Lust of the Eye

What begins as a harmless glance can become a destructive obsession when left unchecked. Walter and Shanea explore the profound biblical concept of "lust of the eye" and how it extends far beyond sexual temptation to encompass any uncontrolled craving that diverts our focus from God.

The hosts dismantle the common misconception that lust is exclusively about sexual desire, revealing how this spiritual principle applies to obsessions with wealth, power, relationships, and even seemingly innocent pursuits. By examining 1 John 2:16, they demonstrate how the enemy has employed the same strategy since the Garden of Eden, appealing to our flesh, our eyes, and our pride to lead us away from God's best.

With remarkable insight, the conversation traces how unchecked desire inevitably leads to spiritual perversion—not just sexual perversion, but a distortion of God's original intentions for our lives. Looking at Eve's temptation, Jesus' wilderness testing, and Job's covenant with his eyes, the hosts establish a powerful pattern visible throughout scripture.

Perhaps most challenging is their exploration of modern idolatry. Walter and Shanea identify how the ancient gods mentioned in scripture represented the same things people worship today, just packaged differently. Your car, career, relationship, or even family can become an idol when it takes precedence over your relationship with God. The critical question they pose: "What would you refuse to give up if God asked you to?"

The episode concludes with practical wisdom for believers seeking to guard their spiritual vision in a visually overwhelming culture. Every desire not submitted to God becomes a seed that, when watered, bears fruit—either fleshly or spiritual. Join us for this eye-opening conversation about how what we look at ultimately shapes who we become.

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Episode Transcript

WALTER (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith,
where, together, we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat relationship with God can
impact the relationship you havewith others.
I'm your host, walter.
I'm joined here alongside mylovely wife.

SHANEA (00:15):
Shanea.

WALTER (00:18):
So you prayed last week definitely.

SHANEA (00:21):
I did.

WALTER (00:22):
You actually ended up praying two weeks in a row.

SHANEA (00:24):
I did.

WALTER (00:25):
So my bad.
So we are believers, of course,and we like to start this
podcast out in prayer, so I willgo ahead and start us off in
prayer.

SHANEA (00:36):
Okay.

WALTER (00:39):
Father God, as we come before you this morning, we are
so grateful for your love, yourmercy and your grace.
We thank you, father God, thateven in the midst of everything
going on, that you are still Godand God alone.
We yield and we submitourselves to you.
We welcome you into this space.
We pray that you will shift theatmosphere of this place.

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Allow your presence to be felt,allow your glory to be
experienced.
Allow your glory to beexperienced.
Allow this episode to reachthose that you've called for to
reach, father God, that liveswill be changed, that lives will
be impacted.
Father God, we thank you.
Father God, lord Jesus, wewelcome you here.
We submit to you.
Holy Spirit, we yield to you.
Speak through us, take controlof this podcast.

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Angels of the Lord, weacknowledge you.
We thank you, even now, foreverything you've done and
everything you're going tocontinue to do.
As we yield and submitourselves to you Even now, god,
in Jesus' name, we pray Amen,Amen.
So what?

SHANEA (01:46):
is the name of this week's episode.

WALTER (01:48):
You have a moment.

SHANEA (01:51):
Yes, I was having a moment.
I'm sorry.
This week's episode is calledLust of the Eye.

WALTER (02:00):
Lust of the Eye, all right, and I think that was
something that God gave to me.
I forgot what I was doing.

SHANEA (02:12):
I think you confirmed that we was going to discuss
lust.

WALTER (02:13):
Yeah, correct.
So that scripture came to mindlust of the eye.
It came to me just like thatlust of the eye and when I heard
it I was like lust of the eye,am I hearing accurately?
And it's referencing aparticular scripture.
It's referencing and also we'rejumping right in.

(02:35):
I'm so sorry.
What is this week?
This is the 24th episode, right?

SHANEA (02:39):
24th episode.
We tired y'all, we are tired.

WALTER (02:43):
We are tired, we are tired, we are tired, we are
tired.
So we apologize, but we aregoing to work through this and
we are going to bring forth whatGod has placed in our spirits
to bring forth.
So I believe was it 1 John 2and 16?
That's where it comes from 1John 2, verse 16.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Okay.

WALTER (03:15):
Yes, and this is specifically the King James
Version when it's referencing,because that's how I heard it.
And the King James Version saysthat for all that is in the
world, the lust of the flesh,the lust of the eye and the
pride of life is not of theFather but of the world.

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And the NLT Version says forthis world offers only a craving
for physical pleasure, acraving for everything we see
and pride in our achievementsand possessions.
They are not from the Father.
These are not from the Father,but they're from this world.

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And that's where we will begin.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
All right.

WALTER (04:01):
So, going to our notes that we brought together lust, I
think a lot of times whenpeople think of lust they become
focused on specifically likesexual desires, right?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Right.

WALTER (04:26):
I keep telling my wife, because these cameras we don't
have anyone manning them intheir automatic focus, so we
pray that they stay in focus.

SHANEA (04:38):
Yes, preferably they stay in focus.
Yeah, if not, you'll just seemy husband talking.

WALTER (04:43):
Or you'll see my wife talking Air focus, yeah, if not,
you'll just see my husbandtalking.
Or you'll see my wife talking.
So when we dig into, lust,sexual perversion comes to mind,
because that's all we talkabout Mm-hmm.
Lust is always associated withsexual perversion.

SHANEA (05:02):
Yeah.

WALTER (05:03):
Nothing else.

SHANEA (05:05):
But even the sexual perversion part is wrong when it
comes to lust.
When people think of lust,they're thinking like you're
fantasizing about someone.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Mm-hmm.

SHANEA (05:17):
That's just not the case .

WALTER (05:19):
Explain.

SHANEA (05:21):
Lusting after someone is simply just what is first, what
is lust?

WALTER (05:28):
So the definition of lust is an intense or
uncontrolled craving, typicallyfor sexual desires, but it can
also refer to any excessive orobsessive longing, for example
power, wealth or pleasure.
So there's three differentthings.
There's intense or unbridledsexual desire.
There's a strong desire orcraving.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And then there's enthusiasm or eagerness, so yeah
, it's really just.

WALTER (06:01):
It's a situation where it's so I like that.

SHANEA (06:07):
It's an intense, uncontrollable craving, right.
So your eyes just wandering,it's something that's
uncontrollable.

WALTER (06:14):
You don't know why your eyes wandered over there, but it
just kind of did that's trueyeah so when we think about that
, then it digs further into it's, more than just sexual right.
So we have that being less okay.

(06:39):
And when you think of it from abiblical perspective, uh, less
refers to sinful desires thatoppose the will of God,
especially those that come fromthe flesh, human nature, apart
from God.
It is often portrayed as adriving force behind immorality,
idolatry and spiritualcorruption.

(07:00):
Now, that's new.

SHANEA (07:03):
Where are you reading from your notes?
Spiritual corruption?
Now that's new Mm-hmm when youreading from your notes.

WALTER (07:12):
The last ones I sent you no Okay.
But continue.

SHANEA (07:16):
No, you could.
You could keep both of them out, if you want.

WALTER (07:18):
I do have them All right ?

SHANEA (07:19):
I was just wondering.

WALTER (07:21):
So, um good, I got off track.
Let's look at romans 118through 32.
Then let me bring it back.

SHANEA (07:32):
I'm on your nose now, I believe okay, no way, I mean we
could, you could keep goingbecause I was going yeah, keep
going.
I don't want to interrupt you,I was just wondering that's all
I was getting into it gettinginto it, babe so we touched on
lust?

