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September 27, 2025 76 mins
Clocking In: The Real Tawk on Work and Careers. Join Aster and SeVen as they dive into the ups and downs of the 9-to-5, sharing personal stories, exploring the highs and lows, and tackling tough topics like job hopping, the Sunday scaries, and discrimination. From the struggles of having an ethnic-sounding name to the surprises of being an entrepreneur, they're discussing it all. Tune in for honest conversations, relatable experiences, and a healthy dose of humor. Because let's face it, work is a big part of our lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to the Sofa Talk Podcast. I'm your co.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Host astor I'm your co host seven.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let's talk it out and lounge it up. Reappreciate you listening.
This is episode six and the title of today's episode
is you know I'm about to sing work, Work, Work.
Every time I want to say work, work, work, I
think of Rihanna. Shout out to her for that song.

(00:29):
Today we're going to talk about the nine two five.
Shout out to Dolly Parton for that song too, that
true song that's right working. Oh, y'all know, I hate
the jobs.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Welcome back, so aswerm what did you think with these jobs?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
You hate the jobs? You don't got nothing good to
say about the jobs? Like? What is your whole thing
with employment? What is it? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
First off, y'all know I be all to listen to
the debut of Sofa Talk Getting to Know Myself and
seven as well as you know, the Sofa Talk Podcast,
getting to know what we were behind that, where we
stand behind that. Y'all know during that introduction when I
introduced myself, I mentioned what I say, y'all fuck these jobs,
and y'all heard it. I said it clearly in loud.

(01:36):
Fuck these jobs. And I was waiting to record this
episode and have this uploaded because I have a strong
hate for the jobs. Yes, I know I shouldn't feel
that way. Why because they give us money, right, they
keep us employed, They keep our bills afloat. If you're
making enough money, that's another story too. You know, I'm saying.
They do keep things going and running and give you

(01:56):
experience and wisdom and things like that. I just can't
stand them, and not only me, guess who else can't
stand them. I'm gonna give y'all a little hint. Hint
you all can't stand them either. Listen to this, y'all,
and here's my proof. Last year, we posted a meme
on September twenty seventh of twenty twenty four and shout

(02:18):
out to the creator of that meme. We didn't do that.
That wasn't our our work, our body of work. But
there was somebody. We can't give credit to the person.
We don't know who did it, but there was somebody
who created a meme and was based on set it off.
It was the I'm so tired of working, y'all, with
the crying emoji, the engagement and feedback we received on

(02:38):
TikTok was all we need to know that y'all feel
the same way. Y'all tired of working. Y'all are tired
of working too. That's all we need to see was
that y'all are tired of working too. And also too.
There was another post that we created. This was our
body of work that we did our little meme last year.
It was talking about work related to work and it

(03:02):
received a lot of views also and just a few
people commented. But this was posted on ten eighteen, twenty
twenty four, and again TikTok shout out to y'all. Y'all
alway show us love on there. Y'all gave us the
those views on there, and this was this what the
memes said. It said, dear employer, when I put my
vacation or PTO hours in to request time off, I'm

(03:22):
not asking you for permission to take those days off.
I'm telling you I'm taking those days off. I earned
those hours, Sincerely, your hard working employees. You damn right,
You damn right. So some of y'all y'all knew what
was going on with that till y'all put y'all PTO
times in or whatever, and the supervisor gives you hell
for that. That's another reason why I know that y'all
don't like yall jobs or at tie your jobs. Another

(03:42):
thing too, I'll get back to me. I'm getting to
y'all first. When y'all call customer service representatives at the
call center, right, y'all, when y'all call them at the
call center or any type of service you need, customer
service you need, aren't those representatives rude as fuck? They're
fucking rude as fuck. They hate their jobs. Anybody answering phones, reception,

(04:07):
customer service anything, They're fucking rude as fuck. Now I'm
keeping it real, am I Right.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I had my encounter yesterday.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, you're encounting yesterday. Do you think they like their job?
Tell me that. Do you think they like their job?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Either they don't like their job, or they're just busy,
or I don't know, or they got something going on
at home. I don't know, but the lately the customer
service experience I have been receiving is just not polite.
Behind they don't want to help their you know. And
then some some people that especially the ones that work
from home. You like hear the TV or maybe a

(04:41):
child in the background, or the one thing I hate
is when you're talking to them and then they pause
and it's like do you hear me talking to you
or something like that, like hello, and then yeah, I'm here.
But it's like the whole like, yeah, I don't know.
Customer service has been badly b It's just not the
same as it used to be back in the day.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know, people took pride.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
In their job, thank you, and professional. They were very
professional and kind on the phone, right, It's not the same.
So that's that's how I know too that people hate
their jobs. It's it's just not aster is everybody else,
and there's some people who do like them. So that's
a good point. So you know what, y'all, I don't

(05:25):
know why I'm drawing a blank. I'm gonna be real
with y'all because I had so much passion and heat
for this topic. But I am drawn a little bit
of blank. I guess because there's so much that happened
and there's so much to talk about. So I'm drawing
a little bit of blank. Care why do you hate
the jobs? But I know, like, for instance, I'll give
you an example. So when I first graduated college with
my undergrad degree. Undergraduate degree, I have received my first job.

(05:49):
This was over ten years ago. I'm looking almost twenty
years give them my age away, but y'all know it already.
And then I remember, you know, I got I'm terminated.
I think I was there for maybe less than ninety days.
I was in that probation period. But then the way
they did it, they were tracking me, you know, they

(06:09):
had you know, bullet points of what I was in
doing right instead of helping me to you know, do
it right, like you know, that made me look have
a different.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Album long job.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It was like a setup. Yeah, that was the first job.
You know, I'm excited, Oh I got my job whatever,
and then that job was a shitty ass job and
let me yeah yeah. So I just felt there was
they just kind of set me up to do that,
like to fail. And then the way it was documented
for me to get terminated, and it's just it was
fucked up, y'all. It was fucked Up'm gonna be real,
it was fucked up. It wasn't professional, it was fucked up.

(06:40):
I felt like they had something against me or a
motive obviously against me. And I'm gonna say this, y'all
because I, like I said, I'm not giving a fuck
because remember I told y'all that's going to be thrown
out the window for this episode because I have so
much heat for these fucking jobs out here. I'm gonna
tell y'all with that first job I'm talking about after
I graduated college that went with my degree, it was

(07:02):
a Quasi Moto looking bitch, that supervisor. And y'all know
I told y'all, yeah, y'all, And the debut sofa talk,
I explained to y'all that I don't watch a lot
of movies. Remember, y'all know I don't watch a lot
of movies and things like that, and you know, my
people make fun of me and make jokes on me.
And I never saw The Hunchback of Notre Dame. I
never saw that movie. But I know who Quasimotive is.

