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Matty (00:00):
Hey there, amazing souls,
and welcome to today's show.
Emily and I want to dive intothe other side of emotions.
The more you know and workwith your emotions, the more
liberation you can experience.
Emily (00:12):
Hello, welcome.
Yes, I definitely thinkthis is one of the biggest
misconceptions when itcomes to emotions is that,
Oh, we have to suppressit or we can't face them.
Otherwise somethingbad will happen.
I'm the first to say that itdoesn't feel good to face your
emotions, but when you are ableto work through them, then there
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really is a large amount ofliberation on the other side.
It really does free youfrom yourself, essentially.
Matty (00:42):
That's a really
good way to put that.
I've definitely needed toface things and thought they
were a mountain to climb.
And once I got in, yeah,it's challenging to
face your emotions andto feel through things.
But then I realizedthis wasn't quite the
mountain I thought it was.
And on the other side of thatwas growth, transformation, more
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awareness on what was going onor what had happened in my life.
Like you said, liberation.
Emily (01:08):
Yeah, I mean, don't
get me wrong, there's a lot
of screaming and crying.
There can be anger and griefand rage involved, but once
you can kind of push throughthat and get to the other side,
which is why this is called theother side of emotions then
it really does free up a lotof energy in your energy field
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and I mean it allows you tosee clearer just in general.
Matty (01:37):
Absolutely.
You're not clouded by allthese unresolved emotions
that are buried there becauseyou're working through it.
You definitely can seeclearer in your life.
I can attest to thatfor myself personally.
So in past shows and probablypretty much just about every
podcast show, we talk abouthaving conscious intent
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towards gaining awarenessand looking for a higher
perspective when you're havingirrational responses to things
in your present life andin your present events and
situations that are happening.
When you realize something'soff, we talk about, you
know, ask yourself questions.
Why am I having this reaction?
What's really going on here?
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What is it about thissituation that is connecting
me to something else that'screating this intensity with
which I'm feeling right now?
Because more than likely,there is more than just
this present moment thatyou're actually feeling.
You're feeling a backlogof unresolved emotions
that are getting triggeredby what's happening now.
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And it's really good toremember, in these moments,
this is when you slow down.
You check in with yourself.
You're looking toempower yourself.
Remember that you're theobserver having an experience
of emotions or thoughts.
You are not the emotionsor thoughts themselves.
So in the most basic energeticform, what are emotions, babe?
Emily (03:04):
Emotions are
considered energy in motion.
So I think that might be part ofwhere they got their name from.
Energy in motion.
So what do you thinkhappens to this energy
that needs a place to move?
Like, if you are in asituation where your fight
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or flight faculties kick inand you just suppress it.
You just push it down andyou're like, you completely
deny that emotion.
So where do you thinkit goes in your body?
Scientists used to think thatthis emotional energy was stored
in the stomach or gut, and thatwould be due to the uneasiness
or the digestive issues thatpeople would experience when
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they have negative emotionslike anxiety or stress.
But now, it's a more commonbelief that the emotions
can really be storedanywhere in the body.
And this was definitelysomething that was reinforced.
And actually, this thought,this pattern of thinking
actually changed over mytime as a massage therapist.
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I was a massagetherapist for 13 years.
And so in the beginning,it was more kind of
like, Oh, we don't know.
And then kind of towards theend, all of these different
scientific, you know, studiescame out and they would alert
us as massage therapists to tellyou, okay, you really need to
be a little bit more carefulwhen you're working with people.
Because now we believethat emotions can be stored
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anywhere in the body.
And so before you actuallydiscount this theory, or maybe
you're not discounting it,but if you are thinking, what,
how does that even make sense?
I think an example that theygave us was, think about
someone who maybe was inan abusive relationship and
their partner choked them.
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Like, I mean, I know this is aterrible thing to think about,
but it was something that youcan very much Um, just, as a
massage therapist, when you'reworking on the neck, it's a
very sensitive area anyway.
But, if somebody is havingextreme sensitivity, or if they
are freaking out and saying,you know, please stop, or
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just like from some, you know,like some smooth strokes, that
aren't even with pressure.
Then it could be reasonedthat they had some sort
of physical trauma to thatarea and that touching that
area could be bringing upthat emotional response.
That was really something wehad to really be conscientious
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of because people would haveemotional releases when,
you know, you're workingon any part of the body and
sometimes it didn't even reallyseem to make sense to them
or to us as the therapist.
You know, where you're workingon like a calf muscle and
that's not making sense.
But I mean, maybe that personwas in track and their coach
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was extremely hard on them and,and they pulled a muscle once.
And then that, that emotionwas stuck in their calf muscle.
Or I mean, it couldbe a disappointment.
Matty (06:14):
That they pulled that
muscle and couldn't help the
team or the coach got pissed atthem and stuff, but that injury.
So the emotion gets buried theretoo, as part of that energy.
Emily (06:22):
Yeah.
And as we'll look at in thenext podcast, we can talk about
like past life influences andother kind of energetics that
could possibly be associatedwith an injury in this lifetime.
But, we are going to keep itmore in the now for this one.
Matty (06:41):
I wanted to
bring something up about
the now, my lifetime.
I remember you and I talkingbefore we even dated, just in
our friendship, and you wereletting me know, like, some
of this new stuff that wascoming out, and Emotions can
be held anywhere in the body.
And I was starting to go throughkind of my childhood trauma
process and trying to workwith what was coming up and
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what was stored in my body.
And I remember we had sessionswhere it was just like, hey, I,
you're probably gonna trigger mewhen we get, especially around
my hips and things like that.
Emily (07:11):
Oh, and your legs.
Matty (07:12):
And my legs, remember.
Emily (07:13):
You had a lot of issues.
Matty (07:14):
How much they
would just writhe and
just constantly tweak.
Like I was struggling and stuff,like being held down and the
only thing that could movewere my legs that would tweak.
And it was just a matter of,hey, just to let you know up
front, this may trigger me,but I want to go through this
and feel these things andjust send love to my body and
myself for what's held there.
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And that I'm actuallynot trying to bury it.
I'm, my adult self can bepresent for what is held there
and feel through these emotions.
So that's interesting.
You bringing up the massage.
I just kind of wantedto point that out.