WALTER (07:49):
I don't.
I guess we can touch onperversion.
And the reason we touched onperversion is because, when I
was taking the notes, what justcame to me is that uh, when lust
is unchecked is a perversionright yeah, but it when you
think of perversion.

(08:09):
Perversion is like it it's,it's essentially lust, unchecked
, right.
So perversion is just thedistortion of something from its
original purpose biblically.
Biblically, it's a moral andspiritual deviation from God's
order.
Yeah, is that what you see inyour notes.

SHANEA (08:31):
Yes, that's what I have.

WALTER (08:32):
Yeah, I was keeping the other notes because it was
digging more into my notes.

SHANEA (08:36):
Yeah.

WALTER (08:36):
So I want to read this Perversion refers to the
distortion or corruption ofsomething from its original or
intended person, purpose, use ormeaning.
Okay, the action of pervertingor the condition of being
perverted a diversion from thetrue original use or meaning.
A corruption, especially amoral or sexual deviation.

(09:00):
I like that better.

SHANEA (09:07):
Yeah so, but perversion is not just.
It's not just sexual.

WALTER (09:12):
No.

SHANEA (09:13):
Yeah, Everything is everything.
The enemy created is a perverseversion of what God created.

WALTER (09:21):
Yes, yeah.
And the thing is, when I thinkof per, of perversion right,
because it's not just sexual Ithink of an alternate doctrine
in comparison to the word of god, the gospel, how we've been

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called to live our lives asbelievers, as children of god.
So when I think of it, lust,essentially because this is
something where you have what?
uh, you have, um, an intensecraving for something right,
whether it be power, whatever itmay be right it can lead you to

(10:02):
the path of becoming perverted,because when you think of lust,
lust is almost like a doorway.
Perversion is like you in there.
Which is why I believe Jesussaid what he said when he said,
hey, if you think it in yourmind, you've already committed

(10:24):
sin.
He was trying to forewarn usbecause he was like it's
essentially when it goesunchecked, whatever that may be,
it's not just adultery, it'snot just sex, it's not just
those things, it's a desire forpower.
Well, I think the thing is, ifyou even have the thought, you

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have to check it because itdidn't come from God.
And what happens if youcontinue to have thoughts that
are unchecked?
It become what your worldview,which is essentially perversion.
Now it becomes perverted, right.
So when you think of it?
Right, we have that.

SHANEA (11:07):
Let's look at Romans 1 1 , verse 18 through 32, real
quick okie dokie unless you havesomething else you want to add
nah, I don't have anything andI'm struggling over here.
I'm sorry, so if you guys seeme on camera and I look like I'm
not interested, I'm just tired.

WALTER (11:25):
I'm just tired we're gonna push past and pray past it
though.
Yeah, because the enemy istrying to get us both yes, we
speak against the spirit ofslumber yeah and command it to
loose us right now, in the nameof jesus so, uh, romans 1 18 and
we're reading the New LivingTranslation version everyone, it

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states but God shows His angerfrom heaven against all sin for
wicked people who suppress thetruth by their wickedness.
They know the truth about Godbecause he has made it obvious
to them.
For ever since the world wascreated, people have seen the
earth and sky.
Through everything God made,they can clearly see his

(12:10):
invisible qualities, his eternalpower and divine nature.
So they have no excuse for notknowing God.
Yes, they knew God, but theywouldn't worship him as God or
even give him thanks, and theybegin to think up foolish ideas
of what God was like.
As a result, their minds becamedark and confused.
Claiming to be wise, theyinstead became other fools and

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instead of worshiping theglorious, ever-living God, they
worshiped idols made to looklike mere people and birds and
animals and reptiles.
So God abandoned them to dowhatever shameful things their
hearts desired.
As a result, they did vile anddegrading things with each other
bodies.
They traded the truth about Godfor a lie, so they worshiped

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and served the things Godcreated instead of the creator
himself, who is worthy ofeternal praise.
Amen.
That is why God abandoned themto their shameful desires.
Even the women turned againstthe natural way to have sex and
instead indulged in sex witheach other, and the men, instead
of having normal sexualrelations with women, burned

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with lust for each other.
Men did shameful things withother men and as a result of
their sin or this sin, theysuffered within themselves the
penalty they deserved.
Since they thought it foolishto acknowledge God, he abandoned
them to their foolish thinkingand let them do things that
should never be done.
Their lives became full ofevery kind of wickedness, sin,

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greed, envy of wickedness, sin,greed, envy, murder, quarreling,
deception, malicious behaviorand gossip.
They are backstabbers, hatersof God, insolent, proud and
boastful.
They invent new ways of sinningand they disobey their parents.
They refuse to understand,break their promises, are
heartless and have no mercy.

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They know God's justicerequired that those who do these
things.
The interesting thing here iswhen we read this right the
church.
Many times they focus just onthe sexual part of this.
But this isn't just talkingabout sex.

SHANEA (14:26):
Yeah.

WALTER (14:26):
This just is, and when I'm talking about the sexual
part of everyone, I'm referringto homosexual behavior.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah.

WALTER (14:36):
So the LGBTQ plus community.
But this is so much more deeperthan that Right, is so much
more deeper than that right.
This is talking about how theyliterally begin to create their
own doctrine and turn the wayfrom the ways of god.
It started there, right, and asit started there, it began to

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progress from that the thoughtsthat they were having, creating
their own view of what Godshould be beginning to worship
idols, beginning to worship allof these things, and it grew
even more to where they thoughtup even more wicked ways and,
because they became perverse, itwas never enough, so they had

(15:20):
to keep feeding that perversion.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah.

WALTER (15:23):
So now we dig into sexual things, because if you
understand things of the demonicright or things of the dark
side of the spirit, youunderstand that their currency
is what?
Blood and sex, that is, thecurrency of the spirit from the

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demonic side.

SHANEA (15:46):
It's sacrificial.

WALTER (15:47):
It's sacrificial.
It's sacrificial Sexually,regarding whatever it may be,
because your body is a sacrifice, exactly.

SHANEA (15:56):
To God.

WALTER (15:57):
That's why you know it's a holy temple.

SHANEA (15:58):
It's a defilement of your body.

WALTER (16:02):
It's the greatest defilement that can be done.

SHANEA (16:04):
Because your body is a temple and you're made in the
image of God.

WALTER (16:11):
So that's what stood out to me as I was reading that,
yes, the sexual stuff was there,but it talked about their lives
became full of every kind ofwickedness and it digs into
everything.
Their lives became full ofevery kind of wickedness and it
digs into everything.
It doesn't just talk aboutwomen being with women and men
being with men.
Yeah, it talks about sin beinggreed, wickedness, hate, envy,

(16:36):
murder, quarreling, deception,malicious behavior and gossip.

SHANEA (16:41):
Yeah, Gossip which people do a lot of, yeah, gossip
which people do a lot of.

WALTER (16:49):
Yeah, so what are your thoughts on that, babe?

SHANEA (16:56):
Can I be honest?

WALTER (16:57):
Yes, you tired.

SHANEA (17:00):
I'm tired.

WALTER (17:02):
We're going to have to press through and people will be
like, oh well, y'all should doit another day.
No, when you submit to God, youdo it when you're supposed to
do it.

SHANEA (17:12):
And we just talked about this in the last episode.

