Season One Finale: Rest

What does it truly mean to rest in God? Not the physical rest that comes with sleep, but the spiritual posture that brings freedom from anxiety, worry, and the weight of trying to control everything in your life.

In this powerful season finale, we explore the concept of spiritual rest as Jesus described it in Matthew 11:28-30. When Christ invites us to "take my yoke upon you," He's offering a divine partnership where our burdens become lighter because we're no longer carrying them alone. The yoke, historically used to unite two animals pulling together, becomes a beautiful metaphor for how we move through life connected to our Savior.

We examine how many have mistaken our spiritual address, treating God's presence as a vacation spot rather than our permanent dwelling place. Psalm 91 reminds us that those who "live in the shelter of the Most High" find genuine rest, not those who merely visit occasionally. Mary, mother of Jesus, demonstrates perfect spiritual rest when she accepts God's seemingly impossible word without questioning how it could happen.

The challenge for modern believers is learning to surrender control, embracing childlike faith rather than analyzing everything through our limited understanding. True rest produces remarkable fruit: peace beyond comprehension, clarity of purpose, and freedom from striving. Yet this rest requires protection through daily spiritual vigilance and breaking agreements with doubt.

Whether you're carrying burdens of anxiety, struggling with hearing God's voice clearly, or battling to believe His promises for your life, this episode offers both theological insights and practical wisdom for finding genuine rest in Him.

Join us as we conclude Season One and prepare for a three-month hiatus before returning with fresh insights. Don't forget to revisit previous episodes during this break and stay connected for possible bonus content!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of Stepping in Faith,
where together, we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat relationship with God can
impact the relationship you havewith others.
I'm your host, walter.
I'm joined here alongside mylovely wife.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Shania.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
This is episode 28.
It is.
This is the final episodeeveryone of season one, which is
crazy.
It's crazy.
We are episode 28.

(00:40):
We're at episode 28.
So I wish I could put some uhstuff in right now.
I might try to, but if not, itis what it is what stuff?
Like some applause.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm too far away from the oh, because it was kind of
quiet yeah, it's like this wouldbe like hands clapping or
something like that oh, you'retoo far away to touch that, yeah
I might need to put that closernext season so I can have the
effects in there.
Possibly, or you could just addit I could.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It may be cheesy, but we'll see.
Anyhow, this is episode 28,.
The final episode for thisseason.
So we are here and we are aboutto do this.
So we start this off withprayer.
Babe, did you pray last time,or did I pray?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I think I prayed last time.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You sure?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I don't remember, but I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Maybe you did.
I'll pray, father God, as wecome before you this afternoon.
We thank you for your love,your mercy, your grace.
We thank you, father, that youare in control and that there is
none like you.
We pray that your perfect willwill be carried out like never
before.
We submit this podcast to you,father God, and we pray that you

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will have your way.
Let your glory be experienced,Let your presence be felt.
Allow lives to be impacted andchanged based on the different
things you had us touch on inthis past season.
God, holy Spirit, we yield andsubmit to you.
Take over our voice, take overour thoughts.
Allow us to flow in the Spirit.

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Lord Jesus, you are welcome.
We welcome you here.
We submit to you as our Lordand our Savior, as our high
priest.
We thank you even now that thispodcast is protected.
Angels of the Lord, weacknowledge you.
We thank you, father God, forsending forth your battle angels
to keep us as we explore thisfinal topic in the final episode

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of season one.
We thank you for bringing usthis far.
We thank you for keeping usweek by week.
It's in jesus name we pray amenamen.
Was that a long prayer?
It was it wasn't that long Iwas like oh, I can't hear you,
babe you can't hear me no, Ithink we.

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I don't think I changed thesettings.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Why you can't hear me .

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I can hear you now.
You was talking a little low.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was talking the same amount.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Were you.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Say something.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Something.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Say something else.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Something else?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, we'll deal with it in else, something else.
Okay, we'll deal with it inpost, all right, because I think
your volume is up higher thanmine.
Oh, okay.
So this is episode 28.
Babe, I just want to say I amproud of you for allowing the
Holy Spirit to keep you thisseason.

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I know that there were timesthat we both were struggling,
yet you have continued to yieldand submit to the Spirit of God,
and I know it's only by thegrace of God that you have come
thus far, that we have come thusfar.
Yes, you have come thus far,that we have come thus far.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, we have come thus far.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
We have dealt with challenges and struggles, but
God has kept us.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
What challenges and struggles you talking about?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
We can't speak to them about the stuff that people
have been trying to come at uswith.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Like all of the stuff that was going on week by week.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh, you're talking about outside of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yes, oh, Not in but outside the podcast.
Oh.
As the enemy been battling usand we've been going through
warfare nonstop.
But God has kept us and we haveremained faithful.
It is only by the grace of Godthat we have remained faithful.
It's only by his grace andmercy.
So to God be the glory.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
To God be the glory.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Anything you want to say before we get started this
week.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
No, okay, do you want me to say something?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
No'm just saying I'm hungry are you?
Yes I'm good right now.
So what's?
This week's episode entitled,titled, everyone, I'm hungry.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
This week's episode is titled Rest in Him.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Rest in Him.
Okay, rest in Him.
I think it's just supposed tobe rest.
Okay.
I did the rest in Him.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I was doing it as I was putting the notes together
and I just heard no rest okay,so it's called rest.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
it's just rest everyone.
So the song that uh came tomind that was playing that
really stood out by uh as I waslistening in on this is fall
down by bridge music, all Downby Bridge Music and Reggie Darby
.
So we would try to get those orget that set up for the video

(06:12):
so everyone can see it.
I wonder if I can get thelyrics, but if not, music.
Okay, you seem like you'retrying to find the lyrics.
Go ahead, babe.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Okay, well, this episode is titled Rest because,
the Lord wants us to share withyou how you find rest in him.
Not rest like you're tired andyou need to go to sleep, but
rest meaning you don't worryabout the cares of this world.

