September 24, 2025 • 61 mins
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These installments are the ones where we finally find out the details on how Big Mom's power works, and we get to meet her ex-husband. I am very much wondering what landed him here in the forest. Meanwhile, Brook & Pedro are doing recon.
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Thank you very much to Bernadette for commissioning this episode!
These installments are the ones where we finally find out the details on how Big Mom's power works, and we get to meet her ex-husband. I am very much wondering what landed him here in the forest. Meanwhile, Brook & Pedro are doing recon.
Thanks so much for listening, and I will see you soon with a new episode!
Wanna talk spoilers? Join the Discord! https://discord.gg/rEF2KfZxfV
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is an unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
covering one piece episodes seven ninety five and seven ninety six,
A Giant Ambition, Big Mom and Caesar and the Land
(00:23):
of Souls Mom's fatal ability. In this episode, we find
out how Big Mom's power works partially. And I will
tell you what, my friends, this is wild. I mean,
does it get more opie than literally controlling people's souls
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and life force? I think not. Welcome to spoil Me,
(01:10):
Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you
very much to Bernadette for commissioning this episode, and I
wanted to offer a correction because it was Bernadette who
commissioned the previous episode and I gave credit to Florian.
I am used to looking at my calendar for whoever
is the person commissioning it, and there is a separate
(01:33):
spreadsheet that Florian gives me, and I I didn't realize, like,
I don't know why I never noticed it, but that
the names of the people I'm actually meant to credit
are on there. So I have to keep on looking
at that and try and remember that. Sorry about it, Bernadette,
I hope you know I appreciate you. I just want
(01:57):
to like really quickly mention that I I'm having like
either a cold or allergy attack. Excuse me, So I
think this may happen occasionally during the episode, or I
may sneeze out of nowhere. Apologies ahead of time. It
is h I'm feeling a lot better than I did
(02:20):
over the weekend. So that's a promising sign. So yeah, guys,
this is a truly I mean, it's so fun in
a way what Mom has chosen to do here. I
just really want to like take a moment and admire
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the fact that what Big Mom is doing. And look,
it may be later on that we find out like
a different thing, but for now, what Big Mom is
doing is taxing everybody who lives in her domain by
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taking a little bit of their soul, their life force,
and putting it into inanimate objects around the islands and
bringing them to life. Now, if you were just gonna
be real basic about this, what would you do? You
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would have this person taking pieces of folks life force
for themselves. You would have them doing something to keep
themselves alive, right, And instead she's like, no, let me
make my island full of like a live things. I
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can't help but love that, Like it's just such a
weird and you know, maybe that she can't take people's
life force for herself, it might not go with the fruit,
but I mean, this is all Oda's idea, and if
he put that limitation on it, that's fun. Also, like,
either way, this is just a very different thing than
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what I have seen with a lot of villains who
can take life forces. Normally it's purely for their own
either immortality or for them to continue looking young. Very
much giving the Sanderson's sisters because they put the sister
under that spell and then suck the life off of
her so that they become young again kind of thing.
(04:38):
And this is just like it's so much more amusing.
It's so much more childish, but in a way that
I approve of. What an interesting idea. Sorry, Sarah, Fhim says,
so far you've seen a Yanka with the power to
suck out your soul and one who could cause earthquakes.
(05:00):
Now what could the rest have? I'm sorry, Sarah, and
Janko is that I feel like like there's definitely terminology
that I think just doesn't get used in the dubs,
so I don't remember it. Florian says it is where
when we make group preorders. Oh the spreadsheet, gotcha? Yes,
(05:22):
So okay, let's back this up. It's only two episodes
this time, which makes sense because of like the amount
of info dumping that we are going to be getting. First,
I want to talk about I'm just going to sort
of talk about Brooke and Pedro altogether here, because there's
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not a lot going on with them. Pretty much. The
way that things are set up is the two of
them are just observing how much information the enemy already
has and panicking. And there's that, and there's also what's
(06:08):
going on with Jimbei. So the whole thing with Jimbay
is sort of unclear. The like, what we're seeing is
the newspaper circulating a story that we don't actually get
to read explicitly what the story says. We get everybody's
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reactions to it as they're reading it. But it's sort
of odd and I don't know if this is like
a mechanic of the way the story is told in general,
if it's a result of the dub or what. But
there's like a bunch of people all standing around with
the newspaper as if they're all reading the same story,
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but then one of them will say something out loud
and the others react like they had no idea, despite
that they are all apparently working with like the same
information source here. So whatever the case, it's just, you know,
they've they've got to tell us somehow, and it's just
an exposition tactic, I guess, but it feels sort of
(07:14):
awkward in the moment, I will say. So. The thing
that they keep talking about is that Jimbei has uh
betrayed Big Mom. It's sort of odd, y'all because like
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there's not really anything specific about the consequences of this,
and it's just about the fact that he betrayed her,
which I don't It doesn't get into anything specific like
who he's working for now or why he betrayed her
or anything. It just seems like merely the fact that
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he has left her ranks is enough to be full
front page news. And it's a little bit mystifying that
this would be front page it's just not there's not
really enough information here. You know, we don't find out
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if he's been punished somehow, you know, what the result
was of that wheel that he he turned. It's generally
just to let us know that he's out of her
employ and that there were like, you know, our friends
didn't know that he was under her employ And at
(08:41):
this point it feels like, all right, well, I think
I'm supposed to be like, if things are going the
way that I am, I think meant to take it.
If the author were to have his d brothers, I
think it's a to be that I'm worried now for
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Jimbay's life, but I'm not at all. It just feels
like we're burying a lead here that there's something much
more interesting going on and we're not being given that
information or the newspaper couldn't get a hold of it,
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and so we're getting like the most nothing story, you know.
So anyway, it just it was an odd It just
felt odd to me, you know. It just seemed like
this isn't this isn't really anything, is it? You know?
(09:45):
And sorry? Uh, Sarafin says the four Emperors, Oh oh,
Yanko's okay. That is a major dub change issue. Sarah
fam Florian says, I think this is the local news
and that's why it is front page. Okay. Well, regardless,
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like I said, we don't get any further information about
what's actually going on with him. We just get, Hey,
there's you know this, this person who is fairly powerful
and popular has decided to turn his back on Big
Mom in a very sort of like can you believe
the nerve sort of way. And it's funny because like
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everybody is reacting as if the fact that he is
making this choice makes him the biggest loser alive. And
I sort of was here for that energy of just
everybody being like he had it made. Why is he
being so fucking stupid about this? You guys know that, Like,
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for myself, I'm not really that into Jembay. I feel
like there's nothing wrong with him exactly. It's simply that
he's got no discernible personality that I can see beyond
being earnest about everything, which really isn't adequate. Maybe we
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just haven't gotten to know him well enough. But I
would argue that if we're trying to make me care
about what's happened to him, it's just not really working.
I'm just, of course certain that he's fine, and I'm
guessing he's probably going to wind up with Lufy's crew
in the end, and I just don't really want him
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to because I don't like find him that interesting, and
I feel like we already have enough dudes on the crew,
and I would like a woman fighter character to be
added instead, and also somebody who's got a little bit
more personality. But you know, honestly, I've said the crew
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is like fairly big now, so I would be okay
if we just left it where it is. That would
be fine with me. I don't know. So anyway, back
to Brooke and Pedro, the whole thing between the two
of them, they're like prowling the island with their little disguises.
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And it's so funny to me Brooks disguise because he's
got this like high collared jacket, but the collar is
open in the front so you can still see like
the spinal column if you look closely enough. And then
he's got a sort of scarf at the bottom of
his face and then the big hat at the top
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so that you can just see his eyes and like
the top of his nose hole. And it's just very
funny because like I could see it sort of passing
at a quick glance, but if you closely at all,
he looks even free here than he normally does, I
would argue, and I find it very entertaining. Whoever animated
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this like picked out how this was going to be done.
I like it, I approve, and he sorry. Sarah him
Is in the chat says, wonder how much of the
jimmey issue is a DUB issue. A lot of his
personality and the stuff around him is meant to be
kind of yakuza bass or Yakuza. It's yakuza, right, Maybe
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that's part of the problem. I don't know. It's like
you guys have to always remind me of that. So
I would say, either that is not really done successfully
in general, or it just isn't working in the dub
because it never is giving that for me at all,
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not even a little bit, not even remotely. The only
time that ever comes up is when y'all tell me,
and even then it just kind of explains a decision,
but it's still not evident in his behavior or in
the way he speaks. It just doesn't feel like that's present.
(14:22):
So yeah, it might be might be a DUB thing.
