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Matty (00:05):
Hello, amazing souls
and welcome to today's show.
We are so excited tobe with you today.
We are going to be deep divinginto the energetics of emotions.
Something we care tremendouslyabout and kind of get giddy
about talking about howall this works when we're
sharing with each other.
So we're really excited to diveeven deeper into unresolved
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emotions and the effects thatit can have on your body like
through physical injury, yourmind as in how it can affect
your psyche and in turn affectyour life and even your soul
by actually blocking you fromyour soul's purpose because
it prevents you from seeingyour purpose with clarity.
Emily (00:46):
Hello everyone.
Yes.
Like Matty said, we are soexcited about this episode.
This is something that wethink and talk and really
just ruminate on so much,like in our own lives, but
also just trying to figure outand think about how it works.
Matty (01:07):
All the little
energetic connections and
the mind blowing stuff.
I just, I'm so excited toget into this with you today.
Emily (01:15):
Indeed.
So let's talk aboutyour emotions.
So how is it that your emotionscan even have an effect on your
body, your mind, and your soul?
Well, your emotions can causedistortion in your thinking.
Your perceptions and the view ofyourself and your body and that
can ripple into negative selftalk that can be detrimental
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to your health and well being.
I mean, we really coveredthis in the last episode
where we talked about hownegative thinking and negative
self talk can like really,I mean, it can really cause
lasting damage to your body,to your mind, to your soul.
So if that's something that youare interested in and diving
deeper about, then listen tothe episode right before this.
Matty (02:01):
What's on the other
side of your emotions?
Emily (02:04):
And not only does
this distortion and you're
thinking from your emotionscause issues for yourself,
but it can cause distortionin how you view others as well
by causing issues with trust.
It can cause issues withyou fully letting go and
surrendering to life.
It can cause all kinds ofissues in your relationships
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if you are, if you have all ofthese distortion surrounding
the way you think of othersand the way you view others.
And I mean, if you're constantlythinking that you're going
to be betrayed or you'reconstantly thinking that other
people can't be trusted, thenthat is going to cause real
issues in your relationships.
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I mean, every singleone of them, even your
close relationships.
Matty (02:52):
Anything and everything
you're trying to manifest in
your life, or that's alreadythere, these distortions
are going to cause problems.
Emily (03:00):
Yeah.
Matty (03:01):
Absolutely.
Emily (03:03):
And I meant to say even
in your not close relationships
earlier, so they will causeissues in both your close
and your like acquaintancerelationships if you have
issues with how you view others.
Matty (03:16):
So we're going to
approach this from three
different perspectives.
We're going to dive intoepigenetics, which is the study
of how environmental factorsand behaviors can alter the
way genes are expressed withoutchanging the DNA sequence.
Emily (03:31):
That's so cool.
Matty (03:33):
Mind blowing.
This, the stuff that'sout there with epigenetics
and epigenetic inheritancethese days is just so cool.
We're gonna dive into pastlife hangovers, which is a term
that Emily and I coined whenan energy from a past life,
from an experience, just likewe talked last week about how
sometimes our life's experiencesget unresolved and we bury
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things to deal with them lateror to never deal with them.
Well, those kind of things thathappen in past lives, well,
guess who's got to deal with it?
That'd be you.
That'd be me.
Whoever's living that currentlife for your soul right now.
And if we don't deal with it, wekeep passing it on to the next.
So these past life hangoverscarry over into subsequent
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lifetimes, the energy does.
These can cause dualisticbeliefs, rigid ways of thinking
and limited beliefs or beliefsabout your limitations that
don't exist that you don'thave, but now you have a belief
that you have a limitationthat you don't really have.
It can really kind of muckup the energetic field of
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what's going on in yourworld, in your life and like
Emily just just talking aboutcreate these distortions.
And lastly, we're goingto dive into time capsules
and one of our all timefavorite energetic healers.
Time Capsules is a term coinedby Barbara Brennan that talks
about the energetics as towhy someone keeps injuring
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themselves in the same areaof the body over and over
again in the same lifetime.
And this can also occurover many, many lifetimes.
So if you have a place on yourbody, you've always banged
it up, maybe even broken abone before in this area.
Over and over again, youjust seem to constantly
have some sort of injury orsomething coming up there.
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Pay attention to timecapsules, because it's going
to get real interesting.
Emily (05:25):
Yeah, and in the last
episode we talked about how
emotions can be stored in thebody, and then this is going
to even go deeper into that, asto how emotions can be carried
over from lifetime to lifetime.
So, yes, like Matty said, it'sgoing to get real interesting.
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But before we get started ontalking about epigenetics,
we really wanted to sharethis story with you.
Basically because itrepresents a miracle.
But also it illustratesthe power and intensity
that emotional workcan have on your life.
This is a true story, andthis emotional work more or
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less brought our friend'smother back from the dead.
This story is justso incredible.
I'm, I was in tears when,when I heard this story,
when it was shared with me.
So I thought it wasjust very empowering
and so cool to share it.
So like I said, about ourfriend's mother, for over
a year, and maybe evencloser to two years, I
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can't quite remember, butI know it's over a year.
Our friend's mother hasbeen under 24 hour care.
She has been bedridden,unable to walk, or use
the bathroom on her own.
And, just a little background,this is a woman who spent
the majority of her life onsome sort of antidepressant.
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And not just one, you know,there was definitely a cocktail
of, of things that she tookfor over 30 years of her life.
I mean, a very long time.
She held others responsiblefor her emotions.
And because of that, it createda lot of unnecessary guilt and
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blame for our friend who reallytried, I mean, everything that
he could to make her happy.