(07:23):
I'm very familiar with Quasimotive, and that supervisor looks just
like quasimotive, ugly bitch, so fuck you. And I still
don't like her. I know his years gone, everything, I
still don't like her because she's evil, so fuck fuck you.
Also too, I think with the jobs mental health, sure
you agree, to right. Absolutely, people are choosing mental health

(07:43):
over jobs. People are quitting jobs without having a save
these account, you know, backup plan or thank you for that,
a backup plan. You're quitting jobs because it's it's your
mental health. I feel that the jobs nowadays are deteriorating
people's mental health and minds's too. My last job, minds
was too, it was deteriorating, awful. I feel free that

(08:06):
I'm gone from that place, but my mental health seriously deteriorated.
So mental health and jobs they don't go together. Some
of them they don't go. So another thing too, that
is a like, like I have something to pick with
jobs my last job, I was just out, what is
going on with supervisors or directors or people in leadership

(08:28):
that don't know what the fuck they're doing to lead
a team? Oh yeah, I mean, is this the new
norm that we're in now?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Because anybody just getting a position nowadays and don't have
no experience. And the sad part about it is the
crazy part about it is is like they they're hiring
people off of their education, yes, of degrees, off of
degrees and stuff like that, which is cool, but would
you rather have somebody that has done this line of

(08:55):
work before, or somebody that's just fresh out of school
knows the book part of maybe the job, but not
really have the field expense also too, you know what
I mean, don't I don't know what they be doing.
And then you know, those people they end up quitting
stuff like that because the people that they're coming in
to manage or supervisor, they're looking at them like, you don't.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Know what you're doing exactly, You have no idea exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And you're you know, you're coming in as an authority
figure pretty much, and it's like, you know, the the
staff was looking like.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
What the fuck is going on? Like what is this?
You have no experience? So it's kind of like, you know,
people got to stop.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Hiring off of just off of education and go and
go off with some experience, somebody that can get the
job done, somebody that can lead or that's familiar with
the line of duty.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
That ship baffles me, man, that's it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I never heard of such. And the last job was
that that was a job from hell. And it wasn't bad.
Like I said, my workload wasn't too bad. You know,
I like I like working in smaller settings, more intimate settings.
I'm not like a corporate girly or you know. I
like working in small I need a small company jobs,
but not too many people. This is my personality. Fit's
well with that, So it wasn't too bad. It was

(10:09):
just the fact that management and leadership didn't know what
the fuck they were doing, and I was doing their
fucking job along the way. That's why I was time
to cut and get the fuck out of there. Yeah,
the fuck out of there. Thank you so much. I
feel free. I feel free. Thank you so much. I
feel so free. I have other things to work on.
I got some new things I'm doing, but I feel good.

(10:31):
I feel free. But that's my whole thing with with jobs.
Am I missing anything? Because you know me well, when
I complain about the jobs or Vince, I'm not gonna
say complain Vince about the jobs. Is there anything that
I missed out a little bit? Like like I said,
y'a'm drawing blanks. And I had so much to say, y'all.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I know, I know one thing I feel like with me,
like my experience I've had. I've been in the medical
field for a long long time and I've kind of
done a little bit of other other things too, but
I'm main career choice was health care and stuff like that.
And I remember a job that I had at one
time and I actually had to pull up my supervisor

(11:09):
and I had to tell my supervisor like, if I'm
lacking in certain areas, yes, please address it so I
can fix it. And one time I was I want
to say it was probably definitely maybe after my ninety
day probation, probably maybe six months into the job or whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I got called into the office and it.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Was like a group of higher ups in there or whatever,
and I don't want to say I felt attacked, but
I was definitely bothered the way I was addressed. And
they had asked me like, so is everything okay at home?
You know, are you going through anything? And I'm like, what.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Does this have to do with, Like why am I
even here? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
And to find out, I had some errors in some
of the work that I was doing documentation or whatever,
and the first thing they went to was are you
having problems at home? And one of the errors I had,
I actually did it about two to three times, which
was kind of serious because they had to do with medication. Okay, right, okay,
and which is very serious. And I said, why didn't

(12:10):
y'all say something the first time? Why would y'all wait
up to three times of me making the same mistake
if I didn't catch it, And mind you were on camera,
there's somebody else there in the room with us.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
While we're administrating.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Why in the fuck did it take three incidents for
this that happened for y'all to call me in and
then y'all set me down like some type of fucking intervention.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes, man, I was offended.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
And when I walked out of that office that day,
I got in my car and I thought, like, this
might be it. I might just be done because one
thing about me, I don't got a problem.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Walking off the job.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I've done it before.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I've been a lot more cautious now because I'm a
parent now I have more responsibility, so I don't, you know,
I make sure I got something and lined up or
whatever whatever before if I have to. But it taught
me a lot about I had to put my grown
man pants on, and then I didn't go jump into
the younger virgin of me, because the younger virgin of

(13:12):
me was said, fuck this, come out. And then I
had to think about, Okay, how the business are, how
these people are, this is how they do. I'm kind
of new in this field that I was at. It
was some experience, but I was new to that. Yeah,
that type of feel the work. And I was like, okay,
let me try to make sense of this. So then
I said, you know what, I'll go ahead and dress
my actual manager and I'll say to her, you know

(13:36):
what for now on, just so we can have an understanding,
because I'm the type of person if something's wrong or
let me know the t get me in order, let
me know, Hey, you know you did this, but if
you do it this way, this, you know whatever, whatever,
don't wait till the end, because sometimes you wait to
the end somebody case their job, when something could have
been fixed right there in the beginning. And so the

(13:57):
same thing you said like you felt like it was
a set. I felt it was kind of the same
thing too, like what the hell is this? And I
try not to be one of them type of people
like oh they're picking on me or something personal or
a race thing. I don't.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I try to think bigger than that.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
But I definitely advocated for myself and let it be
known like, I've been in this field for.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
A long time.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I have a decent amount of experience, but if I'm
lacking any in any area, please let me know so
I can work on it. And honestly, after that discussion,
me and my supervisor had a way, way better work relationship,
and I think even made her feel even more comfortable
and feeling like she's like, uh, what's it called when

(14:40):
your supervisors like over when they're overlooking you, like constantly
on your back while you're working. What's that called micromanaging
and all that? And so after me and her kind
of had that type of conversation and got a better understanding,
it wasn't like micromanaged, like it could just be like
a simple text. You can text me or email me
like hey, okay, cool, I'll take care of it, And
it just build the better relationship versus like people smiling

(15:03):
on your face and you're fucking up on the job.
Nobody's not saying nothing that one day you come to
work all happy and it's like we need to see
you at all, but.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
You know, and you sit around like what did I do?
You know?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Everybody's smiling, everything seems good. And so after that me
and her had a lot of way way way better
supervisor and employee relationship, and it care. And I actually
stated that job a little bit over three years and
I grew in the company and I had got two raps,
two or three raises actually and all of that. But

(15:35):
I say this to say that, like I said, that
was in the beginning. But I felt also felt like
if I didn't advocate for myself, I probably wouldn't even
lasted there, or I would have just end up walking
off if I didn't think about let me think maturely, immaturely,
you know, let me kind of think that they're thinking.
Let me kind of step into because I'm a reader,

(15:55):
you know, I can kind of read.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Stuff and pick up on energies and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
So after that, I was kind of like, so, this
is how they run things, this is how they do it. Yeah,
so let me start over checking my word right, or
pull somebody in just to double you know, just to observe, like,
you know, you see the same thing I'm seeing or
something like that. And then and then I felt like
I actually built built more character for myself, and then

(16:21):
I just got a better understanding and it turned out
to be a good position after all. But that was
one of those type of situations also too, And.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I'm glad you brought that up too, because I wanted
to mention this to the sofa talkers out there or
the audience or listeners also too. You see what they
did to my homie seven there, so when in myself too, also,
when they do things like that, when the employers do that,
or leadership does that, your supervisor does that, it gives

(16:52):
you a sense of sometime your confidence at work could
be low, like you won't believe in yourself when things
like that arise, my correct like your confidence impacted you
know what I'm saying, or if you know you're right
on something like my last fucking job, I was just
that I was right on some ship because they didn't
fucking know what they was doing over there, and I
knew more ship than they did. They try to, you know,

(17:13):
try to second guess what I'm saying, which is right,
but they was really wrong, you know what I'm saying,
So then that plays on your confidence. I don't know
if y'all dealing with the same thing too, but that
ship fuck is fucks with your head up and your
confidence when you know you're the ship. You know you're
doing your ship, you know you got it going on,
and you know your ship. Then you have a supervisor
that don't know shit, make you feel like you don't
know shit or you're not ship. I don't know if

