January 23, 2025 • 27 mins
Today we're excited to introduce two amazing new cohosts to the podcast—Julia and Katelyn! Join us as we dive into their lives, from their hobbies to their experiences as newlyweds, and discover how they came to find Spearmint.
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All right, we're recording.
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Okay.
Hello.
Hello.
Welcome back to podcast number two with spill with spearmint.
So this is Alicia.
I was on the first podcast with Sherri and Carolyn.
And today we have two new guests from inside the warehouse, uh, office team.
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So do you guys want to introduce yourselves?
Sure.
Hello.
My name is Caitlin.
I am the brand slash product manager here at spearmintlove.
Um, and that what that entails is basically anything products related, um, goes through me.
So everything from buying the brands that you see on our site that aren't spearmint to
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product development and sourcing of our proprietary brands.
Um, you know, anything from ordering the product to getting it on the website usually goes through me.
Mm hmm.
All right, Yulia, your turn.
Okay.
So hi, I'm Yulia.
I have been here at spearmint for it's my five year work anniversary today, yesterday, maybe.
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I think it was the 21st because I just saw it online.
So yesterday, congratulations.
And surprisingly, I'm like one of the newest employees out of all of us.
Yeah.
Even though I've been here for five years, which is crazy.
That just shows how long everybody has been here.
Yeah.
Honestly.
Um, so yeah, I started in January of 2020 right before things got crazy.
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Oh yeah.
Um, and the funniest thing happened is I was here for like two weeks and it was like a very
intro level position.
I was just learning the brand, learning the products.
And all of a sudden John and Sherry pulled me into their office with Carolyn, which was
on the last podcast and they said, uh, Carolyn's leaving.
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Uh, will you take her job?
And I did.
I just, I had no idea what I was doing and I've been doing that job for five years now.
And then Carolyn came back eventually.
So we have everyone back together.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Cause she worked remotely a little bit.
And then yeah, that was so funny.
I remember like that happening at the time we're like, Oh my gosh, who's it going to be?
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I don't know why it was me.
You barely knew me.
No, you do a fantastic job.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
How did you guys find the brand?
I think I was looking on indeed.
Honestly, I was kind of, I didn't know what I was going to do with my life.
I was working as 22, I think years old when I started working here.
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So I was, uh, kind of in between jobs.
I was like working a part time job and I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do.
And there's not a lot of jobs like this, like working in e-commerce in Arizona.
And I stumbled across it on indeed.
And I was like, this actually seems like something I'd be interested in.
And I applied.
And yeah, that's how I found it.
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Now, I totally agree with the e-commerce in Arizona, especially as a clothing brand in Arizona.
There's not a lot of like fashion or clothing brands here.
And that is kind of how I found spearman.
I was fresh out of college.
Um, I had just come back from New York where I went to college.
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Um, and my degree was in buying and planning.
So I was definitely looking for something in that realm, but I didn't want to go to a major city like LA or stay in New York.
I grew up here.
So I wanted to stay here.
And it was like the perfect opportunity to find a clothing brand in Arizona because it's so rare.
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And I feel like now there's a little bit more.
Yeah.
At the time there really weren't that many.
No, and this was six years ago.
So, um, I've been here almost seven now.
Yeah.
So.
And fun fact, Caitlin and I actually went to high school together.
So that's how we know each other too.
But I didn't know that when I was applying for the job.
I just came in for the interview.
And I think I interviewed with John, I interviewed with Bill, and then I talked to you and I was like, I think we know each other.
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Yeah, we did like a little double take.
Yeah.
Wait a second.
That's funny.
It was really cool.
Yeah.
I found the brand on zip recruiter, I think, and I applied for the junior financial analyst position.
And I really didn't know that I wanted to work in like e-commerce.
I had no idea what I was going to do because I was a math major.
But like when I sat in the interview and John, our CFO interviewed me, I was like, oh my gosh, this sounds like great.
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Because it was like, you know, we were a little bit smaller at the time.
And, you know, it was like kind of getting in early to like just a growing cool company.
Yeah, that's how I was introduced to the brand.
And then I like followed us on Instagram.
And then I noticed that like some of my friends were already like following the brand.
So I was like, oh, this is, I guess a well-known brand because I didn't know because I don't have a baby year.
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I was also 21 when I started.
Yeah. Now I'm noticing now that more and more people I know are starting to follow us because we're I'm 27.
So at the time when I started, not not many of my friends had babies or anything,
but more and more people that I know are starting to follow us and know what spear my love is.
So that's really exciting.
And a lot of people are surprised when I tell them I work here and like really excited.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, speaking of our stages of life, you can tell that you're a little bit more excited.
But you guys are a little bit more excited about your stage of life.
You guys went through a stage of life last year.
What did you guys do?
We both got married.
Like in October.
Two weeks of each other in October.
So we are newlyweds.
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Yeah.
We have a lot of similarities.
Honestly, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Same age, got married at the same time.
Both have two little dogs.
We are little dog moms.
Yeah.
Yes.
My favorite question.
I met my husband in this warehouse, not this warehouse, but back at our old warehouse in Scottsdale.
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You may know from Sherry talking about him on stories, but yes.
So I met Bill, you know, working in the warehouse.
Yeah.
He was, we all worked really closely together.
We are especially like the people pulling orders and whatnot.
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So, you know, we became friends, I would say, for many, many months before we started dating.
But definitely we are the office romance.
And thank God it was successful.
Yeah, good thing it worked out.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, very cute.
And where did you meet your husband, Yulia?
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High school.
Which can either be really sweet and cute or a little bit cringy, depending on how you view it.
But yeah, we met in high school, went to college, both at U of A, and then both now are in Phoenix.
So it's been a long, long ride.
But yeah, we're all from a little small, small part of Arizona, Awa Tuky.
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Yes.
Anyone knows.
So yeah.
Yeah, it's a very cute story.
Okay, well, I wanted to talk about what like social medias that we use, because I feel like we're all pretty like internet savvy.
We've been filming a lot of like content this week, as you know, because we're filming this podcast.
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But I am a TikTok girl.
That's my favorite.
I'm on all the social medias like Reddit, Facebook.
I mean, I use X a little bit even.