I remember those changes and,you know, purposefully having
you come to do massage to helpget that stuff moving within me.
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And we were friends, so I knowbeyond your professionalism
and integrity, you alsoheld a loving space for
me as a friend as well.
You know, so it was a, itwas very, those sessions
were very beautiful tome and helped me a ton.
To really start to get thingsmoving along and, and let my
body know that it didn't have tohold any more, that I was there.
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And a good friend washelping with this.
Emily (08:23):
I enjoyed those trades.
I enjoyed my Reikisessions with you as well.
Matty (08:28):
Yeah.
Those were, those were goodtimes trading session for
session, but just that helped mea lot with the buried emotions
and getting things moved.
So I wanted to share that.
Emily (08:37):
I love you.
Matty (08:38):
I love you too.
Emily (08:40):
Well, speaking, I feel
like that's a good segue for
this next part where we'retalking about what are high
frequency emotions compared tolow, lower frequency emotions?
I mean, I feel like most ofus can conceptualize this in
our mind, but what does thisactually mean higher frequency
versus lower frequency?
So I think we all can agreethat when you are feeling
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lower frequency emotions likeshame, guilt, grief, Anger.
Yeah, anger.
These are much heavier emotionsand they literally carry weight.
So these are lowerfrequency because they are
more dense and they causecontraction within your body.
They cause you to cover yourheart or slump over your
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shoulders or, or make fists.
Yeah.
Or make fists or.
Matty (09:31):
Scrunch your nose.
Mm.
Emily (09:33):
Mm totally.
Matty (09:34):
Or on your forehead.
Yeah.
Emily (09:36):
Or slump.
I mean, when you're literally,you know, feeling down or
depressed, you won't even situp straight or stand straight.
Totally.
You're, you're just be gonnabe walking around moping, you
know, your head and shoulders.
It's because these emotionsliterally carry weight
and they are dense.
And then there are the highfrequency emotions such as
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peace, love, joy, enlightenment,and these have a lighter
weight on the body and theyare actually expansive.
They actually cause your energyto expand rather than contract.
So you'll know when you'refeeling good and you're feeling
peaceful or you're feeling love,you've got your head up high.
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You've got your shouldersup, you're not slumping over.
Matty (10:19):
Shoulders back.
Emily (10:20):
I mean, you may even
be strutting down the street
when you're feeling good.
Matty (10:25):
Oh, the, the gait of
your walk will definitely
be different in thosevibes than lower vibes.
Absolutely.
Emily (10:31):
And I mean, you literally
feel lighter in your body.
People say that whenthey're in love, they feel
like they're floating.
And that's not completely outof the realm of what's possible.
I mean, you literallyare lighter when you're
feeling these highervibrational emotions.
Matty (10:50):
So let's talk about
the effect of negative
emotions on our health.
Emily (10:54):
So can I
say one more thing?
Matty (10:55):
Absolutely.
Emily (10:56):
I will say
one more thing.
What we are trying toaccomplish here is not
to say only experiencehigh frequency emotions.
We kind of made the pointearlier and what the whole
point of this whole podcastis, is that yes, higher
frequency emotions feelbetter and that is kind of
where it feels better to be.
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But in order to get tothat level to where you
can experience these higheremotions like more frequently.
You have to work through theselower frequency emotions.
You can't just deny, deny,deny all this anger, all
this shame, all this griefthat you're feeling and
be like, Oh, I'm peaceful.
Oh, I'm all peace and love.
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It just doesn'treally work that way.
And so that is literallywhy this podcast is called
the other side of emotions.
Because when you can get to thatother side, when you can work
through them, you like literallyyou walking through the mud.
Through the sludge, throughthese shitty emotions,
there is a rainbow on theother side and that rainbow
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is you do feel lighter.
Matty (12:07):
More and more.
Absolutely.
Life is all the thingsand emotions are going to
keep coming up, but themore you work through what
you're holding onto, thelighter you feel literally.
Because you're vibratingwhat you're holding and it
takes energy use on yourpart to keep something in
place, to keep it held there.
You start to create patternsaround not feeling that
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or not experiencing thator not triggering that.
So you're actually using moreenergy to hold something in
place than it takes to feelthrough it, to vibrate it,
to move it out of your body.
And lighten your load,energetically speaking.
Emily (12:46):
Well, and not only
that, we are talking about the
backlog of energies as well.
So if you have like this hugebacklog, think about it in the
way, like if you're talkingto your spouse or there's
something that happens, likesome sort of conflict with
your spouse and you're like,Oh, I can't talk to them and
you just keep shoving it down.
And then the next time ithappens, Oh, can't talk
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about it, shove it down.
Next time it happens youjust keep shoving it down
until you've got this hugebacklog of this Angry energy
against your spouse becausethey do this thing that
annoys the fuck out of you.
Well, if you never talk aboutit and never move through it
one day it's going to come upin this huge explosive way.
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And of course because you'vebeen shoving it down your
spouse is gonna have nofreaking clue where this all
this anger is coming frombecause you never brought
it up in the first place.
Matty (13:37):
They're not going to
understand that a behavior of
theirs has been annoying youfor months or years on end
until you just explode on them.
Emily (13:45):
Exactly.
So we're also talking aboutworking through this backlog
of emotions so that the nexttime, because once you talk
about it and you like figuresomething out and you know
your spouse or your partneror whatever's like, Oh, okay.
Well, you know, I neverrealized how annoying
that could possibly be.
Or whatever, however youdecide to work it out, the
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next time it happens, youwon't have the backlog.
It'll just be, okay, they'reannoying me, and that's okay.
It's not like I have thishuge backlog of anger at them
that comes up all at once.
And so I do think it'simportant to to bring that up.
We're also talking about workingthrough the backlog of these
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negative emotions so that thenext time you feel that negative
emotion you're just feelingit for what it is and you're
not feeling it for you know,the last 20 years of feeling
it, or past lives feeling it.
And so, I did want to makethat point before, you know,
we bring up this next part too.
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Because high frequency emotionsare great, but we're not
asking you to deny those.
We're not asking youto deny your negative
emotions to only experiencehigh frequency emotions.
Matty (15:01):
It just doesn't work.
Even if you think you geta semblance of it working
for a moment or a minute,it just doesn't work.