(17:34):
y'all going through that too, but I want to highlight that.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Too, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
And I know seven mentioned before this was a good
topic him and I had off of this off the podcast,
feeling guilty about calling off work. Are y'all dealing with that?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Like those are?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's one of my things. I mean, I constantly and
a lot of the times I'm the version, the version,
the version of me. Now. I used to never give
never give a fuck about calling off of work. I
would lie something happened this in that blah blah blah.
But but now when I do call off of work,

(18:10):
it is because something's going on.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
You know, Yes, it could be a kid.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Sick, it could be a family emergency, or even my
something going on with me or whatever. And honestly, people
shouldn't have to feel guilty when they take.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Off of work. Absolutely now, And I don't.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Know what it is with me, but this this job
that I'm currently at, which I'm grateful for and I
think I'm thankful for and all of that, and I
actually I like it. It has its ups and downs,
but it's probably been my best job today, I'll say.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
And when I.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Do call out, I just have some type of guilt
and I'm actually not calling out for no bullshit.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah that's the thing. Like sometimes if you know, back
in the day, I know, call off.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
For some bullshit and them like I should but whatever,
but now and laugh it off. But now, like the
whole day that I'm off, I'm thinking, like, damn, I
should have just went to work, or I feel bad
or I don't want them to be upset or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I don't know what it is. I really don't. I
put a lot of pressure on myself about that. And
I've earned my PTO. I have my time, I have
my hours, I have my days, so I shouldn't have
to feel bad.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
And at the end.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Of the day, guys, we are human beings. Shit does happen.
Shit does happen. And see, I think what makes it
a little bit more difficult for me. I will say
this without telling too much information. At my current job, guys,
I am the only staff. I pretty much work for
myself and there's nobody else there and it's a blessing,

(19:40):
wonderful job, good benefits, good money and all that, but
I am actually the only stas So I think that's
why I feel bad because when I do have to
call out because the line of duty that I do work,
somebody else that's actually not a in actual employee has
to step in, like a family member or something like

(20:02):
that has to step in to cover my day.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And that's just you know, that's not.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Going too deep into you know, what I do or
you know, anything like that, but you guys probably can
pick up on it because that's what I've been in healthcare,
so you guys can kind of make sense of that.
And I think that's the thing that that makes me
feel some type of way because I, you know, it's
my job, but I'm a human being, and of course
they only picked one person to work. But it's just like,
you know, it's one of those things I do put

(20:27):
that pressure on myself. Now, if there was like another
staff member or maybe one or two, then I wouldn't
feel bad because I'm like, you know, we gots, we
all can switch off. Or because I had a job,
my last job before this one, it was amazing. Like
you called off, we had pr and people that was
willing to take hours, or we could switch shifts with
you know, all that stuff, and it would work smoothly

(20:49):
when be carried against you loans you had. Well, for
one we accumululated like eight hours of pay period guys,
So that's sixteen hours a month, and then if we
get paid three times that's what was that twenty four
or twenty two or something like that. I like that
twenty four hours in a month when you got that
that third cycle of so we would rack in and

(21:11):
it would just work perfectly. And I will say this,
nobody got fired for attendance at that place, nobody, because
we always had staff, we have PRN, people was willing
to switch shifts because there was a total of three
shifts shifts, so it just always worked out. And so
I think that's why now I think I put that

(21:31):
little bit more pressure on myself now because it's only
me Monday through Friday. But I'm grateful. I've had my
ups and downs with jobs too. When I was younger,
I definitely job pop. I've walked off on some on
my lunch break. I remember I will tell you, guys
this one time I was working, as I want to

(21:53):
say this about maybe over yeah, definitely over a decade ago.
I was working at City Bank City Bank, and it
just it just wasn't for me.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
It just wasn't for me.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I tried it, I was I was entering fatherhood at
the time, so it was like a new opportunity for
me and you know, some growth or whatever, but it
just didn't.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It wasn't my thing.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's not the call center, and you know, it was
just too many different energies, too much noise, and I
just couldn't focus. I couldn't code it together. And one
day I was just like on my lunch break and
I packed all my ship up and it was lunch
break time, clear my desk.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I rolled out and never looked back. I was. I
was out.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
But yeah, so I've had my fair shares. I've been
fired before. But I will say as I've gotten older,
I I do kind of value my jobs more because
of my responsibilities. And it's really hard to find jobs
these days. It's hard to find good paying job.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Me and Astra kind of go back and forth on it.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
She's, you know, one of those type of people that
you know she'll step out on faith, you know she'll
figure it out.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
And I'm the ones that's kind of like standing back,
like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
If I if I jump, I don't know if I'm
gonna make it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
And that's the difference between her and I.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
But it kind of also works because what may not
work for me may work for her, vice versa and whatever,
and we still encourage each other and it actually works out,
it really does. But I don't think I've hated a
particular job. I just didn't like it. I don't mind working.

(23:32):
I've been working since I was fifteen. But what I've
also have learned at you know, this grown age too,
I'm not gonna do any job where I'm.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Not valued.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Their employees either.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And I think that's why a lot of people also
to people are overwork and underpaid, and that it's even
more upsetting, especially like people that may may have been
at the company for a long time and worker asses off.
This could be an this could be McDonald's wherever, and
somebody comes in, Yes, and they're making way more money

(24:07):
than you. Yes, maybe younger than you, may have less
experienced than you, and how does that make you feel
like I've been here saying, hey, I've been here five
six years, and then somebody comes in and they're making
you know, all that type of stuff, you know, plays.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
On people, and we're human beings.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
We all got feelings, we all got bills, we all
got we're all here in this world trying to you know,
trying to make it absolutely and it's definitely frustrating. And
I can see where it has affected a lot of
people's mental health because it's like, Okay, I'm here, I'm
busting my ass and you know, you're overwork, underpaid. But

(24:43):
I think what also can be affecting people's mental health
is too because people have been working since the beginning
of the time, right, yes, regardless off he was on
a farm or you know, slaves some some type or
form of work whatever it was, putting in work. And
I think what's also affecting people is that they're working hard,
and with the cost of living being so high, it's

(25:05):
making them not also value their job too. Yeah, I'm
doing all this hard work, but I can't afford this ship,
you know what I mean. I'm hard work, but I
can't afford this ship. So it's just affecting and it
may not be the job because a lot of us
we chose our job like, hey, this is what.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I want to do.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Some of us went to school for our jobs.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So a lot of it is not necessarily the job.
Some of it is just life also too, and the
job does play in it also too. It just depends
where you are mentally and emotionally. And there has been
and I do believe that jobs do affect the mental
health effect people. They all types of ways. You work
really hard, work doubles, yeah, extra hours, over time, all that,

