Ep 20 Seeking the Most High: Beyond Garments and Street Corners

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
this is the spit, your truth podcast what's going
on everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
hey, we are back.
I think I think we back, Ithink I'm not sure.
Y'all for real, like I'm reallyjust like.
I kind of like I'm having a daytoday, for real, I ain't gonna
lie y'all.
So Buckle in man we about tobuild.
It's your boy, abia.
It's your boy, abia.

(00:29):
And my sister, my co-host, thehost.
She's one half of the host ofSpeak To Podcast Myself and the
most high in this podcast.
Hey you already know.
Okay, hey, you already know.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Okay, y'all already know, but we having a date, but
we gonna talk it out.
And I was like hey, hey, hey,cut you off right, because your
whole energy changed.
You was trying to figure thingsout.
You know, get the recordingtogether so we could do what we
do.
And I was sitting here chillingin peace hey, can do what we do
.
And I was sitting here chillingin peace, thinking whole five
like hey, it's gonna do it.

(01:09):
It changed up and I'm grateful.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hey, you know what man Sometimes, like you gotta
take, like they say, you knowyou gotta take the good with the
bad and keep gambling and youknow, just always try to.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know, turn sugar out of it turn lemonade out of
everything and that's why yougot to put that whole trust in
the most high real tall.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Tall, real tall.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
The whole trust blindly.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
The whole trust y'all .

Speaker 3 (01:37):
This is going to work out how it's supposed to work
out Facts.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Facts Right.
This is going to work out inhis favor in his way in his time
, joe trusting the most.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
how y'all but we gotta add, we gotta add, we say
his right, right.
We the image and the reflectionand the likeness of God.
So we got to her in there too.
Some people may be offended bythat, but I'm the reflection of
God and I, but I'm a reflectionof God and I mean I'm masculine
and I'm still in a feminine body.

(02:09):
I'm feminine.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Right, right, right.
It was always a duality to themost high Like.
No, I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's why it's talked about as we Right, we Not
I.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right, so yeah, man sometimes it is I right, just to
just to give you thatsingularity, to let you know
that it ain't no other godaround him or doing the things
that he's doing, but when Iagree, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
But also it is us be the image and reflect.
We gods and our own wereflection of god.
So it's how we vibrate, that isthe reflection that we see.
You may not be on my vibration,right, and that is okay, but I
can see your vibration for yourlevel of love for god, and that

(03:01):
is okay.
The Most High Yahweh, yeshua,jehovah, jesus, a wall or
whatever you see, I see God inyou in your own way.
Who am I to limit God?
You can worship how you choose.
That's what your spirit iscalled to.
Hey, I'm okay with that.

(03:24):
But, don't try to, you know,because they get into the human
side.
That's why we read storiesabout, like the folk tales, or
what is it the mythology of this?
Human perceptions of God?
Human, when you ain't in yourgodly spirit, how you even going

(03:49):
to try to imagine God?
Come on now, stop playing.
Right, right, right.
You could be in the devil'sspirit and think you God.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
What you think the devil is.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
He want to submit to us.
So he's trying to throw us alloff because we, the reflections
and likeness of God, didn't saythat Satan is the reflection and
likeness of God.
It said we, but also the deviltoo.
The devil ain't going to do nomore than the most high.
Allow the devil in.

(04:23):
But sometimes you got to killthe devil inside of you.
You gotta be the angel, yougotta be the.
You know what I'm saying.
But that devil's mad.
That devil's mad because we arethe ones that are promised.
He's promised to end.
He gotta end them days.
So he's trying to keep all ofthose children of the most high

(04:46):
separated, like, however howeveryou.
You can say it's the universe.
I understand your perception ofthe most high being the
universe.
I do the flowers, the bees,that's love, that's that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Definitely.
You know I'm listening, Goahead.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, that's that image of the monochrome.
If you choose to play whateveryou want, it ain't come.
If you ain't listen to thiskind of music, then you ain't
Israelite.
If you ain't come, if you ain'tlisten to this kind of music,
then you ain't Israelite.
If you ain't wearing tassels,you ain't this kind of Israelite
, you ain't you listening towhatever you gospel.

(05:34):
You ain't listening to that,then you ain't Christian.
If you listen to music, youain't Christian.
If you listen to music, youain't a Muslim.
But everything is music.
For I love music too.
Everything.
The wind, the wind, the wind isthe best music you can do.
You can do beautiful things andfeel the love of God, no matter

(06:00):
where you could be.
Talking about making love toyour woman in the song.
Why is that bad if that's myhusband?
Why is that bad if that's theone that I choose to lay with?
Why I can't listen to that?
I can hear God in it.
God created sex.
I can't talk about sex.
I can't have imaginations ofsex.

(06:23):
I don't remember having.
I had sex with Judy because youborn.
So, like you know, we can'thave, we can't.
Everybody got to look at whatthe devil.
Then how are you so worse thanthe devil?
Because you ain't you stillplaying with the heart?
Set apart music radio?

(06:44):
How you living in yourself, howyou not standing in joy all the
time, how you not rejoicing allthe time?
Even in the troubled times Ihad to teach that to myself.
My sister passed away.
I got up and started dancing,not that I wasn't sad.
I took that sadness and made itsomething else.

(07:05):
Why you people was upset?
Oh, she making TikTok videos.
Her sister died, her niecestill died.
Would you want me to be sad inthe place you think I'm?
If you really believe whatyou're saying, then you know
that she in a good place and shea good person.
So why I gotta be sad?

(07:28):
I should be happy.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
But you know, but you know that's why you're doing
what you do, Like you, everybodyyou know.
You know some people usefemales as an attention seeker.
Oh yeah, a seeker.
My, my, my, my.
This person passed as aattention seeker.
Oh yeah, a seeker, my, thisperson passed and just keep
talking about it.
I had a baby pass in my arms.

(07:53):
I don't bring it up.
So people, I don't say I don'tbring it up to make people feel
sorry for me.
I say that to show other peoplethat they can keep going too

(08:18):
when you fully trust the mosthigh.
Would you rather have me drunkand giving me a liquor?
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that right Idon't want to do that.
You'll give me that, but youdon't want you.
So I can get over my sadness.
You're giving me a spirit thatlowers my spirit.
Why?
But also, I ain't knocking ittoo, because jesus don't want it

(08:43):
right and that was the realdeal, not this stuff.
Now, that was the real deal.
Do you imagine the one?
No, you know what I'm saying,so I'm not writing it either.
But we, we don't have that lovethat we say we had.
We, we weren't controlled.
So we're going to get ontoday's topic.

(09:04):
Today's topic is what, bro?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
So hold on hold on, keep on spitting your truth.
Keep on spitting your truth,hold on hold on.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
No, we're going to talk about today's topic, but
this is yeah, we ain't even saythat, we ain't even get that in.
Welcome to Spit your Truth.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I just went in.
Oh no, yeah, I got it in and wego, we definitely go do what we
do.
So you know, yeah, she had, shehad to, you know, get something
off her chest.
She had to get something offher chest, y'all.
So I'll pray to the most no, noI know it wasn't no feelings.
I'm just saying like it was justsomething that was burning in

(09:47):
your spirit that you had to say.
So you say it and I'll juststep back and let you do what
you do.
All right, I already knowthat's what we do on Spit your
Truth Podcast man.
We spit our truth and this isyour host, abiyah, and your
other host, fatima Madi.
We own this mug about to spitour truth.
And today's topic, y'all,today's topic is the street

(10:11):
Hebrew Israelites, the teachingIs it beneficial to what's going
on in our nation?
Do we need them or what's goingon?
We about to just talk aboutthis and give y'all our
perspectives.
And you know, if you feel sometype of way, then you know,
always, comment, call in orwhatever.

(10:33):
We can, we'll dispute it, we'll.
You know we're not going todispute nothing, but if you feel
any type of way about what wesay in this segment right here,
hey, it might be the truth.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I like the little bombs twisted up Like you get it
.
It was like come on.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now you got that surfing energy Like come on.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
So the reason why it's the feeling energy now,
right, right.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So the reason why we are talking about this y'all
because me and the sister wetalked it up earlier today, or I
think it was yesterday, wasn'tit?
You said you had a.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, today I told you real quick.
I was out and about and I heardpreaching and outside and I was
like I hear preaching.
I said it to the sister.
She said yeah, the church downthere she was like nah, that

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ain't the.
So then we rolled around thecorner and it was Hebrew
Israelites brothers.
They was dressed in t-shirtsand jeans, not in the little the
other outfits I'm going to sayI don't know what they call.
They look like the YMCA outfit.

(11:50):
Oh, why?
Right, you know, kind of likejam.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, they call them.
They call them garments.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
They call them garments.
You know I'm not trying to be,you know, but it wasn't, and
they were peaceful.
Then we rolled down the street.
It was another group ofbrothers down the street and I
think that's dope.
Because, whatever their love isright, right.
However, they choose All thesepeople that talk this stuff on

(12:19):
social media, they outside,doing it Whatever, even if you
don't agree with them standingoutside, you know, and they, you
know speaking, and you knowwhat I'm saying.
I, I don't feel that they arewrong.
I I feel like that's a a goodthing, especially if they're not
all crazy, because sometimes,in my opinion, the black man

(12:41):
needs to act a little strange.
He needs to show people hisstrength.
You seen all these videos withum, these men disrespecting
women, black women you know what?
I'm saying, and this is a trend,it's like so much so that

(13:03):
people are justifying it.
And I'm gonna say this Iwatched the video with the
brothers with, you know, withthe garments right, all right, I
got some things to say.
Y'all need some woman love,some real woman love.
You know what I mean?
The video brother.
He called the woman a bitch.

(13:24):
He found his proof in theProverbs.
You know why he was calling hera bitch based on her behaviors.
He was spitting some truth.
He was like you're mad, but hewent a little too far.
You know what I mean.
He had a Jamaican accent, youknow what I mean.
And I said you don't understanda woman in these lands.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
And he just went straight in and he told her baby
daddy, that's why she you don'tthink that you're abusing her.
But sometimes our women need tohear that.
Right, we need to hear thetruth.
Right, we need to hear from mendon't wear no weave, clean up
your act.
Don't talk sassy but at thesame time it's abusive.

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We're going to go to thescripture and say what was women
created for?
The real, that means she's inthe delicate nature and I
understand that our women is.
Some of a lot of us are out ofthat delicate nature because we
had to be the man and the woman.
Right, we had to be both sides.

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So a lot of children, women,boys, girls don't understand the
duality of masculine andfeminine because the men were
somewhere gone.
But that's why I appreciate thebrothers, the FOY.
I appreciate them back in theday because they made their
presence known.

(14:54):
I appreciate Dr York's Ansel orLaw community because they were
out on the corner giving dollarand bringing people to their
version of peace, their versionof God.
So I'm not knocking it, but ifyou can't get to love and have a
woman stand up, then you be myarmy, because we need to teach

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the woman.
You can't teach me how to be awoman, sir, you never bled in
your life.
But you can teach me from amasculine perception.
But are you mad at your mother?
The same way you preaching tothese women?
Are you preaching to yourmother like that?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think a lot of them are.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I think a lot of them are oh, I know, and some of
them hide their women becauseyou've got the woman that you're
trying to tell these otherwomen not to be.
But sometimes in organizationslike that they clean brothers up
and they do find women, buty'all find a woman.
You got to train honey, getsomebody seasoned to be out
there To talk to these women.

(16:01):
And where's the scripture?
Now you're looking foreverybody else.
They tell me a lot about you.
If you ain't going to have meout here preaching how you going
to teach me how to hold a babyin my womb and finding that in
the scripture and showing youhow blessed it could be, you

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could never understand it.
I don't care if you read thescriptures 25,000 times on your
back, on your head, whatever,you could never teach me how to
be a woman, but I can teach youhow to be a man, because a part
of this monthly cycle that awoman has she's just like you.

(16:42):
She does not have a cycle, shecan't bear life.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I get that.
But see, this is the thing andI get when you say a man can't
teach a woman how to be a man, awoman but I mean, I did say
also that he can teach herbecause he has a masculine
perception of what a womanshould be.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yes, he can teach her .

Speaker 3 (17:06):
And likewise I'm not saying that women cannot learn
from you and you can't learnfrom women.
But it's some things that youwill never, ever understand in a
woman.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And I don't feel that it should be only men out there
.
How are you the only one?
And then, how are you the onlyone?
That's the teacher.
Matter of fact, I'm the firstteacher Because in me is a
mitochondrial DNA that'soriginal, that has all of the
information from your bloodlineand mixed with mine In my womb,

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that was creating its own DNAstance, the emotions you feel,
the higher vibrations that youfeel, the smelling senses, and
everything heightens in you.
There's nothing in you that youcould ever understand that.
This is why they were hidden inthe scripture.
It's not a lot, but it is womenin there, like Deborah.

