Homecoming: Repentance & Redeemed

Have you ever given God some of your heart but held back the rest, especially relationships? The prodigal son gives us a profound blueprint for genuine repentance and restoration in our relationship with God and others. Walter and Shanea unpack this powerful parable, revealing how true transformation begins when we're broken enough to surrender everything.

Most of us approach God selectively—we give Him parts of our lives while keeping other areas firmly in our control. The prodigal son reached such desperation that he was willing to give up his identity as a son to become a servant in his father's house. This level of humility marks true repentance, where pride dies and we recognize that everything we have belongs to God in the first place.

Walter and Shanea challenge listeners to consider areas they've been withholding from God, particularly relationships and marriages. They address the difficult truth that many Christians remain in covenants formed outside God's will, believing they must stay despite abuse or mistreatment. "Submit your marriage to God for review," they emphasize, explaining that God doesn't necessarily honor covenants He didn't establish.

You’ll also discover the powerful parallel between the father’s sacrifice of the fattened calf and God’s sacrifice of Jesus for your redemption. Just like the prodigal was welcomed home and made “alive again,” this episode is an invitation to come back to the Father and experience spiritual rebirth

If you’ve been wrestling with surrender, questioning a relationship, or longing for a deeper connection with God, this episode is for you. Tune in, be challenged, and let’s take one more step together toward healing, clarity, and freedom. 

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Episode Transcript

Walter (00:01):
Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith,
where, together, we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat relationship with God can
impact the relationship you havewith others.
I'm your host, walter.
I'm joined here alongside mylovely wife.

Shanea (00:14):
Shania.

Walter (00:16):
This is episode 22.

Shanea (00:19):
Yes.
I think so.

Walter (00:24):
We always.
Well, first and foremost, we'reat episode 22.
Thank you for sticking around.
Yes.
And we appreciate everyone thathas been following us and that
has been a part of what God hascalled us to do, and we hope
this has been a blessing to youall.

Shanea (00:43):
Yes, we thank you very much for you all.

Walter (00:44):
Yes, we thank you very much for we thank you very much
for sticking around I know myhusband has to try and remind me
because I'm kind of soft-spokenyeah, so I try to remind her to
speak up a little bit, but yougot it.
So, um, I prayed last week.
We do like to start theseepisodes off with prayer, so my

(01:08):
wife is going to lead us intoprayer real quick before we get
started this week.

Shanea (01:13):
All right.

Walter (01:14):
Okay.

Shanea (01:15):
Father God, we thank you for this day.
We thank you for your love andyour grace and your mercy,
father God, that you've shown us.
Father God, I ask that you willopen up our listeners' ears and
eyes to hear and see what it isthat you are saying, what your
heart is saying.
Father God, that you will openup their eyes from religious

(01:35):
spirits.
Father God, that you will givethem a heart.
Father God, after your ownheart, thank you, father God,
for using us as vessels to speakyour word, to speak your truth.
In the mighty name of Jesus, wepray Amen.

Walter (01:54):
Amen.
So, Bae, what is the title ofthis week's episode?

Shanea (02:01):
This title is called Homecoming, Repentance and
Redeemed.

Walter (02:10):
Repentance and Redeemed.
Okay, so how did we come upwith this?

Shanea (02:19):
It was given to you, was it?
Yeah, I mean the title wasgiven to me, me, but the I guess
the parable of the prodigal sonyeah yeah, and so the prodigal
son.

Walter (02:34):
I, I think the thing I was struggling with and I was
praying on.
I'm like, okay, god, what doesthis have to do with
relationships?
And you know how does this tieinto?
Because we know the story ofthe prodigal son, we know the
point that jesus was making whenhe um spoke about the prodigal
son.
But I'm like, okay, but whatdoes this have to do with

(02:54):
relationships?
So that was a challenge and Iguess we're going to dig in,
because god gave me somerevelations and God also gave
you some Sure.
What's wrong?

Shanea (03:05):
No, I'm just trying to look at this.

Walter (03:10):
Okay.
So before we get started, let'sdo some housekeeping
Housekeeping.
Yes, not really housekeeping.
But listen, everyone has beenfussing about some of the stuff
that we've been discussing aboutrelationships, marriages, etc.

(03:33):
I'm sorry this is offendingy'all, but I'm not sorry.
The reality is that we have somany people that has been in
broken marriages andspecifically it impact men, but
it impact women on a major scale.
Where women are in marriageswhere they're being abused,

(03:56):
mistreated, cheated on and thechurch consistently tell them
that it's God's will for them tostay in those marriages.
Yeah, that is God's will forthem to stay in those marriages,
yeah, and they feel a falsesense of conviction from the
church not from God, but fromthe church and from the enemy
and they remain in bondage foryears, sometimes decades.

(04:16):
There are those we have themgrandmothers who stayed in
marriages where they died, inmarriages where they spent their
entire life being mistreatedand cheated on, and so many
people are getting mad at usbecause we're saying that's not
God.
It's not God, it's very demonic.
Yes, and to have someone thinkthat they're stuck in a marriage

(04:37):
, a covenant that they createdRight, or even sometimes their
pastors or their parentsencouraged them to get into
outside of God is wrong.
Yeah.
And we're going to continue totell them it's wrong.
And we're going to dig intothat tonight, when you're

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supposed to submit everything toGod, but we will continue to
tell people that they don't haveto remain in bondage.

Shanea (05:03):
Right.
The blood breaks all covenantsthat are outside of God's will.

Walter (05:07):
Yes.

Shanea (05:08):
And that includes marriage.
It's not just any othercovenants you've made.
Exactly it's like when it comesto marriage.
That's like off limits, that'send, all be all Once you get
married.
That's it, because God hatesdivorce.

Walter (05:23):
Yes, and it's not the case yeah so we really have to
um, just understand that.
That's just the reality of whatit is, whether you like it or
not right.

Shanea (05:33):
If you made a decision outside of god, he he doesn't
have to honor it.
No, he's not going to honor itbecause it's not in his will
yeah, so that's and you can stayin that marriage, but you will
probably go through hell andpeople tell you to stay in that
marriage and go through hell andpray it through, exactly.
But you we're saying that youdon't have to go through hell,

(05:54):
that you should go and submityour relationship to god first
because you made the covenant,not god yeah sometimes we do
have situations where,unknowingly, we'll fall into a
covenant before we're supposedto.

Walter (06:08):
That was God ordained, but it just wasn't the right
time.
That's a difference, which iswhy we consistently tell people
to submit it all to God.
Yet, if you are in a marriageand it's so dangerous because we
have people, we have evensomething that's going viral,
which is very dangerous, wherewomen think that it is okay to
remain in marriages and that Godhas graced them to go through

(06:31):
hell, and God has not graced youall to go through hell from
this sense, we have to stopmaking women feel as if it is
their duty and theirresponsibility to pray men who
are morally corrupt throughtheir moral corruption.

Shanea (06:46):
Right, or you have this culture that teaches you that
you have to be a ride or die.

Walter (06:52):
Yes, it's not biblical, the Bible.
Lets us know if you can commitadultery you already have a way
of getting out of that marriageoff the rip.
You're not committed to stayingin that marriage just because
they committed adultery.
But I think we have to take ita step further and understand
that anything outside of God,anything outside of something

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that God has brought together,is not of God.
It does not fall into theconfinements of divorce.
Matter of fact, one of the mostcontroversial things that we
would say and people may notlike and we'll move on is that I
won't say that to them.

(07:33):
They're not ready for it.
Okay.
I'll leave that alone.
All right, they really will bein the uproar.
Okay.
If they found out the marriagesthat they're in?
Yeah, we'll leave that alone.

Shanea (07:47):
Yeah, we have to take that to God.

Walter (07:48):
Yes.

