Ep. 1: Breaking the Stigma Around Mental Health

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the Sofa Talk Podcast. I'm your
co host.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Astor and I'm your co host seven.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Let's talk it out and lounge it up. We appreciate
you listening. This is episode one and the title of
today's episode is Breaking the Stigma around Mental Health. This
episode is about the importance of mental health awareness and
mental health welcome back. According to SAMHSA dot gov, Mental

(00:39):
Health Awareness Month was established in nineteen forty nine to
increase awareness of the importance of mental health and wellness
and Americans lives and to celebrate recovery from mental illness.
For more than twenty years, the Substance Abuse and Mental
Health Services Administration has recognized Mental Health Awareness Month every

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May to increase awareness about the vital role mental health
plays and our overall health and well being, and provide
resources and information to support individuals and communities who may
need mental health support. Now here's a good question everybody,
and I'm going to ask seven this as well. Can

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you guess what the most common mental health problem is
in America?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I would have to say depression, anxiety.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, so you got one of the answers right, So
it is actually anxiety disorders. So you are correct on
that you are correct on that anxiety is getting common.
A lot of people have it. So I'm glad that

(01:55):
you know, we are able to be open and talk
about this. I think everybody has honest or some form
of yeah, some formless, many forms of it, generalized anxiety disorder.
So yeah, so anxiety, and yeah, that's what it is, y'all.
So I'm gonna ask seven and maybe you all to

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ponder on this question, what do you think are the
challenges and misconceptions surrounding mental health?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I would definitely say maybe the challenges are, uh accepting
accepting that there's something wrong, talking, feeling comfortable to talk
to someone about it, uh, going out, maybe going to
you know, to.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
A therapist or a doctor, Trying medication.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know a lot of people like, oh, you know,
medication don't work, or they're afraid that it's going to
make them crazy and.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
And I just don't feel like, personally, I mean, I
don't think people give give their mental health situation a
fair chance.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
At all because it's kind of like they're the worst enemy.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I don't feel like they really try to tap in
until maybe a therapist or doctors involved I feel like
people just try to avoid it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
As soon as they notice something is.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Wrong, something's bother them, they'll try to find other ways
and try to go around the fact that, hey, you
know there's something wrong with me, and you know I
need to take care of it. So I would say,
you know, that's some of the challenges and misconceptions, you know,
surrounding it and you know, finding a safe place, especially
for men.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Are comfortable with, you know, talking about mental health because
you know, since probably the beginning of.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Time, you know, we were told you have to be struggled,
you have to do that.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So when you feel that way, it's like you have
to shield it, you have to cover it up and
just kind of deal with it.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And then it's kind of sad.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Because later on you see a lot of things start
to affect men, just speaking from a man's point of
view perspective, eventually start to take place with them, maybe
some type of form of abuse or addiction or you know,
self harm, you know, maybe walking away from.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Their children or their family and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
And I personally feel like that's all a form of depression,
maybe anxiety, something that really triggered them and they don't
feel comfortable or safe to express it or scared to
go get the help. And they've been strong for so long,
so they run from those type of situations and engage
in other stuff. And then a lot of times, you know,

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when they do run, they get called you know, no good,
you know, not a strong man and stuff. And I
personally think the truth is is that they just had
their breaking point finally, because they was being strong for
so long. So it's kind of like they just had
to run or they just WoT in indulged in other things,
and that that was going to fix what was vib.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Learn them because they have that.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Safe place or the knowledge where to go to or
who to call, or what to take or what to
do when you start feeling depression or anxiety or any
type of mental health. There's so many different things, bipolar,
all that. Yeah, they don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
So I have a good question based on men and
men's mental health. Thank you for bringing that up. So
the question I have is, let's see, do men not
feel comfortable talking to other men about mental health if
they're all going through it. That's a good.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Question, right, That's a very good question.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's like, and I would have to say, you would
really have to be close with the next male that
you're speaking to, maybe a male that really understands you,
because once again, you know, all men are taught to
be strong and yes that's a side, that's a sign
of a side weakness. Yes, So they have to find

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that other safe male person that they can express that
to because otherwise than that, it's like.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Dude, you know, yeah, or mana manna mana.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
And it's sad because when you do talk about it
and then you become soft and you do all these
other names, and then when you go do something else
to kind of take away that feeling, then they're also
beating you up for the things that you.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You are doing to mask that feeling.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
So it's like either you damn if you do, you
damn if you don't when it comes to that. So
it's really important for everyone, just not males. But I'm like,
once again, i'm speaking a males perfective perspective, You've got
to find that safe place a person to talk to you,
even if it's another female.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
A female women understand emotions better they do, we do,
we do.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But if you got the guys, a brother a friend,
cousin cowork or whatever. If you got somebody that is
going to allow you to have that congress and not
judge you. Yes, go ahead and have that conversation, because
I always believe there's somebody didn't know something more and
that can really take you to the next place.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
It can really help you personally, I think.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
So hmmm, okay, okay, thank you for that dropping that
knowledge on us. From a man's perspective, that's all. We
need a man here to balance out this, uh, this
whole thing we got going on. So what I think
are challenges surrounding mental health would be I'll piggyback off

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of what seven said, people not wanting to admit they
have a problem or there's something wrong with them. Here's
something else. I'm not crazy because people associate mental health
mental health disorders as being crazy, so nobody wants to

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be labeled crazy. So that's the thing. So I think
that is one of the challenges, is not feeling comfortable
to talk to your primary care physician or your doctor
about any mental health issues you're going through because again,
you might have an image or besides, you're putting up
and you don't want people to see how you really

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are feeling on in the inside, I should say, so,
you know, we have to think about it bigger like that,
especially people with let's see, prestigious jobs, prominent jobs. You
know the jobs are very successful, Yes, stuff like that.
So if I'm battling a mental health disorder, Wow, I

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have all this going on, but I'm really going through
some things that people don't know. I don't want to
look a certain way. So I honestly think that could
be something a big challenge, a misconception and misunderstanding surrounding
mental health. Is that one's a hard one to answer.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Do you do you think that, Like not to get
off topic, because you think that that's even a worse
situation for like safe safe for instance, for celebrities, because
everybody sees them.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So they have this it's like they're untouchable.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
So when bad yes to them, it's like, wow, I
wasn't expecting that, you know, and they're just human beings.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, yes, it's better jobs, longer.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Work, scheduling hours and all that, but if you if
you think of that too, those are one of the
people that are you know, they're right there.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
They have a platform.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Everybody sees what's going on social media makes it even
worse for them because everything.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
They do do.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
You know, back in the day, if something was going
on celebrities, you only see it on the magazine. That's true,
everything every platform, even when they're going through a hard time.
It's even It makes it even more difficult on the
heal because everything is being shown. It's no privacy.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So let me add on
to that. Okay. So do you think when us regular
people see these top celebrities in the news disclosing about
their anxieties, they have mental breakdowns, any medication they're using,
any drug use they're going through, do we have a
warm spot for them or do we feel here's a

(10:22):
good question. They need to suck it up because they
have money. We're trying to get that money. Why they
Why are they living like that they have everything at
the palm of their hand. We're out here struggling.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I've seen both both sides of that. It's kind of
sad because yes, we all need money, Yes we all
want more money. Yeah, those people don't feel like they.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Have it's enough. It's enough to think about. They have
to they got to make the next dollar. That's true,
their their lifestyle, yes, oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So just imagine what the record when nine to five
people have to feel they also too. It's like I
have to keep this going on, you know, nine to
five people, they're always just check away from being homeless ones.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Of course I'm part of that group, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
And that also that's definitely causes major mental health because
you're constantly thinking like what if, what if this happens.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Or yes, yes or whatever and.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
All that stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
So just think about them having even more worse because
it's all in front of the whole entire world, you know,
and it's and they probably feel like everybody's crumbling down
with and I'm sure some of them have stick places,
but they would literally have to step away. And the
beautiful the good thing about for them is that they
have all the money to step away. I'm going to

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take off four years, Yeah, do this, I won't act,
I won't sing, I want to do this.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And they can do that. But the regular people, they
don't have that because.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
They have to cont continue to keep on surviving, have
that luxury to say I'm I'm gonna just walk off
this job and I'll be okay for a year, I
can you know, go to rehab, go to therapy, or
go stay at a long distant relative house and seeking
some you know, normally see some you know, you know,

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get back in touch with myself.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
The normal people, really, the regular people don't really have
that change.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
So they have to navigate that and then also try
to work when their mental health and still stay focused
on the everyday life nor.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Which is difficult.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And that's why to say it could be a doozy.
You know, it's challenging, challenging, It is challenging like no other. Yeah,
So you don't think we show sympathy for celebrities that
are going through mental health issues because of their status.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't think we show We don't show sympathy until
they die.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Another topic.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
And and and I'm guilty for that too.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You know, the celebrity stuff and looking at to all
of it, you know, seeing their lifestyle. I follow out
of that on social media. But and then you do
have the ones that you feel sorry for, especially the
ones that you know that are the celebrity.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yes, you know they they you know.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
With their fans, they donate to certain causes and very
hands on to the people very nice and stuff like that,
and then when you hear awful things happen to them
or their family or they're going to some type of
you know, serious breakdown.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Remember the whole break experience.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I think a lot of people that they made fun
of her.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
They some people may think a lot of people, especially
the gue hard fans, was really really sad. And I
think now that it's been like almost twenty years since her,
I feel like a lot of people really see it
for they feel some type of compassion for the celebrities
because now it's even more open than it's.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like, yes, yes, I'm glad you brought that up. It's
becoming normalized.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, you know, I see a lot of sad. Oh
she he was a good person. Yeah, I love them,
and they will always nice yeah to us, or sign
autographs or take pictures. They will always time and even
their coworkers you know you were here. You will see
them in certain blows or whatever or social media and

