May 28, 2025 • 152 mins
We're shaking things up as Fatima interviews the interviewer, diving into the origins of Stitcher Truth and exploring why creating platforms for overlooked artists matters so deeply.
• Creating a platform for truth artists, poets, and holistic practitioners who lack visibility
• The importance of being uncensored and unfiltered in sharing authentic perspectives
• Why supporting others who don't reciprocate becomes exhausting over time
• How professional presentation affects credibility, especially for small creators
• The distinction between cultural identity and religious practices in spiritual movements
• Building communities that allow for authentic expression without forcing conformity
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What up, bro?
What's going on?
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm here and we spitting that what you supposed
to follow up, bro, follow up,come on.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We spitting that, what we spitting that what we
spitting that truth Definitely.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We spitting that what .
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We spitting that truth.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's good with everybody how y'all doing today.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man, this is a special one today.
Well, all of them are prettyspecial to me, but you know,
today I'm going to get theinterview going.
My co-host, fatima.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Fatima Is going to Interview the interviewer,
fatima.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Fatima Is going to Interview the interviewer and we
about to get down To the truthof the matter.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And we spitting it all the way.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You gotta say it with the F Truth.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Truth, right, truth.
I'ma spell it.
That's why I'ma spell it withthe TF, with the PF.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Okay With the truth.
Okay Cause when you sayingtruth, it may be some little
lies in there.
Come.
I'm gonna spell it with the T-F, with the P-F.
Okay With the truth, right?
Okay, cause when you sayingtruth, it may be some little
lies in there.
Come on, but you can say truth,right, you know what I'm saying
.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, spit.
That's why I say Spit yourtruth, cause your truth Might
not be the truth, it's just yourtruth.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Spit in your truth and ain't no argument If that's
somebody else's truth.
You know what I'm saying.
Let them go through that.
You know what I'm saying.
See another TH.
You know what I'm saying.
But If it's a truth you knowwhat I'm saying it might not be
for everybody.
With F, you don't an F with mey'all gotta forgive me, man.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm eating dinner and I'm gonna be smacking y'all
ears, so y'all just go ahead anddeal with it well, first
question of the night what youeating some Panda, some Panda
Express.
What Panda Express?
Why?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
you throw that name out of there.
You ain't got this.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, you had Panda Express.
So what?
What you got from Panda Express, that's gone unless they paying
for a commercial.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Panda Express.
Okay, I just get the noodlesand the vegetables.
I don't do the meat.
I don't really eat meat orchicken like that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So so what kind of vegetables?
You're being very truth, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They got the.
Yeah, everybody knows thevegetables that you can get from
Panda Express.
All right, buddy, come on thebroccoli and all that good stuff
like that.
It's like a little mixture.
I think you got like eitherthat shit is seaweed or it's
just like spinach or somethinglike that.
It's like a little mixture.
I think he got like either thatshit is seaweed or it's just
like spinach or something likethat.
Yeah, it's pretty alright.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, everybody knows .
But their portions is small.
That's why they ain't in thehood.
Somebody in the hood would havefought them.
Their portions is small.
For the money they ask forthey're very.
I guess they're portion size.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
They be getting small portions out there In
Cincinnati, man they be.
You can't even damn near closeyour damn thing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh, they don't do that with, nah, not the damn
stuff over here I be like my box.
You know what I'm saying $14.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's like you know me Right.
You go to the hood Chinese youknow what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
$14, that's like you know me right.
If you go to the hood Chinesestore and they give you a pint,
you know you gonna eat mm-hmmsave some for later.
That's a one-hitter quitter, sowe saying that name and it's
okay if you don't know all thenames of the vegetables hey, you
were silly.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, that's what it'd be it's okay.
Yeah, it'd be like thatsometimes just know it's
vegetables leafy greenvegetables it's vegetable.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's it, alright, bro.
So I have a question.
My next question is tell me whyyou decided to start the
Stitcher Truth broadcast orepisodes, or all of the things
that you do with that and themusic.
Tell me why you decided to doit.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, as far as with the podcast, I really wanted to
do something like the highlightyou know, just truth artists and
get people not just truthartists but, like spoken word,
poets, holistic.
I love holistic medicine.
So I got a sister I want tointerview.
(04:40):
I've been getting an interviewbut I know she's probably tired
of me.
I hope she's listening.
I apologize, sister, but I'vebeen trying to get you on and
our schedules don't co-inflictcoincide with you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's another thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, so okay, we're gonna getback to the sister.
I'm gonna make sure I bring herup, but we're gonna stick to
the test.
It's your truth.
So to me, alright, I'm gonnaask, because I think in the
(05:11):
society of cultural you knowwhat I mean black people a lot
of us are are.
