What God Joined Together: Part One

Have you ever experienced a connection with someone that defied logical explanation? Our testimony reveals how God orchestrated a meeting between two unlikely people, creating an unbreakable spiritual bond that neither of us initially wanted nor understood.

In this raw and vulnerable episode, we share the remarkable journey of our God-ordained relationship. From our first encounter at an apartment complex parcel locker to the supernatural events that eventually led to our marriage, our story demonstrates how divine orchestration often operates beyond human understanding and timing.

What makes this testimony particularly powerful is that neither of us was immediately attracted to the other in the conventional sense. Walter describes being drawn to "something inside" me rather than my outward appearance, while I actively resisted any relationship after emerging from an abusive marriage. We take you through the challenging period of separation where Walter experienced intense spiritual encounters – regular dreams, visions, and even the audible voice of God repeatedly confirming that I was his wife.

This episode dives deep into spiritual warfare, unconditional love, and the biblical truth that a man's ministry begins with his wife and family. We share how God used our relationship to facilitate healing, spiritual growth, and ultimately establish a foundation for our shared purpose. The supernatural events that brought us back together after months of resistance reveal God's persistent work even when we fight against His divine plan.

Whether you're single, dating, married, or questioning God's design for relationships altogether, our testimony offers hope that sometimes what appears as incompatibility or resistance might actually be part of a greater divine orchestration. Subscribe now and share this episode with someone who needs encouragement that God is still in the business of writing love stories that transcend human understanding.

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Episode Transcript

Walter (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith,
where, together, we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat relationship with God can
impact the relationship you havewith others.
I'm your host, walter.
I'm joined here alongside mylovely wife.

Shanea (00:15):
Shania.

Walter (00:18):
We don't have any notes this week.
This is what episode 25?
Mm-hmm.
Any notes this week?
This is what episode 25?
Mm-hmm.
So I guess the way we startedoff is in prayer.
I prayed last week, right.

Shanea (00:39):
I don't remember, I think I did Okay.

Walter (00:43):
I think I prayed last week, so it's my lovely wife's
turn to pray, lead us in.
Did?
Okay, I think I prayed lastweek, so, as my lovely wife's
turn to pray, lead us in prayer.
Woman of God, prophet seer.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Father God, we thank you for this day.
We thank you for your love,your grace and your mercy.
Father God, we ask that youwill open up our followers and
listeners' eyes and ears to hearand see what it is that you're
saying.
In the mighty name of Jesus, wepray Amen.

Walter (01:10):
Amen, that was a very short prayer.
You look beautiful tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thank you, so do you.

Walter (01:24):
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Handsome Beautiful.

Walter (01:27):
Handsome.
Okay, I appreciate you, babe.
I might always be lookingbetter with you.
Just be kind of glistening.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Okay.

Walter (01:42):
So I don't know what this week's title is.
Um, what came to mind, and wewill figure it out by the time
we finish recording this episode.
Um, this week's episode is aninteresting one.
Why is it interesting this week, babe?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
This week.
This episode is going to beabout our we gotta talk louder.

Walter (02:27):
I guess, our testimony how we met.
I guess I don't really knowexactly.
We're just like going off thedome.
Today my wife got that Godwanted us to finally share how
we met, which is so weird to mebecause I am so private.
I'm very private.
I don't like for people to bein our business, and they've
gotten in our business beforeand they've gotten it wrong, so

(02:50):
but I do understand that.
I guess it's an amazingtestimony, it's a powerful
testimony.
It's an interesting story story.
And so I believe it's a Genesis2 story, a Matthew 19 story,

(03:18):
right?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Mm-hmm.
God-ordained.

Walter (03:21):
God-ordained marriage yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I guess that could be something along the title God
ordained marriage.

Walter (03:33):
I think we already have an episode, we will figure it
out.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I don't know.

Walter (03:37):
Currently it is untitled .
It is literally our story ofhow we met.
So you want me to start or youstart.

Shanea (03:47):
Mm-hmm.

Walter (03:49):
Because you had a prayer right.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I did I prayed and I have to go back and look at my
journal and I shared it with youWas it like a couple weeks ago,
when I found my journal.
Yeah, maybe a month.
Yeah, I had prayed about.
I prayed to God and asked himto give me someone who he

(04:22):
desired for me.
And then I had a list ofqualities, but they weren't like
superficial, they were.
They were like I wanted you tobe accepting of me.
That was like my prayer.

(04:42):
So it was like of me.
That was like my prayer.

Shanea (04:52):
So it was like allow him to be okay with me being goofy
and screaming randomly when Iwant to she does that a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
And you won't be upset about it, or when I get
get moody, you would be able tokind of mellow me out, or you
would be understanding which youare, because I do be moody
sometimes.
And what else did I ask for?

(05:24):
I asked that you would.
And what else did I ask for?
I asked that you would that youlike stuff that I like, so like
dorky stuff, I'm like, eventhough we don't watch that stuff

(05:45):
that we used to watch before,um, so like same subjects, um,
and then to be a family person,because you know, I was really
family oriented, um, so I don'tthink there were any anything
superficial.
They were all things that Ithink a family or marriage

(06:08):
should have, that you should beaccepting of me and I I am
accepting of you, and thatthere's nothing that I have to
change about myself to in orderto be loved by you or liked by
you.
And so that's what I wanted,but I, but the ultimate prayer
was God, just give me whoever itis that you want, yeah, me to

(06:32):
have.

Walter (06:34):
I don't think I had a particular prayer, because I
have I had strayed away from thechurch, and so during that
period of time, especiallyduring the pandemic, I was just
coming out of a really horriblerelationship and a really

(06:55):
horrible marriage and I wasfinding myself.
So I was beginning to noticethat there were similarities in
the relationships and thingslike that.
So I was trying to figure outwhat it was.
Yet, interestingly, my motherwas praying for me, she said.
She consistently prayed for meand her prayer was always that

(07:15):
God would lead me to whom he hadcalled for me to be with in so
many words.
And so I had a dream a coupleof months before meeting you,
and in that dream it was me andit was this young lady petite,
very long black hair, we all hadwhite on, we had white, we were

(07:38):
sitting or standing next to awhite table, next to a white
table.
We were in a church, because Iremember there being like a um,
a stage that you have like inthose churches.
I don't know what you wouldcall it, but you know like the
pulpit pulpit?
Yes, is that a pulpit?
I thought the pulpit is whatthey stand behind.
I don't know but yeah, it waslike set up like a church and

(08:01):
everything was just white,everybody had on white and I
remember it were like it was.
If I'm not mistaken it wasthree chairs.
That was at the front of thechurch.
It was someone in the middle ofthe chair, with someone on one
side and someone on the otherside, and I won't get into the
details, but we had aconversation, the person in the

(08:23):
dream.
I had a conversation with thisyoung lady and my entire life
flashed before my eyes with herand I knew in a dream I could
not do life without her.
And I woke up and it was very.
It stood out so much because Irarely dreamed before my
conversion and I told two of myfriends about it, and then I

(08:47):
just put it on the side yeah andI believe that was a few months
, if I'm not mistaken.
If not, it's like April orpossibly March that I had that
dream, but it was right beforewe met.
It was in the same year.
We like it was in the same yearso it was like a month before
possibly, possibly, a month, twomonths most, because I remember

(09:11):
talking to britney about thedream and she remembered the
dream and, interestingly, fastforward when I was going through
my conversion.
God brought the dream back tome because I forgot about the
dream and he also brought theconversation back to me that I
had with britney about the dreamso.
So let's get started.