But and even so I would argue, like, oh, so
he's supposed to be kind of like based on any
person in the Yakuza that's not enough of a personality
though either, you know, it just feels like that's that's
a category he belongs in. But that's not enough for
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a person who's going to be joining the crew. That's
enough for a side character that we meet for a
few episodes, but if we're going to have him be
more of a thing, that's just really inadequate in any case. Regardless,
So this h the whole thing between them is that
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they are watching through the window. They're passing by a
little I guess, like, what do you call couturier? Is
that what you would call a place where they make
like couture and the tailors is as simple as a tailor's.
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I was almost thinking that the two of them have
a much more charitable interpretation than I did at first.
Their interpretation, I think is correct. Just for the record,
I don't think that I was right, but I definitely
had a moment of oh my god, putting lied to them,
this was all a scam. She's telling them, oh, yeah, yeah,
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I'll meet you at the beach with Sanji. Don't worry,
and then she immediately goes and like gets outfitted for
her wedding trousseau because she is not giving up Sonji.
She is not meeting there, and she to get on
with planning her dope wedding in peace. And again I
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do not think that I am correct, but that was
my instinctive response initially when they're like, but why is
she here, like she should be at the beach, I
was like, Oh, she's betraying you. But then I think
it's Pedro who says she must be having trouble getting
away from all of her attendants, and based on the
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way that the scene goes, I think he's right, because
it's just like she's literally surrounded by women all staring
straight at her, all holding gowns that they want her
to try on. Like the thing that she is involved
in here is very, very involved, and there isn't a
good opportunity to slip away that nobody would notice her.
Even if there were an escape from the dressing room,
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if she stepped in there, they would be talking to
her through the dressing room door kind of thing. You know,
There's just no way. And then we have like overseeing
this whole thing the egg man h And it was
very fun, guys, because I was watching this episode with
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my husband, who you know, he doesn't watch the show
with me almost ever, So whenever he pops in and
sits with me to watch for a little bit, it's
always like it's been like ten weeks since the last
time he's seen it, and so the characters he's like
doesn't know who they are, and he was really taken
aback by this French accent and everything, and it made
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me appreciate it afresh. Sarahim says the do I trust
putting or not debate is the best part about a
first time reaction to this part of the arc. Yeah, Like,
for the record, if it turned out that Pudding was
betraying them, that she didn't intend to give up Sanji,
I would really be delighted by that. Actually, I would
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find that very fun. But I don't want that, not really.
I do want her to be working with them and
on their side, only for Sangy's sake. But like I said,
I am personally I would also be very good with
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it if she were betraying them. It's just like for
the sake of things going the way that I would
like them to go. I think it's kind of more
fun if she is trying to help. But all of
the wedding stuff just keeps getting in the way of
her escape, because that is just like low key what
planning a wedding is like. If anybody out there listening
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has planned a wedding, you fucking know it will have
you buy the throat until it's over and even after
a little bit, and it's full of weird like things
that you wouldn't think of that have to get done,
that have to get chosen, selected, whatever, so that every
time that you kind of feel that a certain portion
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of it is over all of a sudden, there will
be somebody like emailing you, going, okay, well we need
you to decide between these four blank and they'll send
you pictures or they'll send you a link to a
listing or whatever. And it's just endless. And that would
be sort of funny if she's like genuinely sincerely trying
(19:22):
to help, but also I cannot get away. Oh my god,
every time you know, I would buy it, I would
like that. So anyway, this whole thing is really really
like it's kind of extra fun because we have the
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eggman overseeing this and stressing how important it all is,
YadA YadA, and then he is drawn outside by a
couple of those little tiny soldiers who I don't even
know what to call them. I feel like just calling
them soldiers doesn't feel adequate because they kind of are
giving like Munchkins from Wizard of Oz because they are
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so short and they have this very specific costume, even
more than Munchkins. The Munchkins is the short thing. But
they also are reminding me of the witches. Soldiers. Oh oh,
I don't remember what those guys are called, but you
know what I'm talking about, Sarahim says, Chess soldiers. Okay,
(20:32):
excuse me, that's right, because I remember noticing that their
helmets make them look like literal ponds, so okay, that
makes sense. But they're coming into report to the Eggman
about what they know so far of what's happening, and
I fell out because it's basically Pedro and Brooke listening
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in and finding out that these folks know everything, everything
that they thought they had arrived in secret and flown
under the radar, and instead every move they've made has
been noted and they do not know how, and it's
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mentioned like who could have been watching us? And we
see like one of the flowers like smirking and turning
its head so clearly it's just all of the countryside
is filled with spies, and I don't know if there
is supposed to be a kind of like I'm curious
(21:43):
about the logistics of the system, surprising no one. Logistics
are always my freakin' you know what I'm saying. But
I kept thinking about the way that the game of
telephone works with these sorts of spies. Are they actually
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physically talking to one another and it just goes like
actual the game of telephone down the line? Is there
like a sort of telepathic element to this where one
of them sees it and it just can like report
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to Big Mom through its mind somehow is it actual traveling?
You know, a flower sees something and that flower kind
of runs off because as we've seen, they can move around.
So there's a lot of questions for me in regard
to how all the news gets about. And I'm just
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curious about it because I feel like either decision has
some advantages and disadvantages regarding like functionality and efficiency and whatever.
And if it's a telepathic thing, that's a real bummer
for our people because that's like as fast as the
news can travel pretty much, that's you don't get faster
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than that, and it is almost the equivalent of like
every inch of a place being covered in security cameras
with one person in the room looking at all of
the screens. I'm so sorry, guys, I don't know what
is going on, Oh, Sarah em says. My guess would
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be they call on transponder snails, so literal telephone a
transponder snail, Like literally didn't even occur to me. That
is so funny. I don't know why I didn't even
think of that, but the DOI all right, yeah, that
makes sense, that definitely makes sense. So I'm sorry, guys.
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This is just really funny to me because it's like
the way that they are acting as they're listening in
and realizing that these guys know everything, and then this
person produces a pair of posters of each of them
and is like, and then here are the other guys
that we need to deal with, and they're just like,
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oh my god, how did they know about us? And
I just found it really funny, like being right there
thinking you're being slick and then finding out that they
fucking know about you. They have your photo, it's already
likely in circulation. Like there's just so much about it
that I find genuinely funny, and their reactions, like the
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way they're animated is also really fun. So it's a
good thing that Brooke has as elaborate a costume on
as he does. But uh, I'm not sure if that's
like how much that's really going to help, you know.
So I'm jumping around here just to make sure that
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I'm not missing any thing because I want to. There's
a makeshift poster for Carrot, which is honestly probably better
drawn than the one for Soanji. At least she it
looks closer to her, you know. I'm trying to see
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if the posters for Pedro and Brooke actually do include there. Okay,
Pedro's includes his hat, but Brooks doesn't, so Brooke is
having a little bit better luck. We also find out
too that there is a history between him and Eggman,
(25:44):
that they know each other from the past somehow, and I,
I just really I can't imagine, you know, it makes
it sound like this is a romantic history, and I
know that that is like likely unintentional. You know that
(26:08):
that is my silly brain doing what it does in
terms of like fanfic and whatnot. I get it that
I am not on point here at all, and that
it's not going to be that. But there is just
something about the way that they are so sort of
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unwilling to talk about it that it feels like, you know,
a really painful breakup. That's just the vibe it's giving
to me of like, look, I just I don't even
want to talk about it, you know I would just
And so that's kind of what is going to be
in my head. And just so you guys are aware,
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I don't intend to change that, no matter what the
actual canon tells me, I am going to no matter what,
I'm going to translate everything into this was because the
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two of them were involved with each other romantically, and
they're using what's the word, I want euphemisms to just
kind of dodge what everybody like they're they're making a
little bit of a code because they know what happened.
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And so that's how I'm going to see it, And
I just want you guys to be prepared for everything
that happens with them to be filtered through this assumption
on my part. And I don't apologize. I think it
will be funny. I think it will uh likely add
(27:52):
a bit of interest to things, to be honest, and
I am looking forward to it. Ever it is, I'm
gonna assign some kind of like other weird story and yeah,
I'm just looking forward to it. So I thought I
would let you let you all know. So all right,
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that's pretty much them. I think we just leave them
wondering what they're going to do because they just weren't
prepared for the information to be to have spread this quickly.
And then we go to this scene with Capone and
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Peckham's guys. So Capone's got a baby. I really this baby,
what a choice. It's got like the sort of five
(29:00):
o'clock shadows stubble on its face as Capone does. The
whole thing is really something, and it's crying, and it
starts out kind of fun because Capone's like, shut up,
your little monster, you know, and then he becomes unexpectedly
very affectionate with this little kid, and it was honestly adorable.
