September 12, 2025 • 79 mins
In this captivating conversation with Sister LC, we journey into the world of holistic healing through the hands of a passionate practitioner dedicated to reclaiming ancestral knowledge. As a certified holistic practitioner for three years, Sister LC shares her extensive expertise in creating natural remedies that serve both her family and community.
The discussion reveals Sister LC's impressive array of handcrafted products - from specialized tea blends addressing everything from gut health to menstrual cycles, to natural soaps, deodorants, and even glycerite medicines specifically formulated for children. Her attention to detail shines as she explains the nuances of proper herbal preparation, noting how different plants require specific steeping methods to extract their full medicinal benefits.
What makes this conversation particularly valuable is Sister LC's balanced approach to holistic healing. She emphasizes that natural remedies aren't one-size-fits-all, stating "just because it works for this person doesn't mean it's going to work for you too." This wisdom reflects her commitment to integrity in her practice, preferring to perfect her formulations before sharing them widely.
Beyond the practical aspects of herbalism, the episode touches on deeper themes of community support and economic independence. Sister LC and her husband (who runs Living Waters Fire Protection) represent a model of self-sufficiency within the Hebrew Israelite community. Their entrepreneurial spirit speaks to the importance of creating sustainable solutions and supporting Black-owned businesses.
As Sister LC powerfully reminds us, "Take care of yourself. You got one body. You got one life." Her work isn't just about selling products—it's about preserving traditional wisdom and empowering others to reclaim control over their health through natural means. Whether you're a seasoned herbalist or simply curious about natural alternatives, this episode offers valuable insights into holistic living from someone who truly walks the talk.
Connect with Sister LC on Facebook to learn more about her products and holistic practices!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
find the love, feeling like dory finding nemo.
I've been looking, I've beensearching.
It's supposed to be here and Iknow it when I see it because I
can feel it in the air.
But this ain't it.
No, this don't even feel right.
I've been unplugged from thematrix.
I can finally see right.
I'm eliminating the sheeple.
I need more fierce than neo,the camson of the word for
(00:20):
church that's holding all thefetal.
He said you don't need theircollege.
I'm trying to feed youknowledge, if you have the ear
to hear it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
All praises to the most high.
What's going on?
Y'all, y'all know how it is.
Man, it's another.
I was about to mess it up again.
Y'all my bad, don't even Don'tmind me, it's been a long one.
We got another one with SisterLC, and this is part two.
(00:48):
Let me bring us up on thescreen.
My bad, y'all my bad.
This is part two.
Part two, and we spitting ourtruth.
Definitely, man, I'm real bigon holistic medicine and stuff
like that, and Sister is aholistic practitioner, a
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certified holistic practitioner.
Let me get it right, becauseshe corrected me the last time
Like bro, no, this is what it is, and I'm like, okay, like my
bad for messing it up.
So she is a Certified holisticpractitioner and the sister has
so many products and just thingsshe's doing.
(01:32):
I'm going to let her just Goahead and reintegrate, you know,
and introduce herself, becauseDefinitely she's a Dope sister
and she's doing a lot of thingsIn the community.
So I'm going to let her goahead and do her thing.
I'll praise this.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Praise y'all.
My name is Elsie Israel.
I am a certified holisticpractitioner.
As he said, I'm just in a phaseof learning on how to provide
for my family in a healthymanner and depending less on the
outer world.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So yeah, and how long have you been doing this again?
We'll just go integrate some ofthe last questions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Regarding herbalism for about three years now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, three years, that's what's up.
And you say that you wanted tolearn how to work with your
hands and to provide for yourfamily.
That's value and that's realrights for you to uh to be on
that, that path and that mode.
You know, and I'm sure yourfamily and your husband enjoys
all the things that you do,because I know that with
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holistic medicine and holisticpractice becomes a healthier
life and you know, your skin isvibrant.
Look at her skin y'all, it'sjust real vibrant.
I mean, you know, come on,y'all, y'all got to really
understand that holistic healthis like a big thing that we
should be practicing.
And for those that that dopractice it and know it, we
(03:09):
should, we should really supportthem and uh buy their stuff,
you know.
So where where does you saythat you had most of your, your
product set right?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I currently have my product on etsy shop.
However, it's not updated.
I will update it in a couple ofweeks or so, but you're welcome
to directly reach out to me andlet me know like, hey, I want
this shipped to me and I canmake that happen.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right, so what's one of your best sellers?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
so far it's going to be my teas, my teas, um.
I have different types of teablends for different purposes,
such as gut health, umpostpartum pregnancy, um men's
wellness tea, women's wellness T, menstrual cycle T I think that
sums it up for the most partand, oh, lung T.
I also do accommodate tocustomization of any blends.
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Like hey, I got this going on,I got a respiratory situation
going on, I'll make a blend foryou too.
So I do accommodate to customblends.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So are the custom blends extra Like?
Do you have to pay an extracharge for that?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
No, they're not.
Each bag is about 45 grams,which can make about 32 cups of
teas.
And again, they're all organicherbs.
I have grown some of themmyself, and so the source
matters as well.
It's also some of the herbsthat I do have are also locally
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grown as well here in Ohio.
Yeah, integrity matters to me,so it's not just, you know, just
collecting it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'll pray for I and and it should, because you know
when, when you're dealing withholistic medicine, you
definitely have to have a goodreputation and you know and walk
with a rightness, because youcould really hurt somebody and,
uh, you know and and misdiagnosesomebody and they'd be all bad.
(05:24):
But um, so you said that they,they're.
So what would be the best wayto steep tea, like what would be
from from tea bag to actual tea?
Like give us a step-by-step tomake the best tea to be that I
have the optimal result um, Ithink the best one would be like
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um, what's it called frenchpress?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
like people who have a french press?
Um, there are multiple ways todo it.
Um, I don't think there'snecessarily a best, it really
just is up to personalpreference.
So, but the most common wouldeasier, I should say, for most
people, because sometimes peoplelike want the gadgets and
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whatnot, but, um, just boiling acup of hot water and um,
putting the herbs into it, andthen after 10 to 15 minutes you
strain the herbs out of it, youadd any type of sweetener or no
sweetener, depending on what you, how you prefer your teas, and
yeah, you're good to go okay,okay.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So how long should you steep the tea?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
for about 10 to 15 minutes.
However, you can't do that withall herbs.
Like certain herbs you can'tlike, example, marshmallow root.
It's best to get themadditional benefits.
You have to steep it in roomtemp for about 24 hours, or 12
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to 24 hours, instead of hotwater, because then you're
essentially burning the herbs.
So you have to be knowledgeableon which herbs can benefit you,
based off of the temperature ofthe water.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Essentially, Right, I never known that I have
marshmallow food too.
I never known that you'resupposed to sleep at room
temperature.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So you learn something new every day, right?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
so which other one would like?
Just off of the top of yourhead, which other one is?
Is something similar to thesteeping method, like that?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
um, any type of bark, like any type of bark, you
gotta let it steep for a littlelonger than the example like the
flower, such as like calendulaand whatnot.
So, um, barks just need alittle more time to steep, and
barks are also on the bitterside as well, so you need a
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little more time for that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That is interesting.
Never known that.
So how long did it teach you,how long did it take you to
really like memorize a lot ofdifferent like herbs and methods
on how to?
Was it the whole three years orwas it just, you know, a short
amount of time because ofrepetition or Let me preface by
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saying I don't know everything.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I am still learning, I'm still in this industry, um,
but when it comes to how longI've learned this, I think it's
just a matter of experience.
As I go like, okay, today I'mfeeling like this what can I do
to help this beyond right?
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And so you do your research,you open up your books and
you're like okay, this, this iswhat, this is what's good for
this and this is what's not goodfor this.
You know.
So it's a it's a go as youlearn, as you go type situation.
You don't learn everything inone day gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So what's your favorite thing to make, like
your favorite healthy thing tomake, juice regarding peas, oh,
food or anything, yeah, anything, period gosh, that's such a big
question okay, so let me makeit more blanketed then.
So what's your favorite tea?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
first, let's do that my favorite tea blend, or just
like one type of herb your teablend that you like that you
personally drink the mostsomething neutral drink, the
most you know.
Something neutral would bedandelion root and a nettle leaf
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and the other one.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Why do you call it neutral?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Because it kind of covers, it has a wide range of
benefits, okay, and so, um, justthose those two specific herbs
that I, off the top of my dome,um kind of has hits all the
check marks for you know,magnesium, iron and protein, all
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the vitamins, and, like I saidit, it protein, all the vitamins
, and, like I said, it justchecks all the boxes and it's
not bitter, right.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I hear a lot of people talk about that bitter
fruit, the little green bitterfruit thing, that you can take
it and it helps to cure cancerand a lot of other things.
What is your take on it?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
What is it called?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It's like a little bitter fruit.
Hold on, that's what it'scalled bitter fruit or bitter
herb.
It's like a little green.
It looks like a jalapeno withchicken pox or something like
that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm not sure if I've heard of that.
Um, I do know about bitter leaf, but it's a leaf.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm not sure if it's a fruit yeah, hold on, let me
see, because I was looking at itthe other day and a lot of
people was talking about itbitter melon, that's what it's
called okay, what do I think ofit?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I mean, if it's, if it works, it works right and
also too.
Just because it works for thisperson doesn't mean it's going
to work for you too.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know I'm sorry, one more time.
No, I said I ain't mean to cutyou out, but I remember you was
telling us about that on thelast time that you know, just
because it works for some people, it doesn't work for you.
You know Right that.
You know just because it worksfor some people it doesn't work
for you, you know right.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So, yeah, you one has to be careful about what
they're consuming, because itmay apply to somebody else and
not apply to you too.
But again, if it works for you,you know, go ahead and run with
it right, right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So what would you say is the best, best way to to
like, get the best uses out ofit?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Out of what exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The bitter melon.
Have you ever had to deal withit before?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I honestly have not dealt with it myself, so I can't
much speak on it.
Yeah, with lack of experience,I don't want to speak up or
misinform anyone right.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So what would be your ?
Your favorite food, like yourfavorite dish to cook like
breakfast, lunch or dinner?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
so lately I have been um craving my cultural food,
like onion food, and so I'vebeen cooking a lot of like
starchy and spicy foods, becausethat's common in my culture, so
yeah, starchy and spicy foodsyes so what was Once one dish
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you done cooked this week?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That was like, yeah, I think I might Cook this again
or I might put this in therepertoire.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I made some.
It's called light soup, okay,but it's basically just A tomato
based soup with um meat, withdifferent type of meat, such as
like um beef or sometimes goatmeat.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Some people feel fish different types of fish in
there, so yeah okay, oh, man,and that that sounds like it's
pretty good, especially withsome fish in it too, you know.
So, yeah, it's like stew fishor stew meat in a salad, uh,
soup, okay, what you eating withrice or what yes, so um, I let
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my kids eat it with rice.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But there are different types of carbs you can
eat it with, such as like I'mnot sure if you've heard of like
fufu you can eat it with fufu.
Or sometimes people just eat itwith rice.
My kids eat it with rice okay,I love fufu.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I don't cook it a lot , but I love it.
So what would be your favoritejuice?
Say that again your favoritejuice that you would uh like um
my favorite juice let me saythis okay and let me say this,
so your favorite juice.
Let me say this and let me saythis so your favorite juice that
you like to make, that would bethat's like the most beneficial
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to you know, like to to youknow your, your immune system,
that's just more, that's themost beneficial that you can
drink every day.
It won't be like I'm coincidingwith other things that I'm
doing.
I've learned, too, that withcertain things like if you drink
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a certain juice, you shouldn'tdrink a certain tea, you got to
space it out, just like medicine, like you know what I'm saying.
So what would you say?
It was to be the best.
And your favorite juice, thatcould be like, like you say,
neutral um, I think um hibiscus.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Hibiscus will be my go-to.
I do make juice for, orlemonades for, the farmer's
market and the top seller ishibiscus and soursop with
lemonade sweetened with canesugar.
And, regarding taste-wise,people prefer that and visually
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it is a burgundy color, sopeople are attracted to that.
However, personally I do likethe butterfly pea flower with
cinnamon and um butterfly peaflower is more of a um outer
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beneficial um herb it helps withyour hair and your skin and
then um the cinnamon, inaddition to the cane flour, I
mean cane sugar, um adds adifferent type of sweetener and
benefits as well.
Also to you.
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I think it's not a juice butelderberry syrup.
I love making elderberry syrup,especially for my children,
just to minimize the sicknessand whatnot.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So what do you put in yours?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
For the elderberry, I put cloves, which is
antibacterial.
I put lemons, I put ginger andcinnamon.
And I have to boil for about anhour with the elderberries and
you add some honey.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I didn't know.
You boiled it for an hour.
When I made it, I put some ofthe same things that you put in
there, but I didn't boil it foran hour.
It's just the smell of theelderberries.
After a while it gets to you.
It's very strong.
I'll get this in the jar realquick, but I would know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I've never known that , though that's something new
every day, an hour yeah, yougotta cook it, cause that
ittleberry it's hard, it's ahard berry, so you gotta cook it
for a while for it to soften upand release all the benefits
yeah, and that's they.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I heard that you can't like that's something that
you can't really.
You can take every day, but youshould take small doses of it
so you won't like overdose itcan harm you.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, yeah, yes, you be careful.
Now, when you are really sick,you take like a teaspoon a day,
but yeah, that's definitely withcaution.
Take that with caution, forsure.
It's not juice, it's not juice.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah yeah, people can be making gummies and stuff.
I'm like man, that's tooenticing, you can't Right,
because elderberry actuallytastes good.
