans. He's like we
you know, this is going into halftime. It's like it,
let's hit the reset button. We got a whole second
half to go here. So he's definitely a guy who's
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become more vocal. He'll even go down to the defensive
side as well and give them some words of encouragement.
So I think it's great to have a guy like
that step up when who certainly they can look at
and respect because of what he does on the field
and in his preparation. I mean he still sits out
there every single game in the pregame for like thirty
minutes catching balls from the Dugs Machine. He does that
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every day after practice with Tommy Trumble. They're trying to
bat him down around him, so he puts in the work.
He puts in that extra preparation day in and day out,
so he you know, he lives up to what he's preaching.
He's not just yelling shallow things out there. I mean,
he lives how he talks, and he practices that way,
he plays that way, and so I think guys really
respect that and then really respond to his words on
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the sidelines.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I completely agree, And yes, I love that you said
the Jugs machine. So that's one of the insights that
we can give to fans. And maybe you've seen it,
if you've been at a game. You're right, you can't
think of Cheube Hubbard without thinking of the Dugs Machine.
Exactly what he does all the time, you know, before games,
like you said, after practice, he's extended his practice time
by a good what two hours a week doing the
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Dugs machine. And another thing Sharon that I think has
come along with this confidence is to see the work
that he is done on his body. I remember when
he got drafted, he's, you know, a slighter guy, a
smaller guy, and now each year I see him come
in and he's bulked up more and more, which of
course we know you need to play running back in
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the NFL. So just another way that I've been impressed
with him. I think all around, like we've said, he's
impressive his leadership, the way he runs the ball, the
way he prepares, and then also the work he has
done to really be the main back for a team
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Absolutely, and he's really I think relishing in this challenge.
I mean, he earned that starting role a year ago,
has kept it now this season, Like you said, the
run game has not really gotten going very well yet
because of the situations and games that we've been facing
so far. But I expect to see him hopefully get
out there and really run the heck out of it
this weekend because this Raiders defense struggling to stop the run.
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They're ranking twenty ninth in the league, so this could
be a big day for Chewba and as.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We know, that is what Dave Canalis wants to do
with this offense. That's what he came in doing. Hasn't
had a chance to do that because they've been down early,
forced to pass and you know, tough getting things going.
So we'll see if they can make that happen. Let's
talk about the defense a little bit.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Of course we watched to see the guys in rotation
with Derek Brown being out. I thought they did pretty well,
you know, especially on short notice. The other thing I
want to see this week, Sharon, and I'm sure you
do too, is the Raiders have Brock Bowers and they
have DeVante Adams, and those guys went for like over
two hundred yards combined in this in this last game.
(10:32):
I was talking to Thomas Davis earlier this week and
he said something like brock Bowers has been targeted seventeen
times in the first two games and he's caught fifteen passes,
so that it's a tall task for this defense. I'm
sure you're going to be watching how that all goes.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And this kid, I mean he's a rookie, you know,
rookie coming in here and doing that kind of stuff
is not not easy to do. He's, you know, a
big guy six to six, I think so, and he's
very quickly become Gardner Minshew's face target or one of them.
And we all know what DeVante Adams can do. My goodness,
I mean, he's just been in for a long time.
All proves I think, six time pro bowler. And you
do have d Kobe Myers out there still too, so
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you can't exactly forget about him former NC State wolfpacker
of course. So yeah, I mean these guys, the secondary
in particular, are going to have their hands full with
these guys and brock Bowers that's going to be a
guy that you want to see them target early on
to try to slow him down, take him out of
the game.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He is a rookie. He can make some rookie mistakes.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
We haven't seen a whole lot of them yet with
like you said, catching fifteen out of seventeen targets is amazing.
So they've got their work cutout for them. This defense does.
But I think they will rise to the challenge. And
they certainly played better last week against the Chargers and
they did in Week one against the Saints, so hopefully
we'll continue to see that improvement each week.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, Sharon, it's always great to exchange notes with you.
Safe travels out to Las Vegas. I hope it's a
great time, and I hope we are talking about a
win next week.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Sounds like a plan. Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
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Speaker 2 (12:13):
All right, I'm joined now by longtime NFL safety and
one of the voices of the Carolina Panthers, Eugene Robinson.