Emily (15:10):
Because you're not really
feeling those high frequency
emotions for what they are.
You're feeling them inresponse to denial of, of
lower frequency emotions.
All right.
So I think I beat thatpoint into the ground.
We're not all high vibesall the time over here.
We're all about workingthrough what is.
Matty (15:32):
We're all about
being real wherever that
is, wherever we are.
And also how to empoweryourself because you know, you
can do both at the same time.
You can be real with youremotions, even when they're low
vibes and empower yourself bybeing real with those emotions.
Emily (15:49):
Yeah, that's how
you get through them.
Matty (15:51):
Yeah.
Emily (15:52):
So with that being
said, the next part that
we really wanted to bringup was the effects of your
negative emotions on yourhealth, because they really
do impact your health, andespecially negative thinking.
Matty (16:06):
And we don't mean
expressing your backlog, like
feeling through your emotions.
We mean when you're holdingnegative emotions in place.
Emily (16:17):
Or when you're
causing them to persist
due to negative thinking.
I feel like that's reallywhat we want to bring
up is negative thinking.
That's literally keepingyourself in this negative
headspace and these negativeemotions, like in this loop
of low frequency emotions.
So, I feel like that'sreally what we want to talk
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about in this next part, isnegative thinking and how
negative thinking impactsyour mood and your emotions.
Matty (16:45):
Emotions affect your
endocrine system, affecting
your metabolism, your immuneresponses and your mood.
When you have persistentnegative thinking, your
body thinks it's understress, and that stimulates
your pituitary gland tosignal to your adrenals.
to release cortisol andit can cause disruptions
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in your thyroid, sex,and growth hormones.
Emily (17:12):
Yeah, and I
mean, these hormones
affect your entire body.
And if that were to happen,because if you're constantly
keeping yourself in negativethinking, of course, if it
happens once or twice and you'renot, you know, this isn't a
chronic thing, then your bodycomes back to homeostasis.
But if this is somethingthat you're keeping, you're
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persisting, constantly goingthrough this negative loop
about, you know, how terribleyou are, what a failure you are,
how you can't do anything right,or, or whatever it may be, then
this can really wreak havocon your body because it throws
your hormones all out of whack.
And this affects your mind.
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It affects yourdirection in life.
It causes digestive issues.
It messes with your moods,can cause depression,
fatigue, trouble sleeping.
Just to name a few things.
And I mean, we've all heardthat stress is bad for you, but
stress is such a generic termthat can mean So many things.
Matty (18:15):
I find it really
interesting too that our
subconscious mind doesn'tknow or doesn't dictate the
difference between real stressand stress that we're placing on
ourselves through our thoughts.
And those thoughts create anemotional reaction or response.
And like our subconscious, Itdoesn't know the difference.
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So when we start to havethese continual thinking and
our subconscious gets in playand then we're kicking these
hormones in play, we canliterally do this to ourselves.
This isn't just having aresponse to a stressful
situation, we can create thatstress by holding this negative
loop, these negative patterns,these negative thoughts
that create more negativeemotions in place, within us.
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And it gets to be a realslippery slope between wanting
to be spontaneous and whateveryou're feeling you're feeling.
And if it's negative,it's negative.
Just feel through it.
Understand that it's not you,you're having this experience
but if we keep this loopgoing, we literally get the
subconscious in play andthen we don't know what's
real or what's not real.
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Stress.
So we're justreacting to it all.
So this stress that we'reinducing that really isn't
real, it's not from somethingthat's happening in our
environment and that we, we needcortisol and adrenaline kicking
in our system to help us.
We're creating this loop.
I find that vastly interestingthat the, the subconscious
really doesn't understand what'shappening in reality versus
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what we're creating in our mindfrom something that probably did
happen in reality at some point.
And we just keep recreatingit and holding it in place.
Emily (19:52):
Yeah, but I mean,
that's not always true.
I mean, if you're tellingyourself that you're a failure
or something, you know,ridiculous like that, yes, we
all have moments where we failat things, but that doesn't
make, that's not who you are.
Matty (20:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
Emily (20:07):
It's not what is a
good idea to identify as
either, because as you tellyourself that over and over,
you start feeling the flush.
You start getting thislike flush of heat.
And then what,what happens next?
You're like yelling atsomeone else and they're like,
what is going on right now?
Because you're tellingyourself this in your mind.
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And it's really interestingbecause the amygdala in the
brain is a little almond shapedstructure and this part of
your brain plays a key rolein processing your emotions.
Especially these strongnegative emotions like
rage, anxiety, and fear.
So, this part is also the partof your brain that activates
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the flight or fight response.
So, if you're telling yourself,I mean, we'll use that same
example, if you're tellingyourself, you know, that
you're a failure, and thenyour amygdala goes ahead,
and it's like, alright,they're in fight or flight,
like, they need some rage!That is why, like, your brain is
literally telling you, Okay, nowit's time to let that rage out.
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And what is very interestingis if you constantly keep
yourself in chronic stress,it can literally shrink
you're amygdala, which leadsto depression and anxiety.
Like, these are the chronicthings that can happen
from this chronic stress.
So, it's just kind of mindblowing to me that, that we
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can be this hard on ourselves.
That we can hurtourselves, literally.
Like, we can literallycause physical changes in
our brain, in our body bybeing mean to ourselves.
So if there's anything you'regetting from this at all, just
try to have more compassion,try, to just, the next time
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you have those thoughts aboutyourself be like, you know what?
NO.
And think about all thetimes that you succeeded.
Or think about somethinggreat you did today.
Or just look in themirror and tell yourself
that you love yourself.
Matty (22:16):
Yeah, counteract
those thoughts.
Emily (22:18):
Yeah.
Matty (22:20):
Empower yourself.
Emily (22:21):
Keep that amygdala
big, or it's a little, it's
a little piece anyway, butkeep it as big as it can be.
Matty (22:27):
Yeah.
Keep that almond an almond.
Don't let it become a pea.
Emily (22:32):
Exactly.
Matty (22:33):
Well, I'd like to
talk about emotions having
intelligence, but what happenswhen emotions are too much.
We have manyintelligences within us.
