Favor Over Influence

What if your quest for success has been guided by the wrong voice all along? Walter and Shanea invite you to explore the profound impact of choosing divine favor over worldly influence in our latest episode of Stepping in Faith. As we journey through the stories of Adam and Eve and Jesus' temptation, we unravel the constant tug-of-war between the Spirit of God and the seductive pull of worldly wisdom. Understanding which voice steers your thoughts and actions can unlock a life of true spiritual fulfillment.

Join us as we reflect on biblical narratives featuring Joseph and Daniel, illustrating how genuine favor with God leads to influence free from manipulation and deceit. We contrast divine favor with the hollow pursuit of power driven by selfish motives, often resulting in destructive behaviors. Through personal testimonies and scriptural insights, our conversation emphasizes the transformative power of aligning every aspect of life with God's will, underscoring the significance of spiritual guidance over worldly recognition.

In this episode, we encourage you to cultivate a personal relationship with God, fostering a life rich in spiritual fulfillment and free from self-indulgence. From discerning God's influence over worldly deception to understanding the importance of obedience and media consumption, we tackle the crucial aspects of maintaining a strong foundation in faith. We invite our listeners to share their journeys and experiences, offering a supportive community committed to spiritual growth and connection. Be inspired to prioritize God's favor and embrace a path of true divine influence.

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Episode Transcript

Walter (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith,
where together we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat can impact the relationship
you have with others.
I'm your host, Walter.
I'm joined alongside my lovelywife.

Shanea (00:13):
Shanea.

Walter (00:14):
This is episode 10 or 11 ?

Shanea (00:18):
11.
This is episode 11.
11.
11.

Walter (00:21):
So episode 11.
You want me to do the title oryou want to do the title?
What's the title?

Shanea (00:36):
What's the title for this week's?

Walter (00:37):
episode.
The title for this week'sepisode is Favor Over Influence
Favor.
Over Influence.
Yes, Before we get started,let's go ahead and just make it
clear that we are believers, sowe always like to start these
podcasts out in prayer, theseepisodes out in prayer.
I believe, baby, it was your.
You prayed last time, so it'smy turn, right, mm-hmm, okay.

(00:59):
Heavenly Father, as we comebefore you today, we are so
grateful for your love, yourmercy and your grace.
We thank you that, even in themidst of everything going on,
you are still in control.
We thank you that you are Godand God alone.
We yield and we submitourselves to you.
We surrender to you.
We place our trust and ourreliance on you, in you, and we
ask that your perfect will willbe carried out in this week's

(01:21):
episode.
Allow this to touch the heart ofthose that you've called for it
to touch.
Allow this to bring forthchange.
Allow this word to convict God.
Holy Spirit, we yield to youand ask that you would speak
through us.
Lord Jesus, we welcome you, weacknowledge you.
Allow your presence to beexperienced.
Allow your presence to be feltlike never before.

(01:42):
We submit this back to you evennow.
It's in Jesus' name we pray,amen.
Amen.
That was a long ride, okay, sofavor over influence.
Interesting I will yield to you, babe, because this is what God

(02:04):
gave you.
So why?
How did you get this?

Shanea (02:09):
Well, usually God will let you know what we're talking
about, but this time, when Iasked, I heard possession and
I'm like possession, I'm likeGod.
I know you don't want us totalk about demons, just get.
I know you don't want us totalk about demonology.

Walter (02:30):
That's your department.

Shanea (02:32):
Yeah, I know you don't want us to talk about demonology
, so what do you mean bypossession?
And then I was like, okay,influence.
I was like, okay, influence.
What do you mean by influence?
I was like, okay, influence.
What do you mean by influence?

(02:54):
And then what was coming to mewas you know the decisions we
make.
What are they being influencedby?
How are we?
Because our last episode wewere talking about obedience and
it's how are we being obedient?
What drives us to be obedientor disobedient?
And the thing that came to mewas influence.
So who's influencing yourthoughts?

(03:15):
Is it the spirit of God or isit?
the spirit or wisdom of thisworld, and so that's the only
way you could be.
The reason why people aredisobedient is because they
don't listen to what God issaying.
They have all these otherinfluencers meaning spirits,

(03:37):
demonic spirits influencingtheir thoughts.
And then other people culture,tradition, which is also
influenced by demonic spiritssay, yeah, right to get people
to stay in bondage well, we wastalking about this earlier.

Walter (03:59):
Uh, simply put, we think there's multiple voices we're
dealing with, but it's just two.
And we see that example withadam and eve in the beginning
and I always go back to adam andeve because this is where it
all began.
And so in the beginning we seethat adam, initially, when he
provided eve with theinformation that god gave him,

(04:21):
which was not to eat from thetree, because if she ate from
that tree, the tree of knowledgeof good and evil, then they
would surely die, that was thecommand that God gave to Adam.
The voice that was influencingwhat Adam gave to Eve was God.
Yet we see another example ofthe enemy going to Eve and

(04:43):
saying that you won't surely dieand I'm paraphrasing, but he
was saying that God would know.
God just knows that you wouldbe like God.
Right.
Being able to know thedifference between good and evil
, essentially, being able tomake the choice for yourself.

Shanea (04:56):
Being able to make decisions for your own, like you
can make your own decisionsExactly.

Walter (05:00):
And so we saw in that there was two voices that was
influencing them there was thevoice of God versus the voice of
the enemy.
And now, when you begin to peelback the layers, you'll see
that the serpent was there.
You'll see that Eve was there.
So Eve was influenced by theserpent.
And then you have Adam.

(05:20):
That was influenced by Eve, andthis is why we start saying oh
well, who's influencing you?
Is it your voice?
Is the voice of God, Is thevoice of the enemy?
Right, is it the?
voice of culture?
Is it this?
Is that?
No, there's two voices.
That's always influencing you.

Shanea (05:35):
Yeah, but your voice is influenced by.

Walter (05:37):
The enemy.

Shanea (05:38):
Yeah, by whatever it is that you're taking on?

Walter (05:40):
Yes.

Shanea (05:41):
So influence.
The definition of influence isthe ability to affect others,
shape opinions or gainrecognition, which is what we're
talking about.
And then I have a definition offavor.
Favor is divine grace thatpositions you for impact
according to God's will.

(06:01):
And initially what I got wasinfluence.
But then you asked me what Godwants us to title the episode,
and I heard favor over influence.
I kept hearing favor overinfluence.
I'm like what do you?
What does that mean?
Favor over influence, right.

(06:23):
What does that mean favor overinfluence?
Right, because we know favorwill bring you influence, right.
But then you came up with theidea, or what was coming to you
was that the enemy can give youfavor also which provides you
with influence.

Walter (06:42):
Yeah, that's what was dropped in my spirit.
It was from when he wasspeaking to Jesus, when Jesus
was being tempted.

Shanea (06:51):
Right, which is something given to you that will
position you.

Walter (06:57):
Yeah, he said that the Bible says Matthew 4, matthew
four, verse seven, where we cansay verse eight, and this was
during the time where Jesus wasin the wilderness.
The Bible says that he wasushered into the wilderness by

(07:17):
the Holy spirit to be tempted bythe enemy, fasting for 40 days
and 40 nights.
Uh, and verse eight.
It says next the devil took himto the peak of a very high
mountain and showed him all thekingdoms of the world and their
glory.
I will give it all to you.
He said, if you will kneel downand worship me, get out of here
, satan.
Jesus told him, for thescripture says you must worship

(07:38):
the Lord, your God, and serveonly him, and this is the NLT
version Only him.
And this is the NLT version.
So that was given to me, andwhat God was really dropping in
my spirit is that, just likethere's a favor that you can
receive from God, there's also afavor that you can receive from
the enemy, and this was anexample of the enemy showcasing
that I can give you favor.

(07:59):
Yet something that God droppedin your spirit is what, when the
enemy brings favor to you orsomething that you you we was
talking about yesterday is whathappens when the enemy brings
you favor.

Shanea (08:09):
Yeah, and and if we?
If you can scroll down, babe, Iliterally already have it there
.
Okay, yeah, so you can receivefavor from the enemy.
And then I have Matthew 4, 8through 10, which you just read
and jumped ahead.
Yeah it, uh.
Satan can offer influence satancan offer influence, but it

(08:29):
comes at a cost, a cost of costof being obedient to god.
Right um being disobedient togod and the key difference
between.

Walter (08:39):
It's so simple.
Um, we say this all the timethe key difference between favor
from god versus favor fromsatan is, when it comes with
favor from satan, it alwaysglorifies self, yeah, and when
it's favor from god, it alwaysglorify god.
So we have here, uh and I guesswe're already touching on it
the difference between favor andinfluence.

(09:01):
Uh, favor versus influence.
Right, you touched on that.
We have Proverbs 3 and 4.