WALTER (17:14):
Yeah, no matter how you feel.
So we're going to pray that Godwill help my wife to do what
God has called us to do, but Iwill continue to go and my wife,
she's going to check in.

SHANEA (17:27):
I'm going to check in at some point.

WALTER (17:29):
So um I, so we're going to continue.
Hopefully you're in focus,because you're adjusting
everything right now I'm sorryI'm I'm fidgeting yeah okay

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so, father god, we thank you.
We speak against the spirit ofslumber.
We thank you, god, that you arein the mist.
We thank you for strengtheningus, father god, and we thank you
for allowing your spirit toflow through that you are in the
midst.
We thank you for strengtheningus, father God, and we thank you
for allowing your spirit toflow through us, that even in
the areas that we are weakenedand we're tired, god, we thank
you that you are faithful and wewill be able to do what you've

(18:12):
called us to do, and do it well.
In the name of Jesus, we pray,angels of the Lord, we yield to
you being here and we thank youthat you are here on assignment,
by way of God, by way of theFather, and we thank you for
protecting this podcast andkeeping this podcast.
In Jesus' name, we pray, amen.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Amen.

WALTER (18:32):
So we talked about this right.
Unchecked lust leads tospiritual perversion.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Right.

WALTER (18:39):
And yeah, that was good, because when I was, what was
coming to me was the vine.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah.

WALTER (18:46):
And let me go to my notes, because I took some notes
on the vine, and so where isthis?
I'm looking for this right nowbecause it was interesting.
That was what yeah.
So it's like having.
What was coming to me is thatit was like having an affected
part of a vine right.

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Or dead part of the vine that isstill attached, and so I was
doing some research on it to see.
Okay, so what happens if anaffected part of the vine is not
removed?
What happens if an affectedpart of the vine is not removed?
What takes place from a naturalperspective?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
The diseased branch can spread infection.

WALTER (19:36):
Drain vital nutrients stunt the growth of the vine and
attract pests, ultimatelyharming the entire plant.
And then, from a spiritualperspective, it's unfruitful or
sinful areas left unaddressed.
So, from a spiritualperspective, if unfruitful or
sinful areas are leftunaddressed, it can hinder
growth, corrupt others and blockthe flow of God's life and

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purpose, making pruningessential for health and
fruitfulness.
So, ultimately, when you diginto this, you become
disconnected from the tree.
You have to become disconnectedfrom the tree because, if not,
you're going to literally spreadand you're going to destroy

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everything that you're connectedto and attached to or sin in
your life right.
You let it in in a particulararea, it will spread into all of
those other areas and begin toaffect and impact all of that.

SHANEA (20:28):
Right.
So if you don't treat it,you're going to be cut off.

WALTER (20:30):
Yes.

SHANEA (20:32):
And what came to me was the scripture, where we are
supposed to be in the vinebecause Christ is divine.
And so it's John 15, onethrough five, and this is ESV
version and it says I am thetrue vine and my father is the
vine dresser.
Every branch in me that doesnot bear fruit he takes away,

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and every branch that does bearfruit he prunes that it may bear
more fruit.
Already you are clean becauseof the word that I have spoken
to you.
Abide in me and I in you, asthe branch cannot bear fruit by
itself unless it abides in thevine.

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Neither can you supposed to bein Christ and he's divine.
If we let things go unchecked,we get cut off.

WALTER (21:49):
Yeah.

SHANEA (21:50):
We get cut off from him.
It's just not a good place tobe.

WALTER (21:58):
The unfortunate thing is , many are cut off and don't
even realize it, because you canbecome so it's so, it's so
interesting and I don't want togo left.
But even when you think ofchurch and all of those things,

(22:19):
many times we can get caught upin the emotions of things and so
you feel like you'reexperiencing God because it's
feeding your soul.

SHANEA (22:28):
Your flesh.

WALTER (22:29):
Your flesh, you feel something.
You feel something.
So it's like God is here andit's like no, you can't go based
off of what you feel to justifythat being the spirit of God.
It's a feeling.
You can still be reading yourBible, you still can be praying.
You still can be cut off fromGod.

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The Pharisees were praying andthey were reading their word,
yet they were still cut off fromGod, to the point to where they
didn't even recognize theSavior when he was sitting there
looking at them and statingthat the very scriptures that
you were reading speaks of me.
Moses wrote about me.
The entire Bible, essentially,is what Christ was saying to

(23:15):
them it speaks of me.

SHANEA (23:19):
Yeah Well, I think the other problem too is that the
unpruned sin spreads andcorrupts the whole tree or the
whole vine, right, and so peopledon't unprune the sin, no, they
keep sinning yeah which keepsinfecting the vine and they've

(23:39):
gotta do.

WALTER (23:40):
Have we ever, have we ever done an episode on grace?

SHANEA (23:44):
I think we talked about it a little bit, I think in that
favor and influence.

WALTER (23:50):
I believe we talked, but we didn't talk about grace like
on his own no because I thinkthe other issue is that people
misconstrue grace right theymisconstrue grace.
Right, they misconstrue grace.
They think grace is somethingthat it's not.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah.

WALTER (24:05):
So that's the other thing.
Yet, with that being the case,I think it's important that we
understand that grace isn'tthere to put us in the situation
to say that it's okay to keepsinning yeah, I don't know what

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scripture that is, but it's allthroughout, like I think, paul
touches on this particularscripture that literally says
that uh, it touches on well, Ibelieve what paul probably spoke
on it in Romans.
Let me see, and you cancontinue, but I'll look for that
scripture.

SHANEA (24:46):
Okay, well, just a reflection on this particular
part is is there a part of yourlife that needs to be pruned so
the spirit can fully flow?
Is there any parts in your lifethat you need to be pruned so
the spirit can fully flow?
Is there any parts in your lifethat you need to be cut off
from that you need to cut offand prune so that you don't

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become an infection in God'svine.
Because, he will cut you off.

WALTER (25:20):
The pruning process is not easy, though.

SHANEA (25:23):
No.

WALTER (25:23):
It's not easy.

SHANEA (25:24):
Because you have to let go of a lot of things that you
don't even know is affectingyour relationship with God.

WALTER (25:33):
Once again.
But that comes along to dyingitself.
Right, that comes along.
That digs back into the factthat we have to literally be
dead men walking, dead men andwomen walking, but actually that
is Romans 6 in general.

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Would be what we're talkingabout, as far as grace.

SHANEA (25:57):
Okay.

WALTER (25:58):
And so I read a little bit of it about as far as grace,
okay.
And so I read a little bit ofit verse versa.
Verse one says well then, and?
And everyone, if you want todig into this, read romans 5 and
6, because romans 6 is acontinuation of chapter 5.
And so, uh, well then, should wekeep on sinning so that god can
show us more and more of hiswonderful grace?
Of course not, since we have tosin, how can we continue to

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live in it?
Or have you forgotten that whenwe were joined with Christ
Jesus in baptism, we joined himin his death, for we died and
were buried with Christ bybaptism, and just as Christ was
raised from the dead by theglorious power of the Father,
now we also may live new lives,since we have been united with

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him in his death.
We will also be raised to life,as he was.
So this goes on, and it talksabout verse 12 or verse 6.
We know that our old sin forselves were crucified with
Christ so that sin might loseits power In our lives.

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We are no longer under thecontrol of sin.
You are now under the power ofgrace has given you the power to
overcome sin Right.
So, when we think of grace,grace is not there for you to
continue to sin Matter of fact,it's contrary.
Grace is there and you tocontinue to sin?
Matter of fact.
It's contrary.
Grace is there and we talkedabout this before.
Grace is there to empower us toturn away from sin.

