June 11, 2025 • 24 mins
We're kicking off the podcast with a bang today and giving you the breakup tea you've all been asking for.... What happened with Callum and Sasha?
Plus, because it's our first episode, we're reliving our time in the 'I'm a Celeb' jungle where we become besties... *cough* and one of us was crowned Queen *cough* And the moment we knew we were separated at birth.
Hope you liked ep 1!!! We promise to bring you SO much more unfiltered and raw chats with a side of gossip in all the episodes to come.
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Hosts: Skye Wheatley and Callum Hole
Executive Producer: Rachael Hart
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This podcast was recorded on Buddy lung Land and produced
in Na. Sorry Sexy, I saw it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
My old Sue eyes bro.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Teams Kangee is pretty Yankee.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All Right, we're on.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Bring yu.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hi, guys, Welcome to Sky and Cal's podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
First one episode, one Episode one, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's a long time come in, but we're on.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Finally, We've had our coffees, our energy drinks.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We're ready to rumble.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
So I'm SCA Murrie Wheatley. Some of you may know
me from Big Brother. I'm a celebrity Instagram. I am
a little bit of an influencer these days. I'm a
mom of two, live on the Gold Coast, born and
bred and yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's a little bit about me. One about Ukel.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, Carlum Hall. I was born in the UK, South Wales.
I moved over here when i was eighteen, think on
my eighteenth birthday and i've been here since. I've done
a few shows here in Australia, Love Island. I'm a
celeb Aussie Shaw and then you know the Dealer or
nor Dealers and all that sort of jazz.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah we did that together.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah we did Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
But then other than I do a little bit of
social media as well, but no, I needed to the
extent that you do it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Obviously, I am the queen Queens Queen.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So let's talk about how we met.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Okay, So, for all you guys, I don't know whole
Sky and myself met.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We actually met on. We were a celeb.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We weren't separated at birth. I know a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Thing that, yeah we met the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
The Jungler, Yeah, we are brother and sister.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But in another life, yeah, in another life. Oh yeah,
so we met on I'm a celebrity. And the funny
thing was, I had watched every single Love Island, like
what are they called seasons? I'd watch every single season
except for your And when you came in, I'm like,
who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm like, I don't know. And then I was like,
are you the love Brat? You were like, I guess so.
And you literally reminded me of Michael Finch, like a
buff bunny version of Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Don't get me started on micro Finch. I do not
see the resemblance whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Honestly, maybe just think it might be the eyebrows sharp bros.
Because he had Yeah, because obviously he was into makeup
and he manicured his brows really well, so maybe I
just looked straight at the eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm like, oh, hello, Michael Finch. Hello.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But yeah, we we had that short interaction and then
we didn't really talk for like two days or something.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
We were like in our own little groups.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Like everyone was like in a group, but we were
just like floating on every group that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But then we we had a really good chat maybe
four days in and I was like, oh shit, this
guy's like my brother.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I was like, you're the female version of me, and
this is actually really weird.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, but it was nice to have someone like you
in there because normally I always feel like.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
A lone wolf on the reality TV shows. I'm like,
oh god, I'm like the young, annoying dumb. Yes, obviously
that's great for TV, but I do feel like a
little bit of an outsider.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So it was nice to have someone that I really
clicked with and could resonate with.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So yeah, that was how we met.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I remember the first time I walked in because we
were in two different camps. Remember the first time when
like the whole the two camps came together. Yes, I
remember like seeing you for the first time, I thought, yes,
this is mad. She's gonna help me past some time.
Could be risen here For the next couple of weeks
of the Jung You're halfy days, they literally talked me
like a couple of hours, and I was like, she's
like my sister.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then I was like why was I thinking that?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
On one He's like, oh, this is brilliantsane.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Not the one we were having just a little conversation
or one of the beds, and I was like Sky, like,
what's the biggest word you know?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh, that's right, And you said some words patalely antologists.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, but you didn't really even know what it meant.
Not all then.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, I was like I can spell it, and You're
like all right, go and I'm like, actually, I haven't
spelt it in a while.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was like yeah that moment, I was like, she's
like the girl version of me.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah. Actual.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And then that viral clip of you being like I
think I'm got a tip and I'm like where show me?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And I'm like, yeah, bra, you do on your head.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Everyone else around me was like supportive and was like,
oh like you, and you're just like making that as worse,
like that's fucked.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I got tick in your head.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I wouldn't want to be you sort of thing, and
I'm like, that's exactly what I would do in any situations.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Support I'm like, oh my god, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That was That was one of the most like let
me clear, because I was like, you're like me in
the sense that you have this utmost confidence.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Like say exactly what you want to say.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, you say it straight away. Then like when you
get questions about it, you're just like, oh, not really
that shoe.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, You're like, oh shit, I don't know what I
was saying. I'm so sorry, but they're like.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, we got along soul, and I feel like as
the show went on and the group got smaller, we
became like.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Clo, Yeah, it was really good. It was so good
to be in the top three with you.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't think I would have changed to was in
the top three No, nor way.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Even though Tristan and I weren't like tight, getting to
know him towards the end was really nice and then having.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You there that was like my comfort.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, okay, we can be like chill,
be relaxed and be ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And I knew that, like, the longer you're in there
with me, the less chance I have of doing the trial.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I was like, just.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I know, Oh, when I just kept getting chosen, I'm like,
are you serious? But it was like a good and
bad thing. I guess because I knew it was like
the public wanted to see.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We got chosen a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think, yeah, do you have twelve trials? And I
think eleven?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes, something ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But I thought that people hated me. That's why I
was getting vaulted. I was like, I'm not doing anything wrong,
Like why do Australia hate me?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
No? I think they they thought you were very entertaining.
