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These are some really wild episodes. Turns out that Whitebeard may have an illegitimate son, though I have my doubts, and there's a giant elephant walking through the ocean with a whole island on its back! Sadly we get more of Konjuro's Saddest Animal Drawings but thankfully it's got a happy(ish) ending. 
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
covering one piece episodes seven fifty one, seven fifty two,
and seven to fifty three curtain up on a new
adventure arriving at the Phantom Island Zoo, the new warlord,

(00:23):
the legendary white Beard Sun appears, and a deadly elephant
climb a great adventure on the back of the giant elephant.
In these episodes, this is a really weird start to things,
you guys. I feel like this might be the strangest

(00:44):
opening of a new arc. And I mean we've done
some weird shit. We have done weird stuff, man, but
overall the this is well, we'll see. Welcome to spoil Me,

(01:21):
Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you
very much to Florian for commissioning this episode. You guys,
I am so weirded out by so many things in
these episodes, and like in a way that I'm enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I just want to make it clear.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's not like, ill, what is this? I don't want
to watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's just like, oh my god, what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I need to see what happens next. I was very
very sad when I finished my third episode, because I
was like, no, come on.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Come on, you can't just leave it there.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We've got a fucking free NAMMI. Maybe it seems like
perhaps really I think that this probably spawned a lot
of fan fiction, but you know, that's neither here nor
there for right now. So I'm gonna start talking about

(02:19):
seven fifty one. But Laurian did warn me ahead of
time that pretty much it's just like the second half
of seven fifty one, if that that is important, because
like it's almost all a retelling of the adventures of
the entire straw Hats and how they found each other

(02:40):
from like day one, which I won't say it was
like boring to watch because actually seeing it all very
summarized and concise, I was like, oh, yeah, you know,
I'm enjoying refreshing my memory on a lot of this stuff.
But it is sort of funny the this show is

(03:00):
just so long running that I think you kind of
have to do this sometimes right, just to catch everybody up.
But I am really like, you guys, they have to
say goodbye to Bart's l'omeo, and do you know how
sad I was about it. I just really don't want

(03:21):
him to fall out of the story. I want Bartolomeo
to be around all the time. He's just I just
I really would have expected that by now his bit
would be getting old and I'd be tired of him,
and it has not happened. If anything, I want more.
And I don't know, maybe other people don't feel that way,

(03:43):
but I could definitely take more. If he wants to
hang around outside this island and just sort of see
if the Straw has to meet him again, I wouldn't
be mad. I wouldn't be mad at it. Seraphim says.
The arc slash elephant is pnnounced either zoe with a
long oh or rhyming with chow zau thou or zo huh.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I wonder well.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I think I'm just gonna go with Zoe because that's
the way it looks to me.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
But if either, if one of them.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Is like more correct than the other, I will adjust.
So we go to see Kizerou and he asks was
it him as he's clipping his nails nonchalantly, and there's

(04:38):
a marinum reporting to him who says, yes, Edward. Weevil,
which having the last name Weeville really does suck like
weevils are little creatures like I think they're insects that
get into food and ruin it.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So that's not great.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's like the name cockroach or mealworm or something more.
Pirates who worked under white Beard. Huh, remind me how
many captains has he put down in all? Sixteen? Now, sir,
First they have some sort of disagreement, then he takes
them out along with whatever town they're in. As usual,

(05:22):
he leaves a big mess. In addition to the collateral damage.
The death tolls at about six hundred six hundred, and
Keiseru's like, well, uh, that's too many. Like, we can't
turn a blind eye. We are going to have to
figure out how to handle this, and he says oh. Also,

(05:45):
he claims to be the biological son of Edward Newgate,
though not too many people are buying it. Keiserus says, well,
that doesn't really matter either way. He does have one
valuable trait though, Edward Weeville is a tremendously powerful pirate.

(06:08):
In fact, he's just like white Beard was as a
young man in terms of his physical strength, though that's
all they have in common. We see this guy later. Well,

(06:29):
you know what, I'm gonna wait, We'll wait we'll wait,
we'll get there, Okay. So we go back to the
straw hats. Bartolomeo is very seasick, and it turns out
the whole pirate crew is all seasick. And there's gum
everywhere because he was told by his grandmother that that

(06:53):
helps soothe your stomach when you're nauseous. So they've just
been chewing it and spitting it all over the place.
This is bonkers to me, Like, look, if you've got
to spit your gum out, you're literally on a boat.
Just spit it over the side. Why would you leave
it on your boat? This There was a friend of
mine who had a guest, and their guest was somebody

(07:16):
that I knew that I'm friendly with you guys, while
this person was at their house, i'll call this person Dana.
Dana had a bag of those dumb, dumb lollipops and
Dana proceeded to tear her way through that whole bag

(07:40):
of lollipops and dropped the sticky ended sticks from the
lollipops all over the floor and on the bed, and
like just left them all over my friend's house, just
dropped them wherever she happened to be standing when she

