June 25, 2025 • 76 mins
We explore the world of herbalism and natural healing with certified herbalist LC Israel, who shares her journey and practical wisdom about reconnecting with the earth's natural remedies.
• Transitioning from conventional medicine to herbalism as a way to care for family and community
• The connection between spiritual awakening and natural healing practices
• How modern society deliberately separates us from natural resources that could heal us
• Specific herbal remedies for common ailments like migraines, arthritis, and inflammation
• The importance of grounding practices like walking barefoot and spending time in nature
• Tips for growing your own herbs and vegetables even with limited space
• Why many health problems stem from inflammation that can be addressed through diet and herbs
• The concept that "if you can't eat it, you shouldn't put it on your body"
• Men's and women's specific herbal needs, including warnings about certain herbs
• How capitalism has created a health system that profits from illness rather than wellness
Find LC Israel on Facebook and her Etsy shop called Herbal Crown where she offers teas, hair oils, body butters, and other natural products for health and wellness.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
oh, praise to the most, how?
What's going on y'all, man, we,we sleep back, we back.
And you know, it's anotherwednesday and I'm feeling good,
y'all.
I'm feeling good about this onebecause this is something that
I take a personal interest in.
I really, really, really wantto pick the sister's brain and
we about to get into it, becausewe're going to spit that truth.
(00:29):
And you already know what thisis, you already know who this is
.
But for those that don't know,and just tuning in to me, and
you know, just fanning thepodcast, this is your boy, ovea,
and this is the Spit your TruthPodcast.
We are hosted by, not on, butby the Set Apart Music Radio
Station and, yeah, we got aspecial one today, y'all, like
(00:53):
they all special to me, but thisone definitely near and dear,
because I feel like your sisterhas a lot of jewels to tell us,
a lot of information, and we go,definitely, let her spit her
truth.
So, without further ado, I'mgonna introduce my sister, lc
the herbalist.
Hey, I'm telling you y'all, sheshe cold with it, and we about
(01:13):
to pick her mind too, becauseshe's a very well, well-learned
sister.
So, without further ado, goahead, sister, you know, let the
people know who you is and youknow what you do.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Let the people know who you is and what you do.
Praise, yeah.
Shalom everyone.
My name is Elsie Israel.
I'm a certified herbalist.
I've been doing this for abouta few years now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm a mother, a wife and yeah, I'm excited to get
into this interview.
Oh praise, oh praise.
So you said that you've beendoing the herb thing, the
herbalist.
You've been an herbalist forlike how many years, you said.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just a few years.
I recently got my certificationa year ago, but I've been
dealing with herbs for yeah justa few years, like about three.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Hey, she be on the internet, y y'all whipping up
the body butters.
I'm like, is there anythingyour sister can't do?
Like I'm saying like she justgot all types of you know
killing stuff for your body andtopicals and tin trees.
She did a juice the other day.
It was like I got a perfect.
I'm like I wish I could smellit.
(02:24):
I know it tastes good, but whatwas that tea that you, that
juice that you was making since?
Was it a tea or a juice?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I appreciate that and it's a.
It's actually a lemonade.
I like to classify myself as aexcuse me.
I like to classify myself as ahobbyist, I like to just.
I have this feeling that I justneed to learn how to do
everything the most priceless,but I feel always, and so I'm
(02:53):
just really trying to figure outhow to work with my hands in
all categories of life.
But specifically to answer yourquestion, it was a hibiscus
sour stop lemonade that I madeand, funny enough, I sell at the
farmer's market locally andit's the first thing that sells
(03:15):
out every Wednesday and I'm like, oh my goodness, like I gotta
now I gotta come up with morerecipes and flavors for the
people.
But yeah, I'm so glad I wasable to come across that and
perfect it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Alright, it looks and tastes good.
I'm like man, I wish I couldorder this stuff.
I want to, you know, order it.
I love the earth.
I love like pink trees comingfrom the earth.
You know what the most theearth, I love, like pink trees.
I love all this stuff likecoming from the earth.
(03:48):
And you know what the most.
I told him to do like.
So I'm all over it.
And when I see brothers,especially sisters, because the
sisters like y'all take a, y'allreally take a like, take to it
like more than us like, and andit's a reason why because the
most I like put that in y'all'sDNA to you know to be that type
of you know Mother Earth, like,you know in tune with the Earth
(04:11):
and everything that's going on.
So it's a beautiful thing.
So you said that, uh, so howlong have you been in the?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
tree Since for about five years now.
This year will make five years.
Yes, not too long.
I'm still a baby lifting, soI'm definitely in the phase of
finding my purpose as a womanspecifically.
So it's a journey.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's a lifelong journey, yeah and you, uh, and
you said this like five years,so how was it like making the
transition?
Like what was he?
Was he like a christian or arastafarian or what was like?
It was like I was a rastafarianbefore I came.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Really yeah, and it is that very similar to uh
hebrew?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
well, in some ways they have like the Cabanastric
that you see, and then they havethe Holy Pippi and it was like
a mix of Christianity andRastafarianism, you know, and it
was a little too much at times.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Do they recognize Yahweh?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh, yeah, okay, they know that they're the children
of Israel and all that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, okay, they know that they're the children of
israel and all that good got you.
Okay, they just, you know, givepraise to harry selassie, and
I'm like, yeah, that's somethingI can't do, but you know, other
than that, like I'm like thereligion is, like, it's a clean
living, like well, that's great.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, specifically about my background, um,
background, I was born and grewup in Ghana and so, with Ghana
being colonized by the British,of course there's a lot of
Christianity there, and so webrought that here.
And when I got into my early20s I kind of steered away from
(06:01):
the church because I was workingspecifically on like Sundays
and stuff, and so I was justlike, yeah, this is, this, is
not it.
And then I met my now husbandand he's the one who ultimately
introduced me to this way oflife and, um, outside of him, it
(06:22):
was, for me, it was just veryit was the easiest transition,
simply because the answers I'vealways had in church were never
answered.
But with this way of life, withbeing finding out that I'm
hebrew, of the questions wereable to be answered and this way
of life is more realistic thansuperficial or make believe.
(06:43):
So it's more logical.
I should say, it matches withreal life.
You get what I'm saying.
Just a plain example you can'ttell me that a spirit got you
pregnant.
The most high says go into awoman and get her pregnant.
That's more real life.
You get what I'm saying.
To me, it was just the logic ofit all just made more sense,
(07:07):
yeah okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So in the early days, you know, this was like you
know, you was going to churchand and you said you kind of wow
, yeah, we about to talk aboutthat.
So how was it like that?
Growing up in Ghana?
Um, I moved here when I was 10.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So it was definitely my early childhood, but it was.
It.
Was it like that.
Growing up in Ghana, I movedhere when I was 10.
So it was definitely my earlychildhood, but it was fine.
Like I mean, you don't knowwhat, you don't know, right, you
don't know when you areessentially sheltered to a small
surrounding or environment, youdon't see what the world has.
(07:43):
So for me, my childhood wasgreat.
It was a lot of fun, I had aregular childhood and then you
come here and the world is muchbigger and scary, but you know,
it was good.
I'd like to say that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So how did they?
How did they depict Americans,Y'all, he was over there.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Everybody's rich.
Everybody's rich and living thegood life, what For sure?
And then, even till this veryday, my family thinks I'm big
balling.
I'm like, listen, people getmoney, but they pay their bills
with all their money.
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You get that money and it be gone that same day.
Sometimes, like I think that'swhat hurt the most, like when
you get paid, you work all yourweek, your two weeks and get it
in.
It'd be gone that same hour.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
We're all slaves to this capitalism.
Right Catholic world.
It's unfortunate, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Very.
But you know, at the end of theday, we know, hopefully, we, we
will be, you know, reprimandedfrom not reprimanded, but we
will be redeemed from thehardships that we go through.
All praise, oh yeah.
So when you came over here toGhana and you, what part did you
(09:01):
, what part of the United Statesdid you go to first, or did you
come straight to RIO?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
My father lived in Colorado, so he's the one who
brought my mom, myself and mybrother to Colorado.
So we lived in Colorado mywhole life.
And then when I met my husbandin Colorado, he, you know,
pandemic hit.
And he was like you know, ourpeople are here in Cincinnati
because we have a sanctuary here.
(09:29):
So he's like pandemic hit, wedon't have anybody here really
in Colorado.
Let's, you know, let's move toOhio, because our people are
there.
We don't know where this worldis going to.
You know where this world isgoing to go, so let's go be with
our people.
And I was very reluctant atfirst.
I was just like, yeah, I'venever I've traveled.
I've been away for like a weekor two for my family, but to
(09:53):
make that permanent move.
I was very hesitant for a fewmonths.
But with the way pandemic hit,we just really didn't know.
So I was like, okay, you know,if I'm supposed to trust my
husband, that's what I'm gonnado.
So here we are, five yearslater, we're still here.
How do you like it?
I don't like it I don't likeohio whatsoever, I don't know.
(10:18):
It's just it's so bland, it's soold, the roads are terrible.
It's just.
There's nothing fresh aboutOhio.
No offense to anybody who loves?
The city, but for me.
I just live here right, I getit.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, it is.
It can be.
You know, I've been living inhere all my life and it can be
like the same old stuff and theyreally trying to.
They ain't't like I don't thinkthat is regentifying, I think
that is like just building up.
Now, gentifying is when theytaking niggas out of battle or
black folks up out of spots, youknow, and moving them into a
(10:58):
different area, like away fromtheir jobs and their resources,
like it ain't regentifying ifyou giving Black folks a better
place to stay, like you give mea better place to stay than
Lincoln Heights, not LincolnHeights, but like lower homes
(11:18):
and you know, like Top Lock andall that, like, yeah, the West
End, give me a better place tostay.
Y'all might be kicking me out,but at least I'm trying to make
my way, I guess.
But you know, at the end of theday I think that, yeah, that's
crazy, it is really bland andstuff like that.
So when you came here it waslike, all right, we here, we
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locked in, and what class didyou go to?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We go to the one on Kemper Lane.
Okay, I'm not sure if you'refamiliar with that.
Yeah, house of Israel, kemperLane.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, shout out to Shia and all them brothers over
there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
His son Natalia.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Natalia Obadiah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Obadiah and the brother Cypher.
All of them.
Yeah, I rocked with all of them.
Great teachers, absolutely Okay.
Okay.
So I thought you looked, I'mnot even going to lie.
Have you been there?
No, I don't, I don't, I'm noteven going to lie.
Have you been there?
no, I, I recognize your husbandfrom a Unity Shabbat oh yeah, I
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recognize because I I've seenhim before like and I'm like,
hold on, like I thought Ithought y'all.
I'm like I thought they lived,but then I'm like I don't know I
was, I'm just beingscatterbrained sometimes it's
okay, I don't really like todisclose my location anyway oh
yeah, definitely, definitely, Iget it and we can be, we can
(12:51):
bleep it out, like you know ohno, don't worry about that.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm not when it comes to like the internet
specifically, I'm like I don'twant.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh yeah, you know people to know where I live.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So yeah, just for safety reasons.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I get it.
The internet can't be a crazyplace, man.
But just know that if you bringin some drama, like the
brothers in the house of IsraelKemper, they don't play.
They don't play about theirpeople for real.
I can't say that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Don't pray to God.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You down with their class and you go to their class,
they look out for you, likethey definitely look out.
There's some good brothers downthere.
I'm saying some good brotherslike you know all praises like
and it you know it.
It's a good thing that you know, because I remember when it was
down there, it was downtownlike, and it was like it was in
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the trenches like, and theystill was there like, like you
know, every Sunday, like givingout food and stuff like that and
feeding the poor, feeding thehomeless, and all that Like it
was a beautiful thing.
I remember they was doing afeed the poor circuit or
something like that, goingaround in different cities.
I don't know what happened toit, but I remember they was
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doing it.
I'm like, yeah, that's what.
So that's more, more stuff thatwe need in the information you
know right, that's understood,yeah, yeah so what is the?
what was the?
What was the other thing youwanted to?
You know, do more work withyour hands and, you know, be
(14:26):
more proficient and efficient.
You know, as a mother and awife and a woman, what was the
inspiration behind?
You know, going to get thecertificate and you know, just
really studying up on a holisticmedicine and doubling down on
it being as knowledgeable as youare as you are now.
What was the inspiration?
And doubling down on it beingas knowledgeable as you are, as
you are now?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
what was the inspiration?
My children and my family?
I personally I never grew uplike in like medicine or like
the doctor, or going to ahospital and stuff like this.
So I was just, like you know,my husband started getting some
herbs and I was like, okay, likeyou know, let's expound on this
, let's make this bigger than us.
(15:08):
And so ultimately just tryingto stay away from um modern
medicine and knowing that, likeI said, the most high scripture
says he puts things on thisearth for us to consume and to
heal us.
And so, yeah, just listeningand gaining my knowledge in that
category to to do for my familyand other people, of course, if
(15:33):
they're interested, but mainlyfor my family right and that
that's that's the bestmotivation for real.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
For real, other than the most high your family.
Definitely like just to seeyour family good and healthy,
like like I remember one time Iseen a post you was making.
Uh, it was like making my owntoothpaste or my own butter or
something.
I'm like what, like you know,like where can I bat it?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
say, I think what it even when it comes to like the
basics of um beauty regimen orhygiene.
I do make that myself becauseit doesn't have to be
complicated.
That's one thing I've learned.
It does not have to becomplicated and you can really
just do it yourself if, if youwant to right, it's easy to just
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go to your store and be like,yeah, I just want to go get a
lotion, but then the lotion hasalcohol in it.
Why do you need to put alcoholon your body, on the largest
organ on your body?
You know so.
It's just a matter of howwilling, how willing you're.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know how strong you're willing so you say
alcohol isn't good for your body?
Are you rubbing alcohol?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
no, like some lotions , have alcohol in it.
If you read the ingredients,yeah, it has alcohol in it.
So it's just that initialquestion of why is this
necessary?
I mean, it can be forpreservatives, because it does
have to stay on the shelf for awhile, but it still backs up the
reason of why.
Right, but to me that doesn't.
Um, yeah, if you can't.
(17:07):
Yeah, the bottom line is, ifyou can't eat it, you probably
shouldn't put it in your body oron your body.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Hmm, yeah, I've heard that a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah.