But yeah, I am so glad that we were both
on that show because I watch it back and I'm like, fuck,
we did good.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Like I feel like the show was what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That sounds up myself. I don't want to sound like,
you know, we carried the show.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But I might.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I feel like it was such a good cast.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, and it was so good that we were on
there together because I feel like the show was so
fun and just like they needed that.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
With shows like that, it's all about the cast, because
the cast, Micky Real.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, exactly, they make the whole show.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I feel like it was a really good cast,
and you're the only one I speak to out of it.
Out of everyone, I don't really keep in contact with anyone.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's hard that thaughrn it because like, no one's got
time really to like finish a reality show and have
like thirty new friends.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I know, it's go back to your normal life.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah life, Frankie, like you were no man.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He ghasted me. Yeah, but he said while we were
in there, he's.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Like, I would not keep in contact with anyone from
a show. And I get it, like I didn't keep
in contact with anyone from Big Brother or I'm a
celebrity or any of the reality things that I've done.
I think because we the reason why we've stayed in
contact is because obviously we're you.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Know, similar, similar, and.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're in business together.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Now, you know, real dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Dumb and dumber.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
We're about to Who's dumb?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We're about to film a sequel of Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know who's doumbe whos dumber? But I gotta
feed in it. I'm dumb and your dumber.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah probably, yes, actually no, you guys, can you guys
let us know who he thinks dumber?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But yeah, that's how we.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Met and glad we did because look where we are
now and we've got so much more fun to experience. Okay,
we are going to be deep diving into the drum roll.
(08:04):
Not that that's like a happy thing, and I'm not
like smiling because it is. It's always sad when you
part ways with someone. But I feel like, yeah, a
lot of people want to know. I get asked about it.
People are like, oh my god, what happened? And I'm like, yo,
not my business.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
To tea, staying well away from it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't love the drama.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Same, I hate it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I hate the people want the tea.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The people on the tea. So we're going to dive in.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, what are you comfortable sharing? What happened? How did
you meet?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Okay, so we running back to when we first met. Yeah,
we were on a brand trip in Fiji. Yeah, there
was a group of influencers. We're in Fiji for a
week and by chance, Sashi and I were on the
same flight. We traveled all the way out to Fiji
to the island together. When we got there, we were
actually told that we were staying in the same villa.
Everyone else already had their villas allocated.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'd be ranging, I like, get me the fuck out of.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The d I mean, it was a bit weird because, like,
you know, you'd think that, like, you know, a couple
of the boys would be together and the girls to
be together, and you know, we were the last ones there,
so it was just kind of like you're in the
same villa. Sash and I were cool with it, and
we just kind of stayed there. But then as the
trip went on, were there for like a week, we
started to get like closer and closer like every day
because like we spend every day, every night together.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But were you kind of just thinking it was a friendship?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I was.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I was thinking it was a friendship, but then I
don't know, it was like it felt so comfortable so
early on, and everything just started to like progress into
a little bit more than a friendship.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But we weren't looking up anything.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, it's easy to you know, have a relationship with
someone you feel comfortable with and like if your personalities are.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Vibing, yeah, it's it's not like pressure, right, Like we're
just like friends.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And now's the trip like started to unfold.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
We were doing all these like you know, day trips
and stuff, and Sash and I found ourselves like doing
more sit together like we'd be as a group, but
it would always be like sash Ni golding there together
or like doing the activities together or leaving early together.
And then like the last night, I started lipsing it up,
so it wasn't like it wasn't like proper, proper.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I was just like a kiss who made the first move?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think I did, Yeah, Yeah, I think I'm I'm
pretty sure I did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And we were like being a bit discreet about it too.
And then when we got back to Australia, I was like,
that's just a honeymoon little romance thing.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yes, easy, yeah to fall in love.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It is away from all your responsibilities, just like wherever.
And then we got back to Australia and I was
like listen, like this is just a honeymoon thing, Like
let's just go back into our normal things like like lives.
I've already just broken up with my previous ex girlfriend.
I'm not really ready to be like diving straight into
a new relationship sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But like you know that you cannot get into a
relationship right now, like you have so much work coming
up that would just jeopardize a relationship anyway.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That's right, And that's always in the back of my head. Ye,
no matter who went me, I've always got this thing
like like we'll see when it goes a little bit
of fun or whatever. But then in the back of
the head, I'm like, I'm never like one hundred and
ten percent committed because like I know what's coming and
I know what I've got lined up, which like is
my job.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yes, and she knew about that, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, so she did you not tell her?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I did tell her that I had stuff coming up?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But did you miss out some fine I miss.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh my god, oh god? What do guys? Just one question?