Shanea (07:49):
But that's where you know, paul's wisdom comes in.
Paul's wisdom comes in.

Walter (07:57):
And people don't understand.
The interesting thing is theyuse 1 Corinthians 7 so much.

Shanea (08:03):
So much, but they forget all the other scriptures, one
of the most powerful things wesee in 1 Corinthians 7.

Walter (08:05):
So much, so much, but they forget all the other
scriptures, one of the mostpowerful things we see in 1
Corinthians 7, right.
Which is so controversial isPaul was so full of the spirit
of God that he understood how toseparate between the two and
say this is me, paul, speakingand not God, and then say this
is a command from the Lord.
This isn't a command from theLord.
This isn't a command from theLord.

(08:26):
This is Paul giving you wisdombased on what I understand
things to be, because you'realready in sin.

Shanea (08:33):
Exactly Because you're already outside of God's will.
So these are my thoughts.

Walter (08:37):
Based on you being outside of God's will Exactly.
Yet the scripture that peopleforget, that Paul stated towards
the end of that, is it would bemy desire for you all to remain
single, and that's a train,yeah, so.

Shanea (08:52):
We'll just keep talking.

Walter (08:53):
Yeah, you may hear a train in the background.
I don't know, it's whatever,but Paul stated that it was his
desire for them to remain single, and so they don't think about
that part, so, but we're goingto leave it alone and we got to
keep going.
We go back to Paul, but let'sstart with.
Jesus said Right.
In Matthew 19.
But this is a completelydifferent topic.

(09:15):
We're going to get into theprodigal son and true repentance
, because we got off into atangent.

Shanea (09:21):
You said you want to do some cleanup.
Yeah, it's it into a tangent.

Walter (09:23):
You said you want to do some cleanup.
Yeah, it's just letting peopleknow.
So where do we begin with thisbabe?

Shanea (09:32):
Where do we begin with this?
I guess we can start off atLuke 15.

Walter (09:38):
Chapter 15, verse 11.

Shanea (09:40):
So if you guys have your Bible, if not, we will read it
for you.

Walter (09:44):
This is NLT Trying to keep an eye on time.

Shanea (09:53):
Do you?

Walter (09:53):
want me to read it.
Do you want to?

Shanea (09:54):
read it If you got it.

Walter (09:56):
Okay, okay.
So verse 11, and we would sayread the entire chapter so you
can have an understanding ofwhat Jesus was referring to.
But verse 11, to illustrate thepoint further.
Jesus told them this story.
A man had two sons.
The younger son told his fatherI want my share of your estate

(10:18):
now, before you die.
So his father agreed to dividehis wealth between his sons.
So his father agreed to dividehis wealth between his sons.
A few days later, this youngerson packed all his belongings
and moved to a distant land, andthere he wasted all his money
in wild living.
About the time his money ranout, a great famine swept over
the land and he began to starve.

(10:39):
He persuaded a local farmer tohire him, and a man sent him
into his fields to feed the pigs.
The young man became so hungrythat even the pods he was
feeding the pigs looked good tohim, but no one gave him
anything.
When he finally came to hissenses, he said to himself At

(11:00):
home, even the hired servantshave food enough to spare, and
here I am dying of hunger.
I will go home to my father andsay Father, I have sinned
against both heaven and you andI am no longer worthy of being
called your son, please take meon as a hired servant.
So he returned home to hisfather and while he was still a

(11:21):
long way off, his father saw himcoming.
Filled with love and compassion, he ran to his son, embraced
him and kissed him.
His son said to him Father, Ihave sinned against both heaven
and you and I am no longerworthy of being called your son.
But his father said to theservants Quick, bring the finest
robe in the house and put it onhim, get a ring for his fingers

(11:44):
and sandals for his feet andkill the calf we have been
fattening.
We must celebrate with a feast,for this son of mine was dead
and has now returned to life.
He was lost, but now he isfound.
So the party began.
Meanwhile, the oldest son wasin the fields working.
When he returned home, he heardmusic and dancing in the house

(12:06):
and he asked one of the servantswhat was going on.
Your brother is back, he wastold, and your father has killed
a fattened calf.
We are celebrating because ofhis safe return.
The older brother was angry andwouldn't go in.
His father came out and beggedhim, but he replied All these
years I've slaved for you andnever once refused to do a

(12:28):
single thing you told me to.
And in all that time you nevergave me even one young goat for
a feast with my friends.
Yet when this son of yours comeback, after squandering your
money on prostitutes, youcelebrate by killing the
fattened calf.
His father said to him look,dear son, you have always stayed

(12:49):
by me and everything I have isyours.
We have to celebrate this happyday, for your brother was dead
and has come back to life.
He was lost, but now he isfound.
That was a lot we just read.
Yeah.
So where do we go from here,babe With the parable of the

(13:10):
prodigal son.

Shanea (13:11):
You want me to take the lead today?
Sure, but this was given to you, babe.

Walter (13:17):
It was, but we gone.
Okay, we'll go with it, it'sokay.
So well, the focus of thisentire podcast, or this episode,
is basically highlighting thejourney of the prodigal son as a
blueprint for repentance.
Right, so we can start here.

(13:40):
True repentance begins withsurrender.

Shanea (13:48):
So that first point, babe, do you want to dig into
that?
Well, I think from the verybeginning you could see from the
parable, just in general, thatthe son was a son of a man who
was wealthy and he inherited hisriches, yeah, and he decided

(14:10):
that he wanted to do what hewanted to do with that
inheritance and go off.

Walter (14:15):
He wanted his will to be his own will.

Shanea (14:18):
Right, he wanted to do what he wanted to do and many
times it's just a parable of us,parable of the lost son, which
is a parable reflecting the lostsheep, and the father is
actually God, the father and theprodigal son is us it's really

(14:43):
a reflection, like you said, andthat's good that the desire to
take whatever we have that Godhas gifted us with and use it
for our own glory, use it

Walter (14:55):
to satisfy our own flesh , our own fleshly desires,
versus remaining in what it isthat God has called us to remain
, and doing the will of theFather, the Father being the
Father to the Son.
And so that's really aninteresting approach, because
even within relationships right,it's the same thing.

(15:16):
We have the will of God wherehe's willed for us to be with a
particular person, and then wehave our own desire.
Right, so we will go and wewill give something sacred.
Right, we will give somethingsacred to someone based on who
we want to give it.
To get caught up in some mess.

(15:40):
And the unfortunate thing is,unlike the prodigal son, we stay
in the mess.
Right.
We keep digging deeper into themess.
That is completely outside ofGod's will.
Let's switch this out to wherethere, even in those moments and
times for both women and menwhen you're being mistreated,
you're being misused, you'rebeing abused, you're being
neglected, and you know that howyou're being treated, this is
not how you're supposed to betreated, yet you dig in deeper

(16:04):
into the mess Even though youknow deep inside, something is
telling you this is not right,this is not normal, this is not
how life should be.

Shanea (16:14):
Right, but that's because you have accepted Jesus
Christ right, and so now youhave the Holy Spirit living in
you, and so when we talk aboutbeing adopted, being God's
children, our spirit is now onewith his spirit.
So now we have Romans 8, 15through 17 that says so.

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You have not received a spiritthat makes you fearful slaves.
Instead, you received God'sspirit when he adopted you as
his own children.
Now we call him Abba, father,for his spirit joins with our
spirit to affirm that we areGod's children, and since we are
his children, we are his heirs.

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In fact, together with Christ,we are heirs of God's glory.
But if we are to share hisglory, we must also share his
suffering.
So we have, god has adopted usas children, and so we do have

(17:22):
his spirit intertwined with ourspirit.
And that's that intuition, thatknowing I shouldn't do this.
But then you have your flesh,which is the world saying I'm
gonna do it anyway, which iswhat the prodigal son did being
driven by your soul.