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Like I was just sort of not prepared for that
to be a whole thing, but there it is. And
Peckham's is here, uh, perched on the edge of a
cliff with his whole body trust up and he's got
his his wrists, I think bound behind him, if I'm
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not mistaken, and Beij makes some comment about how like, ah,
my son's life is just starting and yours has come
into a clone, you know that this whole thing, and
he says something like it's it is almost like one
of those high art like modern you know, like trying
(30:13):
to make it seem like isn't this poetic? And I
was like, it really isn't. There just happens to be
a baby present, Like these things don't even really have
anything to do with one another, my guy, but whatever,
it's totally fine. So the only thing he says like,
do you have any last words? And we get a replay,
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of course of Peckham's confrontation with him last time where
he refused to turn on the straw hats because they
saved his people, YadA YadA, and he Peckham's says to
him just before he gets shot and like thrown off
the edge, he gets out the words you don't know
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what you're getting too with mama or big mom. And
I was surprised because it felt like when we saw
him and our friends in the previous like in the
scene where we're first coming to the Island. It sounded
to me, I'm so sorry everybody, like he was sort
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of espousing Big Mom's philosophy and saying, you know, she
just wants everybody to be equal, and it felt sincere
as he was saying it. And I don't know if
you just thought we're being spied on, and so I
have to say that, which like it very well. Maybe
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if you're aware how her power works and you know
that all of the things around that are watching are
going to tell her what they see, maybe that's the
best way to go actually, you know, but it definitely here,
like he's got a whole different energy to him and
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is very much Hey, you seem to think that you
know what's going on and you don't and I do,
and like you're making a mistake here, And I am
assuming that it's about what we find out is going
on later with Big Mom and Caesar Clown, but I
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don't know it maybe something like completely other as well.
I don't know. So the Peckham's winds up getting shot
and goes off the edge of the cliff, and we
see all of these sharks like making for him immediately,
and it's sort of taken as like a given that
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he is now dead, but I am not so sure.
I almost I'm like, is it possible that those were
like fishmen, that they look like sharks from far away,
from far above, but actually these dudes were all running
(33:14):
in to like rescue him. You know, I don't know,
but I have a hard time believing Peckham's is really
dead because it's just the way the show works, and
nobody's dead unless you see a body, and even if
you see a body, like a lot of times, still
not even then. So we'll see, I guess, but uh, yeah,
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for now, I don't buy it. I'll go on record
as saying that I, you guys, this the whole thing
with Beija and his kid. I genuinely don't know where
we're going with this, like how how relevant this is
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going to be? But I want a side plot only
about Beij's home life, the way things work with his
wife and child. Is this his first kid? I think
it must be. Yeah, I don't know, y'all, but I am.
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There's just something so off putting, but in a way
that I find fascinating, like a train wreck about them
as a familial unit. That makes me really interested despite myself,
and you know, I I would I wouldn't mind, honestly,
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like see a series of short stories that were only
kind of the lives of some of the sidekicks in
one piece where it's not like it's not really furthering
the plot, it's not necessarily even giving us information that
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is particularly valuable in any way. It's just simply really
fun and weird, and you know it's it adds an
extra layer of flavor if you know it. That's really
that's all I need. I'm good otherwise. So I just sorry, guys,
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I just find this whole thing very distracting, and I
find it funny. Beije is just such a weird I'm annoyed.
First of all, let me say that I'm calling him
beij and I know that that's what he's called in
the show, and so it's appropriate that I call him
this also, But I just want to say that I
don't like that they have chosen to call him that
when Capone is right there and so much more memorable.
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And I resent the fact that it has gotten enough
in my head now that I'm doing it too. I
don't like it. I just I just don't like it.
So anyway, sorry. Uh. In the in the chat, Saraphim says,
on the plus side, there's enough weird shit in this
(36:10):
kingdom that a walking skill and said wouldn't be all
that odd, one would think. But people still react to
Brooke like this. This is the thing about one Piece,
is that there are tons of things that are like
you've seen weirder, but people still have to kind of
have a reaction anyway. And I'll point out, like Loofy
(36:30):
having to remind everybody that we are walking around with
talking animals right now after they react weirdly to like
a walking talking alligator. This is one piece. If the
death wasn't accompanied by five minutes worth of flashbacks with
mother se playing over them, it's logical to assume they
aren't dead. Is Mother see like a piece of music?
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Is that That's what I'm imagining? Florian says, well, there
there are the cover stories. We could send you some
new ones. Oh I forgot about those are those like
the Sidekick, like the Baddies, the Sidekick Baddies. I just
want to stress that that is what I mean, is
like the people that are not that are just weirdo
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bad guys that you don't you know. Saraphim says, yeah,
it's the dad piano. Hm. The first one was about
Buggy ooh was it? I don't remember now, Florin, I'm sorry,
Oh sad piano? Got it? Okay, got it? Got that.
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I should have known that was a typo, but I
was like, what I thought? This was just more lore
that I didn't know. Who knows? So okay, okay, okay,
let me let me get back on track here. So
let's go to Lufy, who this is extremely funny to me. Guys.
Lufy is in the Seducing Woods, and he is really
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getting mad because he keeps seeing his friends, and his
friends keep running away from him, and he doesn't understand
why or what they're doing and decides that he is
going to catch them. The first time that he catches
any of them, it's Sanji, who is just like hissing
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and spitting at Loufy and just seems very much like
a rabid animal, and Lufy understandably is just sort of like, bro,
what is going on? Until another sangie suddenly turns up
and now he's like, okay, okay, hold on, what the
fuck is happening? And we kind of like cut from
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that moment and then when we come back, Loufy has
just been capturing and collecting all of the friends that
he has in the woods and bound them up and
is tossing them in a pile in front of that
giant dude. And you guys, I wasn't ready for this,
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and I should have seen that this joke was coming.
But at one point, Nammy turns and is just like,
what the hell, let me out of these restraints and
he's like, oh my god, this one can talk and
she's like, yeah, I can. He's like she sounds just
like the real Nobby and she's like, because I am
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the Oh my god. And again I should have seen
it coming, but I didn't, and I started cracking up.
The whole idea that like he just assumed. You know,
it doesn't make any sense because why would she not
have spoken up already? But it doesn't matter, because it's
just for the joke and it's very it hit and
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the two of them being right in front of this
giant dude. Nanny finally turns to that guy and is like, Okay, man,
what the fuck because you've been watching this the whole
time and you didn't say shit to anybody, so you
have got to be involved somehow, like, please be so
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for real right now, you're in it? What is happening?
And he says that he won't tell them anything until
they get him a drink of juice. And I really
thought that we were getting that side quest. We don't.
He like, the deal that Lufy makes is maybe we'll
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go get it for you once we get what we want,
and also mentions I wouldn't mind having some juice myself.
It actually sounds pretty good. I was kind of gratified
that that quest is put off for a minute so
that we can spend this time I'm here instead just
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talking and getting information, because, like I said, I just
didn't think that was happening. So this is this dude.
Like eventually he tells them how he once was the
husband of Big Mom, but it's like not really a
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surprise because he keeps calling her Lulu or something like that.
He keeps calling her by her name rather than Big
Mom and then correcting himself and then being like and
then she you know, having to kind of back up.
And it's a little funny because like in the moment
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it's giving, but you guys, I have to hide the
fact that I know her because you can't for some
reason know that information. But then he does wind up
telling them the truth anyway, and I was like, this
seems like you could have just said after all, and
I don't know, so, oh my god, sorry, Seraphim's Seraphim
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is really up against some some autocorrect and typeos today, Lynn, Lynn,
thank you. And so I'm curious, like exactly I'm gonna
jump ahead to that point where he finds this out
or he tells them how all of this works. But
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we find out about the the manipulation of souls and
the fact that like living here, everybody is like living
this wonderful life, but they are paying a price for it.
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And I think he says in total, every six years,
it's like the equivalent of a year of their life
that they have given away. Some math like that. I'm
not even totally sure, but honestly, y'all, I get it.
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You know, Like it's hard. It's hard for me to
be mad that people are willing to make this compromise.
It just seems like a pretty dope place to live.
And frankly, a lot of this universe is a trash fire.