I'm looking for a nice word youknow what I'm saying?
They don't really want to be.
They ain't out there.
If you cuss, you cuss.
You know what I'm saying?
That's who you are.
(05:32):
You know what I'm saying.
That's how you know you don'thave no ill intent behind it.
You know it's.
If you calling somebody a bitchyou know what I'm saying it's
to raise her vibration.
You know what I'm saying.
It's to raise her vibration,not really to break her down.
You know what I'm saying.
So sometimes people need to becalled a motherfucker.
Yeah, is that the truth?
(05:53):
That you're allowing people tosee that these so called I don't
know cultural black people thatare holistic or you know, even
if they choose not to cut orwhatever, like are they
relatable to the people?
Like, are they out there beingthat that person that they're
(06:21):
there on social media sayingtheir songs are saying.
are songs they're saying arethese people that can show and
prove they spit in their truth,or do they need a platform to do
that so we could bring back thesystem with the holistic in
there?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think that, you know, a lot of people have a
platform that they can do theirthing and they can, you know,
share their content and spittheir truth.
But I think this podcast isjust another big caveat for the
people that don't have a voice,that don't have a voice, brother
(07:04):
and sister, that don't have adecent following or you know
what I'm saying even anybodylooking at their music or
listening to their music, orlistening to their poetry, or
even wanting to buy their herbsor, you know, even shop with
them.
So this is like a caveat, abridge, so to say, to help,
because you know I'm an underdog.
Like you know I'm an underdog,you know I'm always looked over
(07:27):
and you know, not considered forthings that I know that I'm
well versed at.
Like you know what I'm saying,but you know it's because the
way that I think, the thingsthat I say and what I believe in
it blackballs me.
Because you know people, I'mnot a yes man, I'm not a, I'm
(07:47):
not a, I don't conform to theybullshit.
So with the podcast it is.
That's why it's unfiltered anduncensored.
Like you know, you say what youwant, you get on this money and
say how you feel.
And you know like I telleverybody, if I ask you a
question and it's too personal.
And you know like I telleverybody, if I ask you a
question and it's too personaland you don't want to answer,
(08:08):
just say that.
Right, you know like we can.
We can have safe words if youwant to right safe words.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You know like I don't know if you deleted it, but I
was like hello hi, yeah, youknow what I'm saying like I.
I was in school.
I said to everybody like isthat a thing you did?
I said peace or you know what Imean.
Like, whatever Way I shoot, youknow what I mean, but I totally
get it and I'm with it, Like I.
You know I, I was doing thingsin the business matter Like to
(08:41):
me.
Bro, I appreciate you Right, Isee you.
What you're doing, I love whatyou're doing.
However, I'm going to keep it.
A buck Like this is that's yourtruth, but I see it grander.
Like I see it, Nothing in theway.
Like those people with thesmaller uh accounts, that's not
getting really.
I'm going to keep it 100 withthem if I don't think that, If
(09:05):
somebody can keep it 100 with me, I don't think your video is
hot enough.
Come on, what can we do to makeit better?
I'm going to say that it looksdirty.
Your flyer look dirty when Ibuy herbs from you and I'm
trying to cleanse my body with adirty looking flyer.
You know I buy herbs from youand I'm trying to cleanse my
body with a dirty looking flyerit's too.
You know what I'm saying.
(09:25):
Like I'm gonna keep it ahundred with you so not to break
you down, to lift you up youknow what I'm saying.
It's not like, okay, like I, I Irock with you because I see how
you support what you see, whatyou envision to be grander.
You know what I mean.
Or even if you know what I'msaying, or you deal with a lot
(09:48):
of things.
However, those people like onour platform, like, and
sometimes like I told you, bro,like I ain't been on social
media but I support people.
You know what I'm saying.
I say, hey, we can worktogether.
I got this many followers Like,and if we share in each other's
stuff or you people, you knowwhat I'm saying.
I say, hey, we could worktogether.
I got this many followers like,and if we sharing each other's
(10:09):
stuff or you know what I mean atleast once a day or once a week
like, because I do want to putmy stuff out there.
If I'm sharing your stuff oncea week, you can share mine, or
you know what I'm saying, orwhatever.
You advertise me to people thatyou know, or whatever.
Or share my video.
I got and an advocate, but wegonna do this together.
Are we gonna meet up?
You know what I mean?
What Like, I don't want noexcuses because you don't have
(10:29):
no excuses when you gotta get up, you may have some excuses.
When you gotta get up and go toa job not working for yourself,
you might make excuses, but youstill do it.
You be on time and you comehome and complain.