Shanea (09:08):
Yeah, because when you asked me because you were
getting something different, Iwas.
When you asked what we shouldbe talking about.

Walter (09:16):
And we will talk about that.

Shanea (09:18):
Yeah, but what God confirmed to me that we should
be speaking on influence isProverbs 3, 4.
Then you will find favor inhigh regard in the sight of God
and man.
So favor in high regard in thesight of God, but also favor
with man.

(09:38):
Favor with man also meansinfluence right also means
influence right.
So the things that I do willinfluence a man to decide
whether or not he's going tofollow me or respect me right,
Based off the favor that God hasgiven me.

Walter (09:55):
And the example of that and we was discussing this what
came to you and came to me wasJoseph.
And let's see.

Shanea (10:04):
It genesis 41 genesis 41 yeah, and then I put in genesis
41 um 16 genesis 41.

Walter (10:14):
So all of this is good, but all of genesis 41 genesis 41
.
It literally touches on thefact that pharaoh had two dreams
and he didn't know what thedreams meant.
He was puzzled, like there wereit.
The dream seems scary to him.
It seemed like nightmares.

Shanea (10:31):
Yeah.

Walter (10:31):
And he wanted to know what these dreams meant.
And his chief cupbearerremember that when he was in
prison, joseph, a Hebrew boy orJew, actually interpreted the
dreams that he had and it cameto pass just like he said it was
.
So he brought him back up tohis attention and Pharaoh sent
for Joseph and he's tellingJoseph the dreams and Joseph one

(10:57):
of the key things, becausepeople get this misconstrued too
.
So you said verse 16, this iskey.
Joseph said it is beyond mypower to do this.
Joseph replied but God can tellyou what it means and set you
at ease.
Yeah.
So this was Joseph saying that Idon't have the ability to
interpret your dreams.

(11:17):
Right.
So that's going to kind oftouch on what people who say
that they can interpret dreamsand they can do this and they
can do that and it's like Josephsaid that it's not through his
own power, it's only through thepower of God.
But Joseph interpreted thedreams right and further on it,
he even provided wisdom, and Iguess we could read some of this

(11:39):
.
Let's see.
You can read what the dreamswere.
Yet Joseph explained the dreamsand he explained how to handle
the dreams.
So Joseph said this, verse 25,.

(11:59):
Joseph responded both thePharaoh's dreams mean the same
thing.
God is telling Pharaoh inadvance what he is about to do.
The seven healthy cows and theseven healthy heads of grain
both represent seven years ofprosperity.
The seven thin, scrawny cowsthat came up later and the seven
thin heads of grain withered bythe east wind represent seven
years of famine.
This will happen just as I havedescribed it, for God has

(12:23):
revealed to Pharaoh in advancewhat he is about to do.
The next seven years will be aperiod of great prosperity
throughout the land of Egypt,but afterward there will be
seven years of famine, so greatthat all the prosperity will be
forgotten in Egypt.
And Joseph went on to explain toPharaoh how to approach it.

(12:43):
He said, verse 33, therefore,pharaoh should find an
intelligent and wise man and puthim in charge of the entire
land of Egypt, then Pharaohshould appoint supervisors over
the land and let them collectone fifth of all the crops
during the seven good years,have them gather all the food
produced in the good years thatare just ahead and bring it to
Pharaoh's storehouse, store itaway and guard it, so there

(13:06):
would be food in the cities.
So he went on, and then, afterthat, the Bible says that
Joseph's suggestions were wellreceived by Pharaoh and his
officials.
And then, further on, it saidso.
Pharaoh asked his officials canwe find anyone else like this
man so obviously filled with thespirit of God?
Then Pharaoh said to Josephsince God has revealed the
meaning of the dreams to you,clearly no one else is as

(13:29):
intelligent or wise as you are.
You will be in charge of mycourt and all my people would
take orders from you.
Only I, sitting on my throne,will have rank a rank higher
than yours.
So that was an example of whatyou just said higher than yours,

(13:50):
so that was an example of whatyou just said.
Joseph had the favor of Godupon his life and that favor of
God is what led to him being inthe place to gain influence, in
a way to where, even whenPharaoh said that he was going
to place Joseph in his position,because Joseph went from being
in prison and being a slavebefore being in prison to being
the second man in charge- butJoseph also had favor.

Shanea (14:12):
while he was in prison he had favor with the warden.

Walter (14:16):
He had favor everywhere he went.
There was no place that Josephwent that he did not have favor.

Shanea (14:21):
And because he had favor , he was successful and he had
influence it went that he didnot have favor and because he
had favor, he was successful andhe had influence.
You know, he had influence overthe prisoners, he had influence
over the people of Egypt.

Walter (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, when we think about favor, the way that
you actually receive the favorof God, I would say this favor
is simply put God knows who youare and it's because when we
think of favor, it's recognition, right, right.
So it's basically saying thatGod knows who you are and God
recognizes you.

(14:53):
So when God recognizes you, manwill too.
Right.
And that comes by way ofrelationship with the Father.
This doesn't come from religion, right?
Of relationship with the father.
This doesn't come from religion, this doesn't come simply by
reading your word, this doesn'tcome simply by praying.
No, this comes from actualrelationship with God.

(15:14):
Because when we look at thescriptures and it explains what
Joseph did Joseph not only knewhow to access God, not only did
Joseph have the heart of God andthe mind of God, he had direct
access to God.
To say I don't know how tointerpret dreams, but I have
access to the God, the one andonly true God that give you the

(15:37):
dreams.
So, since I have access to him,he can interpret the dreams,
then give to me what the dreammean.
Then, on top of that, not onlydid Joseph interpret the dreams
by way of the Spirit of God, healso, by way of the Spirit of
God, provided Pharaoh withinstructions on how to prepare
for what God had forewarned himof.
Right.

(15:59):
That's the difference.
When you think about it, whenyou think about what it is.
That's the difference.

Shanea (16:06):
Yeah, the difference is that having a right relationship
with God will give you favor,but it will lead to influence
with man.
And when the enemy comes, inorder to gain influence with man
, you have to keep chasing,chasing after power.
You have to keep doing thingsoutside of God's will.

Walter (16:31):
Demonic things.

Shanea (16:32):
Yeah, you have to keep doing.
You manipulate people intothinking that you have some type
of power.

Walter (16:39):
Whether that be through lying, cheating, it's a
different type of situation andand we see so many examples of
it within the world.

Shanea (16:47):
And it's like who are you being faithful to?

Walter (16:49):
Exactly, and their desire, those who the enemy
gives power to.
If you look at it, it'sdifferent.
Their desire and theirobsession is more power.
It's never enough power andbecause of you being obsessed
with that, you will do anythingto keep that power.
You are unalive people, youwill lie, you will cheat, you

(17:11):
will manipulate yourself.
So what begins to happen is youbegin to take on the
characteristics of the prince ofthis world, versus when you are
focused on relationship withGod and God has given you favor.
The influence doesn't matter toyou.
No.
It's just something, josephdidn't care about the influence.

(17:32):
It just happens he cared aboutthe relationship with God.
Even when we think of Danieland I think we have him in here
as an example Daniel never caredabout the influence.
There are instances whereDaniel was like I don't care
about this.
He cared about the favor of God.
He cared about the relationshipwith God.
Shadrach, meshach and Abednegothe Bible touches on how they

(17:54):
were about to be thrown into thefiery furnace.
I think that's in Daniel.
What is that?

Shanea (17:58):
Daniel, I have it on here, if you scroll further down
.
Okay, I'm going to stop movingahead because I'm we are just
going go ahead.

Walter (18:07):
No, it's cool you have that in here as well yeah, I got
.

Shanea (18:10):
I have all of this in here.

Walter (18:12):
Daniel three yeah okay, so where are we at?
Because I'm, I'm, I'm jumpingin no, you're good, so we we
went past that.
We're looking at the twosources of favor.

Shanea (18:20):
Let's's false the two sources of favor.

Walter (18:23):
Yeah, so the two sources of favor you have down here.
That, and we touched on thisyou can receive favor from the
enemy too.
And we was just talking aboutthat, and we touched on Matthew
4, 8 through 10.
That's when the devil took himto a high mountain and showed
him all the kingdoms of theworld and he said that all this

(18:44):
I will give you if you bow downand worship me.
So I want you to.
Satan can offer influence, butit comes at a cost of obedience
to him.

Shanea (18:55):
Right.

Walter (18:56):
Which is disobedience to God.

Shanea (18:58):
Exactly.
That's why, even though Jesuswas hungry, he was like I'm not.
I'm good, I'm good Cause, Idon't.
I don't take orders from you hesaid I'm not.

Walter (19:06):
No, the bible says yeah, you should only worship god
exactly but once this digs backinto what we touched on with
counterfeits, we touched onthere being two kingdoms, how
the enemy mimics the kingdom ofgod, because one of the specific
things that the enemy said toto jesus, he said if you will
bow down and worship me, yeah.
That's what he said to Jesusright Matthews 4, 8 and 10.

