June 25, 2025 • 23 mins
"How do I know I've got the best apple in the tree, when all I've had is a royal gala" - Callum Hole 2025
Callum's commitment issues are under the microscope this ep, and we think it might have something to do with him being cast in so many dating shows that he doesn't want to settle down.
Plus, Skye's had a realisation about her sexuality! And let's us in on whether her and Lachy will get married!
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Hosts: Skye Wheatley and Callum Hole
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, we're on.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bring okay Episode three, Hi guys, I feel like I'm
always the one to intro.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi guys, Sky and carlm again. Episode three of pretty
Much Chatting Pure Manu?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Are you are Manua? Okay? So on today's episode, we're
going to be chatting about a little bit of everything, relationships, sexuality,
green flags, red flags.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, and maybe just like how to sustain a relationship
longer than a couple of weeks. Yeah, you give me
some advice.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I feel like Cow needs a little bit of help
in that department. You know. The commitment issues are issue
wing literally Okay, So what was with that Instagram caption
that you posted? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What the jet ski handles were best? The nine handle commitment?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I mean, I'm not talk us through that. I'm just
struggling with the commitment side of things. Like I like
the idea of relationships, but I don't know how to
fully commit.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I feel like it can be scary though, because I
mean we've spoken about this in episode one. But you
don't want to give false hope when you don't know
where you're at.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that's right, And then sometimes you can get caught
up in the love bubble and think that that's what
you want. Then really you're not too shue on the
other side as well. Like the way I look at
it is like, how do I know I've got the
best apple in the tree if all I've had is
a broil gala? I want to dabble into the grandy smiths,
the pink ladies.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Geez good last honest ladies. At least he's honest. Do
you know what my theory is? When it comes to men,
I feel like the only way or the only reason
they will settle down is if they believe that they've
found the best fish in the sea.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, Like if a guy's like, oh no, I reckon
I could do better, Yeah, then they'll be like I'm
going to keep searching. But if they're like, nah, this
girl is so lid, love everything about her, good personality,
great tit's great ass, whatever else.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I feel like guys like there's an element that you
think the grass might be greener someone else until you
find the one and you're like, that is astraturf. It
ain't getting any fucking greener because it's plastic. Yes, that's
the one for me, but as well, I just feel
like unless you're ready, like ready ready for relationship, then
like it just fumbles. Because I know a couple of
guys that have been in like relationship, like you know,
(02:27):
close to like three, four or five years and everything's
like smooth sailing or whatever, but it's not really progressing.
Then they break up with some d then like meet
some dy two weeks later, all right, moving in kids,
Like when you know you're ready, you're.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ready if you know you know. And I feel like
that was the thing with Locking, And I'm like, why
haven't you propose to me? Like, not that I care
about it now, I'm just like whatever. But I feel
like he was such a slow burn, Like I mean,
I feel like he's always been sure of me, but
he's only just started talking about marriage in the last
two years. Yeah, right, and we've been together like eight
(03:01):
years now, So I'm like he didn't he wasn't like, yeah,
I'm gonna pop the question. But yeah. I feel like
if it's the right girl, they on the right time, yeah,
and the right time, the guys will be like yeah,
I'm all in, let's go. Yeah, But just some guys
just aren't into marriage, like and that's maybe how you'll
always be, Like do you think you'll ever be ready?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? Like all I want in life is like, you know,
a loving family, like a partner, lifelong partner, like marriage,
Like I want all of that, but I'm not into
the whole like stigma that like okay, like the clock
sick and we've been together for like three four years. Now,
when you're gonna propose, when you're gonna do this?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
When, like do you take it from me?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You do not need to rush, Yeah, you don't need
to rush. Yeah, and like for example, yourself, like you know,
you've you've got the kids and like you know you've
been building your house and stuff, like you ain't got
time years, yeah, like you ain't good time to like
plan you know, like, oh I know you got too
much when you play it already.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, I don't think about it. And my dog's cripple,
my manager's screaming at me for work every day. The
boys like so crazy and hyped, like the reno just
there's just so much going on. Yeah, there's no way
I could handle it. But I mean a wedding would
be fun.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, So yeah, how old are you again, I just
turned twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, so yeah, you're still so young, Like you have
a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I do have a lot of time because guys can
actually set it down a bit later, and like you know,
we can do that, like we don't have a biological
clock like as women do, but like like digit but
like like when I'm thirty five.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, you're not the one holding the baby.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's right, Like there's less there's less pressure. I guess
for guys that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But now can you understand from a woman's point of
view where we're coming from when we're like, okay, we
want to know if it's serious, and they do get
quite attached quite easily.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Because it's like you're like the DNA sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yes, it's our DNA to be like all right, let's
go baby time or whatever else, you know, step into
that feminine energy. So and like you said, we do
have less time than you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, so I do feel like I've got like
time to meet the right person. I'm not stressed about
meeting the one, but at the same time, I don't
want to be like thirty five and then be like
the rush rush, like meet somebody then like baby straight
away then like how smarriage that sort of. I want
to be able to have a young love where like
I travel and have loads of experiences yes, with my
partner before like having kids and stuff like that, because
(05:19):
like obviously when you have kids, you would know firsthand,
like your kids or your priority. You come just like
puck up and going like a random baker or a random.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All day, it's going to be a fucking night man.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, that's right. So I want to have that like
young love for a couple of years first, before the
kids and all that sort of stuff, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I mean, the kids do make it really special though,
Like I've always remembered the family trips over any brand
trip that I've ever been on, like it just makes
it so much more special, But it also does make
it a lot more stressful.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Were your kids planned? Like did you plan it?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, the kids weren't planned. So Lockie and I met
on Tinder. I was actually on and off with my
ex cam and we had broken up. I jumped on
Tinder and I was like, let's ye fun and then
yeah matched with Locke and he was like he didn't
believe it was me. He was like, there's no way,
this is guy Wheeley, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like, oh, because after Big Brother, after Big Brother.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, okay, so this was after Big Brother and he
thought it was like a full fake profile and I'm like, nah, bruh,
it's me and he was like, oh my god, you're
my favorite on Big Brother, like just full frothing. And
then I went I ended up getting back with Cam,
broke up again, and then went back on the app.