Our minds are fucking incredibleat what they can deduce and
think about and come up withanswers to wild situations
that we're going through.
Our minds are super powerfuland very intelligent.
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But we also have our emotions.
And our emotions, throughour feelings, will let
us know if something'sright or wrong for us.
And sometimes these can bekind of spontaneous things
and we'll know right away.
But sometimes we kind of have togo through our emotional wave in
our process and really feel intosomething and see if we still
feel the same way about it.
We also have our intuitionfor guidance and its own
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intelligence as well.
So, our emotions arepretty freaking amazing.
And it's awesome whenwe can kind of keep them
in a spontaneous moment.
So when we're in asituation and we're feeling
things, our emotionalresponses are rational.
They make sense if we wereto stop and think about them.
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It makes sense to what'sgoing on that we're
feeling the way we feel.
And we talked earlier that, youknow, we've talked in several
shows, it's when we're havingthese irrational responses.
When the charge of emotionalenergy feels like too
much if you take a secondto just think about it.
Why are we having this, thisintensity of a reaction?
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That's when we're lookingfor awareness and a
higher perspective.
Because more than likely,there's a backlog of emotions
that are getting triggeredand, and you're getting
flooded with all of this.
And not just that moment intime of that situation or
event that the reality thatyou're experiencing in present.
Emily (24:20):
Yeah, I mean, and
a lot of times when that
happens, you're like, Whoa,where did that even come from?
It's like almost thisunconscious response.
And then later when youthink about it, you're like,
Whoa, that didn't reallymake sense for what happened.
Why did I reactlike that to that?
And then that's when youcan start really learning
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to bring more awarenessto your triggers and why.
Matty (24:48):
Well, if you
allow for your emotions
to be intelligent too.
Then as the observer, ifyou're not attaching in the
moment to the emotion andthe thoughts, then you can
realize quicker and quicker.
For me, it was, I mean, maybedays later I'd be like, why
did I have that reaction again?
That seems a little weird.
And I had to work my way upto where I could catch myself
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in the moment, having a bigreaction and pretty much have
to give myself a time outand be like, take a breath.
I need awareness.
Why?
Oh, I'm, I'm at work rightnow and I don't really
have the time to dive in.
Hey, I'll get backto you emotions.
I'll check in with youjust as soon as I can and
with that experience too.
So if you don't really literallyhave the time in that moment
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to check in with yourself,just make sure that you do
when you do have the time.
Honor, honor your emotions andcheck back in when you can.
Emily (25:41):
And I do feel like
it's interesting to mention
that different people thatyou're around, and will have
a different impact on you.
And so if you are aroundsomeone and you are constantly
having these very big emotionsthen either that person is
not correct for you in yourlife or you all have some very
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like pent up past life energy.
Matty (26:07):
Yeah, there could
be karma at play for sure.
Emily (26:09):
Yeah, or even
karmic energy from this
life too at play And sothat's just something
else, like another layer ofawareness to think about.
Like, Hmm, is thisperson healthy for me
to have in my life?
Matty (26:23):
And that's using
your mind to catch
patterns, statistics.
Like Emily said, why am I alwayshaving these kinds of reactions
when I'm with this person?
What's that about?
Are they right for me?
Do I need to maybe have lesscontact with this person?
Do I need to reconsider thekind of relationship I'm
having with this person?
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Be it lovers, friends,acquaintances, whatever it is.
Emily (26:46):
Yeah.
I mean, I've definitely beenin past relationships where,
man, I was fiery, like allthe time and I tried to chalk
it up to being a fire sign.
I'm a Sagittarius.
So this is just the way I am.
And then it was, and thennow looking back, I mean,
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Maddie and I have a mucheven keel relationship where
we're not just yelling ateach other constantly like
I was in past relationships.
So it's like, Hmm, whatwas the effect of that?
And.
Was that healthy for me?
I mean, obviously it wasn'tsomething I wanted to stay in
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because I eventually got out,but maybe it took a little
longer than it should have, butjust interesting things to note.
Like the effect that who youare when other people are
around too is an important thingto bring awareness as well.
Matty (27:43):
Yes, it is.
So what happens when yourspontaneous emotions in a
situation or an event aretoo much for you to process.
When the experience in yourlife is too much to process,
they become unresolvedemotions and they get repressed
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and buried within you.
You couldn't deal withthem, you didn't vibrate
them, you didn't honor them.
And there's a myriad of reasonswhy we might not have, but this
is the reality is we didn'thonor this emotional expression
and we pushed it down andburied it within ourselves.
And this can be, I mean, obviousthings that you consciously
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can realize, like, that wastoo much, I pushed that down.
I mean, could be goingthrough traumatic experiences.
So you can consciously be like,yeah, that, that was some BS.
That was too much.
I'll have to go backand feel through that.
You know, there's hurtfulbreakups, heated exchanges,
like Emily was just saying,you know, fighting a lot.
And then that finallybreaks up and there's a lot
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of hurt and anger there.
And it might betoo much to feel.
And you've pushed it down.
Deaths from people are likepets that we dearly loved.
And it was too muchgrief to experience.
So we experienced what we couldand the rest got held in place.
It was unresolved.
There's also less obviousthings, like, when we're in
our childhood consciousness,things that we took in as
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truth from our parents orelders from our experiences.
I've got a few examples fromthings that I used to hear.
You know, you makeme feel this way.
So whatever I was doing, Irealized that I was having a
negative effect on somebody andmy emotions in that situation
and what I was doing were wrong.
So I I'd bury that and nottry to have that again.
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Or why are you so emotional?
I can't stand it whenyou get like this.
Boys should be tough.
Just get over it.
Things like this thatwe take on is truth and
then we learn to bury ouremotions when we're kids.
Because we don't have theconsciousness to realize
that, well, that was uncool,or that was a dick thing to
say, or, you know, hmm, Ijust don't think that's right.
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I need to have thisexpression right now.
You know, yeah, boys, boys canbe tough, but I'm having some
emotions and I need to feelthrough my emotions right now,
so I'm going to have those.
Like, we don't havequite the level of
consciousness or intelligencedeveloped to understand.
So we take in these things.
We make them truth in our lifeand we start to repress or
bury before we even realizethat's what we're doing.
Emily (30:15):
Well, and even more
than that, you just feel like
you're a burden on others.
