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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This podcast was recorded on Buddy along Land and produced
in Now. All right we're on.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Bring a Hi guys. We welcome back to this guy
and col podcast. Today's episode will be a little bit
more personal, so hopefully you guys like this. But let's
start straight in cal tell us a bit more about
your family.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm super close my family, Like my family is like
my rock, you know. Yeah, since coming to Australia, like
I've got even closer with my immediate family, which is
really good, you know. But like since like growing up,
like my family, I've always had that close like London, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Like I would be pretty open with my parents.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
They know exactly what's going on, and it's been that
way since since day dot, you know. But yeah, obviously
when we came to Australia, we came as a family.
Oh that and apart from my sister. My sister actually
didn't come with us because she was a bit apprehensive
about moving country. But I was eighteenth, eighteenth birthday, I
was like I want to just do.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm shut shut ye go.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know, And then I got your and you know,
everything just fell into place. But then obviously I don't
have my extended family here and I haven't had my
extended family for a very long time, which just meant
that my actual mother and father and my sister, like
we got even closer, you know, because it's just us.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So your sister did eventually, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
She came over like a year later.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Okay, she actually came out for a holiday first because
she was still like a bit scared. Then once she
got you, she was like, this is like a holiday.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, like beautiful, like Gold Coast nothing compared.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, anywhere in Australia. I just feel like it's Australians
like take it for granted. And I feel like I
started to taking for granted as well until I go
away from the Gold Coast or like Australian. I come
back and like this is actually where I live, Like
this is so good, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, it just feels like home.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, Like I do miss my extended family, but so.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You're close with them too, Yeah yeah I am.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I am.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's easier this day and age when you move country
to still be in contact, you know with FaceTime and
fat your calls and stuff, like you don't need to
be in person to continue to like have that relationship,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, but it's so good that your mom and dad
and your sister here now.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, and they do the most for me and they
support me through like whatever it is that I do.
Like even before going on TV, like my mother was like,
don't ever do it because you're a little bit stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Sometimes and some of the stuff that comes out your mouth. Correct.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, she was worried. But my dad was like he's
very much like I'm very much like my dad. He
was just like, just do it. You got nothing to lose.
And I was like, you know what, even coming to Australia,
that was my mentality, like I can always go back
to the UK and I can't have this opportunity again.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So I did it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And yeah, like I'm so close to them now you're
course with your.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yes, so close with my mom. My dad's not really
in the picture, but like my mom is, my dad,
my grandma, my grandpa, my Yeah, she's like literally every
family member wrapped it up into one. She's like the
best human you'll ever meet. I was gonna say, your
dad's a fucking legend. Yeah, And I feel like your
bond was really cute, Like that would be something I
(03:07):
would that type of bond I would love to have
with my dad. But yeah, I'm really close with my
mum and my sister, and growing up, it would it
would just be us three. And I feel like my
sister's a little bit more, you know, finding her feet
and her own you know, sort of path. Yes, she's
on her own sort of path. But I feel like
(03:29):
once she gets a bit older and you know, settles
into her own, I feel like we'll come back together.
How old is she She is twenty four? Yeah, so,
but I was twenty four when I had Forest, which
is wild is crazy, that's young.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But going back to what you were saying before with
your mom, like her being a little bit worried you
going on TV. I do think that's like a protective thing.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
My mom struggled so much when I was on Big Brother,
just like with the hate and like they.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Want to stick up for you, but they can't.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Really just one person. Yeah, but your mom stressed out
watching you on Love Island.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
No, she was cool, she was Yeah, she was like
she obviously just saw the clip bits and stuff like that.
The only show she really like committed to watching was
The Jungle because it's more of like a family based
show and she loved that. But my mother's more reserves
than my dad. So my mother the thought of my
mother being on TV and stuff was like not a thing,
like not even a thought, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Really, So he was like, yeah, I'll go and yeah,
and my dad was like.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I'm coming free whole day so Africa sign me up.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Him and Lucky you like Buddy Buddies yea yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But then I think after my dad and I came
back to Australia, I think my mother kind of like
wishes she had actually done it then as well.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I come out to see.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Me, but she's like doing something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, my mother is like very reserved, you know, like
she goes mad with when I'm filming in the house
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Like oh I got like no I don't get the
washing phone.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
But she's the sweetest person, and you know she she
does the more she's like, the more nurturing, like loving
care and mother like I wouldn't change your like for
the world. Yeah, she's the best. She's like she's a
rocket house.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Moms are the best. Like if you're a mama, you're
a fucking superstar. It's hard to you know, not feel
guilt and like feel bad about every little thing that
you do. But I'm like no, you know what, Like
being a mom and a parent is like such a
big responsibility. Like you're doing the best you can, so
for all the parents out there, you're doing an amazing job.