So, when they tell youtoothpaste, you shouldn't
swallow toothpaste Like what.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So yeah, I always wondered like, why do they say
that Like?
But when you brush your teethyou end up swallowing some
toothpaste.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
A little bit of something right.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like is it that bad for you?
I know it had the fluoride init, but you know, is it that bad
for you?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean it's not gonna kill you on the spot, but I
mean over time it is gonna makesome damage.
So then it's, it's a dominoeffect of okay, now you got to
go to the dentist, now you gotto pay a thousand dollars for
this, you got to keep going tothe dentist.
So it's just the cycle ofputting money in these people's
pockets.
Right role of putting money inthese people's pockets.
You don't go to the doctor toget healed because they need
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sick patients to live their life, to afford life themselves.
It's just really a big cycle.
Once you just step out of thatcorrupted mindset, it's a little
freeing.
I would say it's a littlefreeing.
But you know, not thoughteverybody was so cute.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I bet your kitchen's so good, because, hey, for real,
y'all check this out.
Like I, I dated this sisterright and uh, she wasn't in the
tree, but her mother was like aholistic right and uh, every
time we went over her house andwe went in her kitchen Cause she
had all of her herbs and hershelves and stuff like that and
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I mean it just Smoked the timeand the lady was so cold With it
like she could look at you andtell what was wrong, like you
know what I'm saying.
She like killed herself, like,uh, like a form of cancer and
stuff Like that.
I remember that she was wrong.
You know what I'm saying.
She killed herself like a formof cancer and stuff like that.
I remember that she was tellingme that I'm like that's
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's the end goal To just be able to identify
things by just looking atsomebody.
That's a beautiful thing to beable to do.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think that you definitely got to be in line
with your spirit and, you know,like all your chakras in line
and all that good stuff.
Because to be able to feelsomebody's energy and just look
at them like, yeah, bro, youneed this, this, that Like
that's like you know old schoolpriest type stuff.
Like like you know old schoolpriest type stuff, like you know
levite type stuff, you know thelevites, you know I'm saying
(19:55):
yeah, that's crazy, that'sbeautiful yeah, I'm like I.
well, you know, you already knowhow y'all everybody that that
practices holistic medicine andand and stays in a while you end
up being like.
I know another sister that waslike she.
She had cured herself from.
(20:16):
It was another different formof cancer, but it had come to me
once we start talking.
But uh, yeah, she's 80 yearsold, a different form of cancer,
but it'll come to me once westart talking.
But yeah, she's 80 years old.
She's 80 years old, she livesin Alabama.
Well, no, she lives in Savannah.
And this sister, like she sellsherbs and stuff like that.
(20:39):
She makes a lot of good money,like, but I mean she's like one
of those one type sisters thatlike really own it, like be
outside grounded and everything,like you said, like yeah, it's
really all part of the lifestyleyeah yeah, so do you?
do you do you?
(20:59):
Because we I've seen, we and weall have seen like, uh, like
exercise videos and stuff likethat, and congratulations on the
weight loss and all thatDefinitely, definitely, it's
always a good thing when youknow when brothers and sisters
get healthier Like you know whatI'm saying, it's definitely a
good thing.
I need to get healthier myselfand that's what I'm in the
(21:19):
process of.
But we go talk to that, liketalk about that, because I feel
like you can give me a diagnosis, you know we go get to that.
But I uh, I've seen that, youknow that you have you've done
some stuff like that and you'vebeen outside grounded and you
have made videos where youtalked about, you know, certain
(21:40):
things that we should do.
Like you, you know just beingoutside of nature and stuff like
this.
So where, where do you what?
What do you?
Do you ground yourself, like,and when you sleep, like because
I know a lot of people and Ithought about doing it too like
getting some copper and justrunning the land and, like you
know, just grounding myselfwhile I was asleep do you think
that would be a good a thing fora good thing for a person to do
(22:03):
?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
absolutely.
I have all, both my children,myself, my husband, we all have
copper bracelets that we wear 24, 7 um.
First thing, if the sun is niceoutside in the morning, you
know step outside with your barefoot on the grass.
I let my children play in thedirt, you know.
Just really be out in thenature.
I think it's all good for yourinternal.
(22:27):
It's not visibly, it's notvisible but, it's all good for
you and a lot of people.
We live in this microwavesociety where we need to see.
We need to see the effectsright now, in this very moment.
But, um, it's all good for you,right?
It?
It's not bad for you,especially melanated people.
We're very deficient in vitaminD, and so we need that.
(22:50):
That's how I make the sun forus, right.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right, it did make it .
For us, and you know a lot ofpeople.
It does feel good when you justgo outside sometimes and just
stick your feet in the grass.
Remember when we was youngerthey used to tell us don't stick
your feet in the grass, you goget a tapeworm or you go get
this.
It was always the fear.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It was all based in fear.
It surely is We've beenindoctrinated so badly, so crazy
to me.
I just sit back and I'm likewhy would they do that?
Why would they do?
That, why would?
They do that, why would?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
they do that.
But you know, happens, happensto us, and I really think, like
you know, like, because I assess, like nature and things outside
, like man don't be outside anddon't you know?
We used to go outside and be innature when we was younger, but
now it's like man don't beoutside and don't you know?
We used to go outside and be innature when we was younger, but
now it's like man.
It was so rooted in, you know,fear, like the tapeworm, and you
(23:52):
know, if you go out in naturehiking, what if you get lost?
Or what if this?
I mean people.
I'm like man.
How can you get lost if you canjust look at the sun and tell
where you at?
Like, you know that ain't hard,like, but, like you said, it
was rooted in fear and I thinkthat now A lot of people don't
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do it, a lot of people are doingit and a lot of people are
getting a lot, a lot healthierand living healthier lives
because they see, you know, thejunk that we are eating and they
giving us in this country, like, and it ain't just America
because, like, I see othervideos, like in India, where
they be just like, totallyunsanitary with their food.
(24:35):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I've seen those videos too.
It's so crazy, oh my goodness.
And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I'm like man, why would they even serve that stuff
if people sit there, like youin the line, like you waited in
a line?
You get to the front of theline, you see this dude handling
your stuff, like with his handsand his hands dirty, and you
like, nah, I'm good, bro, right,but you done already paid your
money, though, like I'm alreadyhere, I'm already hungry, it's
(25:05):
true right, like what you gonnado I'm not gonna die man, I
gonna take this to take themicroorganisms right, yeah but
that kind of dirt ain't right,but yeah, that's crazy.
So would be the.
What would be it for somebodythat was going through like had
(25:26):
chronic migraines chronicmigraines what would you, what
would be the diagnosis for that,what would you think that, what
would you tell them to take andwhat would you tell them that
was the problem.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Would be to soak your feet in cold water for 20
minutes.
Hmm, to soak your feet in coldwater for 20 minutes.
If you can add maybe somewhat's it called Celtic salt or
pink salt, himalayan salt?
Yeah, that would be my firststrategy when it comes to
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chronic pain, chronic migraines,as you said right but also
intake.
Water intake is important andwhen it comes to water intake,
because the quality of waterhere is so low, I always put
either self-exalt or himalayansalt in my water to bring back
(26:27):
the electrolytes in the water,okay, yeah, magnesium is also
really good for calming yournerves and the blood vessels,
because when you have migraines,it's just a lot of blood
rushing to your head.
So magnesium helps a lot aswell, which also calms your
nervous system, also helps yousleep a lot.
I mean sleep well at night,yeah, so that was that would be
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what I would recommend.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
OK, yeah, recommend, okay yeah, and and do you think
that it would be?
So?
What would be the underliningissue behind like chronic,
because I know it could bedifferent things, like blood
pressure or like the lymphaticsystem or you know, just
different things.
What would you be?
What would you think would bethe the primary one, that like
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the most common for everybodythat has, I think?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
stress Stress would be the underlining thing for
people and inflammation.
A lot of things go back to ourfood, especially here in America
.
A lot of things go back to yourfood.
If we can just eliminate thingsthat inflame us internally, we
could cure a lot of issueswithin ourselves.
So, stress and food, right.
(27:38):
I feel like if somebody getslike a major diagnosis, such as
like cancer or anything, you gotto eliminate half the things
you eat and really go bare andraw when it comes to your foods,
and you'll find it, you know,because a lot of things inside
of us we feed.
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We feed the bad things insideof us when it comes to our diet,
right, sugars, the oils, youname it.
So if we could just eliminatethose things, half of our
problems we've done.
It's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard.
I won't, I have to acknowledgethat it's really hard, but it's
doable, right?
(28:19):
I always ask myself how bad doyou want it?
Which is a motivator to achievewhat I want to do?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So where, where, where would one start, like what
would be the process of likecleaning your system, and then
you know like being healthier,and then you know like being
healthier and then you knowexercising.
So where would be the beginning?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh, my goodness, that is such a vague question.
Where do you not start?
Because now, immediately, Ijust thought about your
deodorant.
You got to detox your body,right?
You got to detox your body,right, you got to detox your
body.
You have to think about, frommorning to evening, what are you
consuming when it comes to yourtoothbrush, your deodorant,
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your lotion, your hair oils,right?
The food, the drinks you'redrinking, the quality of water
you're drinking, and so all ofthese, um, all of these things
play a part in, in yourlifestyle.
It's really about yourlifestyle.
So, when it comes to where doesa person start?
(29:23):
Obviously, it's the food.
It's easy to say food, but, um,a lot of us eat too much food,
too much bad food as well, right?
So I don't know where to start.
It's the food, that's all I cansay, right?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So would you do a detox.
So how long would you do adetox for?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
The thing about detoxing is reality of the
matter is your liver.
Is your detox?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Your liver detoxes anyway, so I don't even like get
into too deep into detoxes, orlike detox teas or detox this.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Your liver does that for you.
So now it just comes down tobeing conscious about what you
put inside of your body, right?
So then, first thing in themorning, do you have to have a
full breakfast?
No, you can grab a handful ofberries and call it a day and
drink some water.
Right, or you could wait, oryou get into my vest, you know,
or you could wait till lunchtime.
You don't have to eat.
I don't know.
We've, we've been, we've beencalling.
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Our mind has been colonizedgreatly.
The thing that we have to eatthree times a day?
We don't have to do that, it'snot necessary, right?
They're just trying to get youto spend money to put in their
pockets.
But, um, yeah, so you don'thave to eat three times a day.
Wait till you're actuallyreally hungry, till you eat.
And when you do eat, you know,eat healthy things, eat your
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greens, I mean carbs.
That's good for you too.
Don't be scared away from, ofcourse, protein, right, and of
course, keep it clean, as themost I say.
But um, it doesn't have to becomplicated.
The beautiful thing about thislifestyle is it's very simple,
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and so, for some reason, we'vebeen taught that simple is bad.
Simple is basic.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But it's really not.
But do you have like a mealprep that you do?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
on weeks a week.
Myself I don't.
When I was like three babies, Iwas a a workout person and I am
still, but I was a no prepperson and stuff.
But no, I don't, because I liketo.
I like to try different things.
I like to try different thingsevery day, but every day it's a
little different when it comesto cooking and whatnot, but I
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always keep it very basic.
We got, you got your meat forfish and you've got your carbs,
and then you've got yourvegetables.
So it's always very simple,especially when it comes to like
even a piece of unleavenedbread.
It's nothing changes, nothingat all.
Same old, same old, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Throughout the week?
Do you can too?
Do you do cans and preservesand stuff like that too?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That is my next goal, that is, my next achievement is
to start canning.
I'm currently gardening rightnow and I plan to do that with
my tomatoes.
I can preserve it through thenext year, so I look forward to
doing that and learning back.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
What kind of tomatoes are you growing?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Just the basic tomatoes.
I mean, I don't remember the,it's just a regular tomato.
I don't remember the terms forit, but yeah, I'm excited to
start canning tomatoes.
I wish there's so manyvegetables over the years
because I'm like I could havedone this, I could have done
that, but you know, it's ajourney, it's all a journey, you
live and you learn, it happenswhen it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
you know yeah.
You learn everything you'resupposed to learn and it happens
when it's supposed to happen.
So what else do you?
What else is growing in yourgarden?
Is this tomato?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I've got tomatoes um jalapenos.
I got some spinach um swisschard, some kale um my husband
wants to do watermelon, but Idon't know.
I think that takes a lot ofreal estate.
I don't want to do that.
Also, cucumber I've donecucumbers over the years and it
(33:38):
just really does take over.
But what else I can't eventhink right now.
Different species of kalewhat's the other thing I think
right now?
Kale is a good blood thing yes,I choose kale over lettuce any
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day.
Absolutely love kale.
I think that's it for now.
I feel like I have someseedlings starting up and a few
peppers.
Some peppers yeah, different,different types of peppers as
well yeah, those jalapenos, alltree.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I had grew one and the tree it got.
So it got so thick and hardy ithad actually like grew like a
little bit of tree, it was likewood and everything.
Really, yeah, that thing waslike producing jalapenos very
two days I love that jalapenosare easy, peppers are very easy,
(34:49):
bro, because they only takelike 20 days.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, oh but same with cucumbers.
You get a lot of cucumbers,yeah, but you got to.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You, got to have space, man.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You got to have some space and it does take a lot of
water to you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Same with tomatoes it requires a lot of water and a
lot of picking them right whenthey're supposed to See.
A lot of people think thatthey're supposed to pick right
when they supposed to see.
A lot of people absolutelysupposed to pick them when they
read.
Now you pick them things whenthey green because if you pick
them while they read and theremight be an insect inside of
that you're right you areabsolutely right, yeah, so you
gotta pull that out I have tomake.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I made so many um jars of pickles last year and I
just started giving them awaybecause I couldn't, my family
could not consume them fastenough.
But you know again.
You live and you learn.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's what's up.
Man, I mean, hey, I wish I hada garden when I had one, you can
.
Yeah, I ain't got the space.
If I had the space, I would Ourprevious home we our previous,
our previous home.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
We did our previous home say what now?
My apologies, um, but ourprevious house.
We had the land and we have thespace.
However, we moved and we don'thave the land anymore.
(36:17):
Like so we decided to um pivotinto doing buckets right
different sizes and as well asdoing the tent which will have,
like the grow light in there.