I use all of them, but TikTok is my favorite.
What about you guys?
I never got into TikTok.
Really?
I know.
I know.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to be better now, but I don't know.
I just, I just, I feel like, I feel like like a grandma on TikTok.
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Like I just, I don't know what to do.
What's crazy though is that you are not super into TikTok, but your dog is famous.
My dog has a bit of a following mostly on Instagram, which is I love Instagram.
Okay.
That is my like Comfort app.
Okay.
And I love reels no matter what anyone says.
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Yes.
Well, it's probably because you're on Instagram more.
So you're getting, you're getting all the good stuff.
Yeah.
I'm on TikTok.
Like that's the free page is like perfect for me.
Yeah.
When I go on reels, I have no idea what's going on.
I'm getting, I'm getting into TikTok.
I'm, I'm trying to make it like know me more and I'm trying to scroll more.
But like it gets to know you really fast.
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It does.
It does.
It's doing, it's doing a good job, but I still feel like Instagram's my place.
Yeah.
Well, that was probably when the whole TikTok fan thing happened.
You weren't freaking out.
I was not.
I was not upset.
I was freaking out.
Same.
I like didn't know what to do with myself.
I kept accidentally opening the app like everyone else.
Yeah.
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Is anyone else still on Facebook?
I look on there occasionally and see who's pregnant, who's engaged, she's married.
That's it.
I actually really like Facebook for the groups.
Yes.
Yeah.
I, I scroll Facebook a lot.
It's, I mean, I just go through, I feel like I go through all the apps throughout my day,
but I do like Facebook.
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Yeah.
I don't, I don't hate it.
I feel like a lot of people like hate it.
Once I join the groups, like for every specific thing, like the area that I live,
the hobbies that I do, I do like that one, the area where you live.
It's really interesting to hear the drama.
Yes.
The local community drama.
I also like the random groups that it shows me.
Like I will like dive into like backyard chicken owners groups.
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And I'm like, I have no interest in being like a chicken owner in my backyard,
but I like, I'll get into the like those weird suggested groups.
I was like, this is entertaining.
I must not scroll enough because I don't even see that.
Like I feel like I scroll and I see like random posts or just people I know from high school.
Like I don't see anything else that interests me.
I get so many suggested groups.
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Same.
Like I mean, there's sourdough group and I'm not even a part of any of these, but yeah,
I wish it showed me that they pop up and then like now I'm like invested in them.
I'm still not a part of the groups, but okay.
You check in.
I check in.
Yes, I like the private ones more because they there's a little bit of like drama.
And some of them.
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So I always stay.
I never like obviously participate or anything, but I got to join more private groups.
Yeah.
Join some private ones.
Even like political ones or like, I don't know, a smaller like area.
Like I'm sure the local areas, those ones are all private, I guess.
Yeah, you guys are in those.
Yes.
And then like I'm in some Jeep groups and forerunner groups, like just all the hobbies.
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See, I feel like I see that kind of stuff on Tiktok.
Like you said, sourdough group.
I just see the sourdough people on Tiktok that I follow.
That's true.
They really dive into it on Facebook.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can see like other people's experiences.
Mm-hmm.
It's almost like Reddit in a way.
It is.
I do actually like Reddit.
Yeah.
I feel like it has any question I ever have.
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There's an answer on there.
Yeah.
Yeah, that is nice for that feature.
What kind of influencers do you guys follow?
Oh, gosh, I follow so many.
Really?
I do.
Like too many to name, but I'm like in my like home DIY era.
I would say.
I love like the home, the girls who are just out there
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wielding power tools and renovating their own homes.
Yeah.
Which I mean, I know you are too, right?
Oh my gosh, yes.
Because I got a house last year.
Yeah.
So actually, I don't think I brought this up to you before,
but you built a bar in your house.
I'm going to do the same in mine.
I did.
Yes.
I've done a few projects.
I built a bar.
I built a built-in window bench.
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Ooh.
Two with like a cushion, everything super cute.
OK.
But I love like following those people,
because then you can see like it's really easy to do.
You know, it seems like daunting to like get a power saw
and like cut a piece of wood.
But like these people make it seem like, oh, I can do that.
That's easy.
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Oh, I can slap some paint on it or whatever.
I love that.
See, I can't do that.
I don't have a house yet.
So I can I like to watch those kind of videos.
I can't do anything about it.
You can just bookmark them first.
Yeah.
For later.
Well, that's why I was freaking out about TikTok
getting banned, because I have so many things
bookmarked for the future.
Oh, that's true.
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Home renovations.
I love that.
Baby stuff.
I don't have a baby, but I have baby stuff bookmarked.
And I was going to lose it all.
Yeah.
I do love the.
I love recipes on TikTok.
Like if I can't figure something out,
I'll just go to TikTok to find like a recipe or like a drink
recipe or.
Yeah, same.
And realistically, I've never looked back
at my favorites to make something,
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but I was really sad about potentially losing all that.
It's like comforting to know that it's there.
Yeah.
Just in case.
Yeah.
I made homemade noodles the other day from a TikTok recipe.
Not that that's that intricate of a recipe,
but it just gave me inspiration that I can make a one serving
size noodles.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
So I got a pasta maker for Christmas.
It's like the one where you just literally throw the ingredients
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in and it does all the work for you.
Really?
But the pamphlet that came with it was so vague.
I literally went to TikTok to figure out how to use it.
Oh, OK.
And sure enough, there was like 100 videos of people saying,
this is how you use it.
Love it.
That's great.
I was going to say an influencer that I love to follow.
I don't know if anyone knows who this is.
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Her name is Tess Madeline.
Tess Madeline.
Anyone follow her?
Uh-uh.
She's from Canada.
She has a baby, but she like makes all this really
ascetic content of her just like baking.
And like her home is so cute and I want to be her.
Like she has the cutest haircut.
That's why I said I wanted to cut my hair into a bob.
Because I'm like, I love this girl.
She's inspiring me.
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But everyone needs to go follow her.
That's cool.
She'll have to check it out.
Toronto.
OK.
But she's mostly on TikTok.
And that's I was so scared of losing her because she doesn't
post the same kind of content on Instagram.