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then speaking highly of this person's character, Yes, to see
the downfall of their mental health and you know it turning,
you know, turn into something bad or tragic.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know, people are affected by it.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow, it is sad. It is you.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Know, we're all human. We're all human, and it is
what it is. We just have to learn how to
navigate it and work on it. You know, whatever works
for you, that's going to help not hurs your mental health.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I say, go forward, I'm with it. I'm with it.
Also to a misconception, and we add this on to this.
This is based on our social media posts we did
for the Mental Health Awareness Month. We made a post
that said, abnormal is the new normal. Remember we keep
on hearing about abnormal. So you know what, there's so

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many conditions that people are going through with mental health.
It's normal now. It's not standing out anymore. Come on now,
and you.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Know why it's normal now because people are excepting the fact.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yes they're navigating, and there's others.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And there's others, and then they're not allowing.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
It to stop their lives exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
You know, because before you would hear mental health being
talked about, and the first thing you think suicide, somebody's.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Want to hurt them, yes, yes, and the facility yeah,
or with the third work with the hospital, third floor
or whatever, and it's true.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now it's like you know what I got a little problem.
But listen, I gotta go out here and get minds
like I do. I gotta do take care of myself
or if you have a family or whatever case your job,
your career.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Whatever, you find ways to still push through.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
But also it's like you know something's wrong, you're dealing
with it, but you're still navigating also too, because I
feel like.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
When you put personally, I personally feel.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Like when you put a lot of thought okay.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Into your mental health, I feel like they will also
take you off tract because you'll get stuck into it.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
But like, like I have this disorder playing on it.
The symptom is playing on me right now. I'm feeling
this way right now. It's because I have it. So
you kind of like try to give yourself an excuse.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So I like to a way people, I have anxiety,
but anxiety.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Having me right right right right right.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
That because that's just showing like this situation.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
But I'm that's right. I was about to say that, Okay, okay,
that's the radar. Okay, yep, okay, I like that. I
like that now. I know you wanted to share an
experience that you had. This is a really good topic. Yeah,
it's a good topic.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's I'm sorry, Ladies and gentlemen that seven wants to
share with his personal experience with mental health. Please listen
to him on this, y'all.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, guys.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So, I mean, like like I've said before, I'm thirty
seven years old. I never really was the experiment type
during high school with you know, drugs and all that
stuff like that, and just that was just like a
fun era for me. Just fun times, good time, just
being young, being excited to you know, drive parties, you

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know all that.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Stuff that teenagers look forward. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
So after we got out of high school that summer,
I had my first experience with cannabis and so.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Tried it a couple of times. I liked it.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
It became fun. These were fun with friends. We would laugh,
go out to eat, go car rides, parties, and.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It was a good, good time for the short period.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yes, And then there became a time where there was
a time when I had overly indulged and I got
sick and I told myself.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know what, I'm not going to do this no more.
Mind you. I was only eighteen years old, and I
said I didn't like this feeling.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
It scared me. It scared me, It scared my family.
It scared my friends because they never saw that sun
or we have never experienced it. And I can basically
say most of you, guys, i've heard it called lunch
lunch and outs.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I had a bad side effect from it, and so
I got myself together and told myself I wasn't going
to do it again.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, I ended up doing it again, and it really took.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Me for a ride, and it really affected my mental
health where I had to go into therapy, I had
to take medication. I started having anxiety and pain so bad.
I mean I would go to the area where it
had happened that on that situation happened that I would

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just freak out. It just triggered it, and I'm like
heart pounding. I mean, it was crazy, guys. And what
I also.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Learned during that time, I got.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Some issues because it seemed like once that situation triggered me,
it seemed.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Like all these things came to surface.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And so as I got older and I thought about it,
I'm like, wow, maybe I was really feeling this way
when I was this age or when that happened. I said,
because I always remember even when bad things will happen,
I will always look at the best of it or
see the good. Yes, So I always would tell anybody
that knows it, like man childhood, I had a good

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and I've seen some stuff. I've been stuff, but I
never allowed it to affect me. Where I'm saying down today,
I'm eighteen years old and I have mental health because
it's something that I went through when maybe I was
five or ten or eight, or my parents did this,
my parents did.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
That, or can I add onto that, or you didn't
feel like, oh, I might have been through some things
in my childhood. I'm a resort to drugging and doing stuff.
You did it not to suppress pain or emotions. You
did it for like you said, for fun, recreational leisure.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
So it was fun.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I was good friends and that was it. So after
that experience, that was it for me. I went through
a lot. I will say, guys, it was about a
good six months and it also kind of like showed
me who my true friends were and all of that

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because I literally became another became another person in those
six months, and I also had to learn to adapt
with them also to do I was no longer outgoing
the life of the party, very anxious, very nervous. It's
a total effect on my personality in my life. But

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I will say I was totally grateful for the village
because the people that were around me, which because I
didn't I didn't. I was like my only I was
my mom's only child for sixteen years. Yeah, that grew
up with siblings until later in life. And my village
came through and it helped me get through. It wasn't easy.

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It wasn't an overnight thing. It took some time and
they had to adjust to the knew me. And that
was one of the things I was afraid of. It's like, man,
I'm gonna be left alone.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
You know, everybody weird, I'm crazy and all of that.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
And I just gradually just I didn't adapt to who
I was, but I I became comfortable and I was like,
maybe I might be using the word the wrong words
got but I learned how to navigate it.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
But still.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Still still had that old part of me still that
was in me. But I just I was very cautious
with the things I said and did. As Tom went
on after that, I didn't want to be around anybody
that was smoking or drinking, because I felt like that
might have been a So I would still find ways
to go out, go party and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
But if I saw things getting a little awkward, yeah,
I might.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Have felt tempted or peard pressure because, like I said,
got the only eighteen at the time, I would remove
myself from the situation. I would get out of that.
And then as Tom got on, lift life got better.
I eventually came out of depressive state. My anxiety and

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panic attacks got better.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
How did those things get better for you?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Honestly, I would say therapy helped a little bit. Village
helped of that.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I had good support of friends, I had good parents,
And it seemed like after I experienced it.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yes, yes, yes, I was able to help them navigate
through it.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
And then I felt like it brought us closer. It
wasn't like a any party thing, but it was.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Kind of like more connected.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It's more connected. I went through that.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
This is what I did, so people are able to
be open, as you mentioned, yes, open together.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Seven navigated through that and got through it, so I
know I can do that.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yes, yes, And as.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Time went on, I became up in my twenties and
my thirties, I felt like I've been an advocate for
mental health ever since then.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I will say that of.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Experienced self experience people around me, my line of work, Yes,
that helped tremendously.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, and medication, medication.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Helps, But I listen to y'all, I personally do feel
like you know, with medication is fifty you gotta want
and then the medications will work.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
But if you aren't.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Doing the self work on you, okays, you only gonna
get fifty percent of that medication. Okay, it's not going
to do it's not going to fix you. Okay, it's
not going to fix you one hundred percent. You got
to do the self work and then also allow the
medication work, and then if you do both, you'll be
able to navigate that that darkness or whatever type of
mental health you're dealing with.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's a good point. I thank you for, you know,
disloads of that, because it's important for all of us
to hear this. You know once again, and you mentioned
that you worked in the mental health field. Now, when
somebody is going through their own mental health, you know,
issues or disorders and then they're working in the mental
health I feel that that's not really giving them a

(24:47):
balance to break free from their own mental health when
you're dealing with other people. So did that trigger you
at any point or anything like that?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
So let's let me be clear on that.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
So with that, I personally feel like I was good
because what I was going to do was gonna put
my mental health in harm's way or dollars, because there's
other jobs I could have done and been successful at it.
I stepped into that field because I knew that I
had to strength to help.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I knew what I was doing, and I also knew
that I was mentally strong.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I was no longer in that place where I was
mentally mentally vulnerable where I couldn't help people or whatever
they're dealing with or whatever I might be seeing or
triggered me.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, so I had to know that.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
But if I, if I knew that I was still
in a fragile place in my mental health, I wasn't
going to take that job because anything could.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Have triggered it.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Can you can? You be honest though? Was there one
particular we'll call them a client that ever made you
feel like, oh my gosh, you know I went through
that too, or it's take me back to the feeling
I don't want to be.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
At absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Wow, I walked in.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
When I walked into the job, was to find somebody
that took their own life.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
That was my own concern.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I was not afraid of anybody that had schizophrenia, that
may have suffered from depression, that is going through anxiety all.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I mean, all the lists of the mental health guys.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
The only things that only had me ship was to
find somebody that hurt themselves and didn't make it. That
was my only thing other than that, I can handle.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
All the stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
And you know what I want to add on top
of that too, because they say people that work in
certain fields they work better as the worker and connect
better with their or build a better rapport with their clients,
is because they experienced it too before. So any job
we do, we have experienced it, so we are better
to work with people.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
And you know, and I think it worked out for
me good because I stayed at the job for a while.
I was very successful there until transition to my prior
world that I have now. But I already experienced depression,
I already experience anxiety. I knew people that had schizophrenia.
There was a relative of.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Mind that had it my whole you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
So I was able to not And then, like I said,
once I learned about this mental health stuff, I learned
even more and dug deep, dug deep into it more.
So I learned about all this about myself, my triggers,
you know, the people and peers that were around me
that experienced things. And I was able to articulate all
that and take all that. And so when I went

(27:31):
into this this line of work, I was ready. I
knew I couldn't then trigger, but like I said, I
wasn't going to put myself in an uncomfortable that could
make me feel some type of way.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So that's why I said.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
My only words was self harm and a person there's
a possibility of self harm for somebody to die.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
And that was the only thing that was for the
three and a half years. And I was there, not
my clients.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
So and so after that when I left that job,
I felt I felt honored and I felt proud because
I also felt like I made an impact on my patients.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
But they would you write me letters?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, So I was proud of myself, and then I
was also proud of it all.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
See I'm telling you, y'all. I told y'all in the
introduction seven as words of wisdom, away of words, and
he changes lives as well. You know, he just gave
an example. He just gave an example there, So take
key to that what he said. So I'm going to

(28:54):
share my experience with mental health. I think ever since
I was a child, I'll be, you know, blunt with
you all. I think I've always been a child that worried,
you know. And it's sad to say that I always
been a child that worried, and that could have been
my anxiety, you know, and you know, putting it to

(29:15):
the back burner, you know, remaining strong. I'm the eldest sister.
You know, there's a lot of responsibilities with that role.
I consider myself, you know, to be a person who
does good, does right. I like equality, fairness with everybody.
I want my people around me to do good also too.