Walter (17:41):
Yes, it's really your flesh being driven by, or you
allowing your soul to drive yourlife, instead of it being this
spirit that drives your soulwhich drives your life.
A lot of us are so soulishlydriven.
We're stuck in our soul.
And then that's another thing.
A lot of times, unfortunately,as Christians, even as quote

(18:02):
unquote believers, I would saywe're very soulish.
Or, you know, you would saycarnal.

Shanea (18:08):
Right, because we were born into sin.

Walter (18:11):
And our mind has not been renewed.
Paul touched on I think that is.
Is it Romans?
What chapter is that?
Is that Romans one?
I just when he talked to him,it's not Romans one.
He talked about being carnalhaving milk.

Shanea (18:29):
Oh, I'm not sure which scripture that is.

Walter (18:33):
I just read it earlier this week.
Okay, it's actually, it's 1Corinthians 3 and 2.

Shanea (18:40):
Okay.

Walter (18:40):
That Paul touched on, that.
He talked about how he comparedit to you still being driven by
your flesh.
And.
I want to get there 1Corinthians, and then we'll move
on.
Okay 1 Corinthians 3, chapter 2,nlt.
Paul said let's see, and we'llstart with verse 1.

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Dear brothers and sisters, whenI was with you, I couldn't talk
to you as I would to spiritualpeople.
I had to talk as though youwere, you belong to this world,
or as though you were infants inChrist.
I had to feed you with milk,not with solid food, because you
weren't ready for anythingstronger.
And you still aren't ready, foryou are still controlled by

(19:26):
your sinful nature.
You are jealous of one anotherand quarrel with each other.
Doesn't that prove you arecontrolled by your sinful nature
?
Aren't you living like peopleof the world?
This is verse one through versethree.
First Corinthians, chapterthree.
First Corinthians, chapterthree, paul.
Paul compared spiritualimmaturity to you, being sinful,

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yeah, and still being moved byyour flesh.

Shanea (20:04):
That's because and this goes into, I think, the next,
and I'm going off- my notes thatI had previously.
So we just going to go with theflow.
So the reason why that is andI'm going to come back to this
whole sacrifice thing- Don'tleave me in the trenches,
because I don't know where youat.
I'm not going to leave you inthe trenches, but so.
So in this we're supposed to betalking about basically the

(20:27):
restoration, because we're we'reGod's children.

Walter (20:33):
Did we get past point two?
True repentance begins withsurrender, or are you skipping
around?

Shanea (20:40):
We skipped that because we were already talking about
the child of God.
Okay, we just, we just justgonna go with the flow okay, and
you're aware I am.

Walter (20:55):
I'm still in three okay, all right, go ahead then okay,
I'm still, I'm still in three.
Are you yeah, okay.

Shanea (21:06):
Yeah, we are born dead because of sin.

Walter (21:08):
Okay, and Christ?
Well, let's.
So we're going to come back totrue.
Repentance begins withsurrender right, Because I think
that's so important.

Shanea (21:17):
I think it's really important, but I think we should
start at the beginning.

Walter (21:20):
Okay, okay, go ahead then.

Shanea (21:22):
Mm-hmm, okay, okay, go ahead.
So when we're, we're driven byour soul, right, because when
sin entered the world, when adamwas created, you have your, you
have your spirit, right, andyou have your, your soul.
And then you have your physicalbody, right, and so when they

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ate of the fruit, their spiritwas disconnected from their soul
, because what was binding thetwo together was God, god's
spirit.
So you have your soul and youhave your spirit, and you have
God's spirit, which is makingyou all one.

(22:02):
So your spirit is leading,basically your soul, it's
dictating what your soul takesin or does.
Yeah.
So after the fall of man, you'rewhat?
Spiritually dead, yeah Right.
Or spiritually unalived.

Walter (22:20):
Like, your spirit is still there, but you're not
you're not connected.
You're not connected to thespirit.
And yeah, spiritually you areessentially dead because you
can't see in the spirit.

Shanea (22:29):
No, and god is what spirit?
He's a spirit, and so you'renot connected.
You're not connected to god,and so now all you have is your
soul.
Yeah, you're not connected toGod.
And so now all you have is yoursoul, yeah, which is driven by
the enemy.

Walter (22:42):
Yeah, which is because I was thinking about from the I
was thinking also about fromlike the dark realm.
But once again, they have tostart doing something.
I'm working through it in myhead.
They have to start doingsomething to get their spirit
back to seeing something.

Shanea (22:59):
Right, but that start, but that's through your soul and
that's through demonic forces,because now you're connected to
Satan, which is the enemy, butyou're not connected to God.

Walter (23:11):
And we're not encouraging that.
I'm just working through it inmy mind.

Shanea (23:14):
But is what I'm saying making sense?
Yeah, yeah, okay go ahead.

Walter (23:18):
I was trying to process through it, but okay.

Shanea (23:21):
I know it can be a little deep and if I could draw
a picture, I'd draw a picture.
No it's fine, okay, but that'swhy we're driven by our flesh,
is because we're being moved byour soul, because our spirit
isn't connected to God's spirit.
That's why we have to be madealive again.

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We have to be born again.

Walter (23:43):
Yeah, we have to so and we're trying to figure out what
to say, but I guess say we haveto die to self.
Yeah.
And go through a rebirth process.
Yet I think we touched on thisin a different episode, just to
kind of add to it and hopefullyit even further simplifies it.
Maybe not, but when Adam andEve sinned, like you said, it

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disconnected them from thespirit, where they was driven by
the spirit who was connected tothe spirit of God, and it
connected them to the soul, andnow they were now driven by the
soul.

Shanea (24:18):
It was a disconnect, which is what you're saying.

Walter (24:21):
Yeah, and the soul is really centered around the
wisdom of this world.

Shanea (24:26):
Right.

Walter (24:27):
Is what drives it.

Shanea (24:28):
Right, and so now you're reconnected back to God, right,
your spirit, man, and God'sspirit is now connected back
together.
You have a conscious there, butnow your conscious is so full
of sin that you have to renewyour mind, because now your soul

(24:48):
is more dominant than yourspirit.
Okay, and you have to buildyour spirit up so that your
spirit is the one that's leadingyou instead of your soul,
because you're used to your soulleading you.
That's why you have to die toself, and your soul is your will
, your mind, your emotions, allthose things which is your flesh

(25:09):
, which you have to die to.
Yeah, Okay.

Walter (25:16):
That makes sense.
I'm looking through the notes.

Shanea (25:19):
Okay.

Walter (25:23):
And everyone will.
Really, there's a millionthings, because I'm trying to be
mindful of time too, so we tryto keep this down to an hour and
we have so much informationconsistently that we're wanting
to get through to to you all.
So where would we go from there, babe?

Shanea (25:35):
so, um, from here I think I I have down Ephesians 2,
1, 5, but we don't have to readit and we could just make note.
And I believe that's justtalking about being born again.

Walter (25:56):
Ephesians 2, 1, 5.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, if you want toread it real quick, you can.

Shanea (26:06):
No, we don't have to.
We'll just make note Ephesians2, 1 and 5, and then John 3, 3
through 7.
Okay.

Walter (26:16):
And this is things that you all can read.
We're trying to be mindful ofyour time and not keep you here
long.
So what is the?

Shanea (26:27):
relevant, the relevant, the relevancy of this.
All is like in the garden.
So the son, the prodigal son,he had an inheritance, just like
Adam and Eve, right.
And he left it, and he found outshortly that he could do what
he had an inheritance, just likeAdam and Eve right, and he left
it, and he found out shortlythat he could do what he wanted
to do, but it didn't mean thatthat's what he should have done.
And so, like many of us today,just because we can do something

(26:53):
doesn't mean that we should.
Just because Adam and Eve couldeat from the tree they
shouldn't have.