(09:32):
Um, we met, I have I havepurchased a pair of yeezys.
We were in the same uh complexyeah and I got the.
I was excited to get theseeasies.
I was getting back on my shoegang and um got the notification

(09:53):
that they came.
I was at work, working fromhome, working remotely, and I
was gonna wait to go and getthem until after I got off.
Wasn't a big deal, but I justfelt this urge to go and get
them right then and there.
So I went to the parcel lockerto go and get them right there.
And were you going in or comingout?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I was going in.
I actually was on my way homefrom the gym and I had a package
, but I was going to go get itlater but I didn't.
Something told me to just makea U-turn.
So I just made a U-turn and Iwent to the parcel locker,

(10:37):
because I don't usually even gothat time of day, yeah.

Walter (10:41):
Yeah, and so we met each other.
I saw you and I was like, okay,she's beautiful, and I was
still.
I still do photography, but I'mlike I never shot anyone.
I never did a photo shoot withanyone that had natural curly
hair.
I don't even know how I knewyou had curly hair.
Did you have your hair in curls, or did you have a ponytail
that had curls in it, orsomething like that?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, my hair was out Okay.
Yeah, and.

Walter (11:04):
I was like this would be dope.
You're a beautiful woman.
I've never did a photo shootwith anyone with curly hair.
I would love to do a photoshoot with you.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Now, mind you guys, he waited for me.
I went into the parcel locker,had no idea he was there, and I
come out and he was standing byhis car like he was about to go
get in his car, but you didn't.

Walter (11:33):
you saw me she's trying to say I was like like pressed
okay I'm not saying you waspressed, I'm just saying that
you noticed it wasn't, I didn'tgo to your car and go home.
I noticed you, yes, but itwasn't from the perspective of
like, oh, I gotta get with her.
It was from the perspective oflike, I would love to work with

(11:55):
her oh, I think she's dope yes,and so she gave me her Instagram
.
Y'all, she gave me herInstagram.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I didn't give out my phone number so fast forward.

Walter (12:08):
We're getting in the car to go.
She leaves.
I'm leaving now.
It's like we're going in thesame direction and I'm like this
girl is going to think I amstalking her and come to find
out she lived a building overfrom me.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yes.

Walter (12:26):
So she went into her building, I went into mine.
Mind you, I had never seen heror her car, or either one of her
cars at any, like I've neverhad noticed it before.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah.

Walter (12:39):
I'd never seen her before, never seen her cars,
which was so weird because itwas right there where it was no
reason that I would not haveseen her or her vehicles because
of how I parked and where Iparked my car and I look back on
some of the photos I took of myvehicle because I used to wash
my car.
I'm in the cars, blah, blah,blah, and I saw her car in the

(13:02):
photos but I never noticed itbefore.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, I had been living there for like what,
seven months, seven months there.

Walter (13:10):
At that time.
Yeah, I thought she was therelonger.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I was there in 20.

Walter (13:19):
Because you moved there in 21, right.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, 21.

Walter (13:21):
And this was in 22.
Okay, so seven months Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, we met in 22.
Yeah, right.

Walter (13:29):
Yeah, yeah, had no clue.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Excuse me.

Walter (13:34):
Had no clue.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Had no clue.
Never seen you, didn't knowyour car existed, nothing, yeah,
and I used to walk and run inthe neighborhood.
Never saw you.

Walter (13:47):
So we do that.
I go on her social media andthis is so interesting.
I did not agree with the stuffthat she was posting and this
will be, uh, uh, this, thiswould be a nugget for women.
Um, be mindful of what you poston social media, because it it
um, even with the type of womenthat I would do photography with
, it was a certain look that Iwould go for, and so I'm like,

(14:13):
if you didn't have that look, Ididn't deal with you because I I
liked it.
The sophisticated looks the lessis more, not the less is in
like showing everything typesituation and so I was like,
okay, you know my homeboy, youknow I sent him the gram and he
was like, hook me up, hook me up.
I'm like I got you, but I'mtrying to do this photo shoot.

(14:35):
So, calm down, I'm trying to dothis photo shoot.
What are you saying?
It was always a case that shewas beautiful, you know, but
that's not what caught myattention.
And then I think we was tryingto set up a date.
Did you stand me up for thefirst date?
Because I know we shot after,or we did the photo shoot after,

(14:55):
mother's Day.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
No, you had wanted to do the photo shoot, maybe a
different time, and I couldn'tdo it.
And then we did the photo shoot.

Walter (15:06):
And when we did the photo shoot she showed up late.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I don't remember that .

Walter (15:11):
I remember it like it was the back of my hand, because
she finally trusted me enoughto get my phone number the day
of and I gave her mine and textme and said that she was going
to be running a little bitbehind.
An hour later she showed upthere, music blasting windows
down.

(15:33):
This little I don't know if youwould call it a scarf or
something like that silk scarfaround her hair like she was
coming from Paris or somethinglike that Just extra, extra,
like, okay, extra.
I'm like, okay, let's do this.
So we did the photo shoot right, talking to her um, full

(16:00):
disclosure, because I thinkthat'll go into later.
There was some stuff that wasgoing on with you and I was
trying to make you aware of, butyou didn't believe, you didn't
receive it.
You want to speak on that?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh yeah, because I always had my boobs out, my
breast was always showing, whichI was used to, and so I'm a
fairly heavy-chested woman andso, because of the previous

(16:35):
relationship I was in, it waslike that was like my best asset
, and so I felt like I had toshow it.
And then I showed it so muchthat I didn't know how much was
too much, because I was so usedto them being out all the time.

Walter (16:58):
So I was telling her I'm like, hey, you know they're
coming out.
Oh, it's cool, I'm like allright, and it just added to like
what I's cool, I'm like allright, and it just added to what
I saw and I was like all right,whatever we do, the photo shoot
, photo shoot was cool, but itwas after the photo shoot we had
a conversation.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
It was during the photo shoot.

Walter (17:17):
It was during too, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah.

Walter (17:18):
And after we ended up and it kind of carried on to
after the photo shoot.
And we ended up like choppingit up for like two hours, I feel
.
And it's like it was weirdbecause, as we conversed, what
you were saying didn't alignwith what you post and it really
had me confused, and so it wasjust like, immediately, it was

(17:46):
something within you that wasdrawing me to you yeah which was
weird for me, because it wasnot like the outward appearance
and it's not that you wereunattractive, you, you're a
beautiful woman and I know thatit was just.
It was something deeper and wedidn't want to stop talking, but
we had to go yeah so I went andtold my friends about how I had

(18:10):
this conversation with her andhow like amazing of a
conversation it was and howchill she was and all these
things.
And she went and told herfriends the same thing this is
true.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
We both didn't have like a natural attraction to
each other like I thought he washandsome, but I wasn't like
extremely attracted to him, likein a way where I was like, oh,
like I gotta make him myboyfriend or anything like that.
But it was just like when westarted talking I was like, oh,

(18:43):
I like the way he thinks, I likewe could, we, we vibed, we
vibed on the photo shoot, eventhough he said he just wanted to
do a photo shoot.

Walter (18:55):
We gonna keep it what it is, but I think was it that day
or was it the next day or someother time.
At some point I reached out toyou to try to set up a date.

Shanea (19:06):
Mm-hmm.

