September 29, 2025 • 27 mins
Steph Asks Pandora to Spill the Psychic Tea☕: Candid Conversations with a Psychic Medium |
Episode 2 Welcome back, lovely souls! ✨
In this second episode of Spill the Psychic Tea, Steph and I pick up right where we left off—with laughter, real talk, and plenty of intuitive insight.
We dish about: 🌆 Why some businesses seem destined to fail while others thrive for decades—hint: it’s all about energy, alignment, and sometimes even numerology! 🌎 The universe’s timing when you randomly run into someone you haven’t seen in years (coincidence or divine reminder?) 🤖 Our intuitive take on AI—how to use it wisely, where it’s helpful, and where it might be overstepping 💞 Post-pandemic connection challenges: finding love, making eye contact, and why going “back to basics” might be the biggest spiritual upgrade of all 🎴 Plus, I pull a card from my very own Pandora’s Box of Cards Oracle Deck for the collective energy of August—and the card couldn’t have been more perfect: Harmony 🌈
This episode is filled with soul-stirring moments, psychic perspectives, and playful banter. Whether you're tuning in from the Midwest, the Bay Area, or anywhere in between, this is your invitation to reflect, laugh, and realign.
💬 Drop a comment with your favorite moment, share a time you ran into someone unexpectedly, or let us know what psychic question you want us to answer in Episode 3!
🔮 Ready for a personal reading? Or want to explore your own power crystals? Visit pandorap.com ☕ Stay curious, stay open, and don’t forget to bring your favorite tea. With love and light, Pandora 💫
www.pandorap.com
Episode 2 Welcome back, lovely souls! ✨
In this second episode of Spill the Psychic Tea, Steph and I pick up right where we left off—with laughter, real talk, and plenty of intuitive insight.
We dish about: 🌆 Why some businesses seem destined to fail while others thrive for decades—hint: it’s all about energy, alignment, and sometimes even numerology! 🌎 The universe’s timing when you randomly run into someone you haven’t seen in years (coincidence or divine reminder?) 🤖 Our intuitive take on AI—how to use it wisely, where it’s helpful, and where it might be overstepping 💞 Post-pandemic connection challenges: finding love, making eye contact, and why going “back to basics” might be the biggest spiritual upgrade of all 🎴 Plus, I pull a card from my very own Pandora’s Box of Cards Oracle Deck for the collective energy of August—and the card couldn’t have been more perfect: Harmony 🌈
This episode is filled with soul-stirring moments, psychic perspectives, and playful banter. Whether you're tuning in from the Midwest, the Bay Area, or anywhere in between, this is your invitation to reflect, laugh, and realign.
💬 Drop a comment with your favorite moment, share a time you ran into someone unexpectedly, or let us know what psychic question you want us to answer in Episode 3!
🔮 Ready for a personal reading? Or want to explore your own power crystals? Visit pandorap.com ☕ Stay curious, stay open, and don’t forget to bring your favorite tea. With love and light, Pandora 💫
www.pandorap.com
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, we are back for episode two with Steph
and Pandora where we spill the Psychic Tea and so
we are doing another episode. Thank you. Quick shout out
to all my friends who listened to the first episode
and all of you know Pandora's fans. We appreciate it,
(00:25):
and we thought it was finally time to do a
second episode, right.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean I've been hearing from a lot of
people that we should, so yeah, it's about time.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right. So before we kind of get started in
to the questions, I just thought I would let folks
know that last week I was back home in the
Midwest and I had the pleasure of hanging out with
Pandora for a little Saturday afternoon and it was awesome.
We got to celebrate Pandora's birthday, which was two weeks ago. Yeah,
(00:56):
it was so fun and got to hang out with
their dogs and just you know, reconnect in real life.
It's been like, I don't know, what would you say,
a year.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, it's been about a year, and you know, I
think we had a lot to chat about and some
amazing desserts that you brought. Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, quick shout out to the division Farmers Market. It
was so good, so nice to be back. So yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
And so I think with that kind of my first question,
Like I said, it was awesome to be back home
in the Midwest and in Chicago, and it's just such
a vibrant and beautiful city. But I always have to
laugh being back because there's some of these places that
(01:36):
are like institutions, restaurants, bars, shops that have been around
for decades and they're just like always there. And then
there's also places that you see them like close after
a year and they just cannot keep their doors open
past a year. And I'm always like, is it something
with the building, is it something with the address of
(01:57):
the building, or is it the street corner. W's a like,
I'd love a psychic take on what's with these buildings
and establishments that can a last for decades versus ones
that are just like a revolving door. They're constantly not
being able to make it, even if they put money
into the marketing or the sales pitch or you know,
having the best menu or team. So would love your
(02:20):
take on that type of thing when it comes to
the cities and the businesses that are there.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, for sure. So what I've noticed energetically with some
of the places where that's happening, that I've seen, even
in like my neighborhood, like Lakeview in Chicago, is that
certain buildings tend to attract startup businesses. So they attract
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businesses and people who have big lessons with needing to
get their business planned together, needing to get their lives
on track to be successful. So the lessons that they
walk into two might not be connected to that address specifically,
but to the energy of that building that's there to
be like their school, to get them to upgrade their
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business plan, really challenge them to make it through that
first year of business when most of them fail. Does
it make sense when.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I say it that way, Yes, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean there is also potentially a numerological aspect. So
numerology you add the numbers from left to right together
and then you make it as small as you can.