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And so your, your mind getsrest, your body gets rest yes,
that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It will put the song towards the end, but, um, the
key scripture that came to mindbecause I'm like, okay, I hear
you, god, I hear what you'resaying.
Right, but it was matthew 11,verse 28 and 30.
So, babe, you want to read that.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Sure it says come to me all of you who are weary and
carry heavy burdens, and I willgive you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, let meteach you, because I am humble
and gentle at heart, and youwill find rest for your souls.
For my yoke is easy to bear andthe burden I give you is light.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
So when we read that, I think it's a beautiful thing.
One of the things I wanted toreally look into is what is yoke
, right?
So the definition of yoke is awooden cross piece fastened over
the necks of two animalsattached to a plow or cart to

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pull together in unity.
And as I was looking into it,some of the things that stood
out is this it's to unite twobeings, right.
To carry a load together.
It's a yoke, essentially allowsto share in a burden, which is
what it was created for.
I believe is it oxes or oxen,ox, ox, that actually wears the

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yokes and it allows you to carryeach other burden.
So it makes the burden lighter,right, and the direct movement.
It's moving in the samedirection.
So when jesus really wasspeaking to us in the scripture,
he was basically saying takeoff that heavy burden that
you've had.
Take upon my yoke, which islighter, because I am going to

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carry this burden with you andteach you how to flow in this.
Teach you how to essentiallyrest in me, right?
Right.
And so when he's saying this tous, he's inviting us into a
partnership and it's offering toshoulder the weight with us,

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yeah, and guiding us.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It was key when he said this he's guiding us with
gentleness and peace.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Guiding us with gentleness and peace.
Yeah, when he said the partwhere, let me see.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
When he said, because I'm here, that was interesting
why I don't know why they'reblowing air on our side?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Why?
I don't know why they'reblowing it on all sides.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So take my yoke upon you, let me teach you, because I
am humble and gentle at heart.
That part stood out.
So even as he's teaching us.
It's like coming from a placeof humility within him, and it's
so important Okay.
So, as I'm reading this, whatstands out to you, because
you're smiling.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
No, I just got the image of tug of war.
And yo, why are they blowingtheir horns so loud?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I do not know.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Every time we record, it's always something it is.
We got to pause for like 20, 30minutes.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Eventually, everyone we are believing God that we're
going to have a studio where wecan soundproof it, that still
set it up, to have a wholeliving room set.
It's going to be multiple setsbecause God has placed on our
hearts to get into short filmsand doing different things and
even full films.
That is quote unquote is basedoff the inspirations and the

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guidance of the Holy Spirit,which is something that we
rarely see.
And then, most importantly,which is always interesting to
us and I'm going on a tangentbecause this is something I'm
passionate about but we withinfilm and within TV, right we are
we rarely see things createdfrom this quote unquote

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Christian genre that is at aheightened level of excellence,
where it's like the storyline isthere, all of these different
things are there.
The only thing I've actuallyseen and if we can, we may

(11:32):
actually try to tag that in theend that really stood out, is
the cleaner, which is a shortfilm on youtube.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I can add it to um the the end end where the videos
pop up.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's an amazing short film that we saw that really
touched my heart, with the waythe writer put it together, the
way the producers did what theydid, the entire team, the actors
, all of them.
It was an amazing job, job, andit is such an amazing thing
that's needed within the body ofchrist for the stories, our

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stories, to be told, because thekingdom of god is so
interesting, it's so beautifulit's so vast, it's so complex,
yeah we have our ownquote-unquote superheroes within
the kingdom of God.
That would make Marvel when DCcomics, look like amateurs.
Jesus Christ alone is theultimate superhero.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, it's like we get tired of seeing that, like
we don't get tired of watchingstories of Jesus, but it's
literally like the same storyand it's not even an accurate
depiction, because I have to behonest and y'all might get some
people might get mad.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
We're just going to call it what it is.
Jesus is not caucasian.
Jesus also is in, uh, jamaican.
He is a middle eastern man.
No, he doesn't he was every,every bit of.
He don't have dreads samson haddreads he did.
He is every bit of a MiddleEastern brown man and we have to
remember, even when we look atthe context of things now, many

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of the cultures are mixed down.
So he was brown and he workedin the sun and he was a
carpenter, so his hands wererough and he had curly hair,

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they like.
Let's not even just get intothe geographical importance of
where he was located and wherehis father and mother was
located.
So, please, I see very fewpeople that depict Jesus based
on a context of who he was, howhe looked during this period of
time.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
And people keep saying that it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It does.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It does matter.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
It does matter.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
If I'm African, I want you to portray me as an
African.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
If Dr Martin Luther King Jr is a black man, why are
we going to have?
Why are we going to cast him asan Asian?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Why are we going to cast him as white Right, if, if
um because it just, it justtakes away the, the it's, it
softly takes away the identity.
It's like you're taking awaythe identity, the true nature of
who this person is.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Listen, it's like trying to make Santa Claus black
or Asian.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
But you can.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You can't, because Santa Claus, who he was based
off of the story of who he is.
He was essentially a Europeanman.
This is just the reality ofwhat it is, just like you can't
say that George Washington was aAsian guy, black guy, hispanic
guy, yeah, it's literally likeyeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know, george Washington was a white man and
he had wooden teeth.
But if you casted a black manto portray, George Washington.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
It would be like no, why?
So please stop.
That's what I'm like.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Because people say it doesn't matter, it does, it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
We need people in this space that will be real and
authentic to who Christ is, butwe're getting out of place.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
So, yeah, that's a lot.
We're getting a of place.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, so yeah, that's our heart.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, but getting back to on subject, what I was
saying was when you were talkingabout the yoke, what came to me
was Doug O'War and you werewatching like the military thing
.
What came back to me was thatvideo and how you know if you're
one person and you werewatching like the military thing

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.
What came back to me was thatvideo and how you know if you're
one person and you're playingtug of war against like four or
five people, they're going totear you up, right, because you
don't have enough weight.
But if there's five of you andyou're pulling, it doesn't feel
as bad.
There you don't have to use allof your weight, all of your

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might, all of your strengthbecause you have backup.
So it's like you, the holyspirit, god the father and jesus
, which is like, it's like thethe it's the ultimate
partnership.
It's like the infinity rings.
What is it?
Is it the?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
affinity rings like the, the, the it's like the
infinity rings.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It's the ultimate team.
Is it the affinity rings Likethe fist, with all of the
different.
Oh yeah, when he just snappedhis finger and it just destroyed
everything.
Yeah, that's who God is Forthose who watch.
That's who God is Amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, so it's like you're coming up against,
because it literally is a tug ofwar right's a it's we're
talking about two kingdoms.
We're fighting two kingdoms,and the kingdom of darkness is
trying to pull you one way, andthen the holy spirit is trying
to pull you another way, but ifyou just hold on tight enough
and partner with them, you candefeat them yes, right, it

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becomes easier.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
The load becomes lighter.
It becomes an easier load tobear.
Right.
And babe, make sure your phoneis on.
Do not disturb, because Iforgot to put mine on.
It is I just had a phone call,though, but it was on vibrate.
So as I was going through allof this right and let me make
sure, let me see I'm lookingthrough some stuff you talked

(17:05):
about that.
What you looking through somestuff?
We talked about that.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
What are you looking through?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Notes Okay.
So one of the things that Iwant to speak on is one of the
greatest challenges we face asbelievers is finding rest.
We live in a world where thereare constant burdens that are
pushing for our attention, yetwe are called to find rest in
Christ Right.