(19:29):
He said if you will bow downand worship me, I will give you
everything.

Shanea (19:32):
Yes, I will take you to the highest mountaintops.

Walter (19:35):
Exactly.
All I want you to do is bowdown and worship me, yeah.
And Jesus said to him thescriptures say you must worship
the Lord, your God, and serveonly him.
And the issue is that westruggle with the fact of we
don't serve only God.
We serve God and the enemy.

Shanea (19:57):
Exactly, and if we're serving the enemy, we're not
serving God at all.

Walter (20:01):
The Bible calls you lukewarm.

Shanea (20:03):
Yes.

Walter (20:04):
And the Bible says that God will spit you out of his
mouth.

Shanea (20:06):
Exactly.

Walter (20:08):
And so that's really important and I would say that
we could argue right.
There are certain instanceswhere, within people life, where
they submit that to God andthey're obedient to God in those
particular areas.
Yeah.
But there are other areaswithin people lives that they
are still yielded to the wisdomof this world and the influence

(20:30):
of this world.
Yeah.
And the influence of Satan, orthey seek glory for themselves.

Shanea (20:37):
Right, they seek self-promotion, that's why,
you're out going out on allthese interviews applying for
jobs and dating.

Walter (20:46):
You seek, you want what you want, which is why you're
dating so many people, and theworld teaches you to do that,
because, of course, the worldteaches you Because you need to.

Shanea (20:56):
you need to think about yourself and how you feel.

Walter (20:59):
So it's the new thing as well.
It's the new thing as well.
Unfortunately, you even havecertain leaders within the body
of Christ that will tell youthat you should date as many
people as you can so you can getto know yourself, you can get
to know what it is that you like.

Shanea (21:12):
Exactly.
You should get to know what youlike.
This is how you learn thingsabout yourself by being around
other people, you getting toknow them, you being around
people will bring out some ofyour flaws, bring out some of
your good characteristics.
Or you know, you go out and andif this person does something,

(21:33):
then you know that, no, I can'tdate anybody that acts like this
or does this.
And it's like how will you knowif you, if you like this person
or not if you've neverexperienced any of these
experiences?

Walter (21:44):
before and that that's the unfortunate thing and we are
missing it.

Shanea (21:50):
I don't know if we're getting off subject but no, I
think we're still on topic evenwhen you dig into that, we are
always being influenced bysomething yeah, and I know you
had wrote down here what thegreatest deception is is
promoting the idea of do as thouwilt.
Yeah.
And that is you going out andpursuing.
A person is doing as thou will.

(22:11):
You going out and pursuingstuff without consulting with
God, no matter what it is.
It could be your career, itcould be um a relationship.
It could be literally anything.
A relationship it could beliterally anything.
You could go out and buying acar or a house without
consulting with God.

(22:34):
Moving to a different, locationwithout consulting with God, and
I'm I'm trying, that is doingas thou will, which is a phrase
that comes from a Satanist Yep,I think it's.
Uh, his name is Crowley.
Crow'm looking at mine rightnow Crowley and then the other
one is.
Crowley was the originator.
Yeah, it's Crowley.
Crowley is the originator.
So the idea of do as thou wiltis a phrase from a Satanist.

Walter (22:59):
He felt, do as thou wilt shall be the whole law.
Yeah, and it directly opposesGod's will Do as thou will,
which is basically be your ownGod.

Shanea (23:08):
Exactly.

Walter (23:20):
And we.
It's so dangerous because, asbelievers, we take upon that
idea of just like hey, withinthese particular areas, we can
do what we want to do and whenthe Bible lets us know that we
are to submit our entire life tothe leading of the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, we're to lay down ourlives, we're to die to self, and
so, with that being the case,it goes contrary to the wisdom
of this world, and we I think Idon't know if we've spoken on
this, we probably did, but wetouched on this before and we
said the key thing that we haveto keep in mind is that, from

(23:43):
the beginning, it was always abattle between the wisdom of
this world versus the wisdom ofGod.

Shanea (23:48):
Life and death.

Walter (23:49):
Yes, the wisdom of the light versus the wisdom of the
darkness, and so that does notchange, and I think it becomes a
challenge because we don'trealize that that plays into
every different sector, everydifferent area of our lives.

Shanea (24:06):
Yeah and well, people, people, even the people in the
church, would say well, you'redoing too much, you don't have
to consult God on everything.

Walter (24:15):
And it's like yes, you do, because Galatians five you
do Like being a believer is someis a serious walk.
The road is very narrow well,see, we have to remember that in
the beginning, adam and eve'sentire lives were submitted unto
god.
We dealt with this before,based on how god gave it to me

(24:36):
before, uh and babe, am Italking too loud?

Shanea (24:40):
I can't really tell with these headphones on.

Walter (24:43):
We dealt with this before with Adam and Eve, and
what God was giving us therevelation on is that Adam and
Eve's subconscious was connectedto the spirit of God that was
intertwined with their spirit.

Shanea (24:59):
Right, which is what was leading them.

Walter (25:02):
It was what was leading them.
It was what was leading them.
Yet the minute that they atefrom the tree, it disconnected
their subconscious from thespirit of God that was connected
to their spirit and itconnected them to the wisdom of
this world.

Shanea (25:18):
Because you have a choice to choose on who is going
to lead you.
To choose on who is going tolead you.

Walter (25:22):
But you got to think about this because they went
from a point of being led by theSpirit of God to being led by
their own subconscious that wasintertwined with the wisdom of
this world, and so when we thinkabout this.
But they listened to the enemy,yes which led to that, exactly
Now what Jesus did, and this iswhy the Bible talks about us

(25:43):
having our mind renewed.
Jesus came to undo all of that.
Yet you have to go through theprocess.
You have to go through thewilderness experience.
You have to go through theprocess of having your mind
renewed.
And having your mind renewed isreally just allowing God to
chip away at all of those thingsthat are not of him and teach
you and walk you through theprocess of reconnecting your

(26:04):
subconscious, or the Bible wouldsay, your heart, back to the
spirit of God that isintertwined with your spirit, so
that every single decision youmake consciously is driven
subconsciously by the spirit ofGod Exactly, and so it's like
you have to be very carefulabout who is influencing you.

Shanea (26:26):
Who are you choosing to lead you?
So that means who you'relistening to, who you're around
and when you're in, when in partof the wilderness season is
isolating you or redirecting youout of what put you there in
the wilderness in the firstplace.
The wilderness is there to helpyou renew your mind and restore

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your relationship with God, andthat means dropping everything
that means dying to yourself,meaning it means dying to
everything that you once wereprior to knowing God, and the
only way that Jesus, this is notsomething that you can do
within your own strength.

Walter (27:04):
The only way that you can do this is by the guidance
and the power of the Holy Spirit.
That's what separates thosethat have a relationship with
God from those who practicereligion.
Those who practice religiontries to do this within their
own strength.
Those that have a relationshipknows.
It's impossible for me to dothis in my own strength.
The only way that I can do thisis through the power of God, and

(27:26):
I can speak to this.
I can testify to thispersonally because I was that
person that was religious at onepoint.
I was that person that tried todo it within my own strength,
and I felt it was only after myencounter with Jesus.
It was only after my encounterwith God November 26, 2022, that
he showed me how powerful hereally is, and he's so powerful

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that he can shift desires in you.
He's so powerful that he canremove things out of you that
was there, that he can deliveryou, that he can set you free
from the bondage of sin and youcan be free from lustful
thoughts and lustful desires andselfish thoughts and selfish
desires.
You can be free from depressionand anger.
You can be free from depressionand anger, from suicidal

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ideation and all of thesedifferent things that people
struggle with.
You can be free from thosethings, and so, with that being
the case, I think it's veryimportant that we understand the
importance of relationship, theimportance of relationship,
which will once again tie backinto what influences you.

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Right.
If you make it your duty, withincertain areas of your life, to
have a relationship with theenemy, you will receive
influence from the enemy Right,which leads to
self-gratification.
If you make it your duty tocultivate a relationship with
the father and truly submitevery area of your life to him,
you will receive favor from thefather that will provide

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influence in all different areasof your life.
Right.
All different areas.

Shanea (29:05):
Right All and when you receive favor from the enemy,
that means you are beingfaithful to him, he recognizes
you, and this ties back to thecontroversial they don't like to
hear it but me recognizing youis not saying that I, I see you.
I it can mean I see you, butrecognizing someone is providing

(29:29):
them with favor, you know.
So satan can recognize you andsay hey, you, you know what, I
recognize what you're doing Ilike what you're doing.
You know I'm going to elevateyou here's the.

Walter (29:39):
Thing.

Shanea (29:40):
I'm going to elevate you .