So if the address is one one one one, then
that's a four, right, So we'd look at the aspect
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of the number four. In the case of a business,
four would be great because that's solid foundation, right, But
if it's like twenty three hundred, so two plus three
equals five. Five is a little bit riskier. Five is
like a gambling kind of number, and usually that's not
the best number. If somebody asks me in a session
about opening a business, I would not suggest that address
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if this is your first time doing business somewhere.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So interesting, Yeah, but if you can look at the
history of a property before you were to go into it,
if you were a business owner wanting to rent somewhere,
and you see that there have been four or five
restaurants that have had a one year lease in that location, No,
that's showing you that it's a learning energy to that
property rather than the one that is going to support
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their ongoing success.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
H Oh. That's so interesting, especially because where I live
there's a ton of commercial properties that are vacant and
it's just kind of sitting there and you're always wondering
something coming or going, and you know, why is it
that things can't make it? So it makes sense that
they are kind of some lessons to be had from
a business standpoint.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, Yeah, definitely. It's really interesting though, because then you
look at some of the businesses that are so well
established that they've been there for sixty seventy years, right,
or sometimes more because they're doing the right thing and
the owner is in harmony with the energy of the building.
You know. That's the other thing too, is that some addresses,
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some buildings will attract people who have that good, rooted,
solid energy because they don't want the turnover. They want
to have someone who's going to take care of them.
The buildings have energy, right.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, And I guess maybe if we take it a
step deeper, it also can depend on like the intentions
of the owner, right, if they're just trying to get
a quick fix, or if they are really putting in
their heart and soul into into a business.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Correct. Yep, it's always good. You know, it's always good
to have a plan, a bigger plan, not just an outline,
not just I like food, so I want a restaurant,
you know, Like those are the ones that usually don't
have the structure to keep them going.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, that is so fascinating because like I always love
going back to Greek Islands, which is one of my
favorite you know, Greek restaurants in Chicago. Shout out to
Greek Islands, and I prove And there's just something so comforting,
me comforting about going back to like a place that's
been there for years, and like the menus the same,
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the food is still great, and so it's one of
those things that really keeps me rooted back to being like, Okay,
I'm back home in Chicago. I'm going to go to
Greek Islands. So it's those types of things where if
if that place would be gone, I'd be like, well, shit,
where am I going to next?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because right exactly, And I mean that restaurant specifically has
all the energy of celebration and tradition, right so and
heart So ultimately that's like for me, it's my heartbeat
when I go there, it's like, oh my gosh, I
remember all these other memories and times that I've been
here my whole life, right yeah. The same for you,
(06:55):
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And I think that's what makes you, know, going back
to Chicago so comforting is because of those places that
are still there. But then when you get the new stuff,
that kind of keeps it exciting too, and you get
to like explore and fall back in love with the
city again or a place again when there is something new.
But it's those places that don't change that kind of
keep it feeling like home.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So definitely, definitely I agree. We need more of those places.
We need more people who were doing good business. We're
bringing value to the neighborhoods uplifting them, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, I guess to follow up on that question too.
You know, one thing that I always wondered from like
a psychic take is when you're out in the wild,
whether you're you know, at the airport or at a
you know, a random bar and maybe a different city,
and you run into someone you know, kind of what
what can we take away from the universe? That happened
(07:50):
to me last week where I was out just shopping
and I ran into an old coworker friend and I
got to meet his son, and so it was one
of the It was I almost like when you said
my name, I had to like my brain almost shorts
start going to be like, okay, who is this person again?
How do I know them? What's their name? And then
it was like, oh my god, yes, of course, da
da da da. And it was always so fun when
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you see someone out in the wild like that, that's
an old friend. But I would love to know your
take from like a universal sign of how we should
interpret something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Most of those signs are us reconnecting with a period
of our lives that we need to go back to
to kind of plug into it. Like that person for
you had an energy that you needed at that time,
and the same you for them, So you both needed
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that spark, that reminder of, oh my gosh, this is great.
So it sort of re energizes that little circuit in
your brain. Right. Other times, when we run into someone
that is maybe not so friendly or a negative experience,
it can be a reminder of something unhealed within us,
(09:06):
especially depending on the type of emotion or energy that
it brings up. But I like to look at it
like from above, like lift up above it and look
at it from a higher perspective, which is we're all
still connected the people that we connect with in this lifetime,
no matter how small or short the connection. We were
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meant to have that connection. Sometimes it's just because we
recognize them, there's something in there that reminds us of
ourselves in that person or in that connection. Right. So
it's very interesting. I find that I have a tendency
to run into people that I don't expect to but
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that I need to. So if you look a little
bit deeper into those moments, what was it that you needed?