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And.
I think that is so importantand that leads us into Psalms 91
.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Okay, which?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
is what came to mind.
Okay.
And Psalms 91, I will read thatreal quick.
And this is a beautiful chapter.
I believe everyone should readit.
Add this to your list of thingsto read.
It says verse one those wholive in the shelter of the most
high will find rest in theshadow of the almighty.

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This I declare about the Lord.
He alone is my refuge, my placeof safety.
He is my God and I trust him,For he will rescue you from
every trap and protect you fromdaily disease.
He will cover you with hisfeathers, he will shelter you
with his wings.
His faithful promises are yourarmor and protection.

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Do not be afraid of the terrorof the night, nor the arrow that
flies in the day, Mm-hmm.
Around you.
These evils will not touch you.
Just open your eyes and see howthe wicked are punished.
If you make the Lord yourrefuge, if you make the Most
High your shelter, no evil willconquer you, no plague will come
near your home, for he willorder His angels to protect you

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wherever you go.
They will hold you up withtheir hands so you won't even
hurt your foot on a stone.
You will trample upon lions andcobras.
You will crush fierce lions andserpents under your feet.
The Lord says I will rescuethose who love me.
I will protect those who trustin my name.
When they call on me, I willanswer.

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I will be with them in trouble.
I will rescue and honor them.
I will reward them with a longlife and give them my salvation.
My hands are burning up as I'mreading this.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
This is so powerful it's a very powerful prayer.
You can decree over yourself,decree over your family, decree
over your children.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
We talked about this and so when?
And I jumped ahead, but it'sfine, I'll go back to that and
it's not even in here, but toGod be the glory, we're going to
talk about it anyway.
I thought it was right here.
So we talked about this, right.
Our address is our address.

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You all have your physicaladdress.
Your spiritual address shouldbe in him, in that secret place.
That should become a placewhere you dwell.
That should become a placewhere you dwell, resting and

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finding rest in him is gettingto a point where the scripture
tells us what we have to live inthe shelter of the most high.
The problem is we don't livethere.
Spiritually we don't live there.
We have our physical addresswhere we live and we rest and we
lay our heads at night, butspiritually we'd be all over the
place.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Spiritually we'd be all over the place, because we
allow the enemy to take us toplaces that we should not be.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And then, even as I was reading this, it's so
amazing because it says in verse11, psalms 91, verse 11, nlt
version for he will order hisangels to protect you wherever
you go.
You know what that tells me.
When you rest in him, you don'teven have to ask for these
things, he automatically takescare of it.
Now I don't have to pray.

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Father God, please send yourangels forth to protect me.
Lord Jesus, send your angelsforth to protect me.
No, the scripture says that heorders them to protect me.
Lord jesus, send your angelsforth to protect me.
No, the scripture says that heorders them to protect you
because you are living in theshelter of the most high and you
find rest there, because this,come, becomes the place that you

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dwell.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, yeah, it's constant prayer.
It's constantly incommunication with god, the
father and god the son.
It's consecration is holiness,is sanctification every thought
taken captive, lord is issuewhat do you?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
think about this how are you doing today?
Yeah, it's so important, right,and the thing is, this is so
good.
The issue we have is many of usis just visiting, we don't
dwell.
We visit that space, we don'tdwell there.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And it's hard because we get distracted, we get
distracted.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Which is why you have to make a conscious decision to
remain in God's presence, inthe presence of the Lord, and
this is so good.
Rest is not a moment, it is aposture of life.
It becomes a posture of life,it becomes a way of life, it
becomes your lifestyle to rest,it becomes your lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, so it's constantly walking and talking
with the Lord, not having tomake decisions on your own, and
relying on him to lead you,relying on the spirit to lead
you and guide you.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, it's constant and I think that's so important
that we do that, and it requiresus getting to a place of just
really surrendering to him.
Yeah.
Because even when you readMatthews 11, we have to make the

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decision to take upon the yoke.
That's why he says take my yoke, because the burden I give you
is light.
Yeah.
Take upon my yoke, Right?
Isn't that what he says?
Like literally, he's like whatI'm placing upon you is light.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, because he's bigger and he's stronger.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Exactly he can carry the weight.
Exactly.
Take my yoke upon you.
Let me teach you, because I amhumble and gentle at heart, and
you will find rest for yoursouls.
For my yoke is what Jesus issaying is easy to bear and the
burden I give you is light incomparison to the heavy burden

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that you've been carryingbecause you've been trying to do
this on your own the entiretime.
And what Jesus is saying is youcan find rest in me.
You can find rest in me.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's hard to do because we're so used to having
to do things on our own.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
But it's right there.
It's right there in front of us.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
But they don't teach you that they're like go out and
do this, go out and do this.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
They don't say say, hey, maybe you should ask god
about this first before youleave the house, exactly before
you put that application in,before you do this, before you
do that but we have toconsistently present that
question right are you carryingyour own yoke or have you

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exchanged it for God's?
For Christ.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Right.
And then even in your healingprocess, people are out here
going to therapy which there'snothing wrong with therapy, but
it's not working for you.
Or you're out here and nowyou're addicted to alcohol or
drugs because you're trying tonumb something, you're trying to
heal something, you're tryingto break something off of you,

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doing all these practices, allthese modalities.
You're going to the spa, you'regoing to the gym, you're doing
all these things except forallowing God to carry that
weight for you, you keepcarrying it and that's why
everything you're doing is notworking, so that when you stop
doing it, you fall, you fall.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, the thing is that we were never designed to
carry it in the first place.
It was never something that wasmeant for us to carry, which is
why Jesus came in the firstplace, because it was a struggle
for us to do it.
We always failed.
It was always too much for usto bear.
It's not how we were designed.
We were always designed to beled by the spirit of God and

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guided by the spirit of God ineverything we do, because he
created us.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
He created us.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
So I think from here you know, do you have um isaiah
53 in here?
I don't, okay, because whatcame to me was jesus taking on
the weight of the world.