(08:02):
finished it. When I tell you, I my mouth was
hanging open hearing this. What kind of person are like?
Who raised you? I mean, setting aside eating an entire
bag of dumb dumb lollipops, which is already that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But then you don't even.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Anyway. I'm looking at you very sideways for this. Bartilomeo
and your entire crew get it together. So this is
when his guy who's omni in the crow's nest is saying,
I see something out there, and I can't tell if
it's an island or if it's a giant creature, but
it seems like it's moving. I love Bartolomeo being like,

(08:54):
do we need to get you a different job, because
like you can't tell if it's an animal or an island,
that feels like you should be able to tell which
one it is. And eventually it's just like, all right, well,
I don't know what to do with this information, Like
this is not very helpful. There's a moment where Zorro
calls uh usop god and oosup is in the midst

(09:20):
of like being fake human.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I keep wanting to.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Say humili fake, humble, that's the word and you see
Frankie like looming behind him because Frankie's jealous of his bounty,
and I did think.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
That was very, very funny.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So they are watching the little piece of the beaver
card and it is pointing towards the thing that this
guy saw, so they are going to continue to follow it,
and eventually they reach this thing and it is a
giant elephant. This thing has an entire island on its back,

(10:08):
and it's a wandering island because this elephant just walks
around and it's coordinates change, which means he calls it
a phantom island. But this means that you can't use
a log pose to get to it. And they just

(10:30):
managed to find their way because of the weaver card.
So he says, I'm trying to find the spot where Sorry,
I'm looking at the controls on this Normally I can
just rewind ten seconds, but it's not letting me.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
That means Blackfoot group might have gotten here long before
we did because it's walking away from them, so it's
been outpacing them. This island beyond the back of an
elephant is.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I just don't know how I.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Feel about this, Like you know, there's a whole thing
on the back of a turtle, so you could have
gone in that direction and been kind of obvious an
elephant not being a sea creature, but like walking around
the sea, I think it makes me uncomfortable because, like,
if it's a sea turtle, it's in its habitat, it's

(11:30):
doing what it does. It's a turtle, it swims, it's fine.
But an elephant's like supposed to eat leaves and stuff.
What's it eating. This doesn't feel like where it's supposed
to be. And at one point we get a look
at the front of it and it's just got these
hollows where its eyes should be, and it looks very sad,

(11:51):
and overall this combined with our weird dragon friend later,
there were just too many sad animals.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
In these episodes for my taste, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
So anyway, we get again a moment of Traffy asking
for something for food from Barchilomeo and Bartilomeo telling him
to go screw until Travi says it's for the straw hats,
and then he's immediately like, oh, yeah, take anything you need.
So evidently the island of Zoo is inhabited by a

(12:30):
people called Minks m I n Ks, and they are
not human and human beings have been banned from coming
here this whole time, which I'm assuming that is the
humanoid animal creatures. You know, we shall see what they

(12:54):
are called, but I'm assuming those are the minks. The
episode ends with Louve realizing that this elephant he's looking
at is probably like a thousand years old, and then
we get to the point where the ship pulls up
next to the sunny and Bartolomeo loses his ever loving mind.

(13:16):
He it's like if Rashaan saw in person the in
Paula from Supernatural, you know, even more so, though, Saraphim says,

(13:36):
remember the odd gray, cobblestone like ground from the brief
look at Sanji's group elephant's skin, Oh yeah, all that water.
I wonder if it's the trunk coming back, I guess,
and it dumping its water on itself. The elephant's favorite

(13:57):
food is to reach up and grab apples from sky islands. Hmmm,
it just seems so lonely, like it just seems like,
you know, this isn't much of a life. I don't know,
but thank you for that. Sarah him so barts of

(14:18):
the Mayo. You know, we have we have to deal
with a lot of his fan boying. There's a point
where he's just like telling all of them how much
it's meant to him to help them, and can we
at some point get the rest of your uh your
autographs because we don't have the whole collection. And it

(14:39):
turns out that they're not listening to him at all.
And as they're leaving, Lufy just yells down. He calls
him Lo mio and says like, thanks for your help.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
And I was just like, this is so inadequate.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I had been so pleased with Lufy gassing bar to
the Mao up when they were still Ondres Rosa and
being like you fucking killed it, dude, and I really
wanted him to do that here. And he just doesn't
give him the time of day the way that Bartolomeo deserves.
And look, Bartolomeo doesn't even seem upset, So I'm not
trying to say like he heard his feelings or anything,

(15:19):
but I wanted him to be better, that's all.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
So the crew is.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Looking at this, uh at the sunny and just trying
to see if there's anything obvious about it. That is wrong,
that could point to the you know, reason that they
have stopped here. It's tethered to the side of this elephant,
so it's just being pulled along, I guess. So yeah,