So if somebody is willing tohelp you on another level, and
that's where I'll be at with it,like I don't care about helping
(10:51):
somebody putting their stuff on.
But if I'm trying to make moneyand this is me like, and you got
products, I can advertise yourproduct on my stuff or send me
$10.
What's wrong with that?
You're selling a business, butyou're thinking it's about me.
You ain't even seeing yourselfin another level.
(11:11):
So would I really want to rockwith you?
Whether I say you're my brotheror my sister, I'm still it's
business and I'm trying to raiseyou too.
So I gotta be honest.
If you think you're gonna takethis dirty bag, you won't.
You won't even come to me to doyour design.
I'm I'm charging you a 200, 300and I ain't saying your stuff
(11:34):
ain't worth that.
But if you see somebody ain'tgot it like that, be like oh bro
, just give me 20, or this ishow we can work this out right
get me two more people.
I created a design for them andwe even man anything.
You know what I'm saying.
So to me, when you say, yeah,this is a small, but they gotta
(11:56):
think bigger, it ain't comingwith an ego, because I am.
I work with my ego too.
That's how I know how to pushit down and balance it.
You need a little bit of ego.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Right and you know what, Sis, I'm going to just be
real, since this is the spit,your truth, and I haven't got to
say how I truly feel, and Ihope everybody that you know
that I'm talking about.
I hope everybody that you knowthat that I'm talking about.
I'm just going to be real.
Everybody that I'm talkingabout.
I hope you're listening.
You know I'm done supportingNegroes that don't support me.
(12:34):
I'm done.
I'm done stretching, puttingmyself out there and being and
wanting to help and saying, hey,I will help, I am, I'm here to
help.
I'm done with that, becauseevery time I did it, I got burnt
.
I got burnt, and it was by these.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know what Hold on .
Hold on.
Can I say this Okay, I'm sorry,Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It was by the so-called Hebrew Israelites.
Yes, I said it, it was by a lotof you niggas that when I show
love, love wouldn't show back.
For instance, I helped, I donehelped people out, I done did
(13:16):
things for people and then, justbecause what I believe in is
different from what they believein, they turn puss on me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know what I'm saying, but they was waiting to
do that.
Anyway, bro, let me just sayhow great you is.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, they was waiting to do that, I'm right.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And I said it in a little bit, not how great you
are, how great you is, muslimbrothers.
I came to a Hebrew-Israelitebrother Brother.
I was to a Hebrew Israelitebrother brother.
I was in the house.
So yeah, every time I'm gonnashow up, I'm gonna make sure you
good, I don't gotta, I don'tgotta be like how you are.
(13:52):
Right.
To the team.
You want me to be a robot.
This is how I was made.
You never looked at me likethat Like, and I keep it up.
Right.
You keep it up Like, and when Ibe in between, like bro, I love
you, I appreciate you, I reallymean it, and I might not have
(14:14):
the time to be on your pagesharing all the time, but I get
to it.
That's why, when you said, sis,come in, come in, come in, I do
an interview for me, I said I'mgonna make a way.
I put something else on hold tobe here today I appreciate that
(14:34):
because I know how you and Isee what you you have.
You got a diamond in the rushand all you gotta do is take the
.
You you got to apply thepressure Right, and that's what
you're doing, and you're doingit in your own way.
So they was waiting.
Yeah, they was waiting.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, they was.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They really say they are because you say you walk in
peace, you walk around, sayshalom Peace.
Do you know?
That's the absence of confusion.
There ain't no confusion inwhat I believe, because this is
me the absence.
Why are you confused about howI worship?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
What that got to do with you.
What that got to do with you.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That ain't got nothing to do with you.
What's that got to do with you,ass?
That ain't got nothing to dowith you.
But you want to put that soundlike the devil to me.
That don't sound like.
No God, no peace.
How is it going to be peacefulfor me to perform and be you?
Hello, do you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
yeah, I had to mute myself because I hit that.
I hit that.
It went down the right pipe andat the right time.
So, yeah, yeah, I had.
Yeah, I'm gonna say this likeI've walked, I have I've been in
a lot of, a lot of differentwalks of life.
I've been, I've I've I've didwith, with and died with in a
(16:06):
lot of different spiritualities,and I can say that this, this
spirituality that I'm in now, itfeels, it feels like home, and
but the thing of it is is thatit and I, I told her I was, I
had an interview the other dayand it was a, you know, a
brother, and I was like man.
(16:26):
You know, being a HebrewIsraelite is a religion, I said
an Israelite, being an Israeliteis a part of the bloodline.
But if you look at the lastpast 10 years of what was going
on I'm going to get even deeperwith it too, though, but hold on
.