What is up, my friend?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Oh Bony, I am doing wonderful. How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I am great. It's always one of my favorite things
when I hear you yell Bone. It's not game day,
it's not game day. It's not game day unless I
know that. So let's talk about this team. You know,
we talked after last week's game where the Panthers went
to oh and two, and I want to specifically ask
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you because you are someone that always brings the energy.
Of course, as all the fans know, how do you
if you're in that locker room right now with the
oh and two and then you have a quarterback change,
how do you bring the energy?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Well, ain't one thing what coach Canalys has been already.
The fact that he benched Bryce Young already set the
message because don't forget at every position, if you're not
playing well, you can you can be benched. And so
the quarterback position is no different, and here it is.
I think I think at some point too, that Bryce
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is gonna welcome the fact that Okay, put Andy Dalton
in and let him do a thing while I can
go ahead and learn. And the other thing that I
think that coach Canalys has done is he hasn't lost
the team because the fact that he would do that
to the quarterback means that he's treating everybody the exact same.
So there's the energy because now you don't set Bryce
Young up as being separate from the team. He's a
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part of the team. So I think the energy is
already there.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I think the fact that Andy Dalton's gonna bring a
very different energy because he's already played in the pros,
he's already had success, he knows the sport, He knows
all the nuances that Bryce is just getting ready to.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's a that's a great point. I was talking to
Dave Canallis earlier this week. I said, how does Andy's
skill set match what you want to do on offense
because we haven't gotten to see what Dave Canalis wants
to do on offense for the Panthers because they've been
down early. And he said, he said, the same thing
you do. He said, Look, his resume speaks for himself.
So Eugene, what I mean. Andy's been in this league
(14:23):
for a long time as a former pro bowler. What
can we expect from him?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I think what you get what Andy Dalton is you're
gonna get a quarterback that's gonna know where to go
with the ball, and I think you're gonna have coach
Canalis to trust him to throw the ball downfield. That's
something that was sorely missing. We were throwing the ball
laterally with Bryce Young. You can't win games that way
in the West Coast office, yes you can, but as
a different zipper selection of the plays here, it is
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throwing the ball downfield. Deeper down the field. You're gonna
challenge the cornerbacks and you're gonna challenge the safeties and
you're gonna put them on notice that we're gonna go
ahead and threaten you downfield. No one wants to be
threatened downfield. Andy Dalton's gonna be able to do that,
and I think coach Canalis will give him the freedom
to go ahead and threaten them downfield. Also, the blessing
he's not gonna be worried about when you're blitzing me
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from the left right up the middle. You know what
the hot route is immediately. So some of the things
that Bryce Young is learning, you don't have to worry
about Andy Dalton because guess what, he's seen it all
and too.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
If they can get the running game going, then that
gives your defense a little bit of a break, right Eugene.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Absolutely, Tuba Hubbard had Tuba Hubbard had sixty four yards
on ten carries, I think you got to go ride him.
I think you've got to go ahead him and give
him twenty carries. Is really predicated on the quarterback success
of how well you can run the rock, and Tuba
can run the rock, and I think that he wants
to be that guy. The offensive line I thought did
(15:50):
a great job of blocking offensively on the run, and
I would expect that what coach is gonna do is
have much more of a six run to pass ratio.
And if you can get to that pass racial sixty
to forty run to pass ratio, your pass has become
that much more important because now you stress people down
the field because they have to stop the run on
(16:12):
eight man fronts.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Gene, I have a question for you, and I know
it's more nuanced than what I'm gonna ask you, but
do you think we start quarterbacks too early in this league,
like the high profile rookies the number one picks.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yes, absolutely, Bony, Yes, we do. You know, you know
there is an education process that happens on the bench.
That's okay. Let's look at Aaron Rodgers and Brett Barr.
Look at Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love. All right, it's
okay to sit on the bench and learn. That's not
a sin. And the more that you can learn and
(16:47):
be prepared at this level and at the college level,
the better you are. I mean, C J. Stroud, that's
an anomaly. Everybody doesn't come in Peyton Manning. We can
look at Peyton Manning, we can look at John l
when they came in that first year starting. Guess what,
they had terrible seasons, terrible all right, they worked themselves out,
(17:07):
they became the best quarterback. I get it. But I
think there's some education that we miss by sitting on
the bench. And I think as a quarterback position, you're
gonna have to start right away. You can just go
ahead and learn in the comfort of somebody like an
Andy Dalton. Why they hand over the rings to you?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, I think what if Pete Manning set the lead
record for interceptions in his first year. Well, luckily he
bounced back from that, but what a season that was.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yes, he did. And like I said, there's no sin
in sitting the bench. It's okay. And you got the
quarterback spot, all right, if you hold the clipboard, it's
all right to hold the clipboard, said, so that you
can learn and so and that way your confidence doesn't
wane when you good in the game and you have
some miss ups. Right, here's what I'm worried about Bryce.