Walter (19:07):
And we had our first date at the coffee shop Mm-hmm,
which was also a breakfast spot.
Yes, because I was like I wastalking to my homeboy.
He's like, make sure you don'tspend a lot of money.
You know, you take hersomewhere.
There's like a chill spot thatyou ain't spending a lot of

(19:31):
money.
You get to know her.
And that's what I did and wetalked more and we vibed out.
But she had gotten her feelingsbecause I was having a
conversation with this guy about, uh, volkswagen gtis?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
yes, because he's into cars and so I don't even
know how you guys got onto thisbut you saw my car oh yeah,
that's right.
Your car wasn't parked in frontof the yeah yeah, the coffee
shop and you guys talked forlike 45 minutes we did, and his,
his girlfriend or wife wasthere too, and she understood it

(19:57):
I had.
No, I've never experiencedanything like that before ever.
I'm like, okay, like it wasintriguing, because it was like,
okay, I'm glad he has likehobbies, like he has something
that he he's really passionateabout, and I'm like that's cool,
that's different.
But I was like, okay, I'm justsitting here because I don't
know anything about cars I haveno idea what they're talking

(20:19):
about.

Walter (20:21):
It was like foreign language to me she was in her
feelings I wasn't in my feelingsbut, I thought it was a little
rude, rude, yes and it was justme being me because it's like
when I started getting thetalking about.
Even to this day, she knowsthis yeah, now it doesn't bother
me because but even to this day, if someone stops and we would

(20:43):
start talking cars, especiallyif it's a Volkswagen GTI, if
it's an Audi or something ofthat nature or a BMW.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
We can pull up next to a car and he'll roll the
window down.
Hey dude, that's nice.
I like that.

Walter (20:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's the car community and they'll sit and
talk and I'm just like yeah, andshe just be trying to get out
of the way.

Walter (21:04):
I like cars.
I don't love, because a lot ofpeople say love, I don't worship
them, but I admire differenttype of vehicles.
But we did that.
I thought it was cool.
I didn't want the date to end,definitely wanted to get to know
her more.
No more.

(21:27):
I was reaching out to her, Iwas texting her, calling her.
I would call her and she wouldliterally wait two days to
respond.
I would text her and she wouldtext me the next day and I
didn't understand it because I'mlike I'm thinking that we
vibing, we good, we chilling,and it just was not happening.
It took me so much to getanother date out of you.
You started, you keptpostponing the date and I think

(21:51):
the second date we went to theaquarium, which I thought was
like super dope.
I was trying to think ofsomething that everybody take,
everybody out to eat.
I'm like aquarium would be cool, it's fun, it it's chill.
Took her out, paid for aparking, all that stuff.
She was playing hard to gety'all.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
I was.

Walter (22:13):
She was playing hard to get.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I was.

Walter (22:16):
And so we went through.
I think something happened.
We had a conversation before Iwent to the Netherlands.

Shanea (22:26):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
And we stopped did we stop talking?

Walter (22:35):
yeah, because you, uh, we listen, my wife was in a
different space at the time, andso she she had the audacity to
tell me that I was at the bottomof a list.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Did I tell you that before you went to the
Netherlands?

Walter (22:57):
Yeah.

Shanea (22:58):
Oh.

Walter (22:59):
She had a whole roster is what she told me.
And I'm like I bet I don't wantto be on the roster then
Because I ain't have no roster.
It was just her I was talkingto Because, granted, like prior
to her, I wasn't really choppingit up with anyone.
I had gotten out of a reallycrazy relationship and so I was
just cool being by myself.
You know, I was at the houseplaying the game.

(23:19):
I would take myself out todinner.
This is something, men, you know, you gotta get, you gotta be
comfortable, just kind of beingin your own skin and and and not
being so hard-pressed.
But um, she told me that itreally hurt me.
I ain't gonna lie, I was, I wasbroken.
I was talking to my friendslike why she do me like this and
I don't get it, I ain't wannabe out here anyway.
I don't even understand it, butit was just like something that

(23:42):
was just tugging at me to whereI could not let this situation
go.
So I think we went a few weekswithout talking, right maybe so
and I saw you, did you text me?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I think we went a few weeks without talking right,
maybe.

Walter (23:55):
So I saw you, did you text me?
I think you text me.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I think I text you.

Walter (24:03):
Yeah, then we started kind of talking, but not really.
I went to the Netherlands.
I talked to you a little bitbefore I went to the Netherlands
, bought you a cake for yourbirthday Nothing but cake.
Yeah, you, you did which wasreally nice and and we was just
kind of off and on talking butreally not dating, and I came

(24:24):
back and we hit it off I thinkin september I don't know what
took place and we went for astrong two months, possibly
three, right.

Shanea (24:37):
When.

Walter (24:38):
From like September to like November.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we was pretty pretty strong.

Walter (24:44):
And she was just how was you baby?

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Excuse me, I wasn't even talking to anybody.
I wasn't even talking toanybody.
I did say that he was on myroster just because I had just
come out of a relationship, adivorce, and I was not trying to

(25:14):
play myself.
I was not trying to play myself.
I was not trying to play myself.
I also we both didn't want tobe in a relationship and I think
you were more open to the idea,but I just was not.

Walter (25:29):
Because she was like oh, you just really like me a lot,
because I never understood, Idid not want to be with anyone
and I did not want to be withanyone and I did not.
It was weird because I was notattracted to her.
It was something inside her andI would always tell her you're
beautiful, but that's not whatcatches my attention.
And it weirded me out.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
And it didn't really make sense to me either.

Walter (25:51):
Yeah, but it was like it was something within her that I
was attracted to or that caughtmy attention, like I wasn't
trying to have you know, this isgrown people channel.
I wasn't trying to have sexwith her or anything like that I
just enjoyed her company and Ireally genuinely just wanted to
get to know her more and gain agreater understanding of who she
was.
Um, and I didn't understand itbecause, like, I was just always

(26:13):
used to just going afterphysical and just that being it,
and so it was different withher.
I remember having conversationswith friends and them being
like oh you know, you justreally you love her, and I'm
like that ain't it?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
that ain't it that was it, but no, it was cool
because, um, like when we wouldget together.
When I came over to your house,I had never acted like that
before with anybody.

Walter (26:42):
Yo, the first time Shania came to my house.
It was like what did you do?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
with my sofa.
It was like.

Walter (26:51):
She jumped on my sofa like she was five years old.
I was like what's wrong withthis girl, what's wrong with her
?
We was playing Mortal Kombat,right, we was playing Mortal
Kombat and she was jumping allover me like she was a kid cause
she was losing.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I wasn't losing, I hadn't played in a long time but
you were losing.

Walter (27:14):
She was getting her behind, whipped in one time.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
No, no, no, no no.

Walter (27:18):
She was getting destroyed.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
But like I could, like I came, I went over there,
not expecting anything,obviously, but I was like we
literally lived in the sameapartment complex.
So I'm like I just walked over,Walked over to his apartment
and I.
So I'm like I just walked over,walked over to his apartment
and I wasn't expecting anything.
We was just going to play thegame and I was just being myself

(27:43):
.
I wasn't trying to be anyonedifferent, I wasn't trying to
make myself look a certain typeof way or make you think of me
any certain type of way.
I was literally just likemyself.

Walter (27:56):
She was.
She was very comfortable, I wasextremely comfortable for some
odd reason Very comfortableJumping on the sofa, laughing as
she's jumping on the sofa.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I had never been to his house before.

Walter (28:08):
Like first time, Never First time.
I don't even jump on my sofaand she was jumping on it.
I'm like yo, what is going onhere?
And then I'm like going andgetting groceries for her and
running errands and all thatstuff and I felt so weirded out.
I'm like why am I doing thisfor this girl?
This don't make sense, I don'twant to do this.