(43:48):
You know, you have got a lot wrong in this
world and so being somewhere that's like all like not
to your island, but the surrounding islands also are managed
by somebody super powerful, and there is plentiful resources and
(44:12):
everything is just being handled. I understand it's a fucked
up bargain to make, but I really can't be all
that mad about it. And there's a part of me
that's just like, yeah, that's fair, you know. And I
know that probably that's very revealing, and I'm sounding extremely
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American right now, so I will acknowledge that. But I just,
you know, shit's bad out here, y'all, and I can't
help but feel sometimes like we're we're it's a worse
deal that we've actually got in the real world. Like
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if we are honest with what is demanded of us
in terms of how we live and our productivity and
the level of like healthcare that we are afforded in
the United States specifically, we aren't exactly not trading years
of our lives for how we live anyway, you know,
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we are actively encouraged not to take care of ourselves
the way that we should for the sake of our
employer's productivity and whatnot. And it's difficult for me, Like,
there has been so much more research done about how
much rest and sleep affect everything about your quality of life.
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And it's disturbing to realize the way that we have
normalized going around and like living our lives chronically sleep
deprived and priding ourselves on not resting enough, and that
we have constructed a society in which asking for help
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is seen as somehow like capitulating to like failure and
admitting that you aren't capable, when actually our society is
as it is right now, is sort of new. It
used to be that you dependent on everyone around you anyway,
and we've just kind of restructured and isolated folks in
(46:29):
such a way that we've grown to believe we shouldn't
need help. So anyway, all this to say, I don't
think that this deal people are making is out of
the question or even that much worse than what we've
got going on now. So this whole thing is you know,
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him explaining to them the way that this works and
how these pieces of soul are put into all of
the what's the word inanimate objects and things around them,
and they begin to look around and realize that the
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entire forest that they are surrounded by it's all an enemy,
it's all like here to take them down. That they
are so hopelessly outnumbered. Honestly, it is a pretty like
jarring image to see this, the way that it's this
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tiny group and the trees around them are looming in
and look very threatening, even the flowers. And I'm still
curious about exactly how this works, but I'm assuming that
like once Big Mom takes your soul and puts it
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into one of these, that she basically gets total control
over it. Unless it's supposed to be that the folks
who give up the fraction of their souls that they
are so compliant with Big Mom that that piece of
their soul does whatever she asks as like a matter
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of course because it matches with the personality that it
was originally taken from. I don't know, I'm just you know,
I'm just thinking out loud here in terms of like
how all this would work, because I they all seem
to be extremely on board with whatever the current plan is,
(48:45):
and I uh, I don't know, it's hard. It's just
it's hard for me to be mad at these bits
of souls, like they have a good thing going and
here comes some folks that might mess that up for them.
And it does make some sense to me why they
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would be willing to throw down on Big Mom's behalf.
I can't help but understand that. So yeah, anyway, I
I want to jump over to the which Brulai that
they wind up, you know, up against. It turns out
(49:28):
that Brulas has this whole thing with a mirror, she
ate the mirror mirror fruit, and so she's able to
use this mirror as a weapon. And it's not just
like I am able to because like I'm getting sort
(49:50):
of ahead of myself, but eventually Carrot is fighting her.
She holds up the mirror and Carrot jumps into it
intentionally and gets trapped in it. Which that for me,
the idea of like being not just captured, Because if
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you're captured, but you're in your own body in a
normal like way, you know, then you've got a modicum
of control in that situation. You could find a way
to break out, you could find a way to you know,
reason with them whatever. There's all kinds of ways. But
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when you are in a magical object that somebody else controls,
now it's a completely different kettle of fish. And I
hate it. Now we've got you know, like, who knows
if there's any expiration day I'm being stuck in there.
She could literally just like maybe stick that mirror in
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a closet somewhere and you'll be forgotten forever. I don't
know if the mirror mirror fruit means that it's just
this one mirror that is hers that she can use
this way, or if it's supposed to be that, like
she can can enchant any mirror to do what she
wants it to do. But either way, it just feels
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for me like there's something particularly creepy about this ability
in a good way. I like it just for the record,
and I am just really interested in where all this
is gonna wind up going, because our friends are I mean,
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Carot's you know, she in there, She in there, And
here's na me all by herself now, and I'm trying
to remember if we actually find out what happened to
everybody else, because we know that Chopper took one of
his rumble balls and became huge, and the Witch reacts brule,
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She's very much like, oh shit, I mean, already you
were talking reindeer, which was sort of dope, but now
you have become this thing. You're kind of rad actually,
aren't you. And I couldn't help but just be I look,
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we all know that I have a problem with wanting
like the approval of superiors and authority figures and whatever.
That's a given. I have always been a big fan
of the I am your enemy, but I can't help
be impressed by but be impressed by you. And so
(52:58):
especially because it's Chopper who is experiencing this, Chopper is
so overlooked by so many people. I mean, his fringing,
his bounty is like five berries or something incredibly insulting.
And so I won't lie. Guys. When she was impressed
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with him at this juncture, I was very like, see,
thank you. Oh finally somebody appreciates him, you know, And
I know, I know, I know, but I can't help it.
It's just I want somebody to see how useful and
(53:41):
great he is. And it's just a very probably one
would consider it toxic mindset to have, but you know, like,
oh well, so anyway, this is like all of this
is the story is being told to us, like when
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we're seeing Bruet and she's informing us about how things
work in big mom's world. She is in a flashback
and Nammy is looking up and being just like attacked
by all of these There's like flowers jumping on her,
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and one of them jumps on her stomach and is
moving in this way that I think is supposed to
suggest that it's trying to bite her. It doesn't seem
to succeed though, it's just sort of like attempting to
do it. And Chopper is the one who's like, all right, look,
this is serious. They work for big moms, so we
can't take this lightly. I'm gonna hold them off. You
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have got to go tell Loofy and let him know
what's happening. And so he is still fighting her when
Nami runs away, and this is when she's like, where
did Chopper go? And Carrot and this dude. I can't
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get over this giant guy because he's got this like
rough under his neck and everything, and I don't know
if it's that he's buried or if it's that he's
like actually cut into pieces or what. Yeah, So trying
to find the spot here. Oh yeah, I forgot about
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this aspect as well. So first of all, everything that's
been animated by these bits of by these bits of
spirit are called homies. I don't I don't know if
this is just like a dub thing or if Oda
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knew and sort of did this on purpose, But I
just want to register how fucking funny that is to me.
I'm so sorry, really, okay, you know what, I'm not
mad about it. Guys, do you remember homies? The little
like dudes that you would put a nickel into the machine.
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They would come in those little eggs and you could
get them out of like the vending machine, things like
a gumball basically, and they were called homies and they
were all like little little dudes. I there is something
about these being named the same way that tickled me
a lot. I found that shit very very funny. And
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uh yeah, I it's just it's great and I just
never change it. Personally, I love it. But then the
other thing that he mentions is, uh, this collection and
distribution of Lifespan is operated by Big Mom's incarnations that
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are made up of her own soul. And we see
these little dudes that are sort of shaped like a
cartoon ghost, but they're black instead of white, and they
have white eyes. Pretty spooky looking, well done in my opinion.
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I love this so much. I really I don't know
exactly how to what to expect from them in terms
of their capabilities, but the fact that she can do
this with her own soul was something that I had
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never considered. And it doesn't seem that she doesn't have
to put those pieces into any other vessel. They can
just function on their own, which is bonkers, Like what, how,
oh how corporeal are they? It seems like probably she
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just uses them for this task because they aren't corporeal,
and so they are able to touch the pieces of
soul which also are not corporeal. So that's sort of
what I'm trusting is going on with it. But I
might be wrong, Like I don't know, you know, it
just I was very very fascinated by this whole idea
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and concept, and for myself, the fact that she can
do this to her own soul is it's such a
neat idea that I don't know if I would have
thought of, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know.
I am interested and appalled, I guess is my reaction,
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and something that probably could be quoted for a lot
of this show is just simply interested and appalled and
I acknowledge this, So all right, I'm out of time.
I think I've talked about pretty much everything. I'm just
trying to scrub through real quick to make sure. Oh
oh right, Brule uses her ability to turn normal animals
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into decoy people to throw you off. So apparently this
is a function of having eaten or the yeah, eaten
the mirror mirror fruit is that she can like create
mirror images of you or people. It's unclear. I'm assuming
that she's like met Sanji and so that's how she
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does it. Like probably she has to have seen you
in order to make a copy of you. I'm imagining
that's like a requirement. But all of these these so
called friends that Lufy has been gathering up and putting
into a pile are just regular like forest creatures that
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are made to look like mirror images. But they're just animals.
So they're all very like valid in their anger toward
him for capturing them, because you know, it's just imagine
like capturing a bunch of raccoons and then just like
tying them up and throwing them in a pile on
top of each other. Yeah, you'd be pissed. You'd be
(01:00:26):
very annoyed by it, so fair. All right, guys, I
have got to wrap this up, but I'm having a
great time. I really liked this, super fun. I hope
that y'all are having fun listening, and I'm looking forward
to watching more. Thank you again, Bernadette for commissioning this
one and the last one, and until next time to
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the Loo, motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled Network podcast.