Lockie was still there, got chatting, met up a few times,
(06:37):
and then after like four months of dating, I was
pregnant with Forrest four months. Four months dude, oh my god?
So soon.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Lockie is such a good guy though, Like I feel
like I've not really had any problems or I've never
second guessed it. I'm like, no, I know he's all
in and I know that. I feel like he felt
like he'd experience what he needed to and he was
like ready to settle down.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh old, lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He's thirty two, okay, so a year older. Sorry, fucking old.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That was wow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No he's not. He's thirty four. Sorry, totally thirty five.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So what's that like four years older than you?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So is it four?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah? Yes? Yeah. So he's a little bit older than me,
but I feel like he was maybe more ready than
any other guy would have been at his age. Yes,
if I was. If I was twenty four when I
fell pregnant, how old would he have been?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh my god, you might as well ask me to
calculate the fucking mass of the earth as if.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I'm going to twenty eight. Yeah, so dude, he was
a year older than you falling pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He was falling pregnant.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, I was falling pregnant, but he was falling pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So he's
a year older than me. Right, was there any point
where like because obviously that's a big thing, right, four
months of no one's MD, I'm pregnant, Like what was
those conversations like, were like one hundred percent likes I'm
having it? Like? Was there any like yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Doubt, no doubt because I really wanted to have a baby.
I was really keen to settle down, which is like
I I can totally relate to, like the feeling rushed
and pressured thing because and I don't know why, but
I put the pressure on myself, like I was the
one who was pressuring myself. I'm like, oh, you got
to settle down. You have babies. This that like, I
(08:26):
my biggest advice to anyone would be like, don't rush
it and don't put that pressure on yourself, Like you
need to have such a strong, solid foundation to bring
children into the world and it is so important.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That you have that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And me and Lockie were all good, yeah, but like
we did, we barely knew each other.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
This four months is not longer all no, like, and
I instantly.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Moved in with him, like we were just like full
steam ahead straight away. It was very serious quite quickly,
maybe similar to how you and Sash were. But yeah,
I was more freaked out than him when I felt pregnant,
Like he was like so excited and keen.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
And I was like, oh my god, that's happening. Yeah yeah,
this is actually twenty eight. That's I think that's the
reasonable like age.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Mate, it's that's like you next year having a baby.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, that's actually scary doing nappies next year? Yeah mate, what.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What age do you think you want to settle down?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I want to, like I reckon, yeah, like you can't
put it like a time strength on it, like you
know what I mean, it's just kind of like, if
it happens, it happens. I'm not actively like looking for
like a relationship or like a partner. I'm just like
open to it. If it happens, it happens. I'm not
like I don't need somebody in my life. I'm happy
with like being single.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And to you as a dad, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's going to take some training and you have so
much more growing up to do.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Growing up to do, yeah, and like life experience, and yeah,
the worst thing you can do is have a baby
when I mean, you'll never be ready for a baby.
It's such a massive of life changing thing and such
a big responsibility. And I don't think people even grasp
the fact of how hard it is, how hard and
(10:08):
challenging it's going to be, and how much is going
to change your life.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah they say that because like your whole life is
revolves on your kids.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Right, Yeah, it's not your life anymore. I mean I'm
very big on like I'm going to take time for
me and do the things that make me happy because
I have to in order to be a good mum.
I have to fill my own coup as well.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, that's right, So I still I feel.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like I balance it really well. But there's other moms
out there who just like my mom for instance, she
just dedicated her whole entire life to me, and my
sister did not do anything for herself.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. I think that's how you keep
relationships alive too, right, Like if you have that like
one on one time with Lockie when the kids can
go to your mother's, well.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, you still need to be you because you're still
a couple.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, as a couple, because I feel like it's easy
to like get distracted, get caught up as kids, kids, kids,
kids kids.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and then they get about your partners.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Partner, and that's when your relationship relationship, I guess, can
kind of just like drift apart or let's not be
as strong.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But yeah, and it's definitely hard to navigate too, because
to find the balance you mean, yes, a balance and
also like be teammates and be living together and doing
absolutely everything together, like your parenting together. You're in each
other's pockets. It's like hard to keep that romance and
the spark alive.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
How do you keep it almost the spark alive?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't, I would say yeah, like doing things together.