It actually tastes good, it'sjust like man, I agree.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I agree, it takes over the whole kitchen.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's funny, yeah it does like man, you gotta gotta
cook some fish or something likethat, I don't know, because it
it'd be horrible, but uh, sowhat?
What's your take on?
Uh, black seed oil, because Iheard a lot of people you know
talk about it wasn't good andthen it was.
It is good and it's like youknow you get mixed reactions
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when it makes uh you knowresponses and I'm just like,
well, what would be the best,you know?
Is it good for us or not?
What do you?
What is your take on it?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I've heard some great testimonies with black seed
oils and how it just clarifiesyour body of illnesses.
I myself I don't have the oil,but I do have the actual seeds
and I will put like a few in mytea bag when I'm making um.
That too, I feel like it needsto be treated like elderberry,
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where you gotta cook it for awhile to really gain the
medicinal benefits off of it,because again it is like a hard,
a hard seed, but um, again, ifit works for you, you know who's
to say otherwise.
Right If you are indefinitelyseeing the benefits of it.
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Why not?
But again, I've heard more goodthan bad when it comes to
especially the oil.
Right, right, and make surethat it's like your source is
reputable, because a lot ofpeople just sell anything these
days.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to put it in my tea.
Okay, I have a bird type of teawith some ashwagandha and I
will put like a drop in it,because that stuff is super
wrong.
I will put a drop in it with alittle bit of lemon and it'll
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keep me warm and feeling goodall through the morning until it
was gone.
But it was nice though.
Black seed oil is one of thosethose uh things like you said.
Uh, elderberry, you know yougotta cook it.
You should cook it long and youshould not take a lot of it,
even like you should definitelynot take a lot of it because you
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I've heard people overdose onit yeah, too much of a good
thing is not good.
You gotta yeah, there's gotta besome balance right, so what's
the new project you're workingon?
You got anything.
Any any kind of new projectsyou're working on?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
um, like I said earlier, I have been working on
soaps, like bar soaps, as wellas um liquid soaps.
Um, just today actually, I mademy first bottle of all-purpose
soap from castile soap and thiscleaner my excuse me,
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all-purpose cleaner from thecastile soap, and I made another
batch.
I made another batch of my dishsoap from the Castile soap, so
I'm just trying to perfect thatformula and you know, I don't
remember the last time I boughtdish soap.
So my praise, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
She's making dish soap y'all.
The last time you was makingdeodorant, last time we it was.
You was making what deodorantLast time we talked, or
something she said she wasmaking deodorant.
I'm like man.
Is there anything that youcan't make, like you know?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And I'm still learning.
I don't know everything, but Iam still learning.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I get that, but I definitely get that.
But it's a definite joy to seelike your page and see all the
things that you're doing.
There's all the stuff thatyou're coming up with, and it's
like this stuff ain't nothingthat anybody else can't do, it's
just you just put your hands todo it and your hands and your
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heart to do it and make ithappen.
And they'd be like like, yeah,where's her?
Uh, just take my money likethat once.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to add to that um laundry
soap non-toxic laundry soap toojust take my money that's funny
, but yeah, I'm just justlearning.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I get it.
I get it, but, like a lot of usdon't know, like cause a lot of
us, you know, we still try togo to you know these stores and
buy, you know, like clean soapand clean detergent and it don't
be clean, like we just foundout the 17th generation is crap
and you know all this otherstuff, and it's like wow, it
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don't be clean, we just foundout the 7th generation is crap
and all this other stuff.
It's like wow, can't win.
Yeah, when we have a system.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It goes back to what we talked about last time is
convenience.
I don't fault people becausepeople don't have the time to do
these stuff.
I have the time, but youraverage person doesn't have the
time.
I don't fault people becausepeople don't have the time to do
these stuff.
I have the time, but youraverage person doesn't have the
time.
So I don't fault people for not, you know, doing what I do or
going to the extent of doingresearch, because I understand
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that people don't have timeright, okay, all right, but so
that's why we got sisters andbrothers like you.
Yeah, that's why you got me.
I'll do the work for you.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So I'm looking into the camera.
Y'all better go buy her stuffIf you don't support.
You know what I'm going to say.
Y'all, you a hater, you a hater, I'm telling you right now.
Because sister got got a lot ofstuff going on and you know it's
like I say I can't keep.
You know, reintegrating that.
It's a beautiful thing to see,you know, sister moving in the
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way that you're moving in and,you know, just doing it for the
community and doing it fory'all's people, so that's a good
thing and a lot of peopleshould support you.
I don't know why you said you'dbe selling out.
So you get a lot of support.
And, brothers and sisters, ify'all in the Cincinnati area,
you know, go to the farmer'smarket where she at, and you
know, buy her out, sell her out,like you know, because she's
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going to come back next Sundaywith more shit you know what I'm
saying and more stuff.
So definitely know what I'msaying.
And then more stuff, sodefinitely.
But uh, when you said you wasmaking your own deodorant, I'm
like, yeah, I, where's her?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
website.
That's mainly specifically that, because I know people, like
majority of the population, arelike natural deodorant that's
just gonna make you stink more.
Which, um?
Yes, when, when you startdetoxing your body, yes, you
will experience the stink.
But, once your body adapts andyou detox your body, your body
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adapts.
So I have yet to hear acomplaint, especially from my
husband, because he will speakhis mind.
But I've been doing it for afew years now and that's mainly
based off of personal request,because there's out of
everything I make when, if Iwere to turn it a transactional
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child, it's gonna beoverwhelming.
So most of the things I make isbased off of request, because
then I have to think aboutlabels and packaging and it can
be overwhelming, right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, you, just one person, so grow, essentially
because it is such a bigresponsibility.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, but you know, with the ass timing, I think
everything will work out in theway that it should.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, it should definitely Do you.
You said that you, so let'stouch on that, that whole scare
thing, because I think that thatpeople, when you have a dream,
and it's the dreams, it scaresyou, it's your dream, it's for
you, you know, it's just that itthings that we want and want to
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accomplish, they shouldn't,they shouldn't be small and they
shouldn't not scare us, you'reright.
The steps to get there is, likeyou know, we are scared of the
steps that it's going to take,because sometimes, when you walk
up steps, your thighs beburning.
You walk up too many of them.
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So I think that's what we'rescared of is our thighs burning.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's very true.
That's very true From myperspective.
I don't want to invest inlabels and containers and all
the equipment and ingredients itrequires and labels and
containers and all the equipmentand ingredients it requires to
make this thing and I sellnothing, because then that's a
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waste of money.
Essentially, granted, I'm goingto use it eventually, I'm going
to drink my teas, I'm going touse my soaps, but it's just a
matter of wasting time andenergy when it's not going to be
fruitful.
You know, everybody wants tosucceed, nobody wants to fail,
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and I think the scaredness isfailure.
But nothing beats a try but afailure.
So you know, you just got totry it and I think I'm just
trying to take baby steps.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's part of part.
Part of success is failure, youknow yes, Because you wouldn't
know how to get to the bag ifyou didn't fail.
You know what?
I'm saying If you did, you'llhate it, but I, you know, I.
I think that you know what youdoing, doing like the most high
said, in all his, in all yourways, you know you keep him
first.
I think that what you're doingis just that you know when you,
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when you, when you do a servicefor his people, you service in
here.
You know you helping his peopleto live a better and more
righteous, cleaner life.
You know you helping them tokeep to that law and keep to
that Torah.
Yeah, I think he'll definitelyhelp you and show you that grace
because you're not doingnothing.
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That's not detrimental.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, like, yeah, you have adetrimental cost.
It's like the calling that youhave and the gifts that he has
given you are not for nothing.
You are a healer, you know, andit's not a lot of people in our
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nation that have that healingability, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Well, when you put it that way, yeah, yeah, you know
what I'm saying.
When you put it that way, youmake a good point, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You got to think of it like that, because the Most
High is definitely he says, likehe says, I wake my servants up
early and send them out to thenation.
You know and I'm not to saythat you up early in the morning
every day, but early as far aslike in the mindset you know
what I'm saying Like having thatmindset that hey, yeah, I got
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to get this done because notonly am I servicing my family
but I'm servicing my people, youknow, y'all's people.
So, yeah, you doing a damnthing, and I appreciate that.
Yeah, that yeah, definitelyhats off to you.
I uh, like I said, I'm real bigon holistic medicine.
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I'm real big on it I got, uh,books and stuff like that.
I don't read them as much as Iused to, but I definitely like
dibble and dabble and I'm I tryto make sure that, um, that I
ingest, you know, something fromthe earth at least once a day,
if not twice.
You know I'm saying, and that'swhat a lot of people need to do
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is, like, you know, putsomething in it that that's from
mother earth in your body.
You know, like it ain't, likeit's I go, it's gonna do
something to you, you know.
So, yeah, definitely, so it'syou.
You're something to you.
So, yeah, definitely.
So it's you doing your thing.
And you know, I know, that themost high is because I see it.
You can see the most highesttouch and glow on certain people
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.
You know what I'm saying.
You can, yeah, you see it andpeople see it on you.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
People see it on you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh, yeah, all praises .
And I, I know that, uh, I knowyour husband's happy about it
and he and you know, because our, our reputations are our wife,
because the first thing when Iwant to want to, when somebody
talks about your husband, thefirst thing, yeah, his wife,
yeah, his wife was out heredoing it.
That's his reputation.
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So you know you're doing him aservice and you're doing the
most high service all praises.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
So I definitely needed that I needed that
motivation because you know,sometimes you do get, I do get
doubtful because I'm like youknow what am I doing?
I'm just here, but um, yeah,thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I agree, that's definitely something to um
deeply meditate on and greatlyconsider, so appreciate that
yeah, I ain't trying to push youinto, you know, a future, a
fortune 500 company right now,but you know, just to let you
know, that that is brothers likebrothers and it's people like
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me, your family, that thatappreciates what you're doing
yeah we appreciate what you'redoing yeah and definitely will
support.
You know I'm saying we'llsupport, right you know?
Yeah, I guess I'm just tryingto get into the phase of
perfecting what I'm saying willsupport, right you?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
know, yeah, I guess I'm just trying to get into the
phase of perfecting what I havebefore I introduce it to
everyone else, right?
So it's like I don't want tojust put out any and everything
just because I said I made itfor the first time.
I want to perfect this thingand then introduce it, you know,
because it goes back tointegrity and yeah, ultimately
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that's what it boils down to.
And again, I'm still learningbecause there's more than one
way to skin the cat.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Right, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But then it's like when do you gauge when things
are perfect?
It's just a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's why you got your husband.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
And, hubby, you're going to have to be the lab rat.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
bro, You're going to have to be the lab rat and help
her get it right.
Yeah, help her get it right soshe can push it to the community
.
Man, like he's got to take thatL, like that's what he's there
for, you know, to help you behealthy, and I'm sure he does,
because I see it on your page.
You know what I'm saying, yourpage and everything how you know
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y'all just such a loving familyand that's a good thing too.
You know that you have a lovingfamily and you have that
support, you know, becausewithout the support it'd be hard
.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I agree.
I agree, I'm definitelygrateful for what I have for
sure.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Right, all praises, all praises.
So I definitely, like I said,I'm looking forward to the next
thing.
You know what you coming upwith next.
Do you do topicals and stufflike that and aerosols?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And what sauce.
And aerosols sauce like spraysum, I do do hair sprays.
Um, I have hair sprays thatalign with my hair oils that I
make as well.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So, yeah, yeah if y'all ain't on her page buying
everything she got y'all but Ithat's the thing I don't post
everything I make.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't post everything I make.
I get it, I get it Again.
I'm just trying to perfect itbehind the closed doors and then
if I post it, that means I gotit down right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But just to know that that's what you're working on.
In the background is hairspray,natural, holistic hairspray
y'all.
Where have y'all heard that atlike who's doing that?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
but that's not but the scripture says there's
nothing new under the sun, right, right.
And so every somewhere on thisplanet, somebody has done
something that I'm looking tolearn about or I'm looking to
explore I it, and that's why Itry not to be boastful, because
somebody out there has probablydone it 10 times better than I
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have.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well, hey, let others boast on you, let other people
give you your flowers.
See, I'm real big on givingpeople flowers where they can
smell them, because not a lot ofpeople like not a lot of our
people, and it sucks that.
You know, our people are not asclose-knit as we supposed to be
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.
It's not as supportive andunified as we supposed to be.
So it's it.
You know, we, we only hear, andthat's.
We have close friends.
That's in the truth.
But we only get to smell ourflowers, like you know, at least
once a week, and that's on theSabbath day, and that shouldn't
be cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, it's cool, but itshould be more than that.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I have always had that stance.
There is no reason why weshould not be gathering outside
of the Shabbat day.
The Shabbat day is mandatory,but outside of that, by choice,
we should be linking up a lotmore than we do, and so I'm with
you on that.
Take for sure, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I definitely feel that it should be more of a
community.
You know, we that's how wecheck each other, that's how we
learn from each other, that'show we build.
You know, and that's what toriis is checking each other,
loving each other and buildingwith each other you know, I
think people are just sohesitant, are just hesitant to
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trust each other.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Everybody knows everything.
Every man is writing in his owneyes, right, and so it is very
saddening when I think about itas a whole, because, as much as
we know, we're the IsraeliteHebrew community.
We lack From the depths of it,in my opinion, we lack true
community, and it's sad to meand it's sad to me, but
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hopefully one of these days wecan figure it out.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
So why do you feel other than the lack of trust?
What else do you feel isplaying a role in it too?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
you feel is playing a role in it too?