So I was like, where am I going to see this?
But she's back.
Yeah.
That's nice.
I follow a lot of funny people I feel like.
Like I like Kirby Johnson.
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Even though it's not like comedy content.
But I think she just has a funny personality.
So I think she's cute.
I like Brooklyn and Bailey.
Oh yeah.
They're great.
I'm wearing the same set that she's going to wear.
I saw in her stories our Valentine's Lounge set
with the bear on it.
So maybe we'll be twinsies when she wears hers.
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So that's cute.
I also follow like Alona Maher.
Do you guys know her?
The rugby from the Olympics?
Yeah.
Yes.
I love that one.
She was on Dancing with the Stars.
Yeah, I watched her on there.
She was good, right?
She made it pretty far.
She got second place.
Second place.
OK.
Spoiler.
She's got a fun personality.
Yeah.
That was last season, right?
I'm sure everyone watched it by now if they were going to watch it.
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Yeah.
Spoiler alert.
She got second place.
Yeah.
And then the other Olympian, Steven, I don't know how
to say his last name.
Did he win?
No.
Yeah.
Did he win?
He got fifth place, I think.
Oh.
Wow.
Yeah.
Who won?
The bachelor guy.
Oh, he was really good.
He really was, surprisingly.
I didn't even watch it, but I know.
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I didn't watch the whole season either.
I just saw clips of it.
I was so invested the whole entire season,
following every single person, watching
every single piece of content.
I usually am, but I just didn't tune into that first episode.
So I fell off.
Yeah.
I never.
I got the highlights from my rails on Instagram.
Yeah.
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Mine was from TikTok.
Yeah.
You can pretty much get the whole summary
if you just follow some of the people on TikTok.
You can know what happened the whole season.
But I had to get every piece of content
and then watch it live and stuff, even though it was like two
hours.
It was so long.
Yeah.
But it was so engaging.
I think a new season of the bachelor is starting.
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I don't know if either of you followed the last few.
I haven't.
I don't think I followed the last bachelor yet.
But before that.
I never watched that.
Oh, really?
Not interesting.
I might try to watch it because it kind of sucks when you stop.
Yeah.
You never want to get back into it because you don't know
anybody.
Yeah.
But I need to just watch the season.
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Yeah.
Then you don't know all the like paradise people and stuff.
Yeah.
And then when people talk about it online, I want to know.
I see that too.
And I'm like, I don't.
I'm reading all the things.
And I'm like, I have no idea what they're talking about.
I want to be in the loop.
I should watch it.
I should watch it.
I love a good trashy reality television drama.
Yeah.
I need to get back into it.
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I watched like just a few seasons.
I thought the golden bachelor was actually kind of cute.
Or a bachelor.
I watched the first.
Yeah.
The golden bachelor.
Yeah.
It was cute.
It was cute.
They're done.
I know.
It was like.
What a scandal.
Yeah.
Wait, what happened with the golden bachelorette recently?
I feel like something happened.
I didn't.
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I didn't watch it.
I didn't watch it.
OK.
They lost me.
Yeah.
Didn't they end up together?
I think so.
Or was it a drama?
I think they ended up together.
But I have no idea.
I'm sure there was drama.
Everybody creates drama online.
Joan, right?
Yeah, Joan.
Yeah.
Well, I loved her.
I just I didn't watch her season.
We got to watch more TV, you guys.
Yeah, I don't.
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I like I get home now.
I'm into coloring lately.
Really?
That's what I'm addicted to.
Adult coloring books?
Yep.
Yep, I bought a way too expensive marker set.
Really?
And I've been coloring and I can I can bring them in.
We can all try them out.
It's so fun.
Is it relaxing?
Yeah.
Or is it like stressful?
I feel like I would be stressed out.
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It can be stressful because the marker pack I got
has like 300 something markers.
Oh my goodness.
So sometimes it's like when you're
trying to decide what color to make something,
it's stressful.
But no, overall, it's fun.
And that's like a new hobby.
I'm trying to get everyone into.
I've been seeing the TikToks of people like doing it.
That's what got me.
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Actually, that's what got my friend.
And then my friend put me on it.
Yeah.
I don't think I could sit down in color like uninterrupted.
I didn't think so either.
But I like, well, my dog would probably attack me.
So high high energy that like I can't sit down without like
a toy coming into my face or something.
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Mine's kind of the same.
But that's funny.
I need a dog.
I want to get a Dalmatian.
You've been thinking about it for,
I don't even know how long.
Forever.
But I don't know.
I'm just not home enough.
But it's a commitment.
It's a big commitment.
But it's also the best thing ever.
Yes.
I will one day.
My dog is my child.
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Yeah.
That's what I have for now.
Our single, single, only child.
My dog for sure has only child syndrome.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to get a dog because the thing that I've been into
recently has been running.
So a Dalmatian would be very good for that.
Very high energy.
And I need a dog that can go running with me.
So I can't have a small dog because I want them to be able
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to like keep up.
My dog likes to run.
Really?
Mine would too.
If I ran, she would run.
Really?
I cannot.
For miles, you think they could go for miles?
Maybe.
Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that.
Like I wouldn't doubt it.
OK.
Yeah.
I have an Alaskan Klikai.
She's looks just like a husky, but she's 12 pounds.
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Yeah.
Same amount of energy.
Same amount of energy as a husky.
Like she would run for miles.
And I am a little sad for her that I don't like to run.
But oh well.
I wish she has a backyard to like run around in.
Yes.
By herself.
Yes.
Yeah.
So in my running journey, I've been getting so many
TikToks of people running.
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And it's so inspiring because these people like are running
marathons and stuff.
So I'm really trying to like keep up with that.
But I've barely gotten into it.
So my first race was this last Saturday and I ran a 5K.
Wow.
That is super impressive.
Impressive.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I could never.
I wish.
I also see those TikToks, but I can maybe run for like 30 seconds.
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I wish.
I wish I could love running.
Like I feel like that would be a great outlet.
Once you like get into like the first like, I don't know,
maybe month, it's so, it's such a mind game.
Like you just want to stop, you want to give up.
And like getting through that after the first like month,
now I feel like I can run and it like feels good,
even though it like hurts.
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Yeah.