Like we don't often get to go on dates together
because like if he wants to do something, I will
have the kids, or if I do something, he's got
the kids a lot of the time. So when we
do something together, I feel like it's it's like the
honeymoons period again.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, then like that that like thurns up
your cup. Then that will last you like a couple
of weeks or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Then go again, right, and it's like you fall in
love all over again. So I do think that's really important. Ah.
Another question I wanted to ask you was what's like
your green flag and your red flag when it comes
to dating a girl or like seeing someone.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I would have to say, like, the biggest green flag
for me is just like like your morals and your values,
like like are you family orientated? Like is that your goals?
Like can I The way I look at it is
like this is going to sound weird, but I feel
like you look as a guy, you look for your
partner to be somewhat similar to your mother. Yes, like
you do, and like my mother does the most for
(12:34):
the family. She always has She's like a very caring,
like mushing, loving like woman, and she's always been like
the heart of the household. So like I would like
look for a partner that like possesses those same sort
of values as my mother.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, that's really nice.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's like the biggest thing for me, you know, Like
can I see this woman being like the mother of
my children? You know? Yeah, because you have to like
I'm not going to date for the sake of dating.
I'd rather not, you know, like, if I'm going to
date somebody, it's going to be like I see that intentions, but.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right now not really because you're scared of commitment.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm scared of commitment. But I still like would only
like give my energies to those girls that are in
that same sort of realm.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So you kind of are you are thinking about the future,
and like, yeah, you have to be yeah serious about it,
but you still have commitment issue.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I work in on it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I work on your situation though. I think you've got
a lot going on. You're not gonna jeopardize your experiences
in your work right now.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like the way I look at it is like I
can have I've got loads of I've got loads time,
but I've got enough time to find somebody to meet,
somebody that will come over time. Like if I turned
stuff down, like TV shows or any opportunities, then like
that's gone forever now.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Honestly, right the wave, ride the wave, right the wave?
Do you know what? Actually? Fun fact, I turned down
Jeordie Show when I started dating Lockie because I got
asked to do Jeordie Show. Yeah right, and I I
turned it down for him because he was like, no,
you can't do that. Well I instantly knew. I'm like,
he's not gonna like that. That's not going to be
(14:08):
good for our relationship, and yeah, I just don't see
that and him working together, working together. So I turned
it down. But looking back, I'm like, my advice would
be like, just don't Yeah, I don't take I feel
like you counity. Obviously, I'm happy with how my life
panned out, But yeah, I think I was put in
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a really hard situation. I really wanted to do it.
I love being on TV. I loved that whole experience,
but I also found a really good guy. And then
it just makes your decisions so hard, and then you're
always going to look back and be like what if what?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah? And that's it, Like that is what plays on
my name exact words. What if Like I don't ever
want to go do that and be like what if
I did that? Like what like I don't leave any
storm and turned and I want to just take every
opportunity that comes my way with bullharms because I feel
like you regret the things that you don't do.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I know. But also I think if I did
go on Jeordie Shaw and I got out, I would
have been like, damn it, I just lost a really
good guy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Right Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah you do. Yeah, You're
getting pulled from like both ways, and that's the story
of my life. That's why I find it's so hard
to commit. Yes, like you need to be one hundred
percent certain to go through with like a relationship. Yeah,
otherwise like you'll just like lose out opportunities, like opportunities
hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And that's like your bread and butter right now.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah it is. Yeah, like it is touch wood. Like
I've been lucky enough to have like a show after
the show, I've always got one lined up, so it's
always in the back of my mind when I'm meeting
some d It's like I like spending time with you.