Was it that you needed maybe that day to be
surprised or to be remembered, or to maybe connect to
where you first met this person and how far you've
come since then, you know, to use them as like
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a measuring tool to your personal growth.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yep. Yeah, And I think it's to piggyback off of
that too. I think it's always so funny because you know,
for me, if I would see someone I went to
high school with, depending on who it is, I'd either
be excited or I'd like run for the hills. And
so I think that is such a good reminder too
of like thinking about what that point in time was
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like when you run into that person in the wild.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So exactly, because I will say I think a lot
of people use signs coming through social media with running
into somebody or somebody's name coming up as a friend
suggestion or whatever as a bigger sign than maybe they're
really meant to be. But when we run into someone physically,
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think about the timing that universe has to create the
opportunity to get two humans in the exact spot at
the exact moment, right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, Yes, incredible, And I've had to happen internationally before,
which is all that's really when my mind gets blown.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That is so cool. I love it because you're such
an international traveler.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So yeah, yeah, And I think that's like when it's
always like, how the hell are we in the same
spot at the same time, totally unplanned, Like that's where
I'm always like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It does mean that you're also following the path that
universe is laying out in front of you, because I
do believe that universe will light up a certain pathway
or opportunity for us because there's something there. There's like
a jewel on the path that we're supposed to find,
you know, like this ultimate maybe a scavenger hunt right
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to your life. And if you follow the energy rather
than pushing against it like a fish swimming upstream where
there's resistance, if you follow the path that opens up,
then you are likely to find those jewels, good people,
those good connections.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah. I always thought of it just as like, oh,
it just means I'm like on the right path, I'm
like inflow if I ran into someone random that I know.
So yeah, I think that really, uh, you know, correlates.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
To what you're saying too, so have fun.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, And then I think to another quick comparison between
like my time in Chicago versus San Francisco, where I
live now, I'm going to switch gears to the AI.
So here in the Bay we are bombarded with billboards
and all this advertising, and I'm constantly being told to
use AI at work and Gemini and Chatch ept all
(12:52):
the things. But when I was in Chicago, it was
honestly kind of refreshing where I didn't have the or
at least maybe I didn't notice it, the billboards and
the ads for AI, And I would just love to
get kind of your psychic take on like what are
we doing with AI, what's going to happen in the future,
just what your general thoughts are on it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So AI is definitely here to stay, but I feel
like people are kind of taking it as the gospel
truth and they're not checking their references. So in the
good old days, if we had to do a report
for school, we'd have to check our references and state
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our references to make sure that they were valid, right,
But people are like, hey, this machine just told me
that this is the right answer to my question. So
they take it and run with it. I feel like
people are going to hit more roadblocks with that. There
are going to be bigger lessons with that as it
goes on, because AI is learning constantly, right, but it
(13:57):
doesn't always learn from the best sources. Yeah, so we
got to be really careful what we're believing, just like
with news coming at us, what AI is giving us back,
We've got to pay attention to that. And I have
noticed that some clients of mine have asked me questions
about what their I'm going to say the name of
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one of them, just their chat GPT is telling them
because they've been using it as sort of like I
don't want to say, a journal necessarily, but they've been
using it a bit more like a therapist or a
social worker and getting feedback and ideas from AI. Now,
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when it comes to that, AI is not a licensed professional,
so the ideas that come through, I mean, it could
be like talking to a trusted friend, right, but it's
not as valuable as going to a licensed professional. So
I'd be careful with where you're getting your advice from
truly with AI, because it's some clients have run into
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big problems with that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, and I love using it to plan my trips
and for recipes, Like I'll walk around the grocery store
and be like, I have this at home, what's a
recipe I can make with it? And that's like where
it's so easy. But to your point, it could be
pulling from anywhere if I'm asking something more serious, whether
I'd be like a medical question or you know, having
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to look up something related to I don't know where
i'd need like an actual factual source, So that would
be challenging for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah. And I know that some people have gotten in
trouble with AI creating books for them and plagiarism, So
you know, it's it's easy for us to say, oh
my gosh, look AI speaks for me so well, but
then you don't look at it and run it through
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other things to make sure that it's not just completely
plagiarized somebody else's work.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's pretty intense, So everything needs to come with
you know, caution labels.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, and like we have training at work that we
can take to learn how to use AI too, So
it's like it is coming with a training for us,
but it isn't coming with a caution label like it should.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I'm glad that they're doing trainings. I mean that's important,
you know, because when people do things willy nilly, and
also when there are aspects to AI where it's like
turn me into an action figure, you know, it's fun,
it's now it's a game, and now we trust it
because it made that picture pretty or whatever. We kind
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of think it can do everything. But always so be careful,
just like you wouldn't ask a person on the street
their opinion of something. Don't necessarily go to an AI
source to get your answer without double triple checking.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, use your discretion. I guess is ultimately exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It can't replace everything, and it also really isn't supposed
to replace thinking on your own and creating on your own.
People have gotten a little lazy, you know, in one instant,
and we don't use our brains the same way that
we used to. So the other thing that and I
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know I'm speaking exactly for my mother now. She when
I was a kid, would always talk about how the
world wasn't coming from the same base of knowledge. So
like even just the books that she had to read
in school, the classics I didn't have to read in school,
and then we look now to what's being read in
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school or what's being censored in school. So there isn't
the same base of knowledge that was here one hundred
or one hundred and fifty years ago. We've got AI
leading us in new directions, right, So some of the
new directions are good, but having a whole bunch of
humans who don't in the same base of knowledge is
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a little risky.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah. And I think when it comes to like writing
like a book report or any sort of report, we're
just going to go back to paper and pencil, because
how can a teacher or a college professor like actually
prove that, you know, any student today has did their
own work, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And how many people can actually pull out a piece
of paper and a pencil or a pen and write.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's also very true.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I know I got their hand cramping after like a minute,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's true. Yeah, And I like love I still write
like my work notes on on paper and pen and
sometimes if it's been a couple of days, I feel
like I have to like jog my freaking hand again
on like how to write it. It is really funny.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It is, it is, But you know what. That's okay.