That's like the hardest thing because I've tried like every
winter, I feel like I try, you know, and it's like the hardest
to get over that first few weeks.
Yeah.
And then to continue to do it is also so hard.
Like especially once it gets hot here in Arizona,
it's impossible.
I don't really like going and running on a treadmill.
I don't know if that's what you do.
A treadmill is hard.
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I have mostly been running on a treadmill just because I do it
at night and I don't want to run at night by myself.
Yeah.
It could be a little scary.
Yeah.
But I can still, like it's easier to entertain myself on a
treadmill so I can like sit there and watch something.
Scroll.
Yeah.
Or scroll.
And then so I'm going to train this year.
I'm going to train for a half marathon.
Wow.
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I think I can do it.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I feel like you got prepared for this one so quickly.
Like I don't know how long you were training for,
but I feel like you could, if you have more time,
you can definitely do a half marathon easily.
I think so because I was a runner in high school,
so I at least have like a little bit of it still in me.
So I was able to get into it, you know,
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in the first like two months, I was able to do the 5K.
So I think with a few more months of training,
maybe like a few more weeks of training, I can do a 10K
and then a couple of few more months
than I can do a half marathon.
I just need to find a good one when the weather is nice.
Yeah, I believe in you.
Thank you.
Yeah, you'll have to keep us updated.
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Yeah.
I only did the color run.
Oh, I forgot about the color run.
I did it a couple of times.
That's cool.
That was when I was much younger and more fit.
I walk.
I walk every day.
Oh, that's so good for you.
Yeah.
Every single day.
Hot girl walk.
Hot girl, hot dog mom walk.
Yep.
Because if I don't, I get yelled at by my dog.
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She keeps you accountable.
She really does.
Yeah, I can't not walk.
So every day I'm up early.
How many steps do you get a day?
That's a good question.
Not enough.
Like you would think I would get more than I do, but I walk
and then I come to the office and I sit all day.
Yeah.
I got to start getting up and walking around
or working while standing.
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Yeah.
It's actually hard to reach that 10,000 steps they work
unless you're doing something like running.
Even when I ran the 5K, I didn't reach 10,000 steps.
Interesting.
You have to go to a concert.
Yeah.
A little like an amusement park.
Yeah, amusement park, Disneyland.
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Yeah, for sure.
Now I probably get less than 5,000 steps a day.
Really?
Probably.
Yeah, same.
Or maybe 5,000.
Same unless I run that day because we just sit on our butts
all day at work.
Except we're filming content so often.
Yeah, we're walking around.
A lot more steps.
But yeah, what did you guys think of the podcast
that we did a couple days ago?
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Did you guys listen?
Yeah, I did.
I listened live.
You too, yes.
Live studio audience.
And I listened on Spotify as well to give us a listen.
But it was really good for our first podcast.
Amazing.
I loved it.
I was here.
You guys are great, yeah.
But yeah, have you guys been on a health journey
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like Sherry was talking about?
I would say, yeah, a little bit.
I kind of have been doing the same things she's doing.
Like I use the same cleaning stuff as her.
Same with the plastic containers.
I haven't been using those for a long time.
I think what actually started me off on this whole thing
was getting a dog.
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As sad as that is, is like I thought about somebody else.
I was like, I don't want to hurt my dog.
And I want to poison her.
So I think it started with candles.
Maybe.
Oh, true.
They're really toxic.
Yeah.
So it set me down this spiral of, oh my gosh,
everything is bad for me.
Basically, what's happening to Sherry right now.
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Yeah.
Like that happens to everyone.
And then you want to replace everything immediately,
which you can do it slowly.
That's OK.
Yeah.
You don't have to do everything at once.
Right now, my new fixation is like getting
nice, good quality clothes, organic cotton, wool, all that.
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Like that's my plan going forward.
As I'm not going to.
Less fast fashion.
Yeah.
Less fast fashion, better materials, things that
will last me.
Interesting.
But you can get pricey.
Yeah.
But they're investment pieces, right?
Exactly.
I'm going to try to do it slowly.
I'm probably the worst offender for this.
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I have not changed anything in my life recently.
Not really.
I've always used the glass containers.
I don't like microwaving plastic because that freaks me out.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Recently, I've been trying to just make, like, homemade some
stuff more.
Like, I got a pasta maker, so I'm doing homemade pasta.
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It's two ingredients.
I feel like it's healthier for me.
Yeah.
Last weekend, I made homemade cheez-its.
Ooh, really?
Which is really random because I saw that on TikTok.
Yeah.
If you look at, like, there's, like, 100 ingredients in
cheez-its.
Really?
And I love them.
But I was like, this cannot be good for you.
And I made those four ingredients.
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Really?
Were they just as good?
They were good.
I needed to make them a little thinner.
They were really thick, but they were delicious.
And even Bill said they were, he doesn't even like cheez-its
and he loved these.
Oh, OK.
It was really interesting.
They're, they were good.
But I feel like that's the path I'm taking more of, less of,
like, the home products and whatnot.
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No, I feel like that's also really important while we eat.
I do need to get better about that because I order out a lot.
Order in?
A lot.
But yeah, you need to send me that cheez-it recipe.
I saw Nara Smith made that.
I really, I was like, I feel like I'm Nara Smith right now.
Yes.
I was like rolling out the cheez-it dough and I'm like,
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what am I doing?
Like, I had, I had seen her do like goldfish a long time ago
on TikTok and I was like, she's crazy.
Maybe that's what it was.
Maybe it was like she's like, you know, my kids wanted goldfish.
So I just decided to make it.
Yeah.
That's kind of, that's kind of like that girl I fall on TikTok.
Tess, she like makes everything from scratch.
I'm like, that's who I want to be.
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Yeah, it's hard though.
I love that.
Yeah.
It's, it's fun though.
Like, I'm going to do something.
I don't know what I'm going to make something this week
and so nice.
Stay tuned.
I love it.
Well, that was a great podcast.
That was, I didn't expect to talk someone.
You guys are a great host.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So are you.
Thank you for coming on.
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Thank you for having us.
And thank you everybody for listening.
See you next time.
Bye.
Bye.
All right, we're recording.
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Okay.
Hello.
