SPODA: Julia Rose Barnett, Writer, Tarot Card Reader, Psychic Medium

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Hi.
I think this is the first timeyou, I'm done.
Hello?
Hello.
I think you know what?
I purposely was like, oh, wegotta, we gotta bury it up
sometimes and I Both arms.
Arms are up.
His just the gentlest.
Hi.
Hi.

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Podcast.
My favorite is when we sing theintro.
SPO Oda.
Welcome to SPO Oda.
Welcome back to SpiritualPractices of the Disgruntled
Artist, where we interview a newartist each episode to learn how
they're keeping themselves saneand spiritually healthy during
this epically challenging timeto be an artist.
Yes.
And after, uh, we talked witheach guest, we.

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Choose a spiritual practice or aritual of some kind that they
talk about and implement it forthe next two weeks.
Mm-hmm.
And so, yeah.
And by the way, I'm OliviaSpurs.
Oh, and by the way, I'm AriHader.
Uh, and so implement.
Good word.
Thank you.
There you go.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So last time.

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Yes.
Was Phillips Philip Rossi?
Yes.
When we prayed.
Yes.
Morning prayers.
Morning prayer.
Every morning.
Yeah.
How did it go for you?
Okay.
I'm so glad.
'cause I know we haven't talkedabout it.
Yeah.
And I was like, I feel like Iwouldn't want to talk about it.
Oh, and so, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Save it for the podcast.
Save it for the podcast.
My new favorite phrase podcastis a big friend.

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Now do not talk to me onpodcast.
Don't say anything.
Interesting.
Yes.
Boring stuff.
Your life.
So, uh, I knew that this one wasgonna be a little difficult.
Yeah.
Because you, because you broughtup quite a bit that you don't
feel like you prayed.
Yeah.
I don't pray and I figured itout.

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Why?
It's, it's s it's the speakingpart.
Mm.
I, I have no problem likesitting there silently talking
to the universe in my mind.
Sure.
Like, or, you know, doing that Ilive in my mind, but.
I remember the first time when Idid it, I like, I felt a block

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in my throat.
Wow.
This is interesting.
I'm pulling out my notebook, sodid you say the word God?
Was it the word God?
No.
Okay.
It wasn't word God.
No.
You just said, you said mother.
I said dear.
I said I think I, I think I saiduniverse.
I kind of varied it up.
Okay.
I think I ended up sayinguniverse that felt the more, and
then I also realized, I think itjust felt formal.

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'cause I kept on saying, dearuniverse, dear I, that's me, a
lady dear.
Do you know me?
Do you know me?
I have brown hair and I live inNorth Hollywood.
And it would, okay.
Um, so.
Yeah.
So I was like, okay, I I notedthat.
Yeah.

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And then, then, and it's notlike,'cause I did it in my car.
And I was alone, you know, itwasn't like I had fear of anyone
like hearing coming or hearingme.
But I I did it, and I just feltlike unnatural.
Wow.
I, that's all I can What, whatdid you pray for?
I, I, I did very much like the,the focus on gratitude.

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Okay.
Like, I, like was like, I didn'tsay this exactly, but something
of like, dear universe, I justwanna thank you for, my healthy
body.
And I just kind of would justlike, just.
Say, I didn't plan on what I wassaying.
I would just would like, thankyou for this, this, and anything
I can think of, you know, kindalike a gratitude list more or
less.
Yeah.
And then I was like, please givestrength or love too.

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And then.
Anyone that came up.
Oh, really?
You know, like that.
So I kind of, that's how Ifinished it.
That was like more or less thelike setup that I kind of, that
felt natural.
But it was interesting.
Like I could do that.
No problems meditating.
Like I do that meditating.
Right.
But it was the vocalizing for methat was like, I was like, I
wonder why that is.

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I don't know.
I don't know.
It got easier.
Okay.
Yeah, it did get, it did geteasier.
But did you ever enjoy it?
Not really.
Really?
Not really.
Like, I think I liked, I thinkthere was maybe, um, a time
where, um, there was a littlebit of like health scare stuff
for me that happened.

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I'll tell you both.
Is that all?
Everything's okay.
Everything's okay.
Okay.
But it was like kind of scary.
And then also like familymembers too.
So I think that then I felt.
More like, you know, please dothis, do that.
But I've also felt myselfafterwards, like silently doing
it instead of vocalizing it.
The same thing you said.

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Same thing, but I, like, I, Idon't, yes.
Here are some of my, here's someof my just hot takes on that.
Okay.
Hot takes, hot takes one.
Throat chakra.
I, that's what I was thinking.
Like some sort of block.
Yeah.
It must have been, I don't knowa lot about the chakras and like
what they mean, but like I thinkthey do like symbolize different
things, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did.
I definitely thought about that.

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I was like, there's something,there's something there.
'cause it just felt unnatural.
And I don't know if it was like,I really try to think about it
'cause I was like, no, the actof what I'm doing, what I'm
saying mm-hmm.
Doesn't feel weird or strange tome again.
'cause I feel like I've donethis meditating.
Yeah.
So I don't know.

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It just felt, I don't know.
And maybe.
It's because I wasn't clear onwho I was talking to.
Mm.
But then do you feel clear whenyou're silent?
Yeah.
Or just see.
Okay.
Like, because it might was so, Iguess I'm not thinking about it
as much.
Yeah.
I'm just kinda like, I, I wantthis, I, I desire this.
I'm, I'm wishing for this.

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Yes.
You know, whatever.
Putting that out there.
And I think the act of prayingwas like.
This declaration and almost madeit kind of scarier.
Here's my other thought.
When you're silent, yeah.
You're not expecting a response.
But when you talk aloud, Iwonder if you either were afraid
of getting a response in yourmind.

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Yeah.
Or you just, it felt weird tosay something and not have
anybody say something.
Back to you.
Yeah.
Oh no.
It was weird.
That's weird.
That's really interesting.
So, I mean, do have you.
When you first started praying,did you that, how'd it go for
you?
Okay.
It, how did it go for you?
It went well for me.
I kind of combined, so I did themorning prayer and it was, for
me, it was more about likeintention for the day.

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'cause like I already prayed soit.
Like, please let this day, and Iwas to God.
Mm-hmm.
I would say I was like God.
Okay.
And, um, intention for the dayand also something to release,
which I got from Kate when Katesaid that.
Oh.
So I kind of incorporated thatinto, I like that of just like,
because I have, my prayer atnight, which is like this sort
of thing that I say all thetime.

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Yeah.
And, and what I did like aboutit was it really, I felt like
set up my day to be like, thisis what I'm kind of focusing on
today.
Yeah.
This is what I'm sort of tryingto release today.
And it was nice.
I mean, I've kept it around,like I haven't gotten rid of it.
I think I will keep it around.
Like I have a, an alert on myphone at nine to say a morning
prayer, take my vitamins.
Like it does feel, I dunno, likemy bottom ones, you know.

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It, it did feel, that's sointeresting about you not
wanting to, to speak it.
It, I know I was Do you justfeel more connected when you're
silent?
Like, is there any of that?
I guess so.
It, it's so funny too because.
I guess I, uh, uh, if we'regonna bring this back to like
artistry and stuff like that,yeah, that is kind of where I
feel the least.
Uh, that's where feel theweakest.

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Your voice is my voice.
Whoa.
Okay.
So, so, because that makes sensebecause you do a lot of clowning
and stuff.
So do you feel you feel the mostcomfortable when you're not
speaking?
You know what, maybe I feel verypowerful'cause I think I'm very
good at expressing myself.
Yeah.
Silently, uhhuh.
Not that I don't.
I, I also love a monologue, likeI'm not afraid of it.

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Right.
But, and like, I'm currentlydoing Shakespeare, right.
So like, it's not that I can'tdo it, I just think like if I
were to lay out all of my,talents mm-hmm.
That is the one.
Like I know I mumble.
I know.
And I, it's what's I've been,it's what I've been critiqued on
the most.
Yes.
Right, right, right.
So I think it's not that I'm notgood in it, not.

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That I don't enjoy it.
Yeah.
Um, but I also don't considermyself an articulate person.
I'm sure a lot of people, Ithink I've even said this one
little podcast before.
Mm-hmm.
I think you're very articulate.
Thank you.
But a lot of times I like forgetwords.
Like I just don't feel, youknow, connected to your voice
as, as connected to, to myvoice.
Do you feel that this is worthexploring for you?

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Yeah, and I think the podcast ispart of the exploring for me.
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
'cause I was gonna ask, so firstof all also I had that too, but
in film acting mm-hmm.
I felt like right at like kindof the end of NYU into my
professional career, I felt likeI really believed myself when I
saw myself on camera and Iwasn't talking.
And then when I started talking,I felt like I lost truth.

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And it took me a while tocombine those eventually It
combined.
Yeah.
Where like, I feel.
Equally truthful.
Now, was it just like, sorry tocut you off.
Was it like timing?
Was it just like building thatup or was it like something I
think it, we, I think it waslike seeing yourself on camera a
lot and learning.
Yeah.
And like,'cause there are ticksand you can tell when you're
nervous and just being like, I'mjust dropping.

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I kinda like dropping into like,this is the, this is my voice,
this, you know?
Yeah.
So wait, this is what also whatI was gonna ask you.
Okay.
How has this podcast affected orchanged your spirituality or
voice or anything?
I think it's just like revampedit.
Yeah.
In its own way.
'cause I feel like so often, youknow, I, I think on our first

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episode I talk about how I'mjust not persistent.
Mm-hmm.
And like, even though obviouslywe're trying new things each
week, it's not persistent in thesame thing, but it's doing
something.
Yeah.
And I think that.
It's just been a joy to connectwith mm-hmm.
People and, and, and even peoplewho haven't been on the podcast
yet, um, and friends who havebeen listening and stuff like

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that.
It's just been, I don't know.
I know that's not spiritual, butlike, I think it all kind of,
you know what I mean?
Like, it just, it feels good.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's been great.
Thanks guys.
Yeah.
Thanks guys.
Yeah.
No, it has been great.
It's been great and Also, it'sjust making me, first of all,
it's been so interesting.
To have a conversation with aperson.
Yeah.
Feel some way about it and thenlisten to it back and see why.