These are the things that we've got ahead of us
now that we can work around. We just have to
be careful, you know. Like I think people can tell
when it's AI if if you write it yourself versus AI.
No matter how good AI gets, I still think that
people can tell if they trust and listen with their
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hearts versus just their brains. I think they can tell
the difference. I don't know about you, but I think
they can.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I think it. Yeah, I don't know. I wrote actually
I had it write something at work for me this
week and it was so like uplifting and inspiring, and
my Coger's like, oh my god, Stephanie, this was so
nicely written. And I was like, it wasn't me, it
was our internal AI. I can't take any credit because
it was like the voice of it. It would never
come from like my voice in terms of writing. So
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I think you're definitely right, Like you can get a
sense when it's AI written versus like coming from an
actual person based on the voice of the writing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yep. So that's one more way that you can test
your intuition, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Really just plug into it, does it feel like the
person that you know wrote it, or does it feel
just a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I think the other thing too that's kind of scary
is that when you interact with it more, it kind
of learns you. And so I feel like sometimes I
take what they say with a grain of salt as well,
because I'm like, you're just telling me what I want
to know, because I've just trained you into submission this
AI system.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
So absolutely yes, yes, I mean, which can be good
or it can be really really bad, depending on what
you're training it to do.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Right, Yep, yep, exactly. All right, Well, I think my
kind of final question and then we'll do a card
pole theme for the month of August is really around
you know, what are some of the general themes that
your clients are asking you or you're seen with some
of the most recent readings that you've had.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Okay, so, over the last year and a half two years,
there's been a really big theme of clients getting frustrated
looking for love, and I would say looking for love
and all the wrong places that old song because what
they were doing with apps and online dating, especially during
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the pandemic when people were contained and were scared, They're
not even finding that kind of payoff, right. So during
the pandemic, I had a lot of clients who were
finding short term relationships fun distractions. Now they're not even
finding that, so they're having to go out into the
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real world and find new opportunities to connect with people.
So that's a really challenging thing because people are very
disappointed in the apps and the online dating and all
of a sudden, now they have to go back to basics.
You know, what do you mean, I need to go
to the corner bar or go to an art gallery
opening and actually talk to people, make eye contact, shake
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a hand.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So that's one of the big trends. And the other
thing is that I'm finding that people are wanting to
change jobs and expand their careers. I mean, that's sort
of an a whole life thing, right, except that they
are finding that when they do that, they're only going
to one source to try and find the jobs. So
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I have some people who exclusively just send their resumeated
people on LinkedIn, and they never try any other source,
and they get very limited in their thinking and very
depressed that nobody on LinkedIn is getting back to them.
I'm like, no, you have to expand your search, you have.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
To get creative, so basically done that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I know I exactly I wouldn't either, but that's those
are the people who are thinking this is my best
source because I'll chat with this person for a while,
then they'll like me, then they'll consider me for a job.
And I'm like, no, no, no, that's like dating. No,
we need to look for a job, good job, and
look for the dates the other way. So those are
the two main things. It's just people definitely having frustration
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and having to change the style that they're using to
get jobs and also to connect with humans.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I feel like the connection thing, we're all so starved
for it post pandemic. But it's I think to a
certain degree we forgot how to you know, make small
talk and like connect with people. And I also think
that we all wear like our air pods or you know, headphones,
and you just miss out on those random interactions with
strangers when you're out and about. So I think that
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is such a good point.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, definitely, and people have sort of forgotten how to
communicate with each other and it's an obstacle, like even
with the text, well what do I say and they'll
text high and then they'll get frustrated that the other
person doesn't text back right away. You know, it's like, no,
a real conversation. Pretend in your mind if you ran
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into this person on the street, what would you say?
How would the conversation go? Okay, now write that in
your text field. So, yes, we're we're having to relearn things,
take some stuff back to basics. But it's okay, it's okay.
We as a society, you're learning how to connect again.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And if we don't, we'll just connect with AI exactly
our last resort. All right, Should we do a card poll?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Of course? Yeah, let's I'm gonna use my deck, the
Pandora's Box of cards. It's for a call deck that
I created a couple of years ago. Already, I can't
believe it's been a couple of years. And let's just
look at what's coming up. I'm going to pull a
card for August for the majority of us, because I
really like getting a little preview of what's coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, first second of the month. What do we got?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Well, so I guess the harmony be in tune with
others card on this card, and I'm going to figure
out how to put it on the screen. Somewhere is
an orchestra or a little chamber group playing together.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
This is really this theme is about being in touch
with others. It's funny that we were just talking about
connecting with others, but also remembering that you're part of
a bigger picture, right, So we have this network that
we can connect with and keep expanding out, sort of
like having a ripple effect in the world. So you
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need to harmonize. You need to align your energy with
others rather than being opposing or dissonant with them. So
stop the fighting. Pay attention in August, we're coming out
of mercury retrograde in a couple of Weekslly, I want
to stay in harmony with how you're communicating with others,
So leave your bad mood at home, pay attention to
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how you're communicating, what you're communicating, and ultimately remember that
your energy goes out, you can create a bigger ripple.