SHANEA (27:26):
Right.

WALTER (27:27):
But continue, babe.

SHANEA (27:31):
Oh no, I was done.

WALTER (27:32):
Okay, so, yeah, so that's the scripture everyone
Read if you have time, if youwant to read Romans 5 or Romans
6.
I love all of Romans.
I think it's an amazing bookRomans, 1, corinthians, 2
Corinthians, galatians,Ephesians, all that good stuff.
There's some great stuff inthere.
There's really, really greatstuff Philippians, Colossians,

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all of that stuff.
But we're going to keep going.
So we are, we'll move tosegment two the original
deception, eve and the lust ofthe eyes.
So Genesis three and six.
Babe, do you want to read that?

SHANEA (28:16):
Or is this the entire scripture here?
I don't know if that's theentire scripture here, but
essentially I guess I can pullit off.

WALTER (28:21):
Okay.

SHANEA (28:23):
I can pull it off.

WALTER (28:28):
Everyone.
When my wife gets tired, whathappens, babe?
What you get silly I get silly?

SHANEA (28:39):
Yeah, okay, all right.
What you get silly, I guesssilly, yeah, okay, all right.
So genesis 3, 6 the woman wasconvinced.
She saw that the tree wasbeautiful and its fruit looked
delicious and she wanted thewisdom it could it would give
her.
So she took from it took, soshe took some of the fruit and

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ate it.
Then she gave some to herhusband who was with her, and he
ate it too.

WALTER (29:07):
Okay, what version was that?

SHANEA (29:10):
That was the NLT version .

WALTER (29:12):
Okay, okay.

SHANEA (29:14):
And so I don't know what version this is that I have on
here, but it says she saw thatthe tree was good for food,
pleasing to the eye, indesirablefor gaining wisdom.

WALTER (29:26):
Could be NIV or New King James Version.

SHANEA (29:28):
New King.

WALTER (29:29):
James Version yeah.

SHANEA (29:31):
Yeah.
So lust was introduced right inthe beginning because she saw
something that was good.
It was pleasing to her eye.
We're talking about lust of theeye.
Lust is found through your eyegates and your eye gates lead to
what your soul, and so she sawthat it was pleasing to her eye

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and desirable for gaining wisdomwhich digs into power and
perversion.
And perversion.

WALTER (30:00):
Yeah, the lust that the enemy.
This is good, because the lustof the eyes went unchecked in
Eve and it led to her eatingfrom the tree, which, in return,
Right, because it's like, oh,this looks good to me.

SHANEA (30:18):
You've been in this garden for I don't know how long
.
Have you at any other tree said, oh my gosh, this looks so good
, I just have to have that fruit?
She didn't check it.
Where did that even come from?
That was a thought you neverthought before.
It was a thought you've neverthought before.

WALTER (30:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it didn't say it any other time
that it was pleasing to her eyeas soon as satan came in.

SHANEA (30:53):
That thought was implanted based on um
misconstruing the words of God,absolutely, because I think even
in Genesis God said it waspleasing to his eye, right.
Don't think so.
It says somewhere elsesomething we touched on this.

WALTER (31:17):
Did God say that Somewhere?

SHANEA (31:18):
else.
He said something aboutpleasing not the tree of uh good
and evil no, no no, no, okay Ithink it was a, I think it was
like in relation to his creationokay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay
continue um, which means is um,we can see, but it's just, and

(31:39):
we can see things that are good,but the enemy makes us want it
for a purpose, for a reason,Like I got to have it because of
this, you know.
I want it because it's selfgratifying.

WALTER (31:56):
Yeah.

SHANEA (31:57):
Right and so.

WALTER (31:59):
Well, he's always tried to feed.
He's always focused on feedingthe flesh.
Yeah, right, and so Well, he'salways tried to feed.
He's always focused on feedingthe flesh.

SHANEA (32:03):
Yeah, and so this comes in, and that when you have a
thought that isn't that's a newthought or a recurring thought
about a thing or a person, youhave to.
This is where the Bible says totest the spirit.

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And Eve didn't test the spiritbehind the offer.
She went off exactly whatlooked right to her, what looked
good to her.
She didn't consult with God,the creator, because she had

(32:46):
lacked knowledge in an areawhere God told Adam that they
shouldn't be eating from thistree.
And when Satan came to her, shewasn't very clear about what
God said about the tree.
And when Satan came to her shewasn't very clear about what God
said about the tree.
She was like surely I won't dieif I eat this, so this looks

(33:09):
good and I'm just going to goahead and eat it instead of hey
God, should I eat this fruit?
Because I don't really know ifI should.
I'm not quite sure exactlyabout what you said.
She didn't test the spiritbecause it didn't lead her back

(33:33):
to God.
It led her toself-gratification.
It led her to herself pleasingherself.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, and we just talked herself pleasing herself.

SHANEA (33:42):
Yeah, and we just talked about this in the last episode
about testing spirits.

WALTER (33:49):
And I think, when we, when we gain an understanding
that from the beginning, satanhas always appealed to our flesh
, the lust of our flesh, thelust of our eyes and the lust of
our eyes and the pride of lifehe did in Eve.
Now we understand the strategyof the enemy.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah.

WALTER (34:08):
We understand the strategy and that's 1 John, 2,
16.
We wrote, read and it digs backinto Genesis 3.
And we saw that example withLuke 4, 5 through 8,
specifically right, and thatcame to me as I was taking down
notes the temptation of Jesus.
One of the things that he didwith Jesus.

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Right, he went and tried totempt Jesus in that particular
way.
In that particular way it saysthat.
Verse five says then the deviltook him up and revealed to him
all the kingdoms of the world.
In a moment of time I will giveyou the glory of these kingdoms

(34:52):
and authority over them.
The devil said because they aremine to give to anyone I please
, I will give it all to you ifyou will worship me.
Jesus replied.
The scripture says you mustworship the Lord, your God, and
serve only him.
So this showcases that theenemy tactics has never changed.

SHANEA (35:16):
No.

WALTER (35:17):
That ties right back to Genesis what he did with Adam
and Eve.

SHANEA (35:21):
Yeah.

WALTER (35:22):
One of the things that he wanted to do was, first and
foremost, caused him to turnagainst God.

SHANEA (35:26):
Yeah, which he did.

WALTER (35:28):
He did, he did, he wanted them, and then he also
wanted the power, because it waspower that God had given to
them to have dominion and ruleover the earth.
Oh absolutely and they gavethat away to the enemy.

SHANEA (35:41):
Yes, because they started listening to him.

WALTER (35:44):
So the question becomes what are we giving away to the
enemy by turning away from God?
What power within our ownpersonal lives are we freely
submitting to the enemy?

SHANEA (36:01):
Yeah, just because it looks good, exactly.
So you mean, like yourrelationships it looks good.
Success that looks good,ambition, that looks good.

WALTER (36:13):
So we got to understand.
The enemy tactics never change.
There's always an offering ofpower, glory and control of some
sort.
He never offers what God wants,he only feeds, or he only offer
what feeds the soul and strokesthe ego Right.
Yeah, and more importantly, thedifference when you're dealing

(36:37):
with the enemy versus dealingwith God is the enemy always
promises you glory Right,whereas when God is in the
equation, the glory is alwaysgiven to the Father.
So that's the key difference,and hopefully they don't hit the
train.