Walter (29:41):
We hear this all the time Um, we hear this all the
time All of the rappers, all ofthe R&B singers, all of these
people say God.
I just want to thank you forthis.

Shanea (29:53):
So let me get this straight You've been waiting to
say this for a long time.

Walter (29:57):
Let me get this straight you just created an entire song
centered aroundself-gratification, lustful
desires, sexual immorality,drugs.
You've belittled women.
You've done all of this mess.
You've belittled men.
You've promoted violence.
You promoted everything youmade yourself into a god I mean,

(30:19):
you create you in that song.
You put everything in there.
That is not god murder.
That goes completely contrary tothe life that god has called us
to live like you literallypromotes flesh, and then you
think that that is God isblessing you, and then people
think that it's God that'sblessing you and promoting you.

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God can give you the gift, butthe gift can be used to glorify
the enemy.
The gift can be used to glorifythis world.
The gift can be used to glorifyyour flesh.
So there is a differencebetween.
We have to look at the fruit ofthe people too.
What are your fruit?
Right.
If God is truly the one behindit, we will see it within your

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fruit.
We will see it within yourcharacter.

Shanea (31:02):
The thing.
The problem is people don'tknow what God looks like.

Walter (31:06):
That's true, because very few people that we actually
look to to lead us know God.
No God.

Shanea (31:12):
And how you know and we're telling you, this is why
we have this podcast, Mm-hmm.
When people glorify God, thatis God.
Mm-hmm.
When they don't use Istatements that is God.
Mm-hmm.

Walter (31:32):
Like Joseph, this is not me who is interpreting these
dreams.
He made it clear both times.
This is God.

Shanea (31:33):
He said it clear both times.

Walter (31:34):
This is God.
He said it to the cupbearer andthe army bearer.
I don't interpret dreams.

Shanea (31:38):
God interprets dreams.
He uses me.
Oh see, I'm trying to see ifI'm too loud.

Walter (31:45):
No, but that's true.
And to you what you statedearlier in Matthew 7, 21,.
It says Not everyone who callsout to me, lord, lord, will
enter the kingdom of heaven.
Only those who actually do thewill of my Father in heaven will
enter.
On judgment day, many will sayto me Lord, lord, we prophesied

(32:07):
in your name and cast out demonsin your name and performed many
miracles in your name.
But I will reply I never knewyou Right.
Get away from me, you, you whobreak God's laws, or you work of
it, worker of iniquities, asNew King James Version.
So I'm sorry.
What Jesus just said is I sawwhat you did, right, but I don't

(32:28):
recognize you.

Shanea (32:29):
Exactly.

Walter (32:31):
So I'm sorry for those who feel like every marriage
that you choose Let me say it inthe camera I'm sorry for those
who feel like every marriagethat you choose and the people
that you chose to be withoutside of God is something that
God is going to bless andrecognize.
Jesus just told us that youdon't, you're not, you're not
recognized.

Shanea (32:48):
I don't give you any recognition.
I don't give you anyrecognition?

Walter (32:51):
He said turn away from me those who break.

(33:13):
God's laws and then, beforethat, he said this is for those.
Let's say this again noteveryone who calls out to me,
lord, lord, will enter thekingdom of heaven.
Only those who actually do thewill of my father in heaven will
enter.
When Jesus is saying the will,he is referring to every single
area and every single part ofyour life Right the will.
You think Jesus wanted to dieon that cross from a fleshly
perspective?
He didn't.
We saw that he was struggling.

Shanea (33:26):
He did not want to die.

Walter (33:27):
Yet he did it because it was the will of the father.
So he submitted himself to thewill of the father to be
crucified even though he kneweverything that he was going to
deal with.
And I'm sorry, if you want tocome to us, no disrespect, and
cry to us about the fact thatyou don't get to choose who you
want to be with and be blessedby God, I don't know what to

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tell you.
Talk to me about how Jesusactually went through the whole
crucifixion.

Shanea (33:56):
Exactly.

Walter (33:56):
Talk to me about how Jesus was beat.
Talk to me about how he wasbeat beyond recognition.

Shanea (34:01):
He could have chose not to.

Walter (34:03):
Talk to me about what Jesus went through, how Jesus
gave up his life for us and wentthrough all of that pain.
Then you want to talk to meabout you wanting to pick who
you want to be with because youwant to be moved by your flesh.
This is the wrong podcast.
This is the wrong situation forthat, because we teach you to
be led by the spirit of God, andthe spirit of God alone.

Shanea (34:23):
Yeah, we don't teach self-indulgence.
Wrong place, wrong placethere's plenty of podcasts.

Walter (34:28):
For that.
There's plenty of people thatyou can go and listen to.
There's plenty of people thatyou can go and listen to.

Shanea (34:32):
For that there's plenty of people that will tell you you
should indulge in behaviorsthat's going to bring you
pleasure.
Exactly.
That's going to bring you joy.
Exactly.
Jesus dying on a cross didn'tbring him pleasure.
It did not but pleasing hisfather brought him pleasure.

Walter (34:49):
It brought him pleasure and joy and it impacted the
lives of so many to come, somany that existed prior and
those that existed during thattime Because of what Jesus did.
It led way to us being able tohave access to the Holy Spirit.
It provided us direct access toGod.
It restored that brokenrelationship.

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Paul said that we are in thebusiness of reconciliation.
All of us should be in thebusiness of reconciliation.
All of us should be in thebusiness of reconciliation.
Part of reconciling man back toGod, part of that is also
teaching man that you don't getto do what you want to do.
You want to allow the HolySpirit to lead and guide every
single part, in every singlearea of your life.
It ain't easy, it's not I getit.

(35:30):
It's hard, it's challenging.
We all have to go through this.
Yet if you want to have afulfilling relationship with the
Father, you have to submit sothat you can experience God's
favor.
Because the biggest thing thatwe look at, even with Joseph,
because of who Joseph was andhow he submitted himself to God

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and how he had the relationshiphe had with God and the fact
that he cultivated that saidrelationship, it prepared Joseph
, so he was ready for the momentwhen not only God yet men
needed him the most Imagine ifJoseph was not in that place to

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be able to interpret that saiddream and provide Pharaoh with
the said wisdom, in order topreserve half of the world from
a famine that was not going tochange.
The famine was going to come,which is why he had two dreams.
Joseph said this was God's wayof telling you that this is
finalized.
He's forewarning you.

Shanea (36:35):
That's right.

Walter (36:40):
So your relationship with God is not just about you.
You've said this before, allright, so we literally just had
a little situation happen towhere everything went off
because of what we were about tosay.

Shanea (36:49):
Literally lights off, cameras off, mics off, lights
off, everything off.

Walter (36:56):
And it was not a power surge, because those lights
didn't go off.

Shanea (37:01):
Yes, they did.

Walter (37:01):
Those lights went off too.
They went off the living roomlights too, everything went off.

Shanea (37:05):
Okay, it was pitch black in here.

Walter (37:07):
It was not a power surge .

Shanea (37:09):
No, because nothing tripped.

Walter (37:10):
Nothing tripped.

Shanea (37:11):
We would have had to go back downstairs to the breaker.

Walter (37:12):
And reset the breaker.

Shanea (37:14):
So so that means we have to absolutely say what we were.

Walter (37:18):
And we are going to say it, we were going to talk about
it and come against every singledemonic force that is tied to
them.

Shanea (37:23):
Exactly.

Walter (37:24):
So here's the thing we are touching on and this is what
we're saying the mindsets, thismindset of what, and this is
what we're saying the mindsets,this mindset of what so?

Shanea (37:48):
the idea of doing as thou will is a satanic phrase.
So, you doing what?
You want, doing as thou will,doing as thou pleases, is
demonic, it's satanic.
And it promotes self-indulgence.

(38:08):
It promotes selfishness.
It leads people to believe thatthey can have influence without
accountability.
Exactly.

Walter (38:20):
Which is very dangerous.

Shanea (38:21):
You can't do what you want.

Walter (38:23):
No.

Shanea (38:26):
Because when you do, you hurt other people.
Exactly.
And you're in directdisobedience to God.

Walter (38:32):
And the modern example of this I'll say this is Elon
Musk's son.
We came across a video recentlywhere him and his son was in an
interview and his son saidsomething that was so
interesting, and I don't blamethe son, because the son is a
child.

Shanea (38:48):
He's a child.
He's learning it from hisfather.

Walter (38:50):
He's being influenced and he said we will quietly do
what we want.
He said we would do what wewant to do quietly.

Shanea (38:59):
We will quietly do what we want.

Walter (39:01):
And this is very dangerous because this echoes
this deception of choosingself-will over God's will.
And so I'm going to go aheadand speak on it, and I don't
care.
There are those out here whofirmly believe that our current

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leadership is under theinfluence of God.

Shanea (39:27):
In deep waters.