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And um isaiah 53, verse 4through 5 this is the nib
version says surely he took upour pain and bore our suffering.
Yet we considered him punishedby God, stricken by him and
afflicted.
But he was pierced for ourtransgressions, he was cursed

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for our iniquities.
The punishment that bought uspeace was on him, and by his
wounds we are healed.
So he literally just bore itall for us Every burden, every
fear, every anxiety everystressor every illness, every

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disease.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
But we still carry it when we don't have to.
We still carry it when we don'thave to and it's just.
I get it because we'reconstantly being pulled, and in
today's world, we're constantlybeing pulled by responsibilities
, fears, expectations andpressure, and even in our
spiritual lives, we can striveinstead of rest.

(27:44):
Yeah, which is crazy, like wehave to understand that true
rest requires surrender, awillingness to let go and dwell,
and that is challenging for usto do in 2025.
Especially in America andthroughout the rest of the world

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.
Yeah, it's getting harder andharder.
Because of technology,technological advancements.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Because we're in the end times.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
We're in the end times, the enemy don't want us.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
He wants to keep us distracted and laden with
burdens.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So he consistently create additional distractions
for us.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Absolutely so.
Moving on, babe, you want toget Psalms 23.6?
Because I know that's somethingthat came to you to put in
there.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Why was that something that was placed on
your heart?
Because, as I was working onthe notes, you told me to
include Psalms 23.
Why was that so important?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh, just because he gives you rest, the first.
The Lord is my shepherd.
I shall not want he make me liedown in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.
He restores my soul and placesme on a path of righteousness,
for his name's sake.
So he makes you lie down ingreen pastures.

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He restores your soul.
That restores your soul healing.
He makes me lie down, meaninghe leads me to a place of rest
and stillness with him, becausehe's walking right there beside
me.
He's my shepherd.
I am the sheep.

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You have to think of yourselfas the sheep.
You don't go anywhere withoutyour shepherd.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Your shepherd.
The thing is your shepherd isnot going to lead you into chaos
.
He's going to shelter you.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
He's going to shepherd you.
He's going to shepherd you, butthere's a trust that the sheep
have for the shepherd and whatthe sheep knows the shepherd's
voice.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
They recognize it.
Right, but you have tocontinually be in his presence.
The sheep have to continuallybe in the shepherd's presence.
They build a relationship.
They know his voice, they knowhis scent, they know what he
looks like.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
So that's perfect for you to go into John 15, four
through five.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
No, you want me to read this right here.
It says john 15, 4 through 5,says remain in me and I will
remain in you.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is served
from the vine and verse 5 saysand just to dig in further, and
it's in verse 5, because I thinkyou're reading from the notes
it says and you cannot befruitful unless you remain in me
.
Key right, that's how it says.
And you cannot be fruitfulunless you remain in me.
Key Right that's how verse fourends out and you cannot be

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fruitful unless you remain in me.
Verse five says yes, I am thevine, you are the branches.
Those who remain in me and I inthem will produce much fruit,
For apart from me, you can donothing.
Right.
Apart from me, you can donothing.
Right Apart from me, you can donothing.
The thing that's so interestingwith this is that we forget the

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importance of understandingthat this applies to every part
of our lives.
Right.
Okay, remaining in him is aboutmore than just bearing fruit.
Right.
It's about life itself, and it'sso important to understand that
, apart from him, we losedirection, peace, strength and
clarity.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right, it's his leading.
Exactly, it's his leading you.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Every part of your life, every area, every inch of
your life.
I know this is primarily apodcast that is centered around
relationships, marriages, etc.
Yet this is also one that Godhas placed in our heart and it's
the passion for us, for thoseto have a greater relationship
with the Father, a greaterrelationship with the Son, a

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greater relationship with theHoly Spirit.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right, because those relationships will teach you how
to have earthly relationships.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
The examples of learning how to lead, how to
serve.
They all come from theserelationships that you have with
the Father.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
It's so key that you understand that the Holy Spirit
is a person.
He is a person right that youhave God the Father, god the Son
and God the Holy Spirit.
They're one, yet threedifferent entities.
Right.
And you have to understand whatroles each one play Right, so

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you don't mistaken one for theother.
Right.
The Holy Spirit being what therevealer of all truth.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Right.
God the Father, being God theFather, that revelation that you
get, that, oh uh-huh yeah.
Thank you, Holy Spirit.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Part of it and I'm not going to get off subject
Part of the issue that we havein the church today.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
You can't say it.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I can, I just don't want to.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Do you have to say it .
It relates to peoplemisconstruing who God the Father
is.
Part of the issue we strugglewith today is that we become so
focused on earthly fathers quoteunquote spiritual fathers that
we forget that God is our truespiritual father.
There are people in our livesthat play a role of quote

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unquote leadership or mentor,slash mentee.
But you know, I was having aconversation with Rich today and
we had an interestingconversation and I'm not
knocking anyone for doing it,because sometimes we just don't
know.
Yeah, but Jesus said what youdon't call anyone your father.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Right, except for the one in heaven, exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Part of the reason that our relationship with the
father is complicated.
Or I will pose a question toyou and you can just have this
and what scripture was that thatwe were discussing?
Let me see.
What scripture was that, babe?
Can you find that scripture?
The scripture that states whenJesus said that you don't call

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anyone your father except thefather.
He was speaking to thePharisees.
I want to pose a question toeveryone, and this also, I
believe, goes along the lines ofresting in him, resting with

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hearing the voice of the fatherand having an intimate and
personal relationship with thefather, because you're so
convoluted by what you have setin place or misconstrued, as
your spiritual father yeah, it'sMatthew 20.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I know it was Matthew , I just didn't know this
chapter verse Matthew 23,.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Verse nine Could you read?
Because, starting at verse oneand I want people to read this,
I want you to pray on this andwe already know about Paul,
because Paul looked at people,he had Timothy and Timothy was
like a son to him, and the Bibletalked about Paul having sons
and daughters right, but I wantto read this to see what Jesus

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said about this and why he saidthis.
And you said that's Matthew 10?
.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Matthew 23.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Matthew 23, verse.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Nine.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Okay, Could you start reading from verse one please?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Verse one Okay.
Then Jesus said to the crowdsand to his disciples the
teachers of religious law andthe Pharisees are the official
interpreters of the law of Moses.
So practice and obey whateverthey tell you, but don't follow
their example, for they don'tpractice what they preach.