Walter (27:01):
Yes, and I think with us , we get caught up in the
situation of just saying that wecan, so we're going to do it.
We get mad when people tell usthat you can do that, but God is
not going to bless that Exactly, and that's where the
disconnect comes.
Exactly it's like, yes, I knowthere's free will and, yes, I
know that I should do what Godwants me to do, but in this

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particular area, I want to dowhat I want to do.
And then, if you dig furtherinto it, we don't want to accept
the a situation where you aredealing with the consequences ie

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curses et cetera, that'sassociated with your
disobedience Right, becausethere were consequences to what
Adam and Eve did.

Shanea (27:53):
Oh yeah, absolutely, because God's ultimate design
was for them to be fruitful andmultiply in his image.
But instead of multiplying inhis image, they multiplied in
the enemy's image, because Adamdidn't have the spirit of God.

Walter (28:08):
Yet the beauty of that and maybe I'm jumping ahead with
the prodigal son and the pointthat Jesus was making is now the
son of God has come to redeemyou, right, if you choose.
Exactly To turn away like theprodigal son did.
Yet I think we'll dig into more.
There are things that theprodigal son did which showcased
what true repentance looks like.

Shanea (28:30):
Right, so Right, but Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice,
and that's why I wanted to goback to that.
And we can talk about it now orwe can go back to it later.

Walter (28:40):
Which part.

Shanea (28:41):
It's actually the first part.

Walter (28:46):
So true repentance requires a willingness to
surrender everything, and that'swhat I was talking about the
prodigal son and this wassomething that stood out to me
as I was taking notes.
The prodigal son was willing tolet go of his birthright,
accepting the position of aservant out of humility.
And that was so deep becausethe prodigal son was royalty.

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Yet there was this idea of likeokay, listen, I'm willing to
forego all of that just to be inmy father's house, because I
know, even as a servant, I willbe treated better.

Shanea (29:24):
Right, I'm out here eating and looking at the pigs
and I'm starving and they'reeating better than I am.

Walter (29:29):
Yes, they have food to eat.
I have nothing.
He's like even the servants inmy father's house is treated
better than this.
So even if I have to go backand work as a servant, so there
was a recognizing and you maydig into this deeper but there
was.
First, he recognized that hewas wrong.
Right, he recognized that hewas wrong.
There was a moment of waking upand saying, okay, I'm wrong in

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what I did.
Let me go home and seekforgiveness for my father.
Yeah, so that digs back into.
For a lot of times people havethat moment where they wake up
and say, whatever it may be,this is wrong.
I should not be dealing withthis Right and at the worst of
whatever it may be, if I just goback to my father's house, the

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worst still isn't like this.

Shanea (30:15):
Yeah, even at the worst.
Yeah, but what gets us is theenemy places.
Shame on us, because we'vealready made a decision.
No different than people in achurch saying, oh you can't, you
know, get out of that marriage,or you can't do this, or you
gotta go, or you're already inan abusive relationship and
you're like, oh well, I chosethis, so I now I gotta stay here
, otherwise people gonna thinkthat I'm crazy, because I should

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have left in the first placeand I got to prove them wrong.
So then you got pride there.

Walter (30:44):
But it's like it's something in the prodigal son
and what he did, the parable.
Oh he's humble, that's it.
He's humble, it's humility,it's such a great level of
humility that he came to.

Shanea (30:56):
You have to humbly come before the Lord.

Walter (31:00):
Yeah and repent.
It's like, almost like a senseof brokenness.

Shanea (31:02):
Yes, you have to be brokenhearted.

Walter (31:04):
Because what happened actually when we read, if I'm
not mistaken and I don't likemisquoting scripture, so we're
going to go back to Luke Because, if I'm not mistaken, he
thought about for a momenteating what the pigs were eating
yes, and he was like for amoment, eating what the pigs
were eating?
Yes, and he was like, no, I'mnot doing this.

Shanea (31:23):
And so yeah, verse 16.

Walter (31:26):
Yeah, the young man became so hungry that he that
even the pods he was feeding thepigs looked good to him.
So it was this moment, like heeven like it's such a level of
brokenness to get to a point ofsaying like I'm even thinking
about this and no, I can't dothis, and so I think that was

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really important.

Shanea (31:47):
You had to get to the point where you're just like I
don't care anymore.
No, I know there has to besomething better.

Walter (31:52):
I gotta be free from this.
I gotta be free.
I gotta be free from this.

Shanea (31:56):
I don't care what nobody thinks.
I don't care what nobody says,because my father in heaven is
going to forgive me.

Walter (32:02):
So, as you stated, then pride is replaced by humility
during genuine repentance.
You know that you're movingtowards that place of repentance
where there's no more pride.
Pride dies yeah, your pridedies.
Brokenness brings forth a debt.
It brings forth humility.
And where do we go from here?

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Because if we going I'm tryingto be mindful we got about 30
more minutes or so.
Okay 35 more minutes.
Where do you want to go fromthere?

Shanea (32:30):
Oh, I guess we can just keep going, because we can just
keep going to where, we can justkeep going to where where do
you want to go?

Walter (32:46):
I see what you're doing.

Shanea (32:48):
Because you kind of backed up a little bit.

Walter (32:50):
I think that was.
It was just so important to getthat in.

Shanea (32:54):
I think everything that we're saying is important, it's
just trying to fit everything inin a timely manner so that you
guys aren't just sitting here,because this could be like two
hours.
Oh, absolutely.

Walter (33:04):
So our inheritance?
Let's see where would we go,our inheritance as children of
God, we have free will, misuseand consequences.
Can we dig into free will,misuses, misuse and consequences
?
I think that's really good,because that's a touchy subject

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that a lot of people strugglewith.

Shanea (33:28):
Yeah, yeah.
So, like I said before, likejust because we're able to do
something which we have freewill.
Adam and Eve had free will andthey chose to to do something
and now they have to deal withthe consequences of their
actions.
And a lot of times we put Godin this box like he's not a

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father.
If my child does something andI told them not to do it and
they do it anyway becauseobviously they can't, I can't
force their hand to stop them todo it.

Walter (34:02):
They're still going to get in trouble.
Yeah, yeah, and I likesomething that you put here, and
this is first Corinthians fourand seven, and you can read that
if you want to go there realquick.
But what you have here is theson wasted his father's money,
just as we sometimes misuseGod's gift and resources for
getting, and this is yeah, yeah,yeah.

Shanea (34:26):
I have here like I mean, like, how silly is it that the
son took his father's money touse it for his own purposes,
when the money wasn't his tobegin with?

Walter (34:41):
It belonged to the father.

Shanea (34:42):
Exactly.
So why not listen to the fatheron how to use the money, so
that you would be just asabundant as your father?

Walter (34:51):
And the scripture that we have here for those who
struggle with this is 1Corinthians 4 and 7.
And it says for what gives youthe right to make such a
judgment?
What do you have that Godhasn't given you?
And if everything you have isfrom God, why boast as though
there were not a gift?
It belongs to God.

Shanea (35:10):
It belongs to God.

Walter (35:11):
It all belongs to God, so you're to submit everything
back to God, your entire life.
You're to submit that back toGod?

Shanea (35:17):
Yeah, we choose what to do with God's gifts and his
resources, like it belongs to us.
And we never consult him on it,on how to use the gifts or
spend his resources.

Walter (35:29):
And this is key.
You said we defile what God hasgiven us, but repentance is the
way back into rightrelationship with the Father and
sometimes we try to get backinto right relationship with the
Father without true repentance.

Shanea (35:44):
Absolutely.