I think it's the um, becauseamerica as a whole is based off
of individualism, like every manfor themselves, and so we, as
hebrews, have adopted thatmindset as well.
Right, it's just me and mine.
I'm worried about myself, right, and so, um, unfortunately,
only the most high can fix this.
You know how?
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How long have people been inthis community and um haven't
had a bad relationship with thenext hebrew?
You know, I don't know.
It's just, it's unfortunate tome when I think about it as a
whole, but I don't have theanswers.
I'm just a baby in here.
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I'm just a baby in the bunch.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Right, right.
But you know what?
There are classes that areIsraelites that are moving and
uniting in certain fashions, incertain manners and you know I
can't speak for you know thevast majority of Israelites, but
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I know some camps andcongregations are trying to
unify.
The camp that you go to, theclass that you go to, they do a.
I remember they was like one ofthe first classes to do like a
feed in the poor circuit whenthey was going around in
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different cities and stuff likethat and you know, just feeding
the poor.
And they still do it on everySunday and that was one thing
that I always admired about thatclass, because they got out
there in the streets and theyjust was on the internet behind
safety, they was out there inthe trenches and they was
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getting things done.
That was one thing that I couldappreciate and admire about the
brothers and sisters that classbut the thing is, other other
classes don't join.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
That's the unfortunate part.
That's the community base,that's the coming together.
You know, this is for a greatercause.
It was just last week we didlike a school drive where we had
backpacks, books, children'stoys, children's clothing and
food and, um, it goes back to,as far as I'm concerned.
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I know the lady who sends outthe text messages, the
announcements.
She lets, she informs otherclasses.
Hey, this is what we're doingat this time at this location
and people still don't show up.
I understand, people have workon the first day, but one person
you know, yeah, that's what Imean by.
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There's a great division, forsure, and I hate that.
I hate that for us, I really doright.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, that is ugly, because it can be a lot better
and we can be a lot better andwe can definitely move in a
better way.
Like I didn't know that theywere actually like giving out
Wow, and see that speaks to youknow.
Wow, and see that speaks to youknow.
(41:30):
Wow, I don't even know what tosay about that.
That's deep.
Like that's deep, yeah, becausethe thing of it is is that we
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were called to come together.
We were called to come togetherand be as a righteous nation
and to help each other andothers.
You know, and that's law.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You can't say that you are a Torah keeper and we're
not even doing the basics Right, and that's why we're here in
the first place.
That's why God is here in thefirst place.
And how many hundreds of yearslater, we still haven't figured
it out.
It's very discouraging, I mustsay, because at some point you
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do end up giving up, because whowants to constantly get
rejected?
Come together, come together,come together.
Okay, at some point I'm gonnagive up, right, because now my
spirits are down, right.
But um, hopefully we figure itout, hopefully yahweh, can, can,
will bring us together Soonerthan later.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
See, this is a conviction, but you know, cause
and this is Abiyah Speaking youknow the sister said how she
felt, and you know.
But I'ma say what I feel, causethis is the truth and that's
what I do.
But I've Always talked that.
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I've always talked about, eventhough I have, like you know,
had my my fair share of uh, upsand downs with brothers and
sisters in the city.
You know it, I've always beenabout unity, I've always been
about coming, I've always beenabout coming together, I've
always been about doingsomething extra or more than
just a Sabbath class, and that'swhy I say I admire the brothers
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and sisters down there becausethey were doing it.
They were doing stuff.
One thing that I don't likeabout some of these classes here
is that they talk about themessianics.
They talk about, you know, themessianicists, the messianic
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sect, the Christians, theMuslims, but all these factions
that they talk about have unityand uniformity at that.
You know what I'm saying.
And when, if you go, and If yougo, put your hands on a nation
of Islam, brother, it's gonna bea Thousand of them in Chocobac
Doe.
You know what I'm saying.
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They don't play games, theyhave gardens, they have
community gardens, they teachtheir children self defense.
They homeschool their children.
Their sisters know how to dothings.
Their brothers know how.
We don't even have a class.
Their sisters know how to dothings.
Their brothers know how.
We don't even have a class toteach our brothers how to hunt
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and fish and gather and all thatstuff like that.
But we want to talk about Torah, we want to talk about Bible
scriptures.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, we ain't got to talk.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
No, let's talk about it because it's actually very
frustrating because just a primeexample my husband runs his own
company.
He's an expert in firesprinklers and he started his
business and the initial thoughtwas let me start this business
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so my brothers can come workwith me and I can essentially
feed their family.
Right, this is a communitybased situation.
Oh my God, that's beautiful.
Right, this is bigger than justyou and, to be fair and to be
frank and honest, it's been sucha fail.
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And when I say the business isnot a fail because he's thriving
in the business, but regardingbrothers wanting to learn and be
able to feed their familiesthrough another brother and grow
with the brother and grow witha brother something that's
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generational nobody's showing up.
Nobody's showing up.
But now you want to complainthat you have no money when you
could help your brother buildhis business so he can help you
feed your family.
But you don't want to work, youjust want handouts.
You want to get paid $40 anhour over something that you
don't even know, and it's sofrom a wife standpoint, from the
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outsider looking, it's likepeople are not willing to do the
work.
They want the easy way out.
And then you complain about nothaving money because the system
, because the system, because awhite man is a white man.
But when do you look in themirror and say, ok, it begins
with me and it stops with me.
And I think we just fail tohave accountability, sometimes
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because we want to blame.
Then, when you have, whenyou're pointing one I've always
said this when you're pointing afinger, you always have three
coming back at you.
I've always said this whenyou're pointing a finger, you
always have three coming back atyou and to me again, I just,
it's just.
We need to start doing more.
Although my particular class atKemperling, we do feed the poor
most first days of the week, wecan do more, right.
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We can do more.
We can do more right, we can domore.
We can have more gatheringsregarding, you know, helping
each other overall in whateversector we need, but with the
whole of the community, there isa lack of trust with one
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another is what I have noticed.
But yeah, I'm only one person,joel.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
But this is the thing right, and you know we can't
even use like the lack of trust,because the most high told us
not to trust man.
He told us not to trust eachother.
He said trust me, don't putyour trust in your brother you,
because he's gonna fail you.
He's gonna fail you, butbelieve that the brothers gonna
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do right by you leave.
Believing and trusting is twodifferent things, you're right,
you know so.
When, when I believe thatyou're gonna be right with me,
it's a, it's an area of gray inthere, you know I'm saying, yeah
, that where that trust wassupposed to have been, but it's
not there, because I put my allmy trust in the most fact.
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So, but I believe that you'regoing to be right with me.
What I've, what I'veexperienced just is that it's
because it wasn't their idea,it's because they didn't come up
with it first that's fine,though, like, that's okay, as
long as it's, as long as it'syour brother.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
You know my husband, you go out to these jobs and
you're wearing mingled uniform.
My husband, 100 caught inuniform.
It's about unity, you know, andhe's willing to work with your
schedule.
You know you want to come in atthis time.
You don't want to workfull-time, you can work
part-time, and it's like thelack of support and the lack of
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yeah, ultimately the lack ofsupport is, um, it's, it's.
It's so bizarre to me becauseif I'm eating, you're eating too
, and that should be thementality.
Why are we depending on JohnSmith to feed us?
We shouldn't be, and nobody'swilling to grow from the root.
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Well, I could talk about this.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I get it.
I totally understand where youcoming from about the lack of
support, and you know it it.
Why wouldn't you want to workfor your brother that that you
know is going to do and treatyou as a tour keeping brother?
Should you know, when we treateach other by tour and we do
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business by tour, it's a one-up.
It's a one-up Like it's a legup, because in business, the way
that tour is structured, youare supposed to look at your
workers like they family, theynot supposed to be workers.
They're supposed to look atyour workers like they family.
They they not supposed to beworkers, they're supposed to be
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family.
So you treat them the same waythat you would treat your son
that works for you it's a leg up.
But that's why I say these a lotof brothers and sisters.
They say they, they keep intourists, but they ain't they
fly, they lie I think you knowit's ego.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, it's that too.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
But I, I really do think that and I really do, you
know, wish that that brothersand sisters would come together
and uh and help one another,because I mean, she's about to
hit the fan, it's about to getugly.
You know what I'm saying theway that you know, quavius is
doing his thing Like he ain'teven man.
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He ain't no hoes boy out here,for nobody Like you know what
I'm saying, Truly truly.
Yeah.
So we got to start moving andcoming together, like you know,
and really helping each other.
Because, like, I didn't like,wow, like that's, I would love
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to work for my brother, like ifI knew that my brother had like
a trucking business or somethinglike that.
There's a couple brothers thatI knew in the troop that I
wanted to work for, and you knowthey, you know it, just ain't
they, they didn't pick me so itwas like okay, whatever, but you
know, I, I would love to workfor my brother.
Like why would I want to workfor, you know, john white or you
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know anybody else that ain't go, that ain't gonna honor the
sabbath, that ain't gonna honorthe feast days, that ain't going
to honor the Sabbath, thatain't going to honor the feast
days, that ain't going to honorthe fact that I have a certain
type of diet you know what I'msaying that's not going to honor
the fact that stop asking me towork on the Sabbath, when I
told you a hundred times no, nowI'm feeling disrespected.
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You know A lot of thesecompanies do that.
But to work for my brother,that's something different, you
know, it's a different feel.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
I'm not sure what that's about.
We move.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
And I see that you know as a sister and as a wife,
it gets to you.
I can see it.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Absolutely, because it makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense to me.
I just it's not a matter ofwho's the boss or who's under
you.
It's like let's grow this thingtogether, the hand in hand.
Let's do this thing man andeverybody wants to be the boss,
the leader.
It's like's like oh, thatdoesn't matter, the titles don't
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matter, it's about the mission,and people are not willing to
invest in the mission.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
You know one thing that I do take from when Alicia
was teaching, he said he waslike man a brother can't call
himself a leader if he ain't gothis own business and he ain't
doing something to employ hisbrethren.
You know what I'm saying and itwas I'm just paraphrasing, but
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it was a lot of other things hedid say with that too.
But to this, from taking fromthat, like you know, like it, it
takes a certain type of brotherto be a leader you know what
I'm saying and to understandwhat a leadership role is.
And if you have a brotherthat's in that leadership role,
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why wouldn't you want to followafter?
It ain't like he's going totell you how to leave your house
, or do you know what I'm saying?
No, we just I'm trying to leadyou to the, to the promised land
, my nigga.
Like you know, I'm saying typestuff, but I get it.
It can get frustrating.
I have.
I felt the same way too aboutyou know, my record label and
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everything.
But you know it.
You just keep pushing, keeppushing and you deal with the
people that deal with you andyou know you build, you build
with who's gonna build with you,you know yeah praise is like
you know, it's, it's what's upI'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Give me one moment, let me grab my charger.
Okay, give me one moment.
My apologies, I love you.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Shake like something violent to your cochlea
(54:51):
transmits electric signals thatare silent to your heart, which
is your brain.
I need to digest, let thespirit interpretate and then
(55:14):
I'll do the rest.
And if your heart is nothearing, then I'll know.
So you won't live it.
So what will I do with it?
My hobby?
Speaker 2 (55:24):
and you said your husband, he does sprinkler
systems.
Yes, um, yeah, he doessprinkler systems.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yes, yeah, he does sprinkler systems.
What's the name?
Go ahead and give it a plug.
His company name is LivingWaters.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Fire Protection, that's what's up?
Living Waters, fire ProtectionY'all definitely, definitely.
If you need a sprinkler system,even if you don't just go write
a good review you know what I'msaying and give a good Google
review, y'all like even if youdidn't do business with him.
It's many ways to support,support.
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Do we have a Facebook or anysocial media pages?
Speaker 3 (56:11):
um, he does have social media but he's not active
on there, unfortunately.
But, um, yeah, he just if,usually, if a person, like, owns
a building of a business ofsome sort, um, fire protection
is mandatory in all states andhe does maintain it.
So, um, you know, if you own ashop or any sort of again, any
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sort of buildings, he doesmaintain the fire sprinkler
systems and in new buildings aswell as what he does.
So, yeah, I mean Praja, it'sbeen successful for about five
years now and, yeah, he's doingnothing but growing.
He works a lot and so you know.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Oh, praise you.
But you know, if you don't work, you don't eat.
You don't work, your familydon't eat, so you got to get out
there and get it.
And that's the beautiful thingthat the Most High has allowed
him to have his own business too.
A lot of us still have to workfor Joe White.
He's able to do something thatI know he loves.
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You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, you start a business witha trade that you got.
You gotta love it, you knowwhat.
I'm saying that's fire, man,that's fire.
So where do you do the?
Where do you?
What farmer's market do you beat usually?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
I this year I am at the Fairfield um farmer's market
, which is near hamilton.
It's about 30 to 30, 30 to 35minutes from downtown cincinnati
, um, but that's almost over.
So I think coming the nextspring or summer season I will
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be maybe at the NorthfieldFarmer's Market.
We'll see where the most hightakes me.
But yeah, fairfield Farmer'sMarket.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Fairfield.
That's right around the cornerfrom where I live, Okay, I
didn't know it was that close, Icould have been over there
buying you out, because Idefinitely want some of that
hibiscus.
You said hibiscus ain't reallygood for me, right?
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't suggest it Like you
drink it every day, you know.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
But once in a while it's fine.
Okay, because I got somehibiscus and I put it in my tea
area once in a while.
You have to mix it up rightwith something right to make it
taste.
You know just right.
But I haven't got thatconcoction right, so I just left
it alone.