So if you look at the last 10years of what's been going on
(16:50):
with this whole Hebrew Israelitemovement, the Black Hebrew
Israelite movement, all you see,if you type in right now on
Google Hebrew Israelite, you gosee some nigga on the damn
corner dressed up in some oldmilitary.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Nah what's?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
the, the dude, I am the master right right looking
like show enough and then youknow screaming at some white man
talking about some you, thedevil, and this and this and
that and I'm like, but thatain't what I want to be.
You know, that ain't what Iwant to be, like a part of, like
I don't want to be associatedwith that.
So how does one disassociatethey self from the Hebrew
(17:32):
Israelite religion?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
because yes, it is a religion.
You know what?
Why I started laughing isbecause to me, when you say
Israelite, that's a people,that's not a religion?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
yeah, it's not.
It's a bloodline of people.
Yeah, that's a people, that'snot a religion.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's not.
It's a bloodline of people,it's a people.
What people make is let's breakdown the word religion.
Religion is a Latin.
It comes from a Latin word.
Excuse me, the Latin word isreligare, meaning to return to
(18:07):
the flesh.
Mm.
Ligament.
You see, religare, you know,return, lega liga, ligare.
So return to the red.
Really, if we break it downfurther than Latin, because
Latin came from somewhere elsetoo, uh-huh, and we talking
about the sun, Return to thepeople of the sun Ain't got
(18:31):
nothing to do with getting upevery day wearing a garment,
First of all, it ain't gotnothing to do, and you do have
to wear certain things and stayaway from certain things that
you can't do updating.
You do have to because we arepeople of the sun, things that
grow under the sun, relatable tothe sun.
(18:54):
That's why you wear the tasselson each side, these children of
the sun.
East, north, east, south, west,you feel me so I understand.
You know what I mean the coupleyou know I don't want to talk to
.
No, like I said, dirty, youlook dirty bro right, right you
can say all the truth that youwant to say.
(19:15):
You look dusty on the corneryeah with these dusty signs.
You don't even look wealthy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You talk about you come from king, you look and
that's the crazy part, sis, isthat you know my brother Bass
down at St Pete and IFC.
They get on the corner and theybe looking fresh, they, fresh.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh, I ain't see them now.
I'm talking about the Dirt.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, they don't be yelling and cussing, and black,
white men.
They don't do all that.
They just read the script.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
What I'm saying is okay and that's the stuff.
But sometimes everybody has aseason like everybody got their
own way to get to where theyneed to be, Right, right, Some
people might be drawn to that.
So I wasn't drawn to thebrothers on the corner looking
dusty.
I was growing to sit basicallyon the corner in front of the
(20:10):
post office doing their thing.
I used to sit in the bus stopand listen because I understood
what they were saying.
There's no judgment of whatthey were saying and calling
people out.
I like that.
They about that life, I likethat.
Brother shalom, you know what Imean.
Hey, yeah, yeah, you look goodtoo.
Look at that beard, Ha yousilly.
(20:33):
Look at them, braids, come herehoney.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And see they are good for certain reasons.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
If they was dusty, I'd say, okay, I can wash them
up, I can make some outfits foreverybody.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, but they good, they serve a purpose.
They are good for entry-levelpeople that come into this and
with the entry-level and want toknow they just base information
.
After you get you grow pastthese classes, you start to
understand that they justteaching the same shit over and
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think that for the people that ain't never had
nobody to listen for, like theygot a little brother.
It's another vibe I get fromthem too.
They're not disrespectful.
You know what I'm saying.
It's a women, they love a womanand they say different stuff.
Or even if they need people,need women, sometimes need a man
(21:26):
To say you look like a whore.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, I agree with that and he fine.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Put on some clothes.
You're the kind of woman that Iwould marry, but look at you.
That's not for everybody.
I'm not just saying Knock herdown, lift her up.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, lift her up, right Look not the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So I'm not just saying knock her down, lift her
up, look not the wrong thing, uh, uh.
So I'm saying I like that, Ilike that.
I'm telling you I'm sorry ifI'm over taking, but like when I
grew up, my father, I say myfather do things.
I hear stories about my fatherdoing things.
They built the mob right, brickand mortar by their own hands
they built it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
They're stories about my father doing things.
They built the mosque Right.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Brick and mortar by their own hands.
They built it.
They got the where they boughtthe mosque.
It was a holster.
When men used to pull up forthe women, the brothers would
come out F-O-I and lift the carand take it up the street.
Damn.
Lift it.
So they stopped coming up thereand that made the women that
(22:32):
was prostitutes what Takingtheir shahada become a Muslim
NGT.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right, they see them, motherfuckers getting like oh
yeah, brothers that hadbusinesses.