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She was a judge, she was theleader of an army and through
her intuition, a whole armyfollowed her because they knew
in her the faith of God wasn'tgoing to if she said they was
going to win.
They was going to win becauseGod told her they was going to
win.

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So a lot of us are hidden inthe scripture because we are
that reincarnation of God.
We are the reflection of God,the woman.
But a lot of us ain't on thatvine.
We are.
We are the first one.
We hold on to that first giftmelatonin, the melatonin, the

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melatonin.
All of that.
It's in a woman.
It's in a woman.
I don't want subversion.
Sir God protected me.
It was a woman that birthedChrist.
We won't go there.
It was a woman that birthed you.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
So my thing is with the brothers that do are
teaching on stuff like that, Iget it.
My thing is with the brothersthat that do are teaching on
stuff like that, I get it.
And the biggest thing is thatthey I think a lot of them serve
a purpose.
You know they serve a purposeand the purpose is to you know,

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is to the first initial wake up,the first initial seed that
they plant.
And they plant that seed andit's a seed of curiosity because
if you're a true seeker, if youwant to seek and you are a
sponge to wisdom and knowledgeand you want to know stuff, then

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they plant that seed.
It's going to have you and youare a sponge to wisdom and
knowledge and you want to knowstuff, then you know they, they
plant that seed.
Let's go, let's go how yougoing back, even if you do the
fruit, even if you do like man,I don't believe what they saying
.
I'm about to prove them wrong.
You know I'm saying like it, it, it's a, it serves a purpose
and I get it.
But it's a lot of them on thecorners and I'm going to say

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this it's a lot of them on thecorners and we already know who
y'all are, the ISPUK.
They are just outright, justoutright belligerent, outright,
just off the hook, and they makeus look bad.
They make us look bad, I'mgoing to just say it.

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They make us look bad.
I'm gonna just say it.
And with the association with,when you type in hebrew,
israelite or israelite, and ifyou type in hebrew, israelite,
it'll pop up there.
They'll be the first thing topop up images.
You'll see videos of them.
You might see IUIC, the otherones, but they are more like
they moving in a way where youknow it's like they have so many

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chapters and just people allaround the world and that's a
good thing too.
They serve a purpose too.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
But they're corny too , because the first time I was
in Philly I was downtown andthey used to be on Market Street
in front of the post office.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Who IUC.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, they caught my attention.
Right, I they caught myattention right from the.
What they was?
They were using the biblescriptures and they was getting
into some people like, and theywasn't afraid, and I and they
was like, hey, you, you tell me,you, you know what I'm saying.
Like yeah it caught myattention and the words, they,

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uh, the the verses that theyknew, the backup, what they were
.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, they were studying and Iwas in there and I understood
everything that they were saying.
And nobody gave me like, hey,you want to come here, you need
a ride, this is our classes, oryou know what I'm saying, right?
So I mean, that was, and thisis like they almost I don't know

(22:21):
, I'm fine, and I was covered upor whatever Right, and they got
the kind of woman you want.
I would have had me in the.
You know, I would have.
Hey brother, she's beautiful.
They act like they're going toattract the women, but you
hollering at these women withweeds and all that but when they

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come and it's on your level,you know what I'm saying they
can understand, or maybe youthought I wasn't, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I think that they I'm just saying Say what now.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
They was real loud.
You know I go on my tangent.
They was.
I thought that's just myopinion, I thought it was dope.
I also went to Bay Hexaboutthat's not, that's just uh.
Tabernacle, uh, uh, and youknow everybody come and they, uh

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.
You know they have their uh andthey observe shabbat, and you
know what I mean and it's reallylike passes and you know what I
mean.
But it's a like fascist and youknow what I mean.
But it's a lot of older peoplethat was holding that down.
It wasn't really.
So I be like a spectrum formyself and I just say that stop,

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get some women out there tohelp y'all.
Y'all soldiers, y'all got it.
Ain't nobody gonna come up on.
Ain't nobody walking up ony'all, only y'all.
I think it's dope, like thebrothers, that was outside.
They was on Living Noise Avenuein Detroit and they was out
there.
They didn't seem disrupting andI think it's dope.

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You know you wanna get thepeople that you need.
You know what I'm saying andwhat I would say is keep growing
.
You know what I'm saying, keepgoing and how you.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
You know what I'm saying but y'all need some women
for her, y'all need somebodythat's with the same fire you do
and I think they, I think a lotof them are married, like I
think a lot of them, y'all needsomebody to spit the same fire
you do, and I think they, Ithink a lot of them are married,
like I think a lot of them aremarried, and, and, and you know,
or have multiple wives orwhatever, and I really do think

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that that you can tell that theyare just a little.
Yeah, I get, I get that and butthey, you know, I think it's
more of a safety thing than youknow what I'm saying Like
because think about this, sis,like if some shit pop off, I

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ain't gonna pop off, yeah.
But see, this is the thing andthis is what women don't
understand.
I do understand.
No, no, see, this is the thingand this is what women don't
understand.
I do understand.
Hold on.
Nah, you're not understandingbecause you ain't even heard
what I said.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
We're gonna plan together If things pop off.
This is what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
But this is what I'm saying.
Listen to what I'm saying.
If shit pop off, men ain'ttrying to sit and worry about if
this woman is protected or ifshe's safe.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
We trying to worry about.
Hold on sis, hold on, hold onsis, we're worried about.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
We're worried about.
We're worried about destroyingthe enemy.
We're not worried about ifsomebody no.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So that's, why.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think that a lot of them have.
I get that, I get that.
But see, this is the thing,it's a safe thing and I
understand what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Hold on.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
No, you don't, you ain't even.
Let me say it Because.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I grew up with all my brothers.
I get that.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But see, this is the thing we're not.
We're not trying to.
We're not when the shit go down, hit the fan.
We're not trying to sit hereand worry about if she, we on
the front, forefront, and weabout to make this happen.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
They tuck away and they go down.
Right, they go down.
I ain't saying you bring nolittle babies out there.
I ain't even telling you tobring sisters.
That ain't need A lot of them.
They built for the field.
And I'm not saying that.
I'm like a man and that was insense.
I'm saying God is soldier and Iwill feel safe and also I know
how to get where I need to getto and move.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
You ain't got to worry about me be out there for
the most time before that evengo down, we just we alleviate
the situation and just nothaving y'all out there.
That's the thing of it.
And I get why they do it,because, like when I used to I
grew up in new jerusalem.
I get that.
But see, you're, you're, that'syou.

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Every woman ain't the same sis.
So the thing of it is no holdon, check out, check it out.
The thing of it is is that we,as men, we have a we have an
obligation to protect, we havean obligation to to make sure
that things are right.
When I used to go to the class,I used to.
When I came, when you would gointo the class, the men would

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sit closer to the door.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
So if something, yeah , of course.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So, with us knowing that we don't want to have to be
in a situation where we got tothink about this no, we already
are want to have to be in asituation where we got to think
about this?
No, we already.
Our pre-plan is, we're alreadythinking about it though.
But our pre-plan is that we'reout here doing it by ourselves
and y'all just tucked away,y'all good.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I ain't that kind.
If I was that kind, I wouldn'tbe on here talking with you now.
And I ain't saying that I'm thewoman that had to go to work.
I respect my husband.
I need to treat him whatever.
We don't got to discuss none ofthose things.
I get that and I alsounderstand safety.
Ain't no questions asked.
You know what I mean and myeyes is looking too Matter of

(27:58):
fact, most of the time I'mworking, the most I'm going to
tell you.
But we're talking aboutsomething totally different.
I'm talking about, I know whatI'm talking about and I know
what kind of man my father wasand his brothers and faith were,
and that's why I think wetalked about this before they

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built the mosque.
From their hands they were.
They cleaned up Broadway.
They were the brothers that gotoutside and a guy pull up to
pull up one of these women.
They was dressed as prostitutes.
They was prostitutes.
So these guys trying to buythem.
They got out, came out, pickedup the car and moved the car.

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Those women felt safe and theywasn't.
They moved the car, theystopped every time a John or
they did you gotta go.
You ain't doing none of thathere.
Those women, all thoseprostitutes, became Muslims,
Started wearing garb.
That's what I'm talking about.
Women, all those prostitutes,became Muslims, Got away in
guard.
That's what I'm talking abouttheir faith still protected the

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women.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
The women got out the cars.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
So what I'm saying is that same thing they did.
You keep talking to women andthey ain't learning nothing.
I respect the NTT.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
How they ain't learning, sis, what you want to
learn.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
How they learning how they learning, how they
learning anything.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
If you just talking to my wife, they only learning
what you doing.
That's environment.
We still living here.
You ain't got no land for herto be, how you saying she's
supposed to be.
So she supposed to stay in thehouse.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Never learn that ain't what I'm saying, but see,
this is the thing we it's anon-negotiable.
I am talking about learning, Iget it that's what I'm saying
you giving the word.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Okay, these brothers giving the word right.
I'm talking about you givingthe word.
Okay, these brothers giving theword right.
That's what I'm talking aboutGiving it to the women.
Pick a safer place for she.
You know, nothing will pop off.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
That ain't got to be on the street corner, when the
men out there teaching to themasses that ain't got to be on
the street corner.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
You don't, but then you do.
Why not?
That ain't got to be on thestreet corner because it's not
smart, it's not advisable andit's not safe.
That's why that's why they haveclasses and they have the camps
and stuff like that, that thefamilies can go and teach and
learn.
But when it comes, to me.
I don't know what kind of womenpeople be dealing with, but

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that ain't me, and I ain'tsaying I'm no man, but I
understand the power that thesebrothers have and so I will feel
safe out there, but that's you.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Even if you will feel still safe.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I'm sure, and it ain't for nothing to talk that
day, it ain't for nothing to popoff.
How do you?
Know that's the thing that's,the thing that's the thing we
live in, a world of causality,but that's how my faith works.
I don't know how your faithworks.
My faith will be safe andsecure.

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Ain't nothing going to happen?
And it wasn't supposed tohappen.
And if that thing was supposedto happen, that's what's
supposed to happen.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Okay, because that's from the most high.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Okay, so this is the thing, how you want to say this
to me and all you make me sayand I ain't saying I walk in
faith.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I get that.
I do too, but I don't thisfaith don't.
Faith don't mean that you justdo ill-advised things, though,
who's saying that what?
Hold on, that's not in theBible I'm giving the word of God
I get that.
But faith does not make you putsomebody in harm's way.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
In that light.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean faith don't make you put people in harm's
way.
So it's like you just don't dothat.
I wouldn't feel like I wasdoing my job if I had you out
there and me and the brothers,we out there on the street
corner and anything could popoff at any given time and we

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just out.
I mean, I'm sure we can keepyou safe and stuff like that,
but sometimes certain thingsneed to be very thought about,
thought out and thought aboutbefore we make that plan of
action.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I didn't say eliminate the thought about.
I said find a safer place, geta plan, talk about the safety
plan.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Nowadays, there ain't no safe place.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I'm trying to control too much, and that's why this
world is messed up.
It's imbalanced.
Why?
Because you ain't.
I know me too.
You know what I'm talking aboutand I don't want to be tucked
away all the time, and I getthat and it's like.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I get that because there's a lot of brothers.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
That's why I said men ain't never going to understand
the feminine side.
I get it.
I agree with everything you say.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
But it's not for us to understand the feminine side,
it's for us to protect it.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
You don't have to make me a man talking about army
rules and me.
I'm talking about that too, andpeople say see first, and I am,
and I still see.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Right, and it's classes that do have certain
situations Like this is a classin Cincinnati they do like every
Sunday, I think they do like aclothing and food, like food to
feed the hungry, feed the poor.
They do that.
They do it every Sunday and thewhole class be out there and

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they be out there doing it everysunday and the whole class be
out there and they be out theredoing it and you know what I'm
saying, but we do all go abouther right, right, but see, this
is the thing well, hold on, lookhold on
let's just listen to what I'msaying and don't cut me off.
Just listen to what I'm saying.
So they have, they, do they,they, they do they, they're,
they're feeding the homeless andall that stuff like that.

