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May 1, 2025 35 mins

In this conversation, Shanti interviews Leila Sawan (she/her), a trans Arab refugee and activist. Despite being highly qualified, Leila was repeatedly passed over for roles early in her career due to her intersectionality - leading her to take exploitative jobs simply to survive. She reveals the struggles trans individuals face in some countries to obtain medical resources needed to transition. She also  highlights the insensitivity many trans employees face in the workplace. Determined to help others avoid the same hardships, Leila immerses in grassroots activism and perseveres in her career. She earns a role as Executive Director of the Trans-IT Foundation, which empowers the trans community through certifications, scholarships and job opportunities in the tech sector. Leila reminds us that now - more than ever - is an important time to come together, “not only as a queer community…not only as a trans community…as just humans.” 


Leila Sawan is the Executive Director of the Trans-IT Foundation, which is dedicated to empowering trans and nonbinary individuals across Latin America through a certification program that enables participants to unlock new career opportunities and achieve greater professional growth. Leila also has a bachelor's degree in software engineering and a background researching artificial intelligence. 

Shanti Joy Gold is a professional coach, 30-year corporate warrior and member of the LGBTQIA+ community. She understands the unique challenges faced by those who feel like outsiders and, as an executive coach, guides underrepresented people to confidently thrive in their careers by being fully themselves.

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Other stories shared by Leila and Shanti at the campfire: 

  • Hearing Leila’s advice for those feeling hopeless in their careers, encouraging them to navigate immediate challenges while continuing to keep their dreams in sight.
  • Learning about Leila’s and her cousin’s road trip in Turkey to secure hormones from pharmacies in the hopes of distributing them for free to others who couldn’t access them.
  • Exploring how the current anti-DEI, anti-Trans sentiments are leading to lack of responsiveness from previously-engaged corporate business partners. 
  • Discussing how Leila accepting an admin role eventually leads to her promotion to Executive Director, showing that sometimes small career steps lead to big opportunities.  

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