(29:36):
I think what happens with my mental health is that
I'm an impath, so I take on everything that people
go through. I don't like seeing bad in the world.
I don't it could be a stranger hearing a story
that's I don't do the news too much and stuff
like that. I can't the social media stuff. That's why
I told y'all before I'm not on social media because

(29:59):
of the whole fact I'm an impact and I cannot
stand to see people, animals, people suffering getting hurt. Here
are my people going through things, whether it's financial things,
emotional problems, mental problems, So that might player of factor
with my mental health too, because I feel what they
are going through and I don't get off on hearing

(30:20):
bad stuff. I'm gonna keep it real with you, especially
the ones I ride tight with in my circle. I
want everybody to be happy and doing good. Yes, this
is life. Yes we're gonna have some up and downs,
but I'm just hoping that we have more ups now
and that we're getting to our happy places and knowing
how to cope if we are going through some challenges
and knowing that the storm won't last forever, you know,

(30:41):
keep our head up high. So that's I think that
has a little bit to do with it. You know,
from childhood. Let me mention this too, and this is
not going to deter anybody, especially you eighteen year olds
that are graduating about to head to college. I'm gonna
be real with y'all. Some of the mental health might
have been exacerbated by college. I'm going to say that

(31:04):
for me, yes, some of that came to that too. Besides,
you know, childhood and stuff, worrying and all that anxiety
and everything. College might have did something with that. And
I feel, when you're in college, what does college have
you do? You have to pass your classes, you have
to juggle multiple subjects, different teachers, students, you know, your

(31:27):
fellow students, professors, so you're dealing with a lot assignments,
do dates, deadlines. That is a lot for the brain.
And also to guys, memorizing, memorizing. I think I heard
somewhere with your memory is not doing good. I can't
don't put me on that because I try to have
my statistics in my resources on hand. But I think

(31:51):
I heard this before that your memory could be impacted
from anxiety. You know, so you won't remember So you
heard it too, right. You won't be able to memoriz
stuff because you're anxiety, so you know, trying to remember.
Think about that, guys, memorizing everything that you learn different subjects, this,
that and the third testing Testing essays, it's a lot.
Remember I'm not a good writer. At first, as I

(32:12):
told you in the introduction for SOPA Talk, I wasn't
a good writer. So that's a lot to deal with.
Then you got your personal life. Then you got your
social life. You have your family, you have your friends.
If you're dating, that could do something too. Yes, he
took yep, you said it. Working, paying bills, trying to

(32:33):
keep your credit up, all that's a lot for a
college student, and just navigating. Some college students have their
own apartment. On top of that that they're paying full rent.
You know, then you're racking up student loan debt. Also
to me, say something else with that, because I was
getting financial aid when I started at the junior college,
so again I was pressured to not fail because if

(32:57):
I failed that I wouldn't get financial aid. So that
is a big factor to mental health, is the pressure
to succeed, to do well. Because I was getting paid
for my school and it's a grant, so it's free
money by the government that you don't have to pay back.
So I was trying to keep up. And I think
there was one class I had to withdraw from, but

(33:17):
listen to this, y'all. I still went to the class
to learn because I was going to retake the class again.
I didn't just withdraw and not you know, and I'm
done with it. I went to learn, but I knew
I was going to get credit for it so that
when I went back again, I could pass it. So
keep that in mind, college students or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I also like to stay on that too, even you know,
for your young adults that's going into.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
The real world also too after high school, because some
of you guys may not go to college.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
I also feel like, you know, kind of getting out
of school and not really having a plan, I personally
feel that can affect your mental health too, Okay, so
I would definitely say, you know, maybe you know a
year or two. Well some of you y'all probably already
out to school, but just speaking from now, it is
good to have those conversations and kind of come up
with a.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
B C maybe YEH plan as you're entering to the
real world, because it's it's all about what you make
of it, and you know you're going to have your
ups and downs, that's just how life works and all that.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
But if you are able to be strong minded and
able to navigate certain certain things of life, you'll be okay.
And it goes back to what the whole mental health
situation also too. You have to take care of it.
You know, if you're a young adult in your films
some type of way, you know, don't suppress. Go go
talk to somebody you know, Go talk to a parent,

(34:42):
talk to you. If you have that, if you have
that space where you're able to communicate and not feel
judged or loan, do it, guys, do it. You will
save yourself. You will save your mental health. And not
saying you're not going to run into issues in the future,
but if you started out early, it won't carry out
so long because you'll already know what You'll know what

(35:02):
to do, you'll know how to navigate all these areas.
But if you're a person that just holds things in,
don't talk about it, you don't have a safe place.
You don't believe in therapy, or you don't believe it medication,
or you don't believe in talking and sharing, you're going
to make it difficult for your for your mental health.

(35:24):
I'm a person that believes in communicating. You don't have
to over share, share to those that you know that care.
Share to those that you know that it's going to
allow you to feel safe and you are able to
be yourself and be vulnerable and let those feelings and
emotions out if you feel sided, judge any of those

(35:49):
types of things, like, those are not the type of
people that you should be sharing those feelings too, because
you're not going to get the answer or the results
that you want from them.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Speak, okay, speak, he's it on that. Also, when you're
on the college campus or yeah, when you're on the
college campus, if there's counselors on site, definitely reach out
to them and speak. Yes, take full advantage of that.
If there's counselors, definitely speak. Figure out what works for

(36:18):
you practicing self care, maybe journaling also too. I'm a writer,
so like to do to do list and a planner.
Buy a planner where you can have your time for
yourself and when you know your subjects are due, when
you visually see things out, like if you haven't written
down on the calendar planner, I think that might help
some of the reduction of your anxiety because it's on

(36:40):
paper and you can see it, so you know what
needs to be done.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Because a lot of people talk about about vision boards.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh yes, vision boards, and they usually do it the
new year too, when the new year starts, they do that. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
That would help with things, combat it in a way. Huh.
Definitely interesting. Okay, vision boards, y'all. You heard him vision boards.
So I think that's really good. And let me tell

(37:11):
y'all something too, because I know I was telling my
sister and I was telling seven this a few was
it a few years ago or months ago? I had
a dream, y'all, and I'm way past college, but I
had a dream this look with how it affected me.
I had a dream that I was about to graduate
and I couldn't graduate because I didn't have the money
from financial aid to pay them back. You remember that dream?

(37:34):
So that's what I'm telling you. Or I was gonna
something about failing classes something like that was in the dream.
That's why I said, I don't know, maybe he did
something to me so and also to I'm gonna tell
you this too, and Bergain, I can't stand the jobs.
You already know that you're gonna keep on hearing this
from me. I can't stand the jobs. I think the
mental health happened a little bit too with me working.

(37:54):
Is when the first job I got, you know, after
graduating from college, I got the first job in the
that I chose with my degree. Then they end up
firing me, and they did it in a malicious way.
That might be another story for another topic in a
few more months. They did a malicious way. I think
that downplayed my confidence and my anxiety. It did. It

(38:16):
made me feel like all this work for this and
I'm still battling with these jobs. In my current job
right now, I'm gonna say, y'all can't see me, Supervisors,
y'all can't see me. So I think right now I'm
getting mentally burnt out with my position. I'm into. That's
mental health also, I am getting burnt out right now.
So I'm gonna be thinking about things about making some

(38:37):
changes as far as my career. I have a business
as well, but I'm going to be making changes on
how I earn my money because this mental health is
with these jobs, it's not good. And I'm getting burnt out.
And you know, I'm helping people, which I love to do,
but some people don't want the help. And I have
to realize that too so, and that's frustrating. That is

(38:58):
effecting my mental health because I would give my all
and I work so hard in what I do. So
I'm gonna take that the energy I'm using out my
current job and use it for my business for the
people who need the help and want the help. Now,
am I say not all of them that I have?
Some of them do need the help or want the help,
and then I have some of those that don't or
not taking me seriously. That has impacting my mental health.

(39:18):
And the and the supervisors are not considering mental health
when they have all these deadlines and pressures on me
and expectations that are not realistic. And they're also doing underhanded,
sneaky type of stuff that could be affected mental health.
So you're about to say, in a few more weeks, guy,
fuck y'all, fuck y'all have that job, because y'all know
how I feel.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
So astor would you say to the you know, to
the viewers, like, would you say, you know, if it's
affecting their mental health.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
You do see school or a job or a.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Relationship, Yeah, that happens to you. I've been with these men.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Mental health.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Do you do you think that people should walk away
from those situations.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
If it's not making you happy, if it's causing toxic
ways of living, a toxic environment, what you gotta do
You need to walk or run away from that. I'm sorry,
maybe stick it out for a little bit. But who's
to say that right now? Is promise or tomorrow's promise?
Who wants to die like that? Die in misery, Die
in misery of a job, die in misery of a

(40:22):
man or a woman in a relationship. Who wants to
go out that way? Give it a try, you know,
give yourself a deadline. And after enough is enough. We
are getting older, we said, time is going by fast
and life is short. Hopefully we can live long. We're
not trying to go out in agony and misery. That's why.
And you don't want your people that love you so
much in your circle to have that last memory of

(40:44):
you and get even sad and grieve your death and saying, oh,
she didn't like her job, she didn't like what was
going on, she didn't like her relationship, this, that, and
the third, she was so unhappy. You know, let them
see you at your best self. Also to let people
see you when you struggled and then made it to
success because that's what we needed life. You have to
have our down moment in order to get start up moment.