Walter (35:45):
And we saw what true repentance looks like in the
beginning when we were talkingabout that.
But repentance is what's best.
Even with the gift you may havethe gift you may have all of
these things, yet the way to getback into right standing is
repentance.
Oh absolutely, and you havehere Luke 15, 13, Acts 3, 19.

Shanea (36:05):
Yeah, I'm looking up Acts 3, 19, which says and now
repent of your sins and turn toGod so that your sins may be
wiped away.
Then times of refreshment willcome from the presence of the
lord and he will again send youjesus, your appointed messiah so

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, and let's see repentance.

Walter (36:30):
We talked about what repentance looks like, and I
think we're going to dig intothis as well, but repentance is
totally turning away from thebehavior that you was doing
before.

Shanea (36:39):
Oh, absolutely, it's a complete turn around.
So, like even the prodigal son,he chose to live the life that
he wanted to live and he knew heand that's the other key is
like you have to takeresponsibility for making
decisions outside of God.
You did this, you chose thatjob.
You chose that spouse.

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You chose that career.
This, you chose that job.
You chose that spouse.
You chose that career path.

Walter (37:03):
You chose that house.
You chose that house.
You chose that car, you choseit all.

Shanea (37:07):
You chose that church.
You chose everything.
So you can't be mad that yourcar breaking down and your house
got demons and stuff isthrowing and going on everywhere
.
Your relationship is trash yourfriendships are trash.

Walter (37:22):
You have to get to a point, to where you're like God.
I did this.

Shanea (37:25):
Yes.

Walter (37:25):
And I think even we got to that point.
Oh, absolutely.
I did this and help me.

Shanea (37:30):
Yes.

Walter (37:31):
Please like, just help me.

Shanea (37:32):
Whatever that looks like , you can't blame anyone else.

Walter (37:35):
No.

Shanea (37:36):
You made these decisions Now.
Your decisions might've beeninfluenced else?

Walter (37:40):
No, you made these decisions.
Now, your decisions might'vebeen influenced, and is it a
situation and what we're sayingto the ladies and men?
But I know, unfortunately, men,we just got to keep it a
hundred a buck fifty.
It happens more to women.
So we're not saying, when wesay this, that you're not right
in the fact of saying thatyou're being treated wrong.
Okay, what we're saying is justreally accepting the fact that

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you made that decision.

Shanea (38:02):
Yes.

Walter (38:02):
And sometimes we look for others to help us get out of
something that only God can getus out of.
Oh, absolutely.
And so it's not necessarilylooking both men and women.
You can't look for someone elseto answer this question for you
because they can't answer thatquestion.

Shanea (38:18):
Or you can't look for someone to validate you staying
or leaving.
That's god you made thedecision, so you now you have to
go submit that decision to godfirst.

Walter (38:29):
There's nothing wrong with counsel or anything like
that, but you made a decision soyou got to make the final
decision based on the counsel,final counsel or the most
important counsel you can get,which is from God, which is why
the other podcast episodes aregood, where we touched on how to
hear the voice of God, becausewhen you're standing on judgment
day, it's just you.

Shanea (38:46):
It's not you and who counseled you Exactly.
It's just you.

Walter (38:50):
Exactly.
So I'm looking at time, butwe're going to move.
We, where were we?
We touched on that.
Yeah, free will misuseconsequences and let's see, we
touched on that, let's dig intorepentance restores what was

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lost.
So that first point we havehere right, and this is what I
think was really so importantwhen I read the parable the son
recognized his sin, confessedand was restored.
He regained access to what hehad all along.

Shanea (39:28):
Right, which was his inheritance.

Walter (39:32):
But he didn't even care about the inheritance because he
came back and he said listen,can I just be a servant?

Shanea (39:37):
I just want to be in your presence.

Walter (39:38):
He forwent his sonship.

Shanea (39:42):
And that is key.
So when you're coming to God,you're not going to him to get
anything from him.
You just want to be in hishouse.
You just want to be in hispresence.

Walter (39:52):
And that's with everything, everyone, because
unfortunately and we touched onthis, I think, in the previous
episode everything istransactional.
You can't go to Godtransactional.
You have to go to God and sayGod, I just want you.

Shanea (40:06):
That's why you seek him first.

Walter (40:08):
Seek ye first, the kingdom of God and all his
righteousness and all of thesethings shall be added Matthew 6,
33.
So when we're seeking him,we're not seeking him saying
give me, give me, give me, giveme.
We're seeking him, we're notseeking him saying give me, give
me, give me, give me.
We're seeking him by saying God, I just desire to be close to
you.
Exactly Even when you look atSamuel, we read the scripture
when he was in the temple.
I think that's 1 Samuel,chapter 3.

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I believe, if I'm not mistaken,when he was in the temple.
Don't quote me.
I believe it was 1 Samuel,chapter 3 or chapter 2.
He was in the temple just doinghis due diligence.
Yeah, he wasn't seekinganything from the Lord.
Right.
And him just being in closeproximity.
It was like, okay, let me speakto you.

Shanea (40:49):
This is so good.
This is so good Because theprodigal son just recognized I
was wrong.
Let me go and repent to myfather, and I just want to be in
his house because all he hearsis trash.

Walter (41:01):
So, even if I'm here as a servant, I will forego my
sonship just to be back in thehouse with my father and I will
serve him Exactly, giving upeverything I had before Exactly.

Shanea (41:12):
And what did his father do?
Restored him.
He restored him, but it wasbecause of where his heart was,
absolutely.

Walter (41:18):
It was his heart.
He came from a broken place.

Shanea (41:21):
Yeah.

Walter (41:21):
And so you touched on this.
That second point the brothermisunderstood, not realizing he
already had access to everything.

Shanea (41:30):
Yes, yes.

Walter (41:31):
He became jealous.

Shanea (41:33):
The brother was upset, but he didn't recognize what he
had.

Walter (41:36):
No different than the brother who didn't recognize
what he had and he left yeahjust having an understanding of
what's already there, and then Ithink the thing that was so key
to me and it ended up sayingthat he was brought back to life
.
His son was brought back tolife yeah, so this, this is.

Shanea (41:59):
This was the revelation that I got after when I was
reading this.
Um, um, the, the brother, wasso upset that the father
slaughtered the fattest cow fora sacrifice for the son coming
back home and.
And what does it say, babe, inthe scripture?

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I have to pull it back up.

Walter (42:24):
You're talking about.

Shanea (42:25):
Luke.
Luke 15, 31.
Because I'm in Acts, I'm sorry.

Walter (42:30):
I'm in Corinthians.
Luke 15, 31 says that hisfather said to him Look, dear
son, you have always stayed withme and everything I have is
yours.
We had to celebrate this happyday, for your brother was dead
and has come back to life.
He was lost, but now he isfound.

Shanea (42:48):
Exactly so.
That was key for me, becausethe revelation I received was
Jesus dying on the cross.
So we have already received ourinheritance from the Lord, from
God, and we are now hischildren.
But so how can I put this?

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Until we are born again inJesus Christ, we are dead.
Yes, we are dead to the world.
We are born sinners.
But until we um give our livesto christ, reunite ourselves
back with the father, we arespiritually dead, just like the
prodigal son.

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But then, when we give our lifeto christ, we're renewed, we're
restored, we we're alive.
We're made alive through theblood of Jesus Christ, which was
the ultimate sacrifice.
The father sacrificed theirfattest cow.
So in comparison to God, god'ssacrifice is only begotten son.

Walter (43:55):
For us, yeah, john, 3, 16.

Shanea (43:57):
So that we can be restored to life Right.
That's the revelation Ireceived for us, so that we can
be restored to life Right.
That's the revelation Ireceived and I was like dang,
that's so key.
He's literally saying Godsacrificed.
God made the ultimate sacrificefor us to live and to be free
so that we won't be lost anymore.

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Yeah.