And then that brings a wholeother slew of problems as well.
When you are going throughlife, feeling like you're
a burden on others.
Because, how dare youmake me feel that way!
That's a very uncoolthing to hear.
Especially as a child.
Matty (30:36):
There's all sorts of
loads of whatever, and I'm sure
coming from elders and parentsand older siblings and cousins
and things, like they probablydidn't really mean to cause
messed up things within a kid.
But sometimes the things wesay and what gets passed down,
we take these things in, soyou know, it's not like
just as an adult, weexperience things that we
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can't process in the momentand they become unresolved.
Sometimes we're literallytaught to bury things, or
that emotional expressionisn't valid, or isn't correct.
Or that our emotionsare creating someone
else's feelings.
That they don't like howthey're feeling because of
the way we're feeling, so thenwe're taught to bury that.
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It can be a slippery slope.
And when we do this, thisis how we create a backlog.
It's these unresolvedemotions that are buried.
And these, in turn, thisbacklog, it clouds your
emotional intelligence.
Because now when you're tryingto tap into a situation, if
you have a backlog aroundthis or something similar,
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more than likely when youtry to feel into something,
you're going to have all thisother stuff to feel into.
So it can be tough to knownow when a situation is right
or wrong for you, or a personis right or wrong for you.
And if you've beenbearing these things,
this could just be normal.
So then you get cloudedthere on your emotions
too, on their intelligencebecause of the norm.
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Everyone deals with a backlogof emotions to some extent.
They may not have, you know,childhood traumas or crazy
things that have gone on, but weall have buried some emotions.
It could have happened whenwe were really young as kids.
And we just didn't have theintelligence and consciousness
to realize what we were doingin that moment, or that that
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was just weird that we werebeing told to not express
that or that wasn't right.
And then it could very muchbe things that make sense to
us as we think about them,but we all deal with this
in some way, shape, or form.
And these buried andrepressed emotions will get
triggered by an energy thatis similar to that experience.
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If not the same kind ofexperience, it's just maybe
different people in yourlife, but it's triggering
those held emotions.
And sometimes we create thingsin our life to help trigger
this backlog of emotionsbecause, like I said earlier,
we're spending all thisenergy keeping things buried.
And it would just be betterif we could feel through it
and lighten our load and movethrough this and get to the
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other side of emotions wherethere's more liberation and
a higher perspective from it.
But sometimes the problemis we get triggered and
these things start to feeland what they really need
to gain freedom is to befelt and vibrated and moved.
But then we deny and burythem again and push them down.
And now we've pushed thatmoment on top of the past and
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we create even more of a backlogof emotions that we're holding
on and bearing within us.
Emily (33:32):
Yeah, I think a good
example of this could be when,
if you've experienced betrayalin like a romantic relationship
where you got cheated onor something like that.
And then of course thatcomes with a whole slew
of betrayal energy of youlied to me, manipulation,
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just however it played out.
And then in your nextrelationship, you are just
like, Oh, well, they're justgoing to cheat on me anyway.
So, and then it's like,you have that in place.
And then if it does happenagain, it's like now you're
pissed off at them because it'shappened more than once now.
So you're like bringing yourrage from that other time onto
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your current relationship.
And then that willkeep happening.
This same situation willprobably keep happening because
if you're coming into therelationship like yep, this
is gonna happen, I'm gonna bebetrayed, then chances are it
will keep happening until you dosomething to break that pattern.
Matty (34:33):
Until you can
feel into it and then how
Emily (34:35):
you can confront it
Matty (34:36):
and get yeah get
that awareness that you're
actually hurt from the firsttime and you've been holding
that hurt and creatingsituations to trigger that so
the original hurt and angercould be felt and expressed.
Emily (34:48):
And I mean, it may
cause you to even go after,
people in relationships thatare emotionally not available
so that you can keep playingout this sabotaging frequency,
this self fulfilling prophecy.
And so this is what we meanby awareness is key, because
by bringing awareness, you'relike, okay, you know what the
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next person you're dating,you're like, all right.
You know, they seem likea really good person.
All right, I'm not going togo ahead and put this burden
energy of, Oh, they're justgoing to betray me onto them
because I've worked through it.
And now anytime you have thosefeelings pop up, you're like,
Oh God, are they lying to me?
Uh, you can just like have acivil conversation about it
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instead of getting really workedup and like sneaking behind
their back and like checkingtheir phone or whatever, you
know, may come from that.
Yeah.
That's why awareness isa wonderful thing, and
by working through theseemotions, and working through
this backlog of energy.
Because then you're notcoming through with, like,
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multiple experiences of rageagainst this one person.
You can actually feelit for what it is.
I mean, maybe they're tryingto surprise you with a
secret birthday present orsomething, you know, that's
why they're being a little bit
Matty (36:08):
untruthful or
not fully telling you
what's going on or right.
They seem a little off orsomething in their actions.
Cause they don't wantto let it slip or
Emily (36:16):
it can be a
plethora of reasons.
Matty (36:17):
Yeah.
Empowerment comes fromfeeling into your emotions.
The more you feel into andexpress, the lighter your
emotional, energetic loadbecomes and in the end,
the more liberated you are.
And in time, when you canget to that root cause, and
you can create healing andforgiveness around, because
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you've gotten there andyou have the awareness now.
And you've connected your mentalfaculties and trying to work
with your intuition on what'shappening and why are these
things in place and what arethese feelings about and what's
there underneath the surface.
You can truly befree of this backlog.
And then you can have morespontaneity in your emotional
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responses in your presentlife scenarios and situations.
And then the true intelligenceof your emotions can be used.
It really creates so much beautywhen we feel into the backlog.
When we discover that they'rethere and we start to work
with it and we allow ourselfa safe space to do this.
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It really is about, I mean forme, it really is about becoming
liberated and more empowered.
Emily (37:29):
Yeah, freeing yourself.
Free your mind andthe rest will follow.
All my eighties and nineties, orthat's probably a nineties song.
But if you're that old,you might enjoy that or
at least recognize it.
So this is Soul Vibe Insightsand of course, here at Soul
(37:50):
Vibe Insights, we like totalk about intuition and
intuition development.