I'm worried about his confidence, love definite. I'm worried about
(17:59):
will he be able to else back confidence? Because I
saw his face and his face told me that man
I can't believe I'm playing this way, and then you
think that's the truth, and that's not the truth. He's
the accomplished quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's exactly what Dave Canalis said. He said, I'm not
worried about his experience. He said, I've told him he
has got and this was granted, this was going into
the last week's game, so I don't know what he
has said to him since then. I just want to
be clear about that. But going into last week's game,
he said, you know, it is about the confidence. He said,
I'm not worried about the experience because he's seen pretty
(18:34):
much like there's not going to be that much new
that he hasn't seen. He's a very accomplished quarterback. I
reminded him of all he's done in college and high school,
the level that he can play out. It's just being
comfortable and maybe sitting for a little while will help
him with that confidence.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And Bonnie, that's another thing I would add to that
is that Coach Canalis show him film of how well
he's played in college and games he's played well, so
he could remind himself that, oh, I'm not as bad
as I think I am. Because he's not.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
All right, Eugene. Of course, I got to ask you
about the defense. They took some steps forward after that
very very tough game to start the season where they
lost forty seven to ten. But but what what did
you think of them overall in this last game?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
They took steps backwards. I thought that I thought they
got pushed around. If I'm being honest, I mean they
had over two hundred something yards rushing the ball. Yeah,
Dobbins had like one hundred and sixty plus yard or
somewhere on there. I mean on one thirty five. But
he looked like he looked like, you know, walk the
(19:39):
payton somebody out there. And so that standpoint. I know
that they run a system. I know that Derek Brown
is out out a bit, and I get it. But
I thought they took a step backwards. I thought they
lost too many yards yards on the ground running. And
that's the recipe for disaster, because if you could run
the ball, you could pass the ball, and it's hard
(20:01):
to stop people and you can't get off the field.
It's hard to get off the field on third down
because the team can get five yards a clip, four
yards a clip, six yards a clip. Oh, they got
a first out five yards a clip four yards clip? Oh,
they got a first out, and you find on, uh,
your big guys are gonna get tired, So we have
to stop the run and do a better job of
(20:22):
stopping to run. And if we don't stop the run,
you're gonna see repeatformances of man of having guys tired
out there can't get off the field in long drives.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yep, And you're right there. There are some third and
short situations where you think they'd be able to stop it,
and then they go ahead and give it up, and
then that's a whole other set of downs. How do
you how do you stop the run?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, so they did a bad job at that this week?
Is that watching film? Is it extra practice? How?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Because obviously everyone in that locker room is a professional.
So how do you make the switch? This week?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
So it's control one, gap control two. And the fact
that when you get into an eight man front when
you're gonna have an opportunity because eight men front typically
stops the run, and you're gonna have an opportunity to
make the tackle. You gotta make the tackle. You can't
go oh, I'll get the tackle next time, Oh, I
get sold one is eight man front. Get eight guys
(21:20):
at the line of scrimmats, dare them to go to
run the ball, all right, and then as control, make
sure if you have a gap or you have the edge,
make sure that nobody gets outside of your edge. We
lost our age control and our gap control. And then
if you're gonna get double team, will say, well, the
deepest of tackles, get double team. Your linebackers gotta be stellar.
(21:41):
They gotta be stellar. They gotta be Loop Peakley like
Thomas Davids, like flying side to side making those tackles,
because those are gonna be the free guys, the free
hitters to make that tackle on their running back.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
All right, we've talked about what to do to stop
the run game. How do you stop a guy like
Devonte Ams. It's a podcast.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
You can't I imagine gonna say I got Dbonte, I
got Dabat, Yes you have Dabat. He is outstanding, outstanding receiver.