Hello.
Welcome back to podcast number two with spill with spearmint.
So this is Alicia.
I was on the first podcast with Sherri and Carolyn.
And today we have two new guests from inside the warehouse, uh, office team.
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So do you guys want to introduce yourselves?
Sure.
Hello.
My name is Caitlin.
I am the brand slash product manager here at spearmintlove.
Um, and that what that entails is basically anything products related, um, goes through me.
So everything from buying the brands that you see on our site that aren't spearmint to
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product development and sourcing of our proprietary brands.
Um, you know, anything from ordering the product to getting it on the website usually goes through me.
Mm hmm.
All right, Yulia, your turn.
Okay.
So hi, I'm Yulia.
I have been here at spearmint for it's my five year work anniversary today, yesterday, maybe.
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I think it was the 21st because I just saw it online.
So yesterday, congratulations.
And surprisingly, I'm like one of the newest employees out of all of us.
Yeah.
Even though I've been here for five years, which is crazy.
That just shows how long everybody has been here.
Yeah.
Honestly.
Um, so yeah, I started in January of 2020 right before things got crazy.
(01:33):
Oh yeah.
Um, and the funniest thing happened is I was here for like two weeks and it was like a very
intro level position.
I was just learning the brand, learning the products.
And all of a sudden John and Sherry pulled me into their office with Carolyn, which was
on the last podcast and they said, uh, Carolyn's leaving.
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Uh, will you take her job?
And I did.
I just, I had no idea what I was doing and I've been doing that job for five years now.
And then Carolyn came back eventually.
So we have everyone back together.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Cause she worked remotely a little bit.
And then yeah, that was so funny.
I remember like that happening at the time we're like, Oh my gosh, who's it going to be?
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I don't know why it was me.
You barely knew me.
No, you do a fantastic job.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
How did you guys find the brand?
I think I was looking on indeed.
Honestly, I was kind of, I didn't know what I was going to do with my life.
I was working as 22, I think years old when I started working here.
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So I was, uh, kind of in between jobs.
I was like working a part time job and I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do.
And there's not a lot of jobs like this, like working in e-commerce in Arizona.
And I stumbled across it on indeed.
And I was like, this actually seems like something I'd be interested in.
And I applied.
And yeah, that's how I found it.
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Now, I totally agree with the e-commerce in Arizona, especially as a clothing brand in Arizona.
There's not a lot of like fashion or clothing brands here.
And that is kind of how I found spearman.
I was fresh out of college.
Um, I had just come back from New York where I went to college.
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Um, and my degree was in buying and planning.
So I was definitely looking for something in that realm, but I didn't want to go to a major city like LA or stay in New York.
I grew up here.
So I wanted to stay here.
And it was like the perfect opportunity to find a clothing brand in Arizona because it's so rare.
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And I feel like now there's a little bit more.
Yeah.
At the time there really weren't that many.
No, and this was six years ago.
So, um, I've been here almost seven now.
Yeah.
So.
And fun fact, Caitlin and I actually went to high school together.
So that's how we know each other too.
But I didn't know that when I was applying for the job.
I just came in for the interview.
And I think I interviewed with John, I interviewed with Bill, and then I talked to you and I was like, I think we know each other.
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Yeah, we did like a little double take.
Yeah.
Wait a second.
That's funny.
It was really cool.
Yeah.
I found the brand on zip recruiter, I think, and I applied for the junior financial analyst position.
And I really didn't know that I wanted to work in like e-commerce.
I had no idea what I was going to do because I was a math major.
But like when I sat in the interview and John, our CFO interviewed me, I was like, oh my gosh, this sounds like great.
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Because it was like, you know, we were a little bit smaller at the time.
And, you know, it was like kind of getting in early to like just a growing cool company.
Yeah, that's how I was introduced to the brand.
And then I like followed us on Instagram.
And then I noticed that like some of my friends were already like following the brand.
So I was like, oh, this is, I guess a well-known brand because I didn't know because I don't have a baby year.
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I was also 21 when I started.
Yeah. Now I'm noticing now that more and more people I know are starting to follow us because we're I'm 27.
So at the time when I started, not not many of my friends had babies or anything,
but more and more people that I know are starting to follow us and know what spear my love is.
So that's really exciting.
And a lot of people are surprised when I tell them I work here and like really excited.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, speaking of our stages of life, you can tell that you're a little bit more excited.
But you guys are a little bit more excited about your stage of life.
You guys went through a stage of life last year.
What did you guys do?
We both got married.
Like in October.
Two weeks of each other in October.
So we are newlyweds.
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Yeah.
We have a lot of similarities.
Honestly, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Same age, got married at the same time.
Both have two little dogs.
We are little dog moms.
Yeah.
Yes.
My favorite question.
I met my husband in this warehouse, not this warehouse, but back at our old warehouse in Scottsdale.
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You may know from Sherry talking about him on stories, but yes.
So I met Bill, you know, working in the warehouse.
Yeah.
He was, we all worked really closely together.
We are especially like the people pulling orders and whatnot.
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So, you know, we became friends, I would say, for many, many months before we started dating.
But definitely we are the office romance.
And thank God it was successful.
Yeah, good thing it worked out.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, very cute.
And where did you meet your husband, Yulia?
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High school.
Which can either be really sweet and cute or a little bit cringy, depending on how you view it.
But yeah, we met in high school, went to college, both at U of A, and then both now are in Phoenix.
So it's been a long, long ride.
But yeah, we're all from a little small, small part of Arizona, Awa Tuky.
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Yes.
Anyone knows.
So yeah.
Yeah, it's a very cute story.
Okay, well, I wanted to talk about what like social medias that we use, because I feel like we're all pretty like internet savvy.
We've been filming a lot of like content this week, as you know, because we're filming this podcast.
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But I am a TikTok girl.
That's my favorite.
I'm on all the social medias like Reddit, Facebook.
I mean, I use X a little bit even.
I use all of them, but TikTok is my favorite.
What about you guys?
I never got into TikTok.
Really?
I know.
I know.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to be better now, but I don't know.
I just, I just, I feel like, I feel like like a grandma on TikTok.
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Like I just, I don't know what to do.