(41:04):
So you know when they can give the testimony about.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
That too, because that's always a good story.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's yes, it's always a good darn story. So let's
keep that in mind here with the mental health and
everything in these jobs and everything else as I said,
because you know, I can't stand these jobs. As I
said all the time, and you can keep on hearing it.
They have a lot to do with mental health, and
I know some of y'all might be going through it.
Shout out to the ones that are not. Y'all get
some kudos.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Would you? Would you?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Would you think it would be a good idea if
they started?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I think, I mean you spoke about it before.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
They have some type of class, I know, like they
have guidance counselors.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
At schools and colleges and colleges and all.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
That, But do you think that they should have some
type of course or some type of therapy therapy session
or some type of therapist because I don't know, goddance
counselors aren't therapists, licensed.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Therapists or not.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
They're supposed to be there. They're supposed to be they're
supposed to like a social worker or a professional counselor
on site to help with mental health anything.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Because I feel like that should be talked about, especially
to the young adult spot they're entering that you know,
their minds, Yeah, they're all experiencing different emotions and feelings.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Their bodies are changing, you know, their minds is changing.
All that.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
I personally feel like a certain definitely in high school for.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Sure, absolutely, even middle school, matter of fact, matter of fact,
even elementary school. Yeah, all levels about yes, yeah, so
let's get these kids.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yes, So I personally feel like, you know, one of
those things that should be put into the school for
sure to protect these these young people that want to
one day become at don't. Yes, I think it will
also prepare them. I think it will prepare them and
help them and give it because if you think about it,

(42:58):
a lot of kids don't get to.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Go home state.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Oh don't give me you know my path.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I go ahead, go home, tell their house.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I know, I know, don't even get me started.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
They had a long day at work, they got to
come home, come home the activities or clean, cook dinner,
you'll get you all together ready for the next day
and all that. So some kids don't, some kids aren't
lucky to have to have that, or some parents are
not open to those type of you know, oh, don't
worry about that right now, you're too young to worl

(43:32):
I know.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh yeah, you hear that too. You're too young or
enjoy your life. But these kids feeling yes, yes, yes, yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Taking so far in life. It will it would change them,
It would change mm hmmm. Because you always want your
children to feel safe and be able to say, hey,
I had this conversation.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yes, just bothered me.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yes, you know, I woke up one day and my
room was spinning around and I felt sad the whole.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
You should be able to tell your mom and dad that,
or to be able to go to school and talk
to somebody there. You know, I know they when certain
situations have on kids, you know, they built the school
systems tap in and reach out to their parents or
intervene in all that.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
But let's just not focus on uh maybe abuse.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Or uh neglect neglect also too, like those are also
important to be checking on these kids mental health where
it starts from allow them to feel safe. Give them
that and you know, somebody teaching kids how to deal
with their mental health and while they're also dealing with
the pressures of growing up and preparing for the real world.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yes, yes, the changes that are going Yeah, that too,
you kids stuff, thats.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Just walking down the hallway. You know. It's like you know,
and there's some kids that will take full advantage of it.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
And so kids that long, yes.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Because I will say for myself, I probably was one
of those kids in school, like I don't need to
hear that.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Ship uh huh.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But now as an adult and with my experience, I
allowed that space to be open to my kids.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I mean that.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Tired and I still let them that does bothered me
or this happened or I'm feeling this type of way, and.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
That's right, that's right. I like that.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I like that talk about it.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I feel like if it's starting, if you start them
off as you know, a decent age. You know, you
don't want to put you know, share too much when
they're too young. Some kids run with it. But when
they're at that certain age, allow them to have that conversation.
You had that conversation with always check in with their
emotions and films and stuff like that. Give them that start,
that safe place, a safe space for them, and then

(45:53):
they'll always have it.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
And so you don't have to running off to drugs.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Men.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Women, yep, yep, yep, they have it right at home,
the closest thing to them, your parents, the closest thing
to them. I want to mention too, And this was
a statement I will never forget. When I was working
back a few months you no, not months ago, I'm sorry, y'all.
A few years ago. I ever heard one of my

(46:20):
former supervisors mentioned to I think her coworker that she
has never been depressed before. So I took that in.
I'm a listener and I try to make sense of
what was said. I said, you gotta be kidding me.
She said she never was depressed before. But then I said,
I remember her saying she had a divorce and things

(46:42):
like that before. So you're telling me that that divorce
didn't make you depressed, or if there was a death
in the family, if you had any type of losses,
things didn't go as planned, you never felt depressed.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
You know what I'll say. I'll on that. I don't
you know, there's different forms of depression.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
You know, we all know that, but everybody deals with
everything differently. So and I also believe some people believe
they're strong, stronger. I know somebody very close to me,
that person, they're very They can overpower.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Their depression, they go around their depression. And so with that,
I feel like some people try to.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Avoid their depression, allow the reality of what they're dealing
with to sink in, so they'll say, yeah, I was sad,
I cried, I'm good now, because if they automatically say
I'm depressed, oh, you want to hurt yourself, you don't
want to be here no more, you hate life, You're
not going to get out of bed, You're not you know.

(47:47):
So some people don't like to associate sadness or feeling down,
feeling weak or vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
With depression because soon as you say that word depression
maybe or just mental health and general yes, that they
don't want to associate with that word because in their head,
they're gonna automatically think something is wrong, and nobody wants
to believe I'm feeling I'm suffering from I'm dealing with this,
you know what I mean? Everybody has I believe a

(48:16):
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
A lot of people are not really open to it
or talk about and that's why so many bad things happens.
They're not talking or being open about it, or they're
avoiding it. So I personally feel that. So she may
not in her.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Words, you know, that's her words, that's what she said.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
So she probably was sad about her divorced or you know,
if a death happened. I'm sure she was sad, but
I don't think that she went down to take her
into oppression.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
But that might have been her thing, so she you know, if.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
The conversation might have got deeped with you guys, she
probably could have elaborated because like you said.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
You just overheard, Yeah, I was listening.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
She might maybe could have elaborated it a little.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
If y'all were having that conver station and labory, you
probably got a better understand it. Yeah, there are different
forms of depression and all different types of forms and
means for all this stuff with and all that. Fortunately,
a lot of people don't tap in and talk about it,
or they're not going to go there.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
They'll just say I'm just fine, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, we hear that, I'm good, I'm fine, Yep, good
and then deep down inside, you're not.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Like I said, you know, some some people are not
going to associate those feelings.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
H Absolutely, and that's fair.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
That's that's their that's their feeling, that's their word.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, that's how they that's how they coke.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
That's how they If that works for them to say, Okay,
that's fine, I'm not gonna take it from me.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Mm hmmm, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, I'll take it now. We have a good question here.
Do you think that Dochi's anxiety song is good at
describing what anxiety means? Is it teaching people, especially the

(50:03):
youth or the kids who listen to that song to
fully understand anxiety, or is it making it seem like
anxiety is a cool thing to have?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
See?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
What?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Music? A good question?

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Music as music is art. Anybody that is a music
fan that's interviewed, I love music. I love music is
my therapy.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Music is art, So you can, like I mentioned to
you earlier, it can It can be taken in two ways.
It could be taken in a good way or negative way.
With that song, I feel.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Like it's art. I've heard other some of her other.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Songs before where she expressed like her hardship and then
coming into and all that. And just because somebody has
fame and fortune and all that stuff like that does
not mean they still don't struggle. There's so many of celebrities,
not only just DOCI. We can even name uh who
was another one?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Uh Tragi.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Oh yes, yes, she's big on that. That's true.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Share, share and.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Share because they're being honest and they don't want the
fans the viewers to get caught up on just this.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Magical life lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
As long as you're getting money and your yes, you're
never going to feel sad and down and out. And
that's not true. So with that song, I felt like
she was it was it was a work of art.
I feel like she was expressing about her anxiety. But
then she also didn't make it look bad too. You
saw the video she dancing and she's moving. There was
other people that were dancing behind it, with different ethnic