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The sisters be out there, theybe asking out for food, all that
woopy, woopy, woo, everythingis a safe situation, even
sometimes they be in differentcities and different hoods and
stuff like that.
And they still make sure thateverything is safe.
And I get it.
But think about this, and thisis why I say that it would be
ill advised to have the sistersOut there when we was teaching,

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because every time that I'veseen a video that one of these
brothers they was out thereteaching, it was always some
drama, some fuck going on,something going on, and it was
like, bro, why would I have mywife out here, in here?
And if I'm about to get outhere in the trenches and I know
that it's going to be some shit,I get what you're saying.

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I just me personally, I'm justlike man, I wouldn't like,
because I know like, and wedoing like a feed before a
clothing drive, something likethat, we'd be well, yeah, but
what's that?

Speaker 3 (34:56):
people out there in the public giving out food.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Don't think that's hard yeah, yeah, definitely,
definitely is harm, but it's adifferent type of.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
It's a different type of beast you don't want her to
be out there with the bird, thatain't what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
No, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I understand everything that you said and I
can reiterate it.
And I agree every man ain'ttheir soldier.
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So we talk about some punch back to me, and I agree
every man ain't no soldiereither.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I understand that.
So when we talk about some punkor we talk about some brothers
that I see that's going, I ain'tsaying I ain't saying that they
can't get the uh, the work.
What I'm saying is I see it godown and all of that.
But I'm talking about for my me.
I don't know about nobody else,but I know that that's in my

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spirit.
I don't mind standing on thecorner and giving the word and
it's in love and I canunderstand where somebody's
coming from.
You need that notion of spirit.
You need it, and maybe itdoesn't even got to be on the
corner.
Maybe they bring them thesisters and that is the speech
from a loving word.
She ain't got to be on thecorner, but what I'm saying is

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that those brothers faith andand the way that they know the
word, and I know that they comehard I would love, love to see a
woman and they soldiering up.
The other women need to see that, Because the only thing that
I've saw so far, in my opinion,is abuse.
You knocking her down, reallyknocking her down.

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The whole world knocks us downand you knocking us down and
you're knocking it down and youlift up a little bit with that
fierceness that you have and youdo nothing for it.
You tell her she ain't got ahusband and that's why she's a
baby daddy, Got a baby daddy,and all of that Like knocking it

(37:02):
down and giving some littleword and you saying that's a God
of love.
I don't want your kind of thatlike knocking it down and giving
some little word and you sayingthat's a God of love.
I don't want your kind of lovebro.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I get that Because they do be on social media, the
only thing is like if it's asister.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
You think I don't get it on a daily basis.
Even if I'm always in Hollywoodbecause I wear natural hair and
I cover and I won't wear shortclothing.
You think that all day, notjust from women, men.
So me standing there andfeeling secure around these
brothers is the A plus for meand I can talk and raise other

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people's vibrations and I gotsoldiers behind me like that
Every day.
I'm out here by myself, right,and I got to hold me down.
So you telling me I'd be outbecause a lot of us ain't there,
it ain't because I'm a badwoman.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
It's because these brothers want people that they
can teach, that they can puppet,because their perception of a
woman is misconstrued.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I don't think all the brothers like that.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I don't think they all cook and clean, because a
lot of y'all women and y'alldon't cook and clean.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I don't think a lot of them.
I don't think a lot of them.
It may be some in a bunch, butthey may outshadow the ones that
are just, like you know,regular type dudes, like you
know what I'm saying, so I getwhat you're saying, but I don't
think a lot of them are likethat.
I think it's like a good 15 to20% of the brothers that's in

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this truth.
That's walking like that.
You know what I'm saying Likereal shit, cause I done met some
good brothers You've told me alot of bad brothers.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I ain't saying that I ain't saying they bad.
I ain't saying that I don'tknow, because if you move like
that, I'm saying women, that'salready conscious, women, that's
already raised up, women,that's how you ain't got a
teacher.
I don't know what I'm talkingabout from my own experience.
You're talking your experience,yeah but, I, don't think I see

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some good brothers.
You know what I mean Women thatain't already eating pork that
was raised that way.
You know what I'm sayingAlready.
I don't know these women youknow the ones that I have met
good, but I know some jacked upones and those people you said

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people that ain't 8th port man.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I don't know anybody that ain't never 8th port.
I'm never 8th port you probablythe only person I know never
8th port.
See what I'm saying, yeah,that's, that's what I'm talking
about probably the only person Iknow that never ate pork yeah,
that's, that's what I'm talkingabout a diamond in the rough
that they don't even understand.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
This kind of woman exists already.
Somebody asked me how manychildren I had you know what I
mean.
And I told them the number youknow what i'm'm saying and they
gasped.
They was like you know, wow,you know what I mean.
I ain't asking for no money formy children.
They got a father.
I was mad, bro.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
They didn't even know.
I don't need you to take careof Manny in his life and we had
conversations and we far why not?
It ain't got to be no lowerthing.
You know what I'm saying youknow what I'm saying, but I
don't want that.
You already not on my level youknow what I'm saying.

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Maybe she got two kids, maybeshe ain't got none, that's fine.
That's what you want too.
You know what I'm saying, right?
whatever want to you know whatI'm saying, right whatever, but
y'all looking at my own thing,you know what I'm saying.
Some of these women stop beingpoor because they want to keep

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the dude and wearing the clothesand all that.
As soon as it's over, she'sgoing back to ratchet, right
back to ratchet, going back toRatchet.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Ratchet Right, right back to Ratchet.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Right back to it, quit.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
And there'd be some men out here that's like that
too.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I know a brother that was like that.
His wife was in the truth andshe brought him into the truth
and when they split, they splitup.
He went right back to it.
I'm like this nigga, like youjust did that just to get the
cooch nigga, I couldn't maintainit without her he couldn't
maintain it right he wasn'tready for that type of woman,

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that's it.
And he got to build himselfback up, that's it man, when you
do, when you do man, I you doman.
I'm just going to be real.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I don't take care of it.
Yeah, I work but my money ain'ttouching no bill.
And if it do, and if you touchthe bill, you don't have
anything to say to me how do youfeel that way?

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okay.
So I'm not even saying that Iain't never helped my husband.
I'm not even saying that.
What I'm saying is you, yourather stress about it, and the
most hard is, you want me toserve and you get all the
service.
This is what I told myex-husband.
I'm going to tell you exactlywhat I told him.

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I said you, out here, I'msitting here patient.
You want a carpet cleaningbusiness.
I didn't give you the money.
I did give him the money so hecould start it.
One dollar store I had themoney.
Here it is, go ahead and doyour thing.
You ain't never got the stressabout taking care of your family
.
You ain't never got.

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If it was a car, I said.
You said when we got marriedyou asked God for me and I fit
the description in every way.
You said your prayers wasanswered with me, but you
neglect me.
You ain't going hard.

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I'm being patient.
I'm not even complaining abouta bill.
You ain't got it.
I'm going to put the money onit.
I ain't never going to bring itup.
Make you feel no type of waythat would make me go harder.
If you prayed to God for a carand you got that car, you'd be
out there vacuuming that car,making sure it's fresh and clean
.
But I'm a prayer answer to youand I'm a flesh like you and I'm

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a spirit just like you.
But you neglect me, youworrying about getting another
wife and you ain't taking careof this household right All the
way.
I should never have to put anymoney on any bill, but you
saying God put the man in chargeand all of that.

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But I'm helping you be a man.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Being a man is not paying bills sister.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I don't know being a man.
I don't think being a man ispaying bills, like that ain't
being a man.
That's just being a grown assperson's just being a grown-ass
person, a responsible grown-assperson.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I'm not Even if I'm wealthy, ifyou ain't paying.
I ain't saying that when I'mwealthy, rich money, I ain't
worrying about no bills, none ofthat.
I ain't got to say, hey bro,you got five dollars tonight.
And when it's like you knowwhat I'm saying you still, he

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still got to go hard, right,definitely.
He still got to make sure I'mright emotionally, make me feel
safe.
I ain't wearing a belt.
It ain't got no bills.
It ain't got no bills.
It's about harmony and peaceand love.
But if you causing yourself adisharmony and you stressing

(45:14):
about bills, you got somebodythat ain't stressing you about
the bills helping out.
It's secret never making youfeel no type of way that would
make me go hard, you don'tdeserve me, you're not worthy Is
secret never making you feel notype of way that would make me
go harder.
You don't deserve me, you'renot worthy.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I don't know, because , see, this is the thing and I'm
going to touch on it just alittle bit and we're going to
get back on the topic but I feellike this, like I get it, man,
I shouldn't.
My trust should be there.
My trust should be there and myfaith should be there, and most

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of the time it is there.
But just like the scripturessay man Proverbs say better
pressure to make a man go crazy.
And one thing that our sistersreally need to understand is
that, man, we are oppressed inthis motherfucker Like man men

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are oppressed Like and I get itWomen go through a lot too,
y'all do.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
We got to get out here in this work field.
Yeah, you out here.
My mother didn't raise me likethat.
My mother, the man, take care.
He take care of all of.
I'm saying take care of all ofit.
They take care of all of it andeverything.
I get that but, and have noworry, do you good we in the

(46:37):
21st century, though so thingsand these brothers are still
teaching 8th century stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I get that, but things is different and the cost
of living is different.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
the cost of living is different, then that should
make you go harder.
I don't feel like it shouldmake you unlimit yourself it
should make you push and getthese businesses going, and all
of that that's what I?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, I don't feel like that.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
I ain't going hard for nobody.
I ain't going hard for nobody.
It ain't going hard for me, itain't happening.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Oh, that's what I said.
The house cleaning.
Food is cooked.
I look good, I cook my own damnfood.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I clean my own damn house If you want a massage.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Sometimes, sir, I'll give it to you.
You ain't got to worry about it.
Whatever other stuff, you ain'tnever got to ask me, I'm in it.
But let me tell you about awoman if you're not providing
that way to keep a peacefulplace for her I don't know about
all of it, I'm talking about me, but I'm saying you ain't
providing that Like it, it, it,it, nothing, but then something

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ain't right, something ain'tright, I don't know.
I'll take care, I'll take careof you and I'll take care of me
and I'll help out when I need to.
I've never, ever, be in arelationship and he feels
something like that.
But it wasn't an always thing.
It wasn't a constant thing.

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And when it became constant, mylove was different.
My love was different, andthat's real.
And because you applying're nowyou're gonna be a person, I'm
still going these things andthen come home when they stress
and they ain't got, they'redifferent beats and I'm still

(48:36):
being patient and I'm giving youideas and I even got the money.
I'm helping you out and youstill, you still, and most of
the time.
Nah, nah, bro, I love youdifferent, but I ain't never
gonna hurt you.
I ain't never gonna do anythingto you.
I ain't gonna do none of thatstuff.

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I ain't gonna rape and I'mgonna speak my mind.
I don't can't take that.
I don't can't take the real I'mgiving you, real.
I'm telling you, go harder forme.
You told me that I'm a prayeranswer.
Now you just going to tell me Icame from God, I don't die.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
But see, this is the thing, and it's because of my
prayer for you.
You don't mean that you was ablessing, though I'm a blessing,
I don't know about nobody else.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I'm a blessing.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I don't know about nobody else, I'm talking about
five in your mind, yeah, but youmight have not been a blessing
from the most high.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
You might have been that man's punishment, and I'll
bet you not none of no, I'm justsaying, like, let's just be
real.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
We can be real, though, like, let's just be real
.
Like the most high works inthis mysterious ways, a man
prays.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Oh, everybody prays in a lesson.
It was a lesson, that's realtalk.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, but I get that.
But everybody like I just don'tfeel like everybody that comes
in your life is a blessing, orif you pray for something or
something like that.
I don't feel that way.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I don't know what kind of prayer.
They all blessings, even if itended up and it a blessing,
thank you, because without thisI already know I didn't want
this.
I ain't afraid to walk away.
I ain't afraid.
If it ain't aligned in my spirit, if it ain't equally yoked in
my spirit, I'm gone.
I'm not going to hurt you.

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I'm in a point where I want toraise my voice at you.
I want to be disrespectful toyou, and it's not in my nature
to do that.
This is what I'm asking you,sir.
I don't want to pay no bills.
I don't need to pay no bills.
This is what you said.
I need a break.
I'm out in the world too, I'min these environments I can't

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take you to your mom's kids.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
We don't need to be out here working amongst these
men in this environment.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
If you want that, then go back to your father's
house For real.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
And if I could, I would If I could go to my
father's house and a lot ofpeople will say because I don't
drive right?
And they say, well, you know,right now I need to drive.
I've been learning, I've beenlearning.
You know what I'm saying,whatever right but I had men
that took me because they wereabout my safety.
They didn't want me on the bus.