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They crush people withunbearable religious demands and
never lift a finger to ease theburden.
Everything they do is for show.
On their arms they wear extrawide prayer boxes with scripture
verses inside and they wearrobes with extra long tassels,

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and they love to sit at the headof the table at banquets and in
the seats of honor in thesynagogues.
They love to receive respect,respectful greetings as they
walk in the marketplaces and tobe called rabbi.
To be called rabbi.

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Don't let anyone call you rabbi, for you have only one teacher
and all of you are equal asbrothers and sisters.
And don't address anyone hereon earth as father, for only God
in heaven is your father.
And don't let anyone call youteacher, for you have only one
teacher, the Messiah.
The greatest among you must bea servant, but those who exalt

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themselves will be humbled andthose who humble themselves will
be exalted.
What sorrow awaits you,teachers of religious law, and
you pharisees, hypocrites, foryou shut the door of the kingdom
of heaven in people's faces.
You won't go in yourselves andyou don't let others enter

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either so jesus becomes ourultimate example.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
And the reason that this was so key is because the
Pharisees were becoming soenamored by their title, they
were so puffed up, it was fullof pride.
So it was like you call meteacher, you call me father, you
call me this.
And if you notice, with Jesus,by all account, the relationship

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that Jesus had with thedisciples whom he called, he
picked out one by one.
One would say that they werehis spiritual sons, but he never
referred to them as that.
No.
He referred to them as hisdisciples.
Right, he always referred tothe father as the father.
Right.

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And told us to refer to thefather as the father.
So when he's saying, don't callanyone father, he's saying that
your spiritual father is Godthe father.
Right.
So the challenge becomes and Iget, because we get so
convoluted in religiouspractices and religious ways and
this has always been done, andwe saw Paul do this and so forth

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and so forth Could it be thatwe misconstrued what Paul was
saying?
Could it be that the languagethat Paul had to describe the
type of relationship between himand those that he had been
called to disciple?
Could it be that there was nolanguage to describe the type of
relationship he had with them?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
No, because they weren't just little brothers or
little sisters.
They were literally like my son, like I feel like you're a son
to me because I don't havechildren, I don't have a
daughter.
You're the closest thing Icould get to family.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
But we took that right.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
And we said this is the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
But no.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Now I'm your spiritual father and you're my
spiritual son.
Now I'm your spiritual motherand you're my spiritual daughter
.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
But Jesus literally forbids the use of father as a
spiritual or religious title.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Y'all not going to like this, but this is just.
This is Bible.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Because it opens the door for idolatry.
It does.
It opens the door for idolatry.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
That's the point Jesus was making.
That's the point he was making.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Because the role of a spiritual father belongs to God
.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yes, yes, and that's why you have some people that
would use this.
We see time and time again whatquote unquote fathers in the
faith, where they convolute thatand they become so engulfed in
this power.
Now you are saying you'restruggling to hear from God, but
I would argue could it be andI'm just presenting this could

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it be that your spiritual father, that you've made your
spiritual father on earth, hasnow become your God?
And I would take this and prayabout this, because you would
say, oh, God has called and saidthat this is supposed to be my
spiritual father.
We had this conversation withthe father.
We did God who do you want tobe our spiritual father?
What he did.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Our mother.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Did he answer?

Speaker 2 (40:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
He had us come across a teaching and it started a
conversation and he providedscriptures as we were reading
that showcase what Jesus said.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Right and Jesus said it for a reason.
He said it for a reason Becauseif you are under a spiritual
leader, spiritual father, andthere's nothing wrong with
having a mentor, there's nothingwrong with you having a teacher
, because people teach right.
But, I'm not calling youteacher.
You're still my brother, mybrother, my big brother.

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He teaches me stuff.
My big sister they teach youstuff.
Right, but you don't call yourbig brother or sister your
teacher.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Now, this is not to negate the fact that you've been
called to be an apostle.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
No.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Or you've been called to be a prophet, or you've been
called to be an evangelist, oryou've been called to be a
pastor.
But what we're saying is thatwe have to be careful, because
this could be part of the reasonwhy you struggle with hearing
the voice of God.
It's convoluted.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, because you're looking to man for You've become
engulfed in religion orreligious practices.
Well, religious practices andtradition.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
And tradition.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
It's honorable for me to sit and listen to this
apostle or my spiritual father,even if I have my own
revelations, I don't even speakabout it because they have their
own doctrine.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
But you have Jeremiah that when the Lord called him
and said I'm too young to be aprophet, and he looked at him
and he rebuked him.
What are you saying You're tooyoung, you will go where I tell
you to go and say what I tellyou to say.
This literally contradicts theteachings many times in the
church.
The teachings many times in thechurch Because, by all accounts

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, jeremiah is not in the place,as far as his age, to be able to
do what he's doing so, theultimate teacher is the Holy
Spirit.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
That's why you have to be humble.
That's why the Bible speaksabout having these titles.
You should not have a title.
You don't go by a title,because we're all students,
we're all one body.
We all have different functions.
You have to be in a place where, if God wants to use a rock to
talk to you, that you would beable to receive revelation from

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that rock or that donkey, orthat three-year-old which is why
, even when you look at Paul, hewas always stating that he
remained in the space ofhumility.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
He made it clear.
I could boast about things if Iwant to, but I don't, because
it means nothing in comparisonto what Jesus has given me to do
and my relationship with himand who Christ is.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Because the Lord will use anyone to speak to you.
I think even our youngest.
She said stuff in times where Ineeded to hear something and
she'll say and I'm like wheredid you get this from?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Both kids.
They say things Wow, you haveto be in a space to receive,
because God can use whomever hedecides.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, they're like baby, baby, you're right.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
But we would say to you take this and pray on it.
Read that what my wife justread.
What was that Matthew?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Matthew 23.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Read Matthew 23, verse 1 through 13.
Pray on it and really presentit to the Father.
And the question is could it bethat we are misconstruing
relationships?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Right, we can't exalt anyone over God.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
And that is a big thing within the body of Christ.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
And you can say it's tradition.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Over the church.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
You can say it's tradition.
But we don't go off oftradition.
No, we go off the church.
You can say it's tradition butwe don't go off of tradition.
No, we go off the word.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
We don't go off of culture.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
We don't go off of tradition.
We don't go off religion.
This is kingdom.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
This is what Rich was talking about earlier, A friend
of mine, a friend of ours.
It's kingdom based.
It is kingdom.
The problem is we aren't goingbased on kingdom.
Christ was teaching us kingdomprinciples.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Right, because now you're putting someone in a
position that would compete withGod.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
You're putting someone in a position that only
God is supposed to be in.
God is the father.
Who's your spiritual father,God?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Now, there's nothing wrong with having counsel,
because the Bible tells us weshould have counsel.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yes, but when you look at it once again, ask
yourself this question If thisis the way Jesus called things
to be, why?
Did he not refer to his?
Disciples as his sons?
No, because by all accountsthey would be considered his
sons.
He taught them, they spent timewith them, they looked up to
him, they looked to him, he ledthem, he guided them.