(15:49):
Loufy climbs aboard, wanders around trying to find anybody, and
there is nobody there. Then we jump over to the
Revolutionary Armies General Headquarters. What's it called Belt Baltigo. Sorry,

(16:09):
the subtitles are covering up the actual title cards, so
it's very hard to read. But anyway, Dragon is here
and he is looking at the report of what's going
on with all of the different groups of pirates now
that Do Flamingo has been taken down, and is like, yeah,

(16:33):
this has had a significant impact on things. Tell the
men not to get too comfortable. The world government won't
have it, and Cipher Pole has been reinforced in recent years.
That's why we need to stay on our guard. And
as we see later, their little hangout has been discovered. Anyway,
so so Kowala comes to report and she says that

(16:57):
there is a weird metal inside the weapons that they stole,
called drunken iron ore and it's really really rare. So
there are only a few places that it can be mined,
and that means that it's possible they will be able
to trace back to where the weapons were made. And

(17:21):
he says, you brought our lost comrades back as well.
You've done some impressive work, and she's very quick to like, oh,
Sabo and Loufy helped me out a lot. Then he says,
any news about Robin. I heard she was in saba Aldi,
but that turned out to.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Not be true.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
And I was sort of interested in the fact that
he asked about Robin specifically. I don't remember if there
is a link between them that I'm forgetting guys, but
I I felt like there was a there had to
be a reason that I should know about why he's
asking about our specifically, and I don't recall, So if

(18:05):
there's anything, let me know. So Koala says, well, hold on,
don't you want to know about Loofy? And he says, ugh,
I've already heard enough and she says, oh, Sabo gave

(18:25):
you the full report, then, huh, and he just says, anyway, Dragon,
what the fuck, dude, I'm genuinely asking what, why are

(18:51):
you behaving like this about him? Why don't like I
have been explaining away his lack of involvement in Lufy's
life by saying he's trying to protect him by not
signaling that they're even related to each other, or you know,

(19:13):
like all of this stuff. But then he just like
blurts out that Lufy's his son to a bunch of
people in one of the other episodes, and then this
episode just clearly doesn't want to hear a thing about Loufy,
And I don't understand where his head is at. Why
is he so uninterested in his child? It's making me

(19:37):
judge him. It's bothering me, Like the fact that she asked,
like she assumes that he got the report from Sabo
and he just says, anyway, I just expected. It's clear

(20:00):
he did not get the full report from Garb to me.
The way that he says anyway is evidence that like, no,
he didn't. And I don't understand the thinking here. I'm
really curious, what is I've heard enough? Like he thinks
that it's bad news or something, you know what I mean.

(20:21):
Like it sounds the way he said, it sounds like
I don't want to hear anymore because it's bumming me out.
Why for what reason? Saraphem says she spent the time
skip with them right, very cute. Sarahm. I was like,

(20:44):
I know there's a connection in there. I forgot about
that whole thing. I totally forgot about that. God, it's
wild how completely I forgot about that. That's like crashing
into my brain right now with a force of like
a brand new plowline. Bernadette guests who will not win
Father of the Year anytime soon. Sarah him says Garp

(21:06):
was the one that blurted out the family relations.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
No no, no, like.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
There's a previous in dress Row. So there's a scene
with Dragon where he just like says, in front of
a bunch of his people, oh yeah, that's my son.
By the way, wasn't it Like I could have sworn
he says it. And that was what like shocked me,
because I was thinking he was keeping it secret, and
then he doesn't bother at all and he says it.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
To everybody like it's no big deal.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
And it was a moment of like simultaneous I don't
I thought I knew why he wasn't telling and now
apparently I don't. And also it made me feel like,
oh yeah, that's definitely a dude related to Loofy, because
he's just acting like this huge bomb he dropped is
nothing the way that Lufy often does, because yeah, what

(21:57):
the scene I'm thinking of happened very recently and Garp
hasn't been around for a minute anyway.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
So let's see.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
He says, go summon leaders from the Revolutionary Army from
all around the world, and Koala says it's going to
get pretty intense having all of them together, though, but
he does not answer. And then we go over to
the Blackbeard Pirates. Now this this what do you call it? Emblem?