SHANEA (36:55):
I think that's a helicopter.

WALTER (36:57):
That's a helicopter.

SHANEA (36:58):
Yeah.

WALTER (36:59):
Yeah, of course it is at 1 o'clock in the morning.
So, and it's loud, let's allget out.

SHANEA (37:07):
Well, hopefully we can just talk over it and then no
one will notice that there's ahelicopter flying over.

WALTER (37:13):
So, moving on because we got about 30 more minutes and
going because we got about 30more minutes, we, I see, and I
put this in here in two ways tosee spirit versus soul right.
Matthews 6, 22, 6 verse 22through verse 23.

(37:36):
Do you want to read that for me?

SHANEA (37:39):
The eye is the lamp of the body.
If your eyes are healthy, yourwhole body is full of light.

WALTER (37:47):
That's not the entire thing, though.

SHANEA (37:49):
Oh, you want me to read the whole thing?

WALTER (37:50):
Yes, I'm sorry, you know we.
I just yeah, I want people toget everything.

SHANEA (37:55):
Okay, you want them to get all the things.

WALTER (37:58):
Matthew, chapter 6.

SHANEA (38:02):
Matthew 6.

WALTER (38:03):
Matthew six Verse 22 and 23.
Yeah, nlt, all right.

SHANEA (38:09):
Your eye is like a lamp that provides light for your
body.
When your eye is healthy, yourwhole body is filled with light.
But when your eye is unhealthy,your whole body is filled with
darkness.
And if the light you think youhave is actually darkness, how
deep that darkness is.

WALTER (38:30):
The unfortunate thing is , a lot of times we read
scriptures and we don'tunderstand what we're reading.
I read the scripture so manytimes, you know, because I grew
up in a church, so I read theBible back front to back, back
to front, multiple times.
It wasn't until after myconversion with God that I truly
understood what this meant andthat's what God was dealing with
me on, excuse me.

(38:53):
And so when I was reading thisand when this came to mind, we
know our eyes.
It's not talking like.
We think of it, like, oh okay,your eyes, but it goes deeper,
right, your eyes is what he wasgiving to me.
Is that there are two differentparts to this, right?

(39:16):
We have the spiritual part, wehave the spiritual part, we have
the natural part, but whathappens in many cases is that
the enemy will try to get usinto a space of feeding our
flesh, our soul, to where oursoul takes the lead, versus
feeding the spirit of God.
So the light and darkness is,you know, one that is driven by

(39:40):
soulish, or on a soulish levelwhich you still can access, the
things of the spirit, but from adarker perspective, versus
being led by the spirit of Godwhich brings forth the true
light.
Right, right.
And so it's essentially sayingwe must view life through our
union with the spirit of God.
Right, this is 1 Corinthians 6and 17.
This is Roman 8.
It's essentially saying we mustview life through our union
with the Spirit of God.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Right.

WALTER (40:01):
This is 1 Corinthians 6 and 17.
This is Romans 8, 15 through 16.
All this talks about us beingjoined with the Father.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Right.

WALTER (40:11):
And in many cases, unfortunately, what happens is
we place ourselves in a positionwhere we are viewing things
from our soul, and when doing so, we are viewing things from our
soul, and when doing so, weopen ourselves up to demonic
influence, and I don't think weunderstand how deep that goes.

(40:33):
And then you can get to a pointand this is what the scripture
was talking about to where youmay think what you're doing is
right.

SHANEA (40:40):
Right.
And it looks good.

WALTER (40:42):
Here's the thing.

SHANEA (40:43):
It feels good.

WALTER (40:47):
What we have to understand.
Is this right here?
I don't.
Yes, this is the world right.
Yes, this is those that arenonbelievers or that are not
quote unquote followers ofChrist.
Yet I think that the danger isthose who think they are
following Christ is what thisactually touches on.
More right, Because let's put atwist on this you already think

(41:12):
you have light.
So if you think you have light,you are thinking that you're
following along the ways thatGod intended for you to follow.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yeah, yeah, you are thinking that you're following
along the ways that God intendedfor you to follow.

SHANEA (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, and it's crazy because I remember I had a
revelation for this, because Igot a note here and this was in
January, back in January of lastyear.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
And what I had got was what I watch is no different
than what I eat.

SHANEA (41:43):
Men's eyes are a gateway to their soul.
Is your soul healthy?
What have you been feeding it?
If what I watch?
Is light, for my body is mybody filled with light or
darkness.
And just because you can see inthe dark doesn't make you a
light, it just means your eyeshave adjusted to darkness.

WALTER (42:08):
That sucks, that sucks.

SHANEA (42:15):
Isn't that crazy.

WALTER (42:17):
That's what the scripture is saying.

SHANEA (42:19):
Yes.

WALTER (42:20):
That's exactly what the scripture is saying.
Yes, that's exactly what thescripture is saying we have to
be careful, and that's a goodplace to be.
Are your eyes led by the spiritof your soul and understanding
that your eyes is deeper thanwhat you think it does more?

(42:42):
It can do more damage or good.

SHANEA (42:45):
Yeah, and people don't.
They don't really realize itbecause they're like, because
you can't see in the spirit whatis really going on and taking
place behind the scenes, on whatyou're actually taking in, what
you're fueling your lamp with.
What kind of oil are youfeeding your lamp with?

WALTER (43:06):
is it?
Holy oil I would even say thisuh, for those and this is our,
this is for believers I wouldsay this because of how we move,
and it's only by way of theHoly Spirit guiding us, there

(43:28):
are certain things that we can'twatch because and we talked
about this before- it wouldliterally grieve the Spirit of
God within us, and the Scripturespeaks of that.
So if you're watching things anddoing things and listening to
things, and you, you consideryourself a believer and the
spirit of God is not beinggrieved in you.

(43:48):
That is a big red flag.

SHANEA (43:51):
Yeah, you think you can just watch whatever you want to
watch, because you you can pleadthe blood of Jesus and you can
say Jesus Christ.

WALTER (44:00):
No.

SHANEA (44:01):
Jesus Christ is a name no, and you can say Jesus Christ
, no Jesus.

WALTER (44:02):
Christ's name?
No, and you can claim.

SHANEA (44:04):
Jesus Christ.
No, you can't go out and justwatch sinners or deliverance
movies.

WALTER (44:10):
Why do you call that movie?

SHANEA (44:11):
out?
I don't know, because believersare out there watching it, okay
, and thinking that they canwatch it.
But, like I said, your eyesjust get adjusted to darkness.

WALTER (44:24):
It becomes a struggle everyone, because once again I
think I spoke into.

SHANEA (44:28):
I think I said that because it's what came into my
head.

WALTER (44:31):
I think I discussed this before.
I'm a history major, and one ofthe first books my mother
purchased me to read was a blackhistory book, and so I just
know all about our history.
Yet I am a believer first andthen I am a black man, and so I

(44:53):
think with sinners and movieslike that, it can be challenging
, especially for believers.
Yeah, it can be challenging,especially for believers,
because there is some truth inthem trying to pay homage to our
heritage and our history.
And you want that because it'slike you know, there is voodoo

(45:20):
and hoodoo and all of thesedifferent things that they
practice and partook in that wasnot of God.
And you can open yourself up tothat so you can respect the
history.
We have nothing against that.
But you want to be mindful ofwhat you are exposing yourself
to, because some of that historyis full of darkness, just like

(45:41):
some of that history is full oflight.