I left the tub a little bitalone, but that's what's up.
(59:08):
I don't praise this.
I got left alone, but that'swhat's up.
All praises.
So how have you?
Have you done anything?
Do you make anything like that?
Specific to children.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
I am in the process of making some glycerite, which
is a concentrated medicine forchildren.
So essentially it's a tincture,because tinctures are made with
alcohol and so it's a tincture,but because it's glycerin, it's
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called glycerite and so, yeah,I'm in the process of making
that.
It's sitting in my cabinetright now.
You got to let it sit for someweeks and then you strain it out
.
So, regarding and it's themixture I'm making has mullein
and cloves in it, which isreally good for the respiratory,
(01:00:04):
such as like coughs and poos.
So, yeah, for children, that aswell, specifically like for
colds and medicines and whatnot,right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
That is dope, Like that's dope.
Like you make it a child'smedicine, children's medicine
yeah, because children shouldn'tbe consuming alcohol.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
You got to consider the children too that is dope.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Like I.
I didn't even think that youwas like.
I thought you was like.
I honestly thought you wasgoing to be like.
Well, you know I'm thinkingabout doing.
No, you already got this going.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I told you, I do this for my family.
I got to consider the babiestoo.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'm like, yeah, I already got that's already in.
My thing you got to let it sitfor a couple of weeks, it's
already there, though.
We got that's already in.
Uh, my thing you gotta let itsit for a couple weeks, it's
already there though.
We got that going right now,like but my children myself.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
They actually drink teas too, just with me like yeah
, they actually they'll actuallyaccept cups of tea a day.
I was like they enjoy tea,excuse me I said, you drink it a
lot.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
That's why, right like your lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
They just end up, you know, living the same lifestyle
as the parents.
So, yeah, they see us drinking,so they wanted to man must be
nice, I can't get.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I'm trying to bring some more in there when you
think he had drank more, butother than that, uh-uh.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I try to make it on the sweeter side, and so I'm
just like yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
That's what's up, man , that is wild.
So I don't even want to ask youany more questions about what
you're making.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
No, I think we got it down generally.
I don't know what's the newthing I'm going to get into.
I'm just, yeah, I'm just here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I kind of oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Okay, so I do want to get into winemaking, but my
husband, like I, rarely drink,my husband does notemaking, but
my husband, like I rarely drink,my husband does not drink.
So it's kind of like what's thepoint?
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
But for a moment there.
I was very interested inwinemaking.
Well, I mean, hey, wine is goodfor your heart, good for your
heart, your bloodstream too.
You know you can make someholistic wine.
And you know, flip, yeah, man,it'll be vegan, right, vegan,
because you know, a lot of wineain't vegan.
(01:03:01):
You know, it's something thatthey use inside of it that has
like pork or something like thatit's just unclean, so yeah, so
you definitely could get intothat.
I could see it being you know,because I drink wine, a lot of
(01:03:22):
us drink wine.
So, that's something to getinto, I was just like that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
We'll see.
We'll see if that flourishes,but otherwise you got any ideas.
I'm accepting ideas.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I'm accepting ideas.
I'm like man yeah.
I still want that.
I still want to smell thatjuice that you had, that you
said you was going to burp.
You probably done drunk.
It Y'all probably done drunk.
That was months ago.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
The ginger bug.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I want some of that.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
That's pretty much soda for real Carbonated drink.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
That's really just a carbonated drink, honestly, but
I haven't made that in a whileactually wow yeah so you got a
carbonation machine there too no, it's, no, it's, uh, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
It's not a machine, it's just literally ginger and
sugar and you let it ferment andthen you make a flavored drink
with it and you put it in apressurized bottle, let it sit
for a few days and it'scarbonated.
It literally opens up like sodaand oh, and it's also probiotic
(01:04:44):
too.
So it's actually good for you,so it's good for your gut health
.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
So and do you sell a lot of that, or do people know I
?
Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
don't, I don't, I don't sell that one.
I don't sell that one.
That is just for me and myfamily, because again.
Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I have to now think about like I think packaging is
like my biggest hurdle.
Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
It's like, okay, how am I going to package this?
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Especially with carbonated drinks.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
But I can teach you how to do it.
I'm always going to give youthe recipe.
I'll give you the recipe.
I'll tell you anybody how to doit, because if I can do it,
anybody else can do it right,all right, that's what's up.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Man, maybe you should .
You should do some tutorials,like on your, on a, on your
website.
You have a website no, I don'thave a website I can't ask you
yet, because I just really wantto go to the website.
Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
I'm not even gonna lie like I might have to make
one, but, um, I do do videos,like when I'm making certain
things.
I do do like short videos, stepby step, of like what it is I'm
doing and how I do it, just tocreate some type of transparency
between me and a potentialcustomer, right?
Um, it's just a matter ofposting it.
(01:06:07):
It's just a matter of postingit and making it look digestible
right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I was trying to look for her page like for real
on facebook, but I haven't beenactive.
Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
In a couple months I haven't been active.
I just had to take a quicksocial media break, but I'll be
back soon.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, well, I wanted to look at some of these, like
some of the shorts that she wasdoing, because they were very
informative, but I got like fourpages.
Y'all Don't don't we listen,but we don't judge right.
So I got four pages.
(01:06:49):
I'm not a troll.
I am a troll, but I'm not atroll.
I don't have her on one of mypages.
That's connected to my laptop.
I really wanted to watch acouple videos.
For those that don't know her, Ihave her as a friend on
Facebook just to see some of thethings that she's doing, just
(01:07:13):
some of the informatives she has.
She talked about your diaphragmone time and she talked about
things for women.
She's really informative aboutthat stuff.
A lot of the stuff that she betalking about, like I just have
to like I scroll, I scroll up onit and be like, oh, let me see
(01:07:35):
what she talking about and it isgeared towards it's not like
gender, like gender, like, oh,it's just for women, it's like
neutral.
So she talks about a little bitof and the things that she does
say it's like man, I can dothat and she gives it to you in
the easiest form.
You know some people, some ofthese holistic gurus.
(01:07:56):
You're like man.
You got to do this and this andthis and that, and you got to
take seven drops of this and 24drops of that, and you're like
man.
Why, bro, like bro, you lost meat the first ingredient, my
nigga.
That's right, sister, tell youreal easy.
She show you how to do it andshe's doing it.
She did one video I remember itwas a tutorial and I'm like,
(01:08:18):
hey, man, I'm about to go inhere and cook this, but I forgot
that I didn't have none of thisshit that she was talking about
.
But the video was soinformative y'all Like for real,
it had real Y'all a holisticbuff like me, man, you go enjoy
her content.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Thank you, I gotta get into more posting.
I gotta get into more posting.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I get it.
It can get exhausting at timesbecause Black folks is
exhausting.
You could be posting somethingon Facebook and then scroll and
see something and you be likefor real, like I'm just about to
throw my whole phone away.
I'm tired of Facebook.
So, yeah, I get it, I get it.
(01:09:01):
It be hard, you know, I get it.
So you said that you don't knowwhat's the next thing you're
getting into.
But so I'm just going to askyou.
I'm just going to ask you Doyou do like any kind of like
(01:09:22):
desserts or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Of course, like I'm a cooker, I'm in the kitchen,
yeah, but I make muffins.
I make uh, what's it called?
I don't.
I don't know if I call this adessert, but souffles.
My kids love that, for likeyou'd be.
Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
You'd be firing them up on the top too, with the,
with the uh, with the, with thelittle blowtorch.
You know you make the soufflewith the little blowtorch.
You know you make the soufflewith the little no.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
I don't use the blowtorch no, not that.
But yeah, I think for the mostpart my Pop-Tarts.
I haven't made that in a while,but my husband loves Pop-Tarts
so I try to make the healthyversion, the homemade version.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I should say she did say she made them last.
She said she made healthyPop-Tarts.
I'm like are you selling those?
But unfortunately for us, thoseare not an item that she's
selling to.
I don't know why she's tellingus about stuff she ain't selling
us.
Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Those are perishable.
I make a lot of bread.
My children love bread.
Yeah, For the most part muffinsor cupcakes.
Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Do you prefer bacon over cooking sometimes?
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I like them equally, both equally.
Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Yeah, it really just depends, but I of course cook
more than I bake, but yeah,Right, right, I get that Because
baking, like once I feel likeat least with cooking if you
mess up you can easily fix it,but with baking if you mess up a
little, easily fix it.
But with baking if you mess upa little bit then you probably
(01:11:12):
mess up the whole thing thewhole thing, just throw the
whole thing away I hate wastingingredients.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I hate wasting ingredients yeah, especially
with muffins, man, muffins arethe one thing.
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
It's like, man, you don't get it right no, truly, I
think muffins are pretty easy tofollow.
At least, the recipe I came upwith is pretty easy.
I think my biggest challengenow is like perfecting the
perfect sourdough.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Sourdough has been a challenge for me, especially
starting, at least but, that's achallenge because it's like a
24-hour situation right, that'swhat I was about to ask you like
how long do you let it, let thedough sit for?
Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
it's literally all day.
You won't get to bake it to thenight time.
Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
This is a lot but living you learn you live and
you learn well, you know you,like you said, you had a time,
and all praise for the most highthat you are able to.
You know what I'm saying hadhis time to learn and experience
and perfect your craft.
I wish I had the time.
(01:12:20):
You know, I would definitely bein the kitchen more and doing
more things holistically, buthad to work.
Excuse me y'all, sorry,apologies, but yeah, it's
definitely a.
It's definitely a.
You're definitely giving aservice to the community and
(01:12:45):
definitely being a big helpBecause, like I said, you know,
once you get the stuff that youwant, to the prototypes.
Because, see y'all, like I said, she keep on the good stuff for
herself and I'm really startingto feel some type of way about
that.
You know we're not even goingto talk about that how angry I
(01:13:08):
am with her right now.
Not angry be slow to anger, butyeah, no, it's, it's the stuff
that she does give.
Y'all, y'all go and and andsell, and buy her out and get
everything that she has andsupport and, uh, support her
husband too.
Too, you know they both aredoing it.
Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
And I will say that I have to do a better job with
reaching out to my people andbeing more open per se.
And again I guess it goes backto, like you know, just showing
my face and knowing that I amyou, I am letting people see me
and who I am, and I think thatkind of clashes with my
(01:13:56):
personality because I really Ilike to be low key, but if you
want to be, if you want to sellyour stuff, you got to be.
You know where the people areat.
so I just have to find a balancebetween those two Definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
But that's on me.
Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
I don't need anybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
You don't want to be too too.
You know too out on the socialmedia and the social public.
I get it and you and then youwant to be, so you can your
business and your brand can grow.
So it's a healthy medium.
You got to find that, Iunderstand.
But yeah, y'all, this is yourboy, abiy, at the Spit the Truth
(01:14:38):
Podcast and we're with SisterYC and she is definitely the
business Y'all go in and support.
I can't stress that enough, man, man, because we don't support
each other enough and we wealready touched on that but and
we don't have to talk about itagain but y'all just know that.
(01:15:00):
You know the sister is, is, is,is giving y'all service and she
don't have to do it for y'all,she don don't have to, like you
know, but the most high put iton her heart to do it for her
family and she extends that sameblessing.
You know, that's one thing thatKing David was good for.
He always used to say you know,bless me so I can.
(01:15:23):
The blessings that you bless mewill extend to my brother.
You know, I think it was KingSolomon or King David that said
that.
And that's what you're doing.
You're blessing everybody elsebecause the blessings that you
have given each other.
Well, you have been given, soI'll praise to the most high
sisters.
Is there anything else you wantto tell the people?
This is the time to let themknow your links, your website,
(01:15:47):
all that good stuff where theycan find your products, where
they can find your products,where they can find you at and
come and buy you out.
And you know just your lastlittle inspirational word.
I know you got one um, myfacebook.
Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
I'm on facebook.
Um, it's lc.
The letter is lc israel, withthe y in the start of it.
Um, ultimately, take care of,take care of yourself, take care
of yourself.
You got one body.
You got one life.
Just take care of it the bestyou can.
And, yeah, hallelujah.
Thank you, guys for listeningand support.
(01:16:23):
You're welcome to reach out tome.
I'm not, I don't bite.
I hope I'm not scary.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
But yeah, I'm crazy, know y'all, if y'all don't
support, uh, y'all go see thisface and I'm gonna be like you,
uh, you a hater.
I'm just gonna tell you rightnow, like because we, we got it.
I can't stress it enough, y'allcan't stress it enough.
The sister is veryknowledgeable and she's only
getting better as she learns,more and more innovative with
(01:16:56):
the things that she's creatingwith her hands, like she has
baby medicine, y'all.
It's literally sitting in hercabinet right now play with her.
If y'all want, man, play withher.
If y'all want y'all, don't,play with y'all's children.
(01:17:17):
We know how to do too much.
We know how to do too much.
They're trying to get rid of usbecause they know, man, we can
heal ourselves.
We don't need they medicine.
You know.
I saying, as long as we gotsisters like Sister LC, what do
we need the medicine for?
I go get on her page and go buyeverything I need and be good
(01:17:39):
the next week Practice.
So, hey, at the end of the day,y'all get up.
Y'all get up and support this.
Your boy Abiyah signing off Spit, your true podcast.
Man, we love y'all, me andsister LC.
We just chopped it up and shejust gave y'all some more jewels
(01:17:59):
.
Definitely, man, go buy herstuff.
Man, go do the best that y'allcan.
Like.
Y'all Hebrews always like tosay we got to do the best we can
, so do the best y'all can andget down and buy her stuff Best
y'all can with that.