(22:35):
I really wish I had like a little cipher of
all of the different Jolly rogers around, But yeah, this
might be the one that was like being pointed out

(22:56):
before that I should have recognized several episodes ago, perhaps,
Sarahim says at this point, the relation was made public
during Marine Force, so that was just him confirming it
was true once it was known. No, like, look, Saraphim,
the scene, everybody acted shocked, so they definitely didn't know

(23:18):
in the scene, and that was like the point was
that he just says it like it's no big deal,
and everybody around.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Him is like holy fuck.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
So it's definitely I get what you're saying and that
it maybe should be that way, but that's not how
it was played. So let me touch base with Lafitte,
who is getting a call from Burgess. Uh, and he
is what's the.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Word I want here?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
He sounds agitated, and Lafitte's like, I went there supposed
to get you and you weren't there. And Burgess is like, yeah, sorry,
I got fucked up and I wasn't able to contact you.
And Lafite it's like, okay, so where are you? Where

(24:08):
should we go? And he says it's an island where
everything is bright white. I'm stowed away. I snuck down
into the bottom of a ship. The tell teach something
for me. If we invade this place, we'll be up
to our eyeballs in free weapons, and make sure to

(24:30):
send doc Q. I'm at death's doorstep over here, and
Lafite is like, can you just fucking tell me where
you are? And he says, I don't know like the
directions to it, but follow my viaver card and Dragon
is here. So, Sabbo, this is the headquarters of the

(24:56):
Revolutionary Army. I am very, very annoyed that Burgess is
here causing trouble. I don't like him, I don't ah,
just here's the thing, and this is sometimes the case.
So this is not me like calling out the writing,

(25:18):
but it is me lamenting a thing that can happen.
It always makes me really sad when a person who
really truly sucks manages to do something that brings down
a carefully coordinated and organized operation. You know, a person

(25:39):
who is like a fool and incompetent and just overall
a real loser, and they are able to throw a
wrench in the works of people who are better than
them in literally every way. And unfortunately that happens like
fairly easily, because in truth, when you are an intelligent

(26:03):
person and you try and account for all the ways
that a thing can go wrong, you don't often account
for just idiots because you kind of forget how stupid
people can actually be, and you underestimate that because you're
just sort of you know, the fact that he was
able to just literally like stow away. I mean, I'm

(26:30):
just I hate this for them, and I just wish
that he would die, I really just drop dead. But
he's so pleased with himself. He really feels like he
did something. So we then go over to Edward Weavil

(26:52):
and the way that he has described is self proclaimed
only son of white Beard, and then we meet his
wife and not wife, his lover, sorry they weren't married.

(27:13):
Miss Buckin is her name, self proclaimed Whitebeard's lover. Let's
take a second and talk about miss Buckin'.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I don't know where to start.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
First of all, she has like this very pinched face.
She's got the look around her lips from all those
lines that people get when they smoke very heavily, because
they're always sort of pinching and puckering their mouths around
the end of the cigarette and it can lead to
this very particular kind of wrinkle pattern. And I think

(27:56):
for her it's just meant to be, like she purses
her lips a lot because she is like uptight. And
she's got these teeny tiny little black glasses with these
eyebrows that really only go like halfway over where the
eye her eyebrows should be. She has hair that is

(28:19):
very much giving Helmepo to me. It's like almost the
exact same haircut, but it's topped with this tiny little
leprechawn hat. She's wearing a purple dress that's got white

(28:40):
Beard's like a white Beard style sort of Jolly Roger
on it, but it's not his. It's just like a
sort of you know, there's it's got his mustache on
it and whatnot, with yellow pearls around her neck and
a leopard coat overall that's got green fur trim and

(29:07):
a huge green furry collar, which is also kind of
giving like she looks like a very trashy leprechaun. She
really does. She's got a walking stick, and when her
hand rests on it, you can see that every single
one of her fingers has a ring on it, and
it's clear that her whole vibe is meant.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
To be very grasping.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
What she was reminding me of was in the Adam's
Family movie. You know Gordon, who is supposedly fake Fester
but he is the real Fester, and the woman who
is pretending to be his mother Gordon, I love you,

(29:56):
Gordon the Vault. So she is is telling him that
you are inheriting your father's legacy. You look just like him.
I have this photo to prove that you are definitely
his relation. And this dude is Hugh Mungous and he's got.

(30:21):
I'm trying to think of exactly how to describe his
outfit too, because it's really something he's got like a
a pair of overalls kind of that has the same
sigil on the front, but with the two gold braids,
which he's got, shoes very very akin to like Pilgrim's

(30:43):
shoes with a buckle, and his hair which is almost
to the ground in the back and very fluffy in
the style of like do Flamingo's jacket, and a little
bean on the.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Top of his head.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
And when I mentioned earlier that he has on overalls,
the straps of the overalls are chain they are not
regular fabric straps. So yeah, he is also being very
much bullied by his mother. It's very clear that like

(31:24):
he isn't wanting the things that she wants from him.
He isn't ambitious, and he isn't grasping, and he doesn't
really feel like he has owed anything because he is
Whitebeard's son. Even if he believes that he is his son,
it seems like for him it's kind of irrelevant, and

(31:45):
she is just using him to get what she thinks
he deserves and thus what she deserves. And this is
one of those tropes that's like, it's I have absolutely
zero doubt that this is something that has gone down
this way, but it's it's a trope that's always like

(32:07):
hit me as a sort of problematic because it's and
I'm not saying that here necessarily, I'm just gonna express
my feelings on it as a trope in general. A
couple things. One, Historically women have had so little power
that a woman having a son of a powerful man