(25:48):
and then you think about it. You put all that
in they eat it up in taxes. You don't see that,
you know, so all that put effect and it's like
what am I doing all this work for?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You know? So it kind of plays. It plays in
both both ways.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
But I can see how just the outside life of
your job can also and then you bring it in
the outside world and then you have to come to
work and then you're focusing because.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, we're all at work so we can make money.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
To survive and do things and have things purchas, things whatever,
and it's like, damn.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I'm doing all this work. I'm busting my ass, but.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
You know, treat myself to fill my gas tank up
or I can't put groceries in.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
My house or I have to.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
That's a good point, you know, Rob Peter to pay Paul,
you know, I have to have to pay the cardinal
or pay the rent.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
So I see.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Where it's coming, you know. And I see why there's
a lot of content creators now. I see why people
are creating podcasts. I see why people are starting their
own businesses because it's just it's just what's going on.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
People need money.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
It's not the it's not that's what it's not. One
job isn't cutting it. It's not cutting I'm so gludy
how it is those things. Oh my god, thank you
so much for that. Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Kind of feel like we went a little bit in
and out of it, but it all kind of relates
the same.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
It all kind of goes together, all goes together.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
And kudos to y'all people that have been on your
jobs for a long time. Love y'all job plan on
retiring from your job, that's amazing. We're not knocking anybody
that has a job, work for somebody or a business, owner.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Whatever works for you.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Just consider yourself lucky that you're able to have that
because some of us are not.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
People aren't so to have a job, even though we
say fuck them jobs. We hit our jobs, but to
have one into today's econoy or some.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Form of.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Uh finances coming in. You know, hey, it is what
it is. Whatever works for you, how do you get
your money whatever, whatever works for you. But I don't
want people to feel, you know, beat down because they
are working. You know that there might be a person
that's not working that's thriving more because I see that
all the time too.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
People post like on Facebook or certain you.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Know, uh.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
What do you call them social media is and they're
saying like I make twenty five dollars an hour and
I'm struggling. But I see somebody don't work. They on
their way to Miami, or they got a new car
sitting out. And so that makes people feel that that
are actually working and that are working hard. And it's
nobody's been It's how people for their living, how they

(28:25):
get their material you know, materialistic things or whatever it
case may be.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
That's nobody's business.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
But it does put an effect on people that are
out there busting or asking that are working and they're
figuring out how the hell is this person making it?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I'm sitting there.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I actually have a decent pay yes, and I can't
do that.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
You know, so it's frustrating.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's frustrating. I kind of feel like it's not fair. Also,
I'm gonna be real with you on that. I feel
like it's not fair. I also want to say too,
here's a good a good takeaway with this too. We
talked about the customer service representatives early right and people
going to work unhappy. Yeah, okay, leave that at the door,

(29:07):
leave that in the car, leave it at home before
you start your job. Don't bring that energy to your
workplace absolutely, or if you're feeling some kind of way,
tell you're a coworker, your supervisor, whoever, you know what.
This is not me today, I'm kind of feeling not good.
My energy's off, and then we know how to, you know,
back off from you. Just kind of be you know,

(29:28):
keep it real, because your negative energy, your misery can
transfer on to the next person. Yep, like a wildfire.
So just please please be professional and keep your personal
problems that you're going through in the car or at
home or whatever. However you get to work.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And you know, that's something that I learned a long,
long time ago, because, like I said, guys, I've worked
in healthcare since I was eighteen or nineteen. I'm thirty
seven down, so I've got almost twenty years into it,
and I've learned was your patients or clients or whatever,

(30:06):
they can pick up on your energy. Because remember, they
see you eight hours a day, five days a week,
you know, so they see you just about forty hours
a week, and they know when you're happy, and they
know when you're sad, or they know when you're upset,
and they can pick up on that. And one thing
I never wanted to do was going to work to

(30:26):
patients or clients that were looking forward to seeing me
and I'm not smiling, or I'm not have a good energy,
or I'm not nice to them like I'm normally nice
to them because of what I'm dealing with at home
or what i may be going through. So that's something
that I always learned. And you know what, guys, this
also helps too. And I don't want to get off
a topic, but this is something that also helps too.

(30:49):
Me and aster we do this and I've been doing
this for a couple of years now. Either I'll leave work,
I'll leave my home early to get to work early.
Some people, some of you guys, may not be spiritual,
and that's fine, but I am. And so what I
do is every Monday, I do a prayer for the week. Okay,
that's one of my things. That helps also too, especially

(31:09):
on a Monday morning, I feel like, because it just
kind of gets you in a groove, open your mind.
You know, you're like, oh my god, you got another week.
You know, we have to mentally prepare. Another thing is
leaving early so you can enjoy your car ride. You
can listen to music that you want to hear to
kind of get your energy up. Or if there's certain
radio stations where you know they're talking and listen to

(31:30):
certain things or whatever. And then also too, and that
kind of just preps you and get you in the
mood before you get to work. And then or just
sitting in your car, sit in your car for a
little bit before you going, gather yourself or whatever, kind
of turn everything off, gather yourself.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
And then another thing I do also too, because.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Say, hey, if you had a hectic day at work,
and it was bad as bad, and you're coming home
to your you know, boyfriend, girlfriend or children or husband, wife, fiance, whatever, whatever,
whatever happened, children, whatever, and you don't want to bring
that into the house because once again, that's another set
of people that's waiting to see you or happy to
see you. So something I do as soon as I

(32:10):
pull up in the driveway or a parking lot, yep,
sit in the car about ten fifteen twenty.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Minutes, decompressed, turn work off.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Might have to you know, hear a song or something
like that, get your energy back up because you're about
to walk into another stace what I'm talking about. And
I feel like that kind of also helps too. And
I think people are battling with taking everything to work,
which affects their mental health. Then they also think it's
their job because maybe with something's going to may.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Not even be the work.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
It just may be you what you're dealing with, you
know what I mean, So it's whatever whatever works for you, whatever.
But those are just some things that also kind of
help also to guys, especially those that are struggling to
get to work.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then because I'm one of those type of people, once.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I get there, then I'm good. It's like the drag
of my fad to get there. Once I get there
and I get in my groove, it's like I'm glad
I'm actually here. But there are mornings where I wake
up and I'm like, and I should call off on
you know, dragging my feet or whatever and all that
stuff like that. But those little things like that too,
guys also kind of help start your work day or
your work week. It's kind of just kind of taking

(33:11):
in that time for.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
You and getting your energy up.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
It could be music, it can be Hey, you're sitting
your car, drink your coffee or tea or whatever have you,
maybe just quiet meditate for a couple of minutes before
you walk in.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I prefer music music.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
And like I say, I do my weekly prayer on
Mondays just to prepare for the week because sometimes you
might get busy and get because like I said, and
this is no offense to anybody that's not spiritual, but
sometimes we get so busy and our week we forget
to pray, even though it could just take a couple
you know, a couple of seconds.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Or a couple of minutes or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
However, however long you decide to pray or whatever, but
sometimes we forget them, we'll start to feel guilty.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So that's why that was the thing that I diditate
to myself.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'll definitely start my week off with that, and it
just kind of for me. It prepares for that week
and what I'm praying for and you know, and that
help build up my strength to believe that something good
or positive things are going to happen during this whole
entire week and including work and whatever happens after work
and everything else in everyday life. So those are just

(34:12):
some couple of things that you know, kind of help
with that whole work work, work, you know, situation also too.
You know, especially you guys are dragging your feet, and
I know a lot of us are. We We don't
got no choice, you know, unless we got other stuff
going on or we you know, run into money or
were born into wealth. But but other than that, you know,
we we work and we have to do you know

(34:33):
what I mean. So it's kind of like, you know,
building your strength up to get there. And you know,
I'm not telling people to up and quit their jobs,
but I will say this if you if I'm a
type of person that believes in if it's not bringing
you peace, if it's not bringing you happiness, if it's
not bringing you respect, if it's not giving you what
you desire or need as a person, let it go.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Let it go because there's always something better.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
And you don't allow you don't allow nobody to mistreat you.
Or what's the what what's another good word? Like where
you're not valued at the job, like uh, just feeling overlooked,
not value, mistreated, all of that, especially if you're a
person that takes pride in your job and do not

(35:20):
tolerate that people always advocate for yourself, do it with
decency and respect.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know, So you don't, you know, but you got
to let people know. People you know.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You guys got to be firm because if you don't
take saying anything, you know, the jobs will walk over.
And remember this guy, remember this. You could die today
tomorrow and your position is going to be up. Remember
that for somebody else.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So so when we put.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
All these years in these years that we have invested
in with the company or what have you, they could
terminate any day. Just remember that too. This is take
This is some takeaway. It's another takeaway. They could let
you go. Remember they could let us go at any point,
no matter what your tenure, how long you've been there,
they can let you go. So just ease it up