What's crazy though is that you are not super into TikTok, but your dog is famous.
My dog has a bit of a following mostly on Instagram, which is I love Instagram.
Okay.
That is my like Comfort app.
Okay.
And I love reels no matter what anyone says.
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Yes.
Well, it's probably because you're on Instagram more.
So you're getting, you're getting all the good stuff.
Yeah.
I'm on TikTok.
Like that's the free page is like perfect for me.
Yeah.
When I go on reels, I have no idea what's going on.
I'm getting, I'm getting into TikTok.
I'm, I'm trying to make it like know me more and I'm trying to scroll more.
But like it gets to know you really fast.
(08:39):
It does.
It does.
It's doing, it's doing a good job, but I still feel like Instagram's my place.
Yeah.
Well, that was probably when the whole TikTok fan thing happened.
You weren't freaking out.
I was not.
I was not upset.
I was freaking out.
Same.
I like didn't know what to do with myself.
I kept accidentally opening the app like everyone else.
Yeah.
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Is anyone else still on Facebook?
I look on there occasionally and see who's pregnant, who's engaged, she's married.
That's it.
I actually really like Facebook for the groups.
Yes.
Yeah.
I, I scroll Facebook a lot.
It's, I mean, I just go through, I feel like I go through all the apps throughout my day,
but I do like Facebook.
(09:20):
Yeah.
I don't, I don't hate it.
I feel like a lot of people like hate it.
Once I join the groups, like for every specific thing, like the area that I live,
the hobbies that I do, I do like that one, the area where you live.
It's really interesting to hear the drama.
Yes.
The local community drama.
I also like the random groups that it shows me.
Like I will like dive into like backyard chicken owners groups.
(09:44):
And I'm like, I have no interest in being like a chicken owner in my backyard,
but I like, I'll get into the like those weird suggested groups.
I was like, this is entertaining.
I must not scroll enough because I don't even see that.
Like I feel like I scroll and I see like random posts or just people I know from high school.
Like I don't see anything else that interests me.
I get so many suggested groups.
(10:06):
Same.
Like I mean, there's sourdough group and I'm not even a part of any of these, but yeah,
I wish it showed me that they pop up and then like now I'm like invested in them.
I'm still not a part of the groups, but okay.
You check in.
I check in.
Yes, I like the private ones more because they there's a little bit of like drama.
And some of them.
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So I always stay.
I never like obviously participate or anything, but I got to join more private groups.
Yeah.
Join some private ones.
Even like political ones or like, I don't know, a smaller like area.
Like I'm sure the local areas, those ones are all private, I guess.
Yeah, you guys are in those.
Yes.
And then like I'm in some Jeep groups and forerunner groups, like just all the hobbies.
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See, I feel like I see that kind of stuff on Tiktok.
Like you said, sourdough group.
I just see the sourdough people on Tiktok that I follow.
That's true.
They really dive into it on Facebook.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can see like other people's experiences.
Mm-hmm.
It's almost like Reddit in a way.
It is.
I do actually like Reddit.
Yeah.
I feel like it has any question I ever have.
(11:11):
There's an answer on there.
Yeah.
Yeah, that is nice for that feature.
What kind of influencers do you guys follow?
Oh, gosh, I follow so many.
Really?
I do.
Like too many to name, but I'm like in my like home DIY era.
I would say.
I love like the home, the girls who are just out there
(11:35):
wielding power tools and renovating their own homes.
Yeah.
Which I mean, I know you are too, right?
Oh my gosh, yes.
Because I got a house last year.
Yeah.
So actually, I don't think I brought this up to you before,
but you built a bar in your house.
I'm going to do the same in mine.
I did.
Yes.
I've done a few projects.
I built a bar.
I built a built-in window bench.
(11:56):
Ooh.
Two with like a cushion, everything super cute.
OK.
But I love like following those people,
because then you can see like it's really easy to do.
You know, it seems like daunting to like get a power saw
and like cut a piece of wood.
But like these people make it seem like, oh, I can do that.
That's easy.
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Oh, I can slap some paint on it or whatever.
I love that.
See, I can't do that.
I don't have a house yet.
So I can I like to watch those kind of videos.
I can't do anything about it.
You can just bookmark them first.
Yeah.
For later.
Well, that's why I was freaking out about TikTok
getting banned, because I have so many things
bookmarked for the future.
Oh, that's true.
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Home renovations.
I love that.
Baby stuff.
I don't have a baby, but I have baby stuff bookmarked.
And I was going to lose it all.
Yeah.
I do love the.
I love recipes on TikTok.
Like if I can't figure something out,
I'll just go to TikTok to find like a recipe or like a drink
recipe or.
Yeah, same.
And realistically, I've never looked back
at my favorites to make something,
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but I was really sad about potentially losing all that.
It's like comforting to know that it's there.
Yeah.
Just in case.
Yeah.
I made homemade noodles the other day from a TikTok recipe.
Not that that's that intricate of a recipe,
but it just gave me inspiration that I can make a one serving
size noodles.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
So I got a pasta maker for Christmas.
It's like the one where you just literally throw the ingredients
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in and it does all the work for you.
Really?
But the pamphlet that came with it was so vague.
I literally went to TikTok to figure out how to use it.
Oh, OK.
And sure enough, there was like 100 videos of people saying,
this is how you use it.
Love it.
That's great.
I was going to say an influencer that I love to follow.
I don't know if anyone knows who this is.
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Her name is Tess Madeline.
Tess Madeline.
Anyone follow her?
Uh-uh.
She's from Canada.
She has a baby, but she like makes all this really
ascetic content of her just like baking.
And like her home is so cute and I want to be her.
Like she has the cutest haircut.
That's why I said I wanted to cut my hair into a bob.
Because I'm like, I love this girl.
She's inspiring me.
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But everyone needs to go follow her.
That's cool.
She'll have to check it out.
Toronto.
OK.
But she's mostly on TikTok.
And that's I was so scared of losing her because she doesn't
post the same kind of content on Instagram.
So I was like, where am I going to see this?
But she's back.
Yeah.
That's nice.
I follow a lot of funny people I feel like.
Like I like Kirby Johnson.
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Even though it's not like comedy content.