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They didn't want me on the bus,they didn't go work harder so I
can have, I can stay at home andI didn't, hey, go back to
school.
You're back.
This is you yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I mean, oh, like that's servitude, enslavement
that's slavery man, I'm notalways home.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I went to college I got degrees, I mean, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
So like yeah, like uh-uh, but I was first though
yeah, I get that, but I, I justman, I don't know man, I I gotta
have, I gotta peace, and I gotto be happy too.
And me just working and workingand working and killing myself,
that ain't me happy man.
I don't think I want to movelike that, and that's why I say
go harder.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
I didn't say work more, I said build businesses.
That's what I said, man.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
But that's still me putting myself into something,
and energy and all that stufflike that.
That's stuff that I'm stillsacrificing for somebody else.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
I totally get it, but what I'm saying is go harder
again.
I feel you're limiting yourself, because go harder the brain
and I'm not go harder, have abusiness, so you ain't got to
worry about working hard allthese hours and then you could
live the life that I feel thatyou, we go, go back to your
daddy house, I mean most but myfather didn't let me get on the

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bus.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, but most, most.
But this is the thing see if myfather treat me like that but
see, this is the thing, and alot, of, a lot of people bought
me groceries and brought thegroceries in the house.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
That's your daddy.
That your daddy.
You didn't want me to lift thebags.
That's your daddy.
Why would I want love?
You're supposed to be my rib.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
You're supposed to be my help meat, Not my hindrance.
My help meat.
Why is it a hindrance?
Because you've got to pay thebill.
Think about it no, no no, no,it's a hindrance, because Now
I'm not only because I'mthinking about your safety and
everything else that's going onaround me and everything that I

(53:08):
have to do.
I got to think about like up inmy soul and I got to think
about a lot of more things, andthat's where the stress, see you
say oh, don't be stressed, butit has stress.
I get it, but see, this is thething, not a lot of them would
do that.

(53:28):
Not a lot would do that, not alot of who Come on now.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
You went to the same field level.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
You're talking about paying the bills.
I don't understand If we on thesame playing field.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
we got to be out in the world too.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I'm going to say this sis, there is no sister that I
ever met that ever made or wasever financially set like I was
or was stable like I was.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I don't know what kind of women.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
No hold on, hold on.
That was making the type ofcash that I was.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
So I could never ask you to be like okay, you pay,
I'm a queen, no that I'm notdoing that, and but this is my
thing more money than them, andI never made.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
This is the thing, and I'm gonna say this we gonna
get back on topic, because thistopic is something else, but I'm
gonna say this there is nothingwrong, but you getting out and
making it happen and doing whatyou're doing, because think
about this what if somethinghappens to me?
I need to depend on you.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Hold on, I need to depend on you.
Maybe you're talking aboutparts that I said because I said
me I went to college.
Also, they were encouraged toget.
I worked in welfare, I workedin social services, I worked in
mental hospitals.
I get that what I'm saying.
And home was never a slack andit wasn't like forcible that I
had to to make ends meet.

(54:50):
So we gonna rewind, cause Iagree with that part or whatever
.
You know, something happened toyou.
You have to be able to takecare of yourself and all.
My father encouraged us to goto school and different things.
I don't know what kind of work.
I don't know what you'regetting out of what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
No, I hear what you're saying, but we just
having a conversation and it'sjust, you know, difficult.
Yeah, we are still.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
You don't have to reiterate that we're having a
conversation.
I'm aware.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
But what I was saying is that we it's just like you
know you you're giving yourperspective, I'm giving mine
what I'm saying, because you'repicking out and you're saying
only one side of thing.
I'm covering the whole area.
What I'm saying is, if we're onthe same level, okay, and as
you're saying that we supposedto be in the 21st century, then
you reading Old Testament, howare you applying that?
Are you picking what you wantto apply, what God say, or

(55:56):
whatever?
Why are you limiting yourself,bro?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Ain't nobody limiting myself.
Ain't nobody limiting.
I don't need to be amillionaire, sis, I don't need
that I'm good with what I'mdoing.
My mother was a very meager andhumble person.
She lived very meager andhumbly.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Was your father in your life.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yes, my father was in my life and he lived meager and
humbly too.
They didn't need a lot to behappy.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I could still live humbly and be a millionaire.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I don't need that.
I don't need that.
I just want my peace.
That's it.
I just want to make sure thatmy children have something when
I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
That's all that matters to me, and I don't have
to be a millionaire to make thathappen I mean, I'm not saying
that she can't own a businessdifferent things, I'm saying the
mind that I have that, if thisis how you know, it's one side
of brother saying I want thewomen outside, we're going to
protect them, and then, but thenshe got to help, uh uh, pay the

(57:02):
bills and maintain the familyand cooking can and this and
that.
But I'm saying that and thenwhat I would tell me in my
rationale is for men to providemore so they all can have
businesses and not do theoutside in the world or whatever

(57:23):
, be outside in the world orwhatever.
And maybe she could providebusinesses for other women so
they don't have to have your ownsocial services agencies and
different things.
That's just my perspective.
I'm not limiting nobody, right?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
But I just don't feel like me personally.
I don't feel like I'm notasking nobody to do half on
nothing.
That is not what I'm doing,that's not what I'm asking.
But the biggest thing that Iunderstand that when people are
doing something and they're likeworking or have their own

(58:00):
business, it's the social thing,it's being a sociable person,
being there, having friendsdoing this, going places,
experiencing life.
If you're not just, if you'renot just, if you just sit and
stagnate and not experiencinglife in many different facets,
then why do I got to go help you?
Why do I have to?
Why do I have to be the one tofinance you experiencing life?

(58:23):
What on the accord or theaccount of me?
Why do I have to be the one tofinance you experiencing life?
What On the accord or theaccount of me?
And my health and me workingand having that.
You wonder why brothers comehome.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Hold on sis, hold on sis.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
See, I always say that I always say that, but at
the end of the day it's likethis.
I always say that, but at theend of the day it's like this.
It's a reason why we come homeand we be on some other stuff,
because we got to deal with thebullshit out there.
Now, most men and it's cool, Iain't tripping, you ain't got to
do this, oh, what's this andthis and that Cool, but me
personally, no, it ain't eventhat?

(59:05):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
It ain't even that, it ain't even that.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
It's just that I have a different.
What I grew up with was mymother and my father was working
and they helped and they workedtogether.
They had shit, they built shittogether and they did things
together.
They went on family trips, theytook us on trips and it was
good when they split.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Hold on, hold on when they split.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
they split everything down the middle.
Whatever, my mother was a nurse, a registered nurse, for 22
years 22 years.
My father was a garbage man forumpteen something years and
they built.
I watched them build together.
I watched them as a young buck.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
I watched them build and I watched us all right, the
woman that you just described,you know building together and
having, like your mom, hadgarbage men making good money,
yeah, but made greater money.
So what I'm saying is and y'allwas able to go on family trips

(01:00:10):
and different things.
This is me describing myself.
I'm not saying, and in thebeginning I did say I ain't.
You know what I mean, you ain't.
I'm not sitting around on thehope and the wish and the dream.
Get out there and get it.
We working together, we workingtogether, we working together.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
But if it's, all on me and see that's the thing and
them brothers that do that it'sweighing out, and then you want
to put this tyrannical god on me.
That's what I'm talking aboutyeah, yeah, I get what you're
saying, because a lot ofbrothers do that and it is
bullshit.
I get it.
I get it, but for brothers thathave the same mindset as me and

(01:00:54):
other brothers, that's tryingto move.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
In a certain level, you can put money on me, bill
bro, for Peggy.
Bill bro, now, if I don't gotit like that, if I ain't you, if
I now, if I don't got it likethat, if I ain't you know what
I'm saying.
Right, you could get it harder.
I get it Because I got this.
But see, this is the thing,check this out, I got this, you
go, we good, we can go get itharder, especially if I'm I like

(01:01:16):
to hustle from home.
I'm, you know what I mean workfrom home.
Oh yeah, that's the perfectthing and I'm getting money for
myself like I'm sewing clothes,I'm doing things.
I've got a constant income inmy own way.
I'm good.
I got my end on.
You know what I'm saying and Iain't eating.
That's me.
I just want to say this I needthe opportunity to do that.

(01:01:40):
If you see it in me like bro,let's get this together.
That's what I'm talking about,so I ain't gotta be out there
and this is what I'm trying tosay it's the same hardships you
have at work, what you thinkyou're doing but see, sis, this
is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Is that that's your reality?
That ain't every?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
sister's reality but that ain't, we're not just
talking about just me and you.
I'm talking about me.
I keep saying it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
But this conversation is a broad conversation, not
just about me and you andthere's women out there like me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
But it's not a lot of them.
That's the thing.
It's not a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I don't know I attract sisters like me all the
time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I get that, sis, I do A lot of homies is like me,
blackness attracts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
But the thing is, the thing is we go through the
drama with the husbands and allthat.
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
You know y'all ain't heard from people when I'm we
look at we see social media.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I know a lot of sisters, I don't know where
y'all looking, but we can't actlike they don't exist.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I ain't saying they don't exist.
You keep trying to put that onme.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
No, I'm not saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I'm not saying that, you're not saying that yeah but
I'm just saying In the beginningI said we was talking about the
UPK brother, whatever alphabet,you know what I'm saying.
We was talking about them andwe was talking about the women
on the street.
And all women couldn't be thatlike that, and I have grace.
You know what I'm saying, justlike I know we're in a

(01:03:13):
disagreement, you even first.
So you must have startedfeeling no, I'm not, I'm cool,
I'm passionate anyway yeah, wechilling.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I'm cool.
I don't feel passionate aboutthis conversation.
We just talking.
I'm just because, I know how.
I know how this has been a bigstaple of in our community, that
brothers and sisters, and it'sgood that we have in this
conversation, because we bothview it the same way and then

(01:03:40):
differently too.
I don't know how that happensand how it works, but it just
works and it's just a beautifulthing with the most hour of
praises.
But what I'm saying is that youknow, leah, I'm just like I
don't feel no way.
Sis, I'm chilling.
I'm just here conversating withyou.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I'm saying that you know, I mean all the sisters,
like some sisters like I would.
I know this one job interview Iwent on.
They didn't hire me, I saidbecause in the interview they
was like what you going to do?
Because it was like going outand giving homeless people
advice or asking them to go to ashelter or giving them some

(01:04:19):
food or bringing them in formental health services.
But the question they asked meif one of the homeless people
jumped out on you at fiveo'clock in the morning when you
were going to get up, orwhatever, what would you do?
I said first thing I want toknow is my partner a punk?
I'll use the word, but I wasn'tknocking anybody in.

(01:04:41):
That's Jersey talk.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
They're saying you got thatlife.
I ain't saying I'm going toswing on them, but you're going
to protect yourself.
Yeah, if it's a woman that I'mwith, what kind of person Can we
talk about safety?
Do I have to talk about safety,or are we?

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
just eye to eye.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Right, I got to know, eye to eye Right, and that's
the crazy part I gotta know eyeto eye because you're energy off
.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
You might talk about it like that.
I mean like I said that in aninterview Like for real I'm
serious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
She said I said it in an interview.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Hey see, this is why I got her as my host y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
My co host.
I'm telling you real shit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
I was playing got her as my host, y'all my co-host.
I'm telling you real shit, Iwas right.
You know I mean the guy that Iwas interviewing what happened
to be uh lgbtq and he was.
He was open about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I wasn't saying it like right I was coming for you
when I oh, so he felt some typeof way because you said punk
they got all comfortable in theroom.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I felt it.
I know that's why I didn't getthe job, because I kept it a
block.
You want people to talk allthis professional I'm still
professional, but we dealingwith realness.
But we got to be fake.
Like, okay, all right.
My reaction might be like, ohyou, okay, me, I'm the talking
person.
Like I didn't expect you tojump out, you okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Hey you silly, If you swing it, I'm going back up
Like come on.
Right, right I ain't going toput my weight on you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, but you're going to
protect yourself definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
But I'm going to protect myself.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
You also?