(36:07):
a little bit on yourselves, please do. I've learned that
ease it up.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
So that's why it's important.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
When if you got to take that day, if you
got to take a mental health day, if you have
a family emergency, whatever the case may.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Be, it'll all work out. But take that time for yourself.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Do what y'all have to do and make sure that
you valued and respected at the job.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Stand up for yourself, like, stand up for yourself, and
you can do it in a respectful way. Sometimes you
might got to get out of character. I've done it recently,
you know, I've gotten out of character a little bit.
Sometimes you might have to.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
But you notice it's changed, right, you smoke up a
little bit. It kind of changed that whole dynamic at
the workplace, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yep? Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
So do that because you know I'm the nice one
or whatever, a little passive. But you know, once you
start speaking up for yourself, whether you do do email,
voice communication, video phone call, you know, stand up for
yourself in person meetings, things like that, stand up for yourself,
Stand up for yourself, end up for yourself. Have a
good support system behind me.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh yeah, for sure, talk to good.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
So I don't know if y'all see y'all on the
social media channels. I had asked a series of questions
like nine questions that we wanted to get feedback from
you all, and I'm sorry we might have did it
on the last minute. I'm sorry, my apologies. We know
better next time. We can't do our own poll right
now or do a survey for you all, so we
decided just to access series of questions and just I

(37:29):
guess you all will put the feedback or type it
to us. But we didn't receive no feedback yet from
y'all or at all, so we we're well, I mean,
it's a little homework assignment.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I mean, but I'm sure us. Yeah, let's know what's.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Going on, y'all. So what seven and I are going
to do here, We're just going to ask the questions
that we asked you all during that that little video
that we did. We wanted to get engagement from you
all to see have you all experienced that or are
you going through that? So seven and I go to talk. Well,
we'll ask the question and it's going to be directed
to you all too, but seven and I will talk
amongst ourselves too, to see how we experience these situations.

(38:08):
These nine questions.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
We got nine guys, all right? Question number one, are
you happy at your job? And do you like your job?
If so, how many jobs did it take you to
work at until you found the job that is the
one or your dream job?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Ponder that that question there, Get your thoughts ready for that.
For me, I'm going to answer that. I'm going to
say no, you are the other answer.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I'm gonna say no, that's fair. So I don't have
my dream job. I do have my dream pay.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Okay, So I've worked very.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I've worked my way up, and I'm finally at a
place where I'm.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
A little comfortable. I'm comfortable, so I will say that.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
I do in the future planning on doing something else,
but right now this is working out for me. But
it's not the dream job. But it's a great job,
great opportunity, and it is taking care of me and
my family.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Okay, I like his answer.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
All right, guys, Question number two, are you a job hopper?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I'll answer that I'm a proud job hopper, baby, And
I've known other people who job hop too. Let me
say something on that too, being a job hopper, they
consider that bad. I guess there's not stability. You can
ever leave the job. They say it costs more money
to hire. What is it to hire a new employee
for training and everything if they don't have an employee
that stays with the company or committed with the company.

(39:47):
But guess what. Nobody's obligated to be with the company,
especially if the company runs like shit show. Hello employers,
you're running like a shit show. Nobody has to stay
with you. You can find somebody that has ten years of
experience at one job that come to your job. They
quit within a month. You can rely on that. So
I've seen it happen at my job and other jobs.
I've seen it happen. I'm a job hopper. I've come
across people the gen zs too, some millennials and gen

(40:08):
zs they're also job hoppers, and they're proud job hoppers
because people are not putting up shit with these jobs anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Minis definitely job joboppers.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
And the gends are also sure because they're not putting
up with shit anymore. So employers, it's time to get
used to what's going on with the job hoppers. Get
used to it. And let me make another note about that. Here,
my passion's coming out a little bit. I'm talking fast,
and I'm talking with a different toade. Job hopping isn't
necessarily bad because if people are finding what works for
them to get to that actual dream job as we mentioned,

(40:38):
or the job that is the one, So job hopping
is not necessarily bad. Also too, I personally feel that
when a person's at a job for a certain amount
of years, they're not learning and growing. This is my opinion.
They're stuck in one job, so if they were to
go to another job, they only know one type of job.
I feel when you job hop there's benefits behind it.
You have a sense of exploration, you are not really sagnant,

(41:02):
you are open to no opportunities that may come your way.
So I think there is benefits. You can take what
you learn and bring it to the next job and
maybe help that job out or their department at out
that are lacking in certain areas because you might have
some expertise and knowledge to help them. So job hopping
to me isn't necessarily bad as people make it. See,
I'm sorry, and you have transferable skills that can go

(41:25):
for the job.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I had a good friend. I have a good friend
actually that told me. This was probably about twenty years ago.
She had got me a job at a bank. And
what she told me to say in my interview is
I forgot what the question was. It was a question
she me and her went over the questions together whatever,
and she said, when they asked you this question, tell
them that you're looking for the best, the best, next,

(41:50):
the next best opportunity. And so that's what I pretty
much say when I used to go into interviews. Yeah,
I'm looking for my next best opportunity. That's why I'm here.
If an opportunity present itself, but.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
If it's well, yeah it's good. If it's going to
put me in a better position, I'm going to go
for exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
You can grow professionally, so.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I personally use that. I want to say I started
working at the age of fifteen. I want to say
maybe by the time I was twenty six twenty seven,
that's when my job hopping days slowed down. But I've
always had a job like I've never not been unemployed

(42:28):
over thirty days.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Oh that's good, because imployed a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, like I might have been on unemployment real shit
like that, but I've never literally have been without a
fuck that job since I was fifteen.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
But I would hop them. If I didn't like them,
I would leave and all that.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
But then, like I said, guys, once again, once I started,
once I started my.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Family, That's what I was a man. I had a
man up ticket.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Because now I don't it's not only me I have
to worry about it, you know, it's it's somebody else.
So I want to say maybe the last ten eleven,
twelve years of my life, I've probably had study employment.
I want to say around two thousand and nine, early ten,
I worked at a job, two jobs at the same time,

(43:12):
four years altogether. I gave them four years and then
everything else behind. That's kind of been like two here here, you.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Know, one whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
But I've put time in, but I haven't been like
every six months on a new place. I think my
last my last, like I said, my last current job
was three years. And if this never presented itself to me,
I probably still have been there today. Yeah, and when
was that I started there at twenty nineteen. I left
in twenty three, so yeah, that would have been six

(43:41):
years now. Yeah, if this situation to present itself. But
this was all too well and I'm three years in
here now, so obviously, like I said, it was a
good opportunity. I was looking for the best, knocked the best,
next opportunity, and then knock on my door.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I had move on.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
All right, guys, let's see. Let's see question number three.
Do you get the Sunday scaries with the thought of just.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Thinking about work on Monday?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Do you really enjoy your weekends off without thinking about
your job?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Good question, that's a very good question. How many of
you all out there are going through this where you
can't even enjoy your Today, Saturday or what have you?
Or Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Sunday.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
It sucks because I worked on Fridays.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I get off at six, but I literally feel like
Friday and Saturday that's it.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
And then Sunday it's like are mentally pairing. So Sunday
is like.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Your rest day and whatever you gotta do around the
house or if you gotta do something with the family.
But I try to divide it all up between the
Friday and Saturday. Unfortunately, meantime friend time, family time, you know,
relationship time, father time within those two days Friday and Saturday,
and then Sunday is like sleep, praying for Monday, pepping