Right, yeah, and that's whatmakes any movement appealing
when you see the people of themovement coming up and they
prospering, that's what makesany movement appealing.
That's why the Black Pantherswere so appealing, because they
(22:59):
had they controlled.
What up, bro?
What's going on?
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm here and we spitting that what you supposed
to follow up, bro, follow up,come on.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We spitting that, what we spitting that what we
spitting that truth Definitely.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We spitting that what .
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We spitting that truth.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's good with everybody how y'all doing today.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Man, this is a special one today.
Well, all of them are prettyspecial to me, but you know,
today I'm going to get theinterview going.
My co-host, fatima.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Fatima Is going to Interview the interviewer,
fatima.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Fatima Is going to Interview the interviewer and we
about to get down To the truthof the matter.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And we spitting it all the way.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You gotta say it with the F Truth.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Truth, right, truth.
I'ma spell it.
That's why I'ma spell it withthe TF, with the PF.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Okay With the truth.
Okay Cause when you sayingtruth, it may be some little
lies in there.
Come.
I'm gonna spell it with the T-F, with the P-F.
Okay With the truth, right?
Okay, cause when you sayingtruth, it may be some little
lies in there.
Come on, but you can say truth,right, you know what I'm saying
.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, spit.
That's why I say Spit yourtruth, cause your truth Might
not be the truth, it's just yourtruth.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Spit in your truth and ain't no argument If that's
somebody else's truth.
You know what I'm saying.
Let them go through that.
You know what I'm saying.
See another TH.
You know what I'm saying.
But If it's a truth you knowwhat I'm saying it might not be
for everybody.
With F, you don't an F with mey'all gotta forgive me, man.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm eating dinner and I'm gonna be smacking y'all
ears, so y'all just go ahead anddeal with it well, first
question of the night what youeating some Panda, some Panda
Express.
What Panda Express?
Why?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
you throw that name out of there.
You ain't got this.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, you had Panda Express.
So what?
What you got from Panda Express, that's gone unless they paying
for a commercial.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Panda Express.
Okay, I just get the noodlesand the vegetables.
I don't do the meat.
I don't really eat meat orchicken like that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So so what kind of vegetables?
You're being very truth, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
They got the.
Yeah, everybody knows thevegetables that you can get from
Panda Express.
All right, buddy, come on thebroccoli and all that good stuff
like that.
It's like a little mixture.
I think you got like eitherthat shit is seaweed or it's
just like spinach or somethinglike that.
It's like a little mixture.
I think he got like either thatshit is seaweed or it's just
like spinach or something likethat.
Yeah, it's pretty alright.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, everybody knows .
But their portions is small.
That's why they ain't in thehood.
Somebody in the hood would havefought them.
Their portions is small.
For the money they ask forthey're very.
I guess they're portion size.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
They be getting small portions out there In
Cincinnati, man they be.
You can't even damn near closeyour damn thing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Oh, they don't do that with, nah, not the damn
stuff over here I be like my box.
You know what I'm saying $14.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That's like you know me Right.
You go to the hood Chinese youknow what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
$14, that's like you know me right.
If you go to the hood Chinesestore and they give you a pint,
you know you gonna eat mm-hmmsave some for later.
That's a one-hitter quitter, sowe saying that name and it's
okay if you don't know all thenames of the vegetables hey, you
were silly.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Hey, that's what it'd be it's okay.
Yeah, it'd be like thatsometimes just know it's
vegetables leafy greenvegetables it's vegetable.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's it, alright, bro.
So I have a question.
My next question is tell me whyyou decided to start the
Stitcher Truth broadcast orepisodes, or all of the things
that you do with that and themusic.
Tell me why you decided to doit.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, as far as with the podcast, I really wanted to
do something like the highlightyou know, just truth artists and
get people not just truthartists but, like spoken word,
poets, holistic.
I love holistic medicine.
So I got a sister I want tointerview.
(04:40):
I've been getting an interviewbut I know she's probably tired
of me.
I hope she's listening.
I apologize, sister, but I'vebeen trying to get you on and
our schedules don't co-inflictcoincide with you.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's another thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, so okay, we're gonna getback to the sister.
I'm gonna make sure I bring herup, but we're gonna stick to
the test.
It's your truth.
So to me, alright, I'm gonnaask, because I think in the
(05:11):
society of cultural you knowwhat I mean black people a lot
of us are are.
I'm looking for a nice word youknow what I'm saying?
They don't really want to be.
They ain't out there.
If you cuss, you cuss.
You know what I'm saying?
That's who you are.
(05:32):
You know what I'm saying.