This is an unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
covering one piece episodes seven ninety five and seven ninety six,
A Giant Ambition, Big Mom and Caesar and the Land
(00:23):
of Souls Mom's fatal ability. In this episode, we find
out how Big Mom's power works partially. And I will
tell you what, my friends, this is wild. I mean,
does it get more opie than literally controlling people's souls
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and life force? I think not. Welcome to spoil Me,
(01:10):
Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you
very much to Bernadette for commissioning this episode, and I
wanted to offer a correction because it was Bernadette who
commissioned the previous episode and I gave credit to Florian.
I am used to looking at my calendar for whoever
is the person commissioning it, and there is a separate
(01:33):
spreadsheet that Florian gives me, and I I didn't realize, like,
I don't know why I never noticed it, but that
the names of the people I'm actually meant to credit
are on there. So I have to keep on looking
at that and try and remember that. Sorry about it, Bernadette,
I hope you know I appreciate you. I just want
(01:57):
to like really quickly mention that I I'm having like
either a cold or allergy attack. Excuse me, So I
think this may happen occasionally during the episode, or I
may sneeze out of nowhere. Apologies ahead of time. It
is h I'm feeling a lot better than I did
(02:20):
over the weekend. So that's a promising sign. So yeah, guys,
this is a truly I mean, it's so fun in
a way what Mom has chosen to do here. I
just really want to like take a moment and admire
(02:45):
the fact that what Big Mom is doing. And look,
it may be later on that we find out like
a different thing, but for now, what Big Mom is
doing is taxing everybody who lives in her domain by
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taking a little bit of their soul, their life force,
and putting it into inanimate objects around the islands and
bringing them to life. Now, if you were just gonna
be real basic about this, what would you do? You
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would have this person taking pieces of folks life force
for themselves. You would have them doing something to keep
themselves alive, right, And instead she's like, no, let me
make my island full of like a live things. I
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can't help but love that, Like it's just such a
weird and you know, maybe that she can't take people's
life force for herself, it might not go with the fruit,
but I mean, this is all Oda's idea, and if
he put that limitation on it, that's fun. Also, like,
either way, this is just a very different thing than
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what I have seen with a lot of villains who
can take life forces. Normally it's purely for their own
either immortality or for them to continue looking young. Very
much giving the Sanderson's sisters because they put the sister
under that spell and then suck the life off of
her so that they become young again kind of thing.
(04:38):
And this is just like it's so much more amusing.
It's so much more childish, but in a way that
I approve of. What an interesting idea. Sorry, Sarah, Fhim says,
so far you've seen a Yanka with the power to
suck out your soul and one who could cause earthquakes.
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Now what could the rest have? I'm sorry, Sarah, and
Janko is that I feel like like there's definitely terminology
that I think just doesn't get used in the dubs,
so I don't remember it. Florian says it is where
when we make group preorders. Oh the spreadsheet, gotcha? Yes,
(05:22):
So okay, let's back this up. It's only two episodes
this time, which makes sense because of like the amount
of info dumping that we are going to be getting. First,
I want to talk about I'm just going to sort
of talk about Brooke and Pedro altogether here, because there's
(05:44):
not a lot going on with them. Pretty much. The
way that things are set up is the two of
them are just observing how much information the enemy already
has and panicking. And there's that, and there's also what's
(06:08):
going on with Jimbei. So the whole thing with Jimbay
is sort of unclear. The like, what we're seeing is
the newspaper circulating a story that we don't actually get
to read explicitly what the story says. We get everybody's
(06:31):
reactions to it as they're reading it. But it's sort
of odd and I don't know if this is like
a mechanic of the way the story is told in general,
if it's a result of the dub or what. But
there's like a bunch of people all standing around with
the newspaper as if they're all reading the same story,
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but then one of them will say something out loud
and the others react like they had no idea, despite
that they are all apparently working with like the same
information source here. So whatever the case, it's just, you know,
they've they've got to tell us somehow, and it's just
an exposition tactic, I guess, but it feels sort of
(07:14):
awkward in the moment, I will say. So. The thing
that they keep talking about is that Jimbei has uh
betrayed Big Mom. It's sort of odd, y'all because like
(07:36):
there's not really anything specific about the consequences of this,
and it's just about the fact that he betrayed her,
which I don't It doesn't get into anything specific like
who he's working for now or why he betrayed her
or anything. It just seems like merely the fact that
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he has left her ranks is enough to be full
front page news. And it's a little bit mystifying that
this would be front page it's just not there's not
really enough information here. You know, we don't find out
(08:19):
if he's been punished somehow, you know, what the result
was of that wheel that he he turned. It's generally
just to let us know that he's out of her
employ and that there were like, you know, our friends
didn't know that he was under her employ And at
(08:41):
this point it feels like, all right, well, I think
I'm supposed to be like, if things are going the
way that I am, I think meant to take it.
If the author were to have his d brothers, I
think it's a to be that I'm worried now for
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Jimbay's life, but I'm not at all. It just feels
like we're burying a lead here that there's something much
more interesting going on and we're not being given that
information or the newspaper couldn't get a hold of it,
(09:24):
and so we're getting like the most nothing story, you know.
So anyway, it just it was an odd It just
felt odd to me, you know. It just seemed like
this isn't this isn't really anything, is it? You know?
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And sorry? Uh, Sarafin says the four Emperors, Oh oh,
Yanko's okay. That is a major dub change issue. Sarah
fam Florian says, I think this is the local news
and that's why it is front page. Okay. Well, regardless,
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like I said, we don't get any further information about
what's actually going on with him. We just get, Hey,
there's you know this, this person who is fairly powerful
and popular has decided to turn his back on Big
Mom in a very sort of like can you believe
the nerve sort of way. And it's funny because like
(10:34):
everybody is reacting as if the fact that he is
making this choice makes him the biggest loser alive. And
I sort of was here for that energy of just
everybody being like he had it made. Why is he
being so fucking stupid about this? You guys know that, Like,
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for myself, I'm not really that into Jembay. I feel
like there's nothing wrong with him exactly. It's simply that
he's got no discernible personality that I can see beyond
being earnest about everything, which really isn't adequate. Maybe we
(11:18):
just haven't gotten to know him well enough. But I
would argue that if we're trying to make me care
about what's happened to him, it's just not really working.
I'm just, of course certain that he's fine, and I'm
guessing he's probably going to wind up with Lufy's crew
in the end, and I just don't really want him
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to because I don't like find him that interesting, and
I feel like we already have enough dudes on the crew,
and I would like a woman fighter character to be
added instead, and also somebody who's got a little bit
more personality. But you know, honestly, I've said the crew
(12:04):
is like fairly big now, so I would be okay
if we just left it where it is. That would
be fine with me. I don't know. So anyway, back
to Brooke and Pedro, the whole thing between the two
of them, they're like prowling the island with their little disguises.
(12:31):
And it's so funny to me Brooks disguise because he's
got this like high collared jacket, but the collar is
open in the front so you can still see like
the spinal column if you look closely enough. And then
he's got a sort of scarf at the bottom of
his face and then the big hat at the top
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so that you can just see his eyes and like
the top of his nose hole. And it's just very
funny because like I could see it sort of passing
at a quick glance, but if you closely at all,
he looks even free here than he normally does, I
would argue, and I find it very entertaining. Whoever animated
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this like picked out how this was going to be done.
I like it, I approve, and he sorry. Sarah him
Is in the chat says, wonder how much of the
jimmey issue is a DUB issue. A lot of his
personality and the stuff around him is meant to be
kind of yakuza bass or Yakuza. It's yakuza, right, Maybe
(13:40):
that's part of the problem. I don't know. It's like
you guys have to always remind me of that. So
I would say, either that is not really done successfully
in general, or it just isn't working in the dub
because it never is giving that for me at all,
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not even a little bit, not even remotely. The only
time that ever comes up is when y'all tell me,
and even then it just kind of explains a decision,
but it's still not evident in his behavior or in
the way he speaks. It just doesn't feel like that's present.
(14:22):
So yeah, it might be might be a DUB thing.
But and even so I would argue, like, oh, so
he's supposed to be kind of like based on any
person in the Yakuza that's not enough of a personality
though either, you know, it just feels like that's that's
a category he belongs in. But that's not enough for
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a person who's going to be joining the crew. That's
enough for a side character that we meet for a
few episodes, but if we're going to have him be
more of a thing, that's just really inadequate in any case. Regardless,
So this h the whole thing between them is that
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they are watching through the window. They're passing by a
little I guess, like, what do you call couturier? Is
that what you would call a place where they make
like couture and the tailors is as simple as a tailor's.