(45:02):
myself up, you know, getting ready for the new week
to come. So I definitely can say that I definitely
get the the Sunday Scaries for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, I knew a couple of jobs back in the day.
I would get it where I couldn't even leave work
at work. I would take it to home with me
probably some days in the week, even on the weekends,
and that should be a time where I should enjoy it,
but I really wasn't because I was thinking about the
job with certain jobs that I had, because I'm a
job popper. So I gotten better though as time went on,
I didn't let it get to me as much. I
try to separate it. But I was part of the

(45:32):
Sunday Scaries crew also, and I couldn't even enjoy my weekend.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
So I think it's different for people that work on weekends.
They may not get the Sunday point.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Because at point.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I didn't get I didn't start getting the Sunday Scaries
until I had a Monday through Friday job for the
longest I used to work weekends.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, I would work weekends like my.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Last job was, which was wasn't so bad because I
worked Sunday through Thursday, so I would have all day
Friday off, all day Saturday off, right, and then I
will only work seven to three on Sunday. So then
it was like, Okay, I still got the rest of
Sunday evening, so that wasn't bad.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
But I remember back in the you know, back in
the day where I had to.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Work to twelve our shift seven to seven on Saturday
and Sunday and might have got Monday or Tuesday off,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
So back then I wasn't like, oh, I have the
Sunday scaries.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But now that I have a job where Monday Friday,
it's like.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Damn, I really just got Friday evening all day Saturday.
You know. I don't know why I.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Was exciting to still, you know, work Sunday morning and
still have Sunday evening off, because it seemed like first
ship always went quick and it's like, well, I still
have the rest of the day, chill, do whatever whatever,
and then Monday through Thursday goes quick. It's like Thursday night,
that's it. Friday got all day Friday, all day Saturday.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
But then like here's a good question that with that,
so before we continue, So like, for instance, like said
you were to hang out Saturday and then you gotta
go to work at seven on Sunday? Was that? Ay?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
It wasn't because, first of all, because of the job.
The job was laid back, Okay, it was house setting,
so that wasn't bad.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
And like I said, it went quick, it went so quick.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
And I think also too, because I liked the job,
it didn't really matter either.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, and now I think it's one thing where you
don't like the job, you don't fuck with the job,
you're just doing it. But I actually liked it, okay,
so that's why I was like, yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
It was cool.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
And then I worked with like people that was cool
with so it just made the whole work thing on
a Sunday morning not bad at all.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Okay, that's what I wanted.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Okay. Question number four did you open your own business
because you weren't happy working for other people? Do you
like working for yourself? Is it challenging being a business
owner or would you choose to be your own boss
rather than work for someone else?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Again, no matter what the challenge.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Good question. So I did open a business. The business
is going very slow right now. It's my business is
like based on commission, so I have to kind of
make a sale in order to and I have to
market myself. I have to go harder. I blame myself
for this. I can be going harder on it because
I hate working for people. So this was my other alternative.
Been in business for over a year. Now I need
to go harder. I had a financial setback right now,

(48:25):
so I'm trying to do other things to get money
the supplement the inc of my loss from my other
job I just left. But the only thing was challenging
is just I guess not having the study. Paycheck remembers
commission based, you know. And but once I get my
feet wet, you know, when once business starts picking up,
my name is out there, you know, I get more
confidence to run the business and things like that, I

(48:47):
think it will be okay. I'm going to take whatever
challenge I have multitasked. I'm detail oriented. I stay on
top of my communication, my documentation. I'm very thorough. I
make things easy to explain to people who I come
in contact with also because tell about my voice. When
I'm not pissed off, I'm very warm and welcoming and
I'm very open individual. So I think honestly, even with

(49:08):
the business and when it picks up and does very well,
because we're gonna put that in the atmosphere and we're
gonna put that in the air, we're gonna claim it.
I don't think I will ever want to work for
another motherfucker ever again, for real, And that's for real.
So I'll take whatever comes along the way so I
don't have to work for nobody fucking else again. So
thought of me having to work another job for somebody
just makes me want to cry, y'all. And my face

(49:28):
right now is in utter disgust because I cannot stand
the jobs.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
For me. I don't mind. I don't mind working nine
to five.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Long's the job fits me and the money fits me,
and the vibe is right, you know everything else, like
management whatever, I'm okay working for somebody. I have been
in a process of starting a business. You're aware of
it as that I am. You support it, helping me,
give me a lot of information and you know, so

(50:02):
she's been very very helpful for me. That's something I'm
working on because once again, you know, starting a business
that's also money too, and you know that comes out
of your pocket.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
So it's like that's one of the things that I'm
working on. But I.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Once this this business that I plan on going into,
i probably won't have to work for nobody else again
also either unless I want it to.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
So I'm taking my time on that.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I'm giving myself a little bit time to work on
that because I got other things I'm working on, other
goals and stuff like that. But I'm thinking, honestly, if
I leave my current job that I'm at now is
to go into the field that it's in the same
field as the business that I would have. So that's
what the only reason why I would leave my current job,

(50:51):
because other than that, I have no reason to.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Leave where I'm at right now. I'm in a good position.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
There and things are good, so I really don't have
no reason to leave. But if an opportunity at a
company that's in a similar feel to my business, that
will help me also grow and I can learn a
little bit more also too, and just kind of get
my feet wet. That would be the only way I
will leave my current job. But I don't plan on

(51:19):
leaving my current job until officially I do my business, okay,
And I hope they I hope they plan on keeping
me also too, you know, because you know I can
lose my job. I can also you know, I can
also lose my job today or tomorrow also too. But
I hope they keep me as as long as I
would like to stay there until it's time for me

(51:42):
to move on to the next phase. But my next
phase will would have to be my business or something
that's coordinated.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
To that kind of get you started a want with
the business. Ye like your plan. I like your plan.
Question number five, I'll start this one off. Have you
ever been discriminated against at the workplace? Let me see,
I don't know. I'm trying to think about how any

(52:11):
moments of discrimination or maybe it wasn't blatant, you know,
to me, if I was ill.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
You know what, I don't want to say it was
a discrimination in my case, but I've heard other male
nurses and that and that feels have told me and
spoke to me, because, like I said, once again, guys,
I'm in healthcare.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, where.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
When when male nurses were hired, we were always put
into the harder sections. And that was something that I
always looked at and I'm like, look, we all here
got the same license, the same experiences. Why because we
are males that we have to be put into the
tougher situations?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Because I'm not saying this, y'all, but you know how
society is. Remember, I can't stand society either to Is
it because society says they're big, strong men, they can
handle it.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I think that's what I think that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I think that's what discrimination.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
But what what actually helped me even better? As I
grew into that field there it started being more common
that they were saying that male nurses were better nurses
than female nurses. And I guess because when a when
a male comes into a room or goes into a
hospital or nursing facility or what have you, their energy

(53:34):
is not the same as a woman. You know, women,
A lot of women. The male nurses are starting to
become a thing, and back in the day, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
The thing was always female.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
So when they see a male come in and he's
gentle with them and kind and all that. It kind
of brightens them up versus you know, the old school
female nurses they used to have like come on in here,
you ready, versus a guy come in and he's gentle,
he's nice, you know. And some female patients may not
like it, some do, but I know it also helped

(54:06):
a lot when males started becoming nurses with male patience
also too, so.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
It kind of worked out.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
But that kind of that was one of the things
that kind of like made me feel a little bit
more easy when they was saying, well, you know, no,
nurses they're a little more hardworking, they're more nicer, they're
more gentle, you know, and you have to be gentle
because you're a man and it's in a female dominated industry,
you know, so you do have to come in a
little bit more. You know, you can't come in like
a football player and you know, jacket people and all that.