That's how you know you don'thave no ill intent behind it.
You know it's.
If you calling somebody a bitchyou know what I'm saying it's
to raise her vibration.
You know what I'm saying.
It's to raise her vibration,not really to break her down.
You know what I'm saying.
So sometimes people need to becalled a motherfucker.
Yeah, is that the truth?
(05:53):
That you're allowing people tosee that these so called I don't
know cultural black people thatare holistic or you know, even
if they choose not to cut orwhatever, like are they
relatable to the people?
Like, are they out there beingthat that person that they're
(06:21):
there on social media sayingtheir songs are saying.
are songs they're saying arethese people that can show and
prove they spit in their truth,or do they need a platform to do
that so we could bring back thesystem with the holistic in
there?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think that, you know, a lot of people have a
platform that they can do theirthing and they can, you know,
share their content and spittheir truth.
But I think this podcast isjust another big caveat for the
people that don't have a voice,that don't have a voice, brother
(07:04):
and sister, that don't have adecent following or you know
what I'm saying even anybodylooking at their music or
listening to their music, orlistening to their poetry, or
even wanting to buy their herbsor, you know, even shop with
them.
So this is like a caveat, abridge, so to say, to help,
because you know I'm an underdog.
Like you know I'm an underdog,you know I'm always looked over
(07:27):
and you know, not considered forthings that I know that I'm
well versed at.
Like you know what I'm saying,but you know it's because the
way that I think, the thingsthat I say and what I believe in
it blackballs me.
Because you know people, I'mnot a yes man, I'm not a, I'm
(07:47):
not a, I don't conform to theybullshit.
So with the podcast it is.
That's why it's unfiltered anduncensored.
Like you know, you say what youwant, you get on this money and
say how you feel.
And you know like I telleverybody, if I ask you a
question and it's too personal.
And you know like I telleverybody, if I ask you a
question and it's too personaland you don't want to answer,
(08:08):
just say that.
Right, you know like we can.
We can have safe words if youwant to right safe words.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You know like I don't know if you deleted it, but I
was like hello hi, yeah, youknow what I'm saying like I.
I was in school.
I said to everybody like isthat a thing you did?
I said peace or you know what Imean.
Like, whatever Way I shoot, youknow what I mean, but I totally
get it and I'm with it, Like I.
You know I, I was doing thingsin the business matter Like to
(08:41):
me.
Bro, I appreciate you Right, Isee you.
What you're doing, I love whatyou're doing.
However, I'm going to keep it.
A buck Like this is that's yourtruth, but I see it grander.
Like I see it, Nothing in theway.
Like those people with thesmaller uh accounts, that's not
getting really.
I'm going to keep it 100 withthem if I don't think that, If
(09:05):
somebody can keep it 100 with me, I don't think your video is
hot enough.
Come on, what can we do to makeit better?
I'm going to say that it looksdirty.
Your flyer look dirty when Ibuy herbs from you and I'm
trying to cleanse my body with adirty looking flyer.
You know I buy herbs from youand I'm trying to cleanse my
body with a dirty looking flyerit's too.
You know what I'm saying.
(09:25):
Like I'm gonna keep it ahundred with you so not to break
you down, to lift you up youknow what I'm saying.
It's not like, okay, like I, I Irock with you because I see how
you support what you see, whatyou envision to be grander.
You know what I mean.
Or even if you know what I'msaying, or you deal with a lot
(09:48):
of things.
However, those people like onour platform, like, and
sometimes like I told you, bro,like I ain't been on social
media but I support people.
You know what I'm saying.
I say, hey, we can worktogether.
I got this many followers Like,and if we share in each other's
stuff or you people, you knowwhat I'm saying.
I say, hey, we could worktogether.
I got this many followers like,and if we sharing each other's
(10:09):
stuff or you know what I mean atleast once a day or once a week
like, because I do want to putmy stuff out there.
If I'm sharing your stuff oncea week, you can share mine, or
you know what I'm saying, orwhatever.
You advertise me to people thatyou know, or whatever.
Or share my video.
I got and an advocate, but wegonna do this together.
Are we gonna meet up?
You know what I mean?
What Like, I don't want noexcuses because you don't have
(10:29):
no excuses when you gotta get up, you may have some excuses.
When you gotta get up and go toa job not working for yourself,
you might make excuses, but youstill do it.
You be on time and you comehome and complain.
So if somebody is willing tohelp you on another level, and
that's where I'll be at with it,like I don't care about helping
(10:51):
somebody putting their stuff on.
But if I'm trying to make moneyand this is me like, and you got
products, I can advertise yourproduct on my stuff or send me
$10.
What's wrong with that?