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Yeah.
And it has only helped merealize like your kind of gut
about something like, I mean.
Almost everybody.
I, yeah, I feel like it's beenlike, that was great.
And then you see why it's'causelike they led with vulnerability
or Right.
You learn something new about aperson that you've known for a
really long time or whatever.
Like there's a reason why youfeel that way.
Yeah.
And we so rarely get thatopportunity to just have a

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candid conversation and then beable to play it back.
I'm like, ho, I mean, I kind ofwanna go around with a recorder,
recorder, but like, you know, itjust it's really, it's been
really fascinating.
It's been fun.
I've also been so excited to, isit, I don't know how, how do you
feel?
Do, who do you, who are you mostexcited to interview?

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Is it people that you don'tknow, like friends that I'm
bringing on?
Or friends that you're bringingon that you're close with and
like, I think I'm more excitedto interview your friends.
That's funny.
That I don't know.
And I'm more nervous in someways when it's somebody I know.
Yes.
I feel the exact same way.
Really?
Yeah, because I think.
I, I think for me it's like, oh,I don't know this person.

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Yes.
It's blank slate.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
Where I feel like other people,I remember kind of being nervous
for grants a little bit.
Yeah.
I know so much.
Mm-hmm.
You know, but no, it turned outwell, yeah.
Yeah.
It's also been, it's also beenreally fun to do people that we
know and like.
Get into it.
'cause you're right, we don'treally talk about this.
I know.

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The other thing is that for me,it really has re reminded me
that like everyone's just doingtheir best.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Yeah.
And I think every person we'vehad on is just like a wonderful
person also.
So we're not like we're havingany shitty people on here where
I'm like, Hey, you're not asshitty as I thought you were, or
whatever.
Like, everybody I knew waswonderful.
But yeah, everyone's doing theirbest.
We're all trying to keepourselves in a good spot.

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No one's quitting on themselves.
Right.
What has been your favoritething?
Trying on hmm.
Okay.
Let me think what we've had.
We've had grant sweating,sweating.
We had my five minute meditationmanage.
Yep.
And the prayer, My favorite, Imean, I think it's probably
gonna have to be the morningprayer, because I think I'll,

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I'll keep that one aroundthough.
Five minute meditation.
Silent meditation did teach mesomething of like, you can
meditate in more places anytime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that did too.
And there is something withgrants, like I've been trying to
be more sweaty, physical ingender and sweaty, trying to be
more sweaty.
I'm already feeling it rightnow.
Um, I was gonna say, I feel likeI learned another spiritual

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practice of myself, which kindof really.
I in some ways is like whatwe're doing here, which is I
think doing new things as partof my spiritual practice.
Yes.
And you have been doing Nancyand, and now I was also thinking
about the sort of nudges fromthe universe that we talk about
a lot.
Yeah.
And how at this point in myjourney, I will get a nudge to
do something or email someone orwhatever, and I will just do it.

(13:09):
Okay.
I won't ask a question untillater.
And that's kinda what salsadancing was.
I was like, I, I really like mywarm yoga studio, but on the
weekdays it's not intense yoga.
I wanna, I don't, like, I don'twanna be doing light yoga right
now.
Like I wanna be doing intenseyoga.
Something else.
You like the intense workout?
I do.
You like the intense, I'm like,that's good.

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I also don't have a ton of time.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Oh, thats true.
That's true.
To be if I'm gonna do it, it'sgotta be Yes.
Good for my brain or my body.
Yeah.
Preferably both.
Yeah.
So how, how is it going?
Okay, so it's going, I've takentwo classes so far.
Okay.
First of all, it just, it mademe be like, there are so many
people in the world that we willnot meet.
And if you choose to do a newthing, you will meet new people.

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Like I am dancing with, I, Idon't know if we're gonna be
friends or not, or never seeeach other again or not.
Yeah.
But, I'm meeting people in life.
Yeah.
Who like, how would I ever meetthem?
Otherwise I wouldn't.
Yeah.
So that's been interesting.
And then, yeah.
Yeah.
We don't think about it.
That seems so obvious.
Yeah, but it's also like.
You're right.
That's such a, anything you do.
I think that's also why I loveclasses.

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'cause you are with people.
Yeah.
And also for me,'cause I'm justwith my two lovely, adorable
children, but I don't have a lotof adult interac.
Adult, yeah.
Adult time you need them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's also been weird'causeit's like you're Dan, I mean
it's like si I, I'm sayingsingle, not that people are
single, but like you can go as aone person.
Yeah.
You don't have to go as acouple.
And they like mix and match youwith people.
It's very small.
Philip ever do south.
Oh, he would love to like, oh myGod, so cute.

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He's like having me teach himmoves and stuff, you know?
But like.
Yeah, so that, and so now, nowyou're also, not only are you
just around new people, you'relike dancing with them.
Like my sweaty hand is in theirsometimes sweaty sweat, mostly
not sweaty hand, you know, andwe're like spinning, like
there's like.
Contact.
It's an intimate, it's anintimate, yes.
Sport.
I was gonna say sport.
It's a dance.
It's, yeah.

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And it's, it's also so old,like, it's like has this
tradition, but, but that alsomakes it like really gendered.
Women are kind of.
Are the followers.
You look like this.
Yeah.
And like, men look like this andthey wear this and you wear this
yeah.
That you've kind of stepped intothis thing that like existed
before you and this is how theysee people.
Right.
And like, it's great that I'mthere for me and it's also
probably great that I'm therefor them.

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Like, honestly, you know what Imean?
To be like, all people can dothis thing.
Yeah.
I also feel like I really wannashow my daughters that you can
try new things.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Even if you feel uncomfortableor it's hard.
Yeah.
Because I think when I, I didgymnastics for so long and
that's like what I did.
Right.
Like three to 17, that was mystory.
It was all consuming.
I mean, there, there wasn'ttime.

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Yeah.
You know, I took an acting classon the side.
I guess I did that.
And I was like kind of in band.
Okay.
I did other things.
I was in band.
Oh my God.
But I wasn't like, I wasn'tlike, okay, I'm gonna stop doing
gymnastics now and.
Do whatever, like swim, be,swim, whatever.
Yeah.
Because it's scary.
It becomes, stuff becomes partof your identity so fast.
Yes.
Where you're like, I'm agymnast, it's what I do and I'm

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gonna lean on that.
Yeah.
And I think what I want, I, it'sso funny, it's scares me, but I
also love it is like being newat something.
Mm-hmm.
Such a thrill for me.
And I think a lot of people, uh,would relate to this I idea of
some people don't wanna doanything until they're good at
it.
Yes.
But like, how do you get good atit?
You can't, you gotta, you gottabe bad at something for a little

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bit before you're good.
Yeah.
And what's funny is, I, I thinkwe even talked about this too,
was like, I like being in thatsometimes.
Mm-hmm.
Because then I have noexpectation for myself.
Yeah.
The moment I cross thatthreshold of like, I'm a little
bit good at it.
Yeah.
You know, I've had experience.
Now I almost feel like there'sno excuse of being bad or you
know, I'm like more afraid to bebad.

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Interesting.
Halfway through.
Something separate, but relatedquestion.
Yeah.
If you were to audition for afriend of yours, would that
cause you more stress thanauditioning for a stranger?
Who has never seen your workbefore?
Probably.
Probably.
That's how I am.
Little bit more.
Yeah, definitely.
It depends who it is.
Yeah.
If I was also shooting for you,I feel like, like just gimme a
bump.

(17:03):
I this in the bag.
I don't how this, but you knowwhat I mean?
I think.
But I think there is thatpressure of like, yeah.
I think the same thing.
They, you know, that person'shas an expectation.
Has an expectations.
Yeah.
And so that would be hard to, totry to make, to make sure you
meet that expectation that youare putting in their head.
'cause you don't know theirexpectations.
Right.
But you are expecting.

(17:24):
Oh, they know me so they knowthis and this and this.
So this is probably what they'reexpecting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know what's funny?
It's like it is scary to try newthings, but then when you're in
a new class, everyone is sonice.
You know what I mean?
Everyone so nice.
So like we all start somewhere.
Everybody had their first salsadance class.
Nobody is like, get out here.
You know?
Oh, yours is your first time.

(17:44):
This is a class.
Yeah, this for learning.
Bye.
You know?
Yeah.
And I think that too.
I think that's actually like,it's so funny'cause that like
summer's come in.
Mm-hmm.
And if summer feels like such atime to explore and Yeah.
I really wanna take that on.
I know.
I know that we're gonna getanother thing, but I really

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like, I don't know, I thinkyou've inspired me to find, find
my salsa.
Yeah.
Love that.
Find out what that is.
Love that.
Do you feel called to doanything?
Like even if you don't know why.
I do, I I've mentioned hula hoopagain.
Yeah.
And I've been seeing a lot of,'cause I, I have, I have two
hula hoops.
Mm-hmm.
Three.
It's a lot of H hoops orsomething.

(18:25):
H hoop, H hooping.
Oh my gosh.
Side note, this could be editedout, but really funny.
This is a, like, symbolism.
Okay.
At its core, at its strength, atits what, at its finest is, um.
Two, the hula hoops we'rehanging out in the our backyard.
Mm-hmm.
And for those who don't know,it's like covered in bamboo.

(18:47):
Bamboo has become quickly one ofmy favorite plants because it is
insane.
It grows so fast.
Really so quickly.
It's, it's incredible.
And some of the strongestplants, like this thing like was
pushing a chair.
Mm-hmm.
Whoa.
Yes.
Yeah.
It will like push furniture.
It's like get outta my what isvery strong.
And I must have like put, I justlike was cleaning around.