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Yet he always referred to thefather as the father, and he
always referred to them andsaying they referred to him as
rabbi or teacher.
Right.
Or the Messiah Right, the son ofGod.
He's the high priest, he's notthe father, but that's neither

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here nor there.
I think we got a few moreminutes.
They're not going to like that.
Leaders in the church is notgoing to like that.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
That's okay, it's the truth.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
So we did resting, we got carried away.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
We haven't got to eight.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Okay.
So Luke 1, verse 26 through 45,.
As I was taking down the notes,it's what came to mind and I
believe it's so perfect becauseMary is one of the greatest
examples of really resting inthe word of God.
And I think that's Luke 1, andI said what?

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28?
So for time's sake, I will.
This is basically when theangel of the Lord came to Mary
to tell her that she would haveJesus right and gave her the
prophecy.
One question, verse 34, andeveryone read this, but we'll

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start at 34.
Mary asked the angel but howcan this happen?
I am a virgin.
Verse 35,.
The angel replied the HolySpirit will come upon you and
the power of the most high willovershadow you.
So the baby to be born will beholy and he will be called the
son of God.
What's more, your relativeElizabeth has become pregnant.

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In her old age, people used tosay she was bearing, but she has
conceived a son and is now inher sixth month.
For the word of the Lord, orthe word of God will never fail.
I'm struggling right now.
Mary responded I am the Lord'sservant.
May everything you have saidabout me come true.
And then the angel of the Lordleft A few days later, verse 39,

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mary hurried to the hillcountry of Judea, to the town
where Zachariah lived.
She entered the house andgreeted Elizabeth.
At the sound of Mary's greeting, elizabeth's child leaped
within her and Elizabeth wasfilled with the Holy Spirit.
Elizabeth gave a glad cry andexclaimed to Mary, god has

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blessed you above all women, andyour child is blessed.
Why am I so honored that themother of my Lord should visit
me?
When I heard your greeting, thebaby in my womb jumped for joy.
You were blessed because youbelieve that the Lord would do
what he said.
That means that Mary wasimmediately pregnant.
But one of the greatest thingsthat I love about this right is

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what the scripture shows us iswhen the angel of the Lord came
forth with the word of God, sheimmediately received it and she
rested in it.
She accepted it, she believedit became life to her.
She didn't question it.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
She didn't doubt it.
No, she didn't question it.
She didn't doubt it she didn'task how so it's the key thing,
right?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Mary did not try to analyze or control the outcome.
She just rested in the beliefeven though it did not make
sense, because she was a virginthat she would conceive by way
of the Holy Spirit.
So this is good.
True rest is not alwaysphysical, it's spiritual

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agreement with what God says.
Yeah.
So the question becomes in yourlife, and even for my wife and I
, in our lives what is it thatGod has said to us that we have
not rested in that word?
What is it that God has said toyou that you have not rested in
that word?
And our example of what restlooks like I believe one of the

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greatest examples is the motherof the son of God himself.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
It's hard to do because we try to think
logically and we have toremember that God's ways are not
our ways.
Yes, and what came to me waswhen baby girl she.
She was like, yeah, I want to,I'm going to fly.
She was like I'm going to fly,I don't want to say baby, you
can't fly.
She was like, yeah, I want to,I'm gonna fly.
She was like I'm gonna fly, Idon't say baby, you can't fly.
She was like, well, why not?
Why can't I fly?

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It's like the thought of that.
I didn't even think that Icouldn't fly, I didn't even
think that it wasn't possible.
She's like my mommy.
I didn't even, I couldn't evengive her an answer.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's having a child like I couldn't even get her
answer because I it was having achildlike faith.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I couldn't even give her an answer because I didn't
want her to feel bad about notbeing able to fly, but she
didn't have a thought that itcan't be possible.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And so we have to have that same thought process
when it comes to God.
Like we can't say, oh well,that can't be possible.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, it's as simple as that, or how is that going to
?
happen.
Childlike faith, childlikefaith.
So, okay, there is a rest inrepentance, right, a return to
the word of God over your life,and I think that's what we all
have to do Return to the word ofGod spoken over our life.

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And if you don't know what theword of God is for your life, go
to him, seek him and see whatthe word of God is for your life
.
Resting in God is trusting inwhat he's spoken, even when you
don't see it Right.
So this means that we have tolet go of doubt, we have to let

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go of anxiety and we have torest again in the faithfulness
of god's word.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
And my hands are burning again right, and so if
you partnered with any words orany thoughts of what god can't
do or how he's going to do it,repent, repent.
Yeah.
And you find scriptures thattell you that you can trust in
him, that you can rest in him,that you can rely on him, that

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he's your provider, that he'syour healer, that he's your
redeemer and you stand on thosescriptures and you partner with
those words and you come out ofagreement with your mouth.
God, I'm sorry.
Forgive me for not believing inwhat you said, that I can't
have.
Forgive me for doubting thatyou can help me do this.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
And let James 1 and 5 and 8 be something that
actually you stand on.
And James 1 and 5 and 8, or 1,5 through 8 says let me see,
because this is going to be keyto really tie into what my wife
said.
Verse 5 says I didn't even knowthat was coming after that If
you need wisdom, ask ourgenerous God and he will give it
to you.
He will not rebuke you forasking, but when you ask him, be

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sure that your faith is in Godalone.
Do not waver, for a person withdivided loyalty is as unsettled
as a wave of the sea that isblown and tossed by the wind.
Such people should not expectto receive anything from the
Lord.
Their loyalty is dividedbetween God and the world world,

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and they are unstable ineverything they do.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, and this is really, really, really key,
because if God has told yousomething or promised you
something, or you are believingGod for something, you have to
just stick with that.
You can't go back and forthlike, oh my gosh, why is this
not happening?
Is he going to do it?
Is he not going to do it?
That's being double-minded.
You have to stand on God's word.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And it literally is a situation when you, when the
scripture talks about beingdouble-minded, what comes to
mind is God speaking a word overyour life and saying that it's
done.
Yeah.
So it's literally you trustingGod for what God spoke, or you
trying to do it your way.
So we see an example of thatfor what God spoke, or you
trying to do it your way.
Yeah.
So we see an example of thatwith Abraham and Sarah.