Why do guys tell girls what they want to hear?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Like, I don't get it, because it's like not like
you're going to get anything out of it apart from
a big fat fucking mess.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Anyway, That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, trust me, I know I've been through it that
many times so stupid.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He's like, yeah, bye bub' so on love we do
you want to get married and have two kids? You're like,
oh fucking no, why I tell her that.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, now it's gonna be worse and harder for me.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I know something I need to work on.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's a thing in their brain that just goes just
tell her everything she wants to hear.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So yeah, like I met up with her just air
drops some fours and then again it just progressed. We
ended up going to like pack Fair shopping center. Then
we're having four doors with Santa again. Yeah, and then
she's printing out like we're printing out all.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The four doors and she said, isn't a frame?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And then we had them in like a globe with
the snow and all this, and I don't believe in
being like what is happening? Like things are moving mad
and I don't even mean for it to be happening
this way. Yeah, but I'm comfortable and I'm happy doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So it progressed.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Probably fun in the moment.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, And we had a good time, and then
we obviously spent a couple of months together. But then
in the back of my head, I was like I
knew I had stuff coming up, so it's hard for
me to like fully commit. Yeah, and then I started,
you know, being like less trustworthy, less loyal, and it
was just kind of like on a downward spiral and
it ended up just becoming so toxic. So we just
kind of, yeah, pied ways.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But do you think you made it toxic or was
it you guys as a collective?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Nah, it was.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
She was perfect in that sense, Like it was all
on my end, Like I was traveling off of work,
you know, I was seeing my ex a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
She knew about it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Take.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, and then at that point I was like, you
know what, when we did like break up, I was like,
this is probably for the best. I was like there
was so much parts of the relationship that were missing
that I didn't realize until I was actually out of
the relationship. So I guess I just like learned what
I want in a partner and what like I don't
want and how to move in future relationships.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, but did you ever have the conversation or did
she find a whole heap of shit and then she
was the one to be like this is done.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, Yeah, it was pretty much that, and then I
wasn't even like there wasn't a part of me that
was like, oh, like, let's try to make it work.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And then I was like, yeah, okay, sweet like this.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And it was the most abrupt, perfect breakup in that sense.
I was like done, easy, happy days, move on. But
then the tiktoks and everything started coming out, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's something expected, bruh, Like you're gonna fuck around, then
play the price. But I think for me, if I
were ever to go through a breakup publicly, I would
want to stay away from that because I feel like
it's just a whole lot of drama and then it
opens it up for people to have their opinion and
it's not healthy and it's probably really hurtful for you
(14:08):
and her for people to have their.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Opinions on it. But I just want to say this
one thing.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I'm such a girl's girl and I've got massive girl code.
I saw her out at the path one night and
she was like really stressing. She's like, oh, sky, Col's
not replying to me, like he's at a what do
you what are they? Yeah, he's at an appearance, And
I'm like, oh, babe, don't worry about it, like he
left before me.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Last time, he's tame as buck, Like you.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Were in the room on your phone, on the phone
to your girl, and I'm like bashing on the door,
like get the fuck up, it's good anyway. And then
I'm like nah, babe, like reassuring her. And then the
next time I saw you, You're like, yeah, I was
kind of fucking around, and I'm like, fuck sake, I
just broke the girl phone.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, But I was just like, ah, I had nothing.
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Obviously we weren't speaking at that time, so I didn't
really have I didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But I felt like you were just in the situation
where you're like, I'm just going to keep fucking up
and fucking up, so I don't have to be the
one to call it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And then it did. She eventually just like called it,
and I wasn't like, oh, like sorry, Like I was
obviously apologetic, but I wasn't like, oh, let's make it work,
let's make work. I was like okay, like it was
only two messes. In the breakup, it was like I'm
done with you sort of thing. Blah bla blah, And I
was like, all right, if you everyone like full closure,
I can tell you. And she's like, I know everything.
I've seen all your messages. So I was kind of like, alright,
let's just leave it that. It was like a really
(15:28):
smooth breakup in that sense.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I'm proud of her for putting her foot down, yeah,
because that was wrong of you. But I also love
that you're not trying to hide any of your actions.
You're like, this is what I did. You're owning it.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, And you're like, I know that I've hurt someone
and I know that it wasn't the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I'm glad that you have learned from this. Yeah,
and you're in a good place now. And it's probably
a good thing that you haven't clapped back online because
it would make you probably look bad.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, I understand. And I feel like any breakups, I
don't see the need to do all that sort of
social media stuff because not only is it like dragging
out the breakup and prolonging everything, Like if if you know,
if I was to like post lords of stuff online
about my ex, right, and then how do I expect
to like meet somebody else. So if I was to
meet like, say Doris and she sees my instagram, Karen, Yeah,
(16:24):
just and like she goes my Instagram and like she's like, what,
he's obviously still hooked on his ex. Like, how do
you expect to like meet more people? Do you know
what I mean? Like, I wouldn't touch a bird if
she's got like all these posts and stuff about her ex,
I'd be like, she's still caught up on his ex.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Leave her alone?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, I yeah, who knows?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I feel like it was hurtful what you did.
So naughty, naughty.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I do not condone that behavior, but it's good that
you have learnt from it and you're like, look, I'm
not going to do that again.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You obviously didn't want to continue hurting her. That's why
you were like, this has to stop.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, right.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Proud of you for being honest. And I have one
question to ask because everyone else is asking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
To the little s bracelet that you've been wearing, what
is the ghost?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So we that was a gift from Sasha on Christmas.
We both had Yeah, we had match ones. She had
a c on hers. I had an S on mine. Yeah,
and then obviously when we broke up, I was like, oh,
I'm gonna do this brace that now. So I actually
went back into the same shop and changed the S
for the C and it literally broke this morning. It's
in the car, so I'm going to go back and
(17:28):
get it re sold.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Rolls or something fired on do.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
A special word face stats and s. I think it
ends with d sold dud salt. I don't know, but
you know what I'm saying, we're not professional. That's the
story of the brace Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, okay, so but you said you were wearing it
in a photo, but it was an old photo.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That you there.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah yeah, so like everyone online went banana.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They still thought you guys were saying.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah yeah, and it was just like a candid for
it all. Like I didn't even pay attention to the bracelet.