(54:35):
But they also they know, as the big strong man
comes in here, I'm not going to hit the floor.
They're going to be able to pick me up. They're
going to be able to sit me right, you know,
they're not going to drop me and all that. So
as Tom went doing, I understood that, but I also said, look,
I'm just as good enough for the heart, I'm good
enough for the easy. Let's switch it all. And I
definitely advocated working in the hard section. But switch let's

(54:59):
switch this on and off, you know what I mean.
And that was a pretty much it. But I don't
think I've really experienced.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I had no discrimination in the workplace, Thank God for that.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I know I've seen it. I've heard it, so you know,
I've definitely seen it. I definitely heard stories of it
three people I know who come in contact, but I
really wasn't. But I will say this. At my last job,
I had a supervisor that she was Caucasian or white,
and she was dating outside her race and we actually

(55:29):
married to a black man. So we were in the
car one day doing a car ride to go to
like a little lunch, little lunch event in her and
another my other colleague was with her, another white woman
or Caucasian woman, and they were bonding over the fact
that because my colleague daughter is dating a black or

(55:51):
it's married, I'm sorry, it's a married black man, like
my supervise. My former supervisor was so they made a
comment and it said something to the fact that the
black women give dirty looks because they're married to a
black man. So now was that discrimination? Mm hmm, it

(56:17):
could It could. It could be because why because I
could both think y'all undercover racist underneath the scene, behind
the scenes, that you may not really like black women
because y'all feel that they give dirty looks, and because
you're taking all the good black men away. I said,
you know, for the topic to be brought up, you
know in a racial dating is so common now, who

(56:37):
gives a fuck really like they have to be a
conversation That was fucking unprofessional. So this is a heads
up for anybody members. So if it talk, we educate people,
and you know, for everybody to educate and get related.
If you are a white person dating outside of your race,
never tell the person's the person that you're dating race

(56:58):
that they give you looks or dirty looks or don't
like you because you're dating their race, because that does
come off it could be discriminatory in a.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Way, or it could anybody out.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Anybody any other races, because some people are judgmental to
that very judgmental, and that does and that's not professional,
specially the workplaces. We're talking about work, especially at the workplace.
Do never say that. Never say that unless the person
asks you, then you mentioned that, Okay, conduct.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
I don't think it's a problem if a person says, oh,
you know, my fiances Chinese or black or white, or
or you know or wife or husband, whatever their races.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I don't think that's a probon problem to say. But
if you are elaborate.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
And say that the other race doesn't like you or
something like that, it could be context absolutely.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
And if you're not African Americans, so let's save your
Caucasian or white think about it. Let's let's change your
change of thought here right this we do on stipp
of talk. Would if you were the only white person
in the vehicle and there was two black people, two
of your black workers, your supervisor and your colleague talking,
what did they say that your race? They're dating your race,

(58:13):
but y'all don't like them because they're taking all the
the white people, whether the man or the woman. How
would y'all feel on that end? Sit with that thought,
how would y'all feel?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
That's not right, that's not right. So just think about it.
I hope I made sense when I said that. It's
kind of hard to explain it, but I hope I
made since when I said that you were the opposite race.
Two black people they're dating your race, and they say
that you like them because you're taking all all the
good white white men or or white woman what have you.

(58:48):
How would you feel? Okay, I remember that we're here
to educate and relate. Here, Sit with that, Sit deep
on that. Moving on number six, this is such a
freaking good question. I'm so glad we're bringing this up.
Do you have an ethnic looking name that makes you
think your name has caused you not to get hired

(59:08):
for a job or receive any callbacks from a job
you apply to and had a successful interview and met
the job qualifications. I'm gonna tie this in with the
other one too, because I'm gonna bring up two topics
here and I'm gonna also highlight something else too. Let
me read this real quick. The number seven. Do you

(59:29):
think your first or last name and or both have
made it harder for you to get calls for a
job you apply to for an interview? Okay, so I'm
gonna answer those six and seven real quick. I'm gonna
go back to number five, the discrimination at the workplace.
Let me give you some information. I'm not gonna be
reading too much today. Ask the can't be doing storytime
or reading time today. But Monster, which is like the

(59:51):
search engine for jobs, really popular. They did a poll
and this was Monster Poll Workplace Discrimination, September sixth, twenty
twenty three. It states, when it comes to the job
application process, Monsters pull found that fifty percent of workers
have experienced discrimination based on age and forty percent based

(01:00:13):
on race. So that means fifty percent, that's more people
have experienced discrimination based on their age alone, and then
forty percent based on race. So age trumps.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Let me jump on that real quick. It's funny you
brought that up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
So my fiance is Caucasian white, and so she is
she's with a manager or whatever she runs, you know,
runs a department all that or whatever. And so she
had mentioned to me that she was a little concerned
because she didn't want it to come down on her
that she hires a lot of black people. And she

(01:00:52):
was saying that she was telling me some of the
you know, some some names or whatever, and she was like, well,
she could tell they were black.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Men or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
But she said, it's not the fact that I'm hiring
them just because they're black, because she didn't want it
to be baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Her fiance is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Black, her children are black, and she didn't want that
to be looked upon her. But she said, these people
had good work ethics, they had good background, they had
experience or whatever. So if they're good, I'm hiring them,
you know, And that's how And I told her, I said,
it doesn't matter, but I said, she said, but we
have a good variety of everybody that works at her

(01:01:28):
company or whatever, which is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
They have. There's some people that are in their seventies
that work.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Oh yeah, so they have older people there, they have
younger people. They have people fresh out of high school,
middle aged Chinese.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
And they celebrate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
One a couple of her a couple of her staffs
had got pulled or family members pulled with the whole
isis thing and all that stuff, like, they celebrated them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
They sent off care packages.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Honey.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
They just treat all their people well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
But I remember her just mention that to me, that
that was the thing that she was concerned that it
looked as a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Black guys that's deep, y'all. I didn't know that, and
she didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Look at it like that, but she kind of tried
to look outside the box like she does really hard
a lot of black people. But it was the fact
that these people had credentials and they and they qualified
and they had the experience, and it was what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
But that was something that you know, kind of herdvise.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Was that to time with that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
What question six and seven? Yeah, I'm going to also
mention this. I'm sure y'all might have saw this. My sister,
my baby sister, shout out to her.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
She knows she is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
She listens to the podcast. Hey, sister, she remember she
had told me about an article that went viral and
this was last year and it was on CNN. CNN
had posted this and this was July thirteen, twenty twenty four,
and it was titled a black man got a job
interview after he changed the name on his resume. Now

(01:03:03):
he's suing for a discrimination And this was written by
Mia McLean. So there was a twenty seven year old
black man. His name was is Dwight Jackson. He filed
an employment discrimination lawsuit against a hotel in Detroit Michigan
due to being offered a job interview after he changed
his name to John Jibrowski on his resume. The lawsuit

(01:03:27):
was filed on July third of last year, and between
January and April of twenty twenty four, he applied to
multiple positions at that hotel. Dwight had a steady employment
history on his resume and he met the qualifications you know,
obviously that's why he applied for the position. So what
he decided to do, like I'm not getting no callbacks,

(01:03:49):
he changed his name and employment dates, but kept the
same resume. He changed the employment dates. I was very
clever of him and very smart, like strategic way of thinking.
And guess what, everybody he received a callback how he
changed his name to John Jibroski. So he did, he

(01:04:10):
did that, and he was offered an interview. He couldn't
even get a call back with dwighte he was offered
an interview after he made the change. So when he
when Dwight went in for the interview, he had confronted
the job interviewer and about his name being you know,
the African American looking name or traditional African American looking name.