This is fun. Then I have this like burden in
the back of my head. It's like you've got this
coming up, Carlum, don't get too deep.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I mean, and it's almost like you you are
looking at it from a business perspective, right.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, but enjoyment too. Like, don't get me wrong, I'm
the same as you. Like I love TV, Like TV
is the best. I feel like it is one of
the best jobs in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It is because and it's a rare experience, like not
everyone gets to do that, but also not everyone could
do that.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah. Yeah, but it's like it's like work for us
because especially reality TV, because like you just got to
be yourself, right exactly. You don't have to do like
KPIs or be you like you can just be yourself
and like that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, it is the best job in the world. But
I think maybe you will always have problems while you're
doing this and while you're in this industry and meeting
a girl and dating a girl will be a chrd. Yeah,
just because of what you do. I mean, even Lockie
and I have our ups and downs, and he struggles
(16:39):
sometimes and you know, he doesn't fully understand the line
of work.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
But then like if you look at it us like
if you've got going on a date, if your partner's
gone on a dating show, right, or like some of
your scenes going on a dating show, right, How is
that any different to like you dating? Maybe, like I
don't know, a big famous act like Brad Pitt, brad
Pitt's in a movie, he's like hooking up with the
girl in bed for like an acting.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Purposes, Like, no, there is no difference. I don't think
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Actors that do have relationships that do have roles like
that in movies.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's way more intimate than like having a bit of
a dating fling on TV.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I know that would be hard.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, like how do they navigate it?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, I know. I guess it just comes down to
like respect and loyalty. But maybe your partner seeing that
like this is the job, Yes exactly, but it is
hard to be like, well, my husband or my wife
is kissing someone else like that is that would be
hard to deal with.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But like I get it, like with a date in
the specifically dating shows, Like I wouldn't expect any partner
to be like, oh that's okay. Yeah, you go go
on a dating show, like and you wouldn't want to
go on a dating show if you've seen something anyway,
because it's like not organic, it's not authentic, Like oh
there's people that do that. Is is common, it is
I would never do that. But even shows like Aussie
Shaw where like your pertness environments and like you're not
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intentions are not to go out to meet people, but
you just have to have fun and like some and
they play games where like involves you with a kiss
or whatever. It's like you're not going out to meet somebody,
You're just doing like a job.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, but I don't think you're going to meet a
girl that's gonna be like yeah, babe, all good, go
have fun, sholde.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know, yeah, I know. I don't expect that because
I don't for dinner. I'll have that on the tape
of my Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I wouldn't have expect a girl to be alright with
it because I as a guy, like if I was
seeing a girl, if she was doing it, I'll be
un comfortable too. So she's finding the balance I guess
in it.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And it's also knowing like maybe right now, it's just
not your time. Okay, So we've spoken about the green
flags and we just went so off topic, But what
about the red flag?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What's what's your green flags?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
My green flags is like number one, I'm gonna say confidence,
because if they don't have confidence and they don't feel
the security in the relationship, I feel like it could
kind of wear you down. And then they put that
insecurity onto you even if you're not doing anything wrong,
and they because they're feeling insecure. And I've been like
(19:02):
that before in relationships too, So I'm really just basing
it off me and like the old me being so
insecure and not having any trust for my partner. But
I do see that as potentially being like a turn
off or pushing the other person away.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Do you feel you again?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Another green flag would be yeah, just like how they
treat people and respect for everyone, no.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Matter, that's a big one.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Respect Like, yeah, just like being respectful to everyone. Red
flag would be maybe not putting me as a priority.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, Okay, like if I could see that they were,
they would rather go with their friends and I've drink
their friends, or like to put you to the side
a little.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Bit yeah exactly, so those are mine.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'd say my red flag would be like a girl
that doesn't have like a drive or like ambition, a
passion or like ambition. I hate the words I'm just.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
A girl, Like my gosh, people say that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, Like so many girls would say like, oh, like
I'm just a girl, Like I'm just a girl. Like no,
like you can still be like a girl and have
like ambition and passion and like strive to be the
best version of yourself, like career wise and all that
sort of thing like that to me is attractive. So
if a girl doesn't have that and just happy just
like coursing along like yea, not really having that ambition
to do things or be the best version of themselves,
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it's a bit like I feel like it slows me down.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So obviously you've been lucky for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, eight years, eight years when when you were twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But I did use something that if you had more
time then you might have explored your sexuality a little
bit more.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yes, So I was, and I don't want to offend
anyone here, but I was watching Love Triangle and it
was this girl and she was saying like she's pans sexual,
which's basically and I didn't even know what that meant.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I didn't know what pen sexual pen sexuality was until
watching this show. But basically, it's you are attracted to
the person's personality, not what sex they are.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So I feel like it's not bisexual.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, it's like you could be attracted to anyone, but
you're attracted to their personality. It doesn't matter what sex
or because there's all different.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Bisexuals just like women and female.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No that what's the same thing? Women and female? The
same thing? Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Sorry, male and female.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
This should be one of the things that we shouldn't
be talking about the podcast because we have no idea.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I'm like, oh god, I don't okay, No, So pan
sexuality is basically you trying to say, is you're not
attracted to their sex, You're just attracted to their personality.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, their personality and like who they are as a
person and stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, totally, I
think that I could go down that path because I
definitely see people's personalities before their looks or their sex. Yeah, yeah,
so I feel like I could maybe explore that or
I could have not now obviously, but I could have
(22:14):
maybe gone down that path. And I find it really
interesting because I'm like, yeah, totally, Like I definitely connect
with people's personalities.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, because I'm the opposite. I always go for
the looks, but then like that only lasts a short
amount of time because the personality is what like keeps
you there.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Right exactly, Like that's what that's what you're falling in
love with. Yeah, okay, because looks fade, don't they not.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Unless you get surgeries.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh my god, no putting, no pun intendard sitting next
to Scoe weekly.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But yeah, like I get you like the personality. So
what had you've gone back in time, would you have
been more open to meeting like both sexes?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah definitely. Yeah, all right, time to wrap it up.