But I think she just has a funny personality.
So I think she's cute.
I like Brooklyn and Bailey.
Oh yeah.
They're great.
I'm wearing the same set that she's going to wear.
I saw in her stories our Valentine's Lounge set
with the bear on it.
So maybe we'll be twinsies when she wears hers.
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So that's cute.
I also follow like Alona Maher.
Do you guys know her?
The rugby from the Olympics?
Yeah.
Yes.
I love that one.
She was on Dancing with the Stars.
Yeah, I watched her on there.
She was good, right?
She made it pretty far.
She got second place.
Second place.
OK.
Spoiler.
She's got a fun personality.
Yeah.
That was last season, right?
I'm sure everyone watched it by now if they were going to watch it.
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Yeah.
Spoiler alert.
She got second place.
Yeah.
And then the other Olympian, Steven, I don't know how
to say his last name.
Did he win?
No.
Yeah.
Did he win?
He got fifth place, I think.
Oh.
Wow.
Yeah.
Who won?
The bachelor guy.
Oh, he was really good.
He really was, surprisingly.
I didn't even watch it, but I know.
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I didn't watch the whole season either.
I just saw clips of it.
I was so invested the whole entire season,
following every single person, watching
every single piece of content.
I usually am, but I just didn't tune into that first episode.
So I fell off.
Yeah.
I never.
I got the highlights from my rails on Instagram.
Yeah.
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Mine was from TikTok.
Yeah.
You can pretty much get the whole summary
if you just follow some of the people on TikTok.
You can know what happened the whole season.
But I had to get every piece of content
and then watch it live and stuff, even though it was like two
hours.
It was so long.
Yeah.
But it was so engaging.
I think a new season of the bachelor is starting.
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I don't know if either of you followed the last few.
I haven't.
I don't think I followed the last bachelor yet.
But before that.
I never watched that.
Oh, really?
Not interesting.
I might try to watch it because it kind of sucks when you stop.
Yeah.
You never want to get back into it because you don't know
anybody.
Yeah.
But I need to just watch the season.
(16:33):
Yeah.
Then you don't know all the like paradise people and stuff.
Yeah.
And then when people talk about it online, I want to know.
I see that too.
And I'm like, I don't.
I'm reading all the things.
And I'm like, I have no idea what they're talking about.
I want to be in the loop.
I should watch it.
I should watch it.
I love a good trashy reality television drama.
Yeah.
I need to get back into it.
(16:54):
I watched like just a few seasons.
I thought the golden bachelor was actually kind of cute.
Or a bachelor.
I watched the first.
Yeah.
The golden bachelor.
Yeah.
It was cute.
It was cute.
They're done.
I know.
It was like.
What a scandal.
Yeah.
Wait, what happened with the golden bachelorette recently?
I feel like something happened.
I didn't.
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I didn't watch it.
I didn't watch it.
OK.
They lost me.
Yeah.
Didn't they end up together?
I think so.
Or was it a drama?
I think they ended up together.
But I have no idea.
I'm sure there was drama.
Everybody creates drama online.
Joan, right?
Yeah, Joan.
Yeah.
Well, I loved her.
I just I didn't watch her season.
We got to watch more TV, you guys.
Yeah, I don't.
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I like I get home now.
I'm into coloring lately.
Really?
That's what I'm addicted to.
Adult coloring books?
Yep.
Yep, I bought a way too expensive marker set.
Really?
And I've been coloring and I can I can bring them in.
We can all try them out.
It's so fun.
Is it relaxing?
Yeah.
Or is it like stressful?
I feel like I would be stressed out.
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It can be stressful because the marker pack I got
has like 300 something markers.
Oh my goodness.
So sometimes it's like when you're
trying to decide what color to make something,
it's stressful.
But no, overall, it's fun.
And that's like a new hobby.
I'm trying to get everyone into.
I've been seeing the TikToks of people like doing it.
That's what got me.
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Actually, that's what got my friend.
And then my friend put me on it.
Yeah.
I don't think I could sit down in color like uninterrupted.
I didn't think so either.
But I like, well, my dog would probably attack me.
So high high energy that like I can't sit down without like
a toy coming into my face or something.
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Mine's kind of the same.
But that's funny.
I need a dog.
I want to get a Dalmatian.
You've been thinking about it for,
I don't even know how long.
Forever.
But I don't know.
I'm just not home enough.
But it's a commitment.
It's a big commitment.
But it's also the best thing ever.
Yes.
I will one day.
My dog is my child.
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Yeah.
That's what I have for now.
Our single, single, only child.
My dog for sure has only child syndrome.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to get a dog because the thing that I've been into
recently has been running.
So a Dalmatian would be very good for that.
Very high energy.
And I need a dog that can go running with me.
So I can't have a small dog because I want them to be able
(19:19):
to like keep up.
My dog likes to run.
Really?
Mine would too.
If I ran, she would run.
Really?
I cannot.
For miles, you think they could go for miles?
Maybe.
Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that.
Like I wouldn't doubt it.
OK.
Yeah.
I have an Alaskan Klikai.
She's looks just like a husky, but she's 12 pounds.
(19:40):
Yeah.
Same amount of energy.
Same amount of energy as a husky.
Like she would run for miles.
And I am a little sad for her that I don't like to run.
But oh well.
I wish she has a backyard to like run around in.
Yes.
By herself.
Yes.
Yeah.
So in my running journey, I've been getting so many
TikToks of people running.
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And it's so inspiring because these people like are running
marathons and stuff.
So I'm really trying to like keep up with that.
But I've barely gotten into it.
So my first race was this last Saturday and I ran a 5K.
Wow.
That is super impressive.
Impressive.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I could never.
I wish.
I also see those TikToks, but I can maybe run for like 30 seconds.
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I wish.
I wish I could love running.
Like I feel like that would be a great outlet.
Once you like get into like the first like, I don't know,
maybe month, it's so, it's such a mind game.
Like you just want to stop, you want to give up.
And like getting through that after the first like month,
now I feel like I can run and it like feels good,
even though it like hurts.
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Yeah.
That's like the hardest thing because I've tried like every
winter, I feel like I try, you know, and it's like the hardest
to get over that first few weeks.
Yeah.