(28:28):
Why am I doing this?
What's?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
wrong with me?
I didn't even ask, I didn't askyou to get me groceries or
anything like that, but youoffered and I would be like no,
no, no, you would just insistand I'm like all right, cool.

Walter (28:43):
Cooked for her.
She said my food didn't have noseasoning.
Y'all Hurt my little feelings,Did you not say that?

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, I didn't.
No, you had seasoning, weretalking about our other recipes
and I asked you what you put inyour food and you didn't give me
enough seasoning and I askedyou, I asked you who gave you
that recipe and I knew it wasyour co-workers from work and it
wasn't black listen, listen tomy white sisters and brothers

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out there.

Walter (29:15):
We love y'all too.
Okay, but you're going to leavemy food alone.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
He didn't have no Cajun seasoning.
I did put Cajun seasoning.
I put Cajun seasoning ineverything.

Walter (29:25):
I didn't know Tony's.
But I would use Cajun, I woulduse garlic, I would use paprika,
I would use all that stuff.
Sea salt, paprika, I would useall that stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Sea salt and pepper Right.

Walter (29:38):
It was some other stuff I would use.

Shanea (29:39):
No, it's not, but we getting off subject.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
So we went through some stuff.
Yeah, I don't know, you kind ofnot going into a lot of detail.

Walter (29:50):
I mean, what do you mean ?
I'm not going into details, howmuch details you want me to go
into.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
No, I don't even know where to go.
To be honest with you.

Walter (29:57):
We had some conversations with my wife.
Just let me have it a few times.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Honestly, you guys, I had came out of this
relationship, out of thismarriage that I was in.
I got a divorce and I had datedand it felt like after I got
out of that divorce, I datedsomeone I thought I was kind of
going to be in a relationshipwith and that didn't work out.

(30:23):
And then I dated some morepeople and I didn't want to be
in a relationship anymore and Ijust didn't want to be put in a
box.
I felt like he was trying toput me in a box and I felt like
I didn't have control and Ithink, coming out of that
relationship that I was in,where I was controlled and

(30:45):
abused, that now that I was outof it, I felt like I had to be
the one to take control over mylife, and so I didn't want that
same thing.
I didn't want to feel like Ididn't have control over what
was going to happen to me.

Walter (31:03):
Which is why this is why it's important Both us as men
and women we have to be mindfulthat we are healed whole, like
completely We've done episodeson that because if you don't,
what happens is you startviewing everybody through that
lens and you, and especiallylike if you're walking in
unforgiveness the Bible toucheson this you will literally start

(31:25):
.
That's why the Bible tells usto forgive.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
It's not for the other person, it's for you,
because what we notice in lifeis that you become the very
thing that you hate so much yeahyou become the very person that
you hate so much yeah, and Icouldn't really receive anything
that he was given to me, eventhough they were everything that
I wanted or thought I wanted.

(31:50):
But, as you, you would buy methings, you would talk to me
nicely which I loved, and Ialways told you that but like
just the things you would do.
I couldn't really accept itbecause it wasn't something that
was done for me before and Iwas doing everything for myself

(32:11):
and so I don't know it was.
I couldn't even like receive it.

Walter (32:16):
So we went through a series of conversations that was
really challenging, and then,on my end of course, and it is
not scriptural, you know, it'snot first Corinthians 13, but on
my end I was doing things forher, but I was also expecting
things in return, and so that'salso not of God, because the
Bible and what God dealt with meon as I went through my

(32:39):
conversion, is loving in spiteof, and that was a challenge,
because the world would teachyou that as I love, you should
reciprocate that love.

Shanea (32:50):
You should give me what I'm giving to you and I should
give you what I'm giving.

Walter (32:53):
From a godly perspective .
You should, but that shouldn'tbe the reason that you're doing
it right and that to getsomething back exactly, yeah,
and that did uh delves into,like first corinthians 13 um
everyone read uh it's great tohave an understanding of what
love is.
But we had a series ofconversations, um, that was
really like a turning point inour situation, because you never

(33:19):
wanted to admit that we was ina relationship.

Shanea (33:21):
No.

Walter (33:22):
Even though when I was like, okay, we don't have to
call this quits, because my wifekept trying to make it appear
as if she was entertaining otherpeople when she wasn't.
Even though one time you didwhat?

Shanea (33:32):
do you mean?

Walter (33:33):
When you went out the day before we went to the
aquarium it was just one datestill, I was like bro if I never
talked to him before after thatI felt some type of way, y'all,
I was like, bro, I'm spendingmy hard-earned money out here in
these streets, men know and,and that's what we doing.
But she had created this basedon conversations she had with

(33:54):
her friends.
She created this um thing whereit was like she had me thinking
that she was entertaining otherpeople.
So it created an insecurity inme, a heavy insecurity, so I was
always wondering what she'sdoing, who she's doing it with.
Am I the only one that she'stalking to?
And I never dealt with thatbefore.

(34:14):
And, um, it also dealt withjust some things that was
unresolved as well because ofrejection and all of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Just things that I dealt with as a kid yeah, which
is crazy because, like he waslike I can't do this, like you
talking to multiple people, andI just, I, just I can't talk to
you no more.
And I just started crying.

Walter (34:35):
She was crying uncontrollably.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I was crying.
I didn't even understand why Iwas crying and I'm like why are
you crying?

Walter (34:40):
You telling me you're talking to other people and you
want to change.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Because I really wasn't and I was like, oh my
gosh, he thinks that I'm likeout here in these streets.

Walter (34:53):
I did think she was out there in these streets.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
But I'm like out here in these streets.
I did think she was out therein the streets.
But I'm like, but I wasn't andI don't know.
It was just I didn't have verygood advice.
I don't know I hadn't dated in.

Shanea (35:07):
The people she was taking advice from was
apparently 14, 15 years.

Walter (35:12):
Them boys was apparently for the streets Prior to 2020.
But my friends at the time wastelling me that it sounded like
because she kept telling me shedidn't want to be boxed in.
And I had decent friends, I hadsome good friends.
Some of them was ugh, but oneof the things that the theme was
she had came out of acontrolling relationship is what

(35:32):
it sounded like.
My female friends would tell methat that she dealt with
someone that was verycontrolling and that she needed
to be healed.
She needed to be healed, but wehad a series of conversations
that the people don't even knowabout and it was really taxing
on your boy.
Some stuff that was said.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
And you decided you didn't want to be with me.
No more Mm-hmm, because Ididn't want to be in a
relationship.

Walter (36:01):
What you told me, you said to me, and I think it's
important because it sets thestage of where we were when
things ended you told me thatyou would never marry me.
Mm-hmm, you told me you wouldnever marry me.
I did say that, and so I wasbeing mean though oh, she was
being, I was being mean, because, like I didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Like I wanted to be friends and he didn't want to be
friends and I didn't want to bein a relationship, and so there
was this we was butting headswe was buttoned heads because
I'm like I don't need no more.

Walter (36:36):
I told you, I don't need no more female friends.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I got female friends we were buttoned heads
consistently and like then Iwould be like no, I don't want
to, you know, I don't want to dothis anymore, I just want to be
friends.
And then he would like, okay,well, we could be friends.
And then we wouldn't be friendsbecause he would want to be my
boyfriend and I'm like, no, Idon't want to be.

Walter (36:58):
She wanted the benefits of me being anything.
No, no, no no, Because youenjoyed the stuff that took
place.
That was more than friends.
Don't even pretend she enjoyedall the benefits of having a
boyfriend without having thetitle.
She wanted to put your boy in asituation and I'm like I don't
get down like that.