But you know how people are like online, they just
like a little minute sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I know, they pick everything. Yeah, like oh I think
I know what's going on, and it's like notes.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But to be fair, even when I did poust that
for or they s was the yes was actually still
on my wrist at that time. Anyway, that was like
my sort of sign like all right, I need actually
changed this now, like I need to put the sea
on there.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, people were popping off. I would have just
left it.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I would have been like, yeah, this is the time
in my life, all right. I dated a really pretty girl.
Her name was Sasha, started with s.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
What do you want from me?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I'm glad that it was a bracelet. I'm not a tattoo,
because I would be up shit street it was a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Would you ever get a tattoo?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I've thought about it, yeah, or like yeah, I've thought
about it, but that's red hot because if shit goes south,
you've got ink permanently on your wrist.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
In it or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That would actually kill me. Actually locking his ex got
like a matching tatoo.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Not he didn't get her name, but they got a
matching tatoo, and like, yeah, kind of irked me at
the start, But now I'm like, I don't care, So
you still got.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It on now?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
How calm? So good?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, but I was not. I used to be a
full blown psycho. We can talk about that. Used to.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Now I'm so chill because I'm like eight years into
my relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, time goes on.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But I know how it would feel if like you
started dating a guy and he had a girls in
his ex's name, I'd be like, oh, yeah, Tracy, Yeah,
tell us about Tracy.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Huh yeah good. There's good lasers out there these days.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But I don't think it comes off completely though, you know,
I think it stays on a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, it's a bit risky. It's a bit Germany tatoos.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
No, you don't put stickers on a Ferrari sky.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's fun for sicker on a Bentley No, but no.
I love like little dainty tattoos on girls. I think
it's hot, and I think guys with tattoos look great too.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But I'm like, I don't think it would suit me.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, same, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I could pull it off. You're the same. It would
just not be right me.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But I feel like if I did end up having one,
it'd be full chat and I'd be covered.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Head at all.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's like, I would have all my ex's names on me.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
There's not enough skin.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
True that Okay, So how are you feeling about the breakup?
Are you're over it? Are you all good now?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, I'm I'm in the best place like that I've
been in a long time, you know, Like I feel
like every relationship that you have, every breakup that you
go through, you just kind of learn a bit more
about yourself and like what you want and what sort
of alignes with you. And honestly, I've never felt better.
I've got no responsibilities when I'm doing my work on
the weekends, doing the club of instance, and so forth.
Like I've got no pressure. I don't have to text
(20:37):
somebody to reassure somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Or any of that. I'm just living now and it's
like I'm in a good place. I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, it would be hard to have someone blowing up
your phone, you know, stressing and you put them through.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That either exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Do you think you would ever reach out to her
and maybe be like I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Sorry or oh, obviously I apologize, like when we were
in the world breakup, Yeah, of course, good job, thanks mate.
But if I saw if I saw, if I saw
slush it out, no, I wouldn't be like, how are you? Like,
I just keep moving do my thing, you know, like
I'm not one to hold onto grudges and stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I feel the same.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Like, if I ever saw an X out, regardless of
what we've been through or how they treated me or
how I treated them, I feel like I would just
be like, hey, mate, how are you going?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Like yeah, yeah, you don't really know them anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's like you had a you know, short period of
time with them. I feel like it's easier just to
have respect and not hold.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
On to n.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I feel like it depends on how long the relationship
is as well, you know, like I was was like
literally two months, Like it was very short. It was
very short. I don't have as much feeling towards it.
It's not like I've been with somebody for like, you know,
five years, and then it's just like a lot more
weight to it. It's kind of like it was a
time and it's passed like whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And it was so hard for you to or it
would have been hard for both of you because like everyone.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It was so public and everyone had.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
So many opinions on you and her and you guys together.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
It's hard because that was my first relationship in the public.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, you normally date girls who don't.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Have social Yeah, low key birds, That's what I usually
go for, you know, And you know you'd get the
same with LOCKI.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Like, I've seen stories normally.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
But I've seen stories like on numerous occasions with yourself
and Locky.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You know, it's like people just like they love it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They love it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Not being a part of your relationship and feeling like
they know every detail.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And I feel like it does have an impact, especially
if you're one hundred percent happy in relationship.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
The fact that you've got.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
All the public eyes on you and like have this expectation,
it puts you in a litt bit of pressure to
like make it work.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
There's even times where Lockie's being upset and been like, oh,
you know, this person said this, and I'm you know
that hurts me, And I'm like, well shit, it's hard
for me to control what other people are saying.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
But it does get to your relationship.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Even though I don't want to let people know that
because it's annoying and I don't want them to keep commenting,
but it does put pressure and strain on the relationship.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
But I feel like, then again, you've been with Locky
for such a long time now, you can like almost
see if you've been through it enough and you've seen
it enough to like just brush it to the side,
where like for me it was my first time, so
like everything that would pop up or if I was
seeing the type of way, I wouldn't want to like
speak about it with Sasha because I'd be like, you know,
the pressure of the public, keep the public happy, like
almost you know.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No way, I feel like you've got to put yourself first.