And then to continue to do it is also so hard.
Like especially once it gets hot here in Arizona,
it's impossible.
I don't really like going and running on a treadmill.
I don't know if that's what you do.
A treadmill is hard.
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I have mostly been running on a treadmill just because I do it
at night and I don't want to run at night by myself.
Yeah.
It could be a little scary.
Yeah.
But I can still, like it's easier to entertain myself on a
treadmill so I can like sit there and watch something.
Scroll.
Yeah.
Or scroll.
And then so I'm going to train this year.
I'm going to train for a half marathon.
Wow.
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I think I can do it.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I feel like you got prepared for this one so quickly.
Like I don't know how long you were training for,
but I feel like you could, if you have more time,
you can definitely do a half marathon easily.
I think so because I was a runner in high school,
so I at least have like a little bit of it still in me.
So I was able to get into it, you know,
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in the first like two months, I was able to do the 5K.
So I think with a few more months of training,
maybe like a few more weeks of training, I can do a 10K
and then a couple of few more months
than I can do a half marathon.
I just need to find a good one when the weather is nice.
Yeah, I believe in you.
Thank you.
Yeah, you'll have to keep us updated.
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Yeah.
I only did the color run.
Oh, I forgot about the color run.
I did it a couple of times.
That's cool.
That was when I was much younger and more fit.
I walk.
I walk every day.
Oh, that's so good for you.
Yeah.
Every single day.
Hot girl walk.
Hot girl, hot dog mom walk.
Yep.
Because if I don't, I get yelled at by my dog.
(22:32):
She keeps you accountable.
She really does.
Yeah, I can't not walk.
So every day I'm up early.
How many steps do you get a day?
That's a good question.
Not enough.
Like you would think I would get more than I do, but I walk
and then I come to the office and I sit all day.
Yeah.
I got to start getting up and walking around
or working while standing.
(22:53):
Yeah.
It's actually hard to reach that 10,000 steps they work
unless you're doing something like running.
Even when I ran the 5K, I didn't reach 10,000 steps.
Interesting.
You have to go to a concert.
Yeah.
A little like an amusement park.
Yeah, amusement park, Disneyland.
(23:14):
Yeah, for sure.
Now I probably get less than 5,000 steps a day.
Really?
Probably.
Yeah, same.
Or maybe 5,000.
Same unless I run that day because we just sit on our butts
all day at work.
Except we're filming content so often.
Yeah, we're walking around.
A lot more steps.
But yeah, what did you guys think of the podcast
that we did a couple days ago?
(23:35):
Did you guys listen?
Yeah, I did.
I listened live.
You too, yes.
Live studio audience.
And I listened on Spotify as well to give us a listen.
But it was really good for our first podcast.
Amazing.
I loved it.
I was here.
You guys are great, yeah.
But yeah, have you guys been on a health journey
(23:58):
like Sherry was talking about?
I would say, yeah, a little bit.
I kind of have been doing the same things she's doing.
Like I use the same cleaning stuff as her.
Same with the plastic containers.
I haven't been using those for a long time.
I think what actually started me off on this whole thing
was getting a dog.
(24:18):
As sad as that is, is like I thought about somebody else.
I was like, I don't want to hurt my dog.
And I want to poison her.
So I think it started with candles.
Maybe.
Oh, true.
They're really toxic.
Yeah.
So it set me down this spiral of, oh my gosh,
everything is bad for me.
Basically, what's happening to Sherry right now.
(24:39):
Yeah.
Like that happens to everyone.
And then you want to replace everything immediately,
which you can do it slowly.
That's OK.
Yeah.
You don't have to do everything at once.
Right now, my new fixation is like getting
nice, good quality clothes, organic cotton, wool, all that.
(24:59):
Like that's my plan going forward.
As I'm not going to.
Less fast fashion.
Yeah.
Less fast fashion, better materials, things that
will last me.
Interesting.
But you can get pricey.
Yeah.
But they're investment pieces, right?
Exactly.
I'm going to try to do it slowly.
I'm probably the worst offender for this.
(25:21):
I have not changed anything in my life recently.
Not really.
I've always used the glass containers.
I don't like microwaving plastic because that freaks me out.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Recently, I've been trying to just make, like, homemade some
stuff more.
Like, I got a pasta maker, so I'm doing homemade pasta.
(25:43):
It's two ingredients.
I feel like it's healthier for me.
Yeah.
Last weekend, I made homemade cheez-its.
Ooh, really?
Which is really random because I saw that on TikTok.
Yeah.
If you look at, like, there's, like, 100 ingredients in
cheez-its.
Really?
And I love them.
But I was like, this cannot be good for you.
And I made those four ingredients.
(26:04):
Really?
Were they just as good?
They were good.
I needed to make them a little thinner.
They were really thick, but they were delicious.
And even Bill said they were, he doesn't even like cheez-its
and he loved these.
Oh, OK.
It was really interesting.
They're, they were good.
But I feel like that's the path I'm taking more of, less of,
like, the home products and whatnot.
(26:26):
No, I feel like that's also really important while we eat.
I do need to get better about that because I order out a lot.
Order in?
A lot.
But yeah, you need to send me that cheez-it recipe.
I saw Nara Smith made that.
I really, I was like, I feel like I'm Nara Smith right now.
Yes.
I was like rolling out the cheez-it dough and I'm like,
(26:46):
what am I doing?
Like, I had, I had seen her do like goldfish a long time ago
on TikTok and I was like, she's crazy.
Maybe that's what it was.
Maybe it was like she's like, you know, my kids wanted goldfish.
So I just decided to make it.
Yeah.
That's kind of, that's kind of like that girl I fall on TikTok.
Tess, she like makes everything from scratch.
I'm like, that's who I want to be.
(27:07):
Yeah, it's hard though.
I love that.
Yeah.
It's, it's fun though.
Like, I'm going to do something.
I don't know what I'm going to make something this week
and so nice.
Stay tuned.
I love it.
Well, that was a great podcast.
That was, I didn't expect to talk someone.
You guys are a great host.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So are you.
Thank you for coming on.
(27:28):
Thank you for having us.
And thank you everybody for listening.
See you next time.
Bye.
Bye.
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