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
learn when you work in mental health like how to
take somebody down.
I might have to take you down,right right, hey, that's a hey,
see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
you know what?
See, we got multi-topics today,y'all.
We just ain't about to stick onthe same topic, I see.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
But see, this is the crazy part about that whole
mental health job.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Right, because I want to be out there with them Right
, right, but check this outthough, the crazy thing about
the Right right.
So check this out.
The crazy part about thatmental health industry, right,
is that a lot of sisters are inthat mental health industry.
It ain't a lot of brothers init and these sisters is learning

(01:07:06):
how to take people downpassively, oh okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
And knock their ass out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
So that's why I'm like man I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
I'm just saying it like that I'm coming at you,
hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
That's learning at the job, I learned how to take
somebody Right right, but that'swhat I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
A lot of sisters had learned it there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Yeah, it was known not to mess with us because we
would come just like that, maybecome out the house with a
machete on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Right, but that was your reality.
A lot of other sisters hadlearned it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
That's why I'm still talking about me, me.
I don't know again, I don'tknow all these other women, but
I understand a punk when I knowa punk.
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
But what I'm saying is that?
What I'm saying is that I'mgeneralizing that a lot of women
have learned self-defense frommental health.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Okay, let's sum it up , that ain't all the
self-defense I learned.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
That's all I'm saying .
I talked about it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
You can listen to it again.
But the whole real self-defenseis talking somebody down before
they even get it.
Sometimes people ain't want tobe heard, some people want to
just be heard.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Yeah, I was generalizing and I wasn't just
talking about this one person.
I was talking about a lot ofpeople, a lot of sisters that I
know too myself, that havelearned self-defense and the
mental health, and I'm like,well they, because, like I said,
it's not a lot of brothersthat's in that field and I
always you said they get atakedown in a passive way.

(01:08:36):
Yeah, but I always wondered whyit wasn't a lot of brothers in
that field Like we have up herein Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Men don't deal with their emotions.
Men don't deal with theiremotions.
Men don't deal with theiremotions.
You see, a lot of men suffermental health problems and don't
even go to the doctors abouttheir feet.
So they really, and y'all don'tlet people, y'all try to not
let people in emotionally, andso that's why they don't get the
help and they don't work there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Well, sis, I'm going to say don't get the help and
they don't work there.
Well, sis, I'm gonna say this alot of people, a lot of people
that are not men, don't give afuck about what men going
through and our mental health.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Well, I get that but just now, just now, today, on
the way back after I seen thebrothers right, I was going into
the gas station to get um soda,whatever, right anyway.

(01:09:37):
So it was a guy sitting outthere he asking people for money
.
He might be, uh, getting a drug, he might be getting a drink,
something to eat, whatever heout there, I can't imagine, you
know what I mean, the way he isand whatever he got going

(01:09:58):
through and what life um withthe system.
You know what I mean Making itharder.
Women is making it harder withchild support and men.
All these, you know a lot ofstuff with men, right, absence
of fathers, mothers that theyreally don't like Ain't the kind

(01:10:23):
of woman that they want to bearound, but sometimes they is.
There's a lot of single homemothers.
You know families.
These men is being raised byand being poisoned.
You know what I'm saying In anegative way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Because you done babied this boy, you done babied
this boy and he don't know whatit is to really, really be a
man, and I ain't saying givinghim love and taking him to
school.
And, Sean, I'm really.
You made him your little man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, your little man right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
You made.
That's all he.
And even with, and all the time, I don't know if it's from the
single homes a lot of thesepeople are saying these single
homes with no fathers is why theboys are being homosexual.
No, some boys, I knew you wasgonna be when you was two years

(01:11:21):
old.
A feminine spirit.
Yeah, you know that my mothermolested.
That's just who they are.
Two years old, a femininespirit.
Yeah, yeah, you know some ofthem are molested.
That's just who they are.
Leave them alone.
Stop trying to make them you.
Maybe it's okay that they dealwith their emotions and being
free.
Some people pervert it, though.
Some people do pervert itbecause you see the femininity

(01:11:44):
in that boy and you do evilthings in the dark and you got a
wife To a child Sickness.
A lot of y'all don't need to goahead and be on up to that and

(01:12:12):
whatever demons y'all got.
And some of y'all was molestedby women when y'all was 12, 13.
Your auntie's friend gave youhair at 12.
They're supposed to bebabysitting you.
They're doing things to yourbody and you like that and
that's why that's the feelingthat you chase, because you were

(01:12:36):
molested, even though you likedit, praising it, and not all
boys liked it, even if it wasfrom a woman.
Woman and they don't make himgay that mean he didn't want to
be violated.
The feelings of violationnobody wanted a lot of.
Y'all need to talk about that.
That's a sickness you need toerase, that y'all glorify.

(01:13:04):
That's why y'all quit to callthese women hoes, for who you
was laying with.
And then you called her a hoe,you lying with a fool.
Why y'all not mad at thesegirls.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
That's a mental illness.
I get that, but this is thething.
Like me, and we ain't the.
That's a lot of brothers thatdeal with a lot of things like
right, but we were taught not toshow our emotions by the very

(01:13:39):
women that say nigga, you ain'temotional, nigga we, we would.
We've been taught by the samewomen and then after outside of
the woman that taught us, nowwe're out in the world and women
are teaching and telling us Idon't give a fuck about what
you're thinking about, I don'tcare about that.
So, after you done heard it somany times, it's like man.

(01:14:02):
Now you just shut down like man, whatever, all right, and it's
a lot of good women that willlisten and does care.
And for the sisters like you andother sisters out here, that's
like that I love y'all.
Keep on pushing, because may isman's health, man's mental
health month.
They changed it from june tomay.
Y'all didn't know that.

(01:14:22):
They changed it from June toMay.
Today is man's mental healthmonth.
So those sisters that do care,I big up to y'all, I rock with
y'all, y'all my sisters.
I love y'all.
Hey, let's do it, let's build anation and be better and help a
lot of these brothers come upout of that, I'm glad I'm just

(01:14:45):
blessed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
That's why they need me.
That's why it's a fire For realfor it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Hey silly.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
And that's why I always got along with men and
there wasn't nobody.
And one time, you know, I ain'twith all guys growing up, right
.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
All brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
I was the one that was outside talking like I'm
talking to you now, and that'swhy I say you don't know me.
I had a group of them going tothe mosque or wherever to go
into the temple.
Wherever I was going, they wasgoing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Wherever I was going.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Yes, Well, if we had more women that had the
sensibility and the awareness.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Because a lot of women walk around without their
awareness.
I'm also saying I'm aware ofthe mental health.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
I, you know, even I saw.
But I also seen guys do weirdstuff, the women that cause
mental health.
Yeah, okay, I seen my neighborbrought you know what I'm saying
Some girls.
They had paper bags on theirhead, yes, with holes, eye holes
cut out for them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Bam.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
They put paper bags on the girl's head.
Ain't no way, bam, ain't no way, damn Ain't no way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah, that can definitely cause some kind of
traumatic type of thing going onLike hey, bro, you put a paper
bag on my head.
Like we used to joke about thatback in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
No, they literally did it.
They literally did it Like theynever really did that, and they
used to call girls that back inthe day, but it never really
did.
And I was like what's butterheads?
Everything, everything, uh,cute on her.
So they looking at the body,they lusting, some things going

(01:16:46):
on.
You got mental health issues.
Who I've seen?
A guy?
He was in a relationship withthis woman.
He was in love honey.
He had his little maintenancejob.
He was, you know, nice lookingguy, right, light skin.
You know I'm gonna get a lightskin.
He was all right, you know no,but he was.

(01:17:09):
He was a nice looking guy, hewas right, right right he wasn't
bad looking, you know what I'msaying.
He had the pretty tony hair,none of that, but he was light
skin oh okay, tall guy had a jobyou know, nice car, little
decent guy and he started datingthis girl.
She looked pretty decent,college, different things, you
know what I'm saying.
Had a little office job girlbut she broke up with him and he

(01:17:34):
lost his mind hmm, talked tohimself what all kind of stuff
damn, he was on that he ain'thurting nobody
yeah, that's how you know, he inlove, but he, yeah, he was in
love, right, that love broke hismind.
Damn, this is a lot of theseguys.

(01:17:57):
He ain't gotta have to looklike them, but a lot of them is
hurt cause the one that youwanted broke your heart or left
you, cause you wasn't togetheror it ain't all gotta be.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
saying Right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I ain't never went through that before man, I ain't
never been in love so that,yeah, to be broke up with and
then be like shattered behindthis woman.
Like I gotta go to worktomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I was in love sick, like you know, but that's why we
got together, yeah that's deepbecause also I'm doing I know
what kind of woman.
You know I was married a fewtimes, but it was long intervals
.
I was married years and allthat stuff, but there was long
intervals.
I was married years.
Mm-hmm and had children, allthat stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
And you, you, you wild, you wild, you wild.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Hey, one time I came home, my husband uh doing way
off because I had got a fur.
Honey, I did, I got me a fur.
Oh, you had a fur yeah, I gotme a fur she had the fur y'all I
had a fur wearing it with mycar.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Yes, what, what, what type was it?
Was a mean, was it a?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
It wasn't real, but to me it was about a million
dollars.
That thing looked so beautifulon me, Was it white it wasn't a
real fur.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
What color was it?
Black Black.
Oh, you had the black fur.
Yeah, that was that I had ablack fur.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
But I you know I was, I got dressed, I took off my
garb and stuff that I had on myfur, okay.
And so his boys went back andsaid he was like, yeah, if I was
downtown she had on her fur.
She was outside chilling infront of, but I wasn't trying to
flirt with nobody or nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Right, he was just out there parking lot pimping.
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
I was looking, yeah, looking.
Just letting you know I'mlooking like a little sump.
You think these brothers don'twant this good boy.
You silly, I ain't slouchingnobody.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
I ain't all sexy I ain't doing all that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
I'm a little bigger, you know what I'm saying.
You just enjoying the vibe.
Yeah'm a little bigger, right?
I'm doing all that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
I'm just chilling you just enjoying the vibe.
Yeah, I get it Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
But they went back and told me you know, he came to
the house.
He took away all my clothesexcept for all the black he took
away.
I came home for work.
I'm working at the welfareoffice.
I come home for work.
I'm like I'm working at thewelfare office, I come home for
work.
I got nothing in my car exceptfor all black.
I'm going to a funeral.

(01:20:51):
We going to a funeral.
Call back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Oh wow, was he that insecure or was he just that
jealous Like what was going onwith the brother?

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
I think he was jealous.
Yeah, of course, but hey man,it ain't secure because you're
doing things bro.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
So he had to be doing something for him to act like
that.
You're doing things, mm, she'sdoing things, guys, so, uh, so
still, I went out there, youknow, doing nothing like that,
but it ain't hard to get married.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
It ain't hard to get you know out of you, know what
I'm saying and get to somethingbetter.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
And I had to tell them, like I'm not out here
doing nothing, you thinking anybrothers ain't coming over here.
They see your house clean,y'all got food cooked, large TV,
you can watch games, watch thefight flags at your house.

(01:21:58):
And then they say yo, wait aminute, my wife come over here
and tell me what that mean.
They see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
They see, and they probably ain what's going on
right here.
They see, yeah, and they, andit probably ain't even going on
in a house.
Yeah, you're messing up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Man, you're out here trying to find another wife and
I ain't mad, I wasn't evenagainst polygamy.
I was not against polygamy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Right, but done in a right manner.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Yeah, done in the right way, but you know I mean
you go and way, but you knowwhat I mean.
You go and get this realstraight, because you know what
I mean.
You got you.
You.
And I don't like him.
And he's saying he got this jobat night.
And once I Spirit told meanswer the phone and it was a
woman, no push redial on thephone and I did and she, he

(01:22:43):
didn't give her his real name,this kind of stuff.
I didn't give her real talk.
Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
So, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
She didn't even know his real name.
Nope, why did you repeateverything I'm saying?
Because, no, because I, becauseI'm like I'm flabbergasted.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Yes, he didn't know.
He gave a Fugazi name.
He's still trying to lie.
He was like you lying.
I told you I went to collegeand he was like I told you about
doing that psychological stuff.
You may be going to school forthat, but you ain't.
I was like what?
I was like you what.

(01:23:19):
That's what she said.
You said you going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
He's sliding over there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
We're giving him money to pay them bills, because
he told her that he hit thekids while I'm at work.
That's what he told her.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
So she knew about you .

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
She didn't know about me.
He didn't tell her he hadanother wife.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Oh, he just said that he had somebody, that you was
the one that watched.
Niggas can't even lie right?
Niggas can't even lie right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
It's all good for a bit.
I mean, I found out everything.
The spirit told me open thisbook bag.
He told me open this book bag.
I swear Right.
I was like, well, who this?
It was a receipt.
We got her some earrings made.
Her name is here the nigga hadthe receipt in his book bag here

(01:24:14):
yeah, but that's what he'sgoing to pick up, whatever.
Like you know what I mean.
He just like who he is how longago was this?