(32:31):
and then leveraging her son to use against him, it
only makes sense. It's the sort of thing where it's like, yeah,
this is the one power point that she has to
press on, and it's hard for me to get mad
about it sometimes because I'm just like, what else is
she supposed to do? And then there's also like the

(32:55):
fantasy that a lot of men have in their head
about how women pregnant to try and trap a guy. Now, again,
that definitely happens, but so many dudes behave as if
it's something that's about to happen to them, when nobody
would ever try to trap you because you are poor,

(33:15):
you are not a movie star, you are not a
NFL player, you work a circle. Okay, nobody's trying to
trap you guy, like it's just overvaluing yourself so much,
you know so, And you know, obviously I don't know
what she was doing when white Beard was still alive,

(33:37):
if she was like on this kick already, But there's
a vibe for me that she's doing this now because
he's dead and he can't contradict her. I have a
very hard time believing that Whitebeard fucked her, but you know,
people change, and maybe she was really something at one point.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
What do I know.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I'm just like, also, the size differential, it's very difficult
for me to like in this universe. Understand, white Beard
was like fourteen feet tall and this woman looks like
she's about three and a half. I feel like his
dick would be bigger than her in like entire body.

(34:16):
So I don't really want to know, to be honest,
I have these questions a lot. You guys know, it's
just not gonna ever really make sense. And that's fine,
Sarahim says trailer park Leprechaun Karen, which, yeah, I feel
like that works. The Karen Park, I feel like sort

(34:39):
of remains to be seen. I can see it with her,
but there is something about her aggression that, like Karen
is so much more of like a suburban mom vibe
for me, and this lady is very much giving, like
what she's making me think of. Like East Haven, when

(35:01):
I lived in Connecticut, had a very very high Italian population,
and the way that boy children were treated in comparison
to their sisters by both their mothers and fathers was
so god awful to witness. And the moms had the

(35:22):
same intense jewelry and clothing style as well. So she's
got like the Leprechaun thing going for her in her
size and color choices. But she's got like kind of
mob wife energy as well. But yeah, so it's it's

(35:43):
just she's a lot and I this dude is out here,
like the death toll is up to six hundred, and
he doesn't really seem to want to do this really,
you know, he's clearly like not very smart. And he
says something at one point like I'm so sorry for
being stupid, and she's just like, yeah, I know. It

(36:05):
doesn't say, oh, honey, you're not stupid, never say that.
She's like, yeah, you're very dumb. Just listen to me
and don't think to yourself about anything. But she is
assuming that his dad died a rich man and figures
whatever he's got belongs to you ultimately. So as they're

(36:31):
walking along, we have one of those weird little Pelican
guys who delivers newspapers that she hails down and gets
a newspaper for, and he's saying to her, money is okay,
but what I really want is revenge. Blackbeard's gonna pay

(36:53):
for killing my daddy. I'll never forgive that big bully.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I'm gonna beat him up.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Till he's good and dead and he starts crying. And
this I can get behind. I can understand. She says,
foolish boy, where's the sense in getting even? You can't
pay the bills with revenge? You know which, honestly, you

(37:21):
can't pay the bills with revenge? Does kind of eat
as a line. I kind of love it, Like for
a moment I was like, Yeah, this guy's got the
right idea, And then when she said that, I was
sort of like, ooh, she makes a very good point.
You know, these days kids, money talks. Man, Like, I

(37:41):
know that we all want to be free from the
tyranny of the almighty dollar or whatever your currency is
where you live, but like the fact is we gotta
pay to live. And I think about the kinds of
things that people do for money, and I don't mean
like it's so funny, because when you that the kinds
of things people do for money, it brings up all

(38:03):
these lurid ideas of like drug dealing or sex work
or you know, like that's not even what I was thinking.
I was thinking about, Like big celebrities doing really undignified
commercials was what I was thinking, you know, like when
they just suddenly they're in a Capital one commercial and
you're just like, what, why George Clooney really? And it

(38:27):
just makes me think sometimes about like there are so
many things over the years that I could have decided
to do if I really wanted money over everything, and
I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And sometimes I look back and I'm like, should I have?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Though? You know, even with the podcast, like I took
down Harry Potter because I felt really uncomfortable with this
recording of me and Rashaan for literal years talking about
how great JK. Rolling is and that being out there
in the world with no context.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So I took it down.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
And I made it patrons only, but I was making
fucking solid money off of the ads from that show,
and took a hit when I took it down, Like
I really took a hit. And I think about all
the time, like I could have just left it up.
I don't think anybody would have like yelled at me
for it. Nobody had really mentioned it bothering them or anything.