So, what does emotionalliberation have to
do with intuition?
Matty (38:01):
I mean, if you aren't
in touch with your emotions,
then they'll run your life.
We kind of hit on this before.
Unconsciously, you're goingto make choices and do
things to avoid feeling acertain way or remembering
an event in your life.
And you're going tospend a lot of emotional
energy, mental energy onkeeping things in place.
(38:22):
And this just kindof mucks things up.
You have less energy for tappinginto your intuitive guidance.
Emily (38:28):
Yes.
And if you have this backlogof emotional energy, you
will not be able, youwill not be seen clearly.
You will not be seenclearly in your own life.
And you will absolutely notbe hearing your intuition
clearly or your soul urges.
They will just beclouded by all of it.
Matty (38:50):
Yeah.
I was thinkingdistorted, but clouded.
Emily (38:52):
Distorted.
That's a good word.
It will be distorted andif this is the case, if
there is that distortionavailable, then you're not
going to be able to trust it.
Or you're not going to be ableto feel like you can trust it.
Cause you're like, Whoa,that didn't play out.
Uh, I got this guidanceand that wasn't even right.
But if you're gettingdistorted guidance in the
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first place, then it'sgoing to be very difficult.
But I don't think it's theguidance that you're going to
be getting that's distorted.
It's your interpretation of theguidance that gets distorted.
Matty (39:24):
Ding, ding,
ding, right there.
When we view what happenedthrough our intuitive
guidance and the actionsthat we took or didn't take.
And we want to point fingers,sometimes at ourselves and
our intuitive guidance andour lack of trust in that.
It's really the interpretation,when the guidance could have
just been putting us in aplace where our emotions
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could get stirred up.
So we could feel inand move through them.
But we didn't like that, sothen we view that as negative.
Our interpretation is off.
Remember, your intuitiveguidance is one of the
three main ways, and thebiggest of the three.
Your higher self, yoursoul self speaks to you.
It's through intuition.
Emily (40:06):
And I don't know if
everyone's is this way, but
mine is super literal, likealmost to a comical degree.
Like for example, I waswriting an email to the
DMV to get new tags.
And so I hadeverything on there.
You know, I had the VIN number.
I had a picture ofthe license plate.
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They ask you to forwardsome maintenance records,
so you have to do likea scanning scan of that.
I get my pendulum outand I'm asking my guides,
okay, do I have everythingthat I need in this email?
And I'm and I get ayes, like a big swing.
Yes.
And, is there anythingelse that I need to do?
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And I keep getting, yes!And I'm like, okay, well,
if I have everything, andthere's, but there's still
something else I need to do.
And I'm like, okay,well, what is it?
What is it?
And I'm like, racking mybrain, trying to figure
out, like, Okay, well, ifI have everything, In the
email, but yet there's stillsomething else I have to do.
And then I just hear push send.
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It's like, and Ijust laugh to myself.
Okay, well, that's definitelysomething else to do.
But I'm here thinking,Oh, well I need to
include something else.
But just like, well, push send.
That's the thing you need to do.
Just cracked me up.
Matty (41:26):
Thank you for sharing.
It's cracking me up too.
Emily (41:31):
I feel like we've
definitely kind of made these
points that if you're in ahighly emotional state, then
I mean, you're literally,that's all you're thinking
about is what is putting youin this highly emotional state.
You won't even be able toreally have clarity for your
intuition because, you know,your guides aren't going
to be able to get in there.
Your higher self isn't goingto be able to reach through
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that curtain and get yourattention because you're
here, you know, in theselower vibrational emotions.
Like going in circles andruminating and you know,
whatever the case may be.
So that's one of the reallygood things about the higher
vibrational emotions is thatyou will be able to hear your
intuition better when you arein a higher vibrational state.
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And if you think aboutit this way, your guides,
they're just chilling in thishigher vibrational state.
So if you're like in this lowervibrational state, there's
nowhere for the, there'sno bridge that can be made,
because you're vibratingat too low of a state.
So that's why, you know,a lot of people that are
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in the spiritual realmare like, Ooh, high vibes.
Well, that is one of the verypositive things about high
vibes, because if you canbring yourself into those
higher vibes, you can Thenyou will be able to hear your
guides more clearly becausethe bridge, they don't have to
jump down so many frequenciesto get your attention.
Matty (42:53):
Yeah.
I mean, when we're goingthrough these lower vibrational
frequencies, and we're inthose negative thinking loops
and emotional loops, we canfeel powerless sometimes
to do anything about it.
And we're also expendingso much energy on it.
And then we're creating stresshormones in our body to add
to the stress and anxietythat we're already feeling.
It's a pretty powerful loop totry to break out of to take time
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to like tap into your intuition.
Like Emily says, you know,to try to tap in and for
your intuition to jumpdown to get your attention.
So this is when you have tohave that experience, the mental
toughness to realize, well,I'm on a negative loop here.
There's too much ofthis, is this where my
spontaneous emotions arebecause of my reality and my
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circumstances and situation?
Do I need to just feel throughthese and then I'll get to
someplace else or am I inessence kind of creating this
loop and I need to hit pause?
This is a great time if youhave a energy clearing practice
like our course, NavigatingSpiritual Protection with
a Divine Co Pilot, to learnhow to clear your energy and
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protect your auric field.
This is the time totime out, go through an
energy clearing protocol.
Emily (44:04):
Well, and that literally
raises your vibration, too.
Matty (44:07):
Well, and it creates a
parasympathetic nervous response
that actually, through breathingtechniques, tells your body
that you're safe, you're okay.
Calm's a good place to be.
This is our naturalstate, if you will.
So this is great whenyou can catch yourself in
these negative loops andthen you've got the tools.
To actually calm, reset, andthen it makes it so much easier
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to then tap into your intuition.
To not have to jump up from somany vibrations of emotions to
try to get into higher vibes.
You've already kind of clearedthe slate, reset things.
Giving yourself a huge stepup towards higher vibes.
Towards at leastfeeling even keel.
And at that point you canstart to work more with
your intuitive guidance.
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Tap into your higher selfand tap into those other
intelligences within you.
Emily (44:56):
And you really do need
a pretty good amount of focused
energy in order to tap intoyour intuition and your guides.