I'm looking for that matchup. But if I'm them, I'm
gonna double team him with that safety over the top
and make somebody else beat me. I'm not gonna have
(22:20):
Debt beat me. I'm gonna have somebody else beat me,
so I'm gonna double beat me.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's great, great advice, Eugene. We are gonna be looking
to see what this what this new Panthers offense looks like,
and if this Panthers d can can take a step forward,
like you said, instead of taking a step back. You
got me right there. We're gonna see if they can
take a step forward in this game when they go
out to Vegas to match up against the Raiders. Thank
(22:45):
you so much. It is always such a pleasure talking
to you. I feed off your energy. Anyone who's listening
does the same. This was awesome. Thank you, Bony.
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Speaker 2 (23:24):
Okay, I am so excited to talk to linebacker Josie Jewel. Josie,
thank you so much for giving us a few minutes.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Okay, So, as a sideline reporter, you know, I notice
things right. And one thing that I have noticed, which
I'm sure everyone else has too, but I wanted to
ask you about, is your relationship with Shaq Thompson. You
guys seem like almost like like can join twins on
the sideline sometimes, which is great, right, That's what you
want your linebackers to do. Is there a friendship there.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, there's a really good friendship there.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Ever, since day one getting here, it's been awesome, you know,
a new facility for me, new people, new organization. I've
been at one for six and now coming to a
totally different one. Didn't know what to expect, and a
guy to help me around and show me the ropes.
A great leader and a communicator on the field and
off the field. So it's been fun hanging out with
him on and off the field, then our off time
(24:17):
a little bit, uh and just kind of staying close
to him, you know, during the workday and trying to
take as much knowledge as possible from a guy like him.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Wait, what do you guys do in your in your
off time?
Speaker 6 (24:29):
We've gone out out and eaten a couple of times.
We got to get him out maybe to asle one
of these times get him. He said he did want
to come, So we're going to do that.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
We were going to do another little hunt too with
all the linebackers after ot ended up falling through with
everybody's schedule.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
So it's it's a tight knit group. A lot of
good guys in that group.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, you said the farm. Tell me
about the farm in Iowa.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yeah, so I grew up on about a twelve hundred
acre farm that has cattle and turkeys and a bunch
of crops. And then now I own about sixty acres
of my own and do my own stuff, just small stuff.
My parents still run there is with my brother. So
maybe show them a little bit of that stuff. Maybe
get a bunch of linebackers out there and shoot some
guns and have a little fun and go after that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, and they'd be good help, right if your parents
need some help, Like those guys can certainly lift some
stuff and all of that. Now. Okay, this might be
a silly question, but if you're getting around on twelve
hundred acres, are you on ATVs? Are you on horseback?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
What do you do?
Speaker 7 (25:27):
It changed probably growing up up until I was about
thirteen fourteen, probably fifteen, honestly, we ride a bunch of
horses and stuff like that. And then after that and
probably twelve the end of my high school career, I
was probably driving a little more motorcycle and stuff like that.
Because you got a check fence, you got to chase
(25:49):
cattle around, move them to different pastures. So it was
a combination of horses, but more horses than anything early
in my childhood, which was awesome because we had we
had about six horses and then two aft horses at
the time. They could pull like a big sleigh or
like just a wagon and we'd all sitting there and.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
It'd be cool.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
But definitely definitely interesting how the farm kind of grew
as we got older.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, yeah, can you get those linebackers on horses? I
would pay to see that if we can live stream it.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
We only got a couple now, but we could definitely try.
We have some smaller ones. They might break their backs.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
So oh gosh, yeah, no ponies right, No, many horses.
We don't want that. So do you ride motorcycles now
or is that a thing of the past now that
you have a family and you obviously your career, you
don't want to get hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
No.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
I still I still drive motorcycles and stuff like that.
Nothing crazy, just like in Darrows and sports ones. Nothing
like I need a Harley. But that'll probably be down
the road.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Maybe that'll be.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
A couple three or four years, maybe five when I'm done,
so that'll be something to enjoy. Wash is a big
motorcycle guy here. Some have to take some information from him.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh good to know. I did not know that Wash
was a big motorcycle guy. I have to ask him
about that. So one thing that you and Shack have
in common as that your dad's to little kids. I
have gotten information. I have two little ones too. I've
gotten advice from Shack on on his kid. You know,
he's got three they're getting it was seven to five
and three, I think, And I've got a two year
(27:13):
old and a baby. So I've gone to him and
I've been like, Okay, what do you do about this?