You can create bigger energy and you will have more
people come to you in life, like you stuff at
the airport when you ran into your friend. Yeah, yeah,
it's because you bring that kind of energy and harmony.
(26:17):
So you're out there doing it. If I think if
we had one hundred more people doing it or a thousand.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Or I also just like laugh because it's just such
a perfect card for what our conversation was like exactly,
Oh my god, you're kidding me here, like hysterical.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yes, it's perfect, it's perfect. Well, I'm so glad that
we got to chat again and spill some psychic tea
and too. I hope we do it soon. I don't
want to want next time.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I've been drinking my piping hot green tea as well.
So yeah, until next time. We'll definitely do a third episode.
We'll see when we can get our stars aligned and
our schedules aligned to do it. But this was so fun.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Thank you, Yes, and thank you too, And make sure
to subscribe and leave a comment if you have some
questions for us to cover in the next podcast episode.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, I love to
All right, we are back for episode two with Steph
and Pandora where we spill the Psychic Tea and so
we are doing another episode. Thank you. Quick shout out
to all my friends who listened to the first episode
and all of you know Pandora's fans. We appreciate it,
(00:25):
and we thought it was finally time to do a
second episode, right.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, I mean I've been hearing from a lot of
people that we should, so yeah, it's about time.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All right. So before we kind of get started in
to the questions, I just thought I would let folks
know that last week I was back home in the
Midwest and I had the pleasure of hanging out with
Pandora for a little Saturday afternoon and it was awesome.
We got to celebrate Pandora's birthday, which was two weeks ago. Yeah,
(00:56):
it was so fun and got to hang out with
their dogs and just you know, reconnect in real life.
It's been like, I don't know, what would you say,
a year.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, it's been about a year, and you know, I
think we had a lot to chat about and some
amazing desserts that you brought. Thank you again.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, quick shout out to the division Farmers Market. It
was so good, so nice to be back. So yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
And so I think with that kind of my first question,
Like I said, it was awesome to be back home
in the Midwest and in Chicago, and it's just such
a vibrant and beautiful city. But I always have to
laugh being back because there's some of these places that
(01:36):
are like institutions, restaurants, bars, shops that have been around
for decades and they're just like always there. And then
there's also places that you see them like close after
a year and they just cannot keep their doors open
past a year. And I'm always like, is it something
with the building, is it something with the address of
(01:57):
the building, or is it the street corner. W's a like,
I'd love a psychic take on what's with these buildings
and establishments that can a last for decades versus ones
that are just like a revolving door. They're constantly not
being able to make it, even if they put money
into the marketing or the sales pitch or you know,
having the best menu or team. So would love your
(02:20):
take on that type of thing when it comes to
the cities and the businesses that are there.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, for sure. So what I've noticed energetically with some
of the places where that's happening, that I've seen, even
in like my neighborhood, like Lakeview in Chicago, is that
certain buildings tend to attract startup businesses. So they attract
(02:47):
businesses and people who have big lessons with needing to
get their business planned together, needing to get their lives
on track to be successful. So the lessons that they
walk into two might not be connected to that address specifically,
but to the energy of that building that's there to
be like their school, to get them to upgrade their
(03:10):
business plan, really challenge them to make it through that
first year of business when most of them fail. Does
it make sense when.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I say it that way, Yes, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean there is also potentially a numerological aspect. So
numerology you add the numbers from left to right together
and then you make it as small as you can.
So if the address is one one one one, then
that's a four, right, So we'd look at the aspect
(03:42):
of the number four. In the case of a business,
four would be great because that's solid foundation, right, But
if it's like twenty three hundred, so two plus three
equals five. Five is a little bit riskier. Five is
like a gambling kind of number, and usually that's not
the best number. If somebody asks me in a session
about opening a business, I would not suggest that address
(04:05):
if this is your first time doing business somewhere.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So interesting, Yeah, but if you can look at the
history of a property before you were to go into it,
if you were a business owner wanting to rent somewhere,
and you see that there have been four or five
restaurants that have had a one year lease in that location, No,
that's showing you that it's a learning energy to that
property rather than the one that is going to support
(04:30):
their ongoing success.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
H Oh. That's so interesting, especially because where I live
there's a ton of commercial properties that are vacant and
it's just kind of sitting there and you're always wondering
something coming or going, and you know, why is it
that things can't make it? So it makes sense that
they are kind of some lessons to be had from
a business standpoint.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, Yeah, definitely. It's really interesting though, because then you
look at some of the businesses that are so well
established that they've been there for sixty seventy years, right,
or sometimes more because they're doing the right thing and
the owner is in harmony with the energy of the building.
You know. That's the other thing too, is that some addresses,
(05:13):
some buildings will attract people who have that good, rooted,
solid energy because they don't want the turnover. They want
to have someone who's going to take care of them.