Walter (39:29):
And let me tell you something God is righteous, god
is holy.

Shanea (39:40):
That's right.

Walter (39:41):
God don't pick and choose when he's going to be
righteous and holy.

Shanea (39:44):
That's right.

Walter (39:46):
God is not going to say that I'm against the LGBTQ+, I'm
against abortions, I'm againstall of these things.
Yet your character, you can dowhatever you want.
I'm cool with you lying.
I'm cool with you stealing.
I'm cool with the chaos that'sassociated with you.
I'm cool with racism.
I'm cool with all of thesethings.

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No, he's against it all.

Shanea (40:10):
I'm cool with you banning foreigners, even though
that's exactly what Jesus toldus not to do.
Exactly.
I don't remember what verse itis.
I think it's in Isaiah.

Walter (40:21):
The whole Bible is centered around the fact of you
assisting those who are lessunfortunate, so it is very
ungodly for you not to, and I'mso sorry.
God is not on either side.
God is not a Democrat and Godis not a Republican.
God is God.
So stop trying to make itappear as if God is this

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conservative or God is thisliberal person.
He's neither.
The system itself in general iscorrupt.
Both parties of the system iscorrupt.
So stop saying one is aSatanist and another is
glorifying God, when everyonecan see who knows God that
they're not.
And I am sorry that we havepeople out here who are leaders

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who are literally up for thehighest bid.
The reality of the fact of thematter is this right here, there
have always and there willalways be prophets of men, and
they have always and they willalways be prophets of men, and
there have always and there willalways be prophets of God.
That's right and the prophets ofGod has always stood on the
side of righteousness, holinessand sanctification.

Shanea (41:25):
No matter the persecution, no matter the
persecution, no matter thepersecution.

Walter (41:31):
Daniel was not friends with King Nebuchadnezzar
Shadrach.
Meshach and Abednego was notfriends with King Nebuchadnezzar
?
No, shadrach, meshach andAbednego was not friends with
King Nebuchadnezzar.
No, because even when they cameto them and told them to do
something that went against God,we have this in here.
I think that's Daniel 3.
It's Daniel 3.

Shanea (41:45):
Daniel 3.

Walter (41:47):
King Nebuchadnezzar wanted everybody to bow down and
worship him.
Sound familiar.

Shanea (41:52):
Well, daniel, one and two and three.

Walter (41:54):
They wanted everybody to bow down and worship him.
He created a gold statue.
He said I want you to worshipme.
Whenever you hear thesetrumpets, whenever you hear
these sounds, whatever you'redoing, you stop and you bow down
and you worship me and youworship my gods.
Interestingly, because I'mdoing this?
Because the enemy did not wantus to speak on this, which is

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why he's trying to shuteverything down, but he don't
understand that God is greater.
And we're not scared, and we'renever scared because we serve
God.
We serve God, whether you likeit or not, I don't care.
I'm not here for you to like me.
They said this is verse 16,after he wanted them to bow down
.
Let's read all of this.
Let's see Verse 12.

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But there are some Jews,shadrach, meshach and Abednego,
whom you have put in charge ofthe province of Babylon.
They pay no attention to you,your majesty.
They refuse to serve your godsand do not worship the gold
statue you have set up.
Verse 13.
Verse 13.

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I would give you one morechance to bow down and worship
the statue I have made when youhear the sound of musical
instruments.
But if you refuse, you will bethrown immediately into the
blazing furnace.
And then what?
God will be able to rescue youfrom my power?
Verse 16, shadrach, meshach andAbednego replied O

(43:31):
Nebuchadnezzar, we do not needto defend ourselves before you.
If we are thrown into theblazing furnace, the God whom we
serve is able to save us.
He will rescue us from yourpower, your majesty.
But even if he doesn't, we wantto make it clear to you, your
majesty, that we will neverserve your gods or worship the

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gold statue you have set up.
The Bible says later on that hethrew them into the furnace.
He made it seven times hotter,to the point to where the
soldiers that threw them in died.
Right.
And then it says verse 24, verse23.
So Shadrach, meshach andAbednego, securely tied, fell

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into the roaring flames Verse 23.
Four men, unbound, walkingaround in the fire unharmed, and
the fourth looks like a God.
The Bible lets us know later onthat he actually had them
removed and he said that itlooked like it was an angel that
was walking with them.
Right.
They were unbound when they gotout the fire.

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It says verse 27,.
Then the high officials I'msorry officials, governors and
advisors crowded around them.

(45:08):
Verse 27.
Then Nebuchadnezzar said praiseto the God of Shadrach, meshach
and Abednego.
He sent his angel to rescue hisservants who trusted in him.
They defiled the king's commandand were willing to die rather
than serve or worship any Godexcept their own God.
Therefore I make this decree Ifany people, whatever their race
or nation or language, speak aword against the God of Shadrach

(45:31):
, meshach and Abednego, theywill be torn limb from limb and
their houses will be.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
The problem with the church, the body of Christ is
you don't know God.

Walter (45:51):
There's very few that really do know God, because if
you do know God, you could seethe enemy a mile away, right,
and you will stop saying thatpeople who are not of God is of
God, because we're talking aboutinfluence and we're talking
about favor, right, and what wefail to realize is, just like
God can provide favor, the enemycan provide favor.

Shanea (46:12):
Right, the enemy can provide favor Right.
The only difference is God'sfavor is eternal.

Walter (46:17):
God's favor is eternal and it is connected to
relationship, and relationshipbrings forth change of character
.
You can't say that you have arelationship with God yet you
are still a horrible person,right?
Because the first thing thatGod does before he elevates you
this is scriptural the firstthing that God does before he

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elevates you is he changes you,because God is drawn to a person
with a humble heart and abroken spirit.
That's who God is drawn to.
That's why the Bible said Davidwas a man after God's own heart
.
And yes, david struggled withthings, but it's post David.
Now we have the spirit of God.

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Right.
So the Bible tells us.
Paul says that now you areempowered to be free from the
laws of the power of sin.
So if you want to know ifsomeone is being led by the
spirit of God, listen to whatcomes out of their mouth.

Shanea (47:15):
Look at their fruits.

Walter (47:16):
Look at their fruit, look at their character.

Shanea (47:18):
Are they throwing everyone who goes against them
into a burning fire?
Exactly.
Are they anyone that goesagainst their word?
Exactly.
Are they throwing them into afurnace?
Exactly.

Walter (47:29):
Is it chaos that follows them?
Is it corruption that followsthem?
Is it?

Shanea (47:34):
lies and deception.
Is it chaos that follows them?
Is it corruption that followsthem?
Is it lies and deception?
Is it?

Walter (47:36):
deception that follows them.
Because even when you look atJesus because people like to do
this with men who are corruptmen Jesus never had someone say,
oh oh, he's out here having sexwith this person.
He's out here having sex withthat person.
He's out here sleeping withthis person.
He sexually assaulted thisperson.
He did this.
He's lying about this, he'slying about that, he's doing

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this.
They told Jesus that he haddemons assisting him.

Shanea (48:02):
That's it.

Walter (48:02):
They had an issue with Jesus' doctrine, not Jesus'
character.
His character was never defamed.
It was clear what his characterwas.
They were questioning what hewas doing because he was doing
things they never seen before.
Spiritually, he were performingmiracles.
Right.
And he was here saying that Iam the son of God and he was
going against their theology hewas going against their

(48:24):
religious theological views.
So please stop saying thatpeople who are corrupt, men who
are corrupt, are of God, whenclearly they are not Do with it
as you may.

Shanea (48:37):
And God is not going to place someone in a position who
is corrupt.

Walter (48:44):
Unless he's passing judgment upon you Unless he's
passing judgment.

Shanea (48:48):
And he's giving you over to your idols.

Walter (48:50):
Even in that God didn't give them Saul, they chose Saul
Right.
God gave them David.
Right.
You see the difference, you cango and you can read on the
difference between Saul andDavid.
Mm-hmm.
Even when God made David king,the first thing God did with
David is he took him through theprocess.

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He processed David.
He processed David.
He didn't throw David out therewhen David was not prepared.

Shanea (49:20):
Right.

Walter (49:21):
The people chose Saul, god chose David.
Right.
The people chose Saul based onthe statue of how he looked and
how it seemed to be.
God chose David based on theinward parts, his heart, his
subconscious, his inward being.
So stop saying that God hascalled corrupt men that the

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people have chosen.

Shanea (49:47):
And that God can change anyone.
Yes, he can, but he's not goingto put someone who is corrupt
to lead his people.
No.
This is why he's not on eitherside.

Walter (50:00):
So, whether you like it or not, this entire system has
been created by a demonic occultsystem.

Shanea (50:11):
Yes, the system is occultic.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
It goes all the way back to Babylon.
So the system is a cultic.
So this system goes all the wayback to babylon.