So it's doable.
I will say that regardless ofland size, it's very doable.
Right comes down to how bad youwant it yeah, how bad you want
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it.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Right, I had a, uh, I had an avocado plant.
It grew for like about a yearand a half, because you know,
avocados they take a littlewhile to grow, yeah, a couple
seasons.
You don't just get an avocado,you gotta germinate that thing
and then it, once it's sprout,then you put it in the ground
and then you gotta let it grow,grow, grow, grow, grow.
(37:01):
It take a while.
Today, something likepineapples, you know, uh it,
yeah, I wish I it takes aboutfive years to have an avocado
and a tree.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's another thing.
I can't wait to purchase landand really have that, really
live that lifestyle of being offthe grid.
You know what I mean?
I love to have fruit trees inthe backyard.
I love that.
That's definitely a goal ofmine, or a goal of ours, I
(37:38):
should say definitely and haveall them chickens yes, and we
had chickens one time and ourneighbors called the health
department on us and we had toget rid of them.
But that was short lived goodtimes.
That was good goodness.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Man, they was just mad because they didn't think of
the plan first.
Sometimes that's all it be.
For real, people just be hatingbecause they just mad, because
they didn't think of it first.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, even in that house we lived in we grew so
much vegetables we gaveeverybody, we gave all our
neighbors like vegetables thatwe couldn't consume.
But that lady who called thehealth department, like look,
everybody got some freshvegetables, but you, oh, because
you wanted to be a snitch.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Right, that's what happened, man, all right.
Hey, it is what it is, thoughyou know hey is what it is,
though you know so if, if,what's the best, the best
holistic thing for likearthritis, if somebody had real
bad arthritis, how could theylike counter reverse it?
(38:49):
Because I know, like holisticmedicine, it reverses a lot for
real.
For real, like it's amazing.
So what would you prescribe?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
When it comes to arthritis, any herd that will
reduce inflammation.
I think arthritis is just yourjoints that are inflamed.
So, yeah, I think arthritis isjust your joints that are
(39:22):
inflamed.
So I have a book that is Ithink it's called Herb Remedies
or Remedies of Herbs, butultimately, the bottom line for
that is just reducing yourinflammatory.
Turmeric is a greatanti-inflammatory as well.
Ginger, peppermint.
(39:42):
Back to magnesium.
Lavender is also great foranti-inflammatory.
So, yeah, just any herbs.
And a lot of the beautifulthing about herbs is one herb
can cure 10 things, right, so?
And a lot of them areantioxidants and
anti-inflammatory a basic one Ithink I would go for.
(40:04):
It would be like nettle leaf.
Nettle leaf has all theproteins and all the vitamins as
well as anti-inflammatory, butum, yeah, nettle and turmeric is
probably should be a go-to whenit comes to, you know, a little
hot cup of tea I love.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I love the way that nettle leaves taste.
I usually use it with uh like,uh woolen and some powder work
uh, woolen and some paddle work.
And yeah, just a little bit ofI probably sometimes I put a
clove in it and I love that.
It is.
Oh they so good, I got to getso good.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I feel like a lot of people underestimate clothes and
the benefits of clothes.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh, it helps with my diet and it helps with like for
the brothers that got stinkybreath and the sisters that got
stinky breath.
It helps with your stinkybreath too.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
No, absolutely.
It's antimicrobial.
It helps with digestion.
Also, antioxidants andanti-inflammatory.
Helps with your blood sugar andum loses your immune system and
your brain protection.
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
That's a lot and you know what man the crazy part
like.
We always was told like, yeah,man, you gotta cut them weeds
and go outside and cut the grassand cut this down, cut that
down, we don't need that, thatain't bad, that ain't good.
Well, it ain't good.
But now we're growing up andit's like man, all the stuff
(41:43):
that we see in these books, thatwe deal with, it was outside
all along.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
No, truly, I can't think of the little yellow
flower that grows as weed inyour yard.
I can't think of the name rightnow, but those are so good as
teas.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
The dandelions or your health?
But then you know, imagine ifpeople with yards just grew and
(42:15):
traded what they grew, but theyfor you to cut your grass.
If you have a hoa, you got tocut your grass.
It has to look manicured.
For what?
right just land that's not beingused.
It's so crazy to me, even whenit comes to like trees.
(42:35):
The only reason a lot of peoplehave allergies is because the
only trees around are male treesand they cut down all the
female trees because the femaletrees will produce this fruit
and they didn't want us pickingfruit off the trees, because
they wanted us to buy it.
Going back to consumers orcapitalists, and it's like this
(42:56):
thing is so deep, they try toreally get us far, far, far away
from the way we're supposed tobe living, according to the Most
High and they really thoughtthis through, and we just eat it
up, eat it up and get itfurther, further away from the
way we're supposed to be living.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's like, wow, I did , like I kind of learned
something and I kind of like gotsome insight.
That's what you just said.
You said all the trees thatthey got is pill trees.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
And that's what creates the pollen and that's
why people get so allergies.
You notice, I don't know,especially in america, you don't
see fruit trees, right?
You rarely see fruit trees.
They purposely cut them downbecause they don't want people
eating for free.
Man, right, right, like howevil do you have to be to not
(43:57):
want somebody to eat for free?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Man, I had a sister that lives in.
Well, I know a sister thatlives in St Lucia named CJ.
She would tell me and sometimeslike because she would do music
with us and stuff like that,but sometimes she would like do
videos with me and she wouldshow like how she'd just walk
(44:23):
outside of her house and justpick off a papaya like, and it'd
just be like that's how itshould be, yeah papayas and
mangoes, I'm like all that onthe ground.
She said, yeah, people just comepast and eat it.
I eat the stuff that's off thetree, but they eat the stuff
that's on the ground.
I said, either way, you win it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's how it should be.
Even the scripture talks aboutdon't clip everything off your
vineyards because it'sessentially for the poor.
That's how it should be.
They want us to buy everythingand work hard to buy those
things.
Capitalism Everything comesdown to capitalism.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
It's always going to go back to that, because the
thing of it is is that we neverlived like that.
We always used a broader system.
Our ancestors, they didn't liveoff the land or on the land.
They lived with the land, youknow.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Right, they lived with the land.
That's beautiful.
They lived with the land.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Because they knew how to use the land, just like how
the land used us.
Remember, think about this.
And this was something deep,like when I, when I, when a
brother brought this to me and Ihad to really research and
think about it like and prayedon it too, like.
So remember when the most hightold us like, hey, when y'all
and y'all land, or when y'allyou know wherever y'all had like
(45:57):
, when y'all doing what y'alldoing at the uh and y'all in the
wilderness, we in the tents,boom, he said, when y'all use
the bathroom, go outside.
And you know, outside the, the,the camp and use the bathroom.
Now think about this.
At times we was there, it wasthere posted for months I'm know
what I'm saying For months.
So just think about all thefertilizer.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Imagine that, including the cattle and the
animals we had with us.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Right so the land is just like Earth, is just like a
big old computer, right so whenyou input information, you get
back certain things from theearth.
Right so when we was putting inour information, our DNA, our
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poop, it was growing what weneeded to heal us and keep us
sustained us.
That man, mother earth is crazy, like it ain't?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
crazy.
It's beautiful, it's justbeautiful for me yeah, but it it
definitely uh, when I, when I,when I, when a brother brought
that to me, I'm like yeah, themulti tells us to let the land
rest for seven, every sevenyears, when you let our bodies
rest for every seven days.
(47:11):
These people don't let the landrest and they wonder why the
fruits are not, are not?
Fruitful.
Now you got to spray everythingwith pesticides and all this,
all this GMO stuff.
Yeah.
Give it a rest.
You got to rest, Dang do it.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
They don't even let the animals rest at all.
Man, it's probably somewhereright now.
They probably beating a cow oran ox or something like that to
pile a yard or a field there'snot enough.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
They don't let the animals rest.
Even when it comes to cows,they're feeding the cows corn
instead of letting the cow eatthe grass, trying to get them as
fat as possible so they cansell it.
Even when it comes to, as yousaid, compost, that's good for
the soil so you can grow For amoment there.
(48:10):
When we had our chickens, whenthe chickens went around the
yard pooping around, my husbandwould scoop it up and put it in
a compost and all the vegetablesthat chopped up the ends of it
put it in a compost.
Over time it turns into dirtand you just added it to the
garden and it works fine.
But now they want you to go buyfertilizer and it works fine.
(48:34):
But now they want you to go buyfertilizer.
Yeah, oh, my goodness.
I'm not laughing because it'sfunny, I'm laughing because it's
actually ridiculous.
Like the circle is just crazy,but yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
You already know what , y'all already know what it go
back to.
So we not when, when this iswhat we go do for the rest of
the podcast, when, when we know,when y'all know what we're
talking about, we're just goingto say uh-uh, uh-uh.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's like I'm just going to be talking in circles.
I'm not trying to do that.
I mean everything really,really just is one thing.
And two greed.
Greed as well, but you knowthat's another conversation did
you see that?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
that, that that lady that had I forgot where she was
at, but she had a guard in herfront yard and her backyard and
the government state came andtold her to cut it down of
course, of course, pages, pages.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
They don't want us to live the way the Most High
wants us to live, because thecloser we are to the Most High,
they know that your enemy knowsthe liar, knows the lie.
They told right.
The enemy knows what we'resupposed to be doing, and when
they see us doing that, that'swhen they become fearful.
Because they know our power.
(49:52):
They fear us coming togetherand if, once we do that, it's
game over.
They know it's game over overthey're really just trying to
keep us away from one anotherright, let the people know where
they can do.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
You sell your products and stuff.
You sell products and stufflike that.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I do so.
I participate in a localfarmer's market.
I sell my herbs as teas, as youknow.
I have herb infused hair oil, Ihave body butters, I have some
bat teas, have some bath teas,or, yeah, bath teas.
(50:42):
Um, I make lemonade for hotdays at the farmer's market.
But um, I participated in thatand um, I have an Etsy shop with
those things as well.
When it comes to my teas, Ihave all types of teas for
different purposes men'swellness tea, women's tea,
pregnancy, postpartum, lung tea,you name it.
You name it, um, I've got it.
But um, I have an Etsy shopcalled um.
(51:03):
My brand is called a herbalcrown, so the, so the Etsy shop
is called at herbal crown, andum, I'm on Facebook as um, like
the letters Elsie, israel, andyou know, that's pretty much it,
hey.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
I can't say that if y'all don't listen to her stuff,
y'all be a hater, but if y'alldon't support, y'all some haters
for real.
Because I'm going to say thisthe sister is definitely doing a
lot of good, a lot of good inthe nation and she needs help
and support to spread themessage and the goodness that
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she's doing in the nation.
So if y'all not supporting,y'all not hitting that, like
y'all not hitting the cash app,y'all not hitting it, whatever
she got coming to, pulling up onher at the, at the, at the uh,
the farmer's market and andselling her out, you know I'm
saying if y'all not doing that,you'll hate her.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm just gonna say that I appreciate the love and
the recognition.
Oh yeah, definitely so.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
It's like I, like I said I've been, I've been
watching your, your profile fora while, like not on those notes
, no, not on no soccer shit,like y'all.
Y'all know I ain't on soccer, Iunderstand, but I'm just saying
, like those people be like manyou on some soccer shit, but no,
I'm not like I, I just I just Ifollow the people that I follow
(52:32):
and like the interest.
So you know I have my ownalgorithm.
Like you know, I like to liketo follow the people that I
follow and like the interest.
So you know I have my ownalgorithm.
Like you know, I like to followthe people that are doing the
same things that I'm doing oryou know, like, have the same
interest as me, like whateverybody would Like, you know.
But like I have a lot of peoplethat I have that do a lot of
herbalistic, uh, holisticmedicine and stuff like that.
(52:54):
But like you're one of thebiggest ones, like one of the
main ones, that I do follow andI do see, like you know, how you
can put everybody's post at thetop or certain people post at
the top, like yours is one ofthe ones that's like I see first
, like, turn on facebook, like,because it's always something
like and it's always somethingdifferent, like that sheet that
(53:14):
you talk about, that you bringto light like, you know, like,
like last time you was talkingabout we talked about the post.
When you talk about the phonestructure and like, so, like,
let's touch on that a little bitmore because I don't think,
like you gave people just alittle bit just to be intrigued.
I think you should do like ashow, like for real, like for
(53:35):
real.
I really do think you should doa show, and you know, like, and
just have, like other holisticdoctors on it.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
That is so funny.
You say that Because I can'ttell you how many people have
told me you need to be on theinternet.
You can start making money offof this thing and owe all you
have to save and I have a lot tosave but I try not to be
chronically online because forseveral reasons, but you're not
(54:05):
the first one to say that You'reactually not.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
See, this is the thing, and it don't even have to
be like.
It don't even have to be likeonline, online.
So you can just do like.
You can do, just like five, tenminute little segment on your
phone and just videotape andthen just upload it to YouTube.
How you do it?
(54:30):
You pay.
You know what I'm saying.
So it ain't like you're doinglives or anything Like you.
Just you know right and just dodifferent angles and boom, get
your point across.
Get your point across in five,ten minutes.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I'd be intrigued just offthe little 30 seconds.
You do Like, you know so.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
To be honest, I'm just really nervous Because the
internet is People.
People can be so mean on theinternet, and I also like my
privacy too.
I don't know they're racking tobe, honest.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
But the thing of it is, and it ain't even for me, it
ain't about the monetization ofthe money, it's more about the
message you know and pushing themessage, like and making sure
because and this is the way togo Like, I've been trying to
like, like, move away fromconventional medicine for years,
like, so I've been like, I'mnot like as as first as you are
(55:20):
in it, but I, um, I have a lotof herbs and I, you know, I
drink a lot of tea and I dotopicals and stuff like that Um,
I try to, you know, eat thebest, like, but I try to eat the
best.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
But the way my bank account is set, up, I saw that
the stuff is not cheap, andthat's another thing.
That's another thing when itcomes to this lifestyle is it's
not cheap.
It's not cheap to buy the rawingredients.
That's why they push theconvenience.
It's convenient to go get thisand that it's convenient to just
(55:58):
go buy bread.
That's never going to mold.
The bread is supposed to mold.