(19:10):
I put the H hoops kind of liketo the side and it's been so
long that, uh.
A bamboo shoot has shot through,and I'm not joking, 10 feet,
whoa, bamboo.
But, uh, but we were actuallyable to bending, like, oh my
God.
Shifted, not, not having to cutit, but I was like, oh my God,
the hoops are stuck.
But honestly, that's, that's aweek, that's like a week or two.

(19:32):
Wow.
Yes.
No, it's kind of crazy, but Itfelt like a sign.
It felt like a sign.
It felt like a sign.
I love that.
I was like, okay, you shouldhula hoop.
I should hula hoop.
And is the, this is the time todo it.
Yeah.
And you never, that's the thing,you never know where that could
lead you.
Yeah.
You could do that and you couldmeet a fellow hula hooper who is
like, let's make a, pilot abouthula hooping.
Yeah.
And then that'd be fun.
Then tomorrow it's on Netflix,you know?

(19:53):
That'd be great.
I've heard get to Hulu then.
Yeah.
I better, I better get to No,but yeah.
And also too, I think it's justgood.
And I think this kind of leadsinto it is like.
The play is about to start.
Yep.
So.
I've already felt the fear oflike, I have nothing after this.

(20:15):
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yes.
And like I've, before you evenstarted, before I even started
and I was just like, come on,Olivia.
And so there's a couple thingsI'm trying to do to combat that
feeling.
Yeah.
Natural feeling.
Yep.
Natural feeling.
Yep.
Especially in this industry,we're all gonna feel it.
We're not judging the feeling.
Not judging the feeling, but Ithink.

(20:39):
I need to reframe it in apositive way that makes sense to
me Obviously post show blues isa real thing.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and I'm really gonnamiss it'cause I've had a really
good time on the show.
Yeah.
And I, and the reason I reallythought about this is like, I
was like, oh, there's been othershows where I haven't had a
great time.
Mm-hmm.
You know, but, um.
There's that relief, like it'sover, but there's still, even

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though there's that reliefmm-hmm.
There was still that fear.
Regardless, I feel like thatfear was, regardless if it's a
show that I'm really justgenuinely gonna be sad, it's
over and I had a great timeversus a show that I was just
happy to be doing somethingright.
And I think I've moved pastthat.
I think I've matured enough orbeen around a long enough that I
am now not doing shows that Idon't.

(21:23):
Wanna be a part of anymore.
Mm-hmm.
Just to be a part of a show.
Yep.
Um, but I remembered thatfeeling of like, okay, well we
all know shows end.
Yes.
You know, we know that's gonnahappen.
And with shows that you don'treally care about.
It was more like, great, Iwhat's next mm-hmm.
Onto something new.
And I was like, maybe I takethat feeling and even with the

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shows, I still love Yes.
And, and reframe that of okay.
Instead of the scaries what'sthe possibilities?
Like what are the, you know, getexcited about it.
Yes.
And it's, it's work.
Yeah.
Though it's more work, mentalwork, mental work.
But I think doing something newmm-hmm.
Would help, because.
It could be a, it could be awhile.
Yeah.

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Right.
You know, or like, or it couldnot be.
Yes.
I mean, you don't know.
We don't, we don't know.
Right.
But I think being proactive insetting something up for myself,
whether it's acting or not,right?
Yes.
Obviously that is what I'm aimfor, but if it is doing the
salsa or.
Doing the hula hoop or doingsomething new.
Yep, yep.
It's something to look forwardto.
Mm-hmm.
And it's something that in theend, like we, like we just said,

(22:27):
yeah.
It's going to help us.
Yes.
Whether it's a connection orjust something, a skill or Yeah.
A skill.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyways, i'm trying reallyhard, but I've already felt it,
like, yes.
Itching, crawling in of like, Ihave a, I, this is something I
wanted to tell you about and Ifeel like it could help you with
this.
Okay.
Okay.
So I was listening to anotherpodcast.
Okay.

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And she talks about a universebox.
Okay.
So she, she has a box.
Okay.
I know.
So excited.
Your eyes just sparkled.
So she has a box.
Okay.
And she writes on a piece ofpaper.
I have it written down here.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you universe for takingthis from me.
Write down the desire.
So I wrote like, thank youuniverse for taking the desire
for me to book a series, regularrole.

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Okay.
And then you say, I Welcome.
What is of the highest good forall.
Okay.
And you put it into the box, andit's kind of the same concept as
what we talked about in episodeone with me being like, I'm
gonna think about it in twoyears.
Right.
Whenever I had a doubt beinglike, in two years I'm gonna
think about it.
Mm-hmm.
I'm gonna think about, it's kindof that of me being like, it's
in the box, it's in theuniverse, box.
You know?
Yeah.

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And it, and I think it helps, Idon't think it's like a bandaid
fix all thing, but I think itdoes help, at least for me to be
like, yeah.
I want this.
Yeah.
I put it into the world.
I take steps.
Mm-hmm.
Towards getting that.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
If I feel called to dosomething, I do it.
I take all of like the normalsteps as well, you know?
Yeah.
But it's in the box.
I also think this very, feelsvery similar of when you write

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something down, then burn it.
Yes.
You know, it's like, it's likethat release feeling.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
I think'cause I think if youwant something, there's a chance
it's not gonna go your way.
It's like what we talked aboutwith Philip.
Yeah.
It might not be a cookie.
It might be a brownie.
It might be a brownie, yeah.
Or it might be a cookie, but itmight be farther away than you
want to.
But there's gonna be a reasonwhy.

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I mean, I think that's why it'simportant to be like, I welcome
what is of the highest good forall.
Because we have to take intoaccount that we don't know, all
of the puzzle pieces of ourlives.
Yeah.
And I think too, doing that isbeing like, I trust there's this
element of trust.
Mm-hmm.
And knowing, and there's alsolike, it's like you're not
distracted by it.
Yes.
And you can enjoy.
The life that we're given, andthe actual opportunities will

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show this way.
You know, I wonder how manytimes there have been
opportunities that we've beentoo distracted.
'cause we're thinking this is,is how I'm, but that's one
thing.
Gonna do this.
Yeah.
You know, and that could havebeen the door that could have
been Right.
You know, the kitchen to thecookies, you know, like, wow, I
didn't think about that before.
If you didn't listen to Philip'sepisode, the metaphor could be a

(24:56):
little confusing.
I'm just looking up this actressbecause I wanted to reference
her and I forget her name.
What was her name?
Christina.
Who's that actor who she's gotjust got diagnosed with
something terrible.
Oh, Christina, I dunno.
Applegate, what?
What's she been?
Not just, but Multiplesclerosis.
Oh, I did not know that.

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Yeah.
How old is she?
She's only 53.
Oh yeah.
But like when I think about likethe puzzle piece thing, And this
is, it is hard'cause this isadjacent to what me and you are
working on fixing in ourselves.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Which is the, if something goodhappens, that means something
bad must happen.
Yeah.
I must pay for it.
Yeah.
I must pay for it.
Yeah.
Or like at least whatever Yes.
This is like kind of railroad.

(25:38):
So I'm like really trying tokeep them separate in my mind,
But the puzzle piece thing,Christina Applegate has had an
incredible career, incredibleactress, you know, and now she's
53 and she's got multiplesclerosis, and like, would I
trade my life with her life?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
I wouldn't, yeah.
I, I would never, I would rathernever, but see here, here I go
again.
Now I'm on the other traintrack, right?
Where it's like.
That's how close it's for me,where I was about to say I would

(26:01):
rather never Right.
Get where I wanna be.
Right.
And not have multiple sclerosis.
Right.
Right.
Like, these have to be twodifferent tracks.
Right.
But I think we, there's room toappreciate Yeah.
We don't know all the puzzlepieces.
We don't, no.
I feel like it's a great way forus this the universe box, the
universe box.
And I also keep on thinking thepractice of gratitude.

(26:21):
She literally thinks theuniverse, thank you for taking
this.
Mm-hmm.
And gratitude is kind of goingback to the question of like,
what's, what's been your biggesttakeaway from the podcast?
Yeah.
Just is like, I think gratitudeis key.
Yep.
Because it all ties intoeverything we've just talked
about of you gotta be gratefulfor the wins that we do have.
Mm-hmm.
Career or not.

(26:42):
Yep.
If we keep on doing that, thatcan help us reframe the I'm
trying to think of a good way tophrase this sensation thing that
we're working.
Yeah.
Plus or minus theory.
Yes.
Yeah.
I don't know this idea that.
Universe must be imbalance orsomething.
Yes, yes.
Idea.
Yeah.
That if something good happens,something bad has to happen to
counteract it happen.
Yeah.
Yeah.

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I don't know.
It's hard.
It's just such a hard careeragain.
It's crazy.
It's, it's hard'cause it just,it's so hard to stay.
I think that's, that's reallyone of the reasons why I wanted
to do this.
I'm hoping that I can, and Ifeel like I've done a pretty
good job of staying prettyconsistently in a positive mind
to space.
But it's so hard when then,, youhaven't had auditions from your
agent in like three months, youknow what I mean?

(27:25):
And then all of a sudden it's soeasy to spiral down, down, down.
You know?
Yeah.
It just, it's so easy to getyourself out of it.
There's so much work going intokeeping ourselves Yeah.
In a good space and you can getto derailed on it like so
easily.
So I think that's it too, islike, that's how I feel we know
when it, yeah.
When it is going well, we'rejust like, yeah, well that's
because I do all these things.

(27:46):
All these things.
And then your challenge and itsometimes that could all just
fall through.
Right.
And I could have a completemeltdown, you know, but like the
bounce back is faster.
That's what I've noticed inmyself since I started this
whole thing.
Coming back from that is fasterthan it was.
I don't know, eight, yeah.
Nine years ago where I would belike depressed for a month or
whatever.
Yeah.
I don't get to that point.