I really hope I didn't offend anyone with what I said,
because I don't really know too much about it.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yes, it's not our specialities like my.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Fields to be chatting about, but I did find it
interesting and I'm like, oh, yeah, that could be me
anyway in another life. Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Guys season season three.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Season four will be right right around the corner next week.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Stay tuned, guys. Make sure you subscribe and if you
want to ask any questions or send your inquiries in.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Make an email sky and calam at NorVa Podcasts dot
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yep, there we go. Bye.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
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This podcast was recorded on Buddy lung Land and produced Inna.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, we're on.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bring okay Episode three, Hi guys, I feel like I'm
always the one to intro.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi guys, Sky and carlm again. Episode three of pretty
Much Chatting Pure Manu?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Are you are Manua? Okay? So on today's episode, we're
going to be chatting about a little bit of everything, relationships, sexuality,
green flags, red flags.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, and maybe just like how to sustain a relationship
longer than a couple of weeks. Yeah, you give me
some advice.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I feel like Cow needs a little bit of help
in that department. You know. The commitment issues are issue
wing literally Okay, So what was with that Instagram caption
that you posted? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What the jet ski handles were best? The nine handle commitment?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I mean, I'm not talk us through that. I'm just
struggling with the commitment side of things. Like I like
the idea of relationships, but I don't know how to
fully commit.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I feel like it can be scary though, because I
mean we've spoken about this in episode one. But you
don't want to give false hope when you don't know
where you're at.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that's right, And then sometimes you can get caught
up in the love bubble and think that that's what
you want. Then really you're not too shue on the
other side as well. Like the way I look at
it is like, how do I know I've got the
best apple in the tree if all I've had is
a broil gala? I want to dabble into the grandy smiths,
the pink ladies.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Geez good last honest ladies. At least he's honest. Do
you know what my theory is? When it comes to men,
I feel like the only way or the only reason
they will settle down is if they believe that they've
found the best fish in the sea.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, Like if a guy's like, oh no, I reckon
I could do better, Yeah, then they'll be like I'm
going to keep searching. But if they're like, nah, this
girl is so lid, love everything about her, good personality,
great tit's great ass, whatever else.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I feel like guys like there's an element that you
think the grass might be greener someone else until you
find the one and you're like, that is astraturf. It
ain't getting any fucking greener because it's plastic. Yes, that's
the one for me, but as well, I just feel
like unless you're ready, like ready ready for relationship, then
like it just fumbles. Because I know a couple of
guys that have been in like relationship, like you know,
(02:27):
close to like three, four or five years and everything's
like smooth sailing or whatever, but it's not really progressing.
Then they break up with some d then like meet
some dy two weeks later, all right, moving in kids,
Like when you know you're ready, you're.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ready if you know you know. And I feel like
that was the thing with Locking, And I'm like, why
haven't you propose to me? Like, not that I care
about it now, I'm just like whatever. But I feel
like he was such a slow burn, Like I mean,
I feel like he's always been sure of me, but
he's only just started talking about marriage in the last
two years. Yeah, right, and we've been together like eight
(03:01):
years now, So I'm like he didn't he wasn't like, yeah,
I'm gonna pop the question. But yeah. I feel like
if it's the right girl, they on the right time, yeah,
and the right time, the guys will be like yeah,
I'm all in, let's go. Yeah, But just some guys
just aren't into marriage, like and that's maybe how you'll
always be, Like do you think you'll ever be ready?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? Like all I want in life is like, you know,
a loving family, like a partner, lifelong partner, like marriage,
Like I want all of that, but I'm not into
the whole like stigma that like okay, like the clock
sick and we've been together for like three four years. Now,
when you're gonna propose, when you're gonna do this?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
When, like do you take it from me?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You do not need to rush, Yeah, you don't need
to rush. Yeah, and like for example, yourself, like you know,
you've you've got the kids and like you know you've
been building your house and stuff, like you ain't got
time years, yeah, like you ain't good time to like
plan you know, like, oh I know you got too
much when you play it already.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, I don't think about it. And my dog's cripple,
my manager's screaming at me for work every day. The
boys like so crazy and hyped, like the reno just
there's just so much going on. Yeah, there's no way
I could handle it. But I mean a wedding would
be fun.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, So yeah, how old are you again, I just
turned twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, so yeah, you're still so young, Like you have
a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I do have a lot of time because guys can
actually set it down a bit later, and like you know,
we can do that, like we don't have a biological
clock like as women do, but like like digit but
like like when I'm thirty five.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, you're not the one holding the baby.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's right, Like there's less there's less pressure. I guess
for guys that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But now can you understand from a woman's point of
view where we're coming from when we're like, okay, we
want to know if it's serious, and they do get
quite attached quite easily.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Because it's like you're like the DNA sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yes, it's our DNA to be like all right, let's
go baby time or whatever else, you know, step into
that feminine energy. So and like you said, we do
have less time than you guys.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, yeah, so I do feel like I've got like
time to meet the right person. I'm not stressed about
meeting the one, but at the same time, I don't
want to be like thirty five and then be like
the rush rush, like meet somebody then like baby straight
away then like how smarriage that sort of. I want
to be able to have a young love where like
I travel and have loads of experiences yes, with my
partner before like having kids and stuff like that, because
(05:19):
like obviously when you have kids, you would know firsthand,
like your kids or your priority. You come just like
puck up and going like a random baker or a random.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All day, it's going to be a fucking night man.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, that's right. So I want to have that like
young love for a couple of years first, before the
kids and all that sort of stuff, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I mean, the kids do make it really special though,
Like I've always remembered the family trips over any brand
trip that I've ever been on, like it just makes
it so much more special, But it also does make
it a lot more stressful.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Were your kids planned? Like did you plan it?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, the kids weren't planned. So Lockie and I met
on Tinder. I was actually on and off with my
ex cam and we had broken up. I jumped on
Tinder and I was like, let's ye fun and then
yeah matched with Locke and he was like he didn't
believe it was me. He was like, there's no way,
this is guy Wheeley, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like, oh, because after Big Brother, after Big Brother.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, okay, so this was after Big Brother and he
thought it was like a full fake profile and I'm like, nah, bruh,
it's me and he was like, oh my god, you're
my favorite on Big Brother, like just full frothing. And
then I went I ended up getting back with Cam,
broke up again, and then went back on the app.