(15:24):
I was almost thinking that the two of them have
a much more charitable interpretation than I did at first.
Their interpretation, I think is correct. Just for the record,
I don't think that I was right, but I definitely
had a moment of oh my god, putting lied to them,
this was all a scam. She's telling them, oh, yeah, yeah,
(15:46):
I'll meet you at the beach with Sanji. Don't worry,
and then she immediately goes and like gets outfitted for
her wedding trousseau because she is not giving up Sonji.
She is not meeting there, and she to get on
with planning her dope wedding in peace. And again I
(16:07):
do not think that I am correct, but that was
my instinctive response initially when they're like, but why is
she here, like she should be at the beach, I
was like, Oh, she's betraying you. But then I think
it's Pedro who says she must be having trouble getting
away from all of her attendants, and based on the
(16:29):
way that the scene goes, I think he's right, because
it's just like she's literally surrounded by women all staring
straight at her, all holding gowns that they want her
to try on. Like the thing that she is involved
in here is very, very involved, and there isn't a
good opportunity to slip away that nobody would notice her.
Even if there were an escape from the dressing room,
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if she stepped in there, they would be talking to
her through the dressing room door kind of thing. You know,
There's just no way. And then we have like overseeing
this whole thing the egg man h And it was
very fun, guys, because I was watching this episode with
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my husband, who you know, he doesn't watch the show
with me almost ever, So whenever he pops in and
sits with me to watch for a little bit, it's
always like it's been like ten weeks since the last
time he's seen it, and so the characters he's like
doesn't know who they are, and he was really taken
aback by this French accent and everything, and it made
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me appreciate it afresh. Sarahim says the do I trust
putting or not debate is the best part about a
first time reaction to this part of the arc. Yeah, Like,
for the record, if it turned out that Pudding was
betraying them, that she didn't intend to give up Sanji,
I would really be delighted by that. Actually, I would
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find that very fun. But I don't want that, not really.
I do want her to be working with them and
on their side, only for Sangy's sake. But like I said,
I am personally I would also be very good with
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it if she were betraying them. It's just like for
the sake of things going the way that I would
like them to go. I think it's kind of more
fun if she is trying to help. But all of
the wedding stuff just keeps getting in the way of
her escape, because that is just like low key what
planning a wedding is like. If anybody out there listening
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has planned a wedding, you fucking know it will have
you buy the throat until it's over and even after
a little bit, and it's full of weird like things
that you wouldn't think of that have to get done,
that have to get chosen, selected, whatever, so that every
time that you kind of feel that a certain portion
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of it is over all of a sudden, there will
be somebody like emailing you, going, okay, well we need
you to decide between these four blank and they'll send
you pictures or they'll send you a link to a
listing or whatever. And it's just endless. And that would
be sort of funny if she's like genuinely sincerely trying
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to help, but also I cannot get away. Oh my god,
every time you know, I would buy it, I would
like that. So anyway, this whole thing is really really
like it's kind of extra fun because we have the
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eggman overseeing this and stressing how important it all is,
YadA YadA, and then he is drawn outside by a
couple of those little tiny soldiers who I don't even
know what to call them. I feel like just calling
them soldiers doesn't feel adequate because they kind of are
giving like Munchkins from Wizard of Oz because they are
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so short and they have this very specific costume, even
more than Munchkins. The Munchkins is the short thing. But
they also are reminding me of the witches. Soldiers. Oh oh,
I don't remember what those guys are called, but you
know what I'm talking about, Sarahim says, Chess soldiers. Okay,
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excuse me, that's right, because I remember noticing that their
helmets make them look like literal ponds, so okay, that
makes sense. But they're coming into report to the Eggman
about what they know so far of what's happening, and
I fell out because it's basically Pedro and Brooke listening
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in and finding out that these folks know everything, everything
that they thought they had arrived in secret and flown
under the radar, and instead every move they've made has
been noted and they do not know how, and it's
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mentioned like who could have been watching us? And we
see like one of the flowers like smirking and turning
its head so clearly it's just all of the countryside
is filled with spies, and I don't know if there
is supposed to be a kind of like I'm curious
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about the logistics of the system, surprising no one. Logistics
are always my freakin' you know what I'm saying. But
I kept thinking about the way that the game of
telephone works with these sorts of spies. Are they actually
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physically talking to one another and it just goes like
actual the game of telephone down the line? Is there
like a sort of telepathic element to this where one
of them sees it and it just can like report
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to Big Mom through its mind somehow is it actual traveling?
You know, a flower sees something and that flower kind
of runs off because as we've seen, they can move around.
So there's a lot of questions for me in regard
to how all the news gets about. And I'm just
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curious about it because I feel like either decision has
some advantages and disadvantages regarding like functionality and efficiency and whatever.
And if it's a telepathic thing, that's a real bummer
for our people because that's like as fast as the
news can travel pretty much, that's you don't get faster
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than that, and it is almost the equivalent of like
every inch of a place being covered in security cameras
with one person in the room looking at all of
the screens. I'm so sorry, guys, I don't know what
is going on, Oh, Sarah em says. My guess would
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be they call on transponder snails, so literal telephone a
transponder snail, Like literally didn't even occur to me. That
is so funny. I don't know why I didn't even
think of that, but the DOI all right, yeah, that
makes sense, that definitely makes sense. So I'm sorry, guys.
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This is just really funny to me because it's like
the way that they are acting as they're listening in
and realizing that these guys know everything, and then this
person produces a pair of posters of each of them
and is like, and then here are the other guys
that we need to deal with, and they're just like,
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oh my god, how did they know about us? And
I just found it really funny, like being right there
thinking you're being slick and then finding out that they
fucking know about you. They have your photo, it's already
likely in circulation. Like there's just so much about it
that I find genuinely funny, and their reactions, like the
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way they're animated is also really fun. So it's a
good thing that Brooke has as elaborate a costume on
as he does. But uh, I'm not sure if that's
like how much that's really going to help, you know.
So I'm jumping around here just to make sure that
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I'm not missing any thing because I want to. There's
a makeshift poster for Carrot, which is honestly probably better
drawn than the one for Soanji. At least she it
looks closer to her, you know. I'm trying to see
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if the posters for Pedro and Brooke actually do include there. Okay,
Pedro's includes his hat, but Brooks doesn't, so Brooke is
having a little bit better luck. We also find out
too that there is a history between him and Eggman,
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that they know each other from the past somehow, and I,
I just really I can't imagine, you know, it makes
it sound like this is a romantic history, and I
know that that is like likely unintentional. You know that
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that is my silly brain doing what it does in
terms of like fanfic and whatnot. I get it that
I am not on point here at all, and that
it's not going to be that. But there is just
something about the way that they are so sort of
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unwilling to talk about it that it feels like, you know,
a really painful breakup. That's just the vibe it's giving
to me of like, look, I just I don't even
want to talk about it, you know I would just
And so that's kind of what is going to be
in my head. And just so you guys are aware,
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I don't intend to change that, no matter what the
actual canon tells me, I am going to no matter what,
I'm going to translate everything into this was because the
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two of them were involved with each other romantically, and
they're using what's the word, I want euphemisms to just
kind of dodge what everybody like they're they're making a
little bit of a code because they know what happened.
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And so that's how I'm going to see it, And
I just want you guys to be prepared for everything
that happens with them to be filtered through this assumption
on my part. And I don't apologize. I think it
will be funny. I think it will uh likely add
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a bit of interest to things, to be honest, and
I am looking forward to it. Ever it is, I'm
gonna assign some kind of like other weird story and yeah,
I'm just looking forward to it. So I thought I
would let you let you all know. So all right,
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that's pretty much them. I think we just leave them
wondering what they're going to do because they just weren't
prepared for the information to be to have spread this quickly.
And then we go to this scene with Capone and
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Peckham's guys. So Capone's got a baby. I really this baby,
what a choice. It's got like the sort of five
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o'clock shadows stubble on its face as Capone does. The
whole thing is really something, and it's crying, and it
starts out kind of fun because Capone's like, shut up,
your little monster, you know, and then he becomes unexpectedly
very affectionate with this little kid, and it was honestly adorable.