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Your sister's a mom, isn't she.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, my sister's and mom. Yeah, she had a baby, Zara,
like about.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
A year ago.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
How do you go if you ever a baby baby Zara?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, like only in like a group saiding like I love.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Babies, call them alone with the baby.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, Like she's so cute. Like it's weird when you
have like is it I don't know it's niece. Yeah,
it's like weird when like you see like babies around
and stuff and you're like, oh, they're cute, they're cut,
they're cute. But when it's like your like family, like
your niece is like wow, like you're so.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Cute, you're just obsessed with them.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I would spend like she comes off for christmasself and
I have spent so much time with because she obviously
is in Sydney, so when she comes up, I go down.
I just prioritize spend as much time with her as
I can, but then like I get a bit scared.
I don't know how you do it because like babies
are as the best ever and when she starts crying
or shitting, I'm like, fucking get me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Out of your where's my sister? This is not the one?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Have you changed? Happy po?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
No? No, I heard a little like but on what's
constant room to make your start? Like I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I see that come fick.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That comes with age, you know, like how did you
go when you first had like forests and bed Were
you like what is going on?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Or did you just like move shit into it.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I've struggled with postnatal depression and it was such a
massive change. Like obviously I was in the baby bubble
and like so in love and obsessed with both kids,
but it's like, oh my fucking god, the actual like
it's just so much and it's so different to the
life that I had before. But yeah, you just love
your kids with everything. You're just like I would DAF
(07:04):
for you. I would daf for you.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So family is so important though, I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Think definitely, but I cannot imagine you being a dud
just yet.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So maybe when I when I take babies out out
in public, Like I took her to the beach. You're
not too long ago. The amount of birds stare at me.
They just must as all, I'm the sexiest dad ever.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, this is something that I get used to. It's
like walking the dog.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You when you walk a dog and like it was like,
oh my god, like that dog's so cute, but they
didn't attact to you. It's like on steroids when you've
got a baby in your arm.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Definitely. Women very attracted to a responsible man. I mean,
I don't know if it exists. Sorry, no first, but yeah,
I don't know. I feel like that is really hot
because if they're like, wow, that's a man taking care
of a baby.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, something about it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's a green flag.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You know. I felt like my relationship my parents got
better as I age.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
When I was younger, like it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
It was like the perfect household, like as good as
it gets, you know, like it was really good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But it got to a period where.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I was like, you know, you're eighteen, nineteen twenty and
you kind of just go through that face.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Where you're like I keep break away.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, you move out of home.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And you like start doing your own thing, and then
like your parents almost get like pushing aside a little bit.
But then I feel like once you get past that
sort of eighteen nineteen twenty ish, and then you start
to see your parents in a different light, and then
you really think about like what they've done for you.
Like I'm so I'm the closest to my parents now
than ever been, and I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Me too, me too, Like, oh, it was so sad
the other night. I went to dinner with mom and
she's like, you know, I'm not going to be here forever,
And like, in your mind, I know, I was like
doing fucking make me crazy, But like in your mind,
you're like they're going to be there forever, but they're not,
and like time goes so fast, and it's like we
don't realize how how short life is exactly, and like
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in our heads, we're like that's mom and Dad. They've
always been there and they always will be. But how
scary to think that, like they're gonna leave us on
our own our own turf one day and just be
like see, I'll be like I don't know what to do.
I'll my mom literally babies me like you would not
believe she does all of my taxes. She's like basically
(09:15):
my accountant. Like she is, she's holding the ship together.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
She's stilling the ship.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
She's stilling the ship. So she's like, are you gonna
die when I die? Because I don't think you can
stay alive. She's like, are you gonna be Okay? I'm like,
probably not.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, it's mad.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But when they do so much for you, I feel
like you don't learn how to do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah. Like I don't know how to put a washing
machine on.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh my god, cow, they don't.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
They scare me. I fucking time machines.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Browl, Like if you move out of home?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I do?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I have lived out of home? Okay, well I just
used to go to dry cleaners.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh okay, you're fair enough.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Like drop it off, picking up in a couple of hours,
job done, It's all foldless on, hang on in the cupboard.
Who's got time to put the powder ratiore in? What compartment?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Was?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I love it? And like I put the little pods
in and the things that make your washing smell nice,
and then when you put it in the dry it
makes your whole house smell good. I'm like, yes, I
love that. I like doing my own washing, do you,
But I feel like you will one day mature and
learn how to do things for yourself, because that's what
I've had to do moving out of home because my
mum literally wiped my ass for me, so I had
(10:27):
to learn how to do that when I moved out.