Lockie was still there, got chatting, met up a few times,
(06:37):
and then after like four months of dating, I was
pregnant with Forrest four months. Four months dude, oh my god?
So soon.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Lockie is such a good guy though, Like I feel
like I've not really had any problems or I've never
second guessed it. I'm like, no, I know he's all
in and I know that. I feel like he felt
like he'd experience what he needed to and he was
like ready to settle down.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh old, lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He's thirty two, okay, so a year older. Sorry, fucking old.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That was wow.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No he's not. He's thirty four. Sorry, totally thirty five.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So what's that like four years older than you?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So is it four?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah? Yes? Yeah. So he's a little bit older than me,
but I feel like he was maybe more ready than
any other guy would have been at his age. Yes,
if I was. If I was twenty four when I
fell pregnant, how old would he have been?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh my god, you might as well ask me to
calculate the fucking mass of the earth as if.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I'm going to twenty eight. Yeah, so dude, he was
a year older than you falling pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He was falling pregnant.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Well, I was falling pregnant, but he was falling pregnant.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So he's
a year older than me. Right, was there any point
where like because obviously that's a big thing, right, four
months of no one's MD, I'm pregnant, Like what was
those conversations like, were like one hundred percent likes I'm
having it? Like? Was there any like yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Doubt, no doubt because I really wanted to have a baby.
I was really keen to settle down, which is like
I I can totally relate to, like the feeling rushed
and pressured thing because and I don't know why, but
I put the pressure on myself, like I was the
one who was pressuring myself. I'm like, oh, you got
to settle down. You have babies. This that like, I
(08:26):
my biggest advice to anyone would be like, don't rush
it and don't put that pressure on yourself, Like you
need to have such a strong, solid foundation to bring
children into the world and it is so important.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That you have that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And me and Lockie were all good, yeah, but like
we did, we barely knew each other.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
This four months is not longer all no, like, and
I instantly.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Moved in with him, like we were just like full
steam ahead straight away. It was very serious quite quickly,
maybe similar to how you and Sash were. But yeah,
I was more freaked out than him when I felt pregnant,
Like he was like so excited and keen.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
And I was like, oh my god, that's happening. Yeah yeah,
this is actually twenty eight. That's I think that's the
reasonable like age.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Mate, it's that's like you next year having a baby.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, that's actually scary doing nappies next year? Yeah mate, what.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What age do you think you want to settle down?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I want to, like I reckon, yeah, like you can't
put it like a time strength on it, like you
know what I mean, it's just kind of like, if
it happens, it happens. I'm not actively like looking for
like a relationship or like a partner. I'm just like
open to it. If it happens, it happens. I'm not
like I don't need somebody in my life. I'm happy
with like being single.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And to you as a dad, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's going to take some training and you have so
much more growing up to do.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Growing up to do, yeah, and like life experience, and yeah,
the worst thing you can do is have a baby
when I mean, you'll never be ready for a baby.
It's such a massive of life changing thing and such
a big responsibility. And I don't think people even grasp
the fact of how hard it is, how hard and
(10:08):
challenging it's going to be, and how much is going
to change your life.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah they say that because like your whole life is
revolves on your kids.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Right, Yeah, it's not your life anymore. I mean I'm
very big on like I'm going to take time for
me and do the things that make me happy because
I have to in order to be a good mum.
I have to fill my own coup as well.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, that's right, So I still I feel.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like I balance it really well. But there's other moms
out there who just like my mom for instance, she
just dedicated her whole entire life to me, and my
sister did not do anything for herself.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. I think that's how you keep
relationships alive too, right, Like if you have that like
one on one time with Lockie when the kids can
go to your mother's, well.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, you still need to be you because you're still
a couple.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, as a couple, because I feel like it's easy
to like get distracted, get caught up as kids, kids, kids,
kids kids.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, and then they get about your partners.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Partner, and that's when your relationship relationship, I guess, can
kind of just like drift apart or let's not be
as strong.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
But yeah, and it's definitely hard to navigate too, because
to find the balance you mean, yes, a balance and
also like be teammates and be living together and doing
absolutely everything together, like your parenting together. You're in each
other's pockets. It's like hard to keep that romance and
the spark alive.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
How do you keep it almost the spark alive?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't, I would say yeah, like doing things together.