(51:43):
ces and men, women, different races, all of that dancing
in the video with her, and they all was just
pretty much expressing like I'm here. You know, I may
have anxiety, but I'm here nothing so and then you
have then you might have Other people might think like
she's making the mockery of.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Okay okay, okay, okay okay.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I personally didn't take it that way. Music is art.
Music is art.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
So if you're if your child, when of your children
were to sing.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Anxiety, My kids love that song.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Do they know what it is? Though?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Do you want them to be saying that they have anxiety? No?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I don't want them to say it unless they do
have it.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's what I'm saying, that's what that's You see what
I'm saying. While I'm going with that, like.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
It's a cool song, it's a catchy song. But my children,
I can't speak for everybody else's children. Some people don't
allow their children listen to how you say, secular music
and all that.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
My kids listen to everything. So I'm an open book
when it.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
If I'm going to allow them to be open to that,
then I have to answer the questions that they come
to me about it.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
So my kid asked me, what anxiety is? I express that.
That's what is.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
That's what she's singing about, those feelings that she has
in her head when she's.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Feeling overwhelmed, or feeling clothed in or feeling down. That's
what that song is about.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
So is it influencing kids in a positive way or
a negative way? That's a good question. Like I'm still
like in the middle of this, Like and I'm saying
the kids, because the kids are listening to this, you
know what, Like I mean, it's all.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
How they take it all.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
It's all how they take especially if they're older kids
like over you know, ten, twelve, you know, thirteen, they're
kind of already exposed into what certain things mean. You
know that that's not shielded to around that that age group.
So I like I said, if your kids ask you, well, well,
what is it? Well, you know that what what? What
is anxiety?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
What is she saying about? Yeah? I want to tell
them they're like okay, yeah, yeah, Hey.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Let's say fiveteen years down my mind and I might
talk to one of my kids.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
And be like, yeah, remember that song anxiety whatever? I
felt like that before too, you.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I'm like, yeah, people go through with that.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Girl that song.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
That song's human being, just like you. She was saying
about it.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
That's her art, that was her feelings, that's her expression too.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Expression And you've heard you've heard of a fa and say, yo,
this person like especially Mary J.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Blig fan.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Me get through dark Yes, yes, especially with the mentor.
The mentor, but the relationship that is true. Okay, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
His music.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I wasn't the biggest fan, but his music it was
like poetry. But they were talking about real relatables.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Uff uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
So like say, for if a rapper is talking about
drug dealing and.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Stuff like that, that's because that's what they experience, that's
what they know.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
That's maybe that's what they had to go through to
get to where they are.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
But but, but, but here's a question. Question. I'm gonna
rebuttle it because if we're going back to the youth again,
we're going back to the children. They talk about drug dealing,
they're glamorizing it. So what's gonna happen. We're gonna drug
deal too, We're gonna be out on the black, We're
gonna be out on the streets. We're gonna do We're
gonna do this, We're gonna do that, get that money.
Because the rappers are saying that's what they had to
do to get it, I'm going to do the same thing.

(55:02):
I have a one mama, no daddy around. I'm gonna
go ahead and do it because they did it. Remember,
Remember that's how it works.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
But we're talking about parents that are also talking to
their children about that stuff. If you're a parent that
is not involved and your kid is literally sitting home
watching music videos or listening to the music on the
radio and they're not First of all, your children shouldn't
be listening to none of that if they don't get
the concept behind me, let's just be clear.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
But they're like beats and choruses. I'm one of them.
I'm still to this day to day later, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Sitting back like, that's what that meant?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Because true, true, you know, yes, yes, it overpowers the lyrics,
the meaning.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
And when you're able to sit back and take in
what the artist is saying. That's what I like about
poetry when people because you really listening, yes, playing in
the background, but then you really get to hear uh
what they're saying, and then it all makes sense. You
got to articulate. So some some kids are not going

(56:08):
to get that, and that they can like this song
was fire or she was dancing. You know, he had.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Cards in jewelry and pretty girls in the video.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
So they're only going to see that. But eventually they
will get that because people will talk. There's always somebody
that knows more than you that. So you're being in
high school and there are certain rap songs and I'm like, yeah,
a video was this.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
But then then there'll be other dudes being in the
classroom like did you hear we said that? You know
that ship was he.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Again, it's you're going by the visual, just just like
our podcast, we're not visual hear the meaning of what's
being delivered to you all. Hello, So, uh, do I.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Think a song anxiety songs? Adult song? Absolutely? Okay, it's
hard and she's talking about real stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I like. I like it. That's's talking real stuff. I'm
in the middle of it there with just with the children.
That's that's the only thing. Because we do need to normalize,
Like I'll be hypocrite by saying, let's not normalize mental
health mental health disorders, so I'll be hypocrite. Let's broadcast
and make it more where expressed.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
If you think about it also too, especially if you
have a young child that hears that song and then
they articulated, that can also build character in them where
if they are dealing with anxiety they gotta start painting
or you know, well, I'll start dancing when I feel
my anxiety to a certain song and expressing myself because
that releases the anxiety or something like that. So it's

(57:43):
all about how you take it in, how you perceive it,
and who's also explaining that to you.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Absolutely, Okay, Okay, right now, good comp good comb. So
we're gonna do like some little open discussions and we
gotta few little topics there, so we are gonna talk
about y'all heard this before. I'm unbothered, feeling unbothered. Nothing's

(58:13):
bothering me. I'm above that. I can get through anything
that could be part of mental health.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Absolutely, I personally think with the whole bothering thing, it
sounds good.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I was a person that I was a person that
I used to use that term. I think o' marion
was one of the made real big the whole father movement.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
And I would definitely say that I use it as
a shield for sure, definitely use it as a shield,
uh to cover up a feeling that I may have
been feeling.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I definitely say I.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Would use it to towards another person of being unbothered
because we don't want Uh, well.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I can speak for myself.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
I don't want somebody else to feel like he got
one on you or they hurt.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Me certain mood or feeling and stuff like that. I
don't really think it's a real thing. I feel like
it's a like you said.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Coping mechanism.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, that's what I personally think.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
The whole unbothered is. If you're bothered, you're bothered. You know,
nobody's not gonna tell me. Somebody say, somebody stepped on
your foot.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Oh yeah, I'm not bothered. What would have hurt?

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Somebody ran into my car? Yeah yeah, you know, somebody
put a you know, a rumor about me.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm bothered. Yeah you're yeah, come on now,
thank you, Thank you human being.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
We are bothered, are we? A lot of us? Some
of us are able to move from certain situations quick
and not allowed to put a major up. Absolutely, But
there are some people that are bothering, and some people stay.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Bothered for a long time.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
I think the whole unbothered thing it sounds good, looks
good on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
It sounds tough, it sounds bold.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
You know when yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's like
a word of strength.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Oh yes, I like that. Like yeah, uh I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Personally, I don't really think it's a thame thing. For real.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
We got feelings, of course we all do. We're human. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. So here's a good question. I asked
you this personally before. Do you think that mental health
brings out the drug use or does the drug use
bring out the mental health? That that was a hard topic.

(01:00:42):
You and I we we battle that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I will say I will say yes to both.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
In my case, Like I told.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
You guys early on in the podcast, I said that
when I was experimenting for cannabis, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Raefer. We you cool guys, you all know what it is.
I did it for fun. You know. That's the only
reason why I did it was to have a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I wasn't doing anything to suppress because I was sad
or had a rough dad work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
So I've been through this when I was a child,
and I'm you know, covering up feelings with you know,
drinking or smoking. Absolutely not. Those activities were for fun.
And it's sad because I see people, I know people
that use those things and it's not for funny. Yeah,
they're using it to cope, they're dealing with mental health,

(01:01:34):
they're dealing with real life stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
And you know, real life is kicking. Life is kicking.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody's right now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
And you know, I commend I commend everybody that's navigating
and pushing. Yes, you know, after twenty twenty has been brough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
For Yes, the ones that's standing and still pushing, hanging
in there, guys, strength, God bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
But it's sad that and not saying, you know, drug
uses is oh, you know, I'm not promoting drug uses
or anything like that for certain stuff, you know, for
fund and for a good time, for socializing and all
that stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
But when it becomes your.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Medication, theread to that it's going to a whole different
level and not prescribed and notribed.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Just it affects the mental health because just think about it, guys.
You know, when you don't have it, when you don't
have access to your drugs or your alcohol, your moody.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
You're really dealing with it. You're really really.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Going you're going through going through it, and you shouldn't
have to feel that way. You know, you have a smoke,
if you have a drink. You're supposed to do it,
fel have a good time, and then that's that. It
shouldn't be like you have to have it while you're
dealing with your mental health or anything that's you know,

(01:02:58):
that you're dealing with in your life that might be
darker causing you to feel a certain ways, so you
need to drink or you need to smoke, or any
other type of you know, drug of your choice or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I really feel like it affects the mental health people
or changes your personality.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I think, yes, I agree with him. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
It does a different thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
It creates a dependency, like like you can't function or
cope unless you have that substance with you, you know, guys, Yep,
I agree, mm hmmm hmm, it's true. It's yeah. So
I guess just be mindful and again be mindful and
don't use that to suppress your emotions and where you

(01:03:39):
might create an early demise for yourself because keep in
mind doing that excessively that could lead to health problems also,
so keep please keep that in mind. Down the down
the line, it can make you disabled, it can kill you,
it can be life changing, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Know what guys, even you know, with your mental health,
your mental health, because I don't want to sit there
say where everybody goes to drugs, you know, when you're
dealing with mental health, drugs and alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
When you're dealing with mental health, some people go into.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Other Yeah, you know. It could be sex, yeah, food,
It could be work, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
It can be just constantly on your phone. It could be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
And all of those things to a certain to a
certain extent, can also become bad for you also too,
if you're not doing it for the right purpose, if
you're doing it to cope, it's not gonna it's not
gonna do you any good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Or overcompensate or.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Overcompensate absolutely, spending money, going shopping. I got a thing
for cars, guys. And I'll tell you this. When I
used to feel some type of way or maybe I
was going through something, i'll call it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
I used to call it painkiller.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
So and I'm a sneakerhead guy, so I will buy
a new car or go get the latest sneakers and
all that, and then it would feel good in that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
And then when I got home, or the bill came
or the car note came up, or the credit card Bill,
I was there and feel like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
I didn't need that because I'm still feeling the way
I felt before I even made the person. So once
again that me doing that whole painkiller was only suppressing
something for just a short moment and then reality kicked
in and I'm still feeling some type of way. So
that just goes to say, you know, you got to
deal with those emotions the right way. You know, you