But now I feel like I'm doing well and I'm
like learning how to do shit on my own.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Just sinking from like.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Business perspective, Yeah right, Why would I want to spend
maybe an hour put in the colors because you can't
have like whites with darks or whatever it is, and
then like working that out, then putting it in for
like an hour and a half, then waiting for the finish,
fucking about taking it out, putting it on the line
for another couple of hours.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It might rain again always and I can.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Just drop it off on my way to the gym,
pick it up in a bit, Doris. Two hours later,
it's hung thanks stories hung straight the cupboard. Like think
about it, true, logically, it's like cooking food.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
In my brain, I'm like, I feel like it would
take more time to drive it to the dry clingers
and then pick it up. I don't know. Yeah, I
guess it's just I did convenience.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm all about convenience.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
If it works for you, man, then good for you.
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And they love me down there the dry King. They
give me sweets and dropped my clothes off as well.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They'd see you coming from a mile away. They're like
a right, one hundred dollars for one shirt.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
If I haven't moved over in my area, they're going
out of business.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Also, I wanted to ask you about schooling. How is
your schooling? How did you feel you when like, let's
talk a bit about that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
School for me was like a good time. It was
fun because I had all responsibilities. But actually like doing
homeworks and stuff, I know, not the one I was awful.
I was not academic at all. Me neither, and I
was gonna say, I can imagine you'd be the same.
But in meeting the threat, like being in the school
life like that was good, Like I love that and
I have the best memories.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, but doing school not for me, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I just did not understand what the fuck was going on?
What did they lose in every class? I'm like, I
don't know what's happening. Literally had no idea what was
going on.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
However, that's what I think about.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like now as I'm getting older and I'm doing like
my taxes and stuff, my coutant's like, oh, like you know,
you should be doing this, and it's almost like talking
down to me, like I should, like I'm stupid, I
should know yourself. And I'm like, why is my teachers
in school teaching me how to do algebra when I
don't even know what tax brackets I'm in?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Make that makes sense. The brain's not braining these teachers.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I just feel like educating people for specific stuff, but
not like real life stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I know, maybe I will change one day.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
But maybe you should become teachers and like spin the wheel.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
God will when you become a parent, you are a teacher.
I'm like, oh my god, I got to teach my
kids all this stuff that I I don't even know.
Like school was so hard for me, Like I was
diagnosed with ADHD and learning difficulties, so it was like
double wammy. I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't I
still can't read a clock, no joke.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Like no, but not many people can't.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Really that makes me feel really good.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Like the circle clock, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
The one with the hands, Like it would take me
a really long time to figure it out. And like
even when someone's like quarter past, I'm like like, yeah,
what a quarter past two? I'm like two fifteen?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, people.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like half past or like or ten two. I'm like,
oh my god, just say two thirty, twenty two, two
forty five.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Or you know, twenty two.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, I like what.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
There are things like that we should be taught.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Did you ever feel like such an outsider at school? Yeah?
I felt. I just felt like this, this this little
human who was just so different. I felt like an
alien at school. Like that's how I felt.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And actually you have smart people in your class at all?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh well, just like average learners. And everyone was an
average learner or really smart, but there wasn't like that
one person who was really dumb apart from me.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, And I don't want to say dumb because it's
such a negative word. But just like I learn so
differently from other people, Like I learned by doing something
hands on.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Same, yes, but then how your hands on with a book?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
I know that we're reading schooling me to read books,
like you're just take it in turns and on the
class reading a couple of sentences. I would literally to
this day, I could read a sentence or a paragraph
like especially.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The perfect example is that Netflix descriptions description reading the
good word word word word, and I know all the words.
I read them more perfectly, but not know what the
fuck I just read.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh yeah, you like you forget it.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah you don't know what you read, but you're reading it,
but it's not going in the brain.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
That's true. I would read something and it wouldn't like stick.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I feel like you definitely have to be super into
something for it to stick.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
If you're not interested and you don't care about what
you're reading, then it's not going to stick in your brain.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
What was your like strengths in school? Do you have
any strengths? Mine was shapes. I knew all the shapes
still do. Oh wow, even though the weird ones that
you will not know, I'll know, all right, Okay, that's
the ones like rombuses and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was good at like sports, but but I never
applied myself to anything because I just did not take
school seriously. But I was good at like running and
shot put and all of.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
That sports stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Drama was good at drama that makes sense. Yeap, did
school plays, did the choir, all of that, and I
was friends with everyone, Like I felt like I had
really good people skills. I was very social. But yeah,
when it came to the pen to the paper shit,
I was like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But I feel like that's a big thing.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You know, Like some people are really what's it, emotionally intelligent? Yeah,
they they're like like they know how to have conversations
and interact with people. Then you get people that are
like intellectually intelligent, yes, yeah, but like are so good
at pen and paper, but like hard to converse with.