Walter (44:24):
Through Jesus Christ.
They got so much going ontonight but go ahead.

Shanea (44:28):
I know you hate those trains.
Trains, planes, Cars planes welive by.
Oh, I can't say where we liveby.
No, we don't even say where westay by and we'll leave that
alone.

Walter (44:39):
But yeah, and I think that digs into now repentance in
relationship and marriage.
Often we think making God thecenter of our relationship is
enough was something that wascoming to me as I was writing
everything down.
It's like we seriously thinkthat making God the center of
our relationship is enough.
Like we seriously think thatmaking God the center of our

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relationship is enough, when, infact, true surrender means
giving the entire relationshipover to God, not just making him
a part of it.
So this includes allowing Godto reveal whether our covenant
marriage or relationship wasestablished by him or not.
And that's the challenge.
Yeah, that's the challenge thatbecomes hard for us to do.

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Yeah, because the church willtell you that, now that you are
saved, your marriage is okaybecause you got it right by just
getting married.

Shanea (45:34):
The church teaches us to get married.
No, the church teaches us,excuse me, to move off of our
soul instead of our spirit.
But they don't teach you how toconnect yourself really back to
the spirit, living in thespirit, knowing God's spirit.

Walter (45:48):
So once again, it's wrong.
Two Christians coming togetherand getting married is not
enough.
That doesn't mean that themarriage was ordained by God.
I have sisters in the faiththat are Christians.
If I would have married them, Iwould have been outside of the
will of God, because God hascalled for me to be with Shania.
Vice versa Shania has brothersin the faith.

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If you would have married them,she would have been outside of
the will of God.
If the church would tell youthat, you being a Christian and
her being a Christian, and aslong as I fit into whatever it
is you want to be with, and viceversa, it's good, but that is
fleshly based and that istransactional.
It's soulish, that is soulishand transactional.
So we are in error because weteach people to be moved by our

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own feelings and our own flesh,instead of being led by the
spirit of.
God, and we are called to submitall of that to him.

Shanea (46:40):
And we're not supposed to be moved by our feelings or
emotions.
No, so for everyone saying, oh,I have to feel this and I have
to feel that.
No, that's your soul speaking,that's your flesh speaking.

Walter (46:51):
That's not based on how you feel.

Shanea (46:52):
It's not based on the heart.

Walter (46:54):
Jesus didn't feel like dying on the cross.
No, we saw that in the gardenof gethsemane.
Yes, he did not we touched onthis in the previous episode.
Yeah, the bible says that hissoul was to the on the brink of.
He was in so much sorrow thathe was on it was to the brink of
uh death, and so it's soserious where he was at because

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he knew he was going to have tocarry the sins of the world.

Shanea (47:19):
Yeah, that's why we have to pick up our cross every day
and carry it.
So, Meaning dying to self.

Walter (47:27):
So now digging further in, many dedicate their lives,
and this was something that wascoming to me.
Many dedicate their lives toGod, but withhold certain areas,
so we talked about this before.
That looks like, okay, god,I'll give you this part of me,
but I'm going to keep this otherpart of me, and for many, you
know the things that we strugglewith giving to God our career,

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our marriage relationship, wherewe're going to live, our home,
what type of car we're going todrive, our vehicles, so anything
that's related to finances andrelationship we struggle with
giving to God.

Shanea (48:02):
Oh, absolutely.

Walter (48:05):
I'll even give you the 10%, I'll give you the special
offerings here and there,because the pastor told me when
I give that to you I'm going tobe blessed.
So even me giving that to you,it's not because I'm
surrendering it to you, it'sbecause I want something from
you.

Shanea (48:17):
Right, Because the pastor said if I get this, then
I'm going to be blessed by God.
Exactly Because I gave thisamount of money.

Walter (48:27):
Transactional.

Shanea (48:28):
When that's not the case .

Walter (48:29):
No, it's never.
It's about your heart, it'sabout your heart, and so, with
that being the case, when we diginto true repentance we said
this before before it meansallowing every part of our lives
, including relationships andcovenants made outside of god,
to be surrendered and reviewedby him yes that's the challenge.

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People don't want to do it, yeah, I mean, and I don't, I don't.
I can't necessarily say it'salways the people, it's culture,
right, it's the culture ofchurch.
You're taught that yourcovenants is fine.
You're taught that the covenantof marriage is okay, that when
you're in this marriage you'restuck to this marriage.

Shanea (49:15):
You're taught, just because it looks good means that
it must be good and it must befrom God.
God wouldn't tell you to turnthat job down.
God wouldn't tell you to notget that, to not be in that
relationship.
God wouldn't tell you that.
And it's like how do you know?

Walter (49:28):
You save now.
So since you save, you know.
Paul said that you couldsanctify your spouse, but the
Bible tells us that we're towork out our own salvation.
My wife is not going to bestanding there with me when I
have to stand before the lordI'm not going to be.

Shanea (49:40):
The bible says jesus said he is coming and one's
going to be in the bed and he'sgoing to take another one.

Walter (49:45):
He's going to take the other I'm so sorry that people
think that you can sanctify yourwife or your husband.

Shanea (49:50):
You cannot so, like you can, sanctifying meaning, like
because you're blessed and savedand highly favored.

Walter (49:57):
They receive the favor.

Shanea (49:58):
They receive your favor, they receive your inheritance
because they're in closeproximity to you.

Walter (50:04):
But you cannot save them .

Shanea (50:06):
But you can't save them.

Walter (50:08):
Your life.
God can use your life if hechooses, but it's God that does
the saving.

Shanea (50:15):
Yeah, but and we were just talking about this earlier
it's like even you praying foryour spouse, you have to ask God
.
God, do you want me to pray forthem?
Do you want me to pray fortheir salvation?
They're not going to like that,I don't.
I mean it is, it's true.

Walter (50:31):
They're not going to like that, okay.

Shanea (50:40):
But, but continue, no, continue.

Walter (50:40):
I'm just letting you know, okay, okay, so you already
opened it up.

Shanea (50:41):
I done opened the box already.
You already opened it up.
So what I'm saying is it's notwrong for you to pray for other
people.
However, you don't know whatdemons they're battling.
You don't know what you'reactually fighting.
If your spiritual eyes aren'topen, if you're not being led by

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the Holy Spirit on what to prayfor, who to pray for, you have
no idea what you're fighting.

Walter (51:13):
I'm going to say this just to not leave my wife out
there by herself.
I was about to pray for afriend of mine.
He was dealing with some stuffand I'm like I'm heavy in, I'm
like you know what, I'm going topray for him.
And I begin to pray for him andmidway through I heard God
telling me did I tell you topray for him?
And I'm like no.
He's like did you ask me?

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I'm like no.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
He's like did you ask me?
I'm like no, he's like then youneed to stop praying.

Walter (51:40):
You don't need to pray for him because you're not his
God.
You pray for who I tell you topray for?

Shanea (51:45):
Right, because our bodies are not our own.
So, mind you, we have our soul,we have our spirit and we have
our body, our physical bodies.
We feel like we could do stuffbecause we have a physical body,
right, but our spirits are notours.
We have to submit that back toGod, and it's in the Bible I

(52:05):
don't remember what scripture is.

Walter (52:07):
I think even when we look at Jesus right, we miss
that.
Jesus consistently told us.
He told us a few times when yousee me, you see the Father.
When you see me going doingwhatever I'm doing, I'm doing
the will of the father.
I go where the father sent me.
I say what the father tells meto say, Exactly.
Then Jesus becomes our example,Exactly.

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So if Jesus is the ultimateexample, right then we have to
do the same.

Shanea (52:32):
Right, we have to submit even our prayers to God.

Walter (52:35):
We submit it to God.
I pray for who God tells me topray for.
Right.
I'm sorry, that's justscripture.
You may not like it, but that'sthe scripture.