Shanea (37:17):
It's too expensive in these streets to be doing
situations.

Walter (37:20):
Let's call it what it is , but it was, I think, to set
the stage.
We were in a space where therewas no coming back.
There was no.
She did everything except blockme.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I could not block this man for the life of me.
And I remember us having aconversation I couldn't block
him for nothing, and that's whyit was like I would say things
that would be really mean sothat he would leave me alone,
but then he wouldn't, and so Iwould say even more mean things
so he would leave me alone, buthonestly, I would have just
blocked him, but I could not.

Walter (37:55):
And we had a conversation in the car and she
was like I don't understand, Ican't let you go.
And I'm like I don't understand, I can't let you go either, and
I don't want to do this becauseyou are saying stuff to me
that's very mean.
I don't like how you treat me,I don't like what's going on.
And, granted, it's because ofwhat she had came from and what
she had dealt with.
I didn't understand it at thetime, but that's what it was,

(38:20):
and so we was just at this oddswhen we came to an end in
November, and I remember havingconversations with my friends
like I don't know how to getpast this.
I'm struggling.
They're like why I'm like Idon't know.
It's just I feel like I'm stillattached to her and I don't get
it.
I don't get it.
I was talking to everybodyabout it.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
It was weird, there was no reason why we should have
felt the way we felt about eachother.
Nah, because we hadn't knowneach other that long.
Yeah, we hadn't known eachother that long.

Walter (38:52):
But it was.
It was like, it was like a partof me.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
It should have been easier for me to just block you
and like just X you out.

Walter (38:57):
And it should have been easier for me to just go out in
the streets and just run wild.
I couldn't.
Boys was trying to get me out.
My homegirl was trying to getme out, all this stuff like.

(39:23):
And I and on November 26,november 26, I believe it was
November 26, 2022, is when I waslaying in my bed in that
apartment and it was like nineo'clock at night and I heard the
voice of God audibly and I hadjust got off the phone with my
friends and everything and hesaid you asked everybody about
what their thoughts was withyour relationship.
When are you going to ask me?
And I knew it was God and Iasked him what are your thoughts

(39:45):
?
And he was like you were lovingher the way.
You were loving her because Icalled you to love her that way.
Your problem was you weresupposed to love her through me.
I'm like what?
That don't make sense.
What do you mean?
I was supposed to love herthrough you.
What do you mean?
I'm supposed to love her thatway?
You see how she treated me.
Like what are you talking about?

(40:10):
You were supposed to love herthrough me.
I called you to love her thatway.
And he started like I startedhaving these series of
encounters with god and it wascrazy because I think I talked
to you about the fact that I wasnot getting any sleep the last
time, the last time we spokebefore it just kind of went left
and I told you I was notgetting any sleep and I wasn't.
I was being like I could notrest.
Like I could not rest and it'sbecause my sister, uh, she was

(40:34):
praying for me, my sister, inthe face, she was praying for me
.
She told me later on she waspraying that god would remove my
sleep because god had herpraying for me.
Um, because I contemplated, um,trying to rekindle things with
my ex because I miss my child,and God was telling her pray

(41:01):
because that was the enemytrying to get me back into
something and get me caught up,and so it was just.
God took me through that journeyfrom there and I began to have
dreams.
He reminded me of the dream Ihad in earlier in the year.
He reminded me of the dream Ihad in um, earlier in the year.
He reminded me of theconversation I had.
He reminded me of dreams I hadyears prior to even meeting you,
and told me that those dreamswere dreams I was given to you,

(41:24):
about her.
Those dreams was about her.
I didn't even remember thedreams I had.
Uh, I knew, like even in theprevious relationship I was in,
I was not supposed to be thereand God just began to talk to me
and he didn't immediately tellme you were my wife.
He just kind of made he wouldtalk about you're supposed to

(41:45):
love her this way.
This is how you're supposed todo this.
You're supposed to pour intoher.
You were doing those things,but you was not loving her
unconditionally.
You was loving herconditionally.
You're supposed to love herthrough me, consistently saying
all this stuff and my home girlsent me a bishop td jake sermon
and I listened to the sermon andthat's when he finally told me

(42:07):
that you were my wife and I waslike no she's not, I don't want
her to be my wife.
She treated me like trash withnothing to do with this woman,
and he took me through it.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
He kept moving your head down His mom, because I'm
hot, you hot.

Walter (42:27):
And so God took me through the process yo and it's
like I'm paraphrasing becausewe're looking at time but I
started travailing.
I didn't even know whattravailing was.
Never did it a day in my life.
It exists everyone.
The Father had me travailingfor my wife.

(42:48):
He had me travailing for me.
He had me travailing for yoursalvation, and it was like when
you travail, you're birthingsomething forth.
So it's like birthing pains.
So it's like what women gothrough when they have
childbirth but it's a spiritualperspective and he had me
praying day in, day out.
I was battling.
I would be having to go intothe car and pray.

(43:10):
I didn't understand it.
He would tell me pray for you,know, pray for you.
Walk into the car, pray for you.
Coming back from the car, Iwould have dreams about the
stuff that you were doing.
I would have dreams about whyyou were dealing with the stuff
that you was dealing with.
There was nothing my wife wasdoing that I didn't already know
about.
Then he started having me prayfor you, pray for you, and I

(43:33):
think, um, the travailing ended.
It started in december, thebeginning of december, and I
believe it ended in like januarythe beginning of january, but I
tried to uh reach out to youyeah and I, I left a christmas
present for you.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Uh, after christmas, and I was doing, when I left the
Christmas present for you, Idid that out of my own, yeah,
you asked me if you can get me apresent and I told you no and
I'm like I don't want nothing todo with him, no more.
Because if I talk to him andhe's going to think that I want
to be with him, and then we'regoing to start talking, and I

(44:12):
don't want that to happen.
I just don't want no contact.
So I want no be with him andthen we're going to start
talking.
I don't want that to happen, Ijust don't want no contact.
So I want no contact.
He would text me, he would callme, he would ignore me.
I would ignore him.

Walter (44:21):
Then God would have me do random things like send her
money, do this, do that, and Iwould feel like a fool telling
me to say certain things to her.
I would feel crazy and I wouldbe battling with the father.
I don't want to do this.
No, she's going to look at melike I'm crazy.
She don't like me, she don'tappreciate me.
I'm not doing it.
He even had me apologize to her,which it was hard to do.

(44:44):
I did not want to apologizebecause I feel like she wronged
me.
Why I'm apologizing to her?
She need to apologize to metook me through the process, so
we went through it.
We were going back and forth.
She would get mad because Godwould tell me to say something
to her.
I would say it to her.
She wouldn't want to hear itand he kept reminding me that my

(45:07):
ministry started with you andthere were instances where I,
you know, struggled withpossibly just letting it go and
being with someone else or notbeing with anyone at all, and he
would give me dreams just kindof showcasing that if you do
this, what I would take youthrough is not going to be good.
So we went through that for somemonths of me praying for you,

(45:33):
praying for you, praying for you, and God saying that you were
my wife and he always referredto you as my wife.
He never referred to you asjust Shanae or whatever.
Your wife, your wife, If I didsomething wrong.
Your wife, your wife, your wife, your wife.
Because we know when God seesus, he sees us incomplete.
He sees us in a complete state.
And this is everyone where alot of the revelations that we

(45:57):
speak on now came from.
It was during that period,because god?
Um took me through a period oflike a consecration, without me
even realizing it.
He removed my desire to havesex because me and my wife was
sexually active prior.
Uh, he removed.
I had exes reaching.
I had an ex or exes reachingout to me, um trying to link up.