Walter (50:15):
Corrupt okay, the system has always been corrupt.
The only difference is you hada moment in time where you had
the daniels, you had theezekiels, you had the zacharias
you had the jeremias, but theynever went alongside the king.
They always went with the voiceof god, which is why many
people did not like the prophetsof god because, they said that
you're bringing me bad news oryou're bringing me good news.

Shanea (50:37):
sometimes You're mostly bringing me bad news.
That's why I don't like goingto you.
I only want to hear people.
Who is going to validate mythoughts?

Walter (50:47):
Exactly.

Shanea (50:48):
My opinion.

Walter (50:48):
So anything void of consecration, holiness and
sanctification is not God.
Anything void of consecration,holiness and sanctification is
not God.
I'm sorry, that is who God is.
It's not by your own power.
No.
But that is who God is.
So just because the enemydidn't want us to say that, we
said it.
We are currently in a situationright now where we are seeing

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so many people in the church andin the world that is
misconstruing the favor of theenemy for the favor of.
God and it is very dangerousbecause people are choosing
their God.
I see so much stuff that isjust disgusting.
It is disrespectful to thespirit of God, it is
disrespectful to our father, itis disrespectful to our Lord and

(51:40):
savior, and I am disgusted withit.
The fact that you areworshiping people, the fact that
you are idolizing people andthe fact that you are leading
people astray to do the samething you should be ashamed of
yourself.
You should be ashamed asleaders.
You should be ashamed ofyourself.

Shanea (51:58):
Right, because we were listening to a man of God and he
was going over a video and Iwas like, okay, well, what does
this man say about what thislady said?
And I was like, well, what didgod say about what the lady said
?
What did god say?
Because?

Walter (52:16):
I don't care about what men say.
I care about what god says andthe issue, what you're going to
begin to see.
First of all, there's going tobe very few people that we can
listen to absolutely we alreadyknow this and there is very few
leaders that has not beencorrupt.
There are very few prophets.
Very, very, very, very, very,very, very few prophets I know
of personally.

(52:36):
I would count on one hand.
That actually is truly stillsaying what God is saying.
And the reason you know they'resaying what God is saying is
because they're not saying thatwe're just this is not a
political podcast, but we'rejust speaking in general.
They're not saying oh, god iswith Kamala Harris.
They're also not saying oh Godis with Trump.
They're also not saying, oh Godis with Kamala Harris.

Shanea (52:53):
They're also not saying oh God is with Trump.
They're also not sayingKamala's a Satanist.
They're also not saying Trump'sa Satanist, exactly.

Walter (52:58):
They're saying that God is.
He's not in neither this iswhat God told me.
God is on God's side.

Shanea (53:04):
Right.

Walter (53:05):
And we know that to be true because we also know what
God told us.

Shanea (53:14):
God is on God, god's side.
The thing that God dislikes iswhen you idolize something.
So if God has elevated thisperson, this person would let
everyone in the world know thatit was God.

Walter (53:24):
But, more importantly, their character was showcased,
that God is doing a work in them.
So the things that you said,like when I encountered God and
this is the beauty, this is whatgrace and people get grace
misconstrued and prayerfully,god allowed us to do a podcast
or episode on grace becausethere's different types of grace
, there's different grace fordifferent things and we got to

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get ready to go, but there'sdifferent types of grace, so
there's grace for you to come toGod as you are.
Yeah.
There's grace to say okay, I'mout in the world, I'm doing all
of the crazy things and Godsaves me.
And God says you don't changenothing.
You come to me as you arefilthy and disgusted and all of
this mess, and just focus onhaving a relationship with me

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and I will change you.
We saw this grace with Jesusand his disciples.
He called them from where theywere and they did life with him
and he discipled them and theybegin to shift and change their
ways as they walked with him.

Shanea (54:19):
Right, but they had to come up from among everyone,
including their families, Evenwhen their family members died.
Jesus said you can go, but youshould probably stay here with
me if you want to be my disciple.
And they didn't go.

Walter (54:34):
Yet one of the key things that we have to remember,
and this could be an episode initself when God won't let us
speak on it.
He's letting us speak on this,so we are, but this can be an
episode when, in itself, if youare a leader, the greatest
leaders are the most humbleleaders, and the greatest
leaders are actually servants,the leaders that serve the

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people.
And if God has called you, godwould never call a man that is
prideful.
God would never call a womanthat is prideful.
He will always call someonethat is humble.
God will allow you, as thepeople, to choose a prideful
leader.

Shanea (55:17):
Right, because he's not a dictator.

Walter (55:19):
Exactly Because he is not a dictator.
So why in the world, if God isnot a dictator, he will call a
dictator to lead you.
He forewarned the people aboutSaul.
They still chose him.
He let them succumb to theirown devices.

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They suffered for some time.

Shanea (55:45):
Then God said now I will send you my leader and, and the
thing is, while we haveprophets and some people are
calling them false prophets,we're not always going to get it
right.
Right?
No, because we're beinginfluenced.

Walter (56:03):
But Shanae, there is a difference.

Shanea (56:05):
Yes.

Walter (56:05):
Between outright.
Oh, absolutely Saying to peoplethat God is for something that
is not wholly consecrated andsanctified.

Shanea (56:13):
I'm talking about how they're interpreting, how
they're coming to thisconclusion.
But there is a difference.
They're coming to thisconclusion through dreams or
visions and through other people.

Walter (56:24):
Nope, there is a difference.
You are a prophet.
I'm sorry, I'm not going togive you a pass with this.
There is a difference betweenyou telling the, telling people
that my daddy, that my father isfor corruption, that my,
because it's twisting the truth.

Shanea (56:41):
I know I'm not.
I'm not disagreeing.

Walter (56:43):
It's twisting the truth.

Shanea (56:44):
It's definitely a deceptive spirit, for sure.

Walter (56:47):
It's twisting the truth, it's a lying spirit.

Shanea (56:49):
You're trying to get people to believe, but that's
because they've been open to it,because of who they have been
around.
What?
They have been listening to.

Walter (56:57):
Well, paul said this.
Paul said never think morehighly of yourself than you
really are.

Shanea (57:04):
Oh yeah, because you don't know everything.

Walter (57:05):
So Paul was really consistently reminding us you
have to humble yourself, youhave to remain in a state of
humble being humble humility.
The minute that pride seeps in,you begin to have some issues
you should always be in a stateof learning.

Shanea (57:19):
Even if that, even if it's something that you don't
agree with, you shouldn't beoffended by it.
If you get offended bysomething, that's something in
you that's saying ah, I need togo to god about this.

Walter (57:28):
Why am I?
I need to go.

Shanea (57:30):
I need to go to god about this.
Why am I being offended?

Walter (57:32):
and this went left real quick.
But I think it's because I mean,but we're almost, we're almost
done but this is all actuallydealing with influence, because
we misconstrue the influence ofgod, we misconstrue the favor of
god and we we think somethingthat is of the enemy is the
favor of god, because we we moveaway from who god is at the
core, and the bible lets us knowat the core of who God is.

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God is holy.
That's why, even when weapproach God, we have to
approach God.
The Bible tells us to take uponthe identity of Christ, because
if God looks at sin, he willdestroy it, and we have this
grace message that we'repreaching that is not of God.
Grace doesn't say that you cando whatever you want to do.

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Grace doesn't say that you canget out here and live the way
you want to live and that, oh,I'm still able to come before
God and I'm good Because Paulteaches us that if you keep
sinning, you can put yourselfright back under the control of
the law.

Shanea (58:30):
Yeah, this is true, this is very true.

Walter (58:33):
We see the example of what God has called us to in
Jesus himself.
Mm-hmm we see the example inhim.
So I'm sorry people, we got tobe careful, we got to be careful
.
So, babe, where do we go atfrom here?
Because we got caught up andpeople are going to be
influenced.

Shanea (58:52):
I was trying to find where you know I was talking
about yesterday how, when youhave faith from God and you get
influence, that comes naturallywith the favor of God, it brings
it births forth, blessings,blessings to other people, yeah,
and when you have the favor ofthe enemy, it just only serves

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you.

Walter (59:16):
It serves you and it creates chaos.

Shanea (59:19):
It doesn't really bless other people.

Walter (59:21):
It destroys them?

Shanea (59:22):
Yeah, because they have to keep coming back to you to
get a fix.
They have to keep coming backto you but more importantly they
have to keep coming back to you, to get something.

Walter (59:29):
It destroys them because the bible says the enemy come
to steal, kill and destroy yeah,because it's drawing them away
from the truth exactly it'sdrawing them away from from god.
It's pulling them into a deeperlevel of darkness, whatever
within whatever that area may be.
You know there's certain songsthat we would listen to, and I
won't speak to the artists, butthere are certain songs that we

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would listen to that was veryover sexualized, I know for me
personally, and it wouldliterally put a rise in my flesh
to make me want to do thingsthat was not good.