(01:05:28):
can't try to overcompensate your emotions, those feelings, your you know,
anything that you're experiencing. Now, I say, how long as
I got this, as long as I'm doing this, I'm
gonna feel good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I'm gonna be already.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Because mind you, guys, I was no longer smoking and drinking,
you know what I'm saying. So it became other things
that I thought that was going to you know, make
me feel good and feel better when I felt lower
so certain areas, and it doesn't necessarily have to be
you know, mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
This was just you know, dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Life, dealing with peers, family, work, all of that, and
to take away those situations that I was dealing with,
I try to use other things to cope, and oh
that makes me Nah, it doesn't work, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
It doesn't work. It's creating another bad habit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
For real, for real, discover yourselves and and what you know,
what would work for you and what wouldn't work for you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
My my, my favorite line now I say it constantly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Down tappings, check in with you, get yourself together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Everybody is not gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Everybody's not gonna get you a check I'm thankful, so
so thankful, especially for my co hosts. You know, we
we tap in with each other and when we got
to get each other together on some real life stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
We do that. People. You people, we need. You need
good people like that in your corner. You somebody to
be honest with you much.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
You know, when you're messing up, when you ain't thinking
right the right, that may not be making the right
decisions and all that stuff like that. You know, you're
out there all willy dilly and all of that. You
got you gotta have a person that has that much
love for you. And not to see you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
How you said, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I want to see you when yeah, or just.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
You don't want nobody to see you just just go down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Oh yeah, see your downfall, Yeah, watching you fall also
during the way, watch out for that, too got this
mental health, Watch out for that. Seriously, young people, that's true,
that's true, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Anytime you're you know, you're dealing with your mental.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Health and tell somebody, tell you go take a drink,
go smoke this bell, take away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Nah, don't talk it out. Learn to talk it out.
Remember communication is key. Absolutely talk it out. Absolutely, walk
it out. Talk it out. I know that they anger
could be part of mental health. And there was a
too B movie I had watched a few weeks ago.
I don't know the name of it, and it was

(01:08:07):
a pastor or preacher in the movie. He said something
and I said, I'm gonna share this with the podcast.
I had to write it down. He said that unforgiveness
leads to anxiety and depression. So again, we're mental health.
So I don't know how I feel about that. I said, wow.
I had to dig deep in that. I said, wow,

(01:08:29):
it could work that way because I guess it's holding
you back on dwelling on the issue and not forgiving
the person. But then here's the thing, can you really forgive?
Sometime I feel like people say that and they can forgive,
but then sometime I feel like it could be kind
of phony sometimes. Don't keep it real. It could be
kind of phony sometimes and it sounds good. So and

(01:08:51):
then there's also a statement you can forgive but not forget.
I'm sure y'all heard about that, my thing? Is that
really true? You know? Is that really true?

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
You know it's that's one of those those double double
Stambard type, and it's it's still confuse you because some
people will say, like say, if a boyfriend or girlfriend
did something, messed up, whatever, violated, and you keep them there,
so you say, well, I forgive them. Okay, so it

(01:09:24):
sounds good, I forget you, But now you said you
forgave that person, right, But now you're doing things out
of anger.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
And then they're looking.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
At you like, well, I thought you forgive me, you know,
I said, But now you know you're acting a certain
way to me, so obviously you didn't forgive me. So
when you forgive somebody, you got to forgive them in
your heart and in your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
You know, it's just not an action thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
You really have to really forgive somebody in your heart,
in your mind because other than that, you're always going.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
To carry that which mental health that head. I have
a good question. Well, I'll have a good question. I
know you'll be going to answering this. So, when you
forgive a person, do you need to be around the
person or tell the person that you forgive them, or
let by gones be bygones.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
It depends on the situation. Because there's some people that
have gate but I also choose.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Not to beat them around. Okay, so that okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
They may not be around me, but if I see
them in passing or anything like that, or maybe if
they might send out a text or a Facebook post
or something like that, I would respond. As far as
them being in my company on the regular, no, no,
So so you get what I'm saying. So I still

(01:10:40):
that's what I was saying. There's some people that I
may not fuck with anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
I forgave them. But no, they're not sitting at the
table with me. But I still got the respect to
say hi, good bye and wish them well. But depending
on what happened for it, what happened in the situation,
it pretty much all depends on that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Okay, I agree with you on that. I do agree
with you on that, because it's just it could be
kind of complex because it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Could be one of those things that may have affected
you that also affected.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Your Tom add on to that, because that's a good
point what he just said. So the fact that your
mental health, you want to forgive them, but why be
around them if your mental health is affected?

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
That's what I'm saying. So that's so that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I said the part about maybe the boyfriend girl friend,
because some people may feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I need my men or I need my woman. I
don't want her to go. But then you're still harboring
those films.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yeah, you can't treat them a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Certain way because what they have done.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
But you said you forgive them, but now you're like
sidehiding them, or you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Trust them, or you're treating them a type of way because.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
They really did affect Yes, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Because anytime anything affects you, you want to have a
side effect to it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
That's true. M hm mm hmmm, their side effects. Just
like medication.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Nobody knows something something to you that doesn't sit well
with you, You're going to always look at that person sideway.
You'll never forget what it is, and sometimes it will
play back in your head. Or you'll always think when
you're around that person, they might do that again, or
they might say that again. It's one of those things.

(01:12:19):
It also depends how bad you want that relationship with
that person, your friend, spouse or whatever, coworker, whatever. It
really depends on that type of relationship because some people
do mess up and they don't mean to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah, yeah, and it happened, And just depends on the
severity of it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
And if you know they're really good people, you can
look past a lot of things you can't, but you're
going to be guarded with them. So that's why I say,
you know, the whole forgiveness thing, it sounds good, but
sometimes I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
That it's hypocritical. I just yeah, but I don't it's
it's hypocritical. And then there was something I wanted to
say and I got like a brain freeze about the
forgiveness thing. Oh my goodness, y'all forgiving and not forgetting.

(01:13:09):
But then again, you could forgive from a distance, but
this is one one way you know you're gonna forgive
a person if you if their name was brought up
and you no longer are harboring any type of ill
feelings or feeling any type of way towards them, then
you honestly know that you have forgiven them or you

(01:13:29):
could be around them. So just remember that and that's
that's that's my takeaway, and it no longer affects you
or you may not want to be around the person,
but as long as you like if you heard the
name everything was brought up, you're not gonna like, you know,
you know, yeah, yeah, or f them or whatever. That's
how you know when you forgive a person. Yep, keep

(01:13:49):
that in mind. I discovered that that's how you know
projection mental health. When we go through things, it could
impact us as well. So when we have projection, we
might put that onto other people where like let's say
seven seven wants to do something and I said, seven,

(01:14:12):
are you sure you really want to do that? Like
I question that because I went through that before, and
I'm afraid that that might happen to you or you
know or or I know somebody who went through that
before and it didn't work. I just want to protect
you and your feelings. I don't want to see you
get hurt. That could be mental health because you're not

(01:14:32):
trying to your fullest or you're stopping what could be
really good on the end or successful on the end.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Projection is also kind of like a fear type of
thing also too, it's a dependent on the situation. How
was you know how the situation is. I would definitely
say it's like a fear thing. And then you also
have people that have negative projection, okay, and then you
have people that have positive projection. You got to be
able to read the people that you're talking to that

(01:15:02):
you're sharing information about whatever you're dealing with, and they're
projecting something on you. You got to know how to
receive it if it's good criticism or if it's negative.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna add on to that because
if I'm quote unquote projecting a feeling, if I know
I have somebody that I'm close with that's going through
something and they're want to make a move that might
seem irrational, and I want to protect them because I
don't want to see them hurt or learn their lesson
the hard way, or if they've done something like that

(01:15:33):
before and it wasn't successful, they decided to do it again,
I don't want to see that or hear that come
back around. So I don't know that could be projection.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
So I mean, you know what, I personally was one
of the friends that projected fear or to some of
my peers from my own person yes, life experience, and
the reason why they I don't personally think they took
it as a negative because they knew that it was
coming from a positive place and I was just letting

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them know what I experienced. But what I also have
learned as I've gotten older at this, you know, this
grown age, is that what's for you is for you,
what's for me is for me, and it's not fair
because of what I may have experience to put that
on somebody else that I care about, because they might
do well in this situation. It might be a different
outcome from them. But you have to express that. You

(01:16:26):
can't be nasty about something and then say well, I
was just looking out for you. You got to tell them like, yeah,
I experienced it so it didn't work out, But also too,
you know, look at this, check this out. Make sure
you do this because this probably could also work out
for you. Every thing it didn't work out for me,
you know what I'm saying, And kind of run with
that because then the person won't be feeling like you're