You're selling a business, butyou're thinking it's about me.
You ain't even seeing yourselfin another level.
(11:11):
So would I really want to rockwith you?
Whether I say you're my brotheror my sister, I'm still it's
business and I'm trying to raiseyou too.
So I gotta be honest.
If you think you're gonna takethis dirty bag, you won't.
You won't even come to me to doyour design.
I'm I'm charging you a 200, 300and I ain't saying your stuff
(11:34):
ain't worth that.
But if you see somebody ain'tgot it like that, be like oh bro
, just give me 20, or this ishow we can work this out right
get me two more people.
I created a design for them andwe even man anything.
You know what I'm saying.
So to me, when you say, yeah,this is a small, but they gotta
(11:56):
think bigger, it ain't comingwith an ego, because I am.
I work with my ego too.
That's how I know how to pushit down and balance it.
You need a little bit of ego.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Right and you know what, Sis, I'm going to just be
real, since this is the spit,your truth, and I haven't got to
say how I truly feel, and Ihope everybody that you know
that I'm talking about.
I hope everybody that you knowthat that I'm talking about.
I'm just going to be real.
Everybody that I'm talkingabout.
I hope you're listening.
You know I'm done supportingNegroes that don't support me.
(12:34):
I'm done.
I'm done stretching, puttingmyself out there and being and
wanting to help and saying, hey,I will help, I am, I'm here to
help.
I'm done with that, becauseevery time I did it, I got burnt
.
I got burnt, and it was by these.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know what Hold on .
Hold on.
Can I say this Okay, I'm sorry,Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It was by the so-called Hebrew Israelites.
Yes, I said it, it was by a lotof you niggas that when I show
love, love wouldn't show back.
For instance, I helped, I donehelped people out, I done did
(13:16):
things for people and then, justbecause what I believe in is
different from what they believein, they turn puss on me.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know what I'm saying, but they was waiting to
do that.
Anyway, bro, let me just sayhow great you is.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, they was waiting to do that, I'm right.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And I said it in a little bit, not how great you
are, how great you is, muslimbrothers.
I came to a Hebrew-Israelitebrother Brother.
I was to a Hebrew Israelitebrother brother.
I was in the house.
So yeah, every time I'm gonnashow up, I'm gonna make sure you
good, I don't gotta, I don'tgotta be like how you are.
(13:52):
Right.
To the team.
You want me to be a robot.
This is how I was made.
You never looked at me likethat Like, and I keep it up.
Right.
You keep it up Like, and when Ibe in between, like bro, I love
you, I appreciate you, I reallymean it, and I might not have
(14:14):
the time to be on your pagesharing all the time, but I get
to it.
That's why, when you said, sis,come in, come in, come in, I do
an interview for me, I said I'mgonna make a way.
I put something else on hold tobe here today I appreciate that
(14:34):
because I know how you and Isee what you you have.
You got a diamond in the rushand all you gotta do is take the
.
You you got to apply thepressure Right, and that's what
you're doing, and you're doingit in your own way.
So they was waiting.
Yeah, they was waiting.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, they was.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They really say they are because you say you walk in
peace, you walk around, sayshalom Peace.
Do you know?
That's the absence of confusion.
There ain't no confusion inwhat I believe, because this is
me the absence.
Why are you confused about howI worship?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
What that got to do with you.
What that got to do with you.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That ain't got nothing to do with you.
What's that got to do with you,ass?
That ain't got nothing to dowith you.
But you want to put that soundlike the devil to me.
That don't sound like.
No God, no peace.
How is it going to be peacefulfor me to perform and be you?
Hello, do you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
yeah, I had to mute myself because I hit that.
I hit that.
It went down the right pipe andat the right time.
So, yeah, yeah, I had.
Yeah, I'm gonna say this likeI've walked, I have I've been in
a lot of, a lot of differentwalks of life.
I've been, I've I've I've didwith, with and died with in a
(16:06):
lot of different spiritualities,and I can say that this, this
spirituality that I'm in now, itfeels, it feels like home, and
but the thing of it is is thatit and I, I told her I was, I
had an interview the other dayand it was a, you know, a
brother, and I was like man.
(16:26):
You know, being a HebrewIsraelite is a religion, I said
an Israelite, being an Israeliteis a part of the bloodline.
But if you look at the lastpast 10 years of what was going
on I'm going to get even deeperwith it too, though, but hold on
.
So if you look at the last 10years of what's been going on
(16:50):
with this whole Hebrew Israelitemovement, the Black Hebrew
Israelite movement, all you see,if you type in right now on
Google Hebrew Israelite, you gosee some nigga on the damn
corner dressed up in some oldmilitary.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Nah what's?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
the, the dude, I am the master right right looking
like show enough and then youknow screaming at some white man
talking about some you, thedevil, and this and this and
that and I'm like, but thatain't what I want to be.