Shanea (59:59):
That's what it does when you and they had influence, you
didn't need to call.

Walter (01:00:03):
Exactly, they have this influence Go in places you
didn't need to go, it's becauseof the influence that the enemy
has given them.

Shanea (01:00:11):
Yeah.

Walter (01:00:11):
And this is in all regards I never understood.
Right now, we are in a time andspace of just complete chaos.
It is chaos, it is chaos and Ithink it's so dangerous what we
are doing in general, people wegot to get back to.
We have to know god forourselves holiness and

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consecration and it's holiness,consecration, sanctification and
being set apart and it's hard,it's not, it's not easy.
It's not.

Shanea (01:00:44):
It's not easy, but it's not meant to be, because we're
trying to get to the kingdom ofGod.
You have eternal life, and whowants to burn in hell?
I don't.

Walter (01:00:53):
The Bible says that narrow is the road that leads to
God or the kingdom of God.

Shanea (01:00:59):
And I'm paraphrasing and very few people find it.
Very few people find it.

Walter (01:01:02):
That's what Jesus said, that he and very few people find
it.
Very few people find it.

Shanea (01:01:05):
That's what Jesus said that.
He said very few people find it, and when you do find it, it's
hard.

Walter (01:01:08):
That's why you have to yield to the Holy Spirit, to be
guided by him to keep you onthat path, and we cannot become
distracted by all of thisfoolishness out here.
Let's say another thing Racismat the core is division.
It's a spirit of division,people, the reason that you have

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not been able to do anythingwith racism is because you have
not been attacking it in thespirit realm, that is a
principality that is as old aswe could ever think, even with
people attacking us with whatwe're saying about marriage.
That is a principality, becausewe don't.
Why is it so hard for us tounderstand that the same
structure that God have withinthe kingdom of God is the same

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structure that the enemy havewithin the kingdom of darkness
Right, and that he literallytook two thirds of heaven with
him when he fell, after he gotkicked?

Shanea (01:02:00):
out by Gabriel.
What do you think those angelsare doing?
It's a whole government system,just like our government system
mimics the system of God.

Walter (01:02:10):
There is a court in heaven.
There's courts, there's legalcontracts in heaven.
It is handled.
How do you think the people ofthis world came up with the
government system?
You think they came up with itby themselves?
There is nothing that happenedin the natural that does not
come from the spirit.
Exactly the Bible also sayswhat there is nothing new under

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the sun.

Shanea (01:02:31):
Right.

Walter (01:02:34):
This is why you need to know your word.
This is why you need to have arelationship with God.

Shanea (01:02:38):
You have to.

Walter (01:02:39):
This is why you have to be led by the spirit of God, and
my prayer to all of us is thatwe have a heavy spirit of
discernment upon us, because theenemy is very conniving.
The enemy is very conniving andwe got to be really careful.
Yeah, okay, babe, go ahead.

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I'm sorry.

Shanea (01:03:00):
No, you're good.
I don't even know where we at.

Walter (01:03:02):
We touched on everything .
We were talking about the twosources of favor, but I think we
went through, joseph.
Yeah.

Shanea (01:03:16):
I think right now you want to touch on the Antichrist
real quick.

Walter (01:03:20):
What do you want to do?

Shanea (01:03:21):
Where are you at?

Walter (01:03:23):
The two sources of favor .
The two sources of favor.

Shanea (01:03:24):
The two sources of favor We've already went through that
.

Walter (01:03:26):
We can touch on the Antichrist if you like.
Revelations 13 and 2.

Shanea (01:03:30):
Oh, Satan's false favor or God's favor?
We touched on with Joseph,right, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach
and Abednego.

Walter (01:03:40):
And this is the thing about trying to pump all of this
into a podcast and then got theHoly Spirit moving.
You go in a completelydifferent direction.

Shanea (01:03:46):
Right and then I also had Esther's story in here as
well Gave her favor, which gaveher influence Right To help the
Jews.
So God's favor is always goingto bless other people.

Walter (01:03:57):
Yes, and it's always going to be recognized, because
when you look at Daniel, whenyou look at Joseph, they always
actually point back to God.
Daniel and Joseph made it clearthat it's not me, but it's.
God and the Pharaoh and KingNebuchadnezzar, even with
Shadrach, meshach and Abednego.
They also took notice that itwas God that did it.

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So anytime it's something thatis favored from God, it never so
.
It's as simple as this.
When God is in it, glory isalways given to God.
Now we have to be reallycareful, because there is God
and then there is the quoteunquote lowercase g God of this

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world, the prince of this world.
So you still have to look andsay, okay, what type of life
you're living, because peoplesay I want to give glory to God,
but, at the core, does what youdo point people back to God?
It wasn't just glory beinggiven to God with King
Nebuchadnezzar or glory beinggiven to God with the Pharaoh.

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They recognized this has tocome from God.
Yeah.
King Nebuchadnezzar got to thepoint of saying y'all are going
to respect their God.

Shanea (01:05:10):
Because the God, even the gods I serve, wouldn't be
able to do this Exactly.
Even though he still servedthem.
He did, but it's just therecognition.

Walter (01:05:17):
Yeah, he did humble them .
It's just the recognition ofthat being the case, and so we
have to.
Really, it's so deep, shania.

Shanea (01:05:28):
It's supernatural, it's something that you can't even
really explain.

Walter (01:05:31):
No, and it's so deep and there's so many different
intricate layers in it.
The only way that you getthrough all of this is by having
a relationship with God,because it's so easy.
The enemy is so conniving, andthe thing is we got to
understand that there's twosystems at play here.
Shania, the enemy has twosystems at play.
He has the system at play thatkeeps the world going those that

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are not in the church and healso has a system at play in the
church.
Oh, absolutely, and it startedwith the church and the
challenge becomes this.

Shanea (01:06:06):
It started with the Pharisees at the very beginning.

Walter (01:06:08):
We have the church thinking that they are being led
by God Right, not realizingthat they're still being led by
the prince of this world.
Right.
Which is why they can't seesomething Right, which is why
they can't see something.
When they look at something,they don't know the difference
between it being God or theenemy, ie Jesus.

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When he came Right, they didn'trecognize that they were
literally there, within the Sonof God.

Shanea (01:06:34):
Well, they recognize it, but they lack knowledge, and
wisdom that can only come fromGod.

Walter (01:06:40):
Yes, Well, john, this is so perfect and I know we got to
get ready to go.
John said this.
Let's see.
The Bible says this, john 1,.
In the beginning the wordalready existed.
The word was with God and theword was God.
He existed in the beginningwith God.

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God created everything throughhim and nothing was created
except through him.
The word gave life toeverything that was created and
his life brought light toeveryone.
The light shines in thedarkness and the darkness can
never extinguish it.
Verse 10 says he came into thevery world he created, but the

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world didn't recognize him.
He came to his own people andeven they rejected him.
But to all who believed him andaccepted him, he gave the right
to become children of God.
They are reborn not with aphysical birth resulting from
human passion or plan, but abirth that comes from God.
So the word became human andmade his home among us.

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He was full of unfailing loveand faithfulness and we have
seen his glory, the glory of theFather's one and only Son.
During that period of time theydidn't recognize the word.
No.
They didn't recognize the Son ofGod.
Right.
Even today, in 2025.

Shanea (01:08:01):
It's still prevalent.

Walter (01:08:02):
Even today, in 2025, they still don't recognize the
word.
No.
They still don't recognize theson of God.

Shanea (01:08:09):
No, because they don't know spirit.
Exactly.
God lives in the spirit realm.
You can't know God withoutbeing in the spirit.

Walter (01:08:20):
And this went into a completely different direction,
but I think we have to.
How would you end this out?
Because we'll we have to.
How would you end this out?
Because we'll keep on going.
How would you end this out?
We can.

Shanea (01:08:30):
Well, I just want to get to this point right here.

Walter (01:08:33):
Okay, I'm listening.

Shanea (01:08:34):
Where.
What happens when we chaseinfluence without God?
Right, it's temporary, it leadsto destruction.
You see many, many powerful menand women who have a lot of
influence, but they have no soul, they don't have any good

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fruits, they don't have anypeace, they don't have any joy,
and we hear that all the time.
Money can't buy you happiness,it's only temporary right.
All these leaders, all thesepeople who are influential,
their lives are crappy and youare putting them all on
pedestals, all on pedestals.
So what do you benefit bygaining the world if you lose

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your soul?
Exactly Matthew 16, 26.
And Satan offers short-termgains and long-term losses.
We see in 2 Thessalonians 2,9-10,.
It says this man will come todo the work of Satan with
counterfeit power and signs andmiracles.
He will use every kind of evildeception to fool those on their

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way to destruction because theyrefuse to love and accept the
truth that will save them.
Mm-hmm.
So God will cause them to begreatly deceived and they will
believe these lies.
Then they will be condemned forenjoying evil rather than
believing the truth.
And this goes along to say thatGod will let you be deceived.
He will give you over to youridols, because you can just go

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straight to him, but you choosenot to.