I feel like you need to find the balance. Yes,
we're on the emotional side, but we've got a lot
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to work to do on the old collection side.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Very true. So were you never diagnosed with anything?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
ADHD? I feel like that word gets thrown around a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know me too, Like a lot of people say,
you know, you think you're ADHD and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I just hear so many people say you're like the test.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
The thing that sucks though, like back in my day,
so actually sounds so old, but back in my day,
it wasn't like a well known thing, and like it
wasn't like a positive thing like nowadays, I feel like
it's like a strength because because it means that you're
good creatively or you're good at like social stuff like this,
and there's more job opportunities for people who do struggle intellectually,
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like there's other ways to make money and stuff. But
back in my day, like it was kind of like
frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So when did you know you would diagno? I diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I got diagnosed when I was five. I don't remember
the process or anything like that because I was so young,
but basically all I knew was that I was special.
I wasn't like the rest of it, Like I wasn't
like the rest of my classmates. I would have to
go into like a separate room and get one on
one teaching. And even then I was like, I don't
know what the fuck you're talking about, Like I.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Just could you have to take medication for it?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh? So I My mum never wanted to medicate me,
which I'm so glad she didn't, because it's it suppresses
your appetite, so like you can lose heaps away. Like
I feel like that's the biggest thing I feel like
a lot of girls want to go on the medication
to lose weight.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Is it, Brittn.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm on vibe and so I've recently been diagnosed because
my friend actually gave me someone She's like, just try this,
see if it helps. And I was like, oh my god,
this is life changing. Like I can actually cope so
much better because with my life and having my hands
in all different pies, which I feel is something that
ADHD people do. They you know, have a lot of
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projects going at the same time and they're all over
the place, and that's me. That's my life. So I
feel like it helps me cope with all of that
now because I can actually finish tasks.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I don't know, slow you down, so you can actually doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Slow me down. It doesn't slow me down, like amps me.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Up more, but you're more focused.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
On but I'm more focused, so rather than being like
chaotic all all over the place, I'm chaotic and all
over the place, but I'm focused and I can get
the task done. So it's like so helpful and that.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
In that way, eat that at the moment, especially with
like your rare noise kids, like the brand stuff that
you're running like you're doing.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You're doing the most you need that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I feel like I'm doing the most. But trust me,
there are days where I've taken my medication and I'm like,
this is not going to fix me. I'm still broken.
I'm like, because it's just so hard to keep on
track on top of everything, and when your life's so
chaotic in there so much going on, it's like, oh my.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well, it's not like you're doing like a nine to
five where like you clock in and then your tasks
are the same as day before, the day before, and.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You can just focus all day night, like different.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
In hour around, like we're doing a little bit of this,
and we're doing a little bit of this, and it's
all happening, happening simultaneously, right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, all the same time.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It's all the same time.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yes, you like juggling all these things, but like you
don't make any progress.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
You feel like you're not anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, I know. And then your house is trashed and
you're like, oh my god, I go to go make
my bed or like fold the kids undies, you like
go to the andy in the sock draw and you're like, ah, yeah,
the kids have got no clean clothes. Cool, maybe I should.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Get tested because I feel like what you're saying there,
I've got a little bit of it, because like I
can't even brush my teeth in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
What, Yeah, I can't even brush my teeth in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, you don't want to stand there and do that.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh, I'm happy looking myself in the mirror. That's not
a problem. It's just like I can't physically. Just that's
ball in. Yes, So like what I was just paste on.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The toss brush.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I put the water like bang that and a couple
of scrubs. Then I'm off. I'm on, I'm on route.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know I'm the same. I'm the same. So like
that's why I hate taking phone calls because I might.
I can't. I can't if I don't have a bra
on to shove my phone in there and put you
on last weeker so I can move around. I'm like,
I gotta go. I have to go. I can't sider
and talk. It's just the worst thing ever. But yeah,
I do feel like getting medicated has helped me. But
(20:25):
really proud that my mum didn't didn't go down.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That path when I was for years and years.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yes, I mean maybe it would have helped me, but
I'm like, all good.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Maybe if you did get medicated, mure different you like
for me, you could be that.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But maybe in the country. Nah, I don't feel like
it gives me that much of a crutch. Like I
still feel pretty fucked up, to be honest, but I
still feel really broken. But for the most part it's helping.
And yeah, I'm feeling good and trying to keep it
on top of it. But I feel like that concludes episode.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Thanks for joining in, guys. I hope you guys are
loving us as much as we love Oh god, I'm
so fun of the.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Pressure on it now.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
All right, guys, So I guess that concludes episode number
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Speaker 2 (21:42):
Bye guys,