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
how long?
What year was this?
Like you're doing too much no,because I can't, because because
receipt like.
I'm like, well shit man, if itwasn't we in a digital era, why
do you even go for paperreceipts?
You?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
know back in the day when you get the little heart
earrings or you get your nameearring.
They do it out on a receipt.
So what 90s?

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
2000 yeah, we were in went digital era.
So, yeah, yeah, he's stillstupid for putting in his book.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
But he's stupid yeah, why you ain't destroyed you
know I mean he was with it,whatever he was teaching.
That's what he had a littlestance.
Outside, you know what I mean.
Some of this stuff, you know.
I mean I'm supported.
I you know what I mean.
I thought it was dope.
When I met him, the only thinghe knew how to do was sell drugs

(01:25:12):
.
He said that's all he ever did.
So I said you need to applythat hustle in another way,
won't you go do this?
And I said and I couldn't makethis up but he still tried to
call me every once in a whileasking if I was still married.
Am I married?

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
trying to get back that's one thing I could say.
I don't think I could gobackwards.
I don't know one out of my life.
That's probably the only one.
I don't know one out of my life, but that's probably the only
one.
But no, I don't think I couldbecause, like man, that's crazy.

(01:25:56):
So when man, I have so manyquestions, I swear I got to keep
on remembering that this is notan interview.
It's not an interview.
I got so many questions I swearI gotta keep on remembering
that this is not an interview.
Like it's not an interview.
I got so many questions, Iswear I do.
But but and it's like, yeah,it's like personal, like
personal, but we'll chop it up.

(01:26:18):
I got questions.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
I mean, you know what I'm open?
Yeah, but you guys felt like Iwas being interviewed in an
earring, so what year was this?

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
That's why I had to come up out of interview mode
like hold on, because I'm like Iwanted to know what you said
Because you multitasked it oryou taking notes?
No, I'm listening.
But this is like when I'mdealing with people and I'm
doing a podcast.
Like I'm listening, I'mthinking like you say something,
and whatever you say, if itsticks out to me, I repeat it
and then I ask the question.

(01:26:49):
Off of that repeat and repeatthat repetition.
So it helps me to stay focusedon what I'm, what I want to say.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
It's like a whole interview, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
You said a whole energy.
I don't have to hide Huh Idon't have to hide.
I don't have to hide, I'm openyeah, I get it, but I, yeah,
we'll, we'll have thatconversation, we'll have that
conversation.
But I, just, I was just likeman, like he laughing in the
book bag though, like bro, likewhat, what's you thinking like?

(01:27:22):
And I know like, when you say,like the little earrings,
customized earrings, you get,yeah, you, they write the
receipt out and out back he'slike what the?

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
fuck, like what was he thinking?
I'm telling you, that's whathappens, real talk and that
that's deep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
I tried a little to make me think, like Real talk,
man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
That.
That, mm.
That's deep.
I tried a little polygamy thing, like I mean you know she's
going to be the other wife andall that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
And at that time in my life I ain't really was in it
like that For real.
Right, I understand that it's abeautiful thing.
I understand that buildingcommunities and, from an Islamic
perspective, I understand theworldly perspective.
I understand that a woman canonly have one man's child and

(01:28:14):
men can water many seeds.
You know what I'm saying, so Iget that.
I get it from a scientific way.
I get it from a community way.
I get it, however.
I get it from a scientific way,I get it from a community way.
I get it.
However, you know what I'msaying With that.
He could have went about it inthe right way.
He had to start out even withher, with lying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
He had to start out with me with lying Because we
talked about polygamy.
That was one of theconversations we had before we
even got married, so I didn'thave a real heart about it.
If that's my sister in love,then it's all love.

(01:28:57):
Like, if I'm not a good man,like why wouldn't I want that
for my sister?
That ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
You know what I'm saying we can cook together we
can eat together.
It ain't really.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
I ain't jealous when we kiss you, you know what I
mean.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
He told us to kiss you.
That's a real shit, right?
That's the definition of love,y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
I love you.
I love you.
I ain't high on this.
That's in the most high.
We doing this in the most high.
This is what God say why?
Wow, I got something.
I ain't feeling no type of way,but when you bring a hood rat
home, when you bring an expert,she still sneaking eat bacon
sandwiches at lunch when youain't around home.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
You said she still sneaking, eat bacon sandwiches.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
I understand the spirit of her and Alana with
this, what we got.
Why don't you just listen to me?
This is not from jealousy.
I'm telling you what it isright.
This is who you married to.
We can talk about this, and youain't even.
You ain't even payingeverything around here.
You ain't making sure I'm goodaround here.
Why you trying to add on to it?

(01:30:05):
Are you gonna get?
We ain't doing those futureplans.
I'm planning to get this done.
We was breaking that same planand it didn't happen.
Get that, so you ain't gottahave her struggling, right?
and, I think, a lot of peopledon't know if she got bread.
There ain't no way that youknow, sometimes we might not

(01:30:27):
have no bread.
You know what I'm saying, butshe ain't talking to me in the
negative way about my husband.
Right, we need to go ahead andget some more bread so he can
get us both some bread.
How we gonna help him do that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Hmm, how we gonna help them do that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Hmm, I don't know if we all come together like that,
he gonna have money anyway.
You need some money, bro.
You need some money.
You want some money.
You just wanna to be king.
Yeah, I'm cool, I'm cool thequeen is always protected on the

(01:31:18):
board.
She just moves how she movesbut, everybody on the board
protects the queen.
How are you doing that?
Because you, you wouldn't be.
You letting everybody into yourkingdom, but you ain't really

(01:31:40):
secure.
You doing this from a godlyplace okay, we can raise, it
ain't even no competition.
You doing this from a godlyplace Okay, we can raise this,
but she won't.
It ain't even no competition.
Honey, that's your life.
It ain't got nothing to do withme.
At the same time, it gotsomething to do with me.
You're going to bring thatenergy home.
Is that an energy that we want?
I don't want that energy.

(01:32:01):
It ain't got to be fromjealousy.
It ain't none of that.
I got married again.
I got a husband.
The girl called me ugly.
She said oh you ugly.
That's what she said to meComing into it.
Oh damn.
Called me one night and shesaid every time he comes here we

(01:32:25):
up.
I said why didn't you tell methat?
Why didn't you tell me that?

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Right, what was her?
Thing?

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
What was your reasoning behind that Slim Like
click.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
I gave her something to sit on and marinate on.
I gave her something to sit andmarinate on, but she also got
mental health issues when hewanted to leave.
She come looking for him.
She got guns looking for himwhat but that's his karma.
That's what he needed.
That's what he didn't want tolisten to.
He wanted to have his lowestself got him, and one of his

(01:33:00):
wife was sneaking off to get hisother wife and all that.
You got exactly what youdeserve, bro.
You ain't never going toelevate, bro.
You ain't never gonna elevateout of that.
You ain't never.
That's the kind of woman thatyou wanted and you stuck with.
I'm good, I don't need nobodypopping up in my house following
me in the car.
That's the kind of woman Guysyou can get in the car he taking

(01:33:22):
me.
You understand, I've beenthrough things in life.
I'm going to mental healthservices about things that's
going on in my life and he wasan advocate for you.
Hold on.
I'm talking about not you, holdon, but what I'm saying is she.

(01:33:42):
He said you was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Nah, whatever he said you was crazy.
Nah, whatever he said you wascrazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Yeah, he said I was crazy.
I said yeah, I was like.
Okay, she told her, I was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
That was venom.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
I said I'm crazy Okay .

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Yeah, that was venom all the way.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Yeah, all the way, I'm crazy, but I ain't pulling
up.
Yeah, I'm not, but I'm going totalk about things that's going
on in my life or went on in mylife previous to him you know
what I mean and getting it outin my own way.
Meanwhile, help me get abusiness.
You go sneak off.
Get this crazy girl pulling upfollowing me.
See, that type stuff.
Get niggas you go sneak off.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Get this crazy girl pulling up following me.
Man, see that type stuff.
Get niggas in the pool facedown Dead Like thin line between
love and See y'all brothers,better stop this foolishness man
thinking that y'all can havethese two wives and treat them
any kind of way and then you canjust slack off.
No, like the sister said, ifyou got two wives you got to
kind of way and then you canjust slack off.

(01:34:48):
No, like the sister said, ifyou got two wives you gotta go
double hard, my nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Hold on, y'all.
Can't be no bitch-ass niggas.
Can't be no bitch.
Y'all, some bitch-ass niggas.
These ones that advocate for alot of y'all, that for polygamy
is some bitch-ass niggas.
Mm, mm and bitch ass and youwant to marry and make somebody
else your bitches.
Some of y'all is just gotsisters living in crazy house.

(01:35:16):
One sister I know they was inpolygamy.
They ain't got no electric orwhat.
It's a shell of a house.
Two of them in the housetogether.
Two of them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
I knew a brother that had two wives and they stayed
in a studio apartment.
I'm like I went over there onetime and I'm looking like where
your other wife sleep at.
He's like, yeah, this otherroom right here.
I said nigga, this is yourliving room.
Like this, your living roomslash event room, slash
congregation room, slashbathroom slash kitchen?

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
Never.
I don't want to be up under nobroad all day, and that's
abusive.
That's mental health.
That's a mental health issue.
Okay, I get it with thepolygamy.
Come on now, bro.
I don't care, go ahead.
I want some mad at you.
Go ahead.
Matter of fact, I want some metime.
Anyway, hey, go ahead though.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
I don't care, I ain't gonna be calling you.
I'm so cool with my last ex.
He went to in a week with hisex.
I didn't feel no type of way.
I wasn't jealous, I wasn't.
That was my girl.
I talked to her on the phoneall the time.

(01:36:32):
In their house we spent a bitwhile no polygamy thing.
Like I ain't no jealousy here.
We cool, we cool.
Like it ain't nothing.
Usually it be dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
But that's when the real stuff came out.
You know what I'm saying, youknow what I mean, but I'm just
saying like I ain't, I ain't,they wasn't doing nothing crazy
or nothing, but they, you knowher real feelings like you know
what I'm saying Right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
So how do you feel about a lot of these brothers
that that are in this, I'm goingto say, in the Hebrew Israelite
religion, that are in theHebrew Israelite religion, that
push that a lot, push polygamy alot and push it like it's
supposed to be the norm in ouryou know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
like it has to happen .
They got mama issues, they got,um, insecurity issues and, you
know, talk like you could go geta sister and just take care of
her.
Give her some money once in theblue.
Maybe you only can afford anextra $100 to give away to a

(01:37:50):
sister that you show interest inand wait until you get some
more money.
Stop trying to fool yourmanlyhood and ruining yourself
and ruining yourself Like theygot.
I feel they have.
They're misguided.

(01:38:13):
You got the right idea.
A lot of these women that dohave children it wasn't just
them that had the baby.
What about the guy that ain'taround?
You ain't looking at him.
No type of way, right?
Some of these sisters do needan extra $100 from a brother
that shows interest, absent ofintimacy.

(01:38:34):
There's still polygamy inanother type of way Helping
around once a book yeah, I ain'tgiving a nobody note, but you
see interest in her, but youwant to cause harm, living in a
studio apartment?
Come on now You're the onethat's, the only one that's
benefiting around here, becauseI know as a woman we got to.
That's why I said, so many mendon't understand, when they got
mama issues, they got womanissues.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Because you need to let a woman show you that this
woman needs.
She got a cycle, a differenttype of clock in her body and
she needs her own fun to relaxin.
Sometimes we can get along.
There ain't nothing about usgetting along because we love
you, bro.

(01:39:17):
We're going to do what we needto do to make you happy.
Get us out of this studioapartment, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
No, don't have us in the studio apartment in the
first place From the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
That's why I say he be honest, just give her $100,
$200 a month.
Hey, I'm going to build myselfup.
I can't afford you, but I wantyou to know this is what I can
afford.
To me I'll be like ooh yeah,wait, wait, let me get you, let
me get you Right, let me get youup together Right, and we can
speak.
I'll hold on for you, I'll holdon sugar and he's talking like

(01:39:52):
that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
That's real.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Yeah, I'll hold on if you say you know what I mean.
Like I told you, like I don'tknow, I'm just keeping it a bump
.
Like I asked you know hetelling me he interested in
marrying me and he has helped meout numerous amount of times.
You know what I'm saying and Ireally I don't want to be.