(28:06):
Yeah.
But it's so hard to stay in apositive Yeah.
Way, you know?
And I think there's also too,the longer we're in it, it's
also like maybe the stubbornnessof I.
No, we shouldn't be made to feelthis way.
Mm.
Like, I refuse to feel this way.
Right.
We can't, it's not healthy.
It's not good.
Yeah.
What's the point of doing thisif it's gonna make me feel this

(28:27):
way?
Majority of the time.
Right.
I think a lot of it too, it justcomes back to, we genuinely want
this.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and I know that thisis, that's a big question for
people who are like.
Maybe leaving the industry orwhatever.
That's what you grapple with, isit worth the, yeah, I was gonna
say, it's so constricted rightnow.
Like I, what I'm getting upsetabout right now.

(28:47):
Is the celebrities are frickingeverywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
Everywhere.
They're doing commercials.
Yeah, they're doing Broadway,they're doing Netflix, they're
doing movies, they're doingevery, and I, and I also
understand, it's like they areused to a certain lifestyle and
like work time and because ofthe strikes and Yeah.
And everything that happened inthe past couple years.

(29:08):
Like they're feeling it.
So they're taking anything theycan, yeah.
So we're feeling it double.
But it's hard not to be I mean,it has made me be like, when I
get really big in my rider, itwill say at least one actor
needs to be an unknown.
An unknown.
That's cool.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, not that they can have acouple credits here and there,
but like if you're between thisperson who has more credits than

(29:29):
this person, choose the personwith the link, because otherwise
it's just gonna be the same 40people that are working all the
time.
It's, it feels so hard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like they are not evenfeeling secure, right?
No, no.
Obviously they're taking allthis stuff, like coffee
commercials and all that stuff.
I'm like, you guys really needthat?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's hard to watch, but yeah, itis hard to watch.

(29:50):
'cause it's like, can you blame'em?
Right.
But also you know, do they needit?
And so it's a bit, it's, yeah,but also they're probably being
offered, you know?
Yeah.
And they have, they can dowhatever they, I mean, they can
do whatever they want.
They whatever want they, theyhave the name to be like, I'm
gonna do this now.
Oh, our guest is here.
Oh, perfect.

(30:10):
Well look at that timing.
This might be its own episode.
Maybe s, maybe.
No.
Ladies and gentlemen, let me,uh, bring on August.
Julia Rose Barnett, she's awriter, she's a playwright,
she's a psychic medium.
She's a tarot card reader.
She's all the things.
Woo.
Welcome.

(30:30):
Welcome to our podcast.
Oh, thank you so much.
What a great introduction.
Uh, we like to start by.
You have the choice.
Yeah.
You can choose a deck of tarotor Oracle cards and we pull a
card or we can do three deepbreaths together.
Ooh.
Or both.

(30:51):
Well, you know what's funny?
I was wondering when I couldsurprise you with this, but I
brought two of my decks.
Yep, yep.
Great.
Yep, yep, yep, so actuallywhat's funny is you guys
intuitively picked up on how Ido readings because I always
start them with three deepbreaths.
Really?
So we'll actually do it.
Oh, always.

(31:12):
We can do, let's do three deepbreaths.
Okay.
Close our eyes and just join me.
I'm gonna knock the on the deckthree times,'cause that's what
you do to clear the energy andjust take a deep satiating
breath in as I shuffle insideout gently.
Second breath in a little deeperand release and final breath,

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deepest of the dick.
Connect it to your belly andsigh it out gently.
Gorgeous.
Now gently open your eyes.
You such a soothing voice.
You really do.
Oh, thank you so much.
You know, I, I thank you a forteaching me.
I talked Julia acting for abrief time.

(32:01):
Oh.
And it was brilliant becauseyou're brilliant.
I always say that.
Well, the card that we got isthe Four of Wands, which is
amazing'cause we're in Ariesseason.
And like Aries, the Wands partof the deck is the fire element.
Mm-hmm.
And the four of Wands iscelebration.
I mean, if you look at thiscard, it's two girls just at a

(32:23):
festival celebrating and.
you know, we're togethercelebrating right now.
Yeah.
So it makes a lot of sense.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah.
Does that resonate with youguys?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Let me ask you a question, thenI ask Olivia about cards.
'cause one of Olivia's practicethat I took mm-hmm.
Was pulling an OR card everynight.
Oh, I love that.
And I asked her, like, when youpull a card, do you think

(32:44):
something is speaking through itto you?
Or how, what do you feel like itis that's speaking through the
cards?
It's everything.
Okay.
It's yourself.
It's your higher self.
It's your guides, it's yoursource of light, whether you
wanna call that God source, uh,spirit universe.
It's all, it's all the same.

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I mean, I will say the energy ofthe names are slightly different
to me.
And, you know, I'm stillunderstanding that because.
My father would always say, whenyou think you know nothing, you
know something.
And even with spiritualawakenings and revelations, you,
you learn so much.
But you still, there's stillclues.
There's still like, oh, it'slike, I know things, but I still

(33:26):
don't know things.
You know?
Yes.
You believe you have spiritguides?
Yeah.
Do you know who they are?
Yes, I've seen them.
Really, the first spirit I eversaw were my grandparents and my
uncle when I was nine years old.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
I grew up in, well, I mean area,we grew up in the same area, but
the town that I was in,Shrewsbury, one of the oldest
towns in the United States.

(33:48):
Mm-hmm.
And I grew up in a 200 year oldhouse where.
We saw things.
We heard things.
It was actually, uh, theneighbor, it's the neighboring
house to the estate that sevenof our presidents used to
vacation at from Ulysses s.
Grant to, but Wilson, so Wow.
And my house was the servant'shouse.

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So needless to say, it wasreally haunted.
Effing haunted.
Yes.
And I remember my, my sisters,my parents and I, we were coming
home from the movies it wasnighttime.
We come in through the kitchendoor and there were just two men
and one woman.
And we hear the woman say, whatare we going to do about Julia?

(34:32):
And Oh yeah.
And my dad was like, mom, dad,Craig.
It was my grandparents and myuncle Craig.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Definitely like a pivotal memorywhere it was actually really
difficult to navigate.
If I'm gonna be honest with you,I was nine and, you know, hear
all of us hearing, what are wegonna do about Julia?
I was like, what are we gonna doabout Julia?

(34:53):
Yeah.
What are gonna do about her?
Tell me what's there do.
Oh gosh.
Like I'm even going to beauty atthat time.
There's a lot of life to live.
But no, it's been, I will say, Ithink it's because I chose to go
down this path because.

(35:13):
My family.
We all have it in us, but it waskind of hush hush because of
religion.
Um, my mom, I was raisedCatholic.
Mm-hmm.
My father's also Jewish.
He actually had to convert toCatholicism in order to marry my
mother.
'cause I'm first generationItalian, so very religious.
Mm-hmm.
But the thing is, what was sointeresting is even though I

(35:35):
come from like mygreat-grandmother who I look
just like, would interpretpeople's dreams in Sicily and my
grandmother would be able topredict cousins and wives of
people.
They were, they were rooted insuch religion.
Like my grandmother's patronsaints are saint.
Theres, who showers you with redroses when true love is near or
when an illness is cured?

(35:56):
And Padro p um, like we haveeven so many stories where there
have been miracles.
Like my, my uncle was cured ofcancer Wow.
From my grandparents devotingthemselves to doing the
rosaries.
Um.
My, I mean, so many of us havefound our partners by just
seeing red roses because of mygrandmother.

(36:18):
Mm-hmm.
Even after Hurricane Sandy, whenI lost my home, um, my
grandmother reminded me of St.
Therese and that next day when Ifirst visited my home, after
just seeing it like destroyed mysister and I found a felt pink
rose.
Oh, wow.
Right in our backyard.

(36:39):
Wow.
It was incredible.
So things like that justhappened and I never expected
it.
I never asked for it.
I never even.
I didn't even know whatspirituality was.
Mm-hmm.
All I knew is that I was likehearing things and seeing things
growing up.
So, yeah.
How do they feel?
What was your sort of movementtowards this version of

(36:59):
spirituality, which is notreligious?
Mm-hmm.
It seems like.
Is that correct, would you say?
Or do you feel like you arereligious?
I think there's a balance.
Like, I'll even show you thenecklaces that I'm wearing right
now.
Now, wait.
Whoa.
I love,'cause I think, here's ametaphor.
So this one is selenite, whichis like a beautiful white
crystal, and then tur Moline,which is like a little black

(37:21):
line.
And then I have my mother Marypendant because I have a deep
connection to Mother Mary.
I've seen her in visions.
So this has a lot of, it justhas a lot of energy and I, I
always carry it with me wheneverI go outside of my home.
What does Mother Mary mean toyou?.

(37:42):
Um, miracles actually.
Miracles creation andunderstanding that you have the
power in you to create whateveryou want.
'cause think about it.
She didn't need a man to birthJesus.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Um, so you don't need anybody.

(38:03):
Yes, of course you needcommunity and you need support.
However, it is your mind thatcreates everything.
Like even in tarot, the swordsaspect of the deck is all about
the mind, and it's alsoassociated with luck.
So luck is fostered from a amindset that allows you to grow

(38:24):
and expand into who you trulywant to become and who you
choose to become.
'cause they're one and the same.
Do you feel that everythinghappens for a reason?
Totally.
'cause you choose it.
Ooh, I love that.
Yeah.
So you think you have total freewill.
Yeah.
And then do you think that yourspirit guides nudge you towards

(38:47):
making decisions or the universeor God or saints?
I think it's, it's both, but itdepends on the circumstance.
Like, I always tell my clientsthe future is fate meets choice
or choice meets fate.
They, they're a spectrum.
They come interchangeably.
There are certain things thatare just meant for you, like
your parents, like you, youdidn't actively say, oh, these

(39:11):
are gonna be my parents, unlessyou believe in like past lives
and whatever on the other side.
Mm-hmm.
Um, yeah, like your parents,your talents, your line of work,
um, even your friends, certainpeople that enter your life,
those are moments of fate.
But how you get there and whenis up to you.

(39:31):
And there are multiplepossibilities.
I mean, I think getting,receiving a reading, like a
tarot reading or an astrologyreading, it's very misunderstood
because people think, oh, I canjust ask, is he the one or is
this the job that I need to get?
Or, when is this happening?
No, you, you decide that.