(01:16:48):
being negative.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
I'm just letting you know what I experienced and it
might be negative, or I'll let you know what if
it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Because you can also project good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
From the people too, that's not always bad for them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Then they looking like, well, you know, you told.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Me to do this, and you'll be held accountable. Why okay, see, y'all,
this this gets really it's like, this gets confusing if
you don't that is true. That is so true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
It's all about how you say it, how you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Word it, where you come the place, the heart.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
And if the person knows that you're a pure good person,
and y'all allow each other to have those conversations about
that type of stuff like that, either way you'll be fine.
But what I've learned to do, specially with my peers
and my family, I tell them, if it feels good
in your heart.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And it feels good in your gut, your intuition, your intuition.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Go for it. Go for it because you don't want
to be held back either. You don't want to be
help and you know what, Okay, and you know what,
Also keep in mind too with mental health. It's okay
to fail. Remember it is okay to have a setback.
It's okay to struggle for a moment. It's okay to fail. Okay,
tack yourself back up. You can fail.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
I speak on it all the time. Guys. Plan A,
plan B, Plan C, and even D if you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Have to, that's right. Yeah, if you have you need
the plan, keep it yup. You won't be disappointed when
you have that plan.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Don't don't get so caught up in your in your
head because when you get caught up in your head,
you called you're thinking too much. You're putting too much
on the brain, and then that also causes other stuff
in the mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Yes, your anxiety will cause your blood pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Amy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
You know you heard the people passing now because they're stressuring,
people vomiting because they're streussure, getting hair.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
All of it, all of it. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
So talk to good people. Talk to good people. Have
a good listening here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Always pick up on good vibrations, y'all, good spirits, good energy, whatever.
Even when you're feeling doubtful about yourself, talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I'm big on manifestation two.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
If you're struggling with your mental health manifest You want
to come out of it manifested, all this stuff that's
going to turn around. You want to get better, or
you're gonna navigate it. I see people all the time
that had schizophreend. They said, you don't have Skitzer friends.
But I live a normal, productive life.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
I'm navigating it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
I know there's a possibility I may not stop hearing
the voice, or I may not stop being paranoid. But
I'm able to take care of my family. I'm able
to have a social life. I'm able to go to work.
I'm able to still have a good time. I navigate it.
I do what I have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
As long as you're still living, you're able to function.
Remember that. Ye you have the power to live. You're
living right now. You can be able to function. Keep
that in mind.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Yeah, every day your feet you wake up and your
feet hit around, that's another day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
For you to turn around.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yesterday yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Always remember that you can always turn.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
It around and look forward for the day tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
No, nothing nothing worth it in your life, and you're
number one. You're your number one priority, So nothing is
more worth it than your life than you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
And then and and and you being happy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
So anything that you go through, if it's worth it,
go through it because there's going to be a good outcome.
It takes time. Remember gods, nothing happens overnight. There's still
such thing as magic. You have to work through it,
and you get through it if number one, have some
type of connection, connection with yourself, self belief, self work.

(01:20:37):
I'm telling you, guys, y'all, y'all get through a lot
of stuff you're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
In your head. Absolutely, you'll get through it. You get it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
All starts with you. Don't make other people your problem.
Don't let their problems become your problem.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Have boundaries, Have boundaries, Listen. They have to have boundaries,
because you'll be no good to nobody if you're not
good for yourself. And I'm going through that now. I'm
trying to be my best self again.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
I've learned over the years, Guys, I had to take
myself out of certain equations, and I've lost some people
because of it, because I was no longer allowing people
issues and things they're dealing with and going through affect
me mentally, because when they're problems, I made their problems
bigger than mine. And then forgot about me. Then when

(01:21:21):
it was time for me to get the help and
the support I needed, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
There because his problems weren't big enough.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Because I made and made mine small ball.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Always remember that too, Your problems are no different. Size
doesn't matter with problems, Remember that, remember.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
That put that mental health first.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
Make sure you first are taking care of yourself, because
if you ain't no good, it can't be no good.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Nobody, nobody else, nobody. And as he mentioned earlier, seven
had mentioned earlier about oversharing. Again it's a this is
a hard topic here because what do we say. You
need to talk to people, but seven mentioned you don't
talk to everybody to everybody or say so much. But

(01:22:07):
we do need to talk though. But again, mental health
over sharing kind of plays hand in hand here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
You have to talk to those that, like I said,
I preach you about it all the time. Guys, safe space,
safe place, those are the people and that those are
the people that you talk to that you know they're
not going to judge you, they're not going to carry
your business or any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
And so and if you guys don't have that, that's okay.
That's why you journal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
You know what I as an alternative.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
That's why you journal, you know what I'm saying, write
out your thoughts any of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
If you don't, if you don't feel like I don't
like to talk, or you don't want people see you
a certain way, that's fine. It all bottled up into
your head. And if you are able to have access
to your primary doctor or a therapist, y you know,
people may not have the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Money, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
There's free stuff also out there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
There's also if you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Are able to speak to somebody, to a profession.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
At least do that. Do that. And they also if
you feel like you don't want to see people in
person or I'm sorry me rephrase that. If you don't
want to see the therapist or counselor in person, you
can do it by the phone and on the screen,
like yeah, like zooms and stuff. So keep that in
mind that that's on my agenda to y'all. So hopefully
in a few more months or whatever, and even next year,

(01:23:29):
I'll tell you all about my experience. I do want
to do that too. You're not a let guys in
therapy yep, yep. Tell the therapy they call it, you know,
And it could be virtual removed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
So it's yeah, assurance, it's calm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
It's just you and that person and you just you know,
letting it out and just releasing the things that you
can't you can't release the other people you find letting
it out and you don't have to worry about it
going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
And then they don't know you don't know. That's the
thing about it, they don't know you in Another good
thing is that therapist is going to make you figure
out your problems. They're not going to solve it though,
like those ax probing questions, you know, to kind of
get your mind to have a different mindset or change
the way you're thinking. But you're going to be in power.
You're going to be control over this. Remember that they

(01:24:16):
can't change it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I'll say. Everybody may not be spiritual.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
So yeah, yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
The people that are connected to whatever your higher power is,
whatever your belief is, connect to that also too, because
it works if you work, you guys, I'm telling you
it work.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
That's true. I saw that one of the mental health things.
I did see that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Absolutely he's right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Trauma bonding, y'all, this is happening, you know, like say,
for instance, of me and seven are going through things.
Oh I've been through this, I've been through that that
could affect mental health. I think trauma bonding.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Sometimes that can be really depending if you are one
of the type of people that are trying to get,
you know, to grow past trauma and move from it.
You you have to be very cautious because some people
get comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
In those.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
The norm it becomes their normal, so they it becomes
toxic and they some people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Enjoyed that type of you know. So, yes, some things
may bring you to bring you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Like a couple of my friends, I always said all
the time, certain things we have a comment made us
even closer that we might experience growing up as children.
But we also then allow those things to turn into
negative things in our life and have negative outcomes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
It was just like we were able to Oh you
went through that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is where I am today. Yes, yes,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Not somebody that's like, Okay, well my partner does drugs,
so I'm gonna do drugs because my partner does drugs
and we.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Just want to do it together. There you go, there
you or they don't want to and you have to
remove yourself from that because what's that going to do?
Bring you down?

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
So that's the same thing with mental you know, mental
health and also to having that trauma bondage.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Yeah, it can also bring and start a relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
But then you also got to know what y'all's too
purpose is in this and are y'all both want to
be able to bring each other out of that type
of negative.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
Situation or you're going to hold each other back or
y'all gonna be holding each other back yep, because we
both know you know, you hear a couple of staying
together because all they do is fight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Well that's all we saw coming.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Up and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
You like, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Why you take her back?

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Why you take him back? Because they're comfortable in it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
That's their bonding, that's their trauma, that's their that's their toxicness.
So you gotta be able with that type of bonding
like that. Guys, it has to be temporary, temporarily. If
you're in one of those situations, you got to see
if there's going to be any good come out of that,
because there are broken people out there that end up
turning lights.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Around and have good yes, yes, yes, some.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
Of them need to work, some of them need the
time to get together, some of them just need another
good person in their corner.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
But once you start to see if that's affecting you
and that's not bringing the good out in you, it's
bringing the worst out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
In you, then you have to remove your stuff from
that type of bondage.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
That's right if you don't want to live that lifestyle.
Some people do. But if you don't want to like
something the reiterating that's absolutely true. Giving this is a
new thing to y'all. You hear this quote, I'm gonna
give the same energy they gave me. Is that good
for mental health? Y'all? I'm I'm gonna do the same

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thing they did me, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
I'm big on that one. I'm big on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
I totally believe giving the same energy somebody gives me
because I don't want that energy to get stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
On me and then I'm old and that that energy
that came.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
My way, especially if I knew my energy was already
good and set and I have pure intent. Everything was
good on my end, and then you come at me
with some negative energy and you think you gonna walk
away from me. No, I'm gonna have to put that
back on you. Uh And maybe that might be a negative. Guys,
I ain't perfect. I ain't never said I was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
It might be his protective that might be my that's
my defense, his protection there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
You ain't gonna get one on me, you know what
I mean. So that's what I kind of mean by
that guy, like you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Know, or is it like treating people accordingly? Like this
is what you treat me, So I'm gonna treat you
like that. Well, I'm gonna treat you good. You treat
me bad, So I'm gonna give you back that same
energy and see how you like it. And you know what,
how you like me now?

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
And you know what guys can And that's good said that,
because some people are so kind and so good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
To people that still am.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
And then you have nasty people out there because of
what they may experience. But they think that it's okay
to treat and talk to people that are good like
that's right, And what that eventually does it brings down
the value of that good person. Then they start to
have to think, well, maybe if I act yes, I'll
be treated better if you know because you know what

(01:28:59):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So that right there. Nah, you don't. That's why I'm
big on that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
No, no, no, you give the same energy that is
given and then that also builds respect. Then that person
will know that they don't got one on you and
they can't disrespect you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Now it's all about it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
You don't have to get ugly, you don't have to fight.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
It could be a just a look in your face
or maybe a word that you say that shuts the
whole situation down, and that person will know not to
ever try to attack you or come for you in
that type of way again, because you you have to.
If you don't respect yourself, nobody else is going to respect.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
You gotta have respectpect.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
So when you standing tall and firm and you let
me know like I'm a good person, But don't don't come.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Over here with that, I'm not because I'm not with that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
You know. If you come over here with some bs,
I'm gonna give it back to you. So if you
want this to go smooth and everybody be happy, you
stay over there. I say. If you can't come at
me correct, don't come at all.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
After you stay your lane, I'll stay in mind, and
nobody has to get our character.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
That's right, that's right. Peace about to say, were about
to stay at the same time, Yes, yes, in the energy, Hello,
in the energy. This is also too important. Now we
see what's going on with the world, the economic crisis.
What's been going on? Money y'all? Financial trauma, money trauma.