(46:17):
God would tell me before itwould happen.
He would show me what theirheart desire was.
Even with friends, he wouldshow me what their heart desire
was, and so I had no desire forsex.
The music I was listening to,he removed that.
The shows and TV I was watching, he shifted that everything and
just was taking me through theprocess.

Shanea (46:42):
What was going?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
on with you as I was going through the process.
Babe, I don't really rememberwhat was going on with me.
I mean, I had started to.
You know, I was into I wouldhave considered myself a
spiritualist and so, like doingyoga, I was in ancestral worship

(47:06):
.
I had just kind of stoppeddoing those things.
I didn't really know why, Ijust kind of just stopped doing
it, and obviously it was becausemy husband was praying for me,
I didn't know.
And so life kind of likemellowed out a little bit, but I

(47:31):
was really just focused on work.
I was working and then I wouldget these text messages from you
talking about how you gave yourlife to Christ and God is
speaking to you, and he wouldsend me these long messages
about what God has been sayingto him about me and that he is

(47:56):
my husband.
And I was like no, you're not.
You're not my husband.
You're never going to be myhusband.
You're not going to be myhusband.
I don't want you to be myhusband.

Walter (48:10):
And I would feel so stupid everyone because I would
sit on these things and I wouldhave God continually coming at
me until I would send themessage to her.
I did not want to send themessages to her, I didn't.
I'm like God.
Can you have someone else tellher, can you have someone else
do this?
And he reminded me that myministry started with her and so
I had to be obedient.
If I wasn't obedient, he wouldnot let me rest.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
And I could not block him.
I still couldn't block him.
I still couldn't block youafter you telling me that I
thought this man was crazy.
I thought he was a plum fool.
I thought you were crazy.
I thought you was a stalker.
I thought you was.

Walter (48:46):
She was telling people I was stalking her and everything
y'all.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
He would text me because I just didn't understand
why you couldn't leave me alone.

Walter (48:54):
I wanted to.
I didn't understand it either,because I would literally have
dreams and it would literally be.
She could not do anythingwithout God already showing me
what she was doing.
There was nothing that she wasdoing, that I did not know
Nothing, because I told youabout how I wasn't dreaming
before, but after my encounterwith God, I was having seven to

(49:15):
eight dreams or so per night,and I remember every single one
of them because God will wake meup after every dream.
I was being awakened every hourand hour, and so it was really
intense.
I would have visions, I wouldhave encounters and all of those
different things.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Right.
So encounters like you wouldsee me and then in a vision, and
then it would happen in reallife, Like I would be leaving my
car or going somewhere, theexact same way that God showed
it to you, and at that time,like I said, I was just working,
I would go to my spa, I woulddo the things that I normally do

(49:54):
.
I would go to my spa, I woulddo the things that I normally do
.
I occasionally, I think I hadlike there was like three
instances where I parked my carand I was going to go to your
house and I'm like no, I'm notgoing to go.
And there was moments when Iwas going to call you and I'm
like no, I'm not going to callthem and God would be telling me

(50:14):
that she's going to reach out.

Walter (50:15):
and it was those instances that she did not.
I was like, I'm like no, I'mnot going to call him, and God
would be telling me that she'sgoing to reach out, and it was
those instances that she did not.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
I was like, I felt like I wanted to go to your
house and I'm like, nope, I'mnot going to go.
I'm going to give him back allhis stuff because I had borrowed
some things.

Walter (50:28):
She still wear my clothes.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I borrowed some clothes, some hoodies.
You know, girls, I borrow ahoodie and a coat and a jacket
To the married couples out here.

Walter (50:38):
do y'all struggle with the fact that, to the men, to my
fellas, tell me, do youstruggle with the fact that you
no longer have anything?
My wife will wear all my stuff.
She wear my socks, she wear myshirt.

Shanea (50:50):
She wear my sweaters.

Walter (50:52):
She wear my hats, I will go out and I don't even realize
she has it on until we are atchurch or something we're out to
dinner and I'm like that's notit bitch.
You ain't got no hat you got onmy hat.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Anyway.
So I put all his stuff in a bagand I left it at his front door
.
I don't even think I rang thedoorbell or nothing.

Shanea (51:15):
I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I just sat it in front of your door hoping that
nobody stole it.

Walter (51:20):
You telling me it wasn't you, but I saw you, it was not
me.
I saw you, I seencha.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
It wasn't me.
You didn't see me.

Walter (51:29):
I seencha.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
You didn't.

Walter (51:36):
But we agree to disagree .
So it was somebody else in thecomplex that looked like we went
, but there was no reason forher to be up there.
We went through all of thisstuff and, um, it came.
I had a dream, right well, Idon't know what happened.
I came, um, something tookplace when I saw you, because I
was trying to you know, I wouldbe told to reach out to you know
, take her out.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
You guys, I would leave my, I would look, I would
look outside the window, outsidethe blinds to make sure that
you wasn't outside so that Icould go get in my car so that
you wouldn't see me.
And there were plenty of timeswhere I've seen you going to
your car and coming from yourcar and I'm about to leave my

(52:17):
house and I would just sit thereLike I had my cousin and the
baby's in the car and I didn'tcome outside.
My cousin's like what's goingon?
I'm like I can't go outsideBecause I was waiting for you to
leave and I was not checkingfor this woman at all.

Walter (52:33):
I wanted nothing to do with her.
I didn't want to deal with it.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I didn't even want you to see me.

Walter (52:43):
I didn't want to deal with it.
I'm fighting with God over this.
I'm battling.
I don't want to deal with this.
I feel like a fool.
I feel like an idiot.
This don't make sense.
Why can't I be with someoneelse?
Why can't I do this withsomeone else?
Why can't I just have you andme?
I could just be me and you.
God, I'm Gucci with that, allthis stuff, I mean it was crazy
and the enemy was fightingbecause I had, like people
trying to come at me.

(53:03):
God would tell me people wasgoing to try to approach and
they would approach you theexact way, look, in the exact
same way that they looked in adream.
I'm telling you it was crazy,but it was something that she
needed from me and it wassomething I needed from her.
Going through this, this, this,this thing because we're
pressed for time and we'llprobably finish out next week

(53:26):
but going through this thingreally, um put me into a
situation of realizing that mebeing connected to her unlocked
a lot of stuff, because in mymarriage that I was in before, I
never dreamed, I never hadvisions, I never encountered God
.
I went to church, yet I did notknow God.

Shanea (53:46):
Yeah.

Walter (53:48):
It wasn't until me and her came together that things
shifted.

Shanea (53:53):
Yeah.

Walter (53:54):
I actually heard the audible voice of god and I and
it had been a wow, since I heardthe audible voice of god yeah,
I was in.
It had been a while since Iliterally heard god speak to me.
I'm talking like years, likewhen I was probably in my early
20s yeah and just kind of maybeeven night, like when I heard

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god speaking, I encountered likethe supernatural god.
So that was something that wasinteresting to me and there were
a, a slew of revelations thatgod provided with regards to
marriages and relationships andjust really showcasing that I
did things wrong.
But interestingly,interestingly, what was so
unique with us?

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We finally met.
I don't know why she decided tostart back talking to me, but
she did, and I believe God wasdealing with her too, because he
told me he was Well, that'sbecause I was talking to two
people and they were like, well,maybe he is Shania, maybe he is
your husband, maybe you shouldtalk to him.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Maybe, maybe he is Shania, maybe he is your husband
, maybe you should, like youknow, talk to him.
Maybe he really is a prophet,maybe he really is a man of God.
Because of what he's saying,people, please don't be reaching
out to the emails or anything.