But if you make your own breadnow, you got to get the flour,
you got to get the sugar, yougot to get the yeast, you got to
get the, and it's like you knowwhat I don't.
Actually.
Let me just go get that breadRight.
So they make.
You got to get the and it'slike you know what I don't.
Actually.
Let me just go get that breadRight.
So they make the conveniencevery appealing.
(56:19):
But if you want to make ityourself, you got to put in time
, you got to put in the money,you got to put in the energy,
and a lot of people can't affordtime because you're working 40
hours a week.
You got to come home.
You got to pick the kids upfrom school.
You got to pick the kids upfrom school.
You got to do this, you got todo that.
When are you going to have to?
When are you going to haveanother four hours to make bread
?
Never.
So we're just stuck in thiscycle, the systematic cycle of
(56:42):
so-called convenience, but atthe expense of our health and
our wellbeing and our quality oflife.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Right, how does one?
I don't hate to sound like abroken record, but I mean, it
just seemed like you got theanswer.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I don't have the answer.
I like to say I'm a baby in thethings I'm really.
I'm really just in a phase oflearning and what I can improve
on as a mother.
I don't know everything.
Please don't give me thatcredit.
I really I have so much tolearn.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah, but see, this is the thing the most I
definitely gives wisdom to allyou know.
And wisdom is wisdom, is itdwells in you.
I can hear it Like so Iappreciate it.
Yeah, I appreciate it and.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
I'm definitely trying to like like talk a certain way
, Cause I usually be moreslurred and more Be comfortable.
Don't let me hold you back,Right?
Speaker 1 (57:43):
No, I just I just gotta meet you where you at.
You know what I'm saying,that's, you don't have to come
down to where I'll be at Like,cause I'll be like, I'll be,
I'll be like I'll be, I'll bewith the fucker sometimes.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
So this is your show.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I'm following you later?
Oh, no, no, no, we, we, we, we,chopping it up, building.
I'm enjoying it because this isvery insightful and very
informative.
Like you know, I definitelywant to know a lot of this.
So what would you think Wouldbe the best thing for, uh, like,
(58:18):
like your lymphatic system,like to to to drain, because
they, they say you can drain itand it'll help, like with
numbness, because that's what Ideal with now like, like, I feel
like numbness and certainthings tingling in certain parts
of my body, like my arms and mylegs and stuff like that.
And right now I'm in theprocess of.
I have a tea that I'm drinking.
(58:40):
It's a lymphatic system tea andit helps to cleanse it.
But you know, I just starteddrinking it.
But what could be the other?
What could be other things?
I know that I can do berriesand melons that could help, you
know, drain it.
But what could be somethingelse that I can?
Speaker 2 (58:59):
um hydration.
Don't forget the salt in thewater for the electrolytes.
You gotta move, you gotta walk,you gotta work out um
stretching.
I feel like a lot of us we getold, we get, we're getting older
and we don't stretch.
We gotta stretch um drybrushing as well.
(59:22):
Dry brushing right before youget in the shower, just scrub
your body.
That really gets your lymphaticgoing.
It really gets that drainage,that clogs in your system
loosened up.
Um, red clothes are really goodfor lymphatic.
Um, burdock root and dandelionis really good for your
(59:46):
lymphatic as well.
Also, like just taking a moment, releasing stress right and
deep breathing helps with yourlymphatic as well.
And going to your pressurepoints with, like your knuckles,
yeah, and just rubbing thatthat spot, just rubbing.
And throughout the day, justremember to.
(01:00:06):
You know, let your tongue down,relax your shoulders blink.
A lot of us are just so tensethroughout the day and we just
got to breathe out.
Take a moment.
At least that's my issue.
I get so tense throughout theday and I'm like I got to do
this.
I got to do this.
Slow down, take a minute,breathe, let your shoulders down
(01:00:29):
, release the tongue on top ofyour roof and just breathe out.
Even my four-year-old she tellsme I need a minute, I need to,
I need to breathe I'm like goahead girl you got to breathe in
four times, right.
So we have to just try to reduceour stress.
It's so easy to say, but wehave to reduce our stress and by
(01:00:52):
reminding us of the littlethings that we do on a daily
basis really will help withthose internal diseases.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah, that's insightful Cause I I definitely
heard a couple of them things,but some of them things you just
saying it was like, oh, okay,like I got bird, I love bird I
don't know I's since I've beendrinking tea.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
It's like man, like the earth the more earthier, the
better right and even, like Iknow, a lot of people are not
like tea drinkers.
A lot of people don't like tea.
One of my friends said it lookslike piss water.
You know, even if you don'tlike to drink tea, you can do
baths.
Put it in a tea bag and throwit in your If you like to take a
bath at least some grown mendon't but once in a while throw
(01:01:42):
it in your bath and just sit init.
Just sit in it.
That still will.
You still gain the benefits.
Or even a foot bath.
Just put it in a bucket and putyour foot in it, because your
feet is also an absorbent, soyou can just put it in a foot
bath and your body will absorbthose benefits.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
So some of the best ways to do it other than well,
I'm about to repeat what youjust said, but that makes sense
here.
Just sit in it and put yourfeet in it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be hard.
You don't have to necessarilydrink it orally, but there are
different ways around it fordifferent people.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So what's the best ways to drain mucus out of your
system?
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Mullein, as you mentioned earlier, mullein is
great for getting the mucus outof your system.
Mullein, as you mentionedearlier, mullein is great for
getting the mucus out of yoursystem.
Reducing your meat content,specifically like chicken
Chicken has the way they producechicken these days is just not
ethical.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
But anyways, yeah, reducing your meat intake and as
well as mullein herbs, andconstantly just drinking
inflammatory, anti-inflammatoryherbs, as well as antioxidant
herbs when it comes to mucus,right, right and keeping
hydrated, keeping hydrated sowhen mixing herbs because a lot
(01:03:20):
of people don't know how to mixthe herbs and put them in a bag
and like how much to do, becauseyou can, you can overdose and
people need to understand youcan overdose on herbs and but it
won't be like you overdose onsome crack or something like
that.
But you can definitely do toomuch and I have.
I got to admit, like I havefailed victims to, you know, and
(01:03:42):
burdock root was one of them,like because I just love the way
it tastes, but like you got toreally be careful about you know
what you, how you mix them in.
You know because it's potent,this stuff be potent and it can
really do something to you.
So how do you usually mix yourteas?
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
so there's a category of stimulant herbs and, um um,
stimulus herbs.
So one has one is the one thatboosts your energy and the one
essentially one that boosts yourenergy and one that's a down
that downs your energy, right.
So you want to be careful whenit comes to mixing those things
(01:04:24):
because you don't want twothings clashing, two herbs
clashing.
So it's so important, as yousaid it's, it's easy to make you
feel.
I I made a batch for rices veryearly in my journey and she
almost went to hospital.
I did not know what I was doing.
But you got to be careful whenit comes to mixing your herbs
and do your research on theherbs because, again, one herb
(01:04:47):
can do 10 things, 10 differentthings.
So, when it comes to mixingyour herbs, you have to have the
knowledge of what's a downerand what's an upper.
Essentially Right, just to putit in lamest terms.
Right, yeah, just do yourresearch and be like can this go
with this?
Can this go with that?
Can this go with this?
Be careful with that.
You can't mix yerba mate andsomething else.
(01:05:12):
You can't even think of anotherherb right now.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But you've got to do your research.
Ultimately.
Yeah, y'all definitely, and Ican attest to that.
Like I said, I fumbled.
Your boy will be a fumble.
But I got back on the horse andI could tell that that's what
it was from, because it was adifferent feeling than anything
that I you know, when you mixthe wrong herbs and you do too
(01:05:41):
much, yeah, that tells you likeit's a different feeling, big
different feeling.
What was you about to say,susan?
Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Even like prime example, when you do hibiscus.
Hibiscus is not the greatestfor men because when it comes to
men's reproductive system, itreally just shrinks up your
reproductive system.
So men should most likely stayaway from hibiscus away from
(01:06:13):
hibiscus.
Okay, A little note there.
It's a sweet herb but it's notnecessarily the best for men,
especially if you are in thatprime years of baby making and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Learn something new.
I got a bunch of hibiscus too.
I won't be drinking that.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I mean it's not terrible.
Forcus too, I won't be drinkingthat.
I mean it's not terrible foryou, but if you let's say like,
if you want children, if youwant children, maybe stay away
from them for the moment.
Temporarily.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
What would be good for, like, man's libido?
Like because I know it's a lotof brothers that have that issue
right now.
So what would you leave as athing for a man's libido?
Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Ashwagandha.
Ashwagandha is really good.
Ashwagandha is good for womentoo.
What else?
Makarut also good for women.
Let me see.
Karut.
Also good for women.
Let's see, did I mention yourroommate Green tea?
(01:07:21):
It's called gunpowder green tea, specifically.
That's really good for men aswell.
Let's see Ginkgo.
Ginkgo is really good for men.
It helps with the circulation.
All of these help withcirculation.
(01:07:43):
Um maca root helps withfertility and your libido, and
ashwagandha is great for yourmuscle strength and even sexual
health and even reduces stressas well.
So I highly recommendashwagandha, for sure, even for
women too.
Tribulus is really good fortestosterone production.
(01:08:05):
Yeah, just a few there.
Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Okay, well, sis, I definitely enjoy all the
information and I will sit heretaking notes, y'all, like,
please believe, because, like Isaid, I got a lot of these herbs
that she was talking about andI'm like, okay, I didn't know
that I could use that for thattoo, like.
So, all praise to the most highman.
(01:08:31):
We got brothers and sisters outhere that have the knowledge
and can share the wisdom andunderstanding with us.
Like, sis, you are definitelydoing a big thing in the nation
and definitely representing, youknow, your household and the
nation in a positive and arighteous manner.
All praise is to the most high.
(01:08:53):
We thank you and we appreciate,appreciate that your efforts.
So it's definitely like,because, you know, without
sisters and brothers like you,like we, we wouldn't know about
this stuff, you know.
I'm saying like because a lotof us is still, even though we,
in the truth, we stillamericanized, you know that's
true.
Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Great job, yeah, but it's all a journey.
I'm not perfect perfect.
I don't know it all, but I'mdefinitely willing to learn and
pass on the knowledge.
Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Right, and y'all definitely, like I said, man,
y'all support the sister.
She's doing a great service toall, service to all.
You know, like I said, I evenbought some herbs from her for
my wife and, uh, like, we still,we still, she still was using
them.
Like it was some good stuff,like, like, uh, like, oh, I
(01:09:44):
forgot what it was it was thepostpartum tea you got right
yeah, I think so.
Yeah, and yeah, she and my wife,my wife she's like she liked
the way it tasted, but shewasn't going through nothing
like that, but it just, uh, itwas just, you know, something
that I could definitely put onthe shelf.
I put it in my thing and, uh,my little, my little mason jar
(01:10:07):
like that, I got all my herbs inand it'll last for a while.
So, you know, once we haveanother child, and if she does
happen to go through that, thenI got it on deck right.
You know, I'm saying yeah yeah,I'm a hoarder when it comes to
herbs.
Y'all I ain't yeah, you and meboth, man, my god I'll be trying
to find the apocrypha, likeit's one over there in uh in uh,
(01:10:29):
mount healthy on uh, what isthat?
Um, mount Healthy, what is that?
Is that?
I forgot what the name of thestreet is.
It starts with a C, but it'sover there in Mount Healthy
y'all.
Most people probably know whatabout her.
She sells a little good butterand everything too.
Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I've never heard of it, unfortunately, yeah it's on
Compton.
Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yeah, it's on Compton Road, right there.
As soon as you go up Hamilton,make it's on Compton.
Yeah, it's on Compton Road,right there, as soon as you go
up Hamilton, make that right onCompton.
She sits right there on thecorner, nice place y'all Like
big up to the sister.
I forgot the name, but she is apocket fairy.
She definitely has, like, whatyou need.
But we ain't talking about her,we talking about the sister LC.
(01:11:15):
She definitely got what y'allneed.
Y'all go hit her up on her, uh,her websites, uh order
everything she got, causeeverything she got is going to
help you and heal you and makesure you do it y'all.
And, uh, I, we just definitelygot to make sure that the sister
has, you know, the proceeds tobe, continue to do the things
(01:11:35):
that she's doing for, you know,her family and for us, right?
So it's a double thing.
You know she does it for herfamily and for the nation.
So you know, and anybody thatwants to get it like you know,
come get it like, come get thetruth, come get the good
holistic teaching and the goodholistic medicine.
(01:11:57):
Like I said, I ordered somestuff from her.
It came quick and you know, Ieven had a little card and it
was just so nice and I'm like,oh okay, like the way she
packaged it and everything wasgood, like I still got the
package too, y'all, I ain'tgonna lie.
But at the end of the day,y'all, the sister is doing her
thing.
So I'm going to just let her goahead and tell y'all because
(01:12:19):
I'm sure she got a lot of people, a lot of fans, a lot of
followers and all the fans andfollowers that's listening to
the podcast big up to y'all.
Y'all keep on pushing in thename of the Most High, and let
the sister go ahead and telly'all what y'all want to hear,
or what she wants to tell y'allAll your plugs, all your links
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Just my Facebook, lc Israel, my Etsy shop, herbal
Crown, and honestly, that'sreally it.
That's really it.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah, definitely, oh yeah.
So it's an opportunity.
I've been trying to get you ona podcast and I definitely might
have to get you on another one,because I wanted to do a like a
segment called Every HerbYielding Seed.
You know that sounds so good ohyeah, definitely.
(01:13:14):
So we might have to.
You know, talk in thebackground about you know some
projects, some up and comingprojects and stuff like that.
Cause I'm definitely looking todo, you know, more of a
holistic side too.
Like you know, I do a lot oftruth music and stuff like that,
but I be wanting to be aholistic and have, like spoken
word and just a diverse type ofyou know interview interviewees.
(01:13:38):
So I definitely appreciate youcoming on, sis and uh, it's been
a beautiful build.
Definitely you got to get youback on here.
We both got some time and youknow I'm a I'm gonna have a
little bit more structured uhinterview so I can reel you a
little bit more and pick yourbrain.
But all praise to the most high.
We thank you, we appreciate youfor coming in.
(01:14:01):
This is your boy, abiy, on theStick to Truth Podcast and we
are hosted.