(39:52):
Mm-hmm.
You know, you could meet yourperson, but you have to do the
internal work on yourself andhave such a strong sense of self
and even stronger sense of selfworth to maintain the momentum
of a long-term partnership, yes,there is logic embedded in
intuition and so on and soforth.
Like that's just duality.
Mm-hmm.
I hope that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

(40:12):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
What are your current spiritualpractices that you do day to day
right now?
Well, every morning I work out,and that includes either Pilates
or yoga.
There is a spiritual element toathletics.
It puts you in.
That meant in that, that state,like my, my father was a really

(40:34):
big athlete, um, like he was.
He was supposed to be in theOlympics for diving, was an all
American athlete and hedefinitely has like very
spiritual stuff going on too.
'cause he's a chiropractor.
I didn't realize this, butapparently that's also a very
spiritual line of work as well.
I mean, you could say there'sspirituality in all lines of

(40:55):
work, but honestly what I noticefor the most part, the artist
way is the shamans way,especially as actors for what
you guys do and what I did in myformative years.
Um, yeah, you're basically amedium.
Mm.
You're interesting.
You're taking on someone elseand you're understanding them

(41:16):
and understanding theirperspective and.
Making choices and understandingwhy they're making those
choices.
That's spiritual work.
That's what you uncover intarot?
Yeah.
Oh, and if anything, being anactor prepared me to do this
work.
Mm-hmm.
So, so exercise is one.
Mm-hmm.
If one of your practices, isthere any other day to day

(41:37):
thing?
Oh, meditation.
I have to meditate.
There's how, what's your, do youdo guided or silent or what's
your meditation deal?
It depends on how I'm feeling.
That's, that's the thing that Ithink people need to understand
about habit.
You have to understand whatyou're feeling and how they're
seasons.
Mm-hmm.
Because there are times when Ijust need silence.
I don't need anything.

(41:58):
There are times when my mind isgoing crazy, I'm working on
something So I need somethingguided to keep me sane or
grounded.
Yeah.
Um, I think it just dependsthat.
That's fluid of late.
I've been really liking, um,aloe mo's uh, meditation
practices, and I love DeepakChopra.

(42:19):
Those are, I think Deepak Choprais 21 Days of Abundance is a
really good tool for anybodybeginning meditation.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Because it has the guided andthen you can, you just have the
music to let your freak fly.
Cool.
And it really introduces peoplegently to receiving the
downloads, like people say, youknow?
Mm-hmm.

(42:39):
Um, so yeah.
What do, what are some of yourdownloads that you've gotten in
a meditation that you remember?
Oh man, if any, we could go allnight.
Oh, what did I have today thatwas really beautiful?
Um, oh, it was my affirmationthat came to me.
Today it was all about, um,strength in the heart and how

(43:04):
like leading with the heart I'vehad, I mean, of late Shiva
actually came to me in ameditation that was really
powerful.
Um, this was.
Another practice that I do atnight.
Um, after readings, I have toclear myself.
I usually, there are exercisesin between readings that I'll do
just to kind of, so I'm notexhausted.

(43:26):
And at the end of the day for ashower, I tend to, at the end of
my shower, turn a cold All theway cold.
Yes.
I used to do that for, for aminute.
It feels so good.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
And there's a really good, Ilearned this from a Qigong
healer.
It's, you basically imagine theshower like a waterfall,

(43:47):
clearing your body, your aura,and then your inner body, which
is called the energetic body.
And then you become one with thewater and.
Turn into the water and imaginebeing in like a river.
And I love that.
I love that too.
I've had so many differentthings pop up.
Like I've seen souls within theriver and I was like, what is

(44:10):
going on?
They just felt way more archaicand ancient than I did and had a
mission that I didn'tunderstand, and it felt like
they were like, oh, you're hereto visit cool do you feel caught
off guard ever, like when yousee or experience these things?
Totally.
Do you still, do you say okay,okay.
Absolutely.
You said it happened since youwere nine, you know, is there

(44:31):
part of you that ever gets like,oh, I can, I felt you coming?
Or is it always like, yeah.
Yeah, most of the time I've beencaught off guard, I think like
9.5 times outta 10.
I'm caught off guard.
I'm like, I did not expect this.
Most deities that I've seen, I'mlike, who are you?
And they don't answer.
So my Google searches areinsane.

(44:52):
Oh my gosh.
Like I've had like funny hatdeity, like man with six pack
blue snake tongue.
And that was Shiva.
And then I was like, great.
You're caught off guard.
You don't, it's a lot to processsometimes.
Yeah.
That's why.
Yeah.
That's why I was like, do youfeel frightened at all?

(45:13):
Most of the time, no, becausethe, again, it's the energy and
you also come up with your ownpractices and mentors come to
you.
Um, intuitively, like I've hadmany mentors who have taught me
how to do the basics.
Like I used to what I burn awhite candle for protection.

(45:34):
Mm-hmm.
Um, just certain rituals thatyou can do before going into
these practices.
'cause again, it's ritual.
It's, it's something that'ssacred and something that needs
to be honored and respected.
Because if you don't know whatyou're doing, it can be an
overstep of your boundaries.
And it's not anything to beafraid of because again, you

(45:55):
always have a choice.
It's not like a horror film,which is why part of my work I
love, I'm a writer.
I'm a playwright, I'm ascreenwriter.
I'm writing my first book rightnow.
And that's awesome.
Yeah.
So cool.
Thank you.
And it's, it's fantasy, but notfantasy.
It's basically what I experienceand mm-hmm.
What I do.
Um, yeah.

(46:15):
It's, it's basically the magicthat is in this world.
'cause we do have magic.
It's just in a way that we don'tfully understand that
neuroscience and physics and allthe quantum physics mm-hmm.
Are actually starting touncover.
Mm-hmm.
Um, will you ever, like, meetsomebody and feel a spirit, a
person who, who has died intheir lives?

(46:36):
Yes.
Like trying to touch you?
Yes.
So what do you do in thatsituation?
I, I worked at a restaurant whenI first moved out here where.
I just kept seeing people'speople constantly to the point
where the manager pulled measide and was like, you need to
stop giving people mediumreadings.
I can't have people crying attheir tables.
So you would just go up to themand say, Hey, somebody wants to

(46:57):
sit.
Say, yeah.
Wow.
Well, it was, I will say thispeople out here in la, or just
so much more open to it.
Mm-hmm.
Interesting.
And like New York and NewJersey, everyone's closed up.
We were talking about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I wasn't seeing people'sthings.
Like I would give pendulumreadings at sleepovers and freak
out my friends and, and they'dbe like, I don't wanna do this.

(47:19):
No.
But out here, everyone's like,this is so cool.
Oh my gosh.
And they're open.
I'm seeing things, and itfreaked me out.
When I first moved out here, Iwas like, oh my God.
People need boundaries.
Like, so you're saying you.
Saw more here because people aremore open.
Yeah.
Wow.
At least that makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I mean, everyone's moreinto spirituality.

(47:39):
It's just nicer weather.
Yeah.
Even the energy out here is justso different.
Do you have to sort of switchwhere, like when you walked in
here and saw us, were you ableto be like, I'm gonna switch off
these people's tech people?
Totally.
Really?
Totally.
Yeah.
What is it?
Is it, is it anything physicalthat you do for that?
It's mental, it's it'svisualization.
Mm.
It's just un imagining you'rein.

(48:03):
I like to imagine I'm in a whiteroom.
Mm-hmm.
And I just turn off the lightswitch.
Oh my, my God.
I wanna see who you saw for bothof us so hard.
Oh my gosh.
Well, that's another thing.
I'm also like, I'm also a littlenervous too.
Like I'm human as well, so likewhen I'm nervous, I'm not in the
meditative state to be able tofully see.

(48:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, if you're feeling aheightened emotion, like you're
not gonna see anything.
But you know, if you're relaxedand you're just talking, you're
like, oh, okay, cool.
You know?
Um, plus it's also how open theother person is too.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, because again, you haveyour own spiritual boundaries.
I will not see things unlessyou're actually subconsciously

(48:47):
cool with me seeing it.
Mm.
Oh yeah.
Interesting.
So you do, how many readings doyou do in a day?
On average, probably like threeto four.
Wow.
Um, yeah.
And growing honestly.
What, what drew you to cards anddo you do tarot cards and oracle
cards, or just tarot?

(49:08):
I do Oracle for myself, but I,and sometimes I'll flip an
oracle at the end of the readingif that's needed, but mainly I
do tarot and astrology.
Okay.
Um, like I offer solely tarotand then I do a tarot astrology
combo because I notice that theyboth just work really well
together.
Mm-hmm.
Um, for some reason the transitsshow up really well in tarot.

(49:32):
Did you have a terror readingyourself or what kind of invited
you into this world?
So, when I was in high school, Iwas doing a lot.
I was auditioning professionallyand constantly going in and out
of New York.
I was a competitive crosscountry runner and I was
applying to colleges, but thenmy mom, my sister and I, while

(49:54):
we were trying to sell thehouse, kept also like feeling
spirits.
Mm-hmm.
That were, it felt scary.
It was definitely a familymember and.
And I, years later I figured outit actually wasn't scary.
They were just very protective.
Mm.
Um, but it not understandingwhat this is and having the

(50:14):
religious background, we werelike, what are we experiencing?
My mom and my sister experiencedit way more than I did.
I would sleep through it a goodamount of time.
I think they knew I wasexhausted because I was barely
sleeping.
So, um, but basically we triedeverything holy water, my Aunt
Feng swaying, um, likeredecorating, but like nothing

(50:37):
except for when we went to a, aterror reader, a psychic medium.
Wow.
And she was able to help usfigure out what this was, who
this was.
And ever since I would getreadings, that same reader told
me I had this gift.
Mm-hmm.
And I remember I was 17, which Iironically is my lucky number.

