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I'm curious about the depressionthat you experienced and the
root of that depression and how those traumas have been dealt
with or or managed or healed or worked through the assistance of
utilizing Amanita. And how much that how much to
you that that's the mushroom andhow much is