And, I mean, he, he's justsuch a, he's a beautiful
person, so he really tried.
I mean, he spent his lifetimetrying to help make her happy.
So, to our friend, this issomething very interesting.
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More recently our friend decidedto get a handle on his health.
He began exercising regularly,eating healthier, and did
a whole lot of processingand emotional work.
He decided that it was agood idea for him to sleep in
the other bedroom away fromhis family so that he could
use that time to process, tocry, and just work through
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a lot of, like, really heavyemotions that kept coming up
for him, and he even startedthe process of trying to
accept his mother's death.
I mean, that's how bad offit seemed and that's how it
seemed like it was going.
The sleeping in the otherbedroom and this deep processing
lasted about a month for him.
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In addition to this healso changed his internal
dialogue and handled himselfwith more compassion, care
and just over all love.
He started being moreselective about who and
what kind of energies heallowed into his life.
And he really started tofocus more on the things
that he wanted to focus on.
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And really tried not to allowlife to kind of take him
away from the things that hereally deemed important and
really wanted to focus on.
So he basically, after thismonth, he re emerged from
his cocoon just so muchstronger and more confident
and just a more wellbalanced version of himself.
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I mean, you could alsosay he, like, up leveled
his inner authority.
And so, after all this work,he was noticeably feeling
way better, and becauseof that, he continued his
exercise, he continued eatinghealthy and his healthy
thinking regimen as well.
So that's all stuff that he'skept up this entire time.
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So this incredible thinghappens, about a month
or so after that, I mean,this is just so incredible.
His mother, who wentfrom bedridden for over
a year, emerged as well.
Like, re emerged.
She went from bedriddento now being in physical
therapy and walking withthe help of the bars.
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And this was a decision thatshe made completely on her own.
This is something that ourfriend tried and tried to talk
her into, to try to help hersee the light, or just help
her want to help herself.
And, I mean, tono avail, at all.
Like I said, he was inthe process of accepting
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his mother's death.
And not only that, but like,she started, she apologized
to him for blaming him forall of her unhappiness and,
and making him responsiblefor her and her emotions.
She said that she no longerwanted to be separated and
hidden from her emotions.
That she just decided thatwhatever comes up, whatever,
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you know, negative feelings, orbad feelings, or happy feelings
come up she was there, and shejust wanted to face them, and
she just wanted to feel them.
She was tired ofmasking all of that.
She wanted to feel again.
And because of this,their relationship is
stronger than ever.
He gets so excited to talkto her now, and to keep
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her updated on his life,and going to visit her.
Even more than that, heno longer carries this
emotional burden of herhappiness on his shoulders.
It was just such an incrediblestory, and he even sent me a
picture of the two of them.
And these are people thatI've known for over 20
years, I mean, Matty too.
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We've both known them forwell over 20 years, and
we have never seen hereyes sparkle in this way.
It was just like thisincredible weight was lifted
off of her shoulders and itbegan with her being willing
to face her hard emotions.
And she realized that shewas the one in control
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of her own life andthat she was responsible
for her own happiness.
And it's just such an incrediblestory, and I mean, it's amazing.
So for us, we thought thiswas a great story to share
because this incrediblestory poses two questions.
The first one is, is itpossible that the emotional
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work that her son did havean effect on her as well?
Like, is it possiblethat it helped her?
And two, generally, does theemotional work that we do with
ourselves ripple through ourDNA and affect our other family
members in the here and now?
Matty (12:13):
And there's no way
to know for sure, either
way, in scientific terms.
But the circumstantialevidence of this story and
experiences in our livesas well sure make us think
that it does have an effect.
And if you've ever heardpeople talk about genetic
karma or ancestral karma orthe energy in your ancestral
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line being passed down to you,I'm a big believer that that's
the case that we take on certainkarma within our family line.
Sometimes we're born into thesefamilies to be cycle breakers
to put an end to it, to theenergetics within that and it
needs somebody to break it.
So if it can be passed downI sure think changes can be
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passed all around, right back upwhen we make shifts ourselves.
Right back up the ancestralline to all of our ancestors
and anyone that comes after.
Emily (13:07):
Because
time isn't linear.
Matty (13:08):
Exactly.
We, we have this linear concepthere on Earth as part of how
Earth works in the program.
So there's a past, a present,and a future, but divine
time is just divine time.
It's all now.
Everything just is.
Emily (13:24):
So let's get started
and we're going to dive
into the energetics of thoseburied unresolved emotions
and where their root causecould be located when
it's in your lifetime now.
Matty (13:36):
Yeah, whether it
started here or not, but
it's here now for you.
So the first place we want tojump into is how emotions and
how these unresolved energiescan be passed down from
ancestors through epigenetics.
Some of the emotionalstuff inside you could be
coming from your ancestors.
Epigenetics is the studyof how environmental
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factors and behaviors canalter the way genes are
expressed without changingthe DNA sequence itself.
None of this stuff'sgetting rewritten.
What happens is the energythat causes proteins to be
read as on or off in yourgenes, this is what happens.
These are the changesthat take place.
And that these epigeneticchanges can be passed down
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through generations and canaffect your health and your risk
of disease, like physically.
Epigenetics is alsothought to be the link
between nature and nurture.
This is that age old, is it yourDNA, or is it your environment
that you were raised in?
I've always wondered in mylife, well can't it be both?
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Can't it be a little of each?
And epigenetics ishelping us to bridge that
gap in this argument.
And for me, the coolest part ofthis is epigenetic inheritance.
This is where the naturenurture gets really interesting
because this is the study ofgenetic memory passed down.
What you inherit energeticallyfrom your ancestors, be
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it positive or negative.
Where this really took offwas study of mice and how
they would train, let'ssay, mice to eat cheese.
And cheese is wonderful andwe can all just know how
much little mice love cheese.
Love a little aged cheddar.
It's just, just yummy, right?
And then they would do somethinglike turn on a red light.
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And when the mice ate thecheese, then they would do
like a little electric shock.
So then it became bad.
And through the experience,these little mice learned,
oh hey, the red light'son, don't touch the cheese.
Hey, the red light'soff, yummy cheese.
Well then, the mice had babies.
Cause that's what mice do.
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They have lots andlots of babies.
And they would takethe babies and put them
into this same test.
And sure enough, thebabies knew, red lights
on, cheese is bad.
Red lights off, cheese is yummy.
There was no environment,there was no parents
teaching them this.
Somehow, through inheritance,these mice knew what
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their parents knew.
They had those experienceshardwired in the
energetics of their DNA.
So this is in a scientificway where we first started
to see how epigeneticscan be passed down through
the energy, not just theenvironment, what we experience.
Emily (16:30):
And what's really
interesting about the
mice study is that thiswent on through five to
seven generations of mice.
This wasn't just thebabies that were avoiding
the red light cheese.
It was five to sevengeneration later babies that
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were avoiding the cheesewith the red light on.
So if this tells us anything,I mean, if it tells us anything
about mice, there is definitelya lot of genetic information
that is passed on through,but I think it would be a
little bit naive to thinkthat the same thing does not
happen with humans as well.
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Especially because we can beconscious of these things that
our parents do pass on to us.
There are a lot of thingsthat we are conscious of,
and there are a lot of thingsthat we are not conscious of.
that run programs in ourunconscious that have
been passed on throughour ancestors as well.
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And in human terms you can thinkof survivors of generational
trauma, wars, or disasters.
And I mean, this can manifest astheir children or grandchildren,
where anytime the thunderhits or they hear a loud
noise, they can be jumpy orthey can be just terrified
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of storm and not reallyhave any direct link to that
themselves in their lifetime.
This can also manifest inthe ways of like personal
trauma, poverty, enduringabuse, addictions, undiagnosed
mental health disorders.
And how these could altergenetic markers in someone's
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DNA and memory and subsequentbeliefs can be passed down
through their ancestral lines.
Even studies with humanshave shown that it can
be passed on through atleast five generations.
Matty (18:31):
Yes.
It can.
That was a really importantpiece of information, I got
excited about the experimentand failed to talk about was
that this lasted for fiveor seven generations deep.
But knowing that you havethis great fear of water
and then finding out laterin life through genealogy
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that one of your greatgrandparents died drowning.
You've had no experiencethat would give you this fear
of water, but yet there itis in your cellular memory.
It's just a small exampleof how this energy can be
passed down through theDNA, through the genes.
Emily (19:10):
Yeah, so those kind of
things can manifest as fears,
and just trauma in your body.
Like literally causing traumain your body when you have
these certain triggers that,that are causing your DNA to
act or react in certain waysto these different triggers.
Matty (19:32):
So when you've had
ancestors that have gone through
these generational traumas orpersonal things, it can leave
their ancestors, people likeyour parents, yourself, future
generations, can potentiallybe emotionally predisposed
to anxiety, helplessness,shames, fear, depression,
trouble forming relationalbonds, maybe substance
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abuse, or lack of controlwith aggressive behavior.
And to make matters worse, someof these things, these cycles,
they can be further perpetuatedthrough words, through family
mottos, and generalized wayspeople think about themselves
as part of this group orfamily that they are in.
So if your great grandparentshad super hard financial
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times, if they were around inthe Great Depression, here in
the states, what was that 28?
1928?
Something like that couldend up going through the
cycles as money is finite.
It's very hard to come by,and there's not enough.
You could even havefamily mottos around that.
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Well, that's just our luck, theydon't have the money for it.
Money doesn't grow on trees.
Where are you going toget the money for that?
Put that back.
That's not essential.
We don't have the money for it.
These kind of mottos, thesethings that are said over and
over again can really perpetuatesome of these energies.
And you're just hearing thisbecause it's what your parents
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said, and it's just what theirparents said, and it's what
their parents said to them.
It just kinda gets passeddown and then reaffirmed
through behaviors.
Through the environment,which reinforces the
epigenetics in another way.
It's not just aninheritance of energy now.
It's an environmental,behavioral, family
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motto passed on as well.
Emily (21:28):
Yeah, and I feel
like, I mean, yes, we are
talking about epigeneticshere, but any time that a
thought turns into somethingthat is said out loud, that
already gives it more power.
And then the more thatemotion put behind this
thought said out loud, thateven gives it more power.
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And then repeatingthis thought out loud
with this emotion over andover and over that just
like really solidifies it.
It literally makesthis energy dense.
Matty (22:01):
Yeah that's energy
stacking which can be
great when you're trying tomanifest something and you're
working on positive beliefsand affirmations and you're
using your thoughts and youremotions and the vibratory
force of your voice and thenyou take aligned actions.
Now, you've got these fourenergies all working together,
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creating not just four energies.
It's one plus one plus thecombination of is three.
One plus one plus one plusthe combination of is six.
It just starts tomultiply and get bigger
and bigger and bigger.
But if we're working on thenegative side of the terms,
the same thing can happen.
Emily (22:39):
Yeah.
Matty (22:39):
Like Emily was saying,
it gets denser and denser
and harder to overcome.
Emily (22:43):
What we really
want to reinforce here
is that awareness is key.
You know, these aren't thingsthat you can stop your whole
family from saying it, youknow, if this is something that
is happening in your family,but you can start to, through
awareness, counteract it.
The next time you findyourself wanting to say
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that family motto, or thinkthat thought, or have that
negative self talk, you canbring awareness to it, and
you can start to correct this.
And by correcting thatI just mean bringing
awareness to it and starthaving more compassionate
and love for yourself.
Because it's really aboutbringing that compassion and
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love and then if that storythat we told earlier illustrates
anything is that that canripple through your family
and have an effect as well.
As well as the entirecollective conscious.
Like more love, more compassion.
That's, that's whatwe'd like to see.
That's what we're allworking on, I feel like
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at a fundamental level.
Matty (23:50):
And start with yourself.
Don't think of it as selfish.
Think of it as, if youdo the work, you're
actually affecting others.
So work on yourself first,because if you're not willing
to change or help yourselfor find more love for you,
it's not going to come fromthe outside in a lasting way,
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it changes on the inside.
The more you can love yourselfand show compassion for
yourself, the more you canin turn receive from others.
As well as find something withinthem and share more compassion
and love for them, for whatthey're going through, for
their unique individualizedexperience, because we're
all going through life.
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We're all havingdifferent experiences.
We're all up and down.
We're all sad and happy.
I mean, it just, we'reall, all the things.
If you can find compassion forthat, for you, you're going to
be able to find it for others.
And that is going to helpthe world so freaking much
as well as helping yourself,which really matters because
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you know, it's your life.
I sure want to find more loveand compassion in my life and I
want more of it coming my way.
And I want to share more.
So, well, once I learnedto start with me and not
just try to do for othersand people please and do
for myself and love myself.
The more I was able to,do for others, the more
positivity that came my way.
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It's wild how that works whenwe start within how much we can
change without on the outside.
Emily (25:21):
And I think it's
important to reinforce that when
you do have more compassion andlove for yourself, then it will
start to alter the way thatyour genes are expressed without
changing the DNA sequence.
So, we wanted to talk abouthow, you know, some examples
of epigenetics and like I justbrought up, it is the study
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of how environmental factorsand behaviors alter the way
your genes are expressed.
It doesn't change your DNAsequence, but it alters the
way these genes are expressed.
So are they being expressed intheir highest vibratory level?
Like through this love andcompassion, or are they being
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expressed through these lowerfrequency, vibratory, vibra
vibratory emotions, suchas hopelessness, or despair?
Like, how are yourgenes being expressed?
Matty (26:21):
So, why don't you
break down some examples of
environmental factors for us.
Emily (26:26):
Some environmental
factors that can make a
difference about how your genesare expressed can literally be
your environmental conditions.
How you feel about whereyou live and the people
that you're around.
Do you hate winters?
Do you hate the heat?
Like how does theweather affect you?
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How does yourenvironment affect you?
Are you living with a lotof people that keep you
triggered all the time?
Are you living with peoplewhere you can have peace
of mind and feel like youcan truly be yourself?
These are definitely thingsto take into consideration.
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How do you feel about where youlive and the people around you?
How about your diet?
You know, what kind of foodare you putting into your body?
Are you putting fresh foodsthat actually have life
force energy or is it allpreservatives and chemicals?
Or fast food that are just,and I'm not saying it's never
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good to have those things.
But if that's all you're puttingin your body, then your body
isn't really being replenishedwith this life force energy.
That's why fresh foods are sogreat because they literally
help to replenish your energy.
You know, what kind ofdrugs, prescription or
recreational are you taking?
These can definitely alter theway your brain works and the way
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that you perceive other things.
As well as chemicals in theair or water, like how polluted
is your air and where you are?
And then how oftendo you exercise?
This can also alter yourchemistry in your brain.
Regular exercise can makea huge impact on your mood
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and your perception on yourworld, the world around you.
And it can help regulate alot of your bodily functions.
Matty (28:24):
Some other examples
of epigenetics and how
behavior gets affected.
And depending on yourenvironment and how you were
raised and the behaviorsthat were modeled to you, you
could end up with somethinglike a fear of failure.
So you don't try new thingsbecause you didn't see new
things working out for others.
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You could have a fear of deaththat borderline paralyzes
you, so you aren't willingto take risks in your life.
Or in a really extremecase leave the house
because you're afraid thatdeath could come along.
You could have a fear ofconflict, so out of that
you become a people pleaser.
Or you just go with thecrowd because you don't
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want to create any conflict,so you're just going to
try to go with the flow.
Which means whatever theflow is for others and what's
going on, because you wouldn'twant to create any conflict.
You wouldn't want to stepoutside of that and choose
something that you really want.
It's just easier to gowith the flow and not have
any conflict in your life.
Emily (29:26):
I'm a sheeple.
Matty (29:28):
Yeah.
That could be oneway to look at that.
How your behavior canget affected through the
epigenetics, through yourenvironment, through,
like I said, the behaviorsthat were modeled to you
can be huge in your life.
And if you never questionyour behaviors, well, you just
don't know what you don't know.
So, you gotta sometimesask those questions.
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Why do I tend to shy awayfrom trying new things?
We're all born, we all die.
I mean, no one wants todie and it to be painful,
but why do I have thistremendous fear of death?
Why do I hate conflict so much?
It's a part of life.
I don't have to create it, butsometimes there's just conflict.
It's just natural, so whydo I run from it so much?
Emily (30:12):
I mean, I don't think
people like any of those things.
But if they're like holding youback and like literally keeping
you from living your life,then there may be an issue.
Matty (30:22):
The intensity with
which things get you, your
fears and your beliefs.
Emily (30:26):
And the last group of
examples are thought patterns
like thoughts or motto that arepassed down from your ancestors,
or that just kind of regularlyjust moving through your family.
Things like, well, wedon't get to be happy.
You can't have that becausethat's just not something
that we get in our lifetime.
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And this could have a lotto do with money as well.
Like, we don't get to behappy or we're not the type of
people that have those things.
Life is difficultand complicated, not
simple and flows.
And I mean, this kind ofthought pattern can cause life
to be way more complicated anddifficult than it needs to be.
Feelings of hopelessnesswhen it comes to owning
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your own personal power.
Things like, well, lifejust kicks you in the ass
and that's all that is.
And you're not willing to stepoutside of that hopelessness
and despair and actuallysee that there's magic
and beauty in life also.
Like, life is all these things.
It's all the things.
The ups and the downs.
It's part of it all.
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And mediocrity, I mean,mediocrity can run
through your family.
You can feel like life doesn'thave anything else in that you
can't rise above that becauseyou've seen your parents, or
your grandparents, or yourgrandparents grandparents,
that's just how we are,that's just our family, and it
doesn't have to be that way.
You can rise above mediocrity.
Matty (31:58):
That's just our luck.
That's one that was setaround my family, right there.
You almost expected somethingbad to happen, especially
if there were good times.
Just lurking around thecorner was the catch 22.
That's just our luck.
Emily (32:12):
And I think that
kind of goes back to not
being able to see the magicand beauty in life as well.
Yeah, sometimes shit doeshit the fan, but then
there's also magic andbeauty in life as well.
And if you aren't willing to seethat other side, then all you're
going to see is the struggle.
Matty (32:29):
Yeah.
If you're always preparing andbelieving the shit's going to
hit the fan, well, what happenswhen the glitter hits the fan?
Can you, can you, can you makeroom for that possibility?
Emily (32:42):
Well, let's move on.
Matty (32:44):
Yeah.
Let's jump into the emotions ofpast life experiences carried
into this lifetime as what werefer to as past life hangovers.
These hangovers get set inplace similar to how we talked
last week about when we'rehaving an experience and
it's too much in that moment.
Those emotions, what'sgoing on and you just
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can't really process, sosomething becomes unresolved.
It gets buried, you can get toit later, work through those
emotions and move forward.
But the longer it staysburied and unresolved, the
more dense it gets being heldwithin your energy field.
And if it never getsresolved, it can carry over
as a past life hangoverinto subsequent lifetimes.
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These kinds of momentscan create dualistic
and limiting beliefs.
Emily (33:33):
So can you explain
a little bit more about
how that comes about?
Matty (33:36):
Well let's say in a past
life, I had a great love, and a
freak accident took them away.
And it hurt.
I mean, that would hurt,emotionally, crazily.
But I couldn't process itall because of the pain.
I just stayed in the painand couldn't, couldn't
really get over it and moveon, move forward with life.
Emily (33:56):
Well, even worse,
you should blame yourself.
Matty (33:59):
Oh that could
be part of it too.
But how about I take on thebelief that I'm not worthy of
love, everyone just leaves me.
A freak accidenttook something away.
That's an irrational reactionor belief created around that
pain that I never heal from.
And then I come into asubsequent life and I
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need to work on that.
So this past life hangoverenergy comes in and it could
actually this dualistic belief,like we're humans, we all
want love and companionship.
We all want to have agood time, have some sex.
Most of us most people wantto procreate and create
families and have deepconnections and stuff.
But i'm holding in placethat everyone just leaves me.
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I'm not, I don't deserve love.
I'm not worthy of it.
So how do you helpcreate this without this
awareness of this belief?
So there's this dualisticlimiting belief here where
I want a deep connectionand love in my life,
that makes total sense.
I haven't had an experience inthis life that would be pushing
it away, but I'm holding thisbelief that I'm not worthy
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of this, that everyone justleaves in the end anyway.
So what's the point?
Well, where do I gowithout this awareness?
Emily (35:12):
And this could be an
unconscious belief that you are
not even aware of, necessarily.
It could just be this thingthat is like running a program
in your subconscious mind thatis blocking you from having
what you want in this lifetime.
Matty (35:26):
And it may
be why relationships
aren't working out.
Why they're blowingup in your face.
Why people tend to justleave, maybe even when they
seem like they're going good.
But that emotional pain or thatemotionality in those moments,
it's really trying to get tothat root cause holding there,
which is from a past life.
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So this is where we needto feel into these moments.
Hey, what else is going on here?
Oh, this makes sense.
I mean, my relationshipended, I'm really hurt.
Is there anythingelse happening here?
Is this attachedto something else?
What do I do so thisdoesn't happen again?
How do I work through this?
Emily (36:06):
And I very much believe
that these programs that are
in your subconscious minddo come out through your
thoughts and your thinking.
Like, what is yourautomatic thought after
that relationship ends?
Is it, well, peoplejust leave me anyway?
If that's your automaticthinking, then chances are
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that is some sort of programbeing held into place.
And whether that came fromthis life or a past life,
it's still creating havocin your, in your life now.
Matty (36:39):
The unconscious comes up.
It may not be in fullconscious awareness of
it, but it bubbles up.
It comes out quite often,especially when we're not
really aware of an unconsciousbelief yet and starting
to get our finger on it.
It is those slip of thetongue moments, the,
where'd that come from?
Why did I just say that?
That thought is completelycounterintuitive to what
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I'm experiencing right now.
These are the signsthat there's something
under the surface there.
There's something more thanthat moment that's happening
in your life right now thatis being triggered for sure.
Emily (37:13):
Absolutely.
And they also come out throughirrational emotional reactions.
Like, and these are theemotional reactions that come
out that don't really make sensebased on what is happening.
Matty (37:28):
I even wanted to say
too, that sometimes these past
life hangovers before we'rereally starting to become aware
of them, they have a physicalrepresentation, the energy
does being held in the body.
So you may have aches and painslike physical symptoms where
that energetic memory is held.
That wouldn't consciously makesense, but whatever it is,
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you may have a weird littleache or pain or something
going on in your body.
I want to jump intoirrational reactions just
a little bit and kind oftalk about those some too.
These often irrationalreactions with our emotions,
they can come from our ownexperiences as children
when our consciousnesswas less developed.
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So, when it pops up again later,it wouldn't really make sense.
Because it's coming from,say, a three year old's or a
nine year old's consciousnessversus your adult self now,
who's way more consciouslyaware, way more intelligent
than what that child took in.
But also with apast life hangover.
It wouldn't make sense either,just like it wouldn't make sense
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to a child's consciousness.
Because that energy, that rootcause, is coming from a past
life experience where you don'thave a relevant experience
in this life to associate to.
And it's the irrationalstuff that's key to knowing
that there's somethingburied or unresolved when it
comes to emotional energy.
A few examples of irrationalemotional reactions, it's
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basically when the intensitydoesn't match the situation.
Like reacting as though yourpartner betrayed you or cheated
on you when all they did wasask someone for directions and
they smiled at each other whenthey were saying thank you.
Were you betrayed orcheated on in a past life?
Is it possible that thatenergy is held in place?
You could come to a four waystop and, as it becomes your
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turn to go through, someone justspeeds across the intersection.
Which is frustrating, butyou lose your shit over it.
And the level of, like,anger and frustration
doesn't match that moment.
Where is all that anger andfrustration coming from?
What's really triggered there?
Were you maybe made to holdback your anger as a child?
Is there something from apast life that is still there?
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So anytime something thatcould be frustrating or angry
to you triggers that, andit gets that more intense?
Or if you were made to holdback as a young kid, no,
that's not proper behavior.
Even though you wereangry about something,
so then you bottle it up.
Well at some point weneed to work through
this backlog of emotions.
Let's say you're at the grocerystore, and they're out of
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several things on your list.
How Rationally, there's tonsof other choices of food,
but instead of pivoting tosomething else, you become
overly dejected, feelinglike there's nothing left and
you're going to have to starve.
Emily (40:15):
We saw that a few
times when we worked in
the restaurant business.
Matty (40:18):
Yeah, seriously, right?
Emily (40:19):
People losing their
fucking minds because
you're out of something.
Yeah.
Like you can justfreaking manifest it
on the spot for them.
Matty (40:27):
There's 23
other entree choices.
Good.
Could we please justfind another one?
Emily (40:32):
But you could definitely
hear that child consciousness.
Matty (40:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
I never thought aboutthat that way back then.
Losing their minds overthe one choice of dinner
that's out there that Idon't have control over.
You don't have control over,but 30 people in front of
you have already ordered, andthat dish is gone, you know?
So, here you are, thinkingyou're gonna starve, like,
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you're having an irrationalreaction, you're just not gonna
get what you wanted on yourlist, but you're gonna be okay.
But is there a pastlife experience?
Or maybe did your ancestorsgo through a really hard time?
Where food shortages werecreating so much doubt around
being able to take care ofone of the most basic needs
of our lives, and that'sto feed ourselves, that's
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to take care of hunger.
So this is the kind of stuffthat you can when you're
having it, what would be anirrational reaction to your
surroundings, to your situationis a surefire sign that there's
something else going on.
Something else that's gettingtriggered or buried within
you from a past life, from anearly childhood experience, or
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potentially being passed downthrough epigenetics as well.
It's your awareness of thisthat can allow you to work
through the emotions and feelinto them and to give them that
vibration and that movement.
Because held emotions reallyjust need to be moved and be
felt because that's what theydidn't get in the first place.
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So working through thesethings, feeling these things,
creates a lessening of theload of an energetic weight of
emotions that you're carrying.
And if you can work throughand get to that root cause,
you can actually nullify itand then be done with those
buried unresolved emotions.
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And that's where you getto liberation and freedom.
At least around thatemotional cause right there.
I mentioned having physicalsymptoms, maybe little aches
or pains and earlier broughtup, do you have an area
of your body that you'reinjuring kind of repeatedly.
This unresolved energy couldbe attracting an experience
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that's trying to get theenergy, the movement it needs
by creating a scenario in thislifetime of yours like injuries.
You want to kick us offinto time capsules, my love?
Emily (42:56):
Such a cool word too.
Matty (42:56):
The energetics
of stuck energy.
Emily (43:00):
Yeah, so as we mentioned
before, time capsules are
a term and really somethingobserved by Barbara Brennan,
and she talks about this inher book, Core Light Healing.
She time capsulesas blocked creative
consciousness that occurs ina certain area of the body.
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Time capsules are locatedin a specific part of
your human energy field.
Where this creativeconsciousness gets frozen,
inside and outsideof the physical body.
So these time capsules arecharacterized by a particular
type of reoccurring woundthat happens on the physical
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plane across many lifetimes.
So keep in mind that blocksthat eventually manifest as
physical pain will show up onthe energetic level before they
show up on the physical level.
So if there is somethingthat is in your energy field,
it will show up before itmanifests on the physical level.
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This idea of time capsules,when somebody keeps repeatedly
hurting themselves in aparticular part of their body.
Or there is a place wherethey just can't seem to bring
full health or has chronicpain in a certain area, this
could be what's going on.
It could be this ideaof a time capsule.
So these wounds, they donot necessarily happen in
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a linear fashion, meaningthat every single lifetime
following the original wounddoesn't necessarily wound
themselves in the same way.
And what's particularlyinteresting about this idea of
time capsules is that BarbaraBrennan, she that time capsules
coagulate around a particulararchetype that carries a
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particular dualistic beliefsystem associated with it.
So when she says coagulate, sheliterally means that they start
to stick together and becomemore and more concentrated
within the energy field.
And the way it works is thatthe oldest, or the origination
point, or the root cause,Meaning, the time and location
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in the body that the injuryor wound first occurs, that's
what I mean by the root causeor the origination point.
So each subsequent lifetimethat you have this archetype,
this specific archetype,with that same dualistic
belief system that startedthe wound in the first place.
It will begin to stack moreand more of that energy
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on of the one before it.
But, if you were to incarnateinto a different archetype
that did not carry thatdualistic belief system,
then it would not perpetuate.
in that lifetime.
So it's super interestingto think about.
As this energy starts to getstuck in your energy field,
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the previous wound becomesdenser and more concentrated
within the energy field.
And the freshest, injury becomesthe largest and most accessible,
like within your energy field.
So if you think about itin terms of, like, healing
work and energy work.
If you were to dive into thiswound, you would be able to
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clear that wound because itis the freshest, it's the one
that's, like, most accessiblewithin your energy field.
Whereas the previous woundsthat have happened will
become more dense and be stuckbehind these other injuries.
Matty (46:34):
Layers and layers and
if you've ever heard someone
speak about emotional work orenergetic healing or working
through beliefs in your lifeis kind of peeling an onion.
Peeling the layers backand you peel one and you're
like, yay, I got that layer.
Oh, there's another one.
Oh, there's another one,but onions keep growing
outward from the center.
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So it's like this evergrowing onion that keeps
coming and you're justever trying to peel away.
And eventually you can catchup and get to that center.
You can kind of think oftime capsules in that way.
In the center, the beginning,the root causes this small,
tiny, little center ofthe onion, if you will.
And on, outside is a little bitbigger layer, and a little bit
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bigger, and a little bit bigger.
And if you've ever peeledan onion, the outer layer
is a little easier to getto, a little easier to peel.
And then you get into thinnerand smaller and thinner.
But in this case, it'senergetic, and it's denser
and denser and denser.
And it requires moreand more energy.
More and more focused energetichealing, more and more focused
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emotional work, and selfcompassion, and self love,
and emotional expression topeel that energetic layer, to
peel some, that first layerof coagulation away, and
then the next, and the next.
Emily (47:52):
So, let's give an
example of how that plays
out, because I know that wasa lot of information just
kind of being thrown outand can seem very confusing.
Matty (48:01):
Okay, I'm
going to jump in.
Emily (48:03):
Yeah.
Matty (48:03):
So, let's take
the archetype of the
caregiver, the mother.
One who cares forthemselves and others.
Think unconditional lovingaspects, self empowered, you
know, takes care of themselvesand can take care of others.
So if this caregiver has achild who died from a tragic
accident, like a car crash,when the caregiver was driving
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and the caregiver hurt theirknee, this caregiving person
could take on the dualisticbelief that they're unable to
take care of themselves andothers due to this accident.
Emily (48:36):
And to their
shame and guilt that they
feel about their child.
Matty (48:39):
Whatever they're feeling.
I can only imagine,but you could take on
this particular belief.
Emily (48:45):
And this demonstrates
how emotions can distort
your perceptions.
Matty (48:49):
Absolutely.
So you've got, the energeticsin this memory is held
in the knee area, in thewound during this accident.
During this crazy emotionalmoment that happened.
And afterwards, if you can justimagine, some of the beliefs
could be, "Well, I can't be amother, I'll just fuck it up."
"When I'm in controlpeople just get hurt."
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"A fear of parentingin general."
How about "I don't trustmyself to make decisions
when others are involved."All because she's taken on
this shame, this guilt, thispain, this responsibility
for causing this accident.
It may not have even beenher fault per se, but
just wrapped up in this.
We're quick to blameourselves at times.
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So the intensity of thisemotional pain has become
unresolved and buried inthe body as a time capsule.
Whether this is the originalroot cause time capsule.
Or something like this hashappened before and this
moment was trying to stir upthe emotions to work into it.
But instead of that,another layer gets put on
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top and makes the originalroot cause even denser.
So now you've got this caregiverwho's been hurt, has taken on
this dualistic shadow side ofthis archetype that they can't
care for themselves and others.
This shadow side shows uplater as victimhood energy.
As maybe being a slave to othersin exchange for basic needs.
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Or someone withoutboundaries due to their
loss of self empowermentin their own caregiving.
So they don't haveany boundaries at all.
So this reality is trulythat this is one moment.
This is a freak accidentcompared to years of
caregiving and healthyhappy choices and moments.
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But this one crazy emotionallychallenging painful experience,
I mean, it would be fucked up.
Ends up becoming unresolvedand not processed and buried
and becomes this time capsule.
So this creates a backlogof emotions, or what
Barbara Brennan referredto as a time capsule.
It's holding the energy,the memory, and the
emotions in place untilthey can get expressed and
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share their intelligenceand their perspective.
Be felt into and, and balanced,and you've got healing now.
And in the case of thiscaregiver, it, the reality is
it was a freak moment, a crazymoment, but it wasn't her fault.
Emily (51:13):
Or something that
couldn't be avoided.
Matty (51:14):
Or something, yes,
that couldn't be avoided.
It was just aterrible freak moment.
But you were never meantto hold it forever.
Typically moments in our lifearen't meant to become this
pain that's held and carriedfor multiple lifetimes after.
But now you've got the caregiverholding this time capsule.
So the next time this soulincarnates in the caregiver
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archetype re injuring this areaof the body or stirring up this
time capsule, this held emotion,this energetic layer is going to
be more prevalent in this life.
And you're going to havethese re injuries, these
bumps, these bruises, thismaybe broken something,
maybe even a very intenseinjury potentially there.
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But this is when it becomesprevalent now because that soul
has chosen this archetype again.
And probably chose totry to work on the buried
stuff that's there.
To move it out of thatarchetype and get out of
that shadow side and intothe empowered side again.
Emily (52:11):
Yeah, so when that
energy is present within
the energy field, then itliterally makes the body more
vulnerable to that specificinjury because that dualistic
belief and that archetypeis being taken on again.
And it's really, reallyimportant, as we said, when
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you're doing healing work thatthe root cause be addressed.
It's not always easy toget to the root cause.
Especially if it's somethingthat is buried, buried, buried
down deep in, within, and comesfrom past life experiences
or other lifetimes, then,you know, it can be deeply
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hidden in the energy field.
Matty (52:57):
Yeah, there could be a
lot of layers in place there.
Emily mentioned it earlier,how important in the story
she told that illustrated whatcompassion for self and self
love and taking time to care andto work through your emotions.
To honor them, what'sgoing on, and to feel into
things that it can change,but it can take time.
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And there is the experienceof experiencing the emotions,
of giving them a vibration,a movement, because they're
stuck and held within you,and that's how you work
through these old emotions.
It's not just having amental awareness process.
Oh, I've got emotions fromsomething in the past.
It's expressing those emotions.
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It's giving them a vibration,a movement in your body,
a shaking, a crying, ascreaming, a whatever it needs.
And getting that awareness andhigher perspective from it.
And then you can havesome true healing, that's
when you get those shifts.
So sometimes you're justworking on a layer and it
can be nice, but the bigshifts, the big healing is
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when you get perspectives.
When you are willing toask yourself the questions.
Where is all of thisemotional energy coming from?
I feel triggered.
What is it that I'mgetting triggered?
What else is held in place here?
What's happened beforethat's similar to what I'm
experiencing now that I'vebeen holding on to in this
life or from other lives?
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Ask yourself these questions.
Work with your intuition.
Work with your emotions.
Emily (54:29):
That's really important.
Like we said earlier, to,to be able to face yourself.
To be able to face thesedeep parts of yourself.
Because if you aren't willingto face them, then they're just
going to be creating havoc.
Not only in your life, butthe lives of the people around
you as well, because they'regonna come out in all of these
crazy expressions that are notnecessarily being controlled
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by you, if you're completelyunaware and that sucks.
It sucks when you have all ofthese crazy emotional reactions,
and you fly off the handle andsay something you don't mean.
That brings a lot of of shameand a lot of sadness and a lot
of frustration with yourself.
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And it's about workingthrough that and having more
compassion and more love foryourself in those moments.
But also if you are willingto dig down deep you can
help to clear those momentsout as well to where they
don't happen as regularly.
Or they don't happen at leastwithout your awareness or
you feel it start to bubbleup and you're like, oh I
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recognize this within my body.
I'm going to go take some timefor myself now and really try
to work through this on my ownso that I don't act out and say
something that I don't mean.
Or fly off the handle about thiscertain thing when in reality
that's not really what happened.
Matty (55:55):
It's about lessening
the triggers, lessening the
intensity as you work throughit, as you express more.
As you look for moreawareness and you express
more, you lessen the trigger.
And you lessen theopportunity or the chance
to be out of control,to have your unconscious
mind blurting things out.
To doing stuff that you mayor may not regret or feel
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shame about afterwards becauseyou really didn't mean that.
You were triggered and feltintense and lashed out.
We talked about that in thelast show that really in
time you lessen the trigger.
And then you have more controlfor your life consciously.
You're choosing your expression.
You're choosing your reactions.
You're more spontaneousand natural and flowing as
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opposed to having triggersand buried things coming up.
Emily (56:44):
Yep.
The goal is lessen theintensity around the triggers.
The goal is not to ever, neverhave feelings again, that's
just not going to happen.
But you can really lessen thatintensity so that you can feel
your emotions in the momentand not have that backlog of
intensity from past lives orfrom childhood experiences
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that are fueling them.
You can actually be like, Oh,I feel sad in this moment.
And you can just feel thesadness from this moment and
and allow that to happen.
The goal is to lessenthe intensity around the
experience and the trigger.
The goal is never to not haveemotions, because emotions
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are here to guide us.
Emotions are important.
Matty (57:32):
Emotions are amazing and
they are really intelligent
and can tell us how we feelabout things and what we
like and don't like in life.
They are a wonderful,useful tool in the tool
belt of being a human.
You have everythingyou need within you to
move through your life.
We really enjoyed deepdiving into the energetics
of emotions with you today.
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Talking about epigeneticsand past life hangovers and
time capsules and sharinga beautiful, wonderful
story today with you.
If you enjoyed today's show,share it with a friend.
Let other people know.
We would love to bereaching other amazing
like minded souls like you.
We will see you next week.
Emily (58:14):
Yeah, thanks so
much for joining us.