(01:40:13):
You know I was coming fromhomelessness.
I don't want to go back to thatand I'm not.
But if I'm honest and I'm like,hey, I need this, I'm getting
all my things, gettingeverything I need, like you know
what I'm saying.
I'm like, hey, I need this, I'mgetting on my feet and get
everything I need.
Like you know what I'm saying.
That cost everything, costain't nothing for you and I need
an extra couple dollars to getto work.

(01:40:35):
Like he just helped me out andhe ain't have it.
He ain't have it today.
I had to pay this, I had to paythis, I had to pay that.
Well, let's not talk aboutmarriage and all of your fears
of marriage.
I fear that I can't do that.

(01:40:55):
We've been friends for a longtime and we've been friends,
I'll say, 20-something years.
We might just need to maintainthat.
And we've been friends, I'd say20-something years, we might
just need to maintain.
And that I ain't saying likeyou know what I mean Like, and
I'm being patient, like we'vebeen cool, like for forever.

(01:41:18):
Like if you already got in yourmind you don't want the
friendship to end and like itain't never got to, but you
already put it in your mind thatit's going to.
I don't want to deal with fear.
I they never got to, but youalready put it in your mind that
it's going to.
I don't want to deal with fear,I'll deal with faith.
So this time you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
A lot of your brothers like you know what I'm
saying y'all just got to goahead and grab that stuff that
you you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
Make it work, right, make it work.
And I ain't knocking he downy'all.
He might not just have it atthis time, you know what I'm
saying.
And he's worrying about thefriendship or whatever.
Like I ain't going nowhere,like we going to be friends,
like, but I ain't.
I want somebody that's 100%strong.
Don't come over here with that50-50 stuff, right, give me 100.

(01:42:14):
So a lot of these brothers'problem is they don't know what
a relationship is.
And you try to with the wrongones.
That put that devil seed in you.
And now God is trying to seethrough with this woman and you
just you got all these fears.
That ain't got nothing to dowith it, because I'm a blessing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
But you can't.
You can't follow brother forbeing, you know, apprehensive on
certain things.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
I'm not talking about .
It's not a fault.
It's not a fault.
I'm not faulting them.
I'm not faulting them.
It's not a fault.
Right, it's not a fault.
I'm telling you what I know forme.
If I know, 100% sure that Iain't going to back you, I ain't
going to.
We still going to be friends.
I'm telling you that.
Do whatever.
That's my word.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
And you and you saying you don't want the
friendship to mess up, thenthat's something you need to
work out, but not on my time,not on my time, not in no
relationship.
See, we already got arelationship, we friends.
You know, what I'm saying, butyou ain't working that out.
Your insecurities, you notworking them out on me.

(01:43:25):
You supposed to have thatalready worked out.
I got mine already worked out.
I ain't worrying about youtalking to no woman or having a
female friend or you know,because I know it ain't.
But if I tell you that she likeyou more, you know what I'm
saying and she letting on, thenyou need to listen.

(01:43:47):
That ain't jealousy speaking,that's real and I ain't telling
you.
You got to back up and with mylittle son we was so cool.
He be like I know she like me,but I ain't into that.
I love you and I was like Iain't you know.
We was on the thing Like Idon't got to, we ain't got to
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
We be going in the room with somebody trying to you
know what I mean he be like.
I know he feeling you.
That's the relationship I have.
We laugh about it or whatever,and not like we knocking it,
like you know what I'm saying,right, right, but whatever,
ain't one insecure or whatever.
So I'm just saying, like a lotof them they be insecure already

(01:44:33):
from something else.
You ain't never heard of me.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Try me, it's guaranteed, it's good, but you
can't call it an insecurity if aman is apprehensive about just
because he don't know you.
I don't know you, so I don't.
I can't put.
I ain't talking about you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I getyou, I get you, but I'm just
saying, but still, I ain'tsaying for you but I'm saying

(01:44:59):
for still trust yourself Notbeing apprehensive.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
You tell me I get you on that.
I get you on that I feel theenergy like yeah, trust yourself
yeah, I feel you on that, andif it's something that you don't
like, you can you can tell meyeah now that you put it like
that, I feel what you're sayingnow yeah, trust yourself, yeah
trust yourself to make the right, decision right that's what
you're telling me already.
You don't trust that you youknow what I mean.

(01:45:28):
You're telling me that already,so why would I proceed in that
way?
I love you still, but you knowwhat I mean.
If I got a dude like you know,we could talk with we never
going to talk about norelationship again, because I'm
good, I'm loyal to what I mean.
You know what I mean, but youknow what I mean.
I know that that was it, butthat you know what I mean, but

(01:45:51):
I'm going to respect who I'mwith, Right, but we can keep it
like that, like friends, likethat Like, and the one I'm with
ain't going to be like I'm notgoing to cut off no 20-something
year friendship yeah, eventhough he is here, but we never
gonna talk about it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
It ain't gonna be no awkward situation, right, right.
Yeah, I feel you on that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
I definitely feel you on that matter of fact, I'm in
the room with my nine oh my ex,who?
I ain't hot.
I'm not hot.
Why you gonna pick it up anyway, like, if you will, you know it
ain't nothing like, come on hey, y'all you know what I man this

(01:46:37):
has been.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Uh, we, we went through a couple different
topics and, you know, even had,you know, a little debate too,
and it was a beautiful thing,the build was beautiful and you
know, I appreciate the sisterman because she keeps me on my
toes, like definitely like keepsme thinking about different
things, that you know that Ineed to check my cell phone,

(01:46:59):
like you know what I'm saying,like, and to know that you know
we got sisters out here, that'sdoing it.
To know that you know we gotsisters out here, that's, that's
that's doing it, like that'sputting a foot forward and
putting their best foot forwardwith us and and not taking the
bullshit from a lot of us,because a lot of brothers can
put up, put up a lot of bullshit.
I can't say I'm one of them, soyou know I'm saying like yeah,

(01:47:22):
for real like, Like man.
I'm so big onself-accountability Because
that's the only way I'm going togrow.
That's the only way I grow,that's the only way I get better
If I hold myself accountablefirst for the things.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
I do.
But that's why I said to youI'm an open book where some
people ask questions to judge.
I ain't saying you, but justlisten to what I'm saying.
They judge.
You know what I'm saying andhow you ever going to grow
without the self-accountability?
You know what I'm saying and Iain't saying that I was the one

(01:48:00):
and I ain't taught that.
I ain't in that sense you knowwhat I mean.
But if I got something to say,listen to what I'm saying.
It hurt me to argue with theone I'm with.
It hurt to hurt me.
I don't want to do that.
We can live in harmony around itdoes we can be able to talk

(01:48:21):
about anything, bro.
Like you said a little, but itwas always love.
I ain't like look who youtalking to yeah.
And I needed you to hear thelove from me.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
I'm saying yeah, and that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
I was like I wasn't mad or I didn't feel no type of
way.
I just was listening to you,because I yield to wisdom and
good knowledge, I don't care whoit comes from.
Yeah, so I'm just.
It ain't going to never be asituation.
Even when we first met rememberthat time we were on the phone
with the brother and you and himwas going.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
I'm just sitting there looking like but that's
how I knew I couldn't marry him.
Well, no, I'm talking about theother brother and I was like,
hey, bro, I ain't even turningon you.
I was like I don't want to bedisrespected like that, I'd

(01:49:18):
rather just walk away and that'swhat happened.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
I just made sure that it happened.
He called me and was like man,I'm just listening.
You ain't even heard nothingyet.
Both of y'all was just goingand I'm like if we would have
just sat down and listened.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Nah, there was some arrogance in the room, Like he
was.
Like you know who I am, I waslike I don't know whoever you
are.
This is what I'm telling you,what I expect, you're
expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
And I definitely, man .
It was like and nobody wascontrolling us.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
But if I need to be controlled, we can talk about
that Like, hey, if I know you'restill doing that thing, do this
thing.
I'm okay with that.
I yield to Will's wisdom, likeyou said.
But he wasn't being wild.
Nah, he wasn't, and it wascoming from a woman's mouth, so

(01:50:07):
that really angered him yeah, no, it was coming from a black
woman's mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
That's what it was I'm just gonna be real, I'm just
gonna be real it was.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
It was coming from a black woman, a black woman and
that brother, he, he stays.
I did not go with him on himlike that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
I didn't cuss him out , I didn't call him out his name
, it was all respect.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
That's why I didn't get it.
What was he like?
And I told him what was yourproblem, man?
She ain't say nothingdisrespectful to you, nothing
like that.
You just went off because he'sone of those feminine-ass men
that always yeah, man, thebrother got mad at me.
Man got on Facebook anddefamated my character for a

(01:50:56):
whole month and a half.
I say this nigga, it's feelingslike I ain't make not one post
about him, didn't say nothingabout him, nothing.
Everything that I said to himwas in the message, was in
messenger or text I didn't geton social media, nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
He.
I know he was a bitch and so Ihad to.
I I never stopped talking toyou, yeah, definitely.
I never turned that on, like.
And then I like what kind of?
And I did like what kind of?
You know, I'm saying if youalready knew all those, I don't
know if you knew all thosethings about him, but I'm saying
, like you see what it is, cuthim off right, and that's why I

(01:51:33):
don't fuck with him.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
But see, at that time I was like I was trying to like
build a team and that's what Iwas on.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
I understand your heart.
Yeah, but he went the right Somethings you need to see like and
that's why we'll talk about howI try to make it like I'm.
I don't even stop because I waswashing clothes.
I'm cooking.
I got still cooked tonight.
I got things to do.
My day tomorrow is full like I.
I, you know what I'm saying,but I gotta stop you.

(01:52:00):
I love you.
You know what I'm saying, eventhough you know we have
different point of views.
Yeah, I like that.
You like my mind.
I know that spirit worksthrough me With this and the
devil be trying to stop, but Istill got to come through.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
I love you, oh yeah, I love you too, sister.
We spit our truth.
Yeah, definitely that's what wedo on the Spit your Truth
Podcast BFI.
Okay, bfi, bitch of TruthPodcast B and.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Fah Okay, b and Fah, I say Fah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Yeah Right, it's a B y'all, but I say, but you saying
Y'all, fatima, fatima.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
I say it like Real, proper, like Fatima, fatima.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
I'm gonna tell you Everybody, everybody gonna say
my name different.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Yeah, I be trying to Like pronunciate Every syllable
Like.
You know what I'm saying,because I know that it's not an
American name, so I'm trying topronunciate it the way it's
pronounced American way.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
They say Fatima, yeah , fatima, fatima.
Hispanic Fatima, arabic Fatima,fatima, fatima.
Guys with knowledge in Fatimayeah, fatima.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
The guys with knowledge in Fatima.
Yeah, fatima, that's how I waspronouncing it first Catholics
say my name Fatima.
Fatima, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
Like you said, Fatima , it's what my brother said.
That way Everybody.
I can tell a little bit aboutyour background by the way you
say my name.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
That's beautiful man.
All praise.
I remember, and I'm going tosay this y'all, because the
sister got a long day today.
I'm off, so I'm up.
I'll probably go Uber orsomething like that, but I don't
want to hold my sister upbecause I know she got to see me
too tomorrow.
Nah, nah, nah.
I know that you, I'm aconsiderate person, you know,
even though I want to sit hereand build more.

(01:53:56):
But I just know that you knowyou got to do your thing and I
want to get you stuff becauseI'm a considerate person.
I love you sister.
I want to make sure that yousucceed in any and everything
that you do, so.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
I got a final message huh.
I got a final message oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
Well, let me say this before you say your final
message.
Then we go close out.
Hey, this, I'm gonna let y'allknow this, just because me and
my co-hosts have differentopinions, different views, and
that's what makes us work.
That's what makes us work.
That's what makes us work,because if we agreed on
everything, then this shit wouldbe boring as fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Like it would be boring, but we do agree.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Yeah, we agree on a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Yeah, yeah, we do agree and we disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
And that's our.
That's our, that's our.
What is that?
What they call it, how you sayit?