Shanea (52:43):
Right, even with Judas.
God Jesus said I saved thosewho you told me to Except the
one.
Except the one that was meantfor destruction.
Yeah.

Walter (52:55):
But this will literally mess with people's religion.
But this is scripture.

Shanea (52:59):
This is Bible.
Well, we're not religious.

Walter (53:01):
Yeah, unfortunately, because we talk about different
people in the Bible.
Please everyone, I'm sorryOutside of Christ.
Christ is our ultimate example.
I respect every single prophetin the Bible, but they're not
Jesus.
So I look at them from theperspective of studying the
encounter they had with God.

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But when I look at the exampleof who I am supposed to be like,
who I am supposed to strive to,who become my go-to guide, it's
Christ.

Shanea (53:35):
And you guys test this by the spirit.
Everything we're saying.
You can totally find this inscripture.
I just don't have all thescriptures here because I I read
my bible but I don't yeah, butlet's, let's go um, let's
continue.

Walter (53:50):
Sorry, no you're fine, I went off a little bit so a
willingness to homecoming, awillingness to die to self right
.
Um, returning home to godrequires openness to severing
ties and letting go ofeverything outside of god's will

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, and that's really hard.
That's really hard.
We talked about friends, familyrelationships, jobs, career.
Are you willing to put all ofthat up on the chopping board,
the chopping block, and get ridof it if God says so?

Shanea (54:32):
yeah, that's true, discipleship.

Walter (54:36):
Jesus told the rich, young ruler, and I think I don't
know.
We have the scripture in hereand he told all his disciples
yeah, he specifically told hespoke to the rich young ruler
and he struggled with it becausehe talked about how he kept the
commandments and Jesus lookedat him and he was like it
touched his heart.

Shanea (54:52):
Jesus loved him so much.

Walter (54:53):
Yes, and it said the scripture lets us know jesus
looked at him and said okay,well, one thing you still
haven't done I need you to selleverything that you own give it
to the poor and come follow me.
The rich young ruler couldn'tdo it yeah, and you know what's
crazy?

Shanea (55:11):
it's everything that you own.
I didn't give this to you I.
I didn't give you that job.

Walter (55:18):
You did it.

Shanea (55:19):
I didn't give you that money in your bank account.
I didn't give you that spouse.
I didn't give you that car.
Give it away.

Walter (55:27):
Follow me.

Shanea (55:28):
And follow me, so I can give you what you're supposed to
have.

Walter (55:33):
And people please, because y'all going to get in
y'all feelings.
We're not saying that becauseyou became a believer, you now
have to get a divorce.
No.
We're saying that you submityour marriage to God.
I don't know how many times wecan say this Submit your
marriage to God for review.

Shanea (55:49):
Submit everything.

Walter (55:50):
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not something that you
can utilize my brothers and mysisters to get out of like a get
out of jail free card.
Yeah, oh, I don't like him, Idon't like her.
Sir, that may be what God hascalled you to be, ma'am.
That may be where God hascalled you to be.

Shanea (56:07):
But you have to renew your mind so that you can see
this person just as God seesthem.

Walter (56:11):
Exactly, exactly.
And so we have James 4 and 8,and I'll put this in here Come
close to God and God will comeclose to you.
Wash your hands, you sinners.
Purify your hearts, for yourloyalty is divided between God
and the world, and so what wesee in the prodigal son and the

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reason this was put in here iswe saw that it's an example
between God and us, right, andthat God is waiting for us to
come home and is always ready todraw near when we do.
It was on a prodigal son.

Shanea (56:55):
We see that with a prodigal son.

Walter (56:56):
As soon as he came home, his dad was there with his arms
open.
And so change heart.
True repentance equals changeheart.
Joe 2, 12 through 13.
You want to read that realquick, or do we want to?

Shanea (57:16):
Where are we at, babe?
I'm sorry 10.
Okay, joel, real quick, or dowe want to uh where we at?
Babe, I'm sorry uh 10 okay, umjoel uh.
Chapter 2, 12 through 13 okay,uh, 12 through 13 a call to

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repentance.
That is why the Lord says turnto me now.
While there is time, Give meyour hearts.
Come with fasting, weeping andmourning.
Don't tear your clothing inyour grief, but tear your hearts
instead.
Return to the Lord, your God,for he is merciful and

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compassionate.

Walter (57:59):
So repentance is evidenced by a changed heart a
turning away from behaviors thatare against God, and so the
change starts in the heart.

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We know which is thesubconscious, leading to new
actions, and we've talked aboutthis all all this, all tonight,
this entire episode.
We've talked about a truechange and what that looks like.
Right.
And that's the challenge.
Yeah.
That's the challenge.
Yeah, that's the challenge.

(58:40):
And so I think you put this inthis lies of the enemy, and
taking God for granted.

Shanea (58:46):
Oh yeah.

Walter (58:48):
You want to touch on that?

Shanea (58:52):
The enemy makes us feel what we have isn't enough,
keeping us from appreciatingGod's goodness.
Like the prodigal son's brotheror his other son, he didn't
even know what he had, eventhough he was already there.

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He was jealous, he was in themidst of it all.
He was already there.
Pro was jealous.
Even though he was in the midstof it all, he was already there
.

Walter (59:20):
Prodigal son out there struggling.

Shanea (59:21):
Yes.

Walter (59:21):
About to eat pig slop.

Shanea (59:23):
Yes, yes, yes.
And his brother was being like,but he was out there giving
money to the prostitutes.
Why are you accepting him?
And we have to be careful aboutpeople.
People are like that in thechurch and it's like we can't be

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like that.
No, we can't be like that.
We have to accept that, we haveto be, we have to be glad and
praise our brothers and sistersthat are coming into the faith,
even though, even if theystrayed away, even if they made
a mistake, those who there's allthese podcasts out here talking
about other prophets andpastors and leaders and about
all the things that they'redoing.

Walter (59:56):
And they spend the entire show downing.

Shanea (59:59):
But aren't you also sinning?

Walter (01:00:00):
Yes.

Shanea (01:00:01):
Aren't you also sinning?

Walter (01:00:02):
It's called gossip.

Shanea (01:00:04):
Aren't you also sinning and you're not perfect yourself.
You need to be praying for them.

Walter (01:00:08):
And you, at some point in your life, was where they
were.
I don't like that.
I don't like that, because youmisconstrue the scriptures.
If you don't know that brotheror that sister personally, if
you don't know that prophet orthat man of God, a woman of God,
personally, why are youspeaking out?
Because the Bible says firstyou approach them personally,

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then second you approach them.
If they don't listen, then youapproach the congregation, or
you you approach them as acongregation, or you approach
them before the congregation,then after that, if they don't
listen, you go through theprocess of throwing them out.

Shanea (01:00:43):
Absolutely.

Walter (01:00:43):
But a lot of people are missing the key point.
Y'all don't know thempersonally, Right?
So why are you talking about it?
And there is a differencebetween me going to a brother in
the faith and saying, hey, whatyou've done has offended me,
saying, hey, what you've donehas offended me.
Or then we also have to diginto, because there are
instances where there isdisagreements based on doctrine
and all of those things.
But sometimes and I'm notsaying every case it's something

(01:01:06):
in you that's creating offense.
Is it them?
Is it something in you that'smaking you become offended?

Shanea (01:01:13):
Yeah.

Walter (01:01:14):
Or are you also not realizing that nobody is perfect
?

Shanea (01:01:17):
Right.

Walter (01:01:18):
And we are so quick to push everything into someone
purposely pressing forward andtrying to spew out false
doctrine.
Yeah.
Not everybody out here istrying to spew out false
doctrine.

Shanea (01:01:31):
They may not know, they just they have a lack of
knowledge.