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God spoke a word over theirlives, and when God spoke that
word over their lives, he statedthat he would perform it right,
or even if there was amisunderstanding, they never
went back, so they tried tobring the word to pass.
That's being double-minded.
And even when the angel of thelord was speaking to abraham I

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believe it was the angel of thelord- or the lord.
One of the two, abraham, stilltried to get the promise
fulfilled by way of eyes, I meanby way of uh ishmael right, but
the lord said no he said noright, and I believe you don't
expect me to bless that?

Speaker 3 (54:09):
no, because that was your way of trying to right,
you're being double-minded right?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
so, um, and that goes into what was you saying, they
didn't receive isaac because ofthe lord.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
They did it out of their own strength and so rest
requires isaac, I meant ishmael,yeah so rest requires
consistency and faith.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
If god said it, that settles it right yeah and babe,
do you want to uh dig into realquick the fruit of west rest
peace, clarity and freedom thefruit of west of west silly
rabbit tricks are the fruit ofrest, peace, clarity and freedom

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.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
So resting in him brings freedom from striving
clarity of purpose, peace beyondall understanding.
And it's peace beyond allunderstanding meaning it's a
rest, it's a peace.

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You don't have to think abouthow it's going to happen when
it's going to happen.
Who's going?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
to come by.
It's simple when peace beyondunderstanding, understanding it
don't make sense you should nothave peace based upon what
you're dealing with.
Yet you still have it becauseyou've rested in him right.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
but, and even in resting in him, you still have
to put on your full armor of god, because the enemy is going to
continue to keep throwing thingsat you to keep you from being
peaceful.
He comes to steal, he's goingto try and steal your peace.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
He's going to try and steal your joy, and he does it
all the time.
But, we have to remember to puton our full armor of God, which
we do every morning, yeah,every morning, because the enemy
will be trying to come for us.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
It's not easy, it's not easy, it is not easy.
No, and we have to remember todo it and we have to remember to
remain committed, and westruggle sometimes with some
words that God has spoken of ourlives.
Yes, because we're human.
Yeah.
And so, even as we arediscussing this week's episode,
it resonates with us as well,and it places us in the position

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of having to doself-reflections too to make
sure we're resting in the wordof God or the words of God
spoken over our lives.
So, um, final reflection, Iguess I would say this and then
I'll hand it over to my wife toend out say this and then I'll

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hand it over to my wife to endout, and this is totally off
subject.
We have to be very careful withusing the word false prophet.
We have to be very careful withreferring to prophets as
witches.
We have to be very careful withaccusing people of purposefully

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practicing divination.
We have to be very careful withvery easily throwing around the
word heresy and doctrines ofSatan or doctrines of demons.

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I am really concerned with thebody of Christ that we so easily
throw these things around.
I am really concerned with thebody of christ because we forget
that they refer to jesus asessentially someone that was
driven by demons.

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Right.
I am very concerned becausewhen jesus explained to them
what blasphemy against the holyspirit was, it was them
referring to him being driven bydemons when he was being guided
and led by the holy spirit.
So what?
We don't understand.
When you do that unknowingly,you are literally blasphemy

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against the holy spirit.
That's very dangerous.
So we have to stop.
My wife and I, she can attest.
I'm very slow to call someone afalse prophet.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
I'm very slow to speak against a prophet that's
been called by God, unless Godtells me specifically as
something that's going on withthem.
And even then I leave them inthe hands of God, because even
Satan, gabriel or Gabrielle didnot speak against him, even when

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he was wrong, even when he wentagainst God Gabrielle did not
fix his lips to speak againstSatan.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
No, because he's like God rebukes you.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
He said God rebukes you God rebukes you, so we got
to rebukes you.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
God rebukes you.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
So we got to be real careful, and I see we do this a
lot and it's so much divisionwithin the body of Christ,
partly because we're seeing theBible play out.
The church still have modernday Pharisees and some of y'all
leaders, many of y'all leadersare Pharisees.
Many of the quote unquote menand women of God that you all

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look to, that we all we look toat one point in time, they're
Pharisees.
They don't have a relationshipwith God.
As I was praying this morning,something God was dealing with
me on is that many, like on aSunday morning, there are so
many churches that gather forworship not even realizing that

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God is not there.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Right, because they're so caught up in their
emotions.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
God is not there, I'm sorry.
I'm trying to find a scripture.
God is not there and even ourvery worship is something that
God was dealing with meyesterday at church.
Even our very worship isself-centered, our worship is
self-centered, our worship isself-centered.
So, please, I'm I'm asking youall, be very careful of

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listening to people.
Who's calling people witches.
Who's calling people falseprophets witches.
Who's calling people falseprophets.
Who's saying that people ispracticing divination, even if a
man of God, a woman of God,falls short, that don't make
them a witch, that don't makethem a false prophet, and that

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is for God to handle, not you.
That is for God to handle it is.
I'm not going to do it becausethe Bible says touch not my
anointing, neither do myprophets any harm.
That is between them and God.
Right, right.
And I said it last week, Ibelieve, or the week before stop
listening to people, stopentertaining channels.
Stop entertaining people whohave made it a practice to

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gossip.
If all they have to do is talkabout everybody and everything
they're doing wrong, and that istheir channel, you should not
be listening to them, becausethat is very much so.
A person or people that arebeing driven by their flesh.
That is Galatians 5.
Right, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Oh, no, no, no, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
But that's it, because we got to get right in.
So what do you have to say,babe?