You know what I'm saying.
All praises to the Most High.
Y'all, sister, we love you, weappreciate you getting on the
show with us.
We're going to have to do apart three and this is the part
(01:18:22):
three.
I'm going to ask them somecompromising questions, because
I like controversy.
I like controversy, but youknow what?
Yeah, I'm messy as hell.
I'm messy, but all praises tothe Most High Sister.
We love you, we appreciate you.
May the Most High bless you andyour family and keep y'all
going, keep y'all successful,keep y'all happy and healthy All
(01:18:44):
praises to the.
Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Most High.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Shalom, Sister Shalom .
Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Praise God, shalom, shalom, shalom.
Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Shalom, thank you.
find the love, feeling like dory finding nemo.
I've been looking, I've beensearching.
It's supposed to be here and Iknow it when I see it because I
can feel it in the air.
But this ain't it.
No, this don't even feel right.
I've been unplugged from thematrix.
I can finally see right.
I'm eliminating the sheeple.
I need more fierce than neo,the camson of the word for
(00:20):
church that's holding all thefetal.
He said you don't need theircollege.
I'm trying to feed youknowledge, if you have the ear
to hear it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
All praises to the most high.
What's going on?
Y'all, y'all know how it is.
Man, it's another.
I was about to mess it up again.
Y'all my bad, don't even Don'tmind me, it's been a long one.
We got another one with SisterLC, and this is part two.
(00:48):
Let me bring us up on thescreen.
My bad, y'all my bad.
This is part two.
Part two, and we spitting ourtruth.
Definitely, man, I'm real bigon holistic medicine and stuff
like that, and Sister is aholistic practitioner, a
(01:10):
certified holistic practitioner.
Let me get it right, becauseshe corrected me the last time
Like bro, no, this is what it is, and I'm like, okay, like my
bad for messing it up.
So she is a Certified holisticpractitioner and the sister has
so many products and just thingsshe's doing.
(01:32):
I'm going to let her just Goahead and reintegrate, you know,
and introduce herself, becauseDefinitely she's a Dope sister
and she's doing a lot of thingsIn the community.
So I'm going to let her goahead and do her thing.
I'll praise this.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Praise y'all.
My name is Elsie Israel.
I am a certified holisticpractitioner.
As he said, I'm just in a phaseof learning on how to provide
for my family in a healthymanner and depending less on the
outer world.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So yeah, and how long have you been doing this again?
We'll just go integrate some ofthe last questions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Regarding herbalism for about three years now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, three years, that's what's up.
And you say that you wanted tolearn how to work with your
hands and to provide for yourfamily.
That's value and that's realrights for you to uh to be on
that, that path and that mode.
You know, and I'm sure yourfamily and your husband enjoys
all the things that you do,because I know that with
(02:47):
holistic medicine and holisticpractice becomes a healthier
life and you know, your skin isvibrant.
Look at her skin y'all, it'sjust real vibrant.
I mean, you know, come on,y'all, y'all got to really
understand that holistic healthis like a big thing that we
should be practicing.
And for those that that dopractice it and know it, we
(03:09):
should, we should really supportthem and uh buy their stuff,
you know.
So where where does you saythat you had most of your, your
product set right?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I currently have my product on etsy shop.
However, it's not updated.
I will update it in a couple ofweeks or so, but you're welcome
to directly reach out to me andlet me know like, hey, I want
this shipped to me and I canmake that happen.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right, so what's one of your best sellers?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
so far it's going to be my teas, my teas, um.
I have different types of teablends for different purposes,
such as gut health, umpostpartum pregnancy, um men's
wellness tea, women's wellness T, menstrual cycle T I think that
sums it up for the most partand, oh, lung T.
I also do accommodate tocustomization of any blends.
(04:15):
Like hey, I got this going on,I got a respiratory situation
going on, I'll make a blend foryou too.
So I do accommodate to customblends.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So are the custom blends extra Like?
Do you have to pay an extracharge for that?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
No, they're not.
Each bag is about 45 grams,which can make about 32 cups of
teas.
And again, they're all organicherbs.
I have grown some of themmyself, and so the source
matters as well.
It's also some of the herbsthat I do have are also locally
(04:54):
grown as well here in Ohio.
Yeah, integrity matters to me,so it's not just, you know, just
collecting it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'll pray for I and and it should, because you know
when, when you're dealing withholistic medicine, you
definitely have to have a goodreputation and you know and walk
with a rightness, because youcould really hurt somebody and,
uh, you know and and misdiagnosesomebody and they'd be all bad.
(05:24):
But um, so you said that they,they're.
So what would be the best wayto steep tea, like what would be
from from tea bag to actual tea?
Like give us a step-by-step tomake the best tea to be that I
have the optimal result um, Ithink the best one would be like
(05:47):
um, what's it called frenchpress?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
like people who have a french press?
Um, there are multiple ways todo it.
Um, I don't think there'snecessarily a best, it really
just is up to personalpreference.
So, but the most common wouldeasier, I should say, for most
people, because sometimes peoplelike want the gadgets and
(06:09):
whatnot, but, um, just boiling acup of hot water and um,
putting the herbs into it, andthen after 10 to 15 minutes you
strain the herbs out of it, youadd any type of sweetener or no
sweetener, depending on what you, how you prefer your teas, and
yeah, you're good to go okay,okay.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So how long should you steep the tea?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
for about 10 to 15 minutes.
However, you can't do that withall herbs.
Like certain herbs you can'tlike, example, marshmallow root.
It's best to get themadditional benefits.
You have to steep it in roomtemp for about 24 hours, or 12
(06:57):
to 24 hours, instead of hotwater, because then you're
essentially burning the herbs.
So you have to be knowledgeableon which herbs can benefit you,
based off of the temperature ofthe water.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Essentially, Right, I never known that I have
marshmallow food too.
I never known that you'resupposed to sleep at room
temperature.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So you learn something new every day, right?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
so which other one would like?
Just off of the top of yourhead, which other one is?
Is something similar to thesteeping method, like that?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
um, any type of bark, like any type of bark, you
gotta let it steep for a littlelonger than the example like the
flower, such as like calendulaand whatnot.
So, um, barks just need alittle more time to steep, and
barks are also on the bitterside as well, so you need a
(07:57):
little more time for that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That is interesting.
Never known that.
So how long did it teach you,how long did it take you to
really like memorize a lot ofdifferent like herbs and methods
on how to?
Was it the whole three years orwas it just, you know, a short
amount of time because ofrepetition or Let me preface by
(08:25):
saying I don't know everything.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I am still learning, I'm still in this industry, um,
but when it comes to how longI've learned this, I think it's
just a matter of experience.
As I go like, okay, today I'mfeeling like this what can I do
to help this beyond right?
(08:48):
And so you do your research,you open up your books and
you're like okay, this, this iswhat, this is what's good for
this and this is what's not goodfor this.
You know.
So it's a it's a go as youlearn, as you go type situation.
You don't learn everything inone day gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So what's your favorite thing to make, like
your favorite healthy thing tomake, juice regarding peas, oh,
food or anything, yeah, anything, period gosh, that's such a big
question okay, so let me makeit more blanketed then.
So what's your favorite tea?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
first, let's do that my favorite tea blend, or just
like one type of herb your teablend that you like that you
personally drink the mostsomething neutral drink, the
most you know.
Something neutral would bedandelion root and a nettle leaf
(09:54):
and the other one.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Why do you call it neutral?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Because it kind of covers, it has a wide range of
benefits, okay, and so, um, justthose those two specific herbs
that I, off the top of my dome,um kind of has hits all the
check marks for you know,magnesium, iron and protein, all
(10:23):
the vitamins, and, like I saidit, it protein, all the vitamins
, and, like I said, it justchecks all the boxes and it's
not bitter, right.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I hear a lot of people talk about that bitter
fruit, the little green bitterfruit thing, that you can take
it and it helps to cure cancerand a lot of other things.
What is your take on it?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
What is it called?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
It's like a little bitter fruit.
Hold on, that's what it'scalled bitter fruit or bitter
herb.
It's like a little green.
It looks like a jalapeno withchicken pox or something like
that.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm not sure if I've heard of that.
Um, I do know about bitter leaf, but it's a leaf.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm not sure if it's a fruit yeah, hold on, let me
see, because I was looking at itthe other day and a lot of
people was talking about itbitter melon, that's what it's
called okay, what do I think ofit?
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I mean, if it's, if it works, it works right and
also too.
Just because it works for thisperson doesn't mean it's going
to work for you too.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know I'm sorry, one more time.
No, I said I ain't mean to cutyou out, but I remember you was
telling us about that on thelast time that you know, just
because it works for some people, it doesn't work for you.
You know Right that.
You know just because it worksfor some people it doesn't work
for you, you know right.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So, yeah, you one has to be careful about what
they're consuming, because itmay apply to somebody else and
not apply to you too.
But again, if it works for you,you know, go ahead and run with
it right, right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So what would you say is the best, best way to to
like, get the best uses out ofit?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Out of what exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The bitter melon.
Have you ever had to deal withit before?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I honestly have not dealt with it myself, so I can't
much speak on it.
Yeah, with lack of experience,I don't want to speak up or
misinform anyone right.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So what would be your ?
Your favorite food, like yourfavorite dish to cook like
breakfast, lunch or dinner?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
so lately I have been um craving my cultural food,
like onion food, and so I'vebeen cooking a lot of like
starchy and spicy foods, becausethat's common in my culture, so
yeah, starchy and spicy foodsyes so what was Once one dish
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you done cooked this week?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That was like, yeah, I think I might Cook this again
or I might put this in therepertoire.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I made some.
It's called light soup, okay,but it's basically just A tomato
based soup with um meat, withdifferent type of meat, such as
like um beef or sometimes goatmeat.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Some people feel fish different types of fish in
there, so yeah okay, oh, man,and that that sounds like it's
pretty good, especially withsome fish in it too, you know.
So, yeah, it's like stew fishor stew meat in a salad, uh,
soup, okay, what you eating withrice or what yes, so um, I let
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my kids eat it with rice.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But there are different types of carbs you can
eat it with, such as like I'mnot sure if you've heard of like
fufu you can eat it with fufu.
Or sometimes people just eat itwith rice.
My kids eat it with rice okay,I love fufu.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I don't cook it a lot , but I love it.
So what would be your favoritejuice?
Say that again your favoritejuice that you would uh like um
my favorite juice let me saythis okay and let me say this,
so your favorite juice.
Let me say this and let me saythis so your favorite juice that
you like to make, that would bethat's like the most beneficial
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to you know, like to to youknow your, your immune system,
that's just more, that's themost beneficial that you can
drink every day.
It won't be like I'm coincidingwith other things that I'm
doing.
I've learned, too, that withcertain things like if you drink
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a certain juice, you shouldn'tdrink a certain tea, you got to
space it out, just like medicine, like you know what I'm saying.
So what would you say?
It was to be the best.
And your favorite juice, thatcould be like, like you say,
neutral um, I think um hibiscus.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Hibiscus will be my go-to.
I do make juice for, orlemonades for, the farmer's
market and the top seller ishibiscus and soursop with
lemonade sweetened with canesugar.
And, regarding taste-wise,people prefer that and visually
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it is a burgundy color, sopeople are attracted to that.
However, personally I do likethe butterfly pea flower with
cinnamon and um butterfly peaflower is more of a um outer
(16:28):
beneficial um herb it helps withyour hair and your skin and
then um the cinnamon, inaddition to the cane flour, I
mean cane sugar, um adds adifferent type of sweetener and
benefits as well.
Also to you.
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I think it's not a juice butelderberry syrup.
I love making elderberry syrup,especially for my children,
just to minimize the sicknessand whatnot.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So what do you put in yours?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
For the elderberry, I put cloves, which is
antibacterial.
I put lemons, I put ginger andcinnamon.
And I have to boil for about anhour with the elderberries and
you add some honey.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I didn't know.
You boiled it for an hour.
When I made it, I put some ofthe same things that you put in
there, but I didn't boil it foran hour.
It's just the smell of theelderberries.
After a while it gets to you.
It's very strong.
I'll get this in the jar realquick, but I would know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I've never known that , though that's something new
every day, an hour yeah, yougotta cook it, cause that
ittleberry it's hard, it's ahard berry, so you gotta cook it
for a while for it to soften upand release all the benefits
yeah, and that's they.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I heard that you can't like that's something that
you can't really.
You can take every day, but youshould take small doses of it
so you won't like overdose itcan harm you.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, yeah, yes, you be careful.
Now, when you are really sick,you take like a teaspoon a day,
but yeah, that's definitely withcaution.
Take that with caution, forsure.
It's not juice, it's not juice.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah yeah, people can be making gummies and stuff.
I'm like man, that's tooenticing, you can't Right,
because elderberry actuallytastes good.
It actually tastes good, it'sjust like man, I agree.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I agree, it takes over the whole kitchen.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's funny, yeah it does like man, you gotta gotta
cook some fish or something likethat, I don't know, because it
it'd be horrible, but uh, sowhat?
What's your take on?
Uh, black seed oil, because Iheard a lot of people you know
talk about it wasn't good andthen it was.
It is good and it's like youknow you get mixed reactions
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when it makes uh you knowresponses and I'm just like,
well, what would be the best,you know?
Is it good for us or not?
What do you?
What is your take on it?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I've heard some great testimonies with black seed
oils and how it just clarifiesyour body of illnesses.
I myself I don't have the oil,but I do have the actual seeds
and I will put like a few in mytea bag when I'm making um.