Like we don't often get to go on dates together
because like if he wants to do something, I will
have the kids, or if I do something, he's got
the kids a lot of the time. So when we
do something together, I feel like it's it's like the
honeymoons period again.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, then like that that like thurns up
your cup. Then that will last you like a couple
of weeks or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Then go again, right, and it's like you fall in
love all over again. So I do think that's really important. Ah.
Another question I wanted to ask you was what's like
your green flag and your red flag when it comes
to dating a girl or like seeing someone.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I would have to say, like, the biggest green flag
for me is just like like your morals and your values,
like like are you family orientated? Like is that your goals?
Like can I The way I look at it is
like this is going to sound weird, but I feel
like you look as a guy, you look for your
partner to be somewhat similar to your mother. Yes, like
you do, and like my mother does the most for
(12:34):
the family. She always has She's like a very caring,
like mushing, loving like woman, and she's always been like
the heart of the household. So like I would like
look for a partner that like possesses those same sort
of values as my mother.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, that's really nice.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's like the biggest thing for me, you know, Like
can I see this woman being like the mother of
my children? You know? Yeah, because you have to like
I'm not going to date for the sake of dating.
I'd rather not, you know, like, if I'm going to
date somebody, it's going to be like I see that intentions, but.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Right now not really because you're scared of commitment.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm scared of commitment. But I still like would only
like give my energies to those girls that are in
that same sort of realm.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So you kind of are you are thinking about the future,
and like, yeah, you have to be yeah serious about it,
but you still have commitment issue.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I work in on it.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I work on your situation though. I think you've got
a lot going on. You're not gonna jeopardize your experiences
in your work right now.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like the way I look at it is like I
can have I've got loads of I've got loads time,
but I've got enough time to find somebody to meet,
somebody that will come over time. Like if I turned
stuff down, like TV shows or any opportunities, then like
that's gone forever now.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Honestly, right the wave, ride the wave, right the wave?
Do you know what? Actually? Fun fact, I turned down
Jeordie Show when I started dating Lockie because I got
asked to do Jeordie Show. Yeah right, and I I
turned it down for him because he was like, no,
you can't do that. Well I instantly knew. I'm like,
he's not gonna like that. That's not going to be
(14:08):
good for our relationship, and yeah, I just don't see
that and him working together, working together. So I turned
it down. But looking back, I'm like, my advice would
be like, just don't Yeah, I don't take I feel
like you counity. Obviously, I'm happy with how my life
panned out, But yeah, I think I was put in
(14:31):
a really hard situation. I really wanted to do it.
I love being on TV. I loved that whole experience,
but I also found a really good guy. And then
it just makes your decisions so hard, and then you're
always going to look back and be like what if what?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah? And that's it, Like that is what plays on
my name exact words. What if Like I don't ever
want to go do that and be like what if
I did that? Like what like I don't leave any
storm and turned and I want to just take every
opportunity that comes my way with bullharms because I feel
like you regret the things that you don't do.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I know. But also I think if I did
go on Jeordie Shaw and I got out, I would
have been like, damn it, I just lost a really
good guy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Right Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah you do. Yeah, You're
getting pulled from like both ways, and that's the story
of my life. That's why I find it's so hard
to commit. Yes, like you need to be one hundred
percent certain to go through with like a relationship. Yeah,
otherwise like you'll just like lose out opportunities, like opportunities
hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And that's like your bread and butter right now.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah it is. Yeah, like it is touch wood. Like
I've been lucky enough to have like a show after
the show, I've always got one lined up, so it's
always in the back of my mind when I'm meeting
some d It's like I like spending time with you.