Walter (01:01:35):
And they may not.
It may go to who they weretaught by.
Where is the grace, when is thelove?
Where is the praying for yourbrother?
Because I know, even with us,god has revealed things to us
about leaders, and you know whathe told us to do Pray for them,
not talk about them.
Pray for them.

Shanea (01:01:53):
Right, do we listen?
No, we don't listen, but wepray for them.

Walter (01:01:59):
Do for them, right?
Do we listen?
No, we don't listen, but wepray for them.
Do we down them and say, oh,this person is no, because we
pray for them ain't nobodybusiness who god has told us
about and what he's revealed tous about them?
Right, it is our job and ourduty to pray, because he told us
to pray exactly and we continueto pray and I have love for
those and pray that they come toa place of finding the father
right, because sometimes people.

Shanea (01:02:18):
They come to a place of finding the father Right,
because sometimes people theyfall away.
They were good in the beginning, they were good on this sermon,
they was good here, but thensometimes they just fall.

Walter (01:02:26):
And sometimes they get connected to people that's not
good, and that person gotconnected to someone that's not
good and that person gotconnected to someone.
That's not good and it'sliterally.
It's just what it is notconnected to someone.
That's not good and it'sliterally it's just what it is,
but we have to understand thateven those that people are
talking about couldn't be theycan have their prodigal son
story and you're going to be alljealous and feeling some type

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of way because they've beenreceived back into the fold and
restored back.
And now you done spent all theseepisodes downing people and
you're in the comment section ofthose people downing them.
Do yourself a favor, do notfollow and feed into people like
that, because it's not good.
So you telling me that God'scalling on your life is to
insult and down everybody.
That's the only word and theonly message that you have to

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give to people is to down others.

Shanea (01:03:14):
No, our job is to teach the truth.

Walter (01:03:16):
And pray for our brothers and our sisters, as the
Father permit Mm-hmm Not judge.
No, not judge, mm-mm.

Shanea (01:03:27):
No.

Walter (01:03:27):
Sorry, I got carried away.

Shanea (01:03:28):
I know you sounded like you was a little passionate.

Walter (01:03:31):
Yeah, I don't like when they do that.
I don't like when they do that.
It's not of God.
But where were we?

Shanea (01:03:38):
No, we're back to how the enemy basically makes us
take God's gifts for granted.
We misuse his gifts even downto our own breath.
We don't thank him for itenough.

Walter (01:03:54):
You know, yeah, we defile God's gifts our body,
mind, body, mind resources whenwe use them as we wish, instead
of consulting with him right, hegave us breath, but you're out
here smoking and that's firstcorinthians 6, 19 through 20 for
scriptural reference inproverbs 3, 5 through 6 people.

Shanea (01:04:12):
He gave us a body, but we're out here defiling it
nothing, nothing is what we wantto eat doing what we want to do
with it.

Walter (01:04:18):
He paid a high price for this, a high price, and we have
to remember that.
The scripture lets us know hepaid a high price.
He paid a high price.
The Bible says, and we talkedabout this God so loved the
world that he gave up his onlybegotten son.
Yep, yep.
Yeah.

Shanea (01:04:38):
His only son Down to even defiling our own minds and
what we hear and what we watch.
This life isn't our own.

Walter (01:04:45):
No.

Shanea (01:04:45):
And we shouldn't be deciding what to do with it, and
I know it sounds crazy.

Walter (01:04:49):
Yeah.

Shanea (01:04:50):
But this, this is, this is the life that you choose.
So, you pick up your cross andyou walk.
That is picking up your crossit's not easy it's not easy,
it's.
It's dying to yourself, to yourown will and doing god's will
yeah period so how do we want toend this?

Walter (01:05:16):
do you want to go through the key takeaways real
quick, or you think they got it?

Shanea (01:05:19):
I think that, um, I think the key takeaway is to, uh
, really sit and think about allthe decisions that you've made
in your life.
Look at where you are right now, and how many of those
decisions did you for sure knowyou heard God tell you to do it.

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Submit everything to God.
God, am I exactly where I'msupposed to be?
Is this who I'm supposed to belistening to?
Is this the church I'm supposedto be going to?
Is this the pastor I'm supposedto be listening to?
Am I supposed to be at this job?
Am I supposed to be in thishouse or this car?
Submit everything, because youdon't know everything.

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God knows everything.
There might've been a Satanistwho bought that car and you over
there trying to buy it, and nowyour life is going to hell
because you bought somethingthat you shouldn't have bought.

Walter (01:06:13):
The home that you live in.
It may have been altars thatthey build up, demonic altars.
Now you're struggling andfighting through things and
dealing with things.
Are you on a job where you'redealing with satanic cult?

Shanea (01:06:23):
Right, or you're visiting, you got a new doctor
and that doctor is also not goodand probably doing stuff and
you don't even know.

Walter (01:06:31):
Ancestral worship, you know.

Shanea (01:06:32):
And you got the.

Walter (01:06:33):
They got their hands on you, you know you have to submit
, you have to, we have to get toa point.
The Bible says in Galatians 5and is it 26, 25?
It says that we are to allowthe Holy Spirit to lead every
part of our life.

Shanea (01:06:47):
And it sounds tedious, but the thing is, you guys, we
don't know everything.

Walter (01:06:50):
But it is not, and that's the revelation God was
giving me.
When you think about Adam andEve and we talk about our
subconscious right, what'ssupposed to happen is it's
supposed to become second nature, right, you know it's supposed
to become second nature for us.

Shanea (01:07:05):
But it's hard to do because now we have to renew our
minds, because we're so used tomoving in our flesh, doing what
we want to do.

Walter (01:07:12):
Yeah, so I think it's a good place to end.
Is there anything else you wantto add to it?
So I think it's a good place toend.

Shanea (01:07:20):
Is there anything else you want to add to it?
No, I guess, the only otherthing is to not be ashamed of
where you are and not beingshamed like meaning every
decision that you made andyou're submitting it to God.
Don't be ashamed to do whathe's asking you to do, because
you already you made a decisionoutside of him.
There's every time when youfollow God's will, there's going

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to be a lot of people who's notgoing to like your decisions,
and it just is what it is.
You're going to lose family.
You're going to lose friends.
You're going to lose a lot ofthings that you had.

Walter (01:07:52):
Yeah, I think the greatest thing that you have to
work on, we have to work on, isunderstanding that God wants to
deliver us from the what is itfrom people in the sense of what
they think he wants us to bedelivered from, that.
So we're not moved by whatpeople think about us.
We're only moved by what Godsays and what God thinks.

(01:08:14):
We're moved by what heaventhinks about us.
He wants to deliver us frompeople pleasing pleasing people,
and that's what happens a lotof time.
So I guess that's where we end,babe.
Do you want to?
You want to end this out?
You do it so well.

Shanea (01:08:33):
Thank you guys for sticking and listening with us
on this episode.
We appreciate you guys.
Please send in your comments,share your thoughts, things that
you may have been strugglingwith, things that you have may
overcome by the blood, and sharethis with other people.

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We know this is a good word anda lot of people need to hear it
, but this is just for ears tohear.
Everybody's not going tounderstand and we know that.

Walter (01:09:04):
It's not for everyone.

Shanea (01:09:04):
It's not for everyone, but if this is resonating with
you, kudos.

Walter (01:09:09):
Yeah, we appreciate you all.

Shanea (01:09:11):
We appreciate you guys.

Walter (01:09:13):
And we will continue to go through doing what God called
us to do, absolutely and wewill continue to go through
doing what God called us to do.

Shanea (01:09:18):
Hopefully, this continues to be a blessing to
you.

Walter (01:09:20):
Yes, so that's everything.

Shanea (01:09:22):
Yeah.

Walter (01:09:22):
We will see you next time next week Bye-bye.
All right bye.