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
The dysfunction, no, that's the function.
Because, like in the beginning,of the conversation when I was
talking about God created thedevil, so, and the angels and us
, or whatever, like it's notonly one way.
It's all ways that people getto God.
Or the all ways that people getto God, right, you know what

(01:55:10):
I'm saying.
Or the most high, or howeveryou say Universe, higher
vibration, whatever you say, yousay, right, like there's many
ways.
You know what I'm saying and we, sometimes people disagree, but
if they really listen to thelove of the most high, you can
see it in anyone.
It's many names.
You got many names, many names.
She got many names.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
So go ahead and hit us with that final message and
let the people know what theyneed to know.
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
Alright, so we're going to wind it up.
I don't know, I ain't been onthat, okay.
So my final message would betalking to you, looking to you,
because there's a lot of thingswe talked about that you can't
the alphabet for us, a lot ofy'all need to work on your

(01:55:58):
feminine energy.
On the opposite end and thehigher vibration of it, you know
what I'm saying.
That's why we on this, uh,mother's day weekend, you know a
lot of a guy real quick.
He had said um, he was like hestarted laughing.
It's like his mother's baby.
He said y'all get all the lovewhen father's day come around,

(01:56:21):
y'all be like I'm a father too.
Y'all you know I'm saying.
A lot of women have been thefather.
You know what I mean and I getit.
It's a lot of absent fathers.
I get it, but stopdisrespecting these brothers.
But if they need some love andyou need to talk to these
brothers and tell them to getright, it's a way to do it, and

(01:56:47):
the brothers need to stoptalking to these women Like the
guy posted on Facebook.
I ain't like, I read it becauseI you know.
I mean.
He said man eating the coochie.
Good, but it's the smell thatbothered me, the after smell.
I said well, why would you eata coochie that had an after
smell?
That was the first.
Second, you know what I'msaying.
Like, you really don't likewomen, bro.

(01:57:11):
Some of y'all, like you, knowwhat I mean.
I love that smell on my face.
It's supposed to have thatsmell.
That's what it does.
But they don't have to have asmell.
That's.
That's the pheromone.
It should.
I can't wait for a pheromone.

(01:57:34):
It should be light enough justfor you to smell.
But if it's not like that,maybe you need to take a shower,
bro, a real one that your mamadidn't know how to teach you
everything.
Like, maybe another man needsto tell you how to really get
clean and a woman needs to teachher how to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Well, you know what I mean so the final message of
the day is get yourselftogetherall self together Right.
And trust in the most high,definitely first and foremost.
But get yourself together andshow love, because if y'all
didn't see out of this wholebuild, if y'all didn't get

(01:58:20):
anything out of this whole build, y'all got the fact that we,
that it's love.
It ain't no malice like likeafter this out man, me and his
sister probably chopping up foranother hour.
So I'm saying, like it's love,and y'all have to understand
that, that we have to put thelove first.
We have to lead with love.
That's the only way that wedon't want everybody because

(01:58:43):
everybody don't love like how Ilove you, right you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
but I said I was at the gas station.
I shook the guy's hand.
I didn't get to that, I wentsomewhere else.
But I shook the guy.
He was a homeless guy.
I was like what's your?
Name.
I shook his hand.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
And he looked at me like you really going to, oh
yeah, yeah, I feel you on that.
Yeah, everybody loves it.
They need it.
They need this love for women,but not in a sexual way, right,
just just that support and thatspeak that life in a man.
You know what one thing, man, Iremember.
I remember when I was at thistruck stop.
This was probably like about 8,9 years ago.
I was at this truck stop and Icame in and the cash register
lady just was like hey, hey, howyou doing, hey, handsome, and

(01:59:36):
was like I hope you have a niceday.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
This and this and that it was just real nice to me
like and I still remember thisbecause that shit resonates-
with me, because that shit, thatshit resonates with me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
We remember that shit forever.

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
Yeah, yeah.
So man, it'll be in a sexualway, Like, wow, you look really
nice today.
Right man Like hey, like hey,you look good, hey honey.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
Your cologne smell good.
Yeah, just anything.
Man like yay, you look good.
Hey, honey, your coat, yourcologne smell good.
Yeah, just anything.
Man like we we get, we, we loveto get that.
Uh, we look just like y'all, welove them.
Compliments, I eat that shit.
I ain't gonna lie like becauseit, because half the time, man,
I'll be feeling like I ain'tlike you know, like I'm just
gonna be real y'all, like I'llbe feeling like I ain't that
nigga, like I ain't the shit,like I ain't this like so just

(02:00:28):
to hear it like I don't know,you know, but come on, you know,
somebody needs to tell you that, like hey, won't you?

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
uh, all right, real talk, all right.
All right, I gotta go back.
I'm like man, I'm telling youthat somebody needs to put that
into you, right, because RealTalk is this big dude.
Right, he's big, like he's bad.
He a big guy, big guy, right,right.

(02:00:56):
But he to me he's like he ain'tgot room, like he don't wear no
pants.
It probably make him look likehe pull him up.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
Right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
But he wears pants, sagging, they look nice.
He got a long shirt.
You don't see, you know what Imean.
Like he big, like big, pun, big, like he big.
But he fly To me.
You know what I'm saying and Ime, you know, and I'll be.

(02:01:29):
I I asked, I'm like where it is.
I'm asking them questionsbecause I mean to me, you know
me, you know reality, big guy,the stuff you know run through
my mind in other ways, you knowyeah, I get it but I'm saying,
you know, because I you knowabout, you know I'm a big girl
like well, how are we going?
I run through my mind like howare we?
You know about, you know I'm abig girl like well, how are we
going?
That went through my mind likehow are we?
Well, I don't want to testchild.

(02:01:50):
Maybe I don't want to test.
You know what I'm saying I getit I I don't know, so I just
know like but I'm telling, Imean like I make sure I tell
them because I know peopleprobably just looking at the
weight, I make sure, like yo,you look good today, you look
real nice today.

(02:02:10):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't feel I get it.
I get it.
Self-confidence is good and Igot a little.
I ain't the most confidentperson, like when I was younger
I was, I was conceited likecocky to the point Like, but now
it's like I got older and shit,like it's like man I ain't.

(02:02:37):
I don't know, I don't know Idon't know, I don't be feeling
like I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
I'm serious man.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
I feeling like I'm not seeing it.
I don't know.
I guess when I was younger, Idon't know, I didn't care about
my appearance.
You know I did, but I didn't.
You know what I'm saying and Ihad my own way.
I started to find my way.
Right, and I just I didn't lovemyself like I love me, but have

(02:03:10):
I not gone through that, Iwouldn't be where I'm at right
now.
You know what I'm saying, so Iwouldn't pour that to you.
If you used to feel, you knowwhat it feel like, get it back
there.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
I don't know how to well, I'll speak life into you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
Get it back there.
I don't know how to well, I'llspeak life into you.
You know what I'm saying, youknow, but you gotta speak it
into yourself.
It's more powerful within.
It's only birth and beginning.
And don't tear yourself down,see, start telling yourself the
beauty that you see around you.
So that's the beauty that camefrom you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
It's nice to know that somebody like notices that
you see around you.
So that's the beauty that camefrom you.
It's nice to know that somebodylike notices that you know hell
yeah notice a motherfucker likeI don't want to be like this, a
motherfucker that just walkaround, I'm invisible to
everybody, like shit, kinda hurtman.
But it is like before I evenget emotional or anything or
even start talking about how Itruly feel about shit, we go in

(02:04:06):
this shit right now Because weis not about to go there, I
already feel myself takingsomewhere, going somewhere.
I ain't, but I'll pray to themost high y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
Well, look you talking about emotion.
You just about to get in yourfeelings.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
See.
I'm in tune with my feelings.
I'm not that type of brotherthat won't cry, won't tell you
how I feel about shit and won'tbe angry or sad or scared.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
They say that in the net.

Speaker 2 (02:04:37):
I'm just saying man, it's just time and a place.
You know what I'm saying, butI'll praise to the most.
How to Suspicion Truth Podcast.
Man, it's been a beautiful dealwith my sister and my co-host,
fatima, fatima, fatima.
I'm going to say what the fuck?

(02:04:58):
Because that just hit different, that just hit a whole lot
different.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
Yeah, what the fuck Right.

Speaker 2 (02:05:05):
I remember when I first met her she used to hit us
with that what the fuck Boy?
I used to be weak as hellbecause she'd do the little
video and then at the end it'dbe like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
What the fuck?
Yeah, man, I'll praise man.
It's a beautiful thing.
Man, we gonna give y'all moreof these, man.
Y'all go get more of them.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
Remember, you know what.
I want to pause too, becauseearlier he was talking about the
arguments, but it was two times.
He was a witness of the menacting crazy.
Yeah, Would our brother go?
Shy y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Yeah, yeah, I witnessed and I miss my bro.
Rest in peace.
But yeah, I witnessed somethingthat it was just like and I had
to tell that brother like man,you foul bro, oh you know, like
he been held, been held and Ihad to break it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:58):
And I still showed him love after that.
I was talking to him before andI still was like where you at
you, big belly, I like bigbellies man.

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Yeah, he wasn't.
He wasn't at that time.
He was just out for to see howhe but he's not in a situation.
He was trying to get out of asituation and be in a situation
where he was safe and had aplace to stay and he was just
like, yeah, he wasn't stable, soit a stable man, stable body,

(02:06:31):
ain't a stable man, so he ain'tgonna have stable thoughts.
That's what we got.
I miss him, man, when he died.
Talk about that.
I feel myself going there too.
I miss my bro.
I just wanted to know.
I just wanted to talk to him.

(02:06:53):
I loved him.
I just wanted to talk to himone last time.
I loved him.
He died down in Louisville byhimself.

Speaker 3 (02:07:09):
I talked to him when he was staying in the airport.
He was working in the airport,yeah, yeah, yeah, rent a room in
the airport and he was reallypushing.
And I talked to him when Ithink he was in Colorado and, um
, I think he had a big heart, Imean, and he was, I was with him

(02:07:34):
.
That's how I met you, like youknow.
I mean he was like, yeah, youare like he loved part of me.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
He was shut part, yeah, like it's all love bro,
like hey, I'm over yeah, I just,I just I feel bad about some
shit and I just feel I just wishthat it had went down the way

(02:08:01):
it went down and I had more timefor me, and that just let me
know, and that just let me know,and that just let everybody
know.
Don't know when you gonna begone one day you here, the next
day you gone.
Man, you don't know.
Man, show love, keep love.
Stop being on this bullshit.
All this beef and all this dumbass shit is worthless.

(02:08:23):
Man, cause that might not behere tomorrow and your ass will
be feeling like me stupid asfuck.
This is spit your truth podcast.
Your boy Abiyah and my sisterFatima D.
What the fuck?
He just spit our truth and hey,it's a beautiful thing.
Y'all.
Y'all better know thatWednesdays, every Wednesday, at

(02:08:47):
12 pm Eastern Standard Time, wegot a new episode dropping.
Check us out.
We up to episodes 18 right now.
Well, let me see, 16 is aboutto drop, 16 just dropped this
Wednesday.
17 is next week, 18, and thenwe're going to keep on doing

(02:09:07):
them, man, we just going to keepon doing them until the most
high tell us to stop, becausethis is the truth that we spit
and we got to let people knowand we got to let everybody get
their chance to do it.
So if you want to get on here,hit me up, hit Fatima up and
we'll get you on here and wewill let you spit your truth.
But just know, we might notagree with you, we might not

(02:09:32):
agree with you.
So don't come on here in yourdamn feelings, trust me.
If you ain't in this feelings,I have a conversation, debate
with you.
The next day.
You want to throw this joint upand smoke me.
You know, I'm saying that's howI am, because I'm with me,
being with me.
But yeah, I don't smoke witheverybody either, right?

Speaker 3 (02:09:56):
sometimes we, we, you gotta be mad at your opinion,
but everybody don't feel likethat.
I'm good, right that's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
That's what it is.
But at the end of the day, Ijust know like, don't come up
here on your in your feelings,because I'll go, let you have it
like I'm I ain't gonna saynothing i'm'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (02:10:25):
I was around some, so they be like I ain't gonna say
nothing, I'm gonna let her getit.
Yeah, I'm gonna just step backand then you act up.
You gonna get it from the otherside and bop, bop bop every
side, upside your head too.

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
So y'all have a good night, good day.
Well, it's 12 o'clock, it'sprobably like one, right so in
the afternoon.
So y'all have a good night.
I just said that Y'all have agood evening, man.
Hopefully y'all get home, drivesafely, buckle up, keep your
eyes on the road, stay focused.
Make it home to your family.
They need you, they need you.

(02:11:01):
So make it home to your family,make it home to your loved ones
and love them, because youdon't know they will punch that
damn clock.
It's your boy.
Spit Beer on the Spit, yourTruth Podcast with your sister,
my sister, patsy Mamadi, and wesigning out y'all Peace, peace.

Speaker 3 (02:11:24):
Salam, assalamu alaikum.

Speaker 2 (02:11:25):
All that stuff, all that stuff, all that stuff, and
a happy Pazdu too.
Okay, like you can't say that,yes, I can.
Pazdu, right, pazdu All right,y'all All right, peace, thank

(02:11:49):
you.

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