I know what you're saying. Yeah, thank you so much
for being raw and honest.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And you know that's what you can expect.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's what you can expect from Sky and Kel's podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
All right, guys, that's a wrap.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
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Speaker 3 (23:54):
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This podcast was recorded on Buddy lung Land and produced
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
My old Sue eyes bro.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Teams Kangee is pretty Yankee.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All Right, we're on.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Bring yu.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hi, guys, Welcome to Sky and Cal's podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
First one episode, one Episode one, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's a long time come in, but we're on.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Finally, We've had our coffees, our energy drinks.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We're ready to rumble.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
So I'm SCA Murrie Wheatley. Some of you may know
me from Big Brother. I'm a celebrity Instagram. I am
a little bit of an influencer these days. I'm a
mom of two, live on the Gold Coast, born and
bred and yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's a little bit about me. One about Ukel.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, Carlum Hall. I was born in the UK, South Wales.
I moved over here when i was eighteen, think on
my eighteenth birthday and i've been here since. I've done
a few shows here in Australia, Love Island. I'm a
celeb Aussie Shaw and then you know the Dealer or
nor Dealers and all that sort of jazz.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Oh yeah we did that together.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah we did Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
But then other than I do a little bit of
social media as well, but no, I needed to the
extent that you do it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Obviously, I am the queen Queens Queen.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So let's talk about how we met.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Okay, So, for all you guys, I don't know whole
Sky and myself met.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We actually met on. We were a celeb.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We weren't separated at birth. I know a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Thing that, yeah we met the first time.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
The Jungler, Yeah, we are brother and sister.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But in another life, yeah, in another life. Oh yeah,
so we met on I'm a celebrity. And the funny
thing was, I had watched every single Love Island, like
what are they called seasons? I'd watch every single season
except for your And when you came in, I'm like,
who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm like, I don't know. And then I was like,
are you the love Brat? You were like, I guess so.
And you literally reminded me of Michael Finch, like a
buff bunny version of Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Don't get me started on micro Finch. I do not
see the resemblance whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Honestly, maybe just think it might be the eyebrows sharp bros.
Because he had Yeah, because obviously he was into makeup
and he manicured his brows really well, so maybe I
just looked straight at the eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm like, oh, hello, Michael Finch. Hello.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But yeah, we we had that short interaction and then
we didn't really talk for like two days or something.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
We were like in our own little groups.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Like everyone was like in a group, but we were
just like floating on every group that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
But then we we had a really good chat maybe
four days in and I was like, oh shit, this
guy's like my brother.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I was like, you're the female version of me, and
this is actually really weird.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, but it was nice to have someone like you
in there because normally I always feel like.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
A lone wolf on the reality TV shows. I'm like,
oh god, I'm like the young, annoying dumb. Yes, obviously
that's great for TV, but I do feel like a
little bit of an outsider.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So it was nice to have someone that I really
clicked with and could resonate with.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So yeah, that was how we met.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I remember the first time I walked in because we
were in two different camps. Remember the first time when
like the whole the two camps came together. Yes, I
remember like seeing you for the first time, I thought, yes,
this is mad. She's gonna help me past some time.
Could be risen here For the next couple of weeks
of the Jung You're halfy days, they literally talked me
like a couple of hours, and I was like, she's
like my sister.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then I was like why was I thinking that?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
On one He's like, oh, this is brilliantsane.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Not the one we were having just a little conversation
or one of the beds, and I was like Sky, like,
what's the biggest word you know?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Oh, that's right, And you said some words patalely antologists.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, but you didn't really even know what it meant.
Not all then.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, I was like I can spell it, and You're
like all right, go and I'm like, actually, I haven't
spelt it in a while.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was like yeah that moment, I was like, she's
like the girl version of me.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This is crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah. Actual.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And then that viral clip of you being like I
think I'm got a tip and I'm like where show me?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And I'm like, yeah, bra, you do on your head.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Everyone else around me was like supportive and was like,
oh like you, and you're just like making that as worse,
like that's fucked.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I got tick in your head.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I wouldn't want to be you sort of thing, and
I'm like, that's exactly what I would do in any situations.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Support I'm like, oh my god, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
That was That was one of the most like let
me clear, because I was like, you're like me in
the sense that you have this utmost confidence.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Like say exactly what you want to say.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, you say it straight away. Then like when you
get questions about it, you're just like, oh, not really
that shoe.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, You're like, oh shit, I don't know what I
was saying. I'm so sorry, but they're like.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, we got along soul, and I feel like as
the show went on and the group got smaller, we
became like.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Clo, Yeah, it was really good. It was so good
to be in the top three with you.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I don't think I would have changed to was in
the top three No, nor way.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Wait.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Even though Tristan and I weren't like tight, getting to
know him towards the end was really nice and then having.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You there that was like my comfort.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, okay, we can be like chill,
be relaxed and be ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And I knew that, like, the longer you're in there
with me, the less chance I have of doing the trial.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I was like, just.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I know, Oh, when I just kept getting chosen, I'm like,
are you serious? But it was like a good and
bad thing. I guess because I knew it was like
the public wanted to see.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
We got chosen a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think, yeah, do you have twelve trials? And I
think eleven?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes, something ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But I thought that people hated me. That's why I
was getting vaulted. I was like, I'm not doing anything wrong,
Like why do Australia hate me?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
No? I think they they thought you were very entertaining.