(39:23):
But I couldn't live with it. I couldn't do it
for me for my own morality. I was just like,
this makes me uncomfortable, and like I wish I could
just not be uncomfortable with stuff and just let me,
let me let money roll in and just fucking let it,
you know. But so anyway, this uh go and claim

(39:48):
what belongs to you, and he just says, okay, mom,
I will uh. And then he asks her what does
the newspaper say, and she's like, well, don't Flamingo just
got taken out And she says it like really casually.

(40:09):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
It's pretty big news.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
But she's just like, ah, this fucking clown, which I
did find entertaining because everybody's just given to Flamingo so
much respect, you know, and her just being like ugh,
I thought that was very funny. Saraphim says, but Blackbeard
is also an emperor. You could beat him up and
steal all his treasure. That's true, that's true. Florian says, yeah,

(40:36):
but there are easier ways to get money than to
go up against Blackbeard, I would think, And Sarahim says, yep,
she just wants an easy score, and yeah, that's the
thing is like she doesn't want to She wants to
be able to sail in and say this already belongs
to us, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Which I do get the appeal like she.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I can't decide. I don't know yet, and maybe we'll
find out, or maybe we won't, and we'll just have
to sort of base our thoughts on this on context clues.
I can't tell if she actually believes that this is

(41:17):
his son, or if she just knows this dude looks
exactly like him and it's a really solid scam, you know.
I feel like she seems to believe it. I feel
like she really, you know. But sometimes there's a type
of person that can get very into their scam to

(41:41):
the point that they do start to believe their own bullshit.
So who can say. But I guess we'll find or
like I said, or maybe we won't. I don't know.
So then we go to see Buggy. You guys, I
am so excited for Buggy to be back. Y'all know

(42:05):
what a soft spot I have for this dude. I
really have missed him.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
He looks.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Bananas right now, like he's got It's like he's just
wearing a big snuggie. That's what it kind of looks like.
It's like a red snuggie. It's all one piece and
it's sort of like get it, and it's like a

(42:36):
pillowcase with holes at the wrist and ankles. His hair
has grown down to his chest and is very floppy,
and then there are huge I'm assuming like feathers that
are growing off the sides of You know what, guys,

(42:56):
remind me because I feel like I remember thinking that
it was feathers that were coming off of his hat,
and then at some point I realized that it's his
hair also coming through the sides of the hat. So
is that it is like the thing hanging down that
looks like hair part of the hat, and the thing
that looks like feathers actually is hair. I feel like

(43:20):
there's something here about the hair that I remember getting
wrong in the first place. And I feel like I
must be getting it wrong again. So he gets a
whole like he yells at everybody as soon as you're
finished eating, I want you out there and pillage sheer
hearts content and they all start to hoo hoo hoo.

(43:45):
Buggy the genius Jesture, a warlord slash pirate, the director
of Buggy's delivery. So I'll tell you what, kids. I
had a moment here of being like.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Is this actually Buggy?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Like what how? But yeah, this is a dude that
just failed up every time he tried to tell everybody no,
I didn't do this or no, like his fandom was
so heartily behind him that it was simply unthinkable that

(44:29):
he would fuck up, couldn't consider it. So everything he
did he wound up getting applauded and given a raise.
And as much as I normally hate this shit, Buggy
is just so entertaining. It's just I don't want him
taken out of the equation. I love him. He's just

(44:50):
so much fun. And I feel this way about the
live action actor as well, like he's just he was
such good casting. I do not want him to be
taken out of the show. I don't want there to
be a point where he's dead and we don't see
him anymore. It's just he's fun.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
He's really fun.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Seraphim says, it's his hair of its blue. If I
think it's it's his hair. If it's blue, both things
are blue. So that's what's confusing to me, is like,
is the hair in front and the hair coming out
of the hat? Is does he just have his hair
coming out of two different places or is one just

(45:37):
meant to like mimic the color of his hair for decoration,
because the hair in front has a very distinct zigzag
edge to it, while the hair that's coming out of
the hat is very flowy and looks much more like
you know, anime long hair. But in this show people

(45:59):
can have very weird, distinct edges to their hair that
doesn't happen in life. So I don't know if he's
just got two different sections of hair that he has
styled totally differently, or if one of them isn't hair
at all.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Bernadette says, I really do not understand Buggy's new look.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
What happened.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
It feels like all he did was try and take
everything that he already had going on to eleven and
the big red suit thing. I don't even know. I
don't know what to call this, the snuggie. It's like

(46:38):
I could see that what I'm guessing is happening here,
this is my I actually kind of love this idea,
but I don't know if it's anything We'll see. There
are many people in this world who are much much

(47:00):
bigger and larger than other people, and.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
There's not a whole lot of.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Explanation as to how this happens. Like giants exist, but
there's too many people with like differentials for it to
just be giants interer bred like. It just feels like
in this world, the more powerful and strong you are,
the physically bigger you literally get, which is weird because
then you've got like the straw hats and Moofy's the
same size he always was, so that's not clearly always true.