SHANEA (45:43):
Right, and I mean there's darkness, you know, here
in the Bible.
We see, you know, with all thepagan rituals, but there is a
difference.
But when you're watchingsomething a movie where they are
consulting with people whoactually practice these rituals,
they become dangerous.

WALTER (46:00):
It's dangerous.
And then they're praying overit everyone.

SHANEA (46:03):
No, no, no they're praying over it.

WALTER (46:05):
So as you watch that in your home, as you go to the
movies and watch that, you areopening yourself up to things
that you can't see with yournatural eyes.

SHANEA (46:14):
Right but look.

WALTER (46:16):
But to each his own.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I'm own.
I wouldn't recommend it.
I'm sorry, I would notrecommend, I wouldn't watch it,
I wouldn't recommend it and I'vealways seen this stuff.
But we like as far as the.
You know, I told you I've beenseeing demons since I was a kid,

(46:37):
so this stuff is real.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's not fake.

WALTER (46:40):
We've watched the quote unquote Chucky movies so this
stuff is real.
It's not fake.
We've watched the quote unquoteChucky movies and had stuff
come out.

SHANEA (46:45):
Well, I mean people.
They make it seem like it's notreally that big of a deal
because all kids see monsters.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Okay, all right?

WALTER (46:56):
Well, we ain't gonna get sidetracked.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
No.

WALTER (46:59):
So moving on, this is one thing that we will leave you
with.
What starts as just anattraction can end in bondage
when it isn't examined in thelight of God's truth Right.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Where you at, babe.

WALTER (47:17):
We're still two ways to see spirit versus soul.

SHANEA (47:19):
Oh, okay.

WALTER (47:20):
Yeah, so we're moving on because we got a few more
segments and we got about 15minutes.

SHANEA (47:28):
Okay, gotcha.

WALTER (47:29):
So I'm looking at the notes.
Everyone, let's dig into thisbecause let's gain's gain an
understanding, I think.
Idolatry yeah we think idolatryis just um you building a gold

(47:50):
staff or gold, calf or some typeof statue to some god or no,
that's not it so, uh, judge just217.
Uh, the bible lets us know inthis.
I believe this is just a um,you want to read judges 217 or
you want to just do the summaryof it?

SHANEA (48:12):
um, if you could read it , I was trying to pull up um
what I had got uh, let's see,because I think that's important
, that we touch on idolatryJudges 2, verse 17,.

WALTER (48:25):
and this is the NLT version.
It says yet Israel did notlisten to the judges, but
prostituted themselves byworshiping other gods.
How quickly they turned awayfrom the path of their ancestors
, who had walked in obedience tothe Lord's commands.

(48:45):
And that's Judges 2, verse 17.
That's the New LivingTranslation version.
So you still looking?

SHANEA (48:59):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I got it Okay, I think.
Judges 2, 17,.
God said he would give Israelover to the gods they lusted
after.
Today, the idols just lookdifferent.
They just look different.
So, and what had came to me waswhat gods back then were they

(49:30):
worshiping?
What gods?
were they worshiping back then,that we are still worshiping in
today's modern times, but wejust have different words for
what those gods represented,right.
And so you have Baal, right,who they worshiped, but they he

(49:58):
represented, or it representsfertility, power, bowel
represents power.
You want some type of control,and so idolatry.
This type of idolatry is tiedto control, prosperity and
sensual pleasures.
And then you have Asherteth,which is a goddess of love,

(50:23):
fertility, sex and war, and soworship involved with this
particular false god isritualistic, sex, prostitution
and pagan festivals.
So the idolatry here would beseduction, lust, feminine
dominance in pagan worship,right.

(50:48):
So ritualistic set it's, it'severywhere sex, prostitution,
pagan festivals meaning parties,right parties right.
Mm-hmm, and you guys cancontinue to read about all the
different gods in the Bibles.
You're like six of themparticularly.

WALTER (51:11):
Well, it goes back to the scripture that says my
people perish because of thelack of knowledge.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Yeah, so you have to understand Right.

WALTER (51:18):
You think that we don't understand it like your car can
be an idol.
Yes, Sex can be an idol.

SHANEA (51:25):
Your relationship can be an idol yes, because it's
materialistic and the God of Godof Sidon or Phoenicia.
It's a deity that representscommerce, sea power and sensual
worship.
So, materialism, luxury,corruption, trading, influence
you have a lot of influencersout here.

(51:46):
You have a lot of peoplesporting their cars and
everything that they have.
You got a lot of people who areinto luxury, buying luxury items
and showing them off.
Those are gods, like yourworship.
You spend more time in thoseareas than you do with God and
you wouldn't give those up.

(52:07):
Would you give any of thesethings up for God?
Would you give up sex for God?
Would you give up that Louisbag for God?
Would you give up that?
I like Corvette, so would yougive up that.
Lambo, would you give up theCorvette?
Would you give up the Corvette?
Would you give up?

WALTER (52:21):
Why you say Lambo before you say Corvette?

SHANEA (52:23):
Because I like those too .
Okay, and I know you like those.

WALTER (52:29):
I do like the Lamborghinis.
But what I'm saying is wouldyou give up all of that for God,
do you?

SHANEA (52:39):
understand, those things start to become idols.
Would you give up that person?
Would you give up your family?

WALTER (52:44):
Would you give up your career, all of those different
things.
And the thing that we have tounderstand is just because we
don't actually see it, I don'tthink we understand how great of
a role it plays in everythingthat's surrounding us, whether
it be government as far aspolitics, whether it be

(53:07):
Hollywood, movies, entertainment, whether it be the music
industry, even the church.
The dangerous thing that wedon't even understand, because
in those things you can kind ofthink like we see it right.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
We see it with the cartoons People lost half the
power.

WALTER (53:23):
Yet the church?
We don't even understand that.
The church, many of the leadersin the church, because they
want power, they are now tappedinto and for some time, demonic
sources.

SHANEA (53:37):
You're doing whatever you can get To get that power,
to get that power or you'redoing whatever you can get, to
get that power.
Or you're doing whatever youcould get to get any of those
things.

WALTER (53:44):
Because when you're being led by God, you and let
this be a red flag to you all,Okay, and I'm just speaking in
general Any man that makes youthink that they can just
prophesy or heal just at thedrop of a dime.
That's not true.

(54:05):
You can only do as God allowsyou to do.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Right.

WALTER (54:11):
Because it's not by our own power, it's not by our own
might, it is by the power of God.
That's why the Bible lets usknow and you can read this, and
we have to read our Bible andask the Holy Spirit to help us.
As we read Jesus sent them outwhat?
In two by two, and he sent themto places.
The scripture says that he sentthem to places that he was

(54:31):
already planning on going.

SHANEA (54:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Right, right.

WALTER (54:35):
And they came back even after as they were being sent
out.
They and they came back evenafter as they were being sent
out.
They came back in a maze Likeyo, we casting out demons, we
doing this, we doing all this,we doing it, and Jesus is like
what you expect.
I sent you.
So if I sent you, you carry mymark.
It's almost like and you know,we like his, like, I like you

(54:55):
know history.
I say this all the time, butit's almost like when you have
the king's seal of approval,yeah, nobody touching you yeah
because you got the authority,seal of approval, and that is
authority.
It's not your authority, no,it's the king is delegated.
Yes, but it's because of theking, yes, and so it's the same
thing he told him don't boast.

SHANEA (55:16):
Boast because your names are written in heaven not
because you can cast out demons.