That too, I feel like it needsto be treated like elderberry,
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where you gotta cook it for awhile to really gain the
medicinal benefits off of it,because again it is like a hard,
a hard seed, but um, again, ifit works for you, you know who's
to say otherwise.
Right If you are indefinitelyseeing the benefits of it.
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Why not?
But again, I've heard more goodthan bad when it comes to
especially the oil.
Right, right, and make surethat it's like your source is
reputable, because a lot ofpeople just sell anything these
days.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to put it in my tea.
Okay, I have a bird type of teawith some ashwagandha and I
will put like a drop in it,because that stuff is super
wrong.
I will put a drop in it with alittle bit of lemon and it'll
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keep me warm and feeling goodall through the morning until it
was gone.
But it was nice though.
Black seed oil is one of thosethose uh things like you said.
Uh, elderberry, you know yougotta cook it.
You should cook it long and youshould not take a lot of it,
even like you should definitelynot take a lot of it because you
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I've heard people overdose onit yeah, too much of a good
thing is not good.
You gotta yeah, there's gotta besome balance right, so what's
the new project you're workingon?
You got anything.
Any any kind of new projectsyou're working on?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
um, like I said earlier, I have been working on
soaps, like bar soaps, as wellas um liquid soaps.
Um, just today actually, I mademy first bottle of all-purpose
soap from castile soap and thiscleaner my excuse me,
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all-purpose cleaner from thecastile soap, and I made another
batch.
I made another batch of my dishsoap from the Castile soap, so
I'm just trying to perfect thatformula and you know, I don't
remember the last time I boughtdish soap.
So my praise, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
She's making dish soap y'all.
The last time you was makingdeodorant, last time we it was.
You was making what deodorantLast time we talked, or
something she said she wasmaking deodorant.
I'm like man.
Is there anything that youcan't make, like you know?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
And I'm still learning.
I don't know everything, but Iam still learning.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I get that, but I definitely get that.
But it's a definite joy to seelike your page and see all the
things that you're doing.
There's all the stuff thatyou're coming up with, and it's
like this stuff ain't nothingthat anybody else can't do, it's
just you just put your hands todo it and your hands and your
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heart to do it and make ithappen.
And they'd be like like, yeah,where's her?
Uh, just take my money likethat once.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to add to that um laundry
soap non-toxic laundry soap toojust take my money that's funny
, but yeah, I'm just justlearning.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I get it.
I get it, but, like a lot of usdon't know, like cause a lot of
us, you know, we still try togo to you know these stores and
buy, you know, like clean soapand clean detergent and it don't
be clean, like we just foundout the 17th generation is crap
and you know all this otherstuff, and it's like wow, it
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don't be clean, we just foundout the 7th generation is crap
and all this other stuff.
It's like wow, can't win.
Yeah, when we have a system.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It goes back to what we talked about last time is
convenience.
I don't fault people becausepeople don't have the time to do
these stuff.
I have the time, but youraverage person doesn't have the
time.
I don't fault people becausepeople don't have the time to do
these stuff.
I have the time, but youraverage person doesn't have the
time.
So I don't fault people for not, you know, doing what I do or
going to the extent of doingresearch, because I understand
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that people don't have timeright, okay, all right, but so
that's why we got sisters andbrothers like you.
Yeah, that's why you got me.
I'll do the work for you.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So I'm looking into the camera.
Y'all better go buy her stuffIf you don't support.
You know what I'm going to say.
Y'all, you a hater, you a hater, I'm telling you right now.
Because sister got got a lot ofstuff going on and you know it's
like I say I can't keep.
You know, reintegrating that.
It's a beautiful thing to see,you know, sister moving in the
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way that you're moving in and,you know, just doing it for the
community and doing it fory'all's people, so that's a good
thing and a lot of peopleshould support you.
I don't know why you said you'dbe selling out.
So you get a lot of support.
And, brothers and sisters, ify'all in the Cincinnati area,
you know, go to the farmer'smarket where she at, and you
know, buy her out, sell her out,like you know, because she's
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going to come back next Sundaywith more shit you know what I'm
saying and more stuff.
So definitely know what I'msaying.
And then more stuff, sodefinitely.
But uh, when you said you wasmaking your own deodorant, I'm
like, yeah, I, where's her?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
website.
That's mainly specifically that, because I know people, like
majority of the population, arelike natural deodorant that's
just gonna make you stink more.
Which, um?
Yes, when, when you startdetoxing your body, yes, you
will experience the stink.
But, once your body adapts andyou detox your body, your body
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adapts.
So I have yet to hear acomplaint, especially from my
husband, because he will speakhis mind.
But I've been doing it for afew years now and that's mainly
based off of personal request,because there's out of
everything I make when, if Iwere to turn it a transactional
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child, it's gonna beoverwhelming.
So most of the things I make isbased off of request, because
then I have to think aboutlabels and packaging and it can
be overwhelming, right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, you, just one person, so grow, essentially
because it is such a bigresponsibility.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, but you know, with the ass timing, I think
everything will work out in theway that it should.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, it should definitely Do you.
You said that you, so let'stouch on that, that whole scare
thing, because I think that thatpeople, when you have a dream,
and it's the dreams, it scaresyou, it's your dream, it's for
you, you know, it's just that itthings that we want and want to
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accomplish, they shouldn't,they shouldn't be small and they
shouldn't not scare us, you'reright.
The steps to get there is, likeyou know, we are scared of the
steps that it's going to take,because sometimes, when you walk
up steps, your thighs beburning.
You walk up too many of them.
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So I think that's what we'rescared of is our thighs burning.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's very true.
That's very true From myperspective.
I don't want to invest inlabels and containers and all
the equipment and ingredients itrequires and labels and
containers and all the equipmentand ingredients it requires to
make this thing and I sellnothing, because then that's a
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waste of money.
Essentially, granted, I'm goingto use it eventually, I'm going
to drink my teas, I'm going touse my soaps, but it's just a
matter of wasting time andenergy when it's not going to be
fruitful.
You know, everybody wants tosucceed, nobody wants to fail,
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and I think the scaredness isfailure.
But nothing beats a try but afailure.
So you know, you just got totry it and I think I'm just
trying to take baby steps.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's part of part.
Part of success is failure, youknow yes, Because you wouldn't
know how to get to the bag ifyou didn't fail.
You know what?
I'm saying If you did, you'llhate it, but I, you know, I.
I think that you know what youdoing, doing like the most high
said, in all his, in all yourways, you know you keep him
first.
I think that what you're doingis just that you know when you,
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when you, when you do a servicefor his people, you service in
here.
You know you helping his peopleto live a better and more
righteous, cleaner life.
You know you helping them tokeep to that law and keep to
that Torah.
Yeah, I think he'll definitelyhelp you and show you that grace
because you're not doingnothing.
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That's not detrimental.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, like, yeah, you have adetrimental cost.
It's like the calling that youhave and the gifts that he has
given you are not for nothing.
You are a healer, you know, andit's not a lot of people in our
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nation that have that healingability, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Well, when you put it that way, yeah, yeah, you know
what I'm saying.
When you put it that way, youmake a good point, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You got to think of it like that, because the Most
High is definitely he says, likehe says, I wake my servants up
early and send them out to thenation.
You know and I'm not to saythat you up early in the morning
every day, but early as far aslike in the mindset you know
what I'm saying Like having thatmindset that hey, yeah, I got
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to get this done because notonly am I servicing my family
but I'm servicing my people, youknow, y'all's people.
So, yeah, you doing a damnthing, and I appreciate that.
Yeah, that yeah, definitelyhats off to you.
I uh, like I said, I'm real bigon holistic medicine.
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I'm real big on it I got, uh,books and stuff like that.
I don't read them as much as Iused to, but I definitely like
dibble and dabble and I'm I tryto make sure that, um, that I
ingest, you know, something fromthe earth at least once a day,
if not twice.
You know I'm saying, and that'swhat a lot of people need to do
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is, like, you know, putsomething in it that that's from
mother earth in your body.
You know, like it ain't, likeit's I go, it's gonna do
something to you, you know.
So, yeah, definitely, so it'syou.
You're something to you.
So, yeah, definitely.
So it's you doing your thing.
And you know, I know, that themost high is because I see it.
You can see the most highesttouch and glow on certain people
(31:41):
.
You know what I'm saying.
You can, yeah, you see it andpeople see it on you.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
People see it on you.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh, yeah, all praises .
And I, I know that, uh, I knowyour husband's happy about it
and he and you know, because our, our reputations are our wife,
because the first thing when Iwant to want to, when somebody
talks about your husband, thefirst thing, yeah, his wife,
yeah, his wife was out heredoing it.
That's his reputation.
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So you know you're doing him aservice and you're doing the
most high service all praises.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
So I definitely needed that I needed that
motivation because you know,sometimes you do get, I do get
doubtful because I'm like youknow what am I doing?
I'm just here, but um, yeah,thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I agree, that's definitely something to um
deeply meditate on and greatlyconsider, so appreciate that
yeah, I ain't trying to push youinto, you know, a future, a
fortune 500 company right now,but you know, just to let you
know, that that is brothers likebrothers and it's people like
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me, your family, that thatappreciates what you're doing
yeah we appreciate what you'redoing yeah and definitely will
support.
You know I'm saying we'llsupport, right you know?
Yeah, I guess I'm just tryingto get into the phase of
perfecting what I'm saying willsupport, right you?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
know, yeah, I guess I'm just trying to get into the
phase of perfecting what I havebefore I introduce it to
everyone else, right?
So it's like I don't want tojust put out any and everything
just because I said I made itfor the first time.
I want to perfect this thingand then introduce it, you know,
because it goes back tointegrity and yeah, ultimately
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that's what it boils down to.
And again, I'm still learningbecause there's more than one
way to skin the cat.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Right, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
But then it's like when do you gauge when things
are perfect?
It's just a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's why you got your husband.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
And, hubby, you're going to have to be the lab rat.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
bro, You're going to have to be the lab rat and help
her get it right.
Yeah, help her get it right soshe can push it to the community
.
Man, like he's got to take thatL, like that's what he's there
for, you know, to help you behealthy, and I'm sure he does,
because I see it on your page.
You know what I'm saying, yourpage and everything how you know
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y'all just such a loving familyand that's a good thing too.
You know that you have a lovingfamily and you have that
support, you know, becausewithout the support it'd be hard
.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I agree.
I agree, I'm definitelygrateful for what I have for
sure.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Right, all praises, all praises.
So I definitely, like I said,I'm looking forward to the next
thing.
You know what you coming upwith next.
Do you do topicals and stufflike that and aerosols?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And what sauce.
And aerosols sauce like spraysum, I do do hair sprays.
Um, I have hair sprays thatalign with my hair oils that I
make as well.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So, yeah, yeah if y'all ain't on her page buying
everything she got y'all but Ithat's the thing I don't post
everything I make.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't post everything I make.
I get it, I get it Again.
I'm just trying to perfect itbehind the closed doors and then
if I post it, that means I gotit down right.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But just to know that that's what you're working on.
In the background is hairspray,natural, holistic hairspray
y'all.
Where have y'all heard that atlike who's doing that?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
but that's not but the scripture says there's
nothing new under the sun, right, right.
And so every somewhere on thisplanet, somebody has done
something that I'm looking tolearn about or I'm looking to
explore I it, and that's why Itry not to be boastful, because
somebody out there has probablydone it 10 times better than I
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have.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Well, hey, let others boast on you, let other people
give you your flowers.
See, I'm real big on givingpeople flowers where they can
smell them, because not a lot ofpeople like not a lot of our
people, and it sucks that.
You know, our people are not asclose-knit as we supposed to be
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.
It's not as supportive andunified as we supposed to be.
So it's it.
You know, we, we only hear, andthat's.
We have close friends.
That's in the truth.
But we only get to smell ourflowers, like you know, at least
once a week, and that's on theSabbath day, and that shouldn't
be cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, it's cool, but itshould be more than that.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I have always had that stance.
There is no reason why weshould not be gathering outside
of the Shabbat day.
The Shabbat day is mandatory,but outside of that, by choice,
we should be linking up a lotmore than we do, and so I'm with
you on that.
Take for sure, yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I definitely feel that it should be more of a
community.
You know, we that's how wecheck each other, that's how we
learn from each other, that'show we build.
You know, and that's what toriis is checking each other,
loving each other and buildingwith each other you know, I
think people are just sohesitant, are just hesitant to
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trust each other.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Everybody knows everything.
Every man is writing in his owneyes, right, and so it is very
saddening when I think about itas a whole, because, as much as
we know, we're the IsraeliteHebrew community.
We lack From the depths of it,in my opinion, we lack true
community, and it's sad to meand it's sad to me, but
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hopefully one of these days wecan figure it out.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
So why do you feel other than the lack of trust?
What else do you feel isplaying a role in it too?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
you feel is playing a role in it too?
I think it's the um, becauseamerica as a whole is based off
of individualism, like every manfor themselves, and so we, as
hebrews, have adopted thatmindset as well.
Right, it's just me and mine.
I'm worried about myself, right, and so, um, unfortunately,
only the most high can fix this.
You know how?
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How long have people been inthis community and um haven't
had a bad relationship with thenext hebrew?
You know, I don't know.
It's just, it's unfortunate tome when I think about it as a
whole, but I don't have theanswers.
I'm just a baby in here.
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I'm just a baby in the bunch.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Right, right.
But you know what?
There are classes that areIsraelites that are moving and
uniting in certain fashions, incertain manners and you know I
can't speak for you know thevast majority of Israelites, but
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I know some camps andcongregations are trying to
unify.
The camp that you go to, theclass that you go to, they do a.