But yeah, I am so glad that we were both
on that show because I watch it back and I'm like, fuck,
we did good.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Like I feel like the show was what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That sounds up myself. I don't want to sound like,
you know, we carried the show.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But I might.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I feel like it was such a good cast.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, and it was so good that we were on
there together because I feel like the show was so
fun and just like they needed that.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
With shows like that, it's all about the cast, because
the cast, Micky Real.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, exactly, they make the whole show.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I feel like it was a really good cast,
and you're the only one I speak to out of it.
Out of everyone, I don't really keep in contact with anyone.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's hard that thaughrn it because like, no one's got
time really to like finish a reality show and have
like thirty new friends.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I know, it's go back to your normal life.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah life, Frankie, like you were no man.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
He ghasted me. Yeah, but he said while we were
in there, he's.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Like, I would not keep in contact with anyone from
a show. And I get it, like I didn't keep
in contact with anyone from Big Brother or I'm a
celebrity or any of the reality things that I've done.
I think because we the reason why we've stayed in
contact is because obviously we're you.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Know, similar, similar, and.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We're in business together.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Now, you know, real dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Dumb and dumber.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
We're about to Who's dumb?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We're about to film a sequel of Dumb and Dumber.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know who's doumbe whos dumber? But I gotta
feed in it. I'm dumb and your dumber.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah probably, yes, actually no, you guys, can you guys
let us know who he thinks dumber?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But yeah, that's how we.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Met and glad we did because look where we are
now and we've got so much more fun to experience. Okay,
we are going to be deep diving into the drum roll.
(08:04):
Not that that's like a happy thing, and I'm not
like smiling because it is. It's always sad when you
part ways with someone. But I feel like, yeah, a
lot of people want to know. I get asked about it.
People are like, oh my god, what happened? And I'm like, yo,
not my business.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
To tea, staying well away from it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I don't love the drama.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Same, I hate it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I hate the people want the tea.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The people on the tea. So we're going to dive in.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, what are you comfortable sharing? What happened? How did
you meet?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Okay, so we running back to when we first met. Yeah,
we were on a brand trip in Fiji. Yeah, there
was a group of influencers. We're in Fiji for a
week and by chance, Sashi and I were on the
same flight. We traveled all the way out to Fiji
to the island together. When we got there, we were
actually told that we were staying in the same villa.
Everyone else already had their villas allocated.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'd be ranging, I like, get me the fuck out of.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
The d I mean, it was a bit weird because, like,
you know, you'd think that, like, you know, a couple
of the boys would be together and the girls to
be together, and you know, we were the last ones there,
so it was just kind of like you're in the
same villa. Sash and I were cool with it, and
we just kind of stayed there. But then as the
trip went on, were there for like a week, we
started to get like closer and closer like every day
because like we spend every day, every night together.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
But were you kind of just thinking it was a friendship?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I was.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I was thinking it was a friendship, but then I
don't know, it was like it felt so comfortable so
early on, and everything just started to like progress into
a little bit more than a friendship.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But we weren't looking up anything.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, it's easy to you know, have a relationship with
someone you feel comfortable with and like if your personalities are.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Vibing, yeah, it's it's not like pressure, right, Like we're
just like friends.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And now's the trip like started to unfold.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
We were doing all these like you know, day trips
and stuff, and Sash and I found ourselves like doing
more sit together like we'd be as a group, but
it would always be like sash Ni golding there together
or like doing the activities together or leaving early together.
And then like the last night, I started lipsing it up,
so it wasn't like it wasn't like proper, proper.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I was just like a kiss who made the first move?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think I did, Yeah, Yeah, I think I'm I'm
pretty sure I did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And we were like being a bit discreet about it too.
And then when we got back to Australia, I was like,
that's just a honeymoon little romance thing.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yes, easy, yeah to fall in love.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It is away from all your responsibilities, just like wherever.
And then we got back to Australia and I was
like listen, like this is just a honeymoon thing, Like
let's just go back into our normal things like like lives.
I've already just broken up with my previous ex girlfriend.
I'm not really ready to be like diving straight into
a new relationship sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But like you know that you cannot get into a
relationship right now, like you have so much work coming
up that would just jeopardize a relationship anyway.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
That's right, And that's always in the back of my head. Ye,
no matter who went me, I've always got this thing
like like we'll see when it goes a little bit
of fun or whatever. But then in the back of
the head, I'm like, I'm never like one hundred and
ten percent committed because like I know what's coming and
I know what I've got lined up, which like is
my job.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yes, and she knew about that, right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, so she did you not tell her?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I did tell her that I had stuff coming up?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But did you miss out some fine I miss.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh my god, oh god? What do guys? Just one question?
Why do guys tell girls what they want to hear?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Like, I don't get it, because it's like not like
you're going to get anything out of it apart from
a big fat fucking mess.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Anyway, That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, trust me, I know I've been through it that
many times so stupid.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He's like, yeah, bye bub' so on love we do
you want to get married and have two kids? You're like,
oh fucking no, why I tell her that.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, now it's gonna be worse and harder for me.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I know something I need to work on.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's a thing in their brain that just goes just
tell her everything she wants to hear.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So yeah, like I met up with her just air
drops some fours and then again it just progressed. We
ended up going to like pack Fair shopping center. Then
we're having four doors with Santa again. Yeah, and then
she's printing out like we're printing out all.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
The four doors and she said, isn't a frame?