The buildings have energy, right.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, And I guess maybe if we take it a
step deeper, it also can depend on like the intentions
of the owner, right, if they're just trying to get
a quick fix, or if they are really putting in
their heart and soul into into a business.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Correct. Yep, it's always good. You know, it's always good
to have a plan, a bigger plan, not just an outline,
not just I like food, so I want a restaurant,
you know, Like those are the ones that usually don't
have the structure to keep them going.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, that is so fascinating because like I always love
going back to Greek Islands, which is one of my
favorite you know, Greek restaurants in Chicago. Shout out to
Greek Islands, and I prove And there's just something so comforting,
me comforting about going back to like a place that's
been there for years, and like the menus the same,
(06:19):
the food is still great, and so it's one of
those things that really keeps me rooted back to being like, Okay,
I'm back home in Chicago. I'm going to go to
Greek Islands. So it's those types of things where if
if that place would be gone, I'd be like, well, shit,
where am I going to next?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because right exactly, And I mean that restaurant specifically has
all the energy of celebration and tradition, right so and
heart So ultimately that's like for me, it's my heartbeat
when I go there, it's like, oh my gosh, I
remember all these other memories and times that I've been
here my whole life, right yeah. The same for you,
(06:55):
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And I think that's what makes you, know, going back
to Chicago so comforting is because of those places that
are still there. But then when you get the new stuff,
that kind of keeps it exciting too, and you get
to like explore and fall back in love with the
city again or a place again when there is something new.
But it's those places that don't change that kind of
keep it feeling like home.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So definitely, definitely I agree. We need more of those places.
We need more people who were doing good business. We're
bringing value to the neighborhoods uplifting them, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, I guess to follow up on that question too.
You know, one thing that I always wondered from like
a psychic take is when you're out in the wild,
whether you're you know, at the airport or at a
you know, a random bar and maybe a different city,
and you run into someone you know, kind of what
what can we take away from the universe? That happened
(07:50):
to me last week where I was out just shopping
and I ran into an old coworker friend and I
got to meet his son, and so it was one
of the It was I almost like when you said
my name, I had to like my brain almost shorts
start going to be like, okay, who is this person again?
How do I know them? What's their name? And then
it was like, oh my god, yes, of course, da
da da da. And it was always so fun when
(08:13):
you see someone out in the wild like that, that's
an old friend. But I would love to know your
take from like a universal sign of how we should
interpret something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Most of those signs are us reconnecting with a period
of our lives that we need to go back to
to kind of plug into it. Like that person for
you had an energy that you needed at that time,
and the same you for them, So you both needed
(08:46):
that spark, that reminder of, oh my gosh, this is great.
So it sort of re energizes that little circuit in
your brain. Right. Other times, when we run into someone
that is maybe not so friendly or a negative experience,
it can be a reminder of something unhealed within us,
(09:06):
especially depending on the type of emotion or energy that
it brings up. But I like to look at it
like from above, like lift up above it and look
at it from a higher perspective, which is we're all
still connected the people that we connect with in this lifetime,
no matter how small or short the connection. We were
(09:27):
meant to have that connection. Sometimes it's just because we
recognize them, there's something in there that reminds us of
ourselves in that person or in that connection. Right. So
it's very interesting. I find that I have a tendency
to run into people that I don't expect to but
(09:48):
that I need to. So if you look a little
bit deeper into those moments, what was it that you needed?
Was it that you needed maybe that day to be
surprised or to be remembered, or to maybe connect to
where you first met this person and how far you've
come since then, you know, to use them as like
(10:09):
a measuring tool to your personal growth.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yep. Yeah, And I think it's to piggyback off of
that too. I think it's always so funny because you know,
for me, if I would see someone I went to
high school with, depending on who it is, I'd either
be excited or I'd like run for the hills. And
so I think that is such a good reminder too
of like thinking about what that point in time was
(10:34):
like when you run into that person in the wild.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So exactly, because I will say I think a lot
of people use signs coming through social media with running
into somebody or somebody's name coming up as a friend
suggestion or whatever as a bigger sign than maybe they're
really meant to be. But when we run into someone physically,
(10:58):
think about the timing that universe has to create the
opportunity to get two humans in the exact spot at
the exact moment, right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, Yes, incredible, And I've had to happen internationally before,
which is all that's really when my mind gets blown.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That is so cool. I love it because you're such
an international traveler.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So yeah, yeah, And I think that's like when it's
always like, how the hell are we in the same
spot at the same time, totally unplanned, Like that's where
I'm always like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It does mean that you're also following the path that
universe is laying out in front of you, because I
do believe that universe will light up a certain pathway
or opportunity for us because there's something there. There's like
a jewel on the path that we're supposed to find,
you know, like this ultimate maybe a scavenger hunt right
(11:58):
to your life. And if you follow the energy rather
than pushing against it like a fish swimming upstream where
there's resistance, if you follow the path that opens up,
then you are likely to find those jewels, good people,
those good connections.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah. I always thought of it just as like, oh,
it just means I'm like on the right path, I'm
like inflow if I ran into someone random that I know.
So yeah, I think that really, uh, you know, correlates.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
To what you're saying too, so have fun.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, And then I think to another quick comparison between
like my time in Chicago versus San Francisco, where I
live now, I'm going to switch gears to the AI.