You know, that ain't what Iwant to be, like a part of, like
I don't want to be associatedwith that.
So how does one disassociatethey self from the Hebrew
(17:32):
Israelite religion?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
because yes, it is a religion.
You know what?
Why I started laughing isbecause to me, when you say
Israelite, that's a people,that's not a religion?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
yeah, it's not.
It's a bloodline of people.
Yeah, that's a people, that'snot a religion.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's not.
It's a bloodline of people,it's a people.
What people make is let's breakdown the word religion.
Religion is a Latin.
It comes from a Latin word.
Excuse me, the Latin word isreligare, meaning to return to
(18:07):
the flesh.
Mm.
Ligament.
You see, religare, you know,return, lega liga, ligare.
So return to the red.
Really, if we break it downfurther than Latin, because
Latin came from somewhere elsetoo, uh-huh, and we talking
about the sun, Return to thepeople of the sun Ain't got
(18:31):
nothing to do with getting upevery day wearing a garment,
First of all, it ain't gotnothing to do, and you do have
to wear certain things and stayaway from certain things that
you can't do updating.
You do have to because we arepeople of the sun, things that
grow under the sun, relatable tothe sun.
(18:54):
That's why you wear the tasselson each side, these children of
the sun.
East, north, east, south, west,you feel me so I understand.
You know what I mean the coupleyou know I don't want to talk to
.
No, like I said, dirty, youlook dirty bro right, right you
can say all the truth that youwant to say.
(19:15):
You look dusty on the corneryeah with these dusty signs.
You don't even look wealthy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
You talk about you come from king, you look and
that's the crazy part, sis, isthat you know my brother Bass
down at St Pete and IFC.
They get on the corner and theybe looking fresh, they, fresh.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh, I ain't see them now.
I'm talking about the Dirt.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, they don't be yelling and cussing, and black,
white men.
They don't do all that.
They just read the script.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
What I'm saying is okay and that's the stuff.
But sometimes everybody has aseason like everybody got their
own way to get to where theyneed to be, Right, right, Some
people might be drawn to that.
So I wasn't drawn to thebrothers on the corner looking
dusty.
I was growing to sit basicallyon the corner in front of the
(20:10):
post office doing their thing.
I used to sit in the bus stopand listen because I understood
what they were saying.
There's no judgment of whatthey were saying and calling
people out.
I like that.
They about that life, I likethat.
Brother shalom, you know what Imean.
Hey, yeah, yeah, you look goodtoo.
Look at that beard, Ha yousilly.
(20:33):
Look at them, braids, come herehoney.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And see they are good for certain reasons.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
If they was dusty, I'd say, okay, I can wash them
up, I can make some outfits foreverybody.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, but they good, they serve a purpose.
They are good for entry-levelpeople that come into this and
with the entry-level and want toknow they just base information
.
After you get you grow pastthese classes, you start to
understand that they justteaching the same shit over and
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think that for the people that ain't never had
nobody to listen for, like theygot a little brother.
It's another vibe I get fromthem too.
They're not disrespectful.
You know what I'm saying.
It's a women, they love a womanand they say different stuff.
Or even if they need people,need women, sometimes need a man
(21:26):
To say you look like a whore.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, I agree with that and he fine.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Put on some clothes.
You're the kind of woman that Iwould marry, but look at you.
That's not for everybody.
I'm not just saying Knock herdown, lift her up.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, lift her up, right Look not the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So I'm not just saying knock her down, lift her
up, look not the wrong thing, uh, uh.
So I'm saying I like that, Ilike that.
I'm telling you I'm sorry ifI'm over taking, but like when I
grew up, my father, I say myfather do things.
I hear stories about my fatherdoing things.
They built the mob right, brickand mortar by their own hands
they built it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
They're stories about my father doing things.
They built the mosque Right.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Brick and mortar by their own hands.
They built it.
They got the where they boughtthe mosque.
It was a holster.
When men used to pull up forthe women, the brothers would
come out F-O-I and lift the carand take it up the street.
Damn.
Lift it.
So they stopped coming up thereand that made the women that
(22:32):
was prostitutes what Takingtheir shahada become a Muslim
NGT.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Right, they see them, motherfuckers getting like oh
yeah, brothers that hadbusinesses.
Right, yeah, and that's whatmakes any movement appealing
when you see the people of themovement coming up and they
prospering, that's what makesany movement appealing.
That's why the Black Pantherswere so appealing, because they
(22:59):
had they controlled.
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