(01:30:24):
That is a big thing to mental health, y'all. Look
it up online. Mental health, money trauma, financial trauma, y'all
trying to make it. We're one pay check away from
being what could be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Don't beat you. Don't beat yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Don't beat yourself up. Just do what you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
That's goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Do not kill yourself, especially at these jobs and all that. Guys.
Guess what if your stress takes you out because of
a heart thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
You stroke out and you die. That's what your physician
is going to be up twenty four hours. Yeah, while
your family is making arrangement.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Yeah, yes, money, money is affecting a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
It is right now, look at.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I want to say that you gotta stay positive.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Happen to any of your hidden talents, because I'm telling
you people, there's so many different ways to get money
out here, and you don't have to.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
Kill yourself to get it, and you don't have to
sell yourself to be out on the shoots or anything
like that. You just gotta be You just got to
know how to navigate this stuff out here. Tapping to yourself.
It could be a gift that you have and you
can make money off of it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
More idea or something like that. You could do something
you know, you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Know, guys, And it's also all about who you know.
That's why I would say, find those state people, talk
to those safe people. You know, some people that might
be business minded or whatever that might pertain to what
you're trying to do to make money.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
You just never ever know who they may nail or
who they.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
May know, what they want to you know, invest or
support or whatever the case may be. I might be
getting off a little off track, but but it's just
part of the whole money trauma put out. But I'm
just saying this, guys, just don't kill y'allself out there
to give another dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Your friends going to miss you when you're Yep, they're
not gonna remember.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
They're gonna remember the time and the good times y'all
spend together.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
They're not gonna want to remember when she was always
at work or he was always at work, work.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Right right, right exactly, you know what I mean, Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Because it was busy working the building.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Yep, yep, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
So you get George, do what you gotta do. Just
don't kill y'allself to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
You know, work smart, not hard, guys, and spend time
with your family and your friends, your loved ones.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Number one. Make time for yourself, Yes, make time for yourself.
Do those check in with yourself. Make sure your mental
health is good, and spend time with your family and
friends when active.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Memory, even if it's sitting at the park, sitting on
your home, you know, having to drink, listen to music you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Know, or walk into the park going for car rides.

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
You you know, your your partner, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, whoever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
You know what I'm saying. Every little thing counts to
make it worth it. Don't kill yourself at these jobs
or let the money situation, in the economy situation, the
government situation killed or kill you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
See, And the thing about it is too because we
live in the economical society. Nothing's pretty much for free.
So every that causes a lot of stress on us.
We got to pay our bills in order to have things,
in order to do things, so that creates a lot
of stress, you know, mental health for real.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Spending time with family is free, spending time with friends,
it's free. That love is free, those connections are free.
So if money is an issue, y'all should still be
able to be able to enjoy you with your partner
as free.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
You should be able to your children as free. Make
some type of an enjoyment in time for those types
of things, and money doesn't have to be to be
the smallest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Like I said that sitting on the porch, unco car
right walking in the neighborhood, go sit at a family
member's house, watch old movies or something like that. Anything
is worth it. Mom, You're able to take time for
yourself and for the ones you love.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
I love what you said. I love it. I love it.
I love it. But here's a question that what if
there's an activity that does involve money. You know that
that that does plan your mental health y'all, And I'm
sure some of y'all might be going through this. We
need we need money to do things, especially we want
to be living that kind of lifestyle, you know, with
the pricey, pricey type of things. You know, we need
the money to do it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
I'm just speaking on the softer side of things, you know,
because yeah, a trip or go to an expensive restaurant
or you know, go to certain places with family and friends.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Unfortunately, so what.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I'm saying is regardless if you can't do that, small
things still count to That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Okay, you heard them, right, y'all. You heard them. You
heard seven.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
May you best to get time not just your dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Excuse me. Okay, we about to use that as a
post on our social media. Remember that y'all heard it first.
And then we're not gonna touch long on this because
this might be another topic also. We might do its
own topic eventually social media, y'all. They said that's given

(01:35:24):
mental health issues again, remember the news uh they're seeing
Uh seven refers to it as the obituary by seeing
people dying on there, he said, you know, seeing that
all the time, just seeing bad things happening, it's it's
not good for mental health, but it does promote like
connections and closeness with people and catching up with people

(01:35:46):
with family, friends, co workers, old classmates, things like that.
But I feel there is a downside to social media,
and like I said, that might be another topic uh
in the near future, because it is just not good.
I think it is playing on mental health. People see
what people are doing, they're living the life. Remember, they're
living the lavish life, and somebody watching them might feel

(01:36:06):
that they're not living up to that kind of standards
or that life. That might do something. I think kids
were also getting depressed on there too, bullying. I hate
that topic. There were some other things too that were
affecting mental health with the children. I just can't remember
off the top of my hand or my head, but
the internet cyber bullying. There was something else though too,

(01:36:27):
related to mental health, and I think that might be
the same thing with adults. Feel where you see that
people are doing stuff and thriving and you've kind of
feel left behind. But I always said, we don't know
what goes on behind closed doors. We always put our
best face and foot forward, remember that, So we're not
going to show what's going on behind the lens behind
the video. Don't get caught up because we don't know

(01:36:50):
what's really going on. So, like I said, we'll probably
have another topic about that social media, we'll probably end
up hitting that. But that does affect mental health. And
if you know that it's affecting your mental health at
this current time, feel free to put the phone down,
the computer down, the laptop down, the tablet down, whatever
device you're using to get connected, to get away from

(01:37:10):
it so you can reset and recharge yourself. It's not
being jealous of nobody. It's not feeling like low self esteem.
Sometimes you just got to know who you are and
work on yourself and not be comparing your life to
other people or living vicariously through other people.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
And I will say this too, guys, there are some pages.
I'm sure they're on Facebook if I'm not mistaken, maybe
even TikTok. But there are some groups on there too
that are like mental health groups. Like you're going on
there and encouraging people and stuff like that, because I
see a lot of times people just go on their
their page and say, hey, life sucks, I want to die,

(01:37:46):
or just crying and you know, and going through all
their stuff and they're putting out there and some people
may get off on your misery. You know, some people
put up prayer emojives when they're really not even praying
for you. So I will say there are some stake
places even on social media, not all of them. And
once again, like you know, putting all those types of
feelings and your emotions out there on your personal page

(01:38:08):
for people to see and judge you, sometimes that doesn't
make it easier for your current situation. Some people may last,
some people might screenshot to send somebody else all of that.
But I will just say there are some positive groups.
You got to look them up. There's groups, there's groups,
there's groups, there's groups for people to meet up. There's like, uh,

(01:38:30):
what you call the our signs, what's that called the walks?

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
There's people that talk about mental health.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
There's all types of different groups that you guys can
also tap and look out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Putting all your personal business on your main page and
you know, be judged or be talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Because once again, when you are struggling with mental health
and dealing with anything that you and it doesn't have
to be mental health. It could be your job, it
could be family, can be friends, whatever, whatever you're dealing with.
Everything and for everybody if you want positive reinforcement. There's
also some good groups out there also too that you
guys can definitely tap into. I don't know a lot

(01:39:09):
of them, so I'm not gonna say anything, but definitely,
you know, typing, typening your search key, and you're going
to see some stuff out there that will also kind
of put you in a better ease too.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
All right now, and we're running short on time real quick,
I'm gonna say something that struck my attention. So a
few weeks ago, I had met up my nieces and
they disclosed to me that they're afraid if there is
a lockdown at their school. They said, they don't know
what they will do, and if they were in the bathroom,

(01:39:41):
they're afraid, you know, of their lives or you know,
because they don't know what could happen because the teachers
can't open the door during that lockdown process. So I'm
you know, thinking, when they're talking to me about this,
I'm like, whoa, you know, y'all go, y'all thinking like that,
that is a that is anxiety.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
It's happening so much, it's so much.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
And it's common now, So I know, those poor my
poor nieces are going through that, And I said, they're
having to live in, like you said, in fear, and
I felt that that could create an early onset of mental.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Health, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:16):
And it's funny to say that, Astra, because when we
were coming up here, we're millennials, y'all born in the eighties.
But I remember, and I can't say it it's for everybody,
but I remember hearing it a lot, And even as
I've gotten older, I hear a lot of people say
school was their safe place their teachers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Wow, see how you brought that around.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
And now it's like now you can't even go to
school and feel safe and protected because.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
Of the what's going on in the world suppressing you know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
So you know, definitely talk to your kids about that.
Always make sure that your.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Children are fully aware of their You don't want them
to live in fear.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
You don't want them to be hiding.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
In the house because they think that something's going to
happen to them. But also just talk to your kids
so they can have that type of awareness and understanding
and what to do kind of guide them and so
they won't have that type of anxietycause once again that
that's anxiety. That's fear, and that can lead into other things.
You know, absolutely, to think, hey, well we go to
the movies with some friends.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
You know, they might shoot up the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
I know, so kind of just have those conversations like, hey,
you know, if you have the highness is what you do?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Or you know, you don't walk up to cars, you
don't talk to.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
People you don't know, you know, if your teachers say,
you know, stay here, don't move you you know all that,
just you know, have those open conversations to protect the
children because once again that fear can also create some
type of mental.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Again and at an early age, and that's early they're
going through that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
You know, they are they are you know, so we.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Got to protect them absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Guys, thank you so much. Very good topic, y'all, very
good topic on this. I also want to mention we're
about top up. If you want to write to the
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We got some more hot stuff coming up for you, guys.
You don't want to miss it. This is just the beginning,
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(01:43:07):
got anything else you got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
So I want to do. I do want to say.
If you or someone you know of as the need
of mental health resources, please go to find Support dot
gov for suicide or a crisis call or text nine
eight eight or chat at nine eight eight lifeline dot org.

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