This is fun. Then I have this like burden in
the back of my head. It's like you've got this
coming up, Carlum, don't get too deep.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I mean, and it's almost like you you are
looking at it from a business perspective, right.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, but enjoyment too. Like, don't get me wrong, I'm
the same as you. Like I love TV, Like TV
is the best. I feel like it is one of
the best jobs in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It is because and it's a rare experience, like not
everyone gets to do that, but also not everyone could
do that.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah. Yeah, but it's like it's like work for us
because especially reality TV, because like you just got to
be yourself, right exactly. You don't have to do like
KPIs or be you like you can just be yourself
and like that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, it is the best job in the world. But
I think maybe you will always have problems while you're
doing this and while you're in this industry and meeting
a girl and dating a girl will be a chrd. Yeah,
just because of what you do. I mean, even Lockie
and I have our ups and downs, and he struggles
(16:39):
sometimes and you know, he doesn't fully understand the line
of work.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
But then like if you look at it us like
if you've got going on a date, if your partner's
gone on a dating show, right, or like some of
your scenes going on a dating show, right, How is
that any different to like you dating? Maybe, like I
don't know, a big famous act like Brad Pitt, brad
Pitt's in a movie, he's like hooking up with the
girl in bed for like an acting.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Purposes, Like, no, there is no difference. I don't think
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Actors that do have relationships that do have roles like
that in movies.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's way more intimate than like having a bit of
a dating fling on TV.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I know that would be hard.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, like how do they navigate it?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, I know. I guess it just comes down to
like respect and loyalty. But maybe your partner seeing that
like this is the job, Yes exactly, but it is
hard to be like, well, my husband or my wife
is kissing someone else like that is that would be
hard to deal with.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But like I get it, like with a date in
the specifically dating shows, Like I wouldn't expect any partner
to be like, oh that's okay. Yeah, you go go
on a dating show, like and you wouldn't want to
go on a dating show if you've seen something anyway,
because it's like not organic, it's not authentic, Like oh
there's people that do that. Is is common, it is
I would never do that. But even shows like Aussie
Shaw where like your pertness environments and like you're not
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intentions are not to go out to meet people, but
you just have to have fun and like some and
they play games where like involves you with a kiss
or whatever. It's like you're not going out to meet somebody,
You're just doing like a job.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, but I don't think you're going to meet a
girl that's gonna be like yeah, babe, all good, go
have fun, sholde.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know, yeah, I know. I don't expect that because
I don't for dinner. I'll have that on the tape
of my Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I wouldn't have expect a girl to be alright with
it because I as a guy, like if I was
seeing a girl, if she was doing it, I'll be
un comfortable too. So she's finding the balance I guess
in it.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And it's also knowing like maybe right now, it's just
not your time. Okay, So we've spoken about the green
flags and we just went so off topic, But what
about the red flag?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What's what's your green flags?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
My green flags is like number one, I'm gonna say confidence,
because if they don't have confidence and they don't feel
the security in the relationship, I feel like it could
kind of wear you down. And then they put that
insecurity onto you even if you're not doing anything wrong,
and they because they're feeling insecure. And I've been like
(19:02):
that before in relationships too, So I'm really just basing
it off me and like the old me being so
insecure and not having any trust for my partner. But
I do see that as potentially being like a turn
off or pushing the other person away.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Do you feel you again?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Another green flag would be yeah, just like how they
treat people and respect for everyone, no.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Matter, that's a big one.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Respect Like, yeah, just like being respectful to everyone. Red
flag would be maybe not putting me as a priority.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, Okay, like if I could see that they were,
they would rather go with their friends and I've drink
their friends, or like to put you to the side
a little.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Bit yeah exactly, so those are mine.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'd say my red flag would be like a girl
that doesn't have like a drive or like ambition, a
passion or like ambition. I hate the words I'm just.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
A girl, Like my gosh, people say that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, Like so many girls would say like, oh, like
I'm just a girl, Like I'm just a girl. Like no,
like you can still be like a girl and have
like ambition and passion and like strive to be the
best version of yourself, like career wise and all that
sort of thing like that to me is attractive. So
if a girl doesn't have that and just happy just
like coursing along like yea, not really having that ambition
to do things or be the best version of themselves,
(20:31):
it's a bit like I feel like it slows me down.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So obviously you've been lucky for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, eight years, eight years when when you were twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But I did use something that if you had more
time then you might have explored your sexuality a little
bit more.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yes, So I was, and I don't want to offend
anyone here, but I was watching Love Triangle and it
was this girl and she was saying like she's pans sexual,
which's basically and I didn't even know what that meant.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I didn't know what pen sexual pen sexuality was until
watching this show. But basically, it's you are attracted to
the person's personality, not what sex they are.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So I feel like it's not bisexual.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, it's like you could be attracted to anyone, but
you're attracted to their personality. It doesn't matter what sex
or because there's all different.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Bisexuals just like women and female.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No that what's the same thing? Women and female? The
same thing? Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Sorry, male and female.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
This should be one of the things that we shouldn't
be talking about the podcast because we have no idea.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I'm like, oh god, I don't okay, No, So pan
sexuality is basically you trying to say, is you're not
attracted to their sex, You're just attracted to their personality.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, their personality and like who they are as a
person and stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, totally, I
think that I could go down that path because I
definitely see people's personalities before their looks or their sex. Yeah, yeah,
so I feel like I could maybe explore that or
I could have not now obviously, but I could have
(22:14):
maybe gone down that path. And I find it really
interesting because I'm like, yeah, totally, Like I definitely connect
with people's personalities.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, because I'm the opposite. I always go for
the looks, but then like that only lasts a short
amount of time because the personality is what like keeps
you there.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Right exactly, Like that's what that's what you're falling in
love with. Yeah, okay, because looks fade, don't they not.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Unless you get surgeries.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh my god, no putting, no pun intendard sitting next
to Scoe weekly.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But yeah, like I get you like the personality. So
what had you've gone back in time, would you have
been more open to meeting like both sexes?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah definitely. Yeah, all right, time to wrap it up.
I really hope I didn't offend anyone with what I said,
because I don't really know too much about it.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yes, it's not our specialities like my.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Fields to be chatting about, but I did find it
interesting and I'm like, oh, yeah, that could be me
anyway in another life. Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Guys season season three.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Season four will be right right around the corner next week.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Stay tuned, guys. Make sure you subscribe and if you
want to ask any questions or send your inquiries in.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Make an email sky and calam at NorVa Podcasts dot
com dot au.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yep, there we go. Bye.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's the hardest part of the job.
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