We are not on.
Let me get that straight.
We are hosted.
I just set up our music radiostation.
All praise to the most high.
Y'all get home safely, man,until next Wednesday at 12 pm
Eastern Time.
Y'all have a good week and agood weekend and a good Saturday
(01:14:24):
.
Peace, thank you, thank you,bye.
oh, praise to the most, how?
What's going on y'all, man, we,we sleep back, we back.
And you know, it's anotherwednesday and I'm feeling good,
y'all.
I'm feeling good about this onebecause this is something that
I take a personal interest in.
I really, really, really wantto pick the sister's brain and
we about to get into it, becausewe're going to spit that truth.
(00:29):
And you already know what thisis, you already know who this is
.
But for those that don't know,and just tuning in to me, and
you know, just fanning thepodcast, this is your boy, ovea,
and this is the Spit your TruthPodcast.
We are hosted by, not on, butby the Set Apart Music Radio
Station and, yeah, we got aspecial one today, y'all, like
(00:53):
they all special to me, but thisone definitely near and dear,
because I feel like your sisterhas a lot of jewels to tell us,
a lot of information, and we go,definitely, let her spit her
truth.
So, without further ado, I'mgonna introduce my sister, lc
the herbalist.
Hey, I'm telling you y'all, sheshe cold with it, and we about
(01:13):
to pick her mind too, becauseshe's a very well, well-learned
sister.
So, without further ado, goahead, sister, you know, let the
people know who you is and youknow what you do.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Let the people know who you is and what you do.
Praise, yeah.
Shalom everyone.
My name is Elsie Israel.
I'm a certified herbalist.
I've been doing this for abouta few years now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I'm a mother, a wife and yeah, I'm excited to get
into this interview.
Oh praise, oh praise.
So you said that you've beendoing the herb thing, the
herbalist.
You've been an herbalist forlike how many years, you said.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just a few years.
I recently got my certificationa year ago, but I've been
dealing with herbs for yeah justa few years, like about three.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Hey, she be on the internet, y y'all whipping up
the body butters.
I'm like, is there anythingyour sister can't do?
Like I'm saying like she justgot all types of you know
killing stuff for your body andtopicals and tin trees.
She did a juice the other day.
It was like I got a perfect.
I'm like I wish I could smellit.
(02:24):
I know it tastes good, but whatwas that tea that you, that
juice that you was making since?
Was it a tea or a juice?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I appreciate that and it's a.
It's actually a lemonade.
I like to classify myself as aexcuse me.
I like to classify myself as ahobbyist, I like to just.
I have this feeling that I justneed to learn how to do
everything the most priceless,but I feel always, and so I'm
(02:53):
just really trying to figure outhow to work with my hands in
all categories of life.
But specifically to answer yourquestion, it was a hibiscus
sour stop lemonade that I madeand, funny enough, I sell at the
farmer's market locally andit's the first thing that sells
(03:15):
out every Wednesday and I'm like, oh my goodness, like I gotta
now I gotta come up with morerecipes and flavors for the
people.
But yeah, I'm so glad I wasable to come across that and
perfect it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Alright, it looks and tastes good.
I'm like man, I wish I couldorder this stuff.
I want to, you know, order it.
I love the earth.
I love like pink trees comingfrom the earth.
You know what the most theearth, I love, like pink trees.
I love all this stuff likecoming from the earth.
(03:48):
And you know what the most.
I told him to do like.
So I'm all over it.
And when I see brothers,especially sisters, because the
sisters like y'all take a, y'allreally take a like, take to it
like more than us like, and andit's a reason why because the
most I like put that in y'all'sDNA to you know to be that type
of you know Mother Earth, like,you know in tune with the Earth
(04:11):
and everything that's going on.
So it's a beautiful thing.
So you said that, uh, so howlong have you been in the?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
tree Since for about five years now.
This year will make five years.
Yes, not too long.
I'm still a baby lifting, soI'm definitely in the phase of
finding my purpose as a womanspecifically.
So it's a journey.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's a lifelong journey, yeah and you, uh, and
you said this like five years,so how was it like making the
transition?
Like what was he?
Was he like a christian or arastafarian or what was like?
It was like I was a rastafarianbefore I came.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Really yeah, and it is that very similar to uh
hebrew?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
well, in some ways they have like the Cabanastric
that you see, and then they havethe Holy Pippi and it was like
a mix of Christianity andRastafarianism, you know, and it
was a little too much at times.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Do they recognize Yahweh?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh, yeah, okay, they know that they're the children
of Israel and all that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Okay, okay, they know that they're the children of
israel and all that good got you.
Okay, they just, you know, givepraise to harry selassie, and
I'm like, yeah, that's somethingI can't do, but you know, other
than that, like I'm like thereligion is, like, it's a clean
living, like well, that's great.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, specifically about my background, um,
background, I was born and grewup in Ghana and so, with Ghana
being colonized by the British,of course there's a lot of
Christianity there, and so webrought that here.
And when I got into my early20s I kind of steered away from
(06:01):
the church because I was workingspecifically on like Sundays
and stuff, and so I was justlike, yeah, this is, this, is
not it.
And then I met my now husbandand he's the one who ultimately
introduced me to this way oflife and, um, outside of him, it
(06:22):
was, for me, it was just veryit was the easiest transition,
simply because the answers I'vealways had in church were never
answered.
But with this way of life, withbeing finding out that I'm
hebrew, of the questions wereable to be answered and this way
of life is more realistic thansuperficial or make believe.
(06:43):
So it's more logical.
I should say, it matches withreal life.
You get what I'm saying.
Just a plain example you can'ttell me that a spirit got you
pregnant.
The most high says go into awoman and get her pregnant.
That's more real life.
You get what I'm saying.
To me, it was just the logic ofit all just made more sense,
(07:07):
yeah okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So in the early days, you know, this was like you
know, you was going to churchand and you said you kind of wow
, yeah, we about to talk aboutthat.
So how was it like that?
Growing up in Ghana?
Um, I moved here when I was 10.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
So it was definitely my early childhood, but it was.
It.
Was it like that.
Growing up in Ghana, I movedhere when I was 10.
So it was definitely my earlychildhood, but it was fine.
Like I mean, you don't knowwhat, you don't know, right, you
don't know when you areessentially sheltered to a small
surrounding or environment, youdon't see what the world has.
(07:43):
So for me, my childhood wasgreat.
It was a lot of fun, I had aregular childhood and then you
come here and the world is muchbigger and scary, but you know,
it was good.
I'd like to say that.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So how did they?
How did they depict Americans,Y'all, he was over there.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Everybody's rich.
Everybody's rich and living thegood life, what For sure?
And then, even till this veryday, my family thinks I'm big
balling.
I'm like, listen, people getmoney, but they pay their bills
with all their money.
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You get that money and it be gone that same day.
Sometimes, like I think that'swhat hurt the most, like when
you get paid, you work all yourweek, your two weeks and get it
in.
It'd be gone that same hour.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
We're all slaves to this capitalism.
Right Catholic world.
It's unfortunate, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Very.
But you know, at the end of theday, we know, hopefully, we, we
will be, you know, reprimandedfrom not reprimanded, but we
will be redeemed from thehardships that we go through.
All praise, oh yeah.
So when you came over here toGhana and you, what part did you
(09:01):
, what part of the United Statesdid you go to first, or did you
come straight to RIO?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
My father lived in Colorado, so he's the one who
brought my mom, myself and mybrother to Colorado.
So we lived in Colorado mywhole life.
And then when I met my husbandin Colorado, he, you know,
pandemic hit.
And he was like you know, ourpeople are here in Cincinnati
because we have a sanctuary here.
(09:29):
So he's like pandemic hit, wedon't have anybody here really
in Colorado.
Let's, you know, let's move toOhio, because our people are
there.
We don't know where this worldis going to.
You know where this world isgoing to go, so let's go be with
our people.
And I was very reluctant atfirst.
I was just like, yeah, I'venever I've traveled.
I've been away for like a weekor two for my family, but to
(09:53):
make that permanent move.
I was very hesitant for a fewmonths.
But with the way pandemic hit,we just really didn't know.
So I was like, okay, you know,if I'm supposed to trust my
husband, that's what I'm gonnado.
So here we are, five yearslater, we're still here.
How do you like it?
I don't like it I don't likeohio whatsoever, I don't know.
(10:18):
It's just it's so bland, it's soold, the roads are terrible.
It's just.
There's nothing fresh aboutOhio.
No offense to anybody who loves?
The city, but for me.
I just live here right, I getit.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, it is.
It can be.
You know, I've been living inhere all my life and it can be
like the same old stuff and theyreally trying to.
They ain't't like I don't thinkthat is regentifying, I think
that is like just building up.
Now, gentifying is when theytaking niggas out of battle or
black folks up out of spots, youknow, and moving them into a
(10:58):
different area, like away fromtheir jobs and their resources,
like it ain't regentifying ifyou giving Black folks a better
place to stay, like you give mea better place to stay than
Lincoln Heights, not LincolnHeights, but like lower homes
(11:18):
and you know, like Top Lock andall that, like, yeah, the West
End, give me a better place tostay.
Y'all might be kicking me out,but at least I'm trying to make
my way, I guess.
But you know, at the end of theday I think that, yeah, that's
crazy, it is really bland andstuff like that.
So when you came here it waslike, all right, we here, we
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locked in, and what class didyou go to?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
We go to the one on Kemper Lane.
Okay, I'm not sure if you'refamiliar with that.
Yeah, house of Israel, kemperLane.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, shout out to Shia and all them brothers over
there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What's his name?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
His son Natalia.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Natalia Obadiah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Obadiah and the brother Cypher.
All of them.
Yeah, I rocked with all of them.
Great teachers, absolutely Okay.
Okay.
So I thought you looked, I'mnot even going to lie.
Have you been there?
No, I don't, I don't, I'm noteven going to lie.
Have you been there?
no, I, I recognize your husbandfrom a Unity Shabbat oh yeah, I
(12:30):
recognize because I I've seenhim before like and I'm like,
hold on, like I thought Ithought y'all.
I'm like I thought they lived,but then I'm like I don't know I
was, I'm just beingscatterbrained sometimes it's
okay, I don't really like todisclose my location anyway oh
yeah, definitely, definitely, Iget it and we can be, we can
(12:51):
bleep it out, like you know ohno, don't worry about that.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm not when it comes to like the internet
specifically, I'm like I don'twant.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh yeah, you know people to know where I live.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So yeah, just for safety reasons.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I get it.
The internet can't be a crazyplace, man.
But just know that if you bringin some drama, like the
brothers in the house of IsraelKemper, they don't play.
They don't play about theirpeople for real.
I can't say that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Don't pray to God.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You down with their class and you go to their class,
they look out for you, likethey definitely look out.
There's some good brothers downthere.
I'm saying some good brotherslike you know all praises like
and it you know it.
It's a good thing that you know, because I remember when it was
down there, it was downtownlike, and it was like it was in
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the trenches like, and theystill was there like, like you
know, every Sunday, like givingout food and stuff like that and
feeding the poor, feeding thehomeless, and all that Like it
was a beautiful thing.
I remember they was doing afeed the poor circuit or
something like that, goingaround in different cities.
I don't know what happened toit, but I remember they was
(14:05):
doing it.
I'm like, yeah, that's what.
So that's more, more stuff thatwe need in the information you
know right, that's understood,yeah, yeah so what is the?
what was the?
What was the other thing youwanted to?
You know, do more work withyour hands and, you know, be
(14:26):
more proficient and efficient.
You know, as a mother and awife and a woman, what was the
inspiration behind?
You know, going to get thecertificate and you know, just
really studying up on a holisticmedicine and doubling down on
it being as knowledgeable as youare as you are now.
What was the inspiration?
And doubling down on it beingas knowledgeable as you are, as
you are now?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
what was the inspiration?
My children and my family?
I personally I never grew uplike in like medicine or like
the doctor, or going to ahospital and stuff like this.
So I was just, like you know,my husband started getting some
herbs and I was like, okay, likeyou know, let's expound on this
, let's make this bigger than us.
(15:08):
And so ultimately just tryingto stay away from um modern
medicine and knowing that, likeI said, the most high scripture
says he puts things on thisearth for us to consume and to
heal us.
And so, yeah, just listeningand gaining my knowledge in that
category to to do for my familyand other people, of course, if
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they're interested, but mainlyfor my family right and that
that's that's the bestmotivation for real.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
For real, other than the most high your family.
Definitely like just to seeyour family good and healthy,
like like I remember one time Iseen a post you was making.
Uh, it was like making my owntoothpaste or my own butter or
something.
I'm like what, like you know,like where can I bat it?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
say, I think what it even when it comes to like the
basics of um beauty regimen orhygiene.
I do make that myself becauseit doesn't have to be
complicated.
That's one thing I've learned.
It does not have to becomplicated and you can really
just do it yourself if, if youwant to right, it's easy to just
(16:21):
go to your store and be like,yeah, I just want to go get a
lotion, but then the lotion hasalcohol in it.
Why do you need to put alcoholon your body, on the largest
organ on your body?
You know so.
It's just a matter of howwilling, how willing you're.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You know how strong you're willing so you say
alcohol isn't good for your body?
Are you rubbing alcohol?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
no, like some lotions , have alcohol in it.
If you read the ingredients,yeah, it has alcohol in it.
So it's just that initialquestion of why is this
necessary?
I mean, it can be forpreservatives, because it does
have to stay on the shelf for awhile, but it still backs up the
reason of why.
Right, but to me that doesn't.
Um, yeah, if you can't.
(17:07):
Yeah, the bottom line is, ifyou can't eat it, you probably
shouldn't put it in your body oron your body.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Hmm, yeah, I've heard that a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah.
So, when they tell youtoothpaste, you shouldn't
swallow toothpaste Like what.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So yeah, I always wondered like, why do they say
that Like?
But when you brush your teethyou end up swallowing some
toothpaste.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
A little bit of something right.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like is it that bad for you?
I know it had the fluoride init, but you know, is it that bad
for you?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean it's not gonna kill you on the spot, but I
mean over time it is gonna makesome damage.
So then it's, it's a dominoeffect of okay, now you got to
go to the dentist, now you gotto pay a thousand dollars for
this, you got to keep going tothe dentist.