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And then we had them in like a globe with
the snow and all this, and I don't believe in
being like what is happening? Like things are moving mad
and I don't even mean for it to be happening
this way. Yeah, but I'm comfortable and I'm happy doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So it progressed.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Probably fun in the moment.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, And we had a good time, and then
we obviously spent a couple of months together. But then
in the back of my head, I was like I
knew I had stuff coming up, so it's hard for
me to like fully commit. Yeah, and then I started,
you know, being like less trustworthy, less loyal, and it
was just kind of like on a downward spiral and
it ended up just becoming so toxic. So we just
kind of, yeah, pied ways.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But do you think you made it toxic or was
it you guys as a collective?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Nah, it was.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
She was perfect in that sense, Like it was all
on my end, Like I was traveling off of work,
you know, I was seeing my ex a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
She knew about it.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Take.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, and then at that point I was like, you
know what, when we did like break up, I was like,
this is probably for the best. I was like there
was so much parts of the relationship that were missing
that I didn't realize until I was actually out of
the relationship. So I guess I just like learned what
I want in a partner and what like I don't
want and how to move in future relationships.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, but did you ever have the conversation or did
she find a whole heap of shit and then she
was the one to be like this is done.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, Yeah, it was pretty much that, and then I
wasn't even like there wasn't a part of me that
was like, oh, like, let's try to make it work.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And then I was like, yeah, okay, sweet like this.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And it was the most abrupt, perfect breakup in that sense.
I was like done, easy, happy days, move on. But
then the tiktoks and everything started coming out, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's something expected, bruh, Like you're gonna fuck around, then
play the price. But I think for me, if I
were ever to go through a breakup publicly, I would
want to stay away from that because I feel like
it's just a whole lot of drama and then it
opens it up for people to have their opinion and
it's not healthy and it's probably really hurtful for you
(14:08):
and her for people to have their.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Opinions on it. But I just want to say this
one thing.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I'm such a girl's girl and I've got massive girl code.
I saw her out at the path one night and
she was like really stressing. She's like, oh, sky, Col's
not replying to me, like he's at a what do
you what are they? Yeah, he's at an appearance, And
I'm like, oh, babe, don't worry about it, like he
left before me.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Last time, he's tame as buck, Like you.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Were in the room on your phone, on the phone
to your girl, and I'm like bashing on the door,
like get the fuck up, it's good anyway. And then
I'm like nah, babe, like reassuring her. And then the
next time I saw you, You're like, yeah, I was
kind of fucking around, and I'm like, fuck sake, I
just broke the girl phone.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, But I was just like, ah, I had nothing.
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Obviously we weren't speaking at that time, so I didn't
really have I didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But I felt like you were just in the situation
where you're like, I'm just going to keep fucking up
and fucking up, so I don't have to be the
one to call it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And then it did. She eventually just like called it,
and I wasn't like, oh, like sorry, Like I was
obviously apologetic, but I wasn't like, oh, let's make it work,
let's make work. I was like okay, like it was
only two messes. In the breakup, it was like I'm
done with you sort of thing. Blah bla blah, And I
was like, all right, if you everyone like full closure,
I can tell you. And she's like, I know everything.
I've seen all your messages. So I was kind of like, alright,
let's just leave it that. It was like a really
(15:28):
smooth breakup in that sense.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, I'm proud of her for putting her foot down, yeah,
because that was wrong of you. But I also love
that you're not trying to hide any of your actions.
You're like, this is what I did. You're owning it.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, And you're like, I know that I've hurt someone
and I know that it wasn't the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I'm glad that you have learned from this. Yeah,
and you're in a good place now. And it's probably
a good thing that you haven't clapped back online because
it would make you probably look bad.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah, I understand. And I feel like any breakups, I
don't see the need to do all that sort of
social media stuff because not only is it like dragging
out the breakup and prolonging everything, Like if if you know,
if I was to like post lords of stuff online
about my ex, right, and then how do I expect
to like meet somebody else. So if I was to
meet like, say Doris and she sees my instagram, Karen, Yeah,
(16:24):
just and like she goes my Instagram and like she's like, what,
he's obviously still hooked on his ex. Like, how do
you expect to like meet more people? Do you know
what I mean? Like, I wouldn't touch a bird if
she's got like all these posts and stuff about her ex,
I'd be like, she's still caught up on his ex.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Leave her alone?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, I yeah, who knows?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I feel like it was hurtful what you did.
So naughty, naughty.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I do not condone that behavior, but it's good that
you have learnt from it and you're like, look, I'm
not going to do that again.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You obviously didn't want to continue hurting her. That's why
you were like, this has to stop.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, right.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Proud of you for being honest. And I have one
question to ask because everyone else is asking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
To the little s bracelet that you've been wearing, what
is the ghost?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So we that was a gift from Sasha on Christmas.
We both had Yeah, we had match ones. She had
a c on hers. I had an S on mine. Yeah,
and then obviously when we broke up, I was like, oh,
I'm gonna do this brace that now. So I actually
went back into the same shop and changed the S
for the C and it literally broke this morning. It's
in the car, so I'm going to go back and
(17:28):
get it re sold.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Rolls or something fired on do.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
A special word face stats and s. I think it
ends with d sold dud salt. I don't know, but
you know what I'm saying, we're not professional. That's the
story of the brace Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, okay, so but you said you were wearing it
in a photo, but it was an old photo.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
That you there.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah yeah, so like everyone online went banana.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
They still thought you guys were saying.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah yeah, and it was just like a candid for
it all. Like I didn't even pay attention to the bracelet.