(51:00):
And I remember her saying.
You could do this.
Mm.
And I did have that like littleping of a moment where I was
like, I could do this.
Oh.
But then I didn't do it until Iwas like, I didn't start until I
was like 25, so it's fine.
So that's, that's kind of how itstarted.
It was just like trying to solvea very scary problem and then

(51:23):
realizing, oh, I actually reallylove this and it's a healing
mod.
Yeah.
Like the way my goal with mybusiness is to be able to show
how tarot is actually a healingtool.
I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you left acting, did youfeel like you left acting for
tarot or writing?

(51:43):
Or did it just sort of, kind offade away?
Or what was that like?
Yeah, so acting became reallyunhealthy at one point.
Like I.
I was so driven and I wanted todo it so badly.
Mm-hmm.
And it was as if I were nothingif I weren't an an actor.
Mm.
And you were very good just tosay thank you.

(52:05):
I know.
Because I Short time.
True.
And like, that's the thing.
I loved it and it, I still,again, it's so spiritual.
but I needed a break.
Mm-hmm.
Um, ever since you were assignedto Eileen too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So our man, both Ari and I wereassigned to this rep who passed

(52:28):
away suddenly.
I had a really weirdrelationship with her though.
Yeah.
I was really close to her.
Yeah.
She also was very, um, she had avery old guard approach.
However.
I think she was very protectedand had a very matriarchal
approach.
Like there was a lot of toughlove involved in her approach.

(52:49):
And I remember, um, that hit melike it was just really hard.
I couldn't find a rep that Ireally felt like family too.
'cause she was like a second momto me.
Wow.
Yeah.
This is good for me to know.
'cause I had a very not greatrelationship with her, I feel

(53:09):
like.
But it's good.
Like, but not everyone did.
I know that.
Yeah.
Like she, and that's the thing,she, it, it actually helps me
not put her on a pedestal.
'cause I think with a lot ofpeople, I've had a lot of people
pass in my life and we tend toput our loved ones who have
passed we put, we put them on apedestal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the fact is they were justhuman, you know, like Right.
She, she wasn't perfect.

(53:30):
Yeah.
She definitely, she was aboomer, you know, was one of my
spirit guide.
Zach Samat, I have four.
And he's one.
I recently in the past year haverealized who my spear guides
are.
Oh God.
I love that, babe.
That's so cool.
And you know what's crazy too?
I feel like Eileen's one of myguides too, she came to me this

(53:51):
morning.
She really, she, I was gonnatext you this, and I was like,
you know what?
I might as well just wait forthe podcast.
But she was like, tell Larry Isaid hi.
Oh.
And I was like, and she was alsolike, call Ralph.
And I was like, okay.
So Ralph, if you're listening toKyle, I'll call you.
I promise.
Yeah.
Ralph is our, our acting, ourmentor teacher, every, our
acting guru essentially.

(54:12):
Yeah.
Basic.
He owns the school that we bothwent to, that I taught at.
Yeah.
Got it.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I'm sure he's like, how didyou get down this path?
'cause I did not talk about anyof the spiritual stuff at the
acting school at all.
Yeah.
Um, because I was trying to likerun away from it.
Well, we, I mean, did you, didyou feel any shame about this
stuff?

(54:33):
Totally.
Oh my gosh.
So even my career trajectory.
So when I came to LA I ended up,I was still acting, but then I
stopped because I realized I'm awriter.
Like totally, I know.
I'll go back to acting.
There is a time I, I, I needsome healing and some age in

(54:54):
order to play the roles that I'mactually interested in.
If I'm gonna be honest.
I get that.
We talked about, we just talkedabout that.
Oh yeah.
Like, it's just way moreinteresting.
It's like playing Lady m like, Iwanna play Lady M1 day.
I love, it's another thing too,I'm like, can I just do
Shakespeare?
You can, like, that's, that'sall I want.
I just wanna do Shakespeare.
'cause he was just so, he's sucha little esoteric weirdo.

(55:17):
Totally.
So that was my acting journey.
But with writing, um, when I gothired in my first writer's room
as a writer's pa who, if youdon't know writer's rooms,
that's like the lowest man onthe totem pole.
You're like getting the coffees.
Um, you're, you're doing all thecurse word work, you know?
Um, but yeah, I had a mentor whotold me like, do not talk about

(55:42):
this stuff, really, like, you donot talk about this stuff.
Which is ironic because I wasworking on a genre show and a
lot of the writers were tappinginto spirituality.
And I've had writers ask meabout tarot because it's showing
up in stories more and more.
Mm.
And me, along with so manypeople in the spiritual

(56:03):
community, we get so frustratedbecause the stories are not told
accurately.
Yeah.
Like, I love white, don't get mewrong.
But season two with the tarotcards, I'm like, Mike, that's
not the cards that they chose, Iwas like, that is not at all
what that means.
Like, good sir.
Right?
If you're gonna tap into tarotor astrology, you need to know

(56:27):
what you're talking about.
Mm-hmm.
Unless you're making a specificcharacter choice where.
They are so into it and so intothe fad where I think you could
play into the comedy there.
Yeah.
But if you are going to actuallytalk about this, you need to
honor it.
Mm-hmm.
And I find the irony in, a lotof writers that I run into and

(56:48):
networking, um, and justfriends, they, they don't
believe in it or they secondguess it, or they're like, oh, I
don't wanna talk about it, butI'm like, why are you writing
about it?
Mm.
If you don't wanna talk about itor if you don't believe it.
Mm.
Because yeah, it's, it's veryperformative in my opinion.
Like it needs to be representedwith accuracy because a lot of

(57:09):
it is fear-based rather thanlove-based.
And that's what I'm striving todo.
The stories that I'm currentlywriting and telling.
Are all about celebrating it.
There's a dark side to it,however you have a choice, and
that actually makes for betterstorytelling, in my opinion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.

(57:29):
I love that.
My, yeah.
I have a quick question aboutspirit guides.
Yeah.
So I don't know if I have spiritguides or really, we, we've
talked about it before.
I am not sure.
Is there something you could doto tap into specifically a
spirit guide?

(57:50):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, I will say you do havethem, um, from what I pick up
on, they take a backseat becausethey know that you're not open
to.
Discussing with them.
Wow.
Okay.
Like, I can see them from afar.
Like they're very protective.
Like I see like the, the, it'slike the coven and like, of a
better way to say it.
They're kind of laughing'cause Idon't think that's the word they

(58:12):
want.
But, um, it's cool because Iactually looking into your eyes,
I recognize one of'em.
I think it's a grandmother ofyours.
Okay.
Um, like again, they're taking abackseat.
They're, they're behind you.
Um, but it's like, all righthere, like I'm seeing the
genetics here.
There's a man that has like thispart of your face, the eye, some

(58:33):
of her cheekbone and um, it'slike that one side of your face
that the light is hitting rightnow, where I'm recognizing it in
a man that feels more distant onyour father's side.
Okay.
But I.
Okay.
Yeah.
Uh oh.
We just had a realization.
Yeah.
You had, well, I never met mygrandfather, who I'm named
after.

(58:54):
Oh, there you go.
Yeah.
Do you feel that spirit guidesare always people that a person
knows?
Uh, yes.
And I say that in a weird,mysterious, esoteric way because
I don't, I just have like weirdfish hands because some of your

(59:14):
spirit guides come from yourpast lives as well.
Mm.
Now we're also tapping intosomething where not everyone
believes in past lives.
I've seen three of mine and, andone of them was through acting
actually.
Um, it was.
So weird.
Um, yeah.
Like you were acting a role andyou were like, this was me in a
certain play.
Yeah.
I was in a play where, this iswhen I was still living in New

(59:38):
York.
It's like off off Broadway andit's like three people in the
show, and was mainly a two womanshow.
And the director was like, okay,Look at each other in the eye
and then just start the scenewhenever you're ready.
You know, like you get that allthe time.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So I'm looking into this girl'seyes and all of a sudden I, it's
just literally her eyes and hereyebrows and that little bit of

(01:00:02):
the nose that's still includedin that part of seeing.
Mm-hmm.
Everything just goes.
I don't know how else to say it.
It, I just am in Versailles.
Thank God for Les Mis and arthistory.
Otherwise, I would not knowwhere I was.
It was outside of Versailles.
There are cannons going off.

(01:00:24):
There's just so much sooteverywhere.
I just remember, like even whenI looked down at my hands, I
can't look at them the same.
Like, I remember looking down atmy hands, so, and dirt
everywhere.
I see like the big dress withlike the grandma's house looking
flower prints all over.
Um, I remember the weird feelingthe wig on my head was, I

(01:00:48):
remember feeling callouses onparts of my head that like, I, I
wouldn't know that feeling.
Like I remember feeling like thepocket in my ribs, and like
where my stomach begins to beable to breathe in that like
corset and.
I just look up and I see thosesame eyes, but it's a different

(01:01:08):
person.
And I remember just knowing theywere a woman, but they were
dressed like a man in that wholegarb.
And they just go, come on, let'sgo.
And we both, I'm ju again.
I am back in New York.
I'm back where I was.
Me and my scene partner just goand she just goes, were we just

(01:01:31):
in France?
Whoa.
So she, yeah.
Whoa.
She was here too.
We freaked out.
Now, do you think that happenedbecause she was in your past
life with you?
Like do you, do you think that'show you guys were able to
connect and go at the same time?
Absolutely.
Like, it kind of felt like thismeta I'm experiencing something
that something in meexperienced, but I don't fully

(01:01:55):
understand what that is, if thatmakes sense.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So it's interesting as I'vetapped into doing spiritual work
full time, I feel like,'cause Istill pray, I still say my Hail
Marys in our fathers, but Inotice, I, I see things that

(01:02:16):
are.
From different religions anddifferent cultures, like past
lives aren't European beliefs.
That's something totally likedifferent.
Yeah.
I was gonna ask you about that,but I also want,'cause Olivia,
so we're talking about Olivia.
Yeah.
Olivia wants to connect with herspirit guides.