(47:30):
But what I think is going on is that Buggy
is like a normal sized guy, but he's a warlord
now and he needs to keep up appearances and be intimidating.
So if he uses this thing to cover up his body,

(47:50):
but just projects his hands and his feet out because
he can separate them, it gives the illusion that he
looks huge, huge, and we know that under all of that,
he's got this little body down there and his hands
are like twenty feet upove his neck. But when he's

(48:12):
got this whole onesion, it makes it look like he's
all one body, and so it just makes him feel
like he's more intimidating. And I can understand it, Like
I said, in this universe where people are huge, sometimes

(48:32):
this tactic actually makes sense. I could see why you
do it, Like I think that it's the sort of
thing that really only works here in this context, though
in a fight it doesn't make a lot of sense.
So he can't keep this up forever because he's got to.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Be free to move.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
The advantage of the way that he can split himself
into pieces is that mobility, and obviously this onesie is
not going to alab at. So I'm really wondering, like,
do his men know he's actually a normal sized.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Dude or do they know and they just approve.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Of his posturing like this because they understand that it's
really sort of symbolic because like, even though he's not
actually large, he still has a fucking superpower where he
can cut his hands off. It's that's not not impressive,
you know, like that's not nothing. So maybe they're fine
with that, and he's not really hiding anything. It's just

(49:37):
a sort of mental trick, you know. I don't know,
but I like the idea of it. Florian says, I
think Buggy is a pufferfish. Now he uses his power
to seem bigger, exactly like a pufferfish. Oh my god, Florian,
that is so funny. But yeah, Seraphim says, it's buggy.
If he ends up having to actually fight, he's already screwed.

(50:00):
That's a point I also could see. You know, I'm
saying that the mobility is the advantage here, but if
you've got that onesie, you could use it to like
wrap people up like in a net basically, and he
would be able to have them totally enclosed in fabric,
but his actual body parts that they can damage, like

(50:21):
way out of the way where they couldn't reach any
of them. So maybe there is an advantage to doing
it this way. I don't know, but yeah. So this
is when he gets news that all of the giants
that he's got working for them are all quitting, and

(50:44):
he's like, wait, but they make us the most money
and we're just starting to get busy. Why would they
quit now? And Mo She's like, oh, you're not gonna
leg the answer, and he says, spit it out, and
like you know, we know that it's gonna be they
decided to go and join up with Loofy, which is
going to fucking kill him. So I'm so sorry, guys,

(51:08):
I just realized how long I've taken to talk about
all this stuff. The end of this second episode is
when oh my god, what is his name? The dude
who draws? He draws that little dragon guy, And I

(51:28):
knew this was gonna be bad, but it was like
even worse than I was expecting, because this little dragon
creature is just like trying to talk at first, and
I'm positive that I made this joke before, but it
just very much is giving, like killy killy, Like this
dragon is supposed to help them climb up the side

(51:52):
of the elephant, and honestly, it was like a little
bit puzzling to me that all our guys couldn't find
a way up without doing it this way. But okay,
so they're going up the side of the elephant and

(52:12):
this creature is having so much trouble hanging on. Eventually,
a monkey falls from above and knocks them off. A
Condurero like conjure, says Sarahim. I really wish you had
mentioned the conjure thing way longer ago, because that's helpful.

(52:32):
That will help me. But yeah, they Kinemon and Condreau
fall off along with a monkey, and it's such a
weird thing because they were explaining just before this that
they are looking for their friend who is a ninja,

(52:53):
and everybody gets super excited about a ninja in a
way that's sort of like, you live in a world
with devil fruit powers. Why is the ninja thing so
exciting to you? But anyway, this uh dragon that they
are riding the back of is really really fucking struggling

(53:16):
to get up the side of the elephant. At one point,
Lufi does fall off and he has to use his
rubber ability to maintain his place and hold on to
the dragon. Uh Rianosuke, Rianosuke. I feel like I should
remember how it's pronounced because I just watched this, but

(53:38):
I have forgotten.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I will say that Lufy holding on to the dragon
while falling. I was watching Condro and Quenumn fall going
because Lufi's yelling like what do we do? And I'm like,
use your superpower where your arms stretch out to seventy
five feet long and grab them. Dude, Like, what do
you mean?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
What do we do?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
It's really weird this show sometimes how we act like
Lufy can't do that. There's been multiple times where he
could have just reached out and handled something and we
all act like that's not possible. And it can be
annoying to me the way that it's just like, oh no,
and then it just never comes up. But we have

(54:25):
a guy who has the power that would.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Really be perfect right now.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Actually, it's just that moment in the very very beginning
that all like it was the first time that it
happened that I really noticed, and it stuck with me
in my head when his hat that Shanks gave him
blows away and it's this big dramatic moment of him
chasing after the hat, and it's like, obviously the point