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Like I was just sort of not prepared for that
to be a whole thing, but there it is. And
Peckham's is here, uh, perched on the edge of a
cliff with his whole body trust up and he's got
his his wrists, I think bound behind him, if I'm
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not mistaken, and Beij makes some comment about how like, ah,
my son's life is just starting and yours has come
into a clone, you know that this whole thing, and
he says something like it's it is almost like one
of those high art like modern you know, like trying
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to make it seem like isn't this poetic? And I
was like, it really isn't. There just happens to be
a baby present, Like these things don't even really have
anything to do with one another, my guy, but whatever,
it's totally fine. So the only thing he says like,
do you have any last words? And we get a replay,
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of course of Peckham's confrontation with him last time where
he refused to turn on the straw hats because they
saved his people, YadA YadA, and he Peckham's says to
him just before he gets shot and like thrown off
the edge, he gets out the words you don't know
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what you're getting too with mama or big mom. And
I was surprised because it felt like when we saw
him and our friends in the previous like in the
scene where we're first coming to the Island. It sounded
to me, I'm so sorry everybody, like he was sort
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of espousing Big Mom's philosophy and saying, you know, she
just wants everybody to be equal, and it felt sincere
as he was saying it. And I don't know if
you just thought we're being spied on, and so I
have to say that, which like it very well. Maybe
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if you're aware how her power works and you know
that all of the things around that are watching are
going to tell her what they see, maybe that's the
best way to go actually, you know, but it definitely here,
like he's got a whole different energy to him and
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is very much Hey, you seem to think that you
know what's going on and you don't and I do,
and like you're making a mistake here, And I am
assuming that it's about what we find out is going
on later with Big Mom and Caesar Clown, but I
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don't know it maybe something like completely other as well.
I don't know. So the Peckham's winds up getting shot
and goes off the edge of the cliff, and we
see all of these sharks like making for him immediately,
and it's sort of taken as like a given that
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he is now dead, but I am not so sure.
I almost I'm like, is it possible that those were
like fishmen, that they look like sharks from far away,
from far above, but actually these dudes were all running
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in to like rescue him. You know, I don't know,
but I have a hard time believing Peckham's is really
dead because it's just the way the show works, and
nobody's dead unless you see a body, and even if
you see a body, like a lot of times, still
not even then. So we'll see, I guess, but uh, yeah,
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for now, I don't buy it. I'll go on record
as saying that I, you guys, this the whole thing
with Beija and his kid. I genuinely don't know where
we're going with this, like how how relevant this is
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going to be? But I want a side plot only
about Beij's home life, the way things work with his
wife and child. Is this his first kid? I think
it must be. Yeah, I don't know, y'all, but I am.
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There's just something so off putting, but in a way
that I find fascinating, like a train wreck about them
as a familial unit. That makes me really interested despite myself,
and you know, I I would I wouldn't mind, honestly,
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like see a series of short stories that were only
kind of the lives of some of the sidekicks in
one piece where it's not like it's not really furthering
the plot, it's not necessarily even giving us information that
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is particularly valuable in any way. It's just simply really
fun and weird, and you know it's it adds an
extra layer of flavor if you know it. That's really
that's all I need. I'm good otherwise. So I just sorry, guys,
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I just find this whole thing very distracting, and I
find it funny. Beije is just such a weird I'm annoyed.
First of all, let me say that I'm calling him
beij and I know that that's what he's called in
the show, and so it's appropriate that I call him
this also, But I just want to say that I
don't like that they have chosen to call him that
when Capone is right there and so much more memorable.
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And I resent the fact that it has gotten enough
in my head now that I'm doing it too. I
don't like it. I just I just don't like it.
So anyway, sorry. Uh. In the in the chat, Saraphim says,
on the plus side, there's enough weird shit in this
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kingdom that a walking skill and said wouldn't be all
that odd, one would think. But people still react to
Brooke like this. This is the thing about one Piece,
is that there are tons of things that are like
you've seen weirder, but people still have to kind of
have a reaction anyway. And I'll point out, like Loofy
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having to remind everybody that we are walking around with
talking animals right now after they react weirdly to like
a walking talking alligator. This is one piece. If the
death wasn't accompanied by five minutes worth of flashbacks with
mother se playing over them, it's logical to assume they
aren't dead. Is Mother see like a piece of music?
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Is that That's what I'm imagining? Florian says, well, there
there are the cover stories. We could send you some
new ones. Oh I forgot about those are those like
the Sidekick, like the Baddies, the Sidekick Baddies. I just
want to stress that that is what I mean, is
like the people that are not that are just weirdo
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bad guys that you don't you know. Saraphim says, yeah,
it's the dad piano. Hm. The first one was about
Buggy ooh was it? I don't remember now, Florin, I'm sorry,
Oh sad piano? Got it? Okay, got it? Got that.
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I should have known that was a typo, but I
was like, what I thought? This was just more lore
that I didn't know. Who knows? So okay, okay, okay,
let me let me get back on track here. So
let's go to Lufy, who this is extremely funny to me. Guys.
Lufy is in the Seducing Woods, and he is really
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getting mad because he keeps seeing his friends, and his
friends keep running away from him, and he doesn't understand
why or what they're doing and decides that he is
going to catch them. The first time that he catches
any of them, it's Sanji, who is just like hissing
(38:25):
and spitting at Loufy and just seems very much like
a rabid animal, and Lufy understandably is just sort of like, bro,
what is going on? Until another sangie suddenly turns up
and now he's like, okay, okay, hold on, what the
fuck is happening? And we kind of like cut from
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that moment and then when we come back, Loufy has
just been capturing and collecting all of the friends that
he has in the woods and bound them up and
is tossing them in a pile in front of that
giant dude. And you guys, I wasn't ready for this,
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and I should have seen that this joke was coming.
But at one point, Nammy turns and is just like,
what the hell, let me out of these restraints and
he's like, oh my god, this one can talk and
she's like, yeah, I can. He's like she sounds just
like the real Nobby and she's like, because I am
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the Oh my god. And again I should have seen
it coming, but I didn't, and I started cracking up.
The whole idea that like he just assumed. You know,
it doesn't make any sense because why would she not
have spoken up already? But it doesn't matter, because it's
just for the joke and it's very it hit and
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the two of them being right in front of this
giant dude. Nanny finally turns to that guy and is like, Okay, man,
what the fuck because you've been watching this the whole
time and you didn't say shit to anybody, so you
have got to be involved somehow, like, please be so
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for real right now, you're in it? What is happening?
And he says that he won't tell them anything until
they get him a drink of juice. And I really
thought that we were getting that side quest. We don't.
He like, the deal that Lufy makes is maybe we'll
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go get it for you once we get what we want,
and also mentions I wouldn't mind having some juice myself.
It actually sounds pretty good. I was kind of gratified
that that quest is put off for a minute so
that we can spend this time I'm here instead just
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talking and getting information, because, like I said, I just
didn't think that was happening. So this is this dude.
Like eventually he tells them how he once was the
husband of Big Mom, but it's like not really a
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surprise because he keeps calling her Lulu or something like that.
He keeps calling her by her name rather than Big
Mom and then correcting himself and then being like and
then she you know, having to kind of back up.
And it's a little funny because like in the moment
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it's giving, but you guys, I have to hide the
fact that I know her because you can't for some
reason know that information. But then he does wind up
telling them the truth anyway, and I was like, this
seems like you could have just said after all, and
I don't know, so, oh my god, sorry, Seraphim's Seraphim
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is really up against some some autocorrect and typeos today, Lynn, Lynn,
thank you. And so I'm curious, like exactly I'm gonna
jump ahead to that point where he finds this out
or he tells them how all of this works. But
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we find out about the the manipulation of souls and
the fact that like living here, everybody is like living
this wonderful life, but they are paying a price for it.
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And I think he says in total, every six years,
it's like the equivalent of a year of their life
that they have given away. Some math like that. I'm
not even totally sure, but honestly, y'all, I get it.
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You know, Like it's hard. It's hard for me to
be mad that people are willing to make this compromise.
It just seems like a pretty dope place to live.
And frankly, a lot of this universe is a trash fire.
(43:48):
You know, you have got a lot wrong in this
world and so being somewhere that's like all like not
to your island, but the surrounding islands also are managed
by somebody super powerful, and there is plentiful resources and
(44:12):
everything is just being handled. I understand it's a fucked
up bargain to make, but I really can't be all
that mad about it. And there's a part of me
that's just like, yeah, that's fair, you know. And I
know that probably that's very revealing, and I'm sounding extremely
(44:35):
American right now, so I will acknowledge that. But I just,
you know, shit's bad out here, y'all, and I can't
help but feel sometimes like we're we're it's a worse
deal that we've actually got in the real world. Like
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if we are honest with what is demanded of us
in terms of how we live and our productivity and
the level of like healthcare that we are afforded in
the United States specifically, we aren't exactly not trading years
of our lives for how we live anyway, you know,
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we are actively encouraged not to take care of ourselves
the way that we should for the sake of our
employer's productivity and whatnot. And it's difficult for me, Like,
there has been so much more research done about how
much rest and sleep affect everything about your quality of life.