Walter (01:10:20):
And God is the perfect gentleman.
He's not going to forceanything upon you.
He didn't force it upon Adamand Eve.
He told them he gave them achoice, they chose, they dealt
with the consequences and Ithink even as you're dealing
with this, can we go over how toseek God's favor over influence
real, quick Obedience andintegrity.

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James 4 and 4.

Shanea (01:10:45):
James, do you have it?

Walter (01:10:47):
I can get it real quick, James.
Unless you already have it, Ican get it right there.

Shanea (01:10:50):
No, I don't have it right now.

Walter (01:10:52):
Okay, let me see James 4 and 4.
Mm-hmm.
James 4 and 4 says you,adulterous, don't you realize
that friendship with the worldmakes you an enemy of God?
Mm-hmm, you adulterous don'tyou realize that friendship with
the world makes you an enemy ofGod.
I say it again If you want tobe a friend of the world, you
make yourself an enemy of God.

Shanea (01:11:09):
Right.
So you have to align youractions with God's word, not
with the world.
You have to do the completeopposite of what the world is
doing.
So if what we're saying goescompletely contrary to your
thoughts, maybe you should checkwhere your thoughts are coming
from.

Walter (01:11:27):
Because you're being influenced by something.
Right.
You're being influenced bysomething.
And then humility and trust.
Luke 2, 52.

Shanea (01:11:36):
Yeah, and I want to say that we don't listen to secular
music.

Walter (01:11:42):
Oh yeah, let's put that out, we don't.

Shanea (01:11:43):
We don't listen to anything that oh yeah, let's put
that out we don't.
We don't listen like we don'tlisten to anything that isn't of
god are you going to go to hellfor listening to secular music?

Walter (01:11:51):
no, but it will influence you to do things that
can lead you on a dark path.
Yes, because secular musichere's the thing.
Music in general, it's afrequency yes right.
You're worshiping something.
They're worshiping somethingwhen they create those songs.
Something is influencing themto create those songs, just like
you can sense the presence ofGod sometimes when you're

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listening to different worshipsongs and things of that nature,
because it's a frequency.

Shanea (01:12:17):
You can touch the frequency of heaven, or you
could touch the frequency ofsecond heaven.

Walter (01:12:22):
Of hell.
Yes frequency of hell, secondheaven of hell.
Yes, so you um, you gotta bereal careful.

Shanea (01:12:34):
Is hell second, second heaven?
I don't think hell is in heaven.

Walter (01:12:36):
No, it's not, so you can touch the frequency of heaven.
Second heaven is just thespiritual realm but you do have
the spiritual realm too.
Now we're getting intodifferent stuff too.

Shanea (01:12:43):
Yeah, so yeah.
Third heaven is heaven.
That's where God dwells.

Walter (01:12:47):
Okay, so you got to be careful of what you're listening
to, but once again, even withmusic, god had to deliver us.
He delivered me from that towhere I had no desire or passion
for it, and even if I hear itplaying like when we go into a
store, it just grieves the HolySpirit within me.

Shanea (01:13:01):
We also don't watch movies anymore that has a ton of
sexual or explicit contentContent cursing, all of that
stuff, yeah, if it's mature, wefast forward through all that
type of stuff.

Walter (01:13:13):
We take it very serious when people are partaking in
witchcraft and movies.
Yes, magical stuff.

Shanea (01:13:17):
If we ask God, should we watch this movie?

Walter (01:13:19):
We yield it to the Holy Spirit.
But they're going to say say,you're doing too much, I don't
care, we don't care.
Because it keeps us at peace inour home.
Exactly it keeps us at peace.
So humility and trust.
Luke 2, 52,.
It says Jesus grew in favor bysubmitting to God's process.
When you're obedient and followGod's decrees, you obtain favor
from the Lord, and so yeah andso, yeah.

Shanea (01:13:41):
so Luke 2 52 talks about how I believe it's when Jesus,
when he comes home, after hismom and dad had been looking for
him, and and by his obedience,mary took that in place in her
heart, and so it's in.
And it goes on to say I don'tknow if you have pulled it up.

Walter (01:14:05):
No, I didn't, Because we're running through it now.
I just wanted to touch on somepoints Luke 2, 52.

Shanea (01:14:12):
Yeah, Luke 2, 52.
Jesus grew in wisdom and instature and in favor with God
and all people.
So that's with favor with Godand man, yes, but it's the
obedience, so that's with favor.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
But it's the favor of God that leads to favor with
man.

Shanea (01:14:26):
Yes, but it's the obedience that leads you to
favor in the people, because,directly before that, jesus was
being obedient to his parents.

Walter (01:14:37):
But Jesus' only concern was being obedient to the Father
.

Shanea (01:14:41):
Exactly, but he was showing that he was obedient to
his Father.
By being obedient to God's Wordmeaning obeying your parents.

Walter (01:14:47):
Yeah, which is why, once again, your number one priority
is just really thatrelationship with God, exactly.
Jesus was always concerned withhis relationship with the
Father.

Shanea (01:14:55):
Exactly Pleasing his Father.

Walter (01:14:57):
Which digs into seeking God, not status, exactly.
Favor comes from him, fromseeking him not chasing
platforms Right and and thefavor comes from him from
seeking him, not chasingplatforms Right and then.

Shanea (01:15:07):
That's Proverbs 14, 12.

Walter (01:15:09):
Faithfulness in the small things Matthews 25, 23.
Influence comes as a byproductof stewardship, so I think all
of this is good.
Yeah, takeaway, because we'vetouched on a lot of stuff.

Shanea (01:15:21):
Yeah.

Walter (01:15:22):
What would you say your takeaway would be with this babe
, because we've touched on a lotof stuff.

Shanea (01:15:29):
Yeah, what would you say your takeaway would be with
this babe?
Literally, my takeaway would beto build a relationship with
God.

Walter (01:15:34):
Everything.
Everything, every podcastepisode ends with that building
a relationship with God, becauseit's what's going to lead you
to everything else.
So my final thought would beinfluence without God.
Building a relationship withGod, because it's what's going
to lead you to everything else.

Shanea (01:15:44):
So, like I have a final, my final thought would be
influence without God is anempty pursuit, but favor from
God brings influence thatchanges lives.

Walter (01:15:56):
So choose wisely.

Shanea (01:15:57):
Yeah, you should choose.
Do you want to change lives ordo?

Walter (01:16:03):
you just want self gratification, and if you want
self gratification, that's fine.
I mean, it's your choice tomake.
Which is, once again, likewe're not telling people oh, you
got to do this, and I don'tknow why people are getting
upset.
We're just saying that if youwant to have a relationship with
God and you want God to blesswhat you do, you have to submit
your entire life to God.
Yeah.

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You don't have to.
You don't have to we, for meand my household.
We will serve the Lord, we willserve the Lord, but, as for you
, you can either choose to servethe Lord or choose to serve any
God you want to serve yeah,that's my ending.
Serve yeah, that's my ending.

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And how?

Shanea (01:16:48):
that, how you make that decision, will determine who
provides you with the favor thatyou're seeking Right and what
type of influence you have.
Do you want eternal influence?
Do you want eternal favor withGod or with man?

Walter (01:17:00):
For me, it's more important to God, for God to
look at me and say well done.
Exactly, it's more importantfor the heavens to rejoice
because I'm doing the will ofthe Father.
Exactly, it's more importantfor the heavens to look like,
even if no one knows your name,it's just like I know, I'm doing
what God has told me to do inevery area.
God knows my name God knows myname, which is so important.
Yeah, it's more important thathe knows you, not you know him.

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You know of him, but does heknow you?

Shanea (01:17:30):
that's favor yeah that's god recognizing you oh,
absolutely, god saying, I knowyou exactly job.
He recognized job yes, have youseen my servant?

Walter (01:17:39):
he wrecked.
He spoke of job.
Okay, we're gonna end, so ifthis uh episode has been a
blessing to you, please like,share, comment, subscribe.

Shanea (01:17:51):
Yeah, please share your testimonies on how God has
favored you, or if you'restruggling with anything, please
send us a DM.
We can probably answer somequestions.

Walter (01:18:02):
Yeah, we can.
We still have to be led by thespirit of God, and one of the, I
think, the the greatest thingsthat we want to teach people and
want people to take away fromthis is you have to have your
own personal relationship withGod.

Shanea (01:18:15):
This is what this podcast is for.
Yes, for you to build and builda relationship.

Walter (01:18:20):
Cultivate your relationship with God.
So I think that's it, and wewill see you all next week.

Shanea (01:18:27):
Be blessed have a one, have a good one, I'm a one.