I remember they was like one ofthe first classes to do like a
feed in the poor circuit whenthey was going around in
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different cities and stuff likethat and you know, just feeding
the poor.
And they still do it on everySunday and that was one thing
that I always admired about thatclass, because they got out
there in the streets and theyjust was on the internet behind
safety, they was out there inthe trenches and they was
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getting things done.
That was one thing that I couldappreciate and admire about the
brothers and sisters that classbut the thing is, other other
classes don't join.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
That's the unfortunate part.
That's the community base,that's the coming together.
You know, this is for a greatercause.
It was just last week we didlike a school drive where we had
backpacks, books, children'stoys, children's clothing and
food and, um, it goes back to,as far as I'm concerned.
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I know the lady who sends outthe text messages, the
announcements.
She lets, she informs otherclasses.
Hey, this is what we're doingat this time at this location
and people still don't show up.
I understand, people have workon the first day, but one person
you know, yeah, that's what Imean by.
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There's a great division, forsure, and I hate that.
I hate that for us, I really doright.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, that is ugly, because it can be a lot better
and we can be a lot better andwe can definitely move in a
better way.
Like I didn't know that theywere actually like giving out
Wow, and see that speaks to youknow.
Wow, and see that speaks to youknow.
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Wow, I don't even know what tosay about that.
That's deep.
Like that's deep, yeah, becausethe thing of it is is that we
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were called to come together.
We were called to come togetherand be as a righteous nation
and to help each other andothers.
You know, and that's law.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You can't say that you are a Torah keeper and we're
not even doing the basics Right, and that's why we're here in
the first place.
That's why God is here in thefirst place.
And how many hundreds of yearslater, we still haven't figured
it out.
It's very discouraging, I mustsay, because at some point you
(42:27):
do end up giving up, because whowants to constantly get
rejected?
Come together, come together,come together.
Okay, at some point I'm gonnagive up, right, because now my
spirits are down, right.
But um, hopefully we figure itout, hopefully yahweh, can, can,
will bring us together Soonerthan later.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
See, this is a conviction, but you know, cause
and this is Abiyah Speaking youknow the sister said how she
felt, and you know.
But I'ma say what I feel, causethis is the truth and that's
what I do.
But I've Always talked that.
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I've always talked about, eventhough I have, like you know,
had my my fair share of uh, upsand downs with brothers and
sisters in the city.
You know it, I've always beenabout unity, I've always been
about coming, I've always beenabout coming together, I've
always been about doingsomething extra or more than
just a Sabbath class, and that'swhy I say I admire the brothers
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and sisters down there becausethey were doing it.
They were doing stuff.
One thing that I don't likeabout some of these classes here
is that they talk about themessianics.
They talk about, you know, themessianicists, the messianic
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sect, the Christians, theMuslims, but all these factions
that they talk about have unityand uniformity at that.
You know what I'm saying.
And when, if you go, and If yougo, put your hands on a nation
of Islam, brother, it's gonna bea Thousand of them in Chocobac
Doe.
You know what I'm saying.
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They don't play games, theyhave gardens, they have
community gardens, they teachtheir children self defense.
They homeschool their children.
Their sisters know how to dothings.
Their brothers know how.
We don't even have a class.
Their sisters know how to dothings.
Their brothers know how.
We don't even have a class toteach our brothers how to hunt
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and fish and gather and all thatstuff like that.
But we want to talk about Torah, we want to talk about Bible
scriptures.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, we ain't got to talk.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
No, let's talk about it because it's actually very
frustrating because just a primeexample my husband runs his own
company.
He's an expert in firesprinklers and he started his
business and the initial thoughtwas let me start this business
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so my brothers can come workwith me and I can essentially
feed their family.
Right, this is a communitybased situation.
Oh my God, that's beautiful.
Right, this is bigger than justyou and, to be fair and to be
frank and honest, it's been sucha fail.
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And when I say the business isnot a fail because he's thriving
in the business, but regardingbrothers wanting to learn and be
able to feed their familiesthrough another brother and grow
with the brother and grow witha brother something that's
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generational nobody's showing up.
Nobody's showing up.
But now you want to complainthat you have no money when you
could help your brother buildhis business so he can help you
feed your family.
But you don't want to work, youjust want handouts.
You want to get paid $40 anhour over something that you
don't even know, and it's sofrom a wife standpoint, from the
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outsider looking, it's likepeople are not willing to do the
work.
They want the easy way out.
And then you complain about nothaving money because the system
, because the system, because awhite man is a white man.
But when do you look in themirror and say, ok, it begins
with me and it stops with me.
And I think we just fail tohave accountability, sometimes
(46:41):
because we want to blame.
Then, when you have, whenyou're pointing one I've always
said this when you're pointing afinger, you always have three
coming back at you.
I've always said this whenyou're pointing a finger, you
always have three coming back atyou and to me again, I just,
it's just.
We need to start doing more.
Although my particular class atKemperling, we do feed the poor
most first days of the week, wecan do more, right.
(47:07):
We can do more.
We can do more right, we can domore.
We can have more gatheringsregarding, you know, helping
each other overall in whateversector we need, but with the
whole of the community, there isa lack of trust with one
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another is what I have noticed.
But yeah, I'm only one person,joel.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
But this is the thing right, and you know we can't
even use like the lack of trust,because the most high told us
not to trust man.
He told us not to trust eachother.
He said trust me, don't putyour trust in your brother you,
because he's gonna fail you.
He's gonna fail you, butbelieve that the brothers gonna
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do right by you leave.
Believing and trusting is twodifferent things, you're right,
you know so.
When, when I believe thatyou're gonna be right with me,
it's a, it's an area of gray inthere, you know I'm saying, yeah
, that where that trust wassupposed to have been, but it's
not there, because I put my allmy trust in the most fact.
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So, but I believe that you'regoing to be right with me.
What I've, what I'veexperienced just is that it's
because it wasn't their idea,it's because they didn't come up
with it first that's fine,though, like, that's okay, as
long as it's, as long as it'syour brother.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
You know my husband, you go out to these jobs and
you're wearing mingled uniform.
My husband, 100 caught inuniform.
It's about unity, you know, andhe's willing to work with your
schedule.
You know you want to come in atthis time.
You don't want to workfull-time, you can work
part-time, and it's like thelack of support and the lack of
(49:00):
yeah, ultimately the lack ofsupport is, um, it's, it's.
It's so bizarre to me becauseif I'm eating, you're eating too
, and that should be thementality.
Why are we depending on JohnSmith to feed us?
We shouldn't be, and nobody'swilling to grow from the root.
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Well, I could talk about this.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I get it.
I totally understand where youcoming from about the lack of
support, and you know it it.
Why wouldn't you want to workfor your brother that that you
know is going to do and treatyou as a tour keeping brother?
Should you know, when we treateach other by tour and we do
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business by tour, it's a one-up.
It's a one-up Like it's a legup, because in business, the way
that tour is structured, youare supposed to look at your
workers like they family, theynot supposed to be workers.
They're supposed to look atyour workers like they family.
They they not supposed to beworkers, they're supposed to be
(50:15):
family.
So you treat them the same waythat you would treat your son
that works for you it's a leg up.
But that's why I say these a lotof brothers and sisters.
They say they, they keep intourists, but they ain't they
fly, they lie I think you knowit's ego.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, it's that too.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
But I, I really do think that and I really do, you
know, wish that that brothersand sisters would come together
and uh and help one another,because I mean, she's about to
hit the fan, it's about to getugly.
You know what I'm saying theway that you know, quavius is
doing his thing Like he ain'teven man.
(50:59):
He ain't no hoes boy out here,for nobody Like you know what
I'm saying, Truly truly.
Yeah.
So we got to start moving andcoming together, like you know,
and really helping each other.
Because, like, I didn't like,wow, like that's, I would love
(51:20):
to work for my brother, like ifI knew that my brother had like
a trucking business or somethinglike that.
There's a couple brothers thatI knew in the troop that I
wanted to work for, and you knowthey, you know it, just ain't
they, they didn't pick me so itwas like okay, whatever, but you
know, I, I would love to workfor my brother.
Like why would I want to workfor, you know, john white or you
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know anybody else that ain't go, that ain't gonna honor the
sabbath, that ain't gonna honorthe feast days, that ain't going
to honor the Sabbath, thatain't going to honor the feast
days, that ain't going to honorthe fact that I have a certain
type of diet you know what I'msaying that's not going to honor
the fact that stop asking me towork on the Sabbath, when I
told you a hundred times no, nowI'm feeling disrespected.
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You know A lot of thesecompanies do that.
But to work for my brother,that's something different, you
know, it's a different feel.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
I'm not sure what that's about.
We move.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
And I see that you know as a sister and as a wife,
it gets to you.
I can see it.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Absolutely, because it makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense to me.
I just it's not a matter ofwho's the boss or who's under
you.
It's like let's grow this thingtogether, the hand in hand.
Let's do this thing man andeverybody wants to be the boss,
the leader.
It's like's like oh, thatdoesn't matter, the titles don't
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matter, it's about the mission,and people are not willing to
invest in the mission.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
You know one thing that I do take from when Alicia
was teaching, he said he waslike man a brother can't call
himself a leader if he ain't gothis own business and he ain't
doing something to employ hisbrethren.
You know what I'm saying and itwas I'm just paraphrasing, but
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it was a lot of other things hedid say with that too.
But to this, from taking fromthat, like you know, like it, it
takes a certain type of brotherto be a leader you know what
I'm saying and to understandwhat a leadership role is.
And if you have a brotherthat's in that leadership role,
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why wouldn't you want to followafter?
It ain't like he's going totell you how to leave your house
, or do you know what I'm saying?
No, we just I'm trying to leadyou to the, to the promised land
, my nigga.
Like you know, I'm saying typestuff, but I get it.
It can get frustrating.
I have.
I felt the same way too aboutyou know, my record label and
(54:07):
everything.
But you know it.
You just keep pushing, keeppushing and you deal with the
people that deal with you andyou know you build, you build
with who's gonna build with you,you know yeah praise is like
you know, it's, it's what's upI'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Give me one moment, let me grab my charger.
Okay, give me one moment.
My apologies, I love you.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Shake like something violent to your cochlea
(54:51):
transmits electric signals thatare silent to your heart, which
is your brain.
I need to digest, let thespirit interpretate and then
(55:14):
I'll do the rest.
And if your heart is nothearing, then I'll know.
So you won't live it.
So what will I do with it?
My hobby?
Speaker 2 (55:24):
and you said your husband, he does sprinkler
systems.
Yes, um, yeah, he doessprinkler systems.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yes, yeah, he does sprinkler systems.
What's the name?
Go ahead and give it a plug.
His company name is LivingWaters.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Fire Protection, that's what's up?
Living Waters, fire ProtectionY'all definitely, definitely.
If you need a sprinkler system,even if you don't just go write
a good review you know what I'msaying and give a good Google
review, y'all like even if youdidn't do business with him.
It's many ways to support,support.
(56:06):
Do we have a Facebook or anysocial media pages?
Speaker 3 (56:11):
um, he does have social media but he's not active
on there, unfortunately.
But, um, yeah, he just if,usually, if a person, like, owns
a building of a business ofsome sort, um, fire protection
is mandatory in all states andhe does maintain it.
So, um, you know, if you own ashop or any sort of again, any
(56:33):
sort of buildings, he doesmaintain the fire sprinkler
systems and in new buildings aswell as what he does.
So, yeah, I mean Praja, it'sbeen successful for about five
years now and, yeah, he's doingnothing but growing.
He works a lot and so you know.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Oh, praise you.
But you know, if you don't work, you don't eat.
You don't work, your familydon't eat, so you got to get out
there and get it.
And that's the beautiful thingthat the Most High has allowed
him to have his own business too.
A lot of us still have to workfor Joe White.
He's able to do something thatI know he loves.
(57:27):
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, you start a business witha trade that you got.
You gotta love it, you knowwhat.
I'm saying that's fire, man,that's fire.
So where do you do the?
Where do you?
What farmer's market do you beat usually?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
I this year I am at the Fairfield um farmer's market
, which is near hamilton.
It's about 30 to 30, 30 to 35minutes from downtown cincinnati
, um, but that's almost over.
So I think coming the nextspring or summer season I will
(58:09):
be maybe at the NorthfieldFarmer's Market.
We'll see where the most hightakes me.
But yeah, fairfield Farmer'sMarket.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Fairfield.
That's right around the cornerfrom where I live, Okay, I
didn't know it was that close, Icould have been over there
buying you out, because Idefinitely want some of that
hibiscus.
You said hibiscus ain't reallygood for me, right?
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't suggest it Like you
drink it every day, you know.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
But once in a while it's fine.
Okay, because I got somehibiscus and I put it in my tea
area once in a while.
You have to mix it up rightwith something right to make it
taste.
You know just right.
But I haven't got thatconcoction right, so I just left
it alone.
I left the tub a little bitalone, but that's what's up.
(59:08):
I don't praise this.
I got left alone, but that'swhat's up.
All praises.
So how have you?
Have you done anything?
Do you make anything like that?
Specific to children.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
I am in the process of making some glycerite, which
is a concentrated medicine forchildren.
So essentially it's a tincture,because tinctures are made with
alcohol and so it's a tincture,but because it's glycerin, it's
(59:43):
called glycerite and so, yeah,I'm in the process of making
that.
It's sitting in my cabinetright now.
You got to let it sit for someweeks and then you strain it out
.
So, regarding and it's themixture I'm making has mullein
and cloves in it, which isreally good for the respiratory,
(01:00:04):
such as like coughs and poos.