But you know how people are like online, they just
like a little minute sort of.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I know, they pick everything. Yeah, like oh I think
I know what's going on, and it's like notes.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But to be fair, even when I did poust that
for or they s was the yes was actually still
on my wrist at that time. Anyway, that was like
my sort of sign like all right, I need actually
changed this now, like I need to put the sea
on there.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, people were popping off. I would have just
left it.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I would have been like, yeah, this is the time
in my life, all right. I dated a really pretty girl.
Her name was Sasha, started with s.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
What do you want from me?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I'm glad that it was a bracelet. I'm not a tattoo,
because I would be up shit street it was a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Would you ever get a tattoo?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I've thought about it, yeah, or like yeah, I've thought
about it, but that's red hot because if shit goes south,
you've got ink permanently on your wrist.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
In it or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That would actually kill me. Actually locking his ex got
like a matching tatoo.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Not he didn't get her name, but they got a
matching tatoo, and like, yeah, kind of irked me at
the start, But now I'm like, I don't care, So
you still got.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It on now?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
How calm? So good?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, but I was not. I used to be a
full blown psycho. We can talk about that. Used to.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Now I'm so chill because I'm like eight years into
my relationship.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, time goes on.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But I know how it would feel if like you
started dating a guy and he had a girls in
his ex's name, I'd be like, oh, yeah, Tracy, Yeah,
tell us about Tracy.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Huh yeah good. There's good lasers out there these days.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But I don't think it comes off completely though, you know,
I think it stays on a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, it's a bit risky. It's a bit Germany tatoos.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
No, you don't put stickers on a Ferrari sky.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's fun for sicker on a Bentley No, but no.
I love like little dainty tattoos on girls. I think
it's hot, and I think guys with tattoos look great too.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
But I'm like, I don't think it would suit me.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, same, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I could pull it off. You're the same. It would
just not be right me.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But I feel like if I did end up having one,
it'd be full chat and I'd be covered.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Head at all.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's like, I would have all my ex's names on me.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
There's not enough skin.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
True that Okay, So how are you feeling about the breakup?
Are you're over it? Are you all good now?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, I'm I'm in the best place like that I've
been in a long time, you know, Like I feel
like every relationship that you have, every breakup that you
go through, you just kind of learn a bit more
about yourself and like what you want and what sort
of alignes with you. And honestly, I've never felt better.
I've got no responsibilities when I'm doing my work on
the weekends, doing the club of instance, and so forth.
Like I've got no pressure. I don't have to text
(20:37):
somebody to reassure somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Or any of that. I'm just living now and it's
like I'm in a good place. I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, it would be hard to have someone blowing up
your phone, you know, stressing and you put them through.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
That either exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Do you think you would ever reach out to her
and maybe be like I'm.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Sorry or oh, obviously I apologize, like when we were
in the world breakup, Yeah, of course, good job, thanks mate.
But if I saw if I saw, if I saw
slush it out, no, I wouldn't be like, how are you? Like,
I just keep moving do my thing, you know, like
I'm not one to hold onto grudges and stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, I feel the same.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Like, if I ever saw an X out, regardless of
what we've been through or how they treated me or
how I treated them, I feel like I would just
be like, hey, mate, how are you going?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Like yeah, yeah, you don't really know them anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's like you had a you know, short period of
time with them. I feel like it's easier just to
have respect and not hold.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
On to n.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I feel like it depends on how long the relationship
is as well, you know, like I was was like
literally two months, Like it was very short. It was
very short. I don't have as much feeling towards it.
It's not like I've been with somebody for like, you know,
five years, and then it's just like a lot more
weight to it. It's kind of like it was a
time and it's passed like whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And it was so hard for you to or it
would have been hard for both of you because like everyone.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It was so public and everyone had.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
So many opinions on you and her and you guys together.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
It's hard because that was my first relationship in the public.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, you normally date girls who don't.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Have social Yeah, low key birds, That's what I usually
go for, you know, And you know you'd get the
same with LOCKI.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Like, I've seen stories normally.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
But I've seen stories like on numerous occasions with yourself
and Locky.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You know, it's like people just like they love it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They love it, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Not being a part of your relationship and feeling like
they know every detail.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And I feel like it does have an impact, especially
if you're one hundred percent happy in relationship.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
The fact that you've got.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
All the public eyes on you and like have this expectation,
it puts you in a litt bit of pressure to
like make it work.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
There's even times where Lockie's being upset and been like, oh,
you know, this person said this, and I'm you know
that hurts me, And I'm like, well shit, it's hard
for me to control what other people are saying.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
But it does get to your relationship.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Even though I don't want to let people know that
because it's annoying and I don't want them to keep commenting,
but it does put pressure and strain on the relationship.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
But I feel like, then again, you've been with Locky
for such a long time now, you can like almost
see if you've been through it enough and you've seen
it enough to like just brush it to the side,
where like for me it was my first time, so
like everything that would pop up or if I was
seeing the type of way, I wouldn't want to like
speak about it with Sasha because I'd be like, you know,
the pressure of the public, keep the public happy, like
almost you know.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No way, I feel like you've got to put yourself first.
I know what you're saying. Yeah, thank you so much
for being raw and honest.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And you know that's what you can expect.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's what you can expect from Sky and Kel's podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
All right, guys, that's a wrap.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Make sure you subscribe to our podcast if you want
to hear more, and follow the action on Instagram at
Sky and Carlum podcast and if you want to ask
us any questions chat to our producers. You can email
us anytime at Sky and Calum at NorVa podcasts dot
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Speaker 3 (23:54):
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