So it's just the cycle ofputting money in these people's
pockets.
Right role of putting money inthese people's pockets.
You don't go to the doctor toget healed because they need
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sick patients to live their life, to afford life themselves.
It's just really a big cycle.
Once you just step out of thatcorrupted mindset, it's a little
freeing.
I would say it's a littlefreeing.
But you know, not thoughteverybody was so cute.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I bet your kitchen's so good, because, hey, for real,
y'all check this out.
Like I, I dated this sisterright and uh, she wasn't in the
tree, but her mother was like aholistic right and uh, every
time we went over her house andwe went in her kitchen Cause she
had all of her herbs and hershelves and stuff like that and
(18:51):
I mean it just Smoked the timeand the lady was so cold With it
like she could look at you andtell what was wrong, like you
know what I'm saying.
She like killed herself, like,uh, like a form of cancer and
stuff Like that.
I remember that she was wrong.
You know what I'm saying.
She killed herself like a formof cancer and stuff like that.
I remember that she was tellingme that I'm like that's
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
That's the end goal To just be able to identify
things by just looking atsomebody.
That's a beautiful thing to beable to do.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think that you definitely got to be in line
with your spirit and, you know,like all your chakras in line
and all that good stuff.
Because to be able to feelsomebody's energy and just look
at them like, yeah, bro, youneed this, this, that Like
that's like you know old schoolpriest type stuff.
Like like you know old schoolpriest type stuff, like you know
levite type stuff, you know thelevites, you know I'm saying
(19:55):
yeah, that's crazy, that'sbeautiful yeah, I'm like I.
well, you know, you already knowhow y'all everybody that that
practices holistic medicine andand and stays in a while you end
up being like.
I know another sister that waslike she.
She had cured herself from.
(20:16):
It was another different formof cancer, but it had come to me
once we start talking.
But uh, yeah, she's 80 yearsold, a different form of cancer,
but it'll come to me once westart talking.
But yeah, she's 80 years old.
She's 80 years old, she livesin Alabama.
Well, no, she lives in Savannah.
And this sister, like she sellsherbs and stuff like that.
(20:39):
She makes a lot of good money,like, but I mean she's like one
of those one type sisters thatlike really own it, like be
outside grounded and everything,like you said, like yeah, it's
really all part of the lifestyleyeah yeah, so do you?
do you do you?
(20:59):
Because we I've seen, we and weall have seen like, uh, like
exercise videos and stuff likethat, and congratulations on the
weight loss and all thatDefinitely, definitely, it's
always a good thing when youknow when brothers and sisters
get healthier Like you know whatI'm saying, it's definitely a
good thing.
I need to get healthier myselfand that's what I'm in the
(21:19):
process of.
But we go talk to that, liketalk about that, because I feel
like you can give me a diagnosis, you know we go get to that.
But I uh, I've seen that, youknow that you have you've done
some stuff like that and you'vebeen outside grounded and you
have made videos where youtalked about, you know, certain
(21:40):
things that we should do.
Like you, you know just beingoutside of nature and stuff like
this.
So where, where do you what?
What do you?
Do you ground yourself, like,and when you sleep, like because
I know a lot of people and Ithought about doing it too like
getting some copper and justrunning the land and, like you
know, just grounding myselfwhile I was asleep do you think
that would be a good a thing fora good thing for a person to do
(22:03):
?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
absolutely.
I have all, both my children,myself, my husband, we all have
copper bracelets that we wear 24, 7 um.
First thing, if the sun is niceoutside in the morning, you
know step outside with your barefoot on the grass.
I let my children play in thedirt, you know.
Just really be out in thenature.
I think it's all good for yourinternal.
(22:27):
It's not visibly, it's notvisible but, it's all good for
you and a lot of people.
We live in this microwavesociety where we need to see.
We need to see the effectsright now, in this very moment.
But, um, it's all good for you,right?
It?
It's not bad for you,especially melanated people.
We're very deficient in vitaminD, and so we need that.
(22:50):
That's how I make the sun forus, right.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Right, it did make it .
For us, and you know a lot ofpeople.
It does feel good when you justgo outside sometimes and just
stick your feet in the grass.
Remember when we was youngerthey used to tell us don't stick
your feet in the grass, you goget a tapeworm or you go get
this.
It was always the fear.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It was all based in fear.
It surely is We've beenindoctrinated so badly, so crazy
to me.
I just sit back and I'm likewhy would they do that?
Why would they do?
That, why would?
They do that, why would?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
they do that.
But you know, happens, happensto us, and I really think, like
you know, like, because I assess, like nature and things outside
, like man don't be outside anddon't you know?
We used to go outside and be innature when we was younger, but
now it's like man don't beoutside and don't you know?
We used to go outside and be innature when we was younger, but
now it's like man.
It was so rooted in, you know,fear, like the tapeworm, and you
(23:52):
know, if you go out in naturehiking, what if you get lost?
Or what if this?
I mean people.
I'm like man.
How can you get lost if you canjust look at the sun and tell
where you at?
Like, you know that ain't hard,like, but, like you said, it
was rooted in fear and I thinkthat now A lot of people don't
(24:13):
do it, a lot of people are doingit and a lot of people are
getting a lot, a lot healthierand living healthier lives
because they see, you know, thejunk that we are eating and they
giving us in this country, like, and it ain't just America
because, like, I see othervideos, like in India, where
they be just like, totallyunsanitary with their food.
(24:35):
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I've seen those videos too.
It's so crazy, oh my goodness.
And I'm like.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I'm like man, why would they even serve that stuff
if people sit there, like youin the line, like you waited in
a line?
You get to the front of theline, you see this dude handling
your stuff, like with his handsand his hands dirty, and you
like, nah, I'm good, bro, right,but you done already paid your
money, though, like I'm alreadyhere, I'm already hungry, it's
(25:05):
true right, like what you gonnado I'm not gonna die man, I
gonna take this to take themicroorganisms right, yeah but
that kind of dirt ain't right,but yeah, that's crazy.
So would be the.
What would be it for somebodythat was going through like had
(25:26):
chronic migraines chronicmigraines what would you, what
would be the diagnosis for that,what would you think that, what
would you tell them to take andwhat would you tell them that
was the problem.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Would be to soak your feet in cold water for 20
minutes.
Hmm, to soak your feet in coldwater for 20 minutes.
If you can add maybe somewhat's it called Celtic salt or
pink salt, himalayan salt?
Yeah, that would be my firststrategy when it comes to
(26:06):
chronic pain, chronic migraines,as you said right but also
intake.
Water intake is important andwhen it comes to water intake,
because the quality of waterhere is so low, I always put
either self-exalt or himalayansalt in my water to bring back
(26:27):
the electrolytes in the water,okay, yeah, magnesium is also
really good for calming yournerves and the blood vessels,
because when you have migraines,it's just a lot of blood
rushing to your head.
So magnesium helps a lot aswell, which also calms your
nervous system, also helps yousleep a lot.
I mean sleep well at night,yeah, so that was that would be
(26:48):
what I would recommend.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
OK, yeah, recommend, okay yeah, and and do you think
that it would be?
So?
What would be the underliningissue behind like chronic,
because I know it could bedifferent things, like blood
pressure or like the lymphaticsystem or you know, just
different things.
What would you be?
What would you think would bethe the primary one, that like
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the most common for everybodythat has, I think?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
stress Stress would be the underlining thing for
people and inflammation.
A lot of things go back to ourfood, especially here in America
.
A lot of things go back to yourfood.
If we can just eliminate thingsthat inflame us internally, we
could cure a lot of issueswithin ourselves.
So, stress and food, right.
(27:38):
I feel like if somebody getslike a major diagnosis, such as
like cancer or anything, you gotto eliminate half the things
you eat and really go bare andraw when it comes to your foods,
and you'll find it, you know,because a lot of things inside
of us we feed.
(27:59):
We feed the bad things insideof us when it comes to our diet,
right, sugars, the oils, youname it.
So if we could just eliminatethose things, half of our
problems we've done.
It's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard.
I won't, I have to acknowledgethat it's really hard, but it's
doable, right?
(28:19):
I always ask myself how bad doyou want it?
Which is a motivator to achievewhat I want to do?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So where, where, where would one start, like what
would be the process of likecleaning your system, and then
you know like being healthier,and then you know like being
healthier and then you knowexercising.
So where would be the beginning?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh, my goodness, that is such a vague question.
Where do you not start?
Because now, immediately, Ijust thought about your
deodorant.
You got to detox your body,right?
You got to detox your body,right, you got to detox your
body.
You have to think about, frommorning to evening, what are you
consuming when it comes to yourtoothbrush, your deodorant,
(29:02):
your lotion, your hair oils,right?
The food, the drinks you'redrinking, the quality of water
you're drinking, and so all ofthese, um, all of these things
play a part in, in yourlifestyle.
It's really about yourlifestyle.
So, when it comes to where doesa person start?
(29:23):
Obviously, it's the food.
It's easy to say food, but, um,a lot of us eat too much food,
too much bad food as well, right?
So I don't know where to start.
It's the food, that's all I cansay, right?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So would you do a detox.
So how long would you do adetox for?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
The thing about detoxing is reality of the
matter is your liver.
Is your detox?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Your liver detoxes anyway, so I don't even like get
into too deep into detoxes, orlike detox teas or detox this.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Your liver does that for you.
So now it just comes down tobeing conscious about what you
put inside of your body, right?
So then, first thing in themorning, do you have to have a
full breakfast?
No, you can grab a handful ofberries and call it a day and
drink some water.
Right, or you could wait, oryou get into my vest, you know,
or you could wait till lunchtime.
You don't have to eat.
I don't know.
We've, we've been, we've beencalling.
(30:32):
Our mind has been colonizedgreatly.
The thing that we have to eatthree times a day?
We don't have to do that, it'snot necessary, right?
They're just trying to get youto spend money to put in their
pockets.
But, um, yeah, so you don'thave to eat three times a day.
Wait till you're actuallyreally hungry, till you eat.
And when you do eat, you know,eat healthy things, eat your
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greens, I mean carbs.
That's good for you too.
Don't be scared away from, ofcourse, protein, right, and of
course, keep it clean, as themost I say.
But um, it doesn't have to becomplicated.
The beautiful thing about thislifestyle is it's very simple,
(31:15):
and so, for some reason, we'vebeen taught that simple is bad.
Simple is basic.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But it's really not.
But do you have like a mealprep that you do?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
on weeks a week.
Myself I don't.
When I was like three babies, Iwas a a workout person and I am
still, but I was a no prepperson and stuff.
But no, I don't, because I liketo.
I like to try different things.
I like to try different thingsevery day, but every day it's a
little different when it comesto cooking and whatnot, but I
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always keep it very basic.
We got, you got your meat forfish and you've got your carbs,
and then you've got yourvegetables.
So it's always very simple,especially when it comes to like
even a piece of unleavenedbread.
It's nothing changes, nothingat all.
Same old, same old, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Throughout the week?
Do you can too?
Do you do cans and preservesand stuff like that too?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That is my next goal, that is, my next achievement is
to start canning.
I'm currently gardening rightnow and I plan to do that with
my tomatoes.
I can preserve it through thenext year, so I look forward to
doing that and learning back.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
What kind of tomatoes are you growing?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Just the basic tomatoes.
I mean, I don't remember the,it's just a regular tomato.
I don't remember the terms forit, but yeah, I'm excited to
start canning tomatoes.
I wish there's so manyvegetables over the years
because I'm like I could havedone this, I could have done
that, but you know, it's ajourney, it's all a journey, you
live and you learn, it happenswhen it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
you know yeah.
You learn everything you'resupposed to learn and it happens
when it's supposed to happen.
So what else do you?
What else is growing in yourgarden?
Is this tomato?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I've got tomatoes um jalapenos.
I got some spinach um swisschard, some kale um my husband
wants to do watermelon, but Idon't know.
I think that takes a lot ofreal estate.
I don't want to do that.
Also, cucumber I've donecucumbers over the years and it
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just really does take over.
But what else I can't eventhink right now.
Different species of kalewhat's the other thing I think
right now?
Kale is a good blood thing yes,I choose kale over lettuce any
(33:58):
day.
Absolutely love kale.
I think that's it for now.
I feel like I have someseedlings starting up and a few
peppers.
Some peppers yeah, different,different types of peppers as
well yeah, those jalapenos, alltree.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I had grew one and the tree it got.
So it got so thick and hardy ithad actually like grew like a
little bit of tree, it was likewood and everything.
Really, yeah, that thing waslike producing jalapenos very
two days I love that jalapenosare easy, peppers are very easy,
(34:49):
bro, because they only takelike 20 days.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, oh but same with cucumbers.
You get a lot of cucumbers,yeah, but you got to.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You, got to have space, man.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You got to have some space and it does take a lot of
water to you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Same with tomatoes it requires a lot of water and a
lot of picking them right whenthey're supposed to See.
A lot of people think thatthey're supposed to pick right
when they supposed to see.
A lot of people absolutelysupposed to pick them when they
read.
Now you pick them things whenthey green because if you pick
them while they read and theremight be an insect inside of
that you're right you areabsolutely right, yeah, so you
gotta pull that out I have tomake.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I made so many um jars of pickles last year and I
just started giving them awaybecause I couldn't, my family
could not consume them fastenough.
But you know again.
You live and you learn.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's what's up.
Man, I mean, hey, I wish I hada garden when I had one, you can
.
Yeah, I ain't got the space.
If I had the space, I would Ourprevious home we our previous,
our previous home.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
We did our previous home say what now?
My apologies, um, but ourprevious house.
We had the land and we have thespace.
However, we moved and we don'thave the land anymore.
(36:17):
Like so we decided to um pivotinto doing buckets right
different sizes and as well asdoing the tent which will have,
like the grow light in there.
So it's doable.
I will say that regardless ofland size, it's very doable.
Right comes down to how bad youwant it yeah, how bad you want
(36:40):
it.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Right, I had a, uh, I had an avocado plant.
It grew for like about a yearand a half, because you know,
avocados they take a littlewhile to grow, yeah, a couple
seasons.
You don't just get an avocado,you gotta germinate that thing
and then it, once it's sprout,then you put it in the ground
and then you gotta let it grow,grow, grow, grow, grow.