So here in the Bay we are bombarded with billboards
and all this advertising, and I'm constantly being told to
use AI at work and Gemini and Chatch ept all
(12:52):
the things. But when I was in Chicago, it was
honestly kind of refreshing where I didn't have the or
at least maybe I didn't notice it, the billboards and
the ads for AI, And I would just love to
get kind of your psychic take on like what are
we doing with AI, what's going to happen in the future,
just what your general thoughts are on it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
So AI is definitely here to stay, but I feel
like people are kind of taking it as the gospel
truth and they're not checking their references. So in the
good old days, if we had to do a report
for school, we'd have to check our references and state
(13:36):
our references to make sure that they were valid, right,
But people are like, hey, this machine just told me
that this is the right answer to my question. So
they take it and run with it. I feel like
people are going to hit more roadblocks with that. There
are going to be bigger lessons with that as it
goes on, because AI is learning constantly, right, but it
(13:57):
doesn't always learn from the best sources. Yeah, so we
got to be really careful what we're believing, just like
with news coming at us, what AI is giving us back,
We've got to pay attention to that. And I have
noticed that some clients of mine have asked me questions
about what their I'm going to say the name of
(14:20):
one of them, just their chat GPT is telling them
because they've been using it as sort of like I
don't want to say, a journal necessarily, but they've been
using it a bit more like a therapist or a
social worker and getting feedback and ideas from AI. Now,
(14:41):
when it comes to that, AI is not a licensed professional,
so the ideas that come through, I mean, it could
be like talking to a trusted friend, right, but it's
not as valuable as going to a licensed professional. So
I'd be careful with where you're getting your advice from
truly with AI, because it's some clients have run into
(15:04):
big problems with that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, and I love using it to plan my trips
and for recipes, Like I'll walk around the grocery store
and be like, I have this at home, what's a
recipe I can make with it? And that's like where
it's so easy. But to your point, it could be
pulling from anywhere if I'm asking something more serious, whether
I'd be like a medical question or you know, having
(15:27):
to look up something related to I don't know where
i'd need like an actual factual source, So that would
be challenging for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah. And I know that some people have gotten in
trouble with AI creating books for them and plagiarism, So
you know, it's it's easy for us to say, oh
my gosh, look AI speaks for me so well, but
then you don't look at it and run it through
(15:56):
other things to make sure that it's not just completely
plagiarized somebody else's work.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's pretty intense, So everything needs to come with
you know, caution labels.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, and like we have training at work that we
can take to learn how to use AI too, So
it's like it is coming with a training for us,
but it isn't coming with a caution label like it should.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, I'm glad that they're doing trainings. I mean that's important,
you know, because when people do things willy nilly, and
also when there are aspects to AI where it's like
turn me into an action figure, you know, it's fun,
it's now it's a game, and now we trust it
because it made that picture pretty or whatever. We kind
(16:44):
of think it can do everything. But always so be careful,
just like you wouldn't ask a person on the street
their opinion of something. Don't necessarily go to an AI
source to get your answer without double triple checking.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, use your discretion. I guess is ultimately exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
It can't replace everything, and it also really isn't supposed
to replace thinking on your own and creating on your own.
People have gotten a little lazy, you know, in one instant,
and we don't use our brains the same way that
we used to. So the other thing that and I
(17:29):
know I'm speaking exactly for my mother now. She when
I was a kid, would always talk about how the
world wasn't coming from the same base of knowledge. So
like even just the books that she had to read
in school, the classics I didn't have to read in school,
and then we look now to what's being read in
(17:50):
school or what's being censored in school. So there isn't
the same base of knowledge that was here one hundred
or one hundred and fifty years ago. We've got AI
leading us in new directions, right, So some of the
new directions are good, but having a whole bunch of
humans who don't in the same base of knowledge is
(18:11):
a little risky.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah. And I think when it comes to like writing
like a book report or any sort of report, we're
just going to go back to paper and pencil, because
how can a teacher or a college professor like actually
prove that, you know, any student today has did their
own work, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And how many people can actually pull out a piece
of paper and a pencil or a pen and write.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That's also very true.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I know I got their hand cramping after like a minute,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's true. Yeah, And I like love I still write
like my work notes on on paper and pen and
sometimes if it's been a couple of days, I feel
like I have to like jog my freaking hand again
on like how to write it. It is really funny.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It is, it is, But you know what. That's okay.
These are the things that we've got ahead of us
now that we can work around. We just have to
be careful, you know. Like I think people can tell
when it's AI if if you write it yourself versus AI.