What is it? Like being a parent of young little
kids and being in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Oh yeah, it's fun and it's nice to share that
similarity between both of us. Honestly, we can talk about
that stuff if we're not talking about football.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
We're talking about our families.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
And maybe they're being little craps at the time, or
maybe they're enjoying our time with them. Most of the
majority is enjoying our time and just how funny they
are as they grow up. Minor two and four right now,
so definitely funny times, they're hilarious. But yeah, it's nice
to be able connect on that.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Letvel too.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, my two year old says the craziest stuff, like
he just has gotten into playing the guitar, and it's
I mean, you can't understand any of it, but it
is so cute to watch, Oh my gosh, and just
like seeing their vote, yeah, seeing their vocabulary blossom and
all of that. It's it is amazing. What is it like?
It's something I'd like to ask football players. You know,
we see the contracts get signed or a guy gets
(28:09):
drafted or whatever, and we don't think about the reality
behind moving across the country. What was it like deciding
to move your family across the country and like who
you know you got to deal with like Wi Fi
setups and and all that stuff, you know, packing up
and moving. So what goes into that decision.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's a lot of it's a
lot of family stuff for sure. I mean we had
a lot of help, honestly, whether it be my family
or my wife's family helping us move. I'm kind of
a cheaper guy when it comes to that. And then
I didn't want to hire a moving company, so we
ended up doing most of it ourselves. We had a
couple hired hands to like move the stuff into.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
A U haul and yeah, family friends and my mom,
my dad, and my brother in.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Law drove it from Colorado to Iowa, and then a
family friend drove it from Iowa to Carolina. So and
then a bunch of people helped me move it out
and take it out and stuff like that from the
Colorado house and bring stuff back to Iowa. And he
puts a couple of things there and move a couple
of things from Iowa down to here, Carolina. So it
(29:11):
was definitely a process. Yeah, I don't know how people
do it after a year. Yeah, that one is good
enough for me.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Honestly, they probably hire moving companies to be honest, there's
not too cheap, like me, did you I mean, did
you get your parents and anything for doing that? Like
I mean usually we give someone a pizza right for
helping them move you, but they're driving across the country.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah, I gave them three and a half pizzas for
right now, got their anti. I give them a little
bit of something.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Those prizes here soon. So yeah, I mean you definitely
have to you definitely have to help them out. I
mean it is a family thing, so you know, families
do a lot of things for free, but definitely help
them out in any way. And yeah, you got to
give them some sort of money or some sort of value.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, I mean my mom and I have a great relationship,
but I don't know if she's driving my stuff across
the country. True story though, my husband and I we
moved from LA to Chicago and he drove our U
haul across the country. But the condition was that I
couldn't ride with him. He was like, look, we've been
together a long time. I know, like I'm a I'm
a backseat driver. And he was like, I will do
(30:16):
this on my own like we cannot and like we
know our lanes like that. I was like, yeah, sure,
that's fine, I'll fly on a plane. So relationship to
you exactly, like we know that's not for us. I
do want to. So I looked at your Instagram talking
about your kids. I saw that your daughter got to
meet Caitlyn Clark and you went to Iowa. And what
(30:36):
was that like for her to be able to see
to meet Kaitlyn Clark, who's such an iconic figure in
women's basketball.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Now, it was awesome.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean we we probably watched three or four
games before we ever took her to one, and I
think we went to one just with me and my
wife before we brought her, So we got her hyped up,
and I mean it didn't take much to get her
hype out. Kaitlin was such a polarizing player and a
great player. But then we finally went to the game
and and we had some communication with Caitlin and it
(31:06):
was great just to be able to have that interaction
and see my daughter's face light up. So it was
it was really cool a great person to to meet,
phenomenal person. I mean, you talk about people that are
that high stature and that big in the social media
and in sports. Usually maybe they're not the nicest sometimes,
or maybe they think they're arrogant or whatever, but she
was a phenomenal person.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
She's like your daughter's like, dad, you're cool, But this
is Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Now.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
Yeah, when she sees the pictures later, she'll she'll enjoy
even more.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm sure that's awesome. Well, Josie, thank you so much
for the time. This was great and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Awesome, no problem, good talking to you, and.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Thank you all for listening to the Sideline Past podcast.
We will be back next week.
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