(37:01):
It take a while.
Today, something likepineapples, you know, uh it,
yeah, I wish I it takes aboutfive years to have an avocado
and a tree.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's another thing.
I can't wait to purchase landand really have that, really
live that lifestyle of being offthe grid.
You know what I mean?
I love to have fruit trees inthe backyard.
I love that.
That's definitely a goal ofmine, or a goal of ours, I
(37:38):
should say definitely and haveall them chickens yes, and we
had chickens one time and ourneighbors called the health
department on us and we had toget rid of them.
But that was short lived goodtimes.
That was good goodness.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Man, they was just mad because they didn't think of
the plan first.
Sometimes that's all it be.
For real, people just be hatingbecause they just mad, because
they didn't think of it first.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, even in that house we lived in we grew so
much vegetables we gaveeverybody, we gave all our
neighbors like vegetables thatwe couldn't consume.
But that lady who called thehealth department, like look,
everybody got some freshvegetables, but you, oh, because
you wanted to be a snitch.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Right, that's what happened, man, all right.
Hey, it is what it is, thoughyou know hey is what it is,
though you know so if, if,what's the best, the best
holistic thing for likearthritis, if somebody had real
bad arthritis, how could theylike counter reverse it?
(38:49):
Because I know, like holisticmedicine, it reverses a lot for
real.
For real, like it's amazing.
So what would you prescribe?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
When it comes to arthritis, any herd that will
reduce inflammation.
I think arthritis is just yourjoints that are inflamed.
So, yeah, I think arthritis isjust your joints that are
(39:22):
inflamed.
So I have a book that is Ithink it's called Herb Remedies
or Remedies of Herbs, butultimately, the bottom line for
that is just reducing yourinflammatory.
Turmeric is a greatanti-inflammatory as well.
Ginger, peppermint.
(39:42):
Back to magnesium.
Lavender is also great foranti-inflammatory.
So, yeah, just any herbs.
And a lot of the beautifulthing about herbs is one herb
can cure 10 things, right, so?
And a lot of them areantioxidants and
anti-inflammatory a basic one Ithink I would go for.
(40:04):
It would be like nettle leaf.
Nettle leaf has all theproteins and all the vitamins as
well as anti-inflammatory, butum, yeah, nettle and turmeric is
probably should be a go-to whenit comes to, you know, a little
hot cup of tea I love.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I love the way that nettle leaves taste.
I usually use it with uh like,uh woolen and some powder work
uh, woolen and some paddle work.
And yeah, just a little bit ofI probably sometimes I put a
clove in it and I love that.
It is.
Oh they so good, I got to getso good.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I feel like a lot of people underestimate clothes and
the benefits of clothes.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Oh, it helps with my diet and it helps with like for
the brothers that got stinkybreath and the sisters that got
stinky breath.
It helps with your stinkybreath too.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
No, absolutely.
It's antimicrobial.
It helps with digestion.
Also, antioxidants andanti-inflammatory.
Helps with your blood sugar andum loses your immune system and
your brain protection.
That's a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
That's a lot and you know what man the crazy part
like.
We always was told like, yeah,man, you gotta cut them weeds
and go outside and cut the grassand cut this down, cut that
down, we don't need that, thatain't bad, that ain't good.
Well, it ain't good.
But now we're growing up andit's like man, all the stuff
(41:43):
that we see in these books, thatwe deal with, it was outside
all along.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
No, truly, I can't think of the little yellow
flower that grows as weed inyour yard.
I can't think of the name rightnow, but those are so good as
teas.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
The dandelions or your health?
But then you know, imagine ifpeople with yards just grew and
(42:15):
traded what they grew, but theyfor you to cut your grass.
If you have a hoa, you got tocut your grass.
It has to look manicured.
For what?
right just land that's not beingused.
It's so crazy to me, even whenit comes to like trees.
(42:35):
The only reason a lot of peoplehave allergies is because the
only trees around are male treesand they cut down all the
female trees because the femaletrees will produce this fruit
and they didn't want us pickingfruit off the trees, because
they wanted us to buy it.
Going back to consumers orcapitalists, and it's like this
(42:56):
thing is so deep, they try toreally get us far, far, far away
from the way we're supposed tobe living, according to the Most
High and they really thoughtthis through, and we just eat it
up, eat it up and get itfurther, further away from the
way we're supposed to be living.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's like, wow, I did , like I kind of learned
something and I kind of like gotsome insight.
That's what you just said.
You said all the trees thatthey got is pill trees.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
And that's what creates the pollen and that's
why people get so allergies.
You notice, I don't know,especially in america, you don't
see fruit trees, right?
You rarely see fruit trees.
They purposely cut them downbecause they don't want people
eating for free.
Man, right, right, like howevil do you have to be to not
(43:57):
want somebody to eat for free?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Man, I had a sister that lives in.
Well, I know a sister thatlives in St Lucia named CJ.
She would tell me and sometimeslike because she would do music
with us and stuff like that,but sometimes she would like do
videos with me and she wouldshow like how she'd just walk
(44:23):
outside of her house and justpick off a papaya like, and it'd
just be like that's how itshould be, yeah papayas and
mangoes, I'm like all that onthe ground.
She said, yeah, people just comepast and eat it.
I eat the stuff that's off thetree, but they eat the stuff
that's on the ground.
I said, either way, you win it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That's how it should be.
Even the scripture talks aboutdon't clip everything off your
vineyards because it'sessentially for the poor.
That's how it should be.
They want us to buy everythingand work hard to buy those
things.
Capitalism Everything comesdown to capitalism.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
It's always going to go back to that, because the
thing of it is is that we neverlived like that.
We always used a broader system.
Our ancestors, they didn't liveoff the land or on the land.
They lived with the land, youknow.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Right, they lived with the land.
That's beautiful.
They lived with the land.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Because they knew how to use the land, just like how
the land used us.
Remember, think about this.
And this was something deep,like when I, when I, when a
brother brought this to me and Ihad to really research and
think about it like and prayedon it too, like.
So remember when the most hightold us like, hey, when y'all
and y'all land, or when y'allyou know wherever y'all had like
(45:57):
, when y'all doing what y'alldoing at the uh and y'all in the
wilderness, we in the tents,boom, he said, when y'all use
the bathroom, go outside.
And you know, outside the, the,the camp and use the bathroom.
Now think about this.
At times we was there, it wasthere posted for months I'm know
what I'm saying For months.
So just think about all thefertilizer.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Imagine that, including the cattle and the
animals we had with us.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Right so the land is just like Earth, is just like a
big old computer, right so whenyou input information, you get
back certain things from theearth.
Right so when we was putting inour information, our DNA, our
(46:42):
poop, it was growing what weneeded to heal us and keep us
sustained us.
That man, mother earth is crazy, like it ain't?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
crazy.
It's beautiful, it's justbeautiful for me yeah, but it it
definitely uh, when I, when I,when I, when a brother brought
that to me, I'm like yeah, themulti tells us to let the land
rest for seven, every sevenyears, when you let our bodies
rest for every seven days.
(47:11):
These people don't let the landrest and they wonder why the
fruits are not, are not?
Fruitful.
Now you got to spray everythingwith pesticides and all this,
all this GMO stuff.
Yeah.
Give it a rest.
You got to rest, Dang do it.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
They don't even let the animals rest at all.
Man, it's probably somewhereright now.
They probably beating a cow oran ox or something like that to
pile a yard or a field there'snot enough.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
They don't let the animals rest.
Even when it comes to cows,they're feeding the cows corn
instead of letting the cow eatthe grass, trying to get them as
fat as possible so they cansell it.
Even when it comes to, as yousaid, compost, that's good for
the soil so you can grow For amoment there.
(48:10):
When we had our chickens, whenthe chickens went around the
yard pooping around, my husbandwould scoop it up and put it in
a compost and all the vegetablesthat chopped up the ends of it
put it in a compost.
Over time it turns into dirtand you just added it to the
garden and it works fine.
But now they want you to go buyfertilizer and it works fine.
(48:34):
But now they want you to go buyfertilizer.
Yeah, oh, my goodness.
I'm not laughing because it'sfunny, I'm laughing because it's
actually ridiculous.
Like the circle is just crazy,but yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
You already know what , y'all already know what it go
back to.
So we not when, when this iswhat we go do for the rest of
the podcast, when, when we know,when y'all know what we're
talking about, we're just goingto say uh-uh, uh-uh.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's like I'm just going to be talking in circles.
I'm not trying to do that.
I mean everything really,really just is one thing.
And two greed.
Greed as well, but you knowthat's another conversation did
you see that?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
that, that that lady that had I forgot where she was
at, but she had a guard in herfront yard and her backyard and
the government state came andtold her to cut it down of
course, of course, pages, pages.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
They don't want us to live the way the Most High
wants us to live, because thecloser we are to the Most High,
they know that your enemy knowsthe liar, knows the lie.
They told right.
The enemy knows what we'resupposed to be doing, and when
they see us doing that, that'swhen they become fearful.
Because they know our power.
(49:52):
They fear us coming togetherand if, once we do that, it's
game over.
They know it's game over overthey're really just trying to
keep us away from one anotherright, let the people know where
they can do.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
You sell your products and stuff.
You sell products and stufflike that.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I do so.
I participate in a localfarmer's market.
I sell my herbs as teas, as youknow.
I have herb infused hair oil, Ihave body butters, I have some
bat teas, have some bath teas,or, yeah, bath teas.
(50:42):
Um, I make lemonade for hotdays at the farmer's market.
But um, I participated in thatand um, I have an Etsy shop with
those things as well.
When it comes to my teas, Ihave all types of teas for
different purposes men'swellness tea, women's tea,
pregnancy, postpartum, lung tea,you name it.
You name it, um, I've got it.
But um, I have an Etsy shopcalled um.
(51:03):
My brand is called a herbalcrown, so the, so the Etsy shop
is called at herbal crown, andum, I'm on Facebook as um, like
the letters Elsie, israel, andyou know, that's pretty much it,
hey.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
I can't say that if y'all don't listen to her stuff,
y'all be a hater, but if y'alldon't support, y'all some haters
for real.
Because I'm going to say thisthe sister is definitely doing a
lot of good, a lot of good inthe nation and she needs help
and support to spread themessage and the goodness that
(51:43):
she's doing in the nation.
So if y'all not supporting,y'all not hitting that, like
y'all not hitting the cash app,y'all not hitting it, whatever
she got coming to, pulling up onher at the, at the, at the uh,
the farmer's market and andselling her out, you know I'm
saying if y'all not doing that,you'll hate her.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
I'm just gonna say that I appreciate the love and
the recognition.
Oh yeah, definitely so.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
It's like I, like I said I've been, I've been
watching your, your profile fora while, like not on those notes
, no, not on no soccer shit,like y'all.
Y'all know I ain't on soccer, Iunderstand, but I'm just saying
, like those people be like manyou on some soccer shit, but no,
I'm not like I, I just I just Ifollow the people that I follow
(52:32):
and like the interest.
So you know I have my ownalgorithm.
Like you know, I like to liketo follow the people that I
follow and like the interest.
So you know I have my ownalgorithm.
Like you know, I like to followthe people that are doing the
same things that I'm doing oryou know, like, have the same
interest as me, like whateverybody would Like, you know.
But like I have a lot of peoplethat I have that do a lot of
herbalistic, uh, holisticmedicine and stuff like that.
(52:54):
But like you're one of thebiggest ones, like one of the
main ones, that I do follow andI do see, like you know, how you
can put everybody's post at thetop or certain people post at
the top, like yours is one ofthe ones that's like I see first
, like, turn on facebook, like,because it's always something
like and it's always somethingdifferent, like that sheet that
(53:14):
you talk about, that you bringto light like, you know, like,
like last time you was talkingabout we talked about the post.
When you talk about the phonestructure and like, so, like,
let's touch on that a little bitmore because I don't think,
like you gave people just alittle bit just to be intrigued.
I think you should do like ashow, like for real, like for
(53:35):
real.
I really do think you should doa show, and you know, like, and
just have, like other holisticdoctors on it.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
That is so funny.
You say that Because I can'ttell you how many people have
told me you need to be on theinternet.
You can start making money offof this thing and owe all you
have to save and I have a lot tosave but I try not to be
chronically online because forseveral reasons, but you're not
(54:05):
the first one to say that You'reactually not.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
See, this is the thing, and it don't even have to
be like.
It don't even have to be likeonline, online.
So you can just do like.
You can do, just like five, tenminute little segment on your
phone and just videotape andthen just upload it to YouTube.
How you do it?
(54:30):
You pay.
You know what I'm saying.
So it ain't like you're doinglives or anything Like you.
Just you know right and just dodifferent angles and boom, get
your point across.
Get your point across in five,ten minutes.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I'd be intrigued just offthe little 30 seconds.
You do Like, you know so.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
To be honest, I'm just really nervous Because the
internet is People.
People can be so mean on theinternet, and I also like my
privacy too.
I don't know they're racking tobe, honest.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
But the thing of it is, and it ain't even for me, it
ain't about the monetization ofthe money, it's more about the
message you know and pushing themessage, like and making sure
because and this is the way togo Like, I've been trying to
like, like, move away fromconventional medicine for years,
like, so I've been like, I'mnot like as as first as you are
(55:20):
in it, but I, um, I have a lotof herbs and I, you know, I
drink a lot of tea and I dotopicals and stuff like that Um,
I try to, you know, eat thebest, like, but I try to eat the
best.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
But the way my bank account is set, up, I saw that
the stuff is not cheap, andthat's another thing.
That's another thing when itcomes to this lifestyle is it's
not cheap.
It's not cheap to buy the rawingredients.
That's why they push theconvenience.
It's convenient to go get thisand that it's convenient to just
(55:58):
go buy bread.
That's never going to mold.
The bread is supposed to mold.
But if you make your own breadnow, you got to get the flour,
you got to get the sugar, yougot to get the yeast, you got to
get the, and it's like you knowwhat I don't.
Actually.
Let me just go get that breadRight.
So they make.
You got to get the and it'slike you know what I don't.
Actually.
Let me just go get that breadRight.
So they make the conveniencevery appealing.