WALTER (55:21):
So the problem isn't just sexual desire, it's any
obsessive longing for somethingoutside of God's will, and when
desire leads, it becomes yourGod.
That includes fame,relationship control or even
your type.

SHANEA (55:39):
Yeah.
So like these guys don't justrepresent statues, right?
They're tied to demonicstrongholds and world views.
The world systems, literallyour whole world system is built
around these, these deities,these false gods, right, that
appeal to everyone in prosperityand in power and pleasure and

(56:02):
safety, all outside of God'swill.
It appeals to you, all outsideof God's will.
You're compromised Spiritually,you're spiritually compromised
and it will place you in a placeof bondage if it doesn't go on,

(56:23):
if it doesn't go checked sowhat's some of the questions
that you can ask yourself?
some of the questions that youcan ask yourself to see whether
or not you are lusting aftersomething or that you are

(56:44):
placing something before God andit's becoming an idol Like am I
pursuing someone more than I'mpursuing God?
Am I pursuing marriage morethan I'm pursuing God?
Am I a workaholic out oflusting for wealth, and is it
costing me my intimacy with God?
Am I working, working, working,which is what world system they

(57:09):
want us to work, like dogsbarely could get by.
Am I prioritizing myfriendships or my family or the
gym or social media more thanI'm spending time with the Lord?

WALTER (57:27):
Yeah.

SHANEA (57:28):
All those things you got to cut out, you got to prune?
Yeah, you have to they, thesethings might not be sinful,
right, but they become sin whenyou replace it with, when you
replace it instead of god yeah,when you replace that, when you
replace god with that, it canbecome sin and it can lead you

(57:49):
to partaking in sinful actsright that's the thing we're not
saying, because you be onsocial media, you're gonna go to
hell, to hell.

WALTER (57:56):
No we're saying that it's doorways.
It opened up doorways.

SHANEA (58:00):
No, but if you'd rather be on social media than be with
God, then yes, it's sent.

WALTER (58:04):
It becomes an idol.

SHANEA (58:05):
It's an idol.

WALTER (58:06):
It becomes an idol.

SHANEA (58:08):
Yes.

WALTER (58:08):
It becomes an idol.
Yes, let's go ahead and say Imean your children can become an
idol.
Yes, your parents can become anidol.

SHANEA (58:16):
Yes.

WALTER (58:18):
Husbands, your wives can become an idol.
Wives, your husband, can becomean idol.

SHANEA (58:23):
Anything that replaces God is an idol.

WALTER (58:31):
Mm-hmm, so going from here, babe, where do you think
we go next?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
We got about I would say, at the most 10 minutes
would say at the most 10 minutes.

SHANEA (58:49):
I think you put the covenant with the eyes in it
with Job, right?
Yeah, I think I did.
I mean, I did, I put that inthere.
The rich, young ruler I guesswe don't really have to talk
about it, but it's still.
Can you, looking at your heart,posture, right?
What will you give up to be afollower of Christ?

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What will you give up to storetreasures in heaven versus
treasures here on earth?
You know it's a a cost, it'svery costly, right, um?

WALTER (59:28):
and I think you could read on that joke because I like
that joke.
3 3111 I made a covenant withmy eyes not to look with lust I
don't even remember why thatcame to me.

SHANEA (59:39):
I don't put it in here.
I stood out.
Yeah, I don't remember why thatcame to me, but let me go ahead
and read it then, job 31.
One.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Mm-hmm.

SHANEA (59:59):
I made a covenant with my eyes not to look with lust at
a young woman.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Mm-hmm.

SHANEA (01:00:08):
For what has God above chosen for us?
What is our inheritance fromthe Almighty on high?

WALTER (01:00:15):
Mm-hmm, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Mm-hmm, that's good.

WALTER (01:00:21):
That's good you got to hear.
Job understood that uncheckedlooking feeds the heart.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

WALTER (01:00:29):
And that the heart eventually acts.
So modern example is likeliking a certain type of car If
you keep seeing it, thinkingabout it, fantasizing, you
eventually act on it.
We also see this with yoursocial media feed.
You look at something, maybeone or two times, and now it's
all over your feed and unlessyou start looking at something

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else, it's just going to remainand then it just gets worse and
worse with the feed, if it's notchecked.
If it's not checked, if it's notchecked and we can talk
specifically we can discuss nowwe can get into sex and those
who are married who commitadultery and like unfaithfulness

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, Men and women, becauseunfortunately now with social
media you have both men andwomen.
Because unfortunately now withsocial media you have both men
and women doing thirst trapsyeah women, y'all have to.
You all have to check your feed, just as much as we, as men,
need to yeah because while youhave all of these different
women, that's gunning for theintention of men.

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Now you can have the same besaid with women and then on the
opposite, women, you have tocheck your feed with women.
That's also gunning for yourattention.
Men you have to check your feedfor men.

SHANEA (01:01:48):
That's also gunning for your attention, because
everything is overly sexualizedand it's not even that you your
attention, um, oh my gosh, how,how, how can I even say this?
It's just like repeatedexposure leads to like a
fixation.
Right, it forms a tie, like youmight not even be attracted to

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this, but you keep seeing it andeventually you're going to like
it.

WALTER (01:02:16):
Because you got to also be careful, because one of the
other things it does as well andthat kind of digs into that.
It desensitize you.
You become desensitized.

SHANEA (01:02:26):
Yes.
You so used to seeing something, you become desensitized.
Yeah, so you're used to seeingwomen with no clothes on.
You're used to seeing men withno clothes on.
That can be for men and forwomen.
You're used to seeing it.
That could be for men and forwomen.
You're used to seeing it.
And now you see it so oftenbecause you didn't check your
feed.

WALTER (01:02:40):
Or you keep hearing people say you need to pursue
this.
You need to pursue this.
You need to make as much moneyas you need.
You need to go after it.
You need to work, work, work,work, work.
You need to get to this level.
Da, da, da, da, da da.
Yeah, it literally andsomething wrong, because I'm not
making this amount.

SHANEA (01:02:57):
Right, or you're seeing people posting these cars,
posting these things.
Now you're lusting after itExactly.
Because you see it with youreye.
That's what you're feedingyourself, yeah, and that's what
you're telling your body thatyou need.
You need this, so I got to keeplooking at this.
I keep looking at this.

WALTER (01:03:15):
So I need it.
So I think how we can begin toend this off, and I love this
part.
We often say it's not that deep, because culture normalizes
compromise yes, absolutely, butif you but if you're led by
trends and tradition, you'refollowing influence you're
following influence.

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You're following influence andnot God.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Right.
And if you consistently agreewith certain thoughts, they
multiply.

SHANEA (01:03:47):
Right Now, you just don't.
Now you don't just noticepeople.
Right, you formed a preference.
It's like I was saying beforeyou continue to keep seeing
something.
Now I have a preference becauseI continually keep seeing it
because, other people keepshowing it to me.
So it must be majority rules,right, but these aren't led by

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God and I think about this.
So, like you know, I used to belike a quote unquote.
What's your typical black girlin?
In middle school, I used towear Skechers.
I won't come for you, I used tolike I didn't dress like
everybody else, but then I gotpicked on.

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I didn't get picked on, buteverybody else wore like Nikes
and they wore Air Forces andJordans and I just was like a
cool Skecher girl.
I hung out with my little youknow caucasian friends and they
didn't wear jordans and nikes.
I didn't even know nothingabout it.
And then I go to school and Isee all these kids with jordans

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and nikes and now I'm like, oh,I gotta get me some Jordans and
Nikes.
Where did that even come from?