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And it's disturbing to realize the way that we have
normalized going around and like living our lives chronically sleep
deprived and priding ourselves on not resting enough, and that
we have constructed a society in which asking for help
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is seen as somehow like capitulating to like failure and
admitting that you aren't capable, when actually our society is
as it is right now, is sort of new. It
used to be that you dependent on everyone around you anyway,
and we've just kind of restructured and isolated folks in
(46:29):
such a way that we've grown to believe we shouldn't
need help. So anyway, all this to say, I don't
think that this deal people are making is out of
the question or even that much worse than what we've
got going on now. So this whole thing is you know,
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him explaining to them the way that this works and
how these pieces of soul are put into all of
the what's the word inanimate objects and things around them,
and they begin to look around and realize that the
(47:17):
entire forest that they are surrounded by it's all an enemy,
it's all like here to take them down. That they
are so hopelessly outnumbered. Honestly, it is a pretty like
jarring image to see this, the way that it's this
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tiny group and the trees around them are looming in
and look very threatening, even the flowers. And I'm still
curious about exactly how this works, but I'm assuming that
like once Big Mom takes your soul and puts it
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into one of these, that she basically gets total control
over it. Unless it's supposed to be that the folks
who give up the fraction of their souls that they
are so compliant with Big Mom that that piece of
their soul does whatever she asks as like a matter
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of course because it matches with the personality that it
was originally taken from. I don't know, I'm just you know,
I'm just thinking out loud here in terms of like
how all this would work, because I they all seem
to be extremely on board with whatever the current plan is,
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and I uh, I don't know, it's hard. It's just
it's hard for me to be mad at these bits
of souls, like they have a good thing going and
here comes some folks that might mess that up for them.
And it does make some sense to me why they
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would be willing to throw down on Big Mom's behalf.
I can't help but understand that. So yeah, anyway, I
I want to jump over to the which Brulai that
they wind up, you know, up against. It turns out
(49:28):
that Brulas has this whole thing with a mirror, she
ate the mirror mirror fruit, and so she's able to
use this mirror as a weapon. And it's not just
like I am able to because like I'm getting sort
(49:50):
of ahead of myself, but eventually Carrot is fighting her.
She holds up the mirror and Carrot jumps into it
intentionally and gets trapped in it. Which that for me,
the idea of like being not just captured, Because if
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you're captured, but you're in your own body in a
normal like way, you know, then you've got a modicum
of control in that situation. You could find a way
to break out, you could find a way to you know,
reason with them whatever. There's all kinds of ways. But
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when you are in a magical object that somebody else controls,
now it's a completely different kettle of fish. And I
hate it. Now we've got you know, like, who knows
if there's any expiration day I'm being stuck in there.
She could literally just like maybe stick that mirror in
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a closet somewhere and you'll be forgotten forever. I don't
know if the mirror mirror fruit means that it's just
this one mirror that is hers that she can use
this way, or if it's supposed to be that, like
she can can enchant any mirror to do what she
wants it to do. But either way, it just feels
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for me like there's something particularly creepy about this ability
in a good way. I like it just for the record,
and I am just really interested in where all this
is gonna wind up going, because our friends are I mean,
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Carot's you know, she in there, She in there, And
here's na me all by herself now, and I'm trying
to remember if we actually find out what happened to
everybody else, because we know that Chopper took one of
his rumble balls and became huge, and the Witch reacts brule,
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She's very much like, oh shit, I mean, already you
were talking reindeer, which was sort of dope, but now
you have become this thing. You're kind of rad actually,
aren't you. And I couldn't help but just be I look,
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we all know that I have a problem with wanting
like the approval of superiors and authority figures and whatever.
That's a given. I have always been a big fan
of the I am your enemy, but I can't help
be impressed by but be impressed by you. And so
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especially because it's Chopper who is experiencing this, Chopper is
so overlooked by so many people. I mean, his fringing,
his bounty is like five berries or something incredibly insulting.
And so I won't lie. Guys. When she was impressed
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with him at this juncture, I was very like, see,
thank you. Oh finally somebody appreciates him, you know, And
I know, I know, I know, but I can't help it.
It's just I want somebody to see how useful and
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great he is. And it's just a very probably one
would consider it toxic mindset to have, but you know, like,
oh well, so anyway, this is like all of this
is the story is being told to us, like when
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we're seeing Bruet and she's informing us about how things
work in big mom's world. She is in a flashback
and Nammy is looking up and being just like attacked
by all of these There's like flowers jumping on her,
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and one of them jumps on her stomach and is
moving in this way that I think is supposed to
suggest that it's trying to bite her. It doesn't seem
to succeed though, it's just sort of like attempting to
do it. And Chopper is the one who's like, all right, look,
this is serious. They work for big moms, so we
can't take this lightly. I'm gonna hold them off. You
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have got to go tell Loofy and let him know
what's happening. And so he is still fighting her when
Nami runs away, and this is when she's like, where
did Chopper go? And Carrot and this dude. I can't
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get over this giant guy because he's got this like
rough under his neck and everything, and I don't know
if it's that he's buried or if it's that he's
like actually cut into pieces or what. Yeah, So trying
to find the spot here. Oh yeah, I forgot about
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this aspect as well. So first of all, everything that's
been animated by these bits of by these bits of
spirit are called homies. I don't I don't know if
this is just like a dub thing or if Oda
(55:50):
knew and sort of did this on purpose, But I
just want to register how fucking funny that is to me.
I'm so sorry, really, okay, you know what, I'm not
mad about it. Guys, do you remember homies? The little
like dudes that you would put a nickel into the machine.
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They would come in those little eggs and you could
get them out of like the vending machine, things like
a gumball basically, and they were called homies and they
were all like little little dudes. I there is something
about these being named the same way that tickled me
a lot. I found that shit very very funny. And
(56:37):
uh yeah, I it's just it's great and I just
never change it. Personally, I love it. But then the
other thing that he mentions is, uh, this collection and
distribution of Lifespan is operated by Big Mom's incarnations that
(57:02):
are made up of her own soul. And we see
these little dudes that are sort of shaped like a
cartoon ghost, but they're black instead of white, and they
have white eyes. Pretty spooky looking, well done in my opinion.
(57:22):
I love this so much. I really I don't know
exactly how to what to expect from them in terms
of their capabilities, but the fact that she can do
this with her own soul was something that I had
(57:45):
never considered. And it doesn't seem that she doesn't have
to put those pieces into any other vessel. They can
just function on their own, which is bonkers, Like what, how,
oh how corporeal are they? It seems like probably she
(58:05):
just uses them for this task because they aren't corporeal,
and so they are able to touch the pieces of
soul which also are not corporeal. So that's sort of
what I'm trusting is going on with it. But I
might be wrong, Like I don't know, you know, it
just I was very very fascinated by this whole idea
(58:31):
and concept, and for myself, the fact that she can
do this to her own soul is it's such a
neat idea that I don't know if I would have
thought of, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know.
I am interested and appalled, I guess is my reaction,
(58:56):
and something that probably could be quoted for a lot
of this show is just simply interested and appalled and
I acknowledge this, So all right, I'm out of time.
I think I've talked about pretty much everything. I'm just
trying to scrub through real quick to make sure. Oh
oh right, Brule uses her ability to turn normal animals
(59:19):
into decoy people to throw you off. So apparently this
is a function of having eaten or the yeah, eaten
the mirror mirror fruit is that she can like create
mirror images of you or people. It's unclear. I'm assuming
that she's like met Sanji and so that's how she
(59:42):
does it. Like probably she has to have seen you
in order to make a copy of you. I'm imagining
that's like a requirement. But all of these these so
called friends that Lufy has been gathering up and putting
into a pile are just regular like forest creatures that
(01:00:04):
are made to look like mirror images. But they're just animals.
So they're all very like valid in their anger toward
him for capturing them, because you know, it's just imagine
like capturing a bunch of raccoons and then just like
tying them up and throwing them in a pile on
top of each other. Yeah, you'd be pissed. You'd be
(01:00:26):
very annoyed by it, so fair. All right, guys, I
have got to wrap this up, but I'm having a
great time. I really liked this, super fun. I hope
that y'all are having fun listening, and I'm looking forward
to watching more. Thank you again, Bernadette for commissioning this
one and the last one, and until next time to
(01:00:48):
the Loo, motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled Network podcast.
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