(01:02:37):
But then I wanna come back tothe dovetail of religion and
pastor.
Yes.
Yeah.
You, you were like, what can Ido?
Yeah.
Well you raised it like whatcould one do, but what we all
know it's what can you do?
What can I do?
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, that's a great question.
Um, yeah, best thing you can do.
Meditate and ask them to comethrough.

(01:02:59):
Okay.
Are you scared of them comingthrough?
You know what, it's not evenscared, but I just, I guess I
just never was interested.
I've never really thought aboutit.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Do you have also, um, objects oftheirs?
Objects that hold memory?
Like people who've passed?

(01:03:20):
Yeah.
What you could do is, there's somany different things you can
do.
You can create an altar that isfor your ancestors that, um,
like photos of any of them.
Um, that helps a lot.
Um, like one of my main, mygrandmother, she was a painter,
so I have her painting in myhome.
I think it just depends on what.

(01:03:41):
What dynamic you want.
Do you wanna be able tophysically see them or do you
just want little check-ins of,oh, okay, we established a blue
butterfly.
Oh, I just saw a blue butterfly.
I know they're there.
I know that means I'm on theright path.
I think you, it's about creatingthose boundaries.
Okay.
That's good to know.
Yeah, because I never reallythought about like what kind of

(01:04:03):
relationship I wanted.
Yeah.
That's also why,'cause again, I,that's why I asked.
'cause you know, I, we, when we,when we asked earlier about
spear guides, I think there'slike, not jealousy, but like,
oh, I wish I knew, but I alsonever really dislike, thought
about it or felt it in that way.
Yeah.
I like the alter idea a lot.

(01:04:24):
Mm-hmm.
You should take that.
I think.
I think I'm feeling the altar.
Yeah.
For me it was like when Istarted thinking about spirit
guides, our friend Kate broughtthat up to that me at some
point, and that's when like.
I mean, there are people thathave passed where I just knew
they weren't gone.
The other three, it's Philip'sgrandma, interestingly, not my
grandma.
Like and I, and that's one ofthe reasons why I knew, and my

(01:04:44):
friend was like, maybe she wastired.
She was just tired.
She doesn't want just tired.
For a while I was kind of liketalking to, to my grandma and my
uncle and I wasn't, not, notgetting a response, but the
response was muted.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
So it made me be like, okay,that's not it.
Like if I needed that, they'relike on the bench.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it also depends onwhat you're going through.

(01:05:06):
Some will come through more thanothers during certain points in
your life.
Like, interesting.
Actually, two years ago we wererenovating our home.
My great aunt on my father'sside started to come through and
I never met her and she was veryclose to my, my father, my, my

(01:05:26):
great aunt bub.
Mm.
And I just, I didn't know whothis was.
I was like, this woman who feelslike, like just such a badass
and like telling me you've gottado this by this deadline and, or
like, I'll know that she's thereand she actually slammed my
door.
Like it was crazy.
Um, but again, like I'm notfreaked out by that.

(01:05:48):
So like that's not gonna happenfor.
Anyone you know, please knowthat audience.
Like, again, boundaries, likeyou decide what you're open to
and what you're not open to.
I'm just, I'm just having to beopen to a good amount.
Um, but other times, like mygrandfather or my grandmother,

(01:06:08):
like, it's just, it depends onwho you need in that moment and
sometimes who you need is notwho you expect.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Okay.
I wanna revisit this because, somy, Philip my husband Yeah.
Is Catholic and he is very, Idon't wanna say nervous, but
like he would never do a Ouijaboard.

(01:06:29):
Mm-hmm.
He feel and, and Oracle cardseven he wouldn't do Oracle
cards.
Yeah.
He feels like, I think he feelslike it's sort of a negative
spirit could come through,through those mm-hmm.
Things.
So do you feel any pressure fromeither of the communities?
Well, I think, first of all,Ouija board don't, I don't
recommend doing that.

(01:06:50):
I learned that the hard way.
He is right about that.
Like, oh yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Not, not great.
Um, but, or if anybody's hadgreat experiences, I haven't.
So, um, I don't know everything.
If you think you know nothing,you know something.
But, um, that's a really goodquestion.
I mean, I'm gonna be honest withyou, even the stories that I've
told I'm nervous about.

(01:07:11):
I'll be completely candid withyou.
I think because a lot of thisspiritual stuff is demonized in
religion.
Yeah.
Right.
Even though it goes hand inhand.
Like my grandmother is soreligious.
That woman has dementia and shestill does the rosaries every

(01:07:32):
day.
Wow.
And yet she's able to.
Predict what she's predicted.
Mm-hmm.
Like, I mean, even my, mygrandfather,, towards the end of
his life, he underlined, um,lines in the Torah and the Bible
and like predicted things frommy family.
Wow.
Wow.
Um, but like, I don't think hereally knew that, oh, I, I have

(01:07:56):
this gift, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Like, I think that just sort ofhappened.
It's such a tough one to answerbecause I think when, I think
people fear the other becausethey are a spectrum within the
same spectrum.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.

(01:08:17):
I think everyone's, to behonest, like what my belief is,
I think everyone's belief isaccurate.
It's just a matter of findinghow the puzzle pieces connect.
Because I do believe that we allare, we are all one.
We are all in this ecosystem,and our purpose is to rise into

(01:08:38):
collective consciousness,whatever that may be.
For me, it feels like a brightlight of nirvana, but I still
don't fully understand what thatmeans.
Um, and we're, we're not evenclose to that, but I think it's
gonna take hundreds of thousandsof years for that.
But also, who knows, like Icould be wrong.

(01:08:59):
I also just can't deny that I'veseen what I've seen and Right.
I never asked to see what I see,so that must mean I have to do
something with it.
Right.
That's so weird.
I was just gonna ask you aboutthe universal consciousness
thing.
Yeah.
I feel like we talk about itevery episode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because in some ways, to me, Iwonder if that is what it all

(01:09:19):
is.
Like it if all of the religiousand spiritual practices are all
of us just trying to meet.
At the same level Yes.
Of universal consciousness.
Actually.
This came up yesterday in mymeditation.
Really?
Yeah.
It, it was like yeah, that'sexactly it.
We're all trying what's sobeautiful about what I, what I

(01:09:42):
deduced from yesterday'smeditation that just kind of
came to me.
We're all trying to come up tothis beautiful light of nirvana,
but the only way to get get upthere is through our own unique
perspectives, because they'reall the puzzle pieces in order
to make the light.
I love that.
Me too.
Yeah.

(01:10:02):
Like, you better be right.
Otherwise, why am I seeingthis?.
It's so interesting, likethere's such a dichotomy with
you that I'm feeling, and pleasetell me if I'm wrong.
That.
It does feel like you reallybelieve you create your own
reality though.
Yeah.
More so than you think that youare divinely inspired.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Absolutely.

(01:10:23):
Interesting.
Yeah.
It's because the thing is, I dobelieve you come into this life
understanding a certain lesson.
Like when you look in anastrology chart, it's very
apparent that you came at a veryspecific time.
It's basically, you decided toarrive on this earth, right?

(01:10:45):
And there is an asteroid calledthe north node, so it's also
known Rahoo, K two north nodesouth node.
South node's indicative of whereyou're comfortable and
complacent in and what you didin past lives, where your
talents are, north node's yourpurpose.
And when I say purpose, purpose,it's not like this one thing
you're supposed to do.

(01:11:05):
It's more so a theme.
Like your purpose is a theme andit's actualized in all facets of
your life.
Like that's why, especially asartists, I love that your
purpose is a theme.
I love that.
Yeah, me too.
It feels less daunting andscary.
Yeah.
You know.
Exactly.
And because I think we we're ina society where it's like, I.

(01:11:28):
Especially in your formativeyears.
You need to understand whereyou're gonna college, what
you're gonna do for a living,all this stuff.
When in truth, you're justforming your subconscious in the
first seven years of your life.
It's maybe a fourth of your lifeat this point with how long
we're living at, you know, in2025.
Um, I think you, you change yourmind a lot.

(01:11:52):
Oh my gosh.
If teenage Julia knew that Iwasn't acting right now, the
world would be over, you know?
Right.
Like, she thought that was herpurpose.
But no, honestly, like mypurpose is to help heal.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it's, it's healing.
This is just blowing my mind.
I feel like this is why, part ofthe reason why I'm so happy

(01:12:13):
we're doing this podcast isbecause.
Some of the things that you weresaying.
Mm-hmm.
Remind me.
So much of the things that GrantJosie, episode two said,
Olivia's husband who is anatheist.
Oh.
Like, like you guys could not befurther on the spectrum, which
is like maybe proving our pointthat we're all actually trying
to meet at some universalconsciousness.

(01:12:36):
Mm-hmm.
Of just believing in like thatyou have the power and the free
will and the fortitude andconfidence to like to live a
life that you want and you'renot defined by what you do.
Like there's so many, right.
Yeah.
No, I know.
That's so funny.
I totally thought that too.
That's so funny.
Well, I think, honestly, this iswhy I'm like, I will actively
choose not to debate anybody ontheir religious beliefs or

(01:12:59):
spiritual beliefs.
Or what their version of themeaning of life is, but rather
come ask with curiosity becauseit's the way they're meant to
see the world, their perspectiveis what helps us in our
collective purpose.
I was gonna ask what your signswere.
Oh, I'm a TAUs sun.
Okay.
Leo Moon, Scorpio ascendant.

(01:13:20):
Wow.
So your birthday is soonish May8th.
Same day as Buddha and EnriqueGlacio two.
Same person.
Right.
I feel like I'm the middle childof that, of that Wow.
Progression.
That's awesome.
I have one more question.
What do you think comprises asoul?
What comprises of soul I didhave this one meditation

(01:13:45):
actually.
It was, it was a, um, a Nordicshamonic healing that I had, uh,
one time that was very, veryinsightful and I just saw my
soul.
And it just, I, I saw it amongstthe stars.
Mm-hmm.
And it was like this beautiful,like, I don't even know what it

(01:14:08):
would be made of.
It almost looked like a gas, italmost looked like stardust.
Stardust.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like this beautifulpurple.
I just saw purple and every timeI feel like I need to go back to
my power, I always go to that.
Vision of me as Stardust.
Mm-hmm.