WALTER (01:05:02):
I mean.

SHANEA (01:05:03):
My eyes it was influence .
I didn't have to do it, I justdid it because everybody else
was doing it.

WALTER (01:05:11):
Yeah, or I liked it because everybody else liked it.
I had great restraint just now.

SHANEA (01:05:17):
Why.

WALTER (01:05:18):
Because I had some comments I couldn't make.

SHANEA (01:05:21):
What you was going to say.
Nothing, because I'm still thatgirl.
Nothing.

WALTER (01:05:26):
We be going in on each other.
We be going in on each otherBecause we have this running
joke on whether she's a nerd ora geek, or whether I'm a nerd or
a geek or a dork yeah, geek.

SHANEA (01:05:40):
Or a dork.
Yeah, are you a dork.

WALTER (01:05:44):
I think I'm probably more so a geek.
I'm probably a nerd.
I think you're a dork.
I'm not.
Don't do that, see, y'all, see,let's stop, because they're
going to be like we're insultingeach other Right.
So we're going to stop Anyhow,we ain't going to invite, we
ain't going to put them into ourhome.
I don't know I think I might be30.

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I watched what's the name ofthe show that I told you about.
That was amazing.

SHANEA (01:06:11):
What show I watched?
All 12 episodes of what show?

WALTER (01:06:18):
With the geeks, the Sheldon, oh, um uh, it was all
psychedelic that 70s no not that70s, the other one, what other
one?
Never, never mind.

SHANEA (01:06:31):
This is a difference oh, the big bang theory the big
bang theory.

WALTER (01:06:34):
Yes, I binge watched that 12 seasons and enjoyed
everything and laughed at all ofthe jokes.
I laughed at all of the jokes Idid so I don't know what that
says about me, but continue.
And then I like history, andnow we geek out about the word
of God.

SHANEA (01:06:53):
Yeah, we do, we geek out heavily, we do, we do.
We're geeks for Jesus To endthis out.

WALTER (01:06:59):
We're geeks for Jesus.
To end this out every desirenot submitted to God becomes a
seed.
When watered, it bears fruit,either fleshly or spiritual.
If it didn't come from God, itcame from the enemy.
That's John 8, 44, Genesis 3for reading reference, and this

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goes back to what you said FirstJohn 4, 1, what Test every
spirit, not every opinion.
Yeah, so call to action.
We must have what God did notplan Matthew 15, 13.
Ask yourself does this thoughtglorify God or the flesh?

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Can I lay it down for God, ordoes it grip me too tightly?
Would I give it up for God ifhe asked me to?

SHANEA (01:07:52):
Yes, yes, and I have Ephesians 4, 21 through 24 here,
and I'll read it real quick toend this out, because I think
it's important on how we getpast this, since you have heard

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about jesus and have learned thetruth that comes from him,
throw off your old sinful natureand your former way of life,
which is corrupted by lust anddeception.
Instead, let the spirit renewyour thoughts and attitudes, put
on your new nature, created tobe like God, truly righteous and
holy Truly righteous and holy.

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So you have to throw off yourold sinful nature.
You have to throw awayeverything, because your eyes
were tainted with lust anddeception.

WALTER (01:09:06):
Yeah, and now your soul is tainted.

SHANEA (01:09:08):
Yes, and so you have to renew your mind.
So now, when we're talking toyou about things, you're like,
oh, that don't really make sense.
Oh, you're too deep.
Yeah, no, I'm not too deep.
You got to renew your mind,you're too deep?

WALTER (01:09:20):
Yeah, no, I'm not too deep, you got to renew your mind
.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
You're too carnal.

WALTER (01:09:23):
And you're immature.
Paul talked about it.

SHANEA (01:09:26):
In the spirit.

WALTER (01:09:27):
You're immature in the spirit, that's all it is.
No disrespect, it's just.
It really is what it is.
We were at that place at onepoint too, and there's still
areas in our lives that we cangrow in within the spirit.
Yeah, and there's still areasin our lives that we can grow in
within the spirit, yeah, whichis why we yield to those who are
wiser in those areas and wesubmit ourselves to them because
the goal is to be more like god.

SHANEA (01:09:48):
Right, and you have the.
The goal is to be more like god, and so purity starts with your
perception.
You have to view things the waythat god views things.
You have to view things the waythat God views things.
You have to see things the waythat Jesus sees things.
That's what would Jesus doLiterally renewing your mind.
And so it's about this, isabout rest, restoring the God in

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you.

WALTER (01:10:10):
Restoration yeah.

SHANEA (01:10:11):
Yeah, the spirit of God right, or the image of God.

WALTER (01:10:15):
Submitting to the spirit of God, of God.
Submitting to the Spirit of GodAt the most basic level or
basic way of explaining it.
We touched on this before inthe previous episode.
It's getting from that placewhere your soul led you and
moving to a place where you'reled by the Spirit of God that's

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intertwined with your spirit.
So now your actions aren't ledby your soul.
The spirit of God leads you,and now your soul goes through
that whole process of being madeover again.

SHANEA (01:10:51):
Yeah, make me over again .

WALTER (01:10:57):
So I guess this is a good place to close it yeah, I
think so, anything you want toadd or we can close out.

SHANEA (01:11:07):
I think I just wanted to have them ponder on these last
two questions I have.
Is whatever, whatever you placeabove him will eventually cost
you your peace.
So you should just look at yourlife and see if there's there's
been, any peace, any any of thedecisions that you made?

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Not, um, not compromised, not,uh, what's the word I'm looking
for?
Um, not that you adapted to thedecision that you made because
at first you didn't have peacewith it and you kind of adapted,
right.
So you have to look at everydecision that you've made in
your life and make sure that italigns with glorifying God and

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not yourself, right, and ask Godto show you anything that you
are unwilling to surrender tohim, because that's an idol in
your heart that you need to getrid of, and you have to be
willing to get rid of it,whatever it is.

WALTER (01:12:18):
Okay, okay, there you have it, folks.
That of it, whatever it is Okay.

SHANEA (01:12:23):
There you have it, folks .
That's it Well, we appreciateyou guys.

WALTER (01:12:26):
We do.

SHANEA (01:12:27):
We are so tired.

WALTER (01:12:28):
We are.

SHANEA (01:12:29):
We are ready to get in bed.

WALTER (01:12:31):
So we will let my wife close us out.
We yeah.

SHANEA (01:12:38):
We will see you guys next week like comment all that
please share your testimonies onhow this is blessing you.
We are able to post now kindait's not our channel, so please
don't get mad at us if we arenot uploading or reposting

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videos.

WALTER (01:13:02):
Yeah, and I'm praying.
You know I think this isepisode 24.
So we're four episodes awayfrom a possible three-month
hiatus is what was given to me,but we're praying to see if we
can do anything to kind of sharesome stuff with you all in the
meantime and in between time ofthat as we ramp up for season

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two.
But we're four episodes outfrom ending out season one and I
believe the way it was given tome is we're going to have 28
episodes per season.

SHANEA (01:13:34):
So yeah, Something like that.

WALTER (01:13:36):
Something like that, until we hear something
different.

SHANEA (01:13:38):
All right, Well, if you guys are still listening.
We thank you.

WALTER (01:13:41):
We do so to God.
Be the glory God be the glory.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
We will see you all next week.
Bye.

WALTER (01:13:47):
All right, bye-bye.