So, yeah, for children, that aswell, specifically like for
colds and medicines and whatnot,right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
That is dope, Like that's dope.
Like you make it a child'smedicine, children's medicine
yeah, because children shouldn'tbe consuming alcohol.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
You got to consider the children too that is dope.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Like I.
I didn't even think that youwas like.
I thought you was like.
I honestly thought you wasgoing to be like.
Well, you know I'm thinkingabout doing.
No, you already got this going.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
I told you, I do this for my family.
I got to consider the babiestoo.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I'm like, yeah, I already got that's already in.
My thing you got to let it sitfor a couple of weeks, it's
already there, though.
We got that's already in.
Uh, my thing you gotta let itsit for a couple weeks, it's
already there though.
We got that going right now,like but my children myself.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
They actually drink teas too, just with me like yeah
, they actually they'll actuallyaccept cups of tea a day.
I was like they enjoy tea,excuse me I said, you drink it a
lot.
Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
That's why, right like your lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
They just end up, you know, living the same lifestyle
as the parents.
So, yeah, they see us drinking,so they wanted to man must be
nice, I can't get.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I'm trying to bring some more in there when you
think he had drank more, butother than that, uh-uh.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I try to make it on the sweeter side, and so I'm
just like yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
That's what's up, man , that is wild.
So I don't even want to ask youany more questions about what
you're making.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
No, I think we got it down generally.
I don't know what's the newthing I'm going to get into.
I'm just, yeah, I'm just here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I kind of oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Okay, so I do want to get into winemaking, but my
husband, like I, rarely drink,my husband does notemaking, but
my husband, like I rarely drink,my husband does not drink.
So it's kind of like what's thepoint?
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
But for a moment there.
I was very interested inwinemaking.
Well, I mean, hey, wine is goodfor your heart, good for your
heart, your bloodstream too.
You know you can make someholistic wine.
And you know, flip, yeah, man,it'll be vegan, right, vegan,
because you know, a lot of wineain't vegan.
(01:03:01):
You know, it's something thatthey use inside of it that has
like pork or something like thatit's just unclean, so yeah, so
you definitely could get intothat.
I could see it being you know,because I drink wine, a lot of
(01:03:22):
us drink wine.
So, that's something to getinto, I was just like that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
We'll see.
We'll see if that flourishes,but otherwise you got any ideas.
I'm accepting ideas.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I'm accepting ideas.
I'm like man yeah.
I still want that.
I still want to smell thatjuice that you had, that you
said you was going to burp.
You probably done drunk.
It Y'all probably done drunk.
That was months ago.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
The ginger bug.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I want some of that.
Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
That's pretty much soda for real Carbonated drink.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
That's really just a carbonated drink, honestly, but
I haven't made that in a whileactually wow yeah so you got a
carbonation machine there too no, it's, no, it's, uh, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
It's not a machine, it's just literally ginger and
sugar and you let it ferment andthen you make a flavored drink
with it and you put it in apressurized bottle, let it sit
for a few days and it'scarbonated.
It literally opens up like sodaand oh, and it's also probiotic
(01:04:44):
too.
So it's actually good for you,so it's good for your gut health
.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
So and do you sell a lot of that, or do people know I
?
Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
don't, I don't, I don't sell that one.
I don't sell that one.
That is just for me and myfamily, because again.
Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I have to now think about like I think packaging is
like my biggest hurdle.
Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
It's like, okay, how am I going to package this?
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Especially with carbonated drinks.
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
But I can teach you how to do it.
I'm always going to give youthe recipe.
I'll give you the recipe.
I'll tell you anybody how to doit, because if I can do it,
anybody else can do it right,all right, that's what's up.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Man, maybe you should .
You should do some tutorials,like on your, on a, on your
website.
You have a website no, I don'thave a website I can't ask you
yet, because I just really wantto go to the website.
Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
I'm not even gonna lie like I might have to make
one, but, um, I do do videos,like when I'm making certain
things.
I do do like short videos, stepby step, of like what it is I'm
doing and how I do it, just tocreate some type of transparency
between me and a potentialcustomer, right?
Um, it's just a matter ofposting it.
(01:06:07):
It's just a matter of postingit and making it look digestible
right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I was trying to look for her page like for real
on facebook, but I haven't beenactive.
Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
In a couple months I haven't been active.
I just had to take a quicksocial media break, but I'll be
back soon.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, well, I wanted to look at some of these, like
some of the shorts that she wasdoing, because they were very
informative, but I got like fourpages.
Y'all Don't don't we listen,but we don't judge right.
So I got four pages.
(01:06:49):
I'm not a troll.
I am a troll, but I'm not atroll.
I don't have her on one of mypages.
That's connected to my laptop.
I really wanted to watch acouple videos.
For those that don't know her, Ihave her as a friend on
Facebook just to see some of thethings that she's doing, just
(01:07:13):
some of the informatives she has.
She talked about your diaphragmone time and she talked about
things for women.
She's really informative aboutthat stuff.
A lot of the stuff that she betalking about, like I just have
to like I scroll, I scroll up onit and be like, oh, let me see
(01:07:35):
what she talking about and it isgeared towards it's not like
gender, like gender, like, oh,it's just for women, it's like
neutral.
So she talks about a little bitof and the things that she does
say it's like man, I can dothat and she gives it to you in
the easiest form.
You know some people, some ofthese holistic gurus.
(01:07:56):
You're like man.
You got to do this and this andthis and that, and you got to
take seven drops of this and 24drops of that, and you're like
man.
Why, bro, like bro, you lost meat the first ingredient, my
nigga.
That's right, sister, tell youreal easy.
She show you how to do it andshe's doing it.
She did one video I remember itwas a tutorial and I'm like,
(01:08:18):
hey, man, I'm about to go inhere and cook this, but I forgot
that I didn't have none of thisshit that she was talking about
.
But the video was soinformative y'all Like for real,
it had real Y'all a holisticbuff like me, man, you go enjoy
her content.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Thank you, I gotta get into more posting.
I gotta get into more posting.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I get it.
It can get exhausting at timesbecause Black folks is
exhausting.
You could be posting somethingon Facebook and then scroll and
see something and you be likefor real, like I'm just about to
throw my whole phone away.
I'm tired of Facebook.
So, yeah, I get it, I get it.
(01:09:01):
It be hard, you know, I get it.
So you said that you don't knowwhat's the next thing you're
getting into.
But so I'm just going to askyou.
I'm just going to ask you Doyou do like any kind of like
(01:09:22):
desserts or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Of course, like I'm a cooker, I'm in the kitchen,
yeah, but I make muffins.
I make uh, what's it called?
I don't.
I don't know if I call this adessert, but souffles.
My kids love that, for likeyou'd be.
Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
You'd be firing them up on the top too, with the,
with the uh, with the, with thelittle blowtorch.
You know you make the soufflewith the little blowtorch.
You know you make the soufflewith the little no.
Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
I don't use the blowtorch no, not that.
But yeah, I think for the mostpart my Pop-Tarts.
I haven't made that in a while,but my husband loves Pop-Tarts
so I try to make the healthyversion, the homemade version.
Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I should say she did say she made them last.
She said she made healthyPop-Tarts.
I'm like are you selling those?
But unfortunately for us, thoseare not an item that she's
selling to.
I don't know why she's tellingus about stuff she ain't selling
us.
Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Those are perishable.
I make a lot of bread.
My children love bread.
Yeah, For the most part muffinsor cupcakes.
Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Do you prefer bacon over cooking sometimes?
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I like them equally, both equally.
Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Yeah, it really just depends, but I of course cook
more than I bake, but yeah,Right, right, I get that Because
baking, like once I feel likeat least with cooking if you
mess up you can easily fix it,but with baking if you mess up a
little, easily fix it.
But with baking if you mess upa little bit then you probably
(01:11:12):
mess up the whole thing thewhole thing, just throw the
whole thing away I hate wastingingredients.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I hate wasting ingredients yeah, especially
with muffins, man, muffins arethe one thing.
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
It's like, man, you don't get it right no, truly, I
think muffins are pretty easy tofollow.
At least, the recipe I came upwith is pretty easy.
I think my biggest challengenow is like perfecting the
perfect sourdough.
Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Sourdough has been a challenge for me, especially
starting, at least but, that's achallenge because it's like a
24-hour situation right, that'swhat I was about to ask you like
how long do you let it, let thedough sit for?
Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
it's literally all day.
You won't get to bake it to thenight time.
Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
This is a lot but living you learn you live and
you learn well, you know you,like you said, you had a time,
and all praise for the most highthat you are able to.
You know what I'm saying hadhis time to learn and experience
and perfect your craft.
I wish I had the time.
(01:12:20):
You know, I would definitely bein the kitchen more and doing
more things holistically, buthad to work.
Excuse me y'all, sorry,apologies, but yeah, it's
definitely a.
It's definitely a.
You're definitely giving aservice to the community and
(01:12:45):
definitely being a big helpBecause, like I said, you know,
once you get the stuff that youwant, to the prototypes.
Because, see y'all, like I said, she keep on the good stuff for
herself and I'm really startingto feel some type of way about
that.
You know we're not even goingto talk about that how angry I
(01:13:08):
am with her right now.
Not angry be slow to anger, butyeah, no, it's, it's the stuff
that she does give.
Y'all, y'all go and and andsell, and buy her out and get
everything that she has andsupport and, uh, support her
husband too.
Too, you know they both aredoing it.
Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
And I will say that I have to do a better job with
reaching out to my people andbeing more open per se.
And again I guess it goes backto, like you know, just showing
my face and knowing that I amyou, I am letting people see me
and who I am, and I think thatkind of clashes with my
(01:13:56):
personality because I really Ilike to be low key, but if you
want to be, if you want to sellyour stuff, you got to be.
You know where the people areat.
so I just have to find a balancebetween those two Definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
But that's on me.
Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
I don't need anybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
You don't want to be too too.
You know too out on the socialmedia and the social public.
I get it and you and then youwant to be, so you can your
business and your brand can grow.
So it's a healthy medium.
You got to find that, Iunderstand.
But yeah, y'all, this is yourboy, abiy, at the Spit the Truth
(01:14:38):
Podcast and we're with SisterYC and she is definitely the
business Y'all go in and support.
I can't stress that enough, man, man, because we don't support
each other enough and we wealready touched on that but and
we don't have to talk about itagain but y'all just know that.
(01:15:00):
You know the sister is, is, is,is giving y'all service and she
don't have to do it for y'all,she don don't have to, like you
know, but the most high put iton her heart to do it for her
family and she extends that sameblessing.
You know, that's one thing thatKing David was good for.
He always used to say you know,bless me so I can.
(01:15:23):
The blessings that you bless mewill extend to my brother.
You know, I think it was KingSolomon or King David that said
that.
And that's what you're doing.
You're blessing everybody elsebecause the blessings that you
have given each other.
Well, you have been given, soI'll praise to the most high
sisters.
Is there anything else you wantto tell the people?
This is the time to let themknow your links, your website,
(01:15:47):
all that good stuff where theycan find your products, where
they can find your products,where they can find you at and
come and buy you out.
And you know just your lastlittle inspirational word.
I know you got one um, myfacebook.
Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
I'm on facebook.
Um, it's lc.
The letter is lc israel, withthe y in the start of it.
Um, ultimately, take care of,take care of yourself, take care
of yourself.
You got one body.
You got one life.
Just take care of it the bestyou can.
And, yeah, hallelujah.
Thank you, guys for listeningand support.
(01:16:23):
You're welcome to reach out tome.
I'm not, I don't bite.
I hope I'm not scary.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
But yeah, I'm crazy, know y'all, if y'all don't
support, uh, y'all go see thisface and I'm gonna be like you,
uh, you a hater.
I'm just gonna tell you rightnow, like because we, we got it.
I can't stress it enough, y'allcan't stress it enough.
The sister is veryknowledgeable and she's only
getting better as she learns,more and more innovative with
(01:16:56):
the things that she's creatingwith her hands, like she has
baby medicine, y'all.
It's literally sitting in hercabinet right now play with her.
If y'all want, man, play withher.
If y'all want y'all, don't,play with y'all's children.
(01:17:17):
We know how to do too much.
We know how to do too much.
They're trying to get rid of usbecause they know, man, we can
heal ourselves.
We don't need they medicine.
You know.
I saying, as long as we gotsisters like Sister LC, what do
we need the medicine for?
I go get on her page and go buyeverything I need and be good
(01:17:39):
the next week Practice.
So, hey, at the end of the day,y'all get up.
Y'all get up and support this.
Your boy Abiyah signing off Spit, your true podcast.
Man, we love y'all, me andsister LC.
We just chopped it up and shejust gave y'all some more jewels
(01:17:59):
.
Definitely, man, go buy herstuff.
Man, go do the best that y'allcan.
Like.
Y'all Hebrews always like tosay we got to do the best we can
, so do the best y'all can andget down and buy her stuff Best
y'all can with that.
You know what I'm saying.
All praises to the Most High.
Y'all, sister, we love you, weappreciate you getting on the
show with us.
We're going to have to do apart three and this is the part
(01:18:22):
three.
I'm going to ask them somecompromising questions, because
I like controversy.
I like controversy, but youknow what?
Yeah, I'm messy as hell.
I'm messy, but all praises tothe Most High Sister.
We love you, we appreciate you.
May the Most High bless you andyour family and keep y'all
going, keep y'all successful,keep y'all happy and healthy All
(01:18:44):
praises to the.
Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Most High.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Shalom, Sister Shalom .
Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Praise God, shalom, shalom, shalom.
Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Shalom, thank you.
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