(01:04:31):
And after the interview, he was informed that he wasn't
considered a viable candidate for the position. So, y'all, it happens.
That's why we asked the question your name ethnic looking name,
and I think some Latino people hello, if hey in
the house of y'all Latino. I think y'all go through
that too, with y'all last name, like for example, we

(01:04:51):
are popular and like a Lopez Garcillaguez, you know, names
like that. But this we'll go on. I mean, I
think some of y'all deal with that too, where y'all
feel like and I can't put that in they got
no I'm Hispanic or Latino or Latina. So so those
are issues in this This is very prevalent. It still
goes on to this day. Don't think it doesn't. It does.

(01:05:13):
And this was a living proof right here. Also too,
I had this is personal experience. I had a supervisor
a few years ago I worked with. She had an
ethnic name, and she said, I don't know why my
mother and my father named me that name. So she
had to change her name to be more americanized. Y'all,
she said, for the job, and we get to call
her that, you know, on the job because she said

(01:05:35):
that would not get her to be hired. So this
is a personal I talk one on one about this
and then something else too. This is crazy when you're
in the black community or African American community. My parents
also have mentioned this to me and my siblings, that
they named us they wanted to make sure and this

(01:05:55):
is very ignorant, but this is so true, and I
see why, and I think I'm gonna do that when
I have my future baby, or if I do have
a baby, for my future baby, that they named us
names that would get us qualified to get hired for jobs.
And that's sad we comes to this, but this is
so true, y'all, because that does impact your livelihood again
and getting a call back from a job or interview,

(01:06:18):
it does have something to do with it. So with
quote unquote, give me your child a proper name so
nobody can tell if you know what they are they're
black or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's funny you say that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I remember anybody that watched the show called Empire back
in the day, and Gabby Citabe, that's she played a
main character on there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Y'all probably remember.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Her from Prescious and her name on there was Becky,
So I forgot who was might have been Lucius or Cookies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
She's be Cookies assistant or Lucian's assistant.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
And it was like, well, where's Becky And she's like,
I'm right here, and it's like you're.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Becky, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
And she's fully African American, dark skinned, and her name
was Becky. And you know, so the first thing they
was thinking that she probably was Caucasun or white because
her name was Becky, but she was completely African American. Yeah,
so that's you know, something like that too. You know,
sometimes African Americans or even different races like you know,

(01:07:22):
Chinese whatever, may have more of American name than an
actual their culture name.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
But can I say something to that too, you brother,
my mind, bestie Radar. So, I noticed when I go
to the nail salons when they have their license displayed,
their name is an American name compared to on the salon.
But why they got to do that, y'all because society
extah take their ethnic looking name, so they have to
make an Americanized name that's very popular exactly, So that's

(01:07:51):
there at works. It kind of ties in their work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
So absolutely brought up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
That's a very good point, very very good point.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
And I want to say, like even in my case
my government name, Yes, I say it a certain way,
but it's spelled a certain way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
So the way it's spelled, people.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Think it's a female. Oh yeah, I think it's a
female's name.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
But then if you abbreviate it the other way, I'm
not gonna say it the other way. Is it a
black looking name? Be honest, yeah, I don't know any.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Cautions that happen. You know, a white or Spanish you
know what, any other races that have that name. It's
a lot of African American black people have that name,
or it's similar to that name, but no other races
have it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
But when I when I say it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
The way my parents actually, yes, I say it differently,
but the way what my parents named me. In anybody,
any jobs I've had, and when they'll say it, they'll
say it the way that it's actually spelled, but it
would definitely they would think that they're hiring a female
and until they meet me, because the way it's spelled
and I was pronounced, but I say it the opposite way.

(01:09:03):
I'll say it the opposite way but still spell it
the correct way, and it's well, your name is this, No, my.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Name is that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Just that letter I said, It's just extra, I would say,
to be funny, silent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I always always do that. I go through that. But yeah,
that might be the reason why I've got some jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
And then I had some jobs that kind of said
it the way I say, which is cool, and then
I have other people that say it total opposite, but
it's similar. It's okay, it's okay, whatever works. But yeah,
so yeah, the name thing is kind of a funny thing. Yeah,
because there's nobody I don't know anybody that actually has
my actual name the way it's spelled. I don't know

(01:09:51):
no other male that has my actual name that is
spelt the way that it is. But it's the way
that I said. But it's the actual you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Yeah, sure, we can't speak because y'all know already seven
and I are black African American.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
But question number eight this is for you all again.
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(01:10:36):
to answer this next question. If you are part of
this group, I'm about to mention, are you all Caucasian
or white person with an ethnic name? Y'all know what
I'm talking about. I'm not gonna give examples there. Y'all
know the names. I'm talking about, those quote unquote African
American looking names. And when the interviewers saw you in person,

(01:10:57):
they seem shocked that you were of a different ethnicity.
We said, remember, they don't have to verbally tell you.
You can sense their body language, facial expressions, tone of voice,
or a shock of look like oh, I wasn't expecting
to see him there with that kind of name.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You know, let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
We can't answer this question. Let us know, female, male,
it doesn't matter. Let us know. Have you been in
that predicament where you were misjudged based on your name?
That's a good question. I would love to have gotten
some responses from that, very good question. Here's the last one.

(01:11:36):
After applying for a job, do you fill out those
surveys or questionnaires that acts about your race, if you're
Hispanic or not, your age, gender, sexual orientation, veterans, or
disability status. And there were some other things too, and
the list goes on. I'll just put it like that,

(01:11:57):
do you think those surveys or questionnaires are important things
know or do they do more harm than good? And
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you one thing. Let me
tell you my personal experience. When I was doing this,
I honestly feel like, what the fuck you need to
know about that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
For?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
That's what I'm applying for a job? What do you
need to know that for? What do you need to
fucking know that for? What the fuck you gotta know
that for? That's the question I have right there. And
then I saw something one day when I was applying
for a job. It said something about what to say
over forty. I was in my late thirties at the
time I was playing for a job, and it said
something about being over fort I said, I'm about to
be forty. Forty is not even that old. So they're

(01:12:30):
about to do age discrimination against me too?

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Oh what about credit checks? What about that shit? Yeah?
Credit for your job? Job?

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
What? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
What is really good? Those do more harm? But they say, oh,
you want to make sure we're doing equal practices and
hiring everybody with disabilities and differences this, that, and the third.
And then there was one point of the job I
popped to you and it said my sexual orientation would identify
as I feel like putting down homosexual, because when I
get a job, if I pluck that down, if I

(01:12:58):
set up betting here heterosexual like, it's just like it's
too much going on. It's just it's too much. I
think it does more harm than it does good. I
was told it doesn't, but I think it does, and
I think it could have a drawback. And you're not
getting I'm employed, not even getting a phone call for
an interview, or having your resume dismissed because of those
things they ask. I don't care. I think they use
that to their advantage and they be sneaky about it.

(01:13:19):
I don't care what nobody says. For sure, I don't care.
And if you agree, to leave a comment wherever you're listening.
But this was a very good topic, y'all. I enjoyed this.
I wish I could have went in a little bit
more with the work, work, work, but I'm drawing blinks
right now for some reason. I don't know what, but
maybe that's a good Joe got the tame version of me.
So maybe that's good because y'all know how I feel
about these jobs. And it might come out more on
the podcast. I might keep on going off and off,

(01:13:39):
certain topics come up and things like that. You might
hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
But you know what, I'm not. I'm not gonna lie though.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
There's been a couple of times I put White on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Just like he had. Just like White, he had to
do his resume to see when you get a freaking call.
And I'm thinking about doing that too, But I have
to go back in the job for us. I'm trying
not to. But if I had, I'm thinking about doing that.
That's a good one. I might do it. I might
do that too, It's true. So we are wrapping up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Now, wrapping it up, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Not that long today. That's kind of fast. It's a
record for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Us, all right, guys.

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The page and look at it or just view it.
We thank you.

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We give you all things for you know, just tuning
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We really want to thank you all.

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