I think if anyone has ever triedto meditate, you know, in the
very beginning, it can be veryfrustrating, because it's very
hard to quiet your mind, butthen, you know, with practice,
you get better and better.
But it does take thatdegree of focus in order
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to hear your higher self.
You do need to be ableto quiet your mind.
And if your mind is runninghaywire on emotional
energy, then it will behard to have that focus.
Matty (45:31):
Absolutely.
So becoming cognizant of ouremotions and understanding and
working through your triggers ispretty much a must do in order
to be intuitive and to hear yourintuition and your soul urges.
So honey, would you like towalk us through like, how do
you work through your triggers?
Emily (45:50):
Yeah.
So I just kind of put thislittle list together and just
kind of flowed through me.
But of course the veryfirst thing that you want
to do in order to workthrough your triggers
is become aware of them.
Because obviously you cannotwork through something
that you are not aware of.
And awareness usuallyhappens because you're
triggered, and you have thisemotional response to it.
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So, it's not exactly themost comfortable thing.
This is not the mostcomfortable step.
Becoming aware ofwhat your trigger is.
Like, what just triggered me?
And it could besomething someone says.
I know that I used to have, youknow, a high degree of jealousy
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and especially in the beginningof our relationship in the
beginning, uh, and especiallylike in past relationships.
And I won't go in, youknow, to all the reason
why, because they're.
I could be talking for, youknow, a little bit on that, but
I had a lot of jealous energy.
And one of the things that wouldcome up is like Matty would
maybe do something and I wouldfeel this jealous energy come
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up, but then I would feel shame.
Because I knew that I didn'tfeel, I would feel shame because
I didn't feel like I was worthyto feel that way because he
wasn't doing anything in orderfor me to feel that way, but
I was still feeling that way.
If that makes sense.
I was still having thisjealous response, but then I
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was shutting it down becauseI'm like, Oh, well, I'm not
allowed to feel this way.
There's no reason Ishould feel this way.
And then that shame caused awhole other plethora of issues.
where I would storm out and slamdoors and all kinds of stuff.
I've come a long way, luckily.
So becoming aware of whattriggers you and, you know,
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asking yourself questions ofwhat does this remind me of?
Like, what in my past doesthis feeling make me think of?
Because a lot of times you couldbe going to that other memory.
Matty (47:56):
Because the present
situation may only be helping
to trigger what's buried.
And it may not necessarilybe that present moment that's
really giving you that charge.
But, there’s something aboutthat energy and that situation
that is triggering those buriedemotions that is having the
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avalanche response and thislike intensity that's coming up.
So be willing to assess whetheror not it really is in that
moment that's creating allthis or is that moment helping
to trigger and then whatis it triggering within us?
Emily (48:32):
Exactly, which
is the next step, which
is identification.
So once you become aware ofwhat triggered your response,
you want to try to identifywhat emotion, you know, you're
feeling in that response.
And so there are lotsof emotional charts.
(48:53):
Um, I know we include one inour course that Maddie was
talking about because it'simportant to get in touch with
your emotions when you areworking with your intuition.
And so when something triggersyou, you want to identify
what that emotion was sothat you can start to really
know yourself and know whatit feels like when certain
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emotional responses happen.
Matty (49:17):
And the
next is processing.
Processing the emotions in anappropriate and healthy way
and only you know what'sappropriate for yourself.
Processing means you'regiving life to those emotions.
You're feeling them.
You're vibrating them.
You might be speaking,yelling, screaming, crying,
who knows what, but you'regiving them vibration.
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You're giving themyour attention.
You're honoring them.
You're moving them.
You might need toshake your body.
Emily (49:45):
Yeah, this
could be journaling.
This could be taking a showerand just crying, screaming
and crying in the shower.
Definitely donethat a few times.
I know Matty used to hold upa, we used to hold up a pillow
for each other and we wouldjust punch the shit out of it
when we were super frustrated.
Matty (50:03):
I would have to double
hold couch cushions because
Emily would be punching so hard.
I couldn't just hold up apillow or one couch cushion.
I used to have to taketwo of them, babe.
Emily (50:13):
My dad taught me how
to punch when I was a kid.
Matty (50:15):
Yeah, well,
it stuck with you.
And I would, I just want to sayone more thing about healthy.
And in this moment, you mayhave someone else that's
wrapped up in this and you mayneed someone else to help you
with this expression or theyreally need to be a part of it.
Or in this case, Emily andI supporting each other by
holding up couch cushions.
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You know, we're just holding aspace for an emotional reaction
and just letting Emily gowherever she needs to go and
just hold a space for her.
You may need to do thesethings alone because if
you have a bunch of buriedanger and rage, and I went
through that with my childhoodtraumas, I had tons of it.
I didn't want to create karma byjust raging at other people and
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you know, blowing my top off atpeople that didn't deserve it,
that had nothing to do with it.
So I bought a punching bag.
I started playing firstperson shooter video games
called Call of Duty and Halo.
And I just imagined somebody'shead was on the head of
everybody else on the screenthat I was fighting against.
And I worked through anger andrage this way until I got to
a point where I didn't feel soangry and I was ready to get
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into the fear and the sadness.
I had to work througha lot of that stuff.
So you just kind of have tofigure out what's appropriate
and healthy for you.
And is that a soloemotional expressions?
Is there someone that canhelp you with these things,
you know, so only you aregoing to know best there.
But I did want to putthat out there that.
You know, it may be somethingyou need to do alone and
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just have to determine likewhat you're feeling and
How best to do that and notcreate karma for yourself.
Emily (51:48):
Yeah punching the bed.
Doing like a kickboxingvideo on youtube.
Um, I mean hit traininghas been great for us.
I've tried not to use it as ananger outlet though because I
want to really be in my body anduse it as a positive expression,
but there are some times thatthere were a couple times
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frustrations get worked out.
Sure, that it definitelyhelped with frustrations.
Running, taking a walk innature and just allowing
yourself to just be.
Maybe listening to yourfavorite pump up song or mix.
Matty (52:22):
Hugging trees.
They have deep rootsinto Mother Earth.
Ask a tree if you canshare your emotions with
it and what's going on.
And if it'll help you absorbsome of those and move
them for you and groundthem into Mother Earth.