Walter (55:08):
I'm just Walter, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Sorry, I'm sorry, babe, I'll put you out there
like that, it's fine.
Don't put you out there likethat, it's fine, don't put me
out there.
Okay, man, I'm God, thank you.
They were like yeah, well,maybe he really is, like, maybe
he's really genuine, maybeeverything that he's saying is
true and I'm like okay, well,maybe so, maybe so.
But the reason why I could notblock you, I just could not not

(55:36):
talk to you, there was just likethere was like a sweet spot in
me for you that I could not notX you out completely.

Walter (55:50):
And I think we went on a date and the date went horrible
.
The date was horrible.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Oh, you had asked me to go on a date with you.

Walter (56:04):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
And I finally agreed because I said no multiple times
and I was like, all right,maybe he did change, I don't
know, We'll see, and oh yeah,and just you know it was crazy
all right.

Walter (56:16):
Maybe he did change, I don't know, we'll see.
And oh yeah, and just you knowit was crazy y'all Like God had
me sending her flowers.
He would have me so into herlife money and I would hate it.
I'm like this don't make senseand he would consistently tell
me that she's good ground.
She's good ground to sow into.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Isn't that crazy?
Because I would just get thesecash out just randomly from him
and they'd be significantamounts of money and I would.

Walter (56:45):
I did not want to do.
Oh my God, I could buy me someshoes.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I could do this for myself.
Why is he sending this to me?
I'm not even talking to him.
I really thought he was crazy.
I was like I don't even want totalk to him, I don't want him
to know that I even received itanything, or I don't want him to
know nothing because I thinkhe's nuts.

Walter (57:10):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Because anybody who does not respond to you you
should not be trying to pursueand I just could not, for the
life of me, understand why hewas trying to pursue me.
But I also still didn'tunderstand because I wasn't.
I wasn't able to receive at allum, and so it was weird to me.

(57:33):
So, like him wanting to talk tome all the time, it was just
like not normal for me and Ijust could not.
I just couldn't get down withthe get down.

Walter (57:42):
And the thing is that, while there was two things that
was taking place, it was veryuncomfortable for me, but it was
.
God was breaking me.
He was breaking somethinginside me.
Because there was a pride insideme, and so he was breaking
something inside me becausethere was a pride inside me, and
so he was breaking somethinginside me that he was also using

(58:02):
me, and this is what heexplained to me.
He was using me to show shaniahow much he loved her.
So he would have me text hercertain things that came from
him and say tell her that I saidthis about her because she
couldn't hear God.
So he was like tell her, I saidthis about her, tell her I said
that, tell her I said this, orsay this to her, or say that to

(58:25):
her, or say this, or tell herabout this, or tell her this is
what I've called her to Stuffthat I did not need.
There's no way I could haveknown.
There was things that wasalready in her that she knew,
that I knew nothing about, thatGod had revealed to me about her
, and so it was just like that'swhat was going on and it was

(58:48):
crazy.
She never at the time admittedthat those things were true, but
then she finally admittedafterwards when we came back
together yeah, but I kind of Ididn't really read the text
messages.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
I read them but I was just so, uh, I don't know, I
just off-putting.
I was very off-putting and I Ididn't want to accept any of the
text messages and I I was like,whatever God you serve, I don't
, even, I don't, I don't.
It's not the same God I'mserving.

Walter (59:23):
And it was not.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
So I said whatever God is telling you that we are
supposed to be together, youneed to stop listening to him,
because I'm not getting the samething you're getting.

Walter (59:35):
And let me explain something to you all.
My wife don't know.
There was a couple of times shealmost got caught up.
There was a couple of times shealmost got caught up and I
remember because I felt theanger of God and I had to pray
for her.
You remember when you wasreading the book where um it

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talked about I think rebecca isher name how she was praying for
the young lady because she wasbeing very disrespectful to god
oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
And the angel of the lord came to uh, take her life.

Walter (01:00:12):
My wife don't understand that there was a couple of
times that I had to literallylie before, like I had to humble
myself and pray for her becausegod was like you, not like
because he got on me one timebut and I'm telling you and
people like this is going tomess with people religion but it
was one time because god had meworking through some hurt for

(01:00:34):
her.
He would have me access hurt ofhers within the spirit realm
and I got tired of doing it andI didn't want to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, what's that scripture?
Because I read it in a book.

Walter (01:00:46):
You talking about sharing your burdens, or
whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Yeah, yeah, we're supposed to share each other's
burden.

Walter (01:00:50):
You can find it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Laying down our lives for one another.

Walter (01:00:56):
I was complaining and God had me carry your hurt and
it was just like a like it was aweight on my chest that was
crushing my chest and he had medrive someplace and he told me
you was going to carry thisuntil you get home.
And when you get home, fromwhere I told you to drive, you

(01:01:17):
can ask me to lift the burdenand I'll lift it.
And I was like God, I don'tknow if I can do this.
I felt like my chest was goingto cave in and he was like you
were complaining about me havingyou do this for her, when she's
been carrying this around herwhole life.
And I got home and I asked Godto lift it and I asked God to

(01:01:38):
forgive me and he finally liftedthe burden and when I tell you
everyone, it shifted my view andthings, because it was so
excruciatingly painful to whereI thought I was going to die.
And he was like you'recomplaining about the stuff I
have you doing for her and thisis what she's carrying.

(01:01:59):
She's been carrying this in herentire life and so I didn't
understand the weight of ituntil we got back together and I
started, because it's differentwhen you hear God saying she's
been through this and I won'tspeak details because that's for
you to speak, but she's beenthrough this and this has
happened and that's happened,and this happened and that
happened as I'm praying for her,and he would tell me now I have

(01:02:21):
you praying for this, I haveyou accessing this memory, I
have you accessing that memory,I have you accessing this.
But what took place to her whenshe was five years old or that,
and all of these differentthings, and so it was a, it was
a, it was, it was a like.
It shifted my view and it brokeme, and so, no matter what my

(01:02:53):
wife would say to me, there wasa resolve in me that I would, no
matter how long it took, Iwould love her in spite of, so
she could do whatever she wantedto do.
She could treat me however shewanted to treat me.
I would love her in spite of,so she could do whatever she
wanted to do.
She could treat me however shewanted to treat me.
I would love her in spite ofand I think we should share it
there was an incident.
My wife was with someone else.
I had a dream about it.

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I did not want to see it.
I pulled myself out of thedream.
I had the dream about it in didnot want to see it.
I pulled myself out of the dream.
I had to dream about it indecember actually, and I'm like
no, god showed it to me and, um,it was hard because you know,
he took me, was it josea?
I think he took me to j, notcalling you a prostitute, but

(01:03:40):
just saying that I've stillcalled you to love her, no
matter what.
And it broke me because I waspissed, because I'm like you
won't let me do nothing.
I can't be with nobody.
I can't do nothing with nobodyIf I do anything you take me

(01:04:01):
through the ringer.
Why can she do what she want todo when I can't?
And God first of all.
One of the things he told me isto whom much is given, so much
more is required.
And he also told me that youare held accountable for what
you know just as much as she isheld accountable for what she
knows.
But it starts with you, becauseI've called you to love her as

(01:04:25):
what Christ loves the church.
So it was a real Like weweren't together, though.
No, we weren't together, reallike we weren't together, though
.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
no, we weren't together but in god's eyes we
were spiritually.