(54:51):
is dramatically speaking to emphasize to us how important the
hat is, but he could literally have just reached out
and grabbed it, and we just don't do that, and
it feels very silly. So anyway, everybody is like trying
to cheer on this dragon because he has almost lost
his footing due to Loofy pulling him backward. And then

(55:14):
finally they all begin to cheer him on and try
and be as encouraging as they can because he's doing his.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Best and.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Ray Re Youno Sky, that's how they're saying it in
the dub Re Youno ska Re you know sk. The
The part of this that I really enjoyed was everybody
who was being mean to him at first turning around
and being like, he's doing his best, be encouraging. I however,

(55:50):
had a really hard time Rhyuno Sky is doing his best,
but he should. He didn't have to be here, and
this whole thing that that is being demanded of him
is super un and he's like crying.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
A lot of the time.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
And I just really was so so like having a
hard time with this. And then eventually they get to
the top, everybody is cheering rianoske is and I love
the fact that, like Robin, every time the camera turns
to her, she just goes so cute over and over again.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
That was a fun bit.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
I actually really liked that. But then when they get
to the top and everybody's cheering him on, and he's
like got a happy smile on his face. She says, oh, no,
you're changing back, and everybody else who had been cheering
him turns around and they start to see him begin
to vanish as the drawing of him reappears on the ground,

(56:46):
and they all get very choked up. And I would
be a liar if I didn't say I got so
choked up at this point, guys, it was so sad Rianoske.
Justice for Rinoske. He didn't ask to be here. All
he was used for was the super hard job, and

(57:07):
then he has to go back to being a drawing. Unfair. Unfair.
I don't care for it. He deserves a life of
ease and pleasure. Renoske should be brought back, just so
that he can frolic in the streams and enjoy himself
and not have to work another day in his life.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
All that work.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
That should be the end of the work that is
demanded of him. And there is a wonderful moment where
we see the sun and the clouds streak before and
everybody's standing there crying, and then all of a sudden,
the camera cuts away to law and Zorro going, this
is dumb. It's just a crappy drawing. I was so

(57:50):
teared up. And then it cuts to them and I laughed,
I really did. It was just so unexpected. I didn't
even think to ask, like where's Ooro and Trafalgar, like,
didn't even think, And of course they'd react this way.
They would not care. It was very well done. Show
some respect, you jerk. You can at least thank him

(58:12):
for bringing us all this way. Zoro replies with, like, well,
we need to stay alert because we don't know where
we fucking are, and Usup is like, well, you have
a point, but still so eventually everybody like starts to
move forward and be very involved in their new setting,

(58:34):
and us Up shares a little bit of frustration at
the fact that they were able to forget their fallen friend,
their fallen comrade so easily.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Uh, I do like that.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I thought this is all a good bit. So it's
such a weird place because there's tons of buildings and
there's you know, it's there's a lot of ruins are
being like grown over with moss, but like there's some

(59:04):
wooden structures that still seem like they're pretty much. They're
not rotting or falling away. The moss doesn't seem so
much a product of neglect so much as like this
is a humid environment, you know. And they're going through
all of the buildings and they're looking like through all

(59:25):
of the woods, and they can't find any people. And
they reach this gate and the gate has been knocked
down somehow by force. It's clear the hinges are still
on the sides, but the gates are down that something
just shoved them, and the trail itself is all warped

(59:51):
ahead of them. No normal animal could have made a
path this wide. And they start to hear something they're
talking about, like Sanjy's group, and whether or not they're okay.
We cut to Robin for a second, who's just looking
around and noticing that there are flowers growing in weird

(01:00:15):
places here, which I feel like must be something that
we're gonna hear more about. It didn't I didn't notice it,
you know, but I feel like this is what do
they call that Chekhov's So let's see. Then we have
the girl who's watching through the binoculars, and this is
the little half animal girl that we saw when we

(01:00:35):
were with the straw hats earlier, and she says, the lesser.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Minx waltz right through the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Gate, which I guess is what they call humans, and
she says maybe they beat him. And her name is Carrot,
as we find out, which is fantastic. Eventually, we get
by this huge alligator who is being uh steered by

(01:01:09):
a fox like creature on his back, and Carrot, who
has just about to uh was just about to attack
the group, gets yelled at and told like desist basically
and oosup looks up. Of course, we get a zoom
in on her tits and he says, I know those clothes,

(01:01:32):
and there's NAMMY's bikini top and he's like, wait a second,
but that's not not me. And now we've got the
question of like, but is it though, because I feel
like it is not me. Maybe she got turned into
an animal by this girl. Maybe that's our power. I

(01:01:53):
don't know, but we'll see. I have to wrap this
one up, guys, because I'm over time, so I really
got to hurry it along. But yeah, wild opening real weird.
So I guess we will have to see appreciate all
of you so much, and I will be seeing you
tomorrow at two thirty with a new episode until then

(01:02:17):
to the lou Motherfuckers, that was an unspoiled network podcast.
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