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Oh no, I was looking at Galatians 6.
It says Dear brothers andsisters, if another believer is
overcome by some sin, you whoare godly or spiritual should
gently and humbly help thatperson back to the right path
and be careful not to fall intothe same temptation yourself.
Share each other's burdens andin this way, obey the law of

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Christ.
If you think you are tooimportant to help someone, you
are only fooling yourself.
You are not that important.
So it's like who are you tocome for this person?
And they'll say, oh, we'resupposed to be exposing.
And it says, right here, youwho are spiritual, you should be
able to spiritually locate thisperson, pray for this person

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spiritually, go to God and prayfor them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Here's what I would tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
As God leads you to and allow him to do the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Here's what I would say to you If my father, which
are in heaven, if he isrevealing things to my wife and
I about prophets, or aparticular prophet that I'm
thinking of last year, andshowcase what was going on with

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them, yet tell me to pray, whyis he telling me to pray but
telling you to expose?
Why is God telling you toexpose someone you don't
personally know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
right, you don't personally have a relationship
with them, because if youpersonally had a relationship
with them, you would go to thembecause that's your brother or
that's your sister.
Just like, if I have a problemwith my brother or I have a
problem with my sister, I go tomy brother, my sister.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
You have a private conversation with them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
And if they don't listen, I go to my dad.
Hey dad, this is what's goingon with such and such and such.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
And even if you want to be, what do you think about
it?
Even if you want to go theroute that it was stated, you
will go to them first.
Then you will go to the eldersin the church, but you don't go
to their church.
So how are you going to go tothe elders in the church and
then you will, from there, speakto them about, or speak about,
what they're dealing with, tothe church?
The elders would expose them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
But y'all are so used to going on YouTube and
watching people talk about otherpeople when all they should be
doing is teaching about Christ,unless they other people when
all they should be doing isteaching about christ.
Unless they they have a churchand they want to expose their
own people, that's fine, butwe're talking about people who
just have literally tmz channelsfor christ it's, it's a lot of
tmz channels for christ orclaiming to be for christ that

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is nothing but but gossip.
But if you remove the gossip.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
If you remove that, what is the?
Do not tell me that God hascalled you to gossip.
No.
Because you never saw Christpartaking in that and he's our
ultimate example you never sawPaul partaking in that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
And then celebrating people's falls because you
exposed them, you didn't prayfor them, no, you just told pray
for them no.
You just told the world abouttheir sin.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Shame on you.
Shame on you and you will haveto answer to God.
And I would hate to be in thatsituation and I know it's not
God, because God has showcasedthings to us and he told us
either to pray or I'm showingthis to you because I don't want

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you listening to them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, it's a way that you handle things, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
How are we all doing all this stuff?
When Paul said I could speak ofall of these things but I'm not
going to.
But you, god told you, oh, togo onto YouTube and prophesy to
this person you've never met.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
You are in the pulpits talking about people,
people you don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Y'all just ridiculous Y'all.
The problem is and I'm going tojust call it how it- is You're
not that important.
Your leaders don't know God.
Your leaders don't have apersonal relationship because
there are times when we want togo in on people and he won't let
us.
That's called having a personalrelationship.
When we are justified in doingit, then the Holy Spirit won't
let us move.
That's having a personalrelationship.

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I know you don't because I seehow you move, Some of you.
I know you don't because Godtold me you don't.
But we ain't going to go there.
We're going to let it be whatit is.
This is the final episode, sowe're not going to.
This is an interesting place toend it, Babe.
Where do we end at?
Because I know we got to getready to go Do with this
information what you may.

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That's between you all and God.
Please don't entertain peoplelike that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Okay, I guess last minute reflections, so we could
close out is asking yourself, orasking God to reveal to you
what you may be carrying, thathe can help you with what you

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may be still struggling with,that he can help you heal from.
Why are you acting the way andso, and even when you have an
emotion, God?
Why am I acting the way and so,and even when you have an
emotion?
God, why am I feeling this way?
So that he can give you ananswer?
So you don't have to carry itbecause you know why you're
feeling this way.
You don't have to respond to it.
You don't have to respond to it.

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You allow God to respond to it,yeah, or allow him to lead you
on how you should approach thiswhen you're feeling this way or
you're dealing with certainstruggles, and then also, like I
said before, setting yourself,apart from those agreements that

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you came into about the doubtsabout what God is going to do
for you and I think that's ityeah, um, I know this has been.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
This is episode 28, and I want to say it again I'm
praying that god would allow usto kind of do a bonus episode or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
But or a live or something.
I don't know.
We'll see.
We don't.
We don't know what we'resupposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
We don't.
Well, I'm supposed to bewriting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
But prayerfully as we go into this three-month hiatus
we can come back and reallykind of pulse here in between.
We really appreciate you all.
We care so much for you all welove you all we do Our brothers
and sisters in the faith.
We are so grateful for thecommunity that's being built,
and I know some comments.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
We have not responded to yet Our big sisters and we
apologize Our little sisters,our big brothers, little
brothers, we love you.
We will get to your comments.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
We will.
You know it's been so muchgoing on.
It has been.
We appreciate you all and don'tstop Like, keep listening to
the episodes, Keep sharing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
And while we're I'm sorry, baby Go ahead.
While we're on a hiatus, youguys should be on one too From
distractions from people, fromplaces.
Just really take some time andrest in the Lord.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
And if you have any questions, we'll definitely be
checking everything andresponding as we can, as we're
going through this process andyou know we're praying.
If God allows us to do a bonusepisode at some point, we will,
but you know you will see us, atthe very least three months
from now, starting fresh withseason two.
We don't know what season two isgoing to entail we have no clue

(01:08:42):
what the Father is going tohave us discussing in season two
.
It should be interesting, but,yeah, yeah, we appreciate you,
we love you.
Uh, we're praying for you.
Yeah, we're praying over theseepisodes.
Uh, we're praying to this.
It's a blessing.
And, for those, if you haven'tlistened to the previous, go
back and listen to the previousones.
Listen to all of it.

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Uh, allow this to be a timewhere you do that too, to get
caught up for when we do dropseason two.
Yeah, so, babe, anything youwant to say no, I said, I think,
yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
You said it all okay well, we appreciate you guys, we
love y'all and we will seey'all in the season two, two
unless there's a bonus episodeor some lives we can do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Okay, don't know don't know, just if you don't
have your notifications on, turnthem on right, we might post
something I don't know we mightpost.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
You don't have your notifications on.
Turn them on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Right, we might post something I don't know.
We might post something wemight jump on live.
We don't know, we just do whatthe Lord tells us to do Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
He might tell me to post a post.
I'll post a post, a picture.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
And then, of course, my wife, go subscribe and be a
part of that community that Godis using her to build over there
too.
Brothers, I'm sorry I haven'tgot released to anything yet, so
at some point we'll have ashort film dropping.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
So, God bless you all .
God bless you all Be blessed.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
We will see you next season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Bye-bye.