(56:19):
But if you want to make ityourself, you got to put in time
, you got to put in the money,you got to put in the energy,
and a lot of people can't affordtime because you're working 40
hours a week.
You got to come home.
You got to pick the kids upfrom school.
You got to pick the kids upfrom school.
You got to do this, you got todo that.
When are you going to have to?
When are you going to haveanother four hours to make bread
?
Never.
So we're just stuck in thiscycle, the systematic cycle of
(56:42):
so-called convenience, but atthe expense of our health and
our wellbeing and our quality oflife.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Right, how does one?
I don't hate to sound like abroken record, but I mean, it
just seemed like you got theanswer.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
I don't have the answer.
I like to say I'm a baby in thethings I'm really.
I'm really just in a phase oflearning and what I can improve
on as a mother.
I don't know everything.
Please don't give me thatcredit.
I really I have so much tolearn.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah, but see, this is the thing the most I
definitely gives wisdom to allyou know.
And wisdom is wisdom, is itdwells in you.
I can hear it Like so Iappreciate it.
Yeah, I appreciate it and.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
I'm definitely trying to like like talk a certain way
, Cause I usually be moreslurred and more Be comfortable.
Don't let me hold you back,Right?
Speaker 1 (57:43):
No, I just I just gotta meet you where you at.
You know what I'm saying,that's, you don't have to come
down to where I'll be at Like,cause I'll be like, I'll be,
I'll be like I'll be, I'll bewith the fucker sometimes.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
So this is your show.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I'm following you later?
Oh, no, no, no, we, we, we, we,chopping it up, building.
I'm enjoying it because this isvery insightful and very
informative.
Like you know, I definitelywant to know a lot of this.
So what would you think Wouldbe the best thing for, uh, like,
(58:18):
like your lymphatic system,like to to to drain, because
they, they say you can drain itand it'll help, like with
numbness, because that's what Ideal with now like, like, I feel
like numbness and certainthings tingling in certain parts
of my body, like my arms and mylegs and stuff like that.
And right now I'm in theprocess of.
I have a tea that I'm drinking.
(58:40):
It's a lymphatic system tea andit helps to cleanse it.
But you know, I just starteddrinking it.
But what could be the other?
What could be other things?
I know that I can do berriesand melons that could help, you
know, drain it.
But what could be somethingelse that I can?
Speaker 2 (58:59):
um hydration.
Don't forget the salt in thewater for the electrolytes.
You gotta move, you gotta walk,you gotta work out um
stretching.
I feel like a lot of us we getold, we get, we're getting older
and we don't stretch.
We gotta stretch um drybrushing as well.
(59:22):
Dry brushing right before youget in the shower, just scrub
your body.
That really gets your lymphaticgoing.
It really gets that drainage,that clogs in your system
loosened up.
Um, red clothes are really goodfor lymphatic.
Um, burdock root and dandelionis really good for your
(59:46):
lymphatic as well.
Also, like just taking a moment, releasing stress right and
deep breathing helps with yourlymphatic as well.
And going to your pressurepoints with, like your knuckles,
yeah, and just rubbing thatthat spot, just rubbing.
And throughout the day, justremember to.
(01:00:06):
You know, let your tongue down,relax your shoulders blink.
A lot of us are just so tensethroughout the day and we just
got to breathe out.
Take a moment.
At least that's my issue.
I get so tense throughout theday and I'm like I got to do
this.
I got to do this.
Slow down, take a minute,breathe, let your shoulders down
(01:00:29):
, release the tongue on top ofyour roof and just breathe out.
Even my four-year-old she tellsme I need a minute, I need to,
I need to breathe I'm like goahead girl you got to breathe in
four times, right.
So we have to just try to reduceour stress.
It's so easy to say, but wehave to reduce our stress and by
(01:00:52):
reminding us of the littlethings that we do on a daily
basis really will help withthose internal diseases.
Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah, that's insightful Cause I I definitely
heard a couple of them things,but some of them things you just
saying it was like, oh, okay,like I got bird, I love bird I
don't know I's since I've beendrinking tea.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
It's like man, like the earth the more earthier, the
better right and even, like Iknow, a lot of people are not
like tea drinkers.
A lot of people don't like tea.
One of my friends said it lookslike piss water.
You know, even if you don'tlike to drink tea, you can do
baths.
Put it in a tea bag and throwit in your If you like to take a
bath at least some grown mendon't but once in a while throw
(01:01:42):
it in your bath and just sit init.
Just sit in it.
That still will.
You still gain the benefits.
Or even a foot bath.
Just put it in a bucket and putyour foot in it, because your
feet is also an absorbent, soyou can just put it in a foot
bath and your body will absorbthose benefits.
Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
So some of the best ways to do it other than well,
I'm about to repeat what youjust said, but that makes sense
here.
Just sit in it and put yourfeet in it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be hard.
You don't have to necessarilydrink it orally, but there are
different ways around it fordifferent people.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So what's the best ways to drain mucus out of your
system?
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Mullein, as you mentioned earlier, mullein is
great for getting the mucus outof your system.
Mullein, as you mentionedearlier, mullein is great for
getting the mucus out of yoursystem.
Reducing your meat content,specifically like chicken
Chicken has the way they producechicken these days is just not
ethical.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
But anyways, yeah, reducing your meat intake and as
well as mullein herbs, andconstantly just drinking
inflammatory, anti-inflammatoryherbs, as well as antioxidant
herbs when it comes to mucus,right, right and keeping
hydrated, keeping hydrated sowhen mixing herbs because a lot
(01:03:20):
of people don't know how to mixthe herbs and put them in a bag
and like how much to do, becauseyou can, you can overdose and
people need to understand youcan overdose on herbs and but it
won't be like you overdose onsome crack or something like
that.
But you can definitely do toomuch and I have.
I got to admit, like I havefailed victims to, you know, and
(01:03:42):
burdock root was one of them,like because I just love the way
it tastes, but like you got toreally be careful about you know
what you, how you mix them in.
You know because it's potent,this stuff be potent and it can
really do something to you.
So how do you usually mix yourteas?
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
so there's a category of stimulant herbs and, um um,
stimulus herbs.
So one has one is the one thatboosts your energy and the one
essentially one that boosts yourenergy and one that's a down
that downs your energy, right.
So you want to be careful whenit comes to mixing those things
(01:04:24):
because you don't want twothings clashing, two herbs
clashing.
So it's so important, as yousaid it's, it's easy to make you
feel.
I I made a batch for rices veryearly in my journey and she
almost went to hospital.
I did not know what I was doing.
But you got to be careful whenit comes to mixing your herbs
and do your research on theherbs because, again, one herb
(01:04:47):
can do 10 things, 10 differentthings.
So, when it comes to mixingyour herbs, you have to have the
knowledge of what's a downerand what's an upper.
Essentially Right, just to putit in lamest terms.
Right, yeah, just do yourresearch and be like can this go
with this?
Can this go with that?
Can this go with this?
Be careful with that.
You can't mix yerba mate andsomething else.
(01:05:12):
You can't even think of anotherherb right now.
Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
But you've got to do your research.
Ultimately.
Yeah, y'all definitely, and Ican attest to that.
Like I said, I fumbled.
Your boy will be a fumble.
But I got back on the horse andI could tell that that's what
it was from, because it was adifferent feeling than anything
that I you know, when you mixthe wrong herbs and you do too
(01:05:41):
much, yeah, that tells you likeit's a different feeling, big
different feeling.
What was you about to say,susan?
Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Even like prime example, when you do hibiscus.
Hibiscus is not the greatestfor men because when it comes to
men's reproductive system, itreally just shrinks up your
reproductive system.
So men should most likely stayaway from hibiscus away from
(01:06:13):
hibiscus.
Okay, A little note there.
It's a sweet herb but it's notnecessarily the best for men,
especially if you are in thatprime years of baby making and
stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Learn something new.
I got a bunch of hibiscus too.
I won't be drinking that.
Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I mean it's not terrible.
Forcus too, I won't be drinkingthat.
I mean it's not terrible foryou, but if you let's say like,
if you want children, if youwant children, maybe stay away
from them for the moment.
Temporarily.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
What would be good for, like, man's libido?
Like because I know it's a lotof brothers that have that issue
right now.
So what would you leave as athing for a man's libido?
Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Ashwagandha.
Ashwagandha is really good.
Ashwagandha is good for womentoo.
What else?
Makarut also good for women.
Let me see.
Karut.
Also good for women.
Let's see, did I mention yourroommate Green tea?
(01:07:21):
It's called gunpowder green tea, specifically.
That's really good for men aswell.
Let's see Ginkgo.
Ginkgo is really good for men.
It helps with the circulation.
All of these help withcirculation.
(01:07:43):
Um maca root helps withfertility and your libido, and
ashwagandha is great for yourmuscle strength and even sexual
health and even reduces stressas well.
So I highly recommendashwagandha, for sure, even for
women too.
Tribulus is really good fortestosterone production.
(01:08:05):
Yeah, just a few there.
Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Okay, well, sis, I definitely enjoy all the
information and I will sit heretaking notes, y'all, like,
please believe, because, like Isaid, I got a lot of these herbs
that she was talking about andI'm like, okay, I didn't know
that I could use that for thattoo, like.
So, all praise to the most highman.
(01:08:31):
We got brothers and sisters outhere that have the knowledge
and can share the wisdom andunderstanding with us.
Like, sis, you are definitelydoing a big thing in the nation
and definitely representing, youknow, your household and the
nation in a positive and arighteous manner.
All praise is to the most high.
(01:08:53):
We thank you and we appreciate,appreciate that your efforts.
So it's definitely like,because, you know, without
sisters and brothers like you,like we, we wouldn't know about
this stuff, you know.
I'm saying like because a lotof us is still, even though we,
in the truth, we stillamericanized, you know that's
true.
Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Great job, yeah, but it's all a journey.
I'm not perfect perfect.
I don't know it all, but I'mdefinitely willing to learn and
pass on the knowledge.
Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Right, and y'all definitely, like I said, man,
y'all support the sister.
She's doing a great service toall, service to all.
You know, like I said, I evenbought some herbs from her for
my wife and, uh, like, we still,we still, she still was using
them.
Like it was some good stuff,like, like, uh, like, oh, I
(01:09:44):
forgot what it was it was thepostpartum tea you got right
yeah, I think so.
Yeah, and yeah, she and my wife,my wife she's like she liked
the way it tasted, but shewasn't going through nothing
like that, but it just, uh, itwas just, you know, something
that I could definitely put onthe shelf.
I put it in my thing and, uh,my little, my little mason jar
(01:10:07):
like that, I got all my herbs inand it'll last for a while.
So, you know, once we haveanother child, and if she does
happen to go through that, thenI got it on deck right.
You know, I'm saying yeah yeah,I'm a hoarder when it comes to
herbs.
Y'all I ain't yeah, you and meboth, man, my god I'll be trying
to find the apocrypha, likeit's one over there in uh in uh,
(01:10:29):
mount healthy on uh, what isthat?
Um, mount Healthy, what is that?
Is that?
I forgot what the name of thestreet is.
It starts with a C, but it'sover there in Mount Healthy
y'all.
Most people probably know whatabout her.
She sells a little good butterand everything too.
Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I've never heard of it, unfortunately, yeah it's on
Compton.
Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yeah, it's on Compton Road, right there.
As soon as you go up Hamilton,make it's on Compton.
Yeah, it's on Compton Road,right there, as soon as you go
up Hamilton, make that right onCompton.
She sits right there on thecorner, nice place y'all Like
big up to the sister.
I forgot the name, but she is apocket fairy.
She definitely has, like, whatyou need.
But we ain't talking about her,we talking about the sister LC.
(01:11:15):
She definitely got what y'allneed.
Y'all go hit her up on her, uh,her websites, uh order
everything she got, causeeverything she got is going to
help you and heal you and makesure you do it y'all.
And, uh, I, we just definitelygot to make sure that the sister
has, you know, the proceeds tobe, continue to do the things
(01:11:35):
that she's doing for, you know,her family and for us, right?
So it's a double thing.
You know she does it for herfamily and for the nation.
So you know, and anybody thatwants to get it like you know,
come get it like, come get thetruth, come get the good
holistic teaching and the goodholistic medicine.
(01:11:57):
Like I said, I ordered somestuff from her.
It came quick and you know, Ieven had a little card and it
was just so nice and I'm like,oh okay, like the way she
packaged it and everything wasgood, like I still got the
package too, y'all, I ain'tgonna lie.
But at the end of the day,y'all, the sister is doing her
thing.
So I'm going to just let her goahead and tell y'all because
(01:12:19):
I'm sure she got a lot of people, a lot of fans, a lot of
followers and all the fans andfollowers that's listening to
the podcast big up to y'all.
Y'all keep on pushing in thename of the Most High, and let
the sister go ahead and telly'all what y'all want to hear,
or what she wants to tell y'allAll your plugs, all your links
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Just my Facebook, lc Israel, my Etsy shop, herbal
Crown, and honestly, that'sreally it.
That's really it.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah, definitely, oh yeah.
So it's an opportunity.
I've been trying to get you ona podcast and I definitely might
have to get you on another one,because I wanted to do a like a
segment called Every HerbYielding Seed.
You know that sounds so good ohyeah, definitely.
(01:13:14):
So we might have to.
You know, talk in thebackground about you know some
projects, some up and comingprojects and stuff like that.
Cause I'm definitely looking todo, you know, more of a
holistic side too.
Like you know, I do a lot oftruth music and stuff like that,
but I be wanting to be aholistic and have, like spoken
word and just a diverse type ofyou know interview interviewees.
(01:13:38):
So I definitely appreciate youcoming on, sis and uh, it's been
a beautiful build.
Definitely you got to get youback on here.
We both got some time and youknow I'm a I'm gonna have a
little bit more structured uhinterview so I can reel you a
little bit more and pick yourbrain.
But all praise to the most high.
We thank you, we appreciate youfor coming in.
(01:14:01):
This is your boy, abiy, on theStick to Truth Podcast and we
are hosted.
We are not on.
Let me get that straight.
We are hosted.
I just set up our music radiostation.
All praise to the most high.
Y'all get home safely, man,until next Wednesday at 12 pm
Eastern Time.
Y'all have a good week and agood weekend and a good Saturday
(01:14:24):
.
Peace, thank you, thank you,bye.
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