(01:14:29):
Cool.
Because it was, I just felt thepower, you know, like it was so
powerful and so unique.
And it was purple.
It was purple.
Like a lavender.
What do you think is, what doyou think is in all?
Uh, honestly, I was gonna sayStardust.
Really?
Yeah.
It's cool.
Yeah.
For me, I think it's like, Ithink it's your core personality

(01:14:49):
traits.
I think I've kind of learnedthis more since having children
where they're just, they havequalities that they were just
born with.
Fiona is maternal, she's alwaysbeen maternal.
She was a baby and she wasmaternal.
Wow.
Like the minute Ellie was born,she was like that, this is my
baby now.
Like, oh, cool.
She's just born.
She's born with this maternalinstinct that like, I feel the

(01:15:11):
only explanation I can give tothat is like that is a sole
quality of her.
Wow.
Whereas like, I feel like I amintensely empathetic, Like that
I think is a soul quality ofmine.
I don't know where I stand onpast lives.
I think.
I haven't thought about that toomuch, but I feel like for me, if
a soul is journeying throughthese lives, what's something
that it always has?

(01:15:32):
And that's, it's like thosequalities to me.
Yeah, totally.
I like that.
That's so beautiful.
I agree with you on that.
You do have core personalitythings and I think that's like
the fate part of it.
Yeah.
Because like, how do you.
How do you choose like, oh, I'mgonna be an actor.
Like, how do you choose thosequalities, you know?
Mm-hmm.
I know you do your two weeks.

(01:15:52):
Yes.
Our homework.
Your homework, yes.
Homework.
What's our homework assignment?
Okay.
Should I do homework assignmentfirst and then, then, oh, you
had one for us.
I do.
Great.
I, I came prepared.
I'm a Taurus.
I feel like I just saw Aria as achild with her pen and paper to
like, oh, we have an assignment.
I'm ready, I'm ready to do, I'mready to write it down.
I, I was like, are we gonna doDeepak Chopra 21 days of a

(01:16:13):
month?
Yes.
Are you the cold child?
Those are my options, but Iactually have a very specific
one.
So.
Do you guys know your sun, moonand rising?
Yeah.
I don't.
You don't?
Okay.
So we may have to do yoursafter.
Okay, great.
Um, but Olivia, I'll focus onyou.
So cool.
I, so by the time this comesout, I came up with my own

(01:16:36):
manifestation technique.
This is based on your astrologychart.
Okay.
Your chakras, how to unblockthem and your free will.
I basically, you start with yourauthentic archetype.
Okay.
And it basically is this, um,this vision, this feeling that
you can always tap into nomatter what you're feeling in a

(01:16:58):
day, whether you're goingthrough a challenge or a joy.
'cause I don't believe in goodand bad there.
It's just joy and challenge.
'cause there's good and bad ineverything, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Um.
So what is your son?
I'm an Aquarius.
Oh, I love that.
Okay.
Your moon, uh, cancer.
And your ascendant?
Uh, Virgo.
Virgo.

(01:17:19):
Okay.
So you are the decisive and safeprotector.
Wow.
I've never thought of myself asdecisive.
I love this.
Wow.
Okay.
Which is why this is the one.
This is your authentic arc type.
What is it?
Decisive.
You are the decisive and safeprotector.

(01:17:39):
I like that.
I wrote it down in my littlenotebook.
Thank you so much.
It happens to just come up withthe qualities that may challenge
you, that you've always strivedto have.
Just like you not thinkingyou're decisive.
I'm not.
That could be a block for youfor certain things that you're
trying to achieve.
So when you remind yourself, no,I am decisive.

(01:18:01):
No, I, I am safe in my setting,I am safe to be able to move
forward because I'm a protector.
Wow.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
That's just, what's yourhomework?
Okay.
So we have our, well you haveyour thing.
Yeah.
You have your thing.
Yes.
And do you know, do you knowwhere your, what house your moon
is in?

(01:18:21):
If not, that's okay.
My really good friend did mychart.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I don't wanna mess up therecording.
Oh, you're good.
But I could look it up forlater.
Okay.
Look it up for later, becausethat will determine your root
motivation.
And I can give you just a listof what the root motivations.

(01:18:44):
And when I say root motivation,I mean the reason why you wanna
manifest what you're manifestingno matter what it is throughout
your life.
Okay?
There's always a root reason whyyou want something.
Mm.
And some of them, based on thehouses, authenticity,
prosperity, recognition,mastery, trust at the, at your

(01:19:08):
heart of hearts, that is whatyou're seeking.
For the next two weeks, wheneveryou clock a moment of doubt.
Mm-hmm.
I want you to remind yourself ofyour authentic arc type and root
motivation.
Oh, I love that.
Love.
Yeah.
That's so much.
Yeah.
And, I will be coming out withthe ebook.

(01:19:29):
Yes.
You have a title, amazing.
Yes, yes.
Called Manifest With My Moon.
That's so cool.
And guess what, it's actuallylaunching'cause you manifested
something on the state.
August 8th?
Yes.
Wow.
Nice.
Lion's portal.
Lion's portal.
Nice.
Oh, that's so exciting.
Okay, great.

(01:19:49):
Oh, I love it.
Oh, I'm glad that, wow.
This is, I have to say, this hasbeen such a magical experience,
isn't it?
Nice.
I am vibrated.
I wanna end with something thatwe might edit out.
Okay.
But, but it's called InsightTime ba.
And if anybody has, I don'tthink we do it all the time.

(01:20:09):
Yeah.
But if anybody has an insightthey'd like to share.
I have one, which is why Ibrought Insight Time into our
lives.
Mm-hmm.
Which is that I've been doingthis forgiveness practice.
Actually, I wrote down Eileen,'cause I need to forgive Eileen.
She was just very, she was veryfair weather with me.
Mm.
She would think I was reallytalented.
One moment, and then she wouldthink that I was not the next,

(01:20:30):
that it was for a first manager.
Mm.
It was a.
It was difficult for me.
That's tough.
Um, but she's on my list, butthis book I'm reading called
Code of the Extraordinary Mind,which I keep talking about.
Yeah.
Um, he talks a lot about howimportant it is to, to, to
forgive and release anyresentments that you've been
holding on to.

(01:20:51):
And so I sat down and made alist and I thought I'd be like,
yeah, my ex is whatever.
And the list was long.
It was longer than I wanted itto be for sure of just my New
York roommates and like thisacting teacher that I had.
Just things that still bubble upevery now and then for me that
are taking up like energeticspace, you know?
So I've combined it with yoga'cause I do warm yoga.

(01:21:12):
I don't do hot yoga because thenI'm just standing there trying
not to die.
But warm yoga, I'm actuallypracticing and sweating.
And so now basically his ideafor what you do is.
You think about what happenedand like what made you upset.
You put, set a timer for twominutes and like feel all the
feelings of anger and betrayaland frustration.

(01:21:33):
And then you start trying to,even if you're making it up,
imagine why that person didthat.
Like this acting teacher ridejust kind of finally released of
like maybe his mom was dying.
Maybe he was a failed actor.
And I reminded him of something.
Maybe he got really hurt bysomebody who looks like me.
Just kind of givingjustification for them.
Yeah.
And then what I've added ontothat is like how it's helped me,

(01:21:55):
like thanking them for the waysin which their presence in my
life has gotten me to the pointwhich I'm in now.
And there's always like a lessonwrapped up in all these things
to find.
So I've combined this with yoga.
Mm-hmm.
And it's like different amountsof sessions for different
people.
So I just released the actingteacher person now.
Wow.
And I'll work on the next personand I, you know, some of them

(01:22:16):
will maybe take two classes andsome of'em it'll be like three
weeks of it.
But yeah, I found it really.
Um, really interesting andmoving.
I love that.
I love the adding on of thankingthem.
Yeah.
I think that's, that's really, Ithink, important.
I think that's what I need toclose the door.
Yeah.
To, to be like, this wasbeneficial for me in some way.

(01:22:37):
Yeah.
That's so powerful.
First of all, that is, that'llbe my assignment.
Yeah.
'cause I think I need that forsure.
Torahs can hold a grudge, but Ithink it, it does remind me in
readings, readings are a mirror,you know, like, yes, you're,
you're giving someone a reading,but there's also insight for you

(01:22:59):
as well, and you are tappinginto that with.
This entire process that youjust shared with us.
That is so beautiful.
Thanks.
Oh my gosh.
I, yeah, that's my assignment.
I'm deciding that.
That's so cool.
Oh, beautiful.
Thanks.
Love it.
Do you guys have any insightsyou wanna share?

(01:23:20):
No, not really.
But I love yours.
I don't know if I have anyinsights.
Um, I guess actually, you knowwhat I've started to do that has
really helped me.
Um, I, I have a therapist whodoes art therapy and somatic
healing.
Mm-hmm.
And I absolutely love it becauseI've really uncovered that art

(01:23:42):
is therapeutic for me.
Like, even though yes, part ofmy income is.
An art form.
I need art in order to heal.
Whether that's collaging orpainting or ceramics.
I recommend that all the time inmy readings.
And again, it just goes to showhow art really is so spiritual.

(01:24:05):
Mm-hmm.
Um, it is a ritual, like the wayyou do it.
Yeah.
What you need to do to preparefor it.
And I guess, I guess that's myanswer.
I've had many insights today.
I love that.
I love that too.
Yeah.
Uh, Julia, thank you so much forcoming on.
Oh yeah.
It was such a true delight tohave here, honestly.
I thank you.

(01:24:25):
So grateful.
Thank you.
I'm truly honored to be here.
This was so fun.
I've never felt more at home.
Yay.
Talking about very vulnerablethings to a lot of people.
Before 12,000.
12,000 listeners we're outalready, so.
Oh, wow.
Hi guys.
We're well.
This is Vince Boda.

(01:24:46):
Woo.
Stay well.
Stay sane.
Love you.
Bye bye.

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