Walter (01:04:48):
Spiritually we were, we were together, together we were,
and so it was challenging thestuff that we went through, but
it came to an end because youhad a situation going on at your
house.
I had a dream and in the dreamshe was having a conversation
with her aunt and she wastalking about how her daughter
at the time now our child thatwe share was bit by a snake at

(01:05:11):
my house.
And I was having this dream andI'm like I don't got no snake
at my house, she ain't even atmy house.
It was like a snake bit her athis house.
I don't know what he got goingon or what's taking place, but
the snake bit her, bit her athis house and I woke up.
And when I woke up, I hadsomething like a demon that was

(01:05:33):
hovering over my neck and Iimmediately began to pray.
The interesting thing is thatat this time that this was
happening happening, it was thesame time when she was going
through the situation that shewas going through at her house
where, uh, our youngest wasbeing attacked by a snake.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
In the spirit realm, so, as it was happening in the
physical at my house, you wereseeing it at your house.

Walter (01:06:01):
And I was actually also under attack at my house and I
was praying and I'm like I don'tknow what this woman is in and
fast forward.
You had this stuff going on.
You called me over to pray andshe's like, oh, oh, he came over
to pray.
I prayed first because mysister and brother was like you

(01:06:22):
ain't but they don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
But they don't know because I haven't told them
anything yet.
Okay, so on on the other, on on, I'm starting a channel and
then I will let them know.

Walter (01:06:37):
So you don't want me to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
No, you could talk about it, but what I'm saying is
they don't know because Ihaven't told them anything yet.
Okay.
Because I haven't put the videoout.

Walter (01:06:46):
We'll go into part two next week.

Shanea (01:06:50):
Yeah.

Walter (01:06:51):
I think we got.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
About how, when we got back together, what that
looked like, yeah, or whatinitiated me to finally accept
you.

Walter (01:07:04):
And spoiler alert everyone.
One of the things that God toldme I had to do was fall back
and let him deal with her toshow her that I, I was who she
called me, or who he called meto be.
I was who she he called her tobe with.
Um, that's one of the thingsthat he dealt with me on and he,

(01:07:27):
I had to do that and he did.
He told her I didn't even know.
He told her.
She didn't even tell meanything.
He just randomly like oh okaywhat do you mean?
you just, he just told you.
You ain't told me nothing.
What do you mean when he toldyou, when he revealed to you
that I was your husband?

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
no, I knew you was my husband, like before.
You even told me that I wasyour wife, but I didn't want to
accept it, just like you didn'twant to accept that you love me.

Walter (01:07:58):
We ain't even going to get on that Cause.
You were like you love me.
Though Just say it Just.
I ain't saying nothing.
I ain't saying nothing, Notsaying that, Not saying I love
you.

Shanea (01:08:07):
No.

Walter (01:08:08):
Cause it become real, then no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Right no.

Walter (01:08:13):
So, listen, we will continue this next week.
Hopefully, this has been ablessing.
I think one of the things Iwould say is and I'll end it
here and I'll let my wife saywhatever she wants to say One of
the things I learned within oursituation is it's so important
that you just kind of do whatGod calls you to do.
It's so important that you justkind of do what God calls you

(01:08:36):
to do, Because we went throughso much stuff Even when we came
together initially.
We went through so much hellbecause neither one of us was
where God called us to be Yeteven in the midst of that, god
did bring us together, to eachother.

(01:08:57):
He allowed us to come togetherto each other, but we messed it
up and he had to separate us andfix the things that we screwed
up.
However, ladies, he startedwith me first.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Mm-hmm.
So the reason why we broke up,it was because he needed to be
in a place where he couldminister.

Shanea (01:09:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Start his ministry.
God called him to ministry andhis ministry starts with your
ministry starts at home.
Men's ministry starts withtheir wives and their children
and their family, and if theycan't steward their family at
home, you can't steward a church.

Walter (01:09:40):
Unless God has called you to celibacy, and there are
those that God has called to belike Christ.
But, for those that God is not.
That's where your ministrystarts, is with your family.
He would always tell me thatand because it had been a while
since I was in church, I didn'tunderstand it.
He would always say my ministrystarts with you, your ministry
starts with her, your ministrystarts with her.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
And it's biblical.
It's in the Bible.
I don't remember what scriptureit is.

Walter (01:10:02):
We'll have it for you next week.
But he did say I think it wasPaul that was speaking about
that, right, or was it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
No, I think it was.
It's not Paul.

Walter (01:10:18):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
I don't believe it was Paul.
Okay, but I could be wrong.

Walter (01:10:23):
I just don't remember.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
But we can find it, we're finding it.

Walter (01:10:29):
Have it next week.
But this is really.
There's so many things that wecould touch on that we it's just
it'd be a lot, it'd be hoursupon hours of things that we
experienced, encounters.
I had things God revealed.
People ask how you know.
There was a plethora of waysthat God spoke to me that

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consistently remind me that shewas my wife, including through
other people, confirming that itwas the case.
I'll say one specific situationwith Beverly, where I was
praying for you in the car and Iwas weary and I was tired.
Listen, everyone, when you aregoing through that process like
that, if God has you go througha process like that, it's a lot,

(01:11:13):
it's taxing, and I got tired.
I'm like I don't want to prayfor her no more.
And beverly was like I'll pray.
And I was like okay, cool, andbeverly started praying and god
told her stop.
I told him to pray, not you.
And she was like, well, uh,because she was even questioning

(01:11:34):
it.
And she was like, well, bro, Ican't pray for her it.
And she was like, well, bro, Ican't pray for her.
God just told me not to pray.
He told you to pray for her.
So you got to pray for her.
I said see, y'all don't believeme.
I told you, I told you thisdon't make no sense.

Shanea (01:11:47):
What am I doing?
I feel crazy.

Walter (01:11:52):
What's going on.
I feel crazy Got what's goingon.
I feel crazy Got me praying forher day in, day out, all the
time Non-stop.

Shanea (01:12:01):
I can't go nowhere, I can't do nothing, I can't watch
TV, I can't sleep, I can't eat,I can't do nothing.

Walter (01:12:05):
I'm just praying.
What is she doing?
What is she doing?
I wish she would stop.
I want my life back.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I want my life back.
I want my life back.
I was in bondage.
I was in bondage.
I had no clue.

Walter (01:12:20):
I had no clue, I was just tired.
But yeah, so that's what it was.
How do we end this?
We talked about a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Yeah, I guess we just pick up where we left off in
the next episode.
If you guys have any questionsor if we needed to elaborate on
something else, maybe we couldpick it up in the next episode.

Walter (01:12:45):
Yeah, it's a lot.
So I don't know it's a summaryWell, listen, we thank you all
for listening.
This is different, and this wasa lot, because I don't like to
put people in our business.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
No and we don't, I don't.
I don't like to put people inour business.
No and we don't, I don't, Idon't yeah.

Walter (01:12:58):
So we appreciate you all .

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
But I know this may possibly help someone else in
their journey.

Walter (01:13:06):
Prayerfully.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Prayerfully.

Walter (01:13:07):
If God wants to share this for somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Yeah so.

Walter (01:13:11):
So I still don't know what this episode is going to be
named, but we'll see when weput it out.
Baby, you want to end this out?

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Thank you, guys, for listening.
We appreciate you for watching.
Please subscribe and commentand share this with others.
That's it.

Walter (01:13:35):
We'll see you all next week.
Be blessed.

Shanea (01:13:37):
All right, bye-bye.

Walter (01:13:38):
Bye.