Emily (52:34):
Oh, that's a good one.
Matty (52:36):
Yeah, I've
done that before.
I've had moments where I'mjust shaking mad, holding
and hugging a tree, andlike, furious, and the tree's
just like, I got you, bro.
You just hold on.
And then that turns into mecrying, and like, softening,
because my loving spacewas being supported by
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a tree, whose roots raninto Mother Earth deeply.
I don't know if you rememberthat one walk we used to do
at Richmond Hill all the time.
Emily (53:03):
Oh yeah, I know exactly
which tree you're talking about.
Matty (53:05):
That huge, that huge
pine that we couldn't quite even
like touch hands when we held.
I used to do that solo.
Emily (53:09):
That's exactly
the tree that I saw.
Yeah.
When you were saying that.
Matty (53:12):
That tree's helped
me through some things.
Emily (53:14):
I love lots of trees,
but that tree we definitely
hugged on lots of occasions.
Matty (53:18):
Yeah.
Emily (53:20):
Stomping your feet
could be another one as well.
As long as you don't do it sohard that you hurt your shins.
But I think we have brought up,you know, a good amount of ways
that you can process emotions inan appropriate and healthy way.
And that's a reallygood thing to do.
You want to work through theseemotions because you want to
get them out of your body.
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It's very important tomove them through your
body and to get them out.
That's why a lot of thethings that we brought
up are physical things.
And crying, that's a wonderfulthing to do, especially,
you know, if you're holdingonto a lot of grief.
It helps with anger, sadness.
I mean really ithelps with everything.
I've definitely foundmyself crying for lots
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of different reasons.
Matty (54:03):
Basically, we've buried
unresolved emotions in our
body and we're holding themin place, without movement, so
we want to move in some way.
Even if that's, like Emilymentioned, journaling,
that's a movement.
Crying's a movement.
Emily (54:17):
Dancing.
Dancing's a movement.
Matty (54:20):
Right, yeah.
Punching things.
I mean, just whateverit is, however it feels
healthy and safe to you.
Move.
Give it your vibratingvoice and move it.
That's the point of movementis because you're holding
it in place, buried in yourbody, where it can't move.
And to honor that emotion,to feel that emotion means
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to give it movement, toexpress it in some way.
Emily (54:44):
Yes.
And a lot of times you'llfeel a lot better after this.
But, if you wore yourselfdown because you've had a
lot of anger, sometimes, youknow, you may need to have
a nice rest or some sleep.
And then you'll feellighter after moving these
emotions in your body.
Matty (55:01):
Even if you don't move
all the way through the backlog
and you need many, many, manysessions of emotional movement.
I personally can attest,I felt lighter each
time and it got easier.
And it helped my bravery ingoing in to re experience
to go through my emotionsthat I hadn't felt because
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I had done it before.
And I felt better and nowI have proof in my reality.
Whoa, okay, that wasn't quitethe mountain I thought it was.
I can do this.
I even did that myself.
Oh, I can do thiswhen I've got support.
Cool.
And you just get better andbetter at it and you get lighter
and lighter as you do it.
There really is moreliberation each time.
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As you move your emotions outof your body, you're liberating
your body, holding them.
And then in time, you'reliberating your mind
and your emotional body.
And wild, cool, crazy thingscan happen when we really
get liberated and we getto the point of finding out
the root cause, changingperspectives, healing things.
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And we're going to get intothat in next week's show.
Emily (56:08):
Yeah.
And I just want tobring up one more step.
I feel like this step isimportant because this
is not a perfect process.
When you're dealing withemotions, there is no perfect
way just to eliminate.
That is not the goal.
The goal is not to eliminateemotions altogether.
The goal is, in this last step,is you start to remind yourself
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the next time it comes up.
And then you begin the processover with the awareness,
with the identification, andthe processing of the steps.
And, I mean, this remindingprocess comes with a
lot of self compassion.
This is where youbegin to really try to
practice self compassion.
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And that is what's going tohelp you move through these
emotions in a healthier,non detrimental way.
And the goal is to lessenthe response to the trigger.
That is the goal.
And I mean, if one day you don'thave a response at all to the
trigger, that's incredible.
But the goal is to lessenthe response, lessen the
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fury, lessen the rage.
Lessen the amount ofemotional response that
you have to the trigger.
That is the goal.
Matty (57:20):
And in doing this
work it actually makes it
easier for you to handle thespontaneous emotions that
are coming up in your presentreality, whether you are or
are not getting a trigger.
As you lessen thesetriggers when they come,
but if you're not gettingtriggered, it's easier to
handle what's going on.
And you'll have less momentswhere you're like, this is too
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much to process, I'm going tobury these unresolved emotions.
And we don't really consciouslythink that, it just happens,
but that will happen lessand less because of the
more emotional work you do.
You actually become stronger atprocessing your emotions in the
moment because you're workingthrough a backlog of them.
Because you're doing this work.
So you create less of backlogslike this as you work through
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them too, because you're ableto handle so much more in
your life as it's coming up.
Emily (58:10):
And if you have
experienced any of these things
that we've mentioned, justknow that you are not alone.
This is definitely partof the human condition.
And just know that we loveyou and we're sending support
energy your way as you movethrough your emotions and
move through this process.
Matty (58:32):
If you've got
any questions or want to
share your experiences,feel free to email us.
There's always a link inthe description of every
show with our email.
We'd love to hear from you.
We really do enjoy wheny'all reach out and tell
us a few things and what'sgoing on in your world too.
Part of why we podcast isto connect with you and
not just us talking to you.
So feel free to connectright back with us.
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Thanks for joiningus today, y'all.
Emily (58:56):
Yeah, thanks so
much for joining us.
Matty (58:58):
And stay
tuned for next week.
We're going to dive intoemotional energy that we
carry from past lives,epigenetics from our ancestors
and a couple other things.
We're going to get intosome sharing of some
wild stories of healingthrough emotional movement.
And when you get on theother side of your emotions
and you're liberated, whatcan change in your reality!
Emily (59:21):
Yeah, the
magic can happen.
Matty (59:24):
It's pretty
freaking cool.
And we're gonna share acouple things with y'all
next week about that.
So stay tuned.
And in the meantime,have a wonderful week.
We love ya.