No matter how good AI gets, I still think that
people can tell if they trust and listen with their
(19:15):
hearts versus just their brains. I think they can tell
the difference. I don't know about you, but I think
they can.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I think it. Yeah, I don't know. I wrote actually
I had it write something at work for me this
week and it was so like uplifting and inspiring, and
my Coger's like, oh my god, Stephanie, this was so
nicely written. And I was like, it wasn't me, it
was our internal AI. I can't take any credit because
it was like the voice of it. It would never
come from like my voice in terms of writing. So
(19:45):
I think you're definitely right, Like you can get a
sense when it's AI written versus like coming from an
actual person based on the voice of the writing.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yep. So that's one more way that you can test
your intuition, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Really just plug into it, does it feel like the
person that you know wrote it, or does it feel
just a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I think the other thing too that's kind of scary
is that when you interact with it more, it kind
of learns you. And so I feel like sometimes I
take what they say with a grain of salt as well,
because I'm like, you're just telling me what I want
to know, because I've just trained you into submission this
AI system.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
So absolutely yes, yes, I mean, which can be good
or it can be really really bad, depending on what
you're training it to do.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Right, Yep, yep, exactly. All right, Well, I think my
kind of final question and then we'll do a card
pole theme for the month of August is really around
you know, what are some of the general themes that
your clients are asking you or you're seen with some
of the most recent readings that you've had.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Okay, so, over the last year and a half two years,
there's been a really big theme of clients getting frustrated
looking for love, and I would say looking for love
and all the wrong places that old song because what
they were doing with apps and online dating, especially during
(21:14):
the pandemic when people were contained and were scared, They're
not even finding that kind of payoff, right. So during
the pandemic, I had a lot of clients who were
finding short term relationships fun distractions. Now they're not even
finding that, so they're having to go out into the
(21:35):
real world and find new opportunities to connect with people.
So that's a really challenging thing because people are very
disappointed in the apps and the online dating and all
of a sudden, now they have to go back to basics.
You know, what do you mean, I need to go
to the corner bar or go to an art gallery
opening and actually talk to people, make eye contact, shake
(21:57):
a hand.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So that's one of the big trends. And the other
thing is that I'm finding that people are wanting to
change jobs and expand their careers. I mean, that's sort
of an a whole life thing, right, except that they
are finding that when they do that, they're only going
to one source to try and find the jobs. So
(22:23):
I have some people who exclusively just send their resumeated
people on LinkedIn, and they never try any other source,
and they get very limited in their thinking and very
depressed that nobody on LinkedIn is getting back to them.
I'm like, no, you have to expand your search, you have.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
To get creative, so basically done that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I know I exactly I wouldn't either, but that's those
are the people who are thinking this is my best
source because I'll chat with this person for a while,
then they'll like me, then they'll consider me for a job.
And I'm like, no, no, no, that's like dating. No,
we need to look for a job, good job, and
look for the dates the other way. So those are
the two main things. It's just people definitely having frustration
(23:06):
and having to change the style that they're using to
get jobs and also to connect with humans.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I feel like the connection thing, we're all so starved
for it post pandemic. But it's I think to a
certain degree we forgot how to you know, make small
talk and like connect with people. And I also think
that we all wear like our air pods or you know, headphones,
and you just miss out on those random interactions with
strangers when you're out and about. So I think that
(23:35):
is such a good point.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, definitely, and people have sort of forgotten how to
communicate with each other and it's an obstacle, like even
with the text, well what do I say and they'll
text high and then they'll get frustrated that the other
person doesn't text back right away. You know, it's like, no,
a real conversation. Pretend in your mind if you ran
(23:59):
into this person on the street, what would you say?
How would the conversation go? Okay, now write that in
your text field. So, yes, we're we're having to relearn things,
take some stuff back to basics. But it's okay, it's okay.
We as a society, you're learning how to connect again.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And if we don't, we'll just connect with AI exactly
our last resort. All right, Should we do a card poll?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Of course? Yeah, let's I'm gonna use my deck, the
Pandora's Box of cards. It's for a call deck that
I created a couple of years ago. Already, I can't
believe it's been a couple of years. And let's just
look at what's coming up. I'm going to pull a
card for August for the majority of us, because I
really like getting a little preview of what's coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, first second of the month. What do we got?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Well, so I guess the harmony be in tune with
others card on this card, and I'm going to figure
out how to put it on the screen. Somewhere is
an orchestra or a little chamber group playing together.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh I like that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
This is really this theme is about being in touch
with others. It's funny that we were just talking about
connecting with others, but also remembering that you're part of
a bigger picture, right, So we have this network that
we can connect with and keep expanding out, sort of
like having a ripple effect in the world. So you
(25:33):
need to harmonize. You need to align your energy with
others rather than being opposing or dissonant with them. So
stop the fighting. Pay attention in August, we're coming out
of mercury retrograde in a couple of Weekslly, I want
to stay in harmony with how you're communicating with others,
So leave your bad mood at home, pay attention to
(25:54):
how you're communicating, what you're communicating, and ultimately remember that
your energy goes out, you can create a bigger ripple.
You can create bigger energy and you will have more
people come to you in life, like you stuff at
the airport when you ran into your friend. Yeah, yeah,
it's because you bring that kind of energy and harmony.
(26:17):
So you're out there doing it. If I think if
we had one hundred more people doing it or a thousand.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Or I also just like laugh because it's just such
a perfect card for what our conversation was like exactly,
Oh my god, you're kidding me here, like hysterical.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yes, it's perfect, it's perfect. Well, I'm so glad that
we got to chat again and spill some psychic tea
and too. I hope we do it soon. I don't
want to want next time.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I've been drinking my piping hot green tea as well.
So yeah, until next time. We'll definitely do a third episode.
We'll see when we can get our stars aligned and
our schedules aligned to do it. But this was so fun.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Thank you, Yes, and thank you too, And make sure
to subscribe and leave a comment if you have some
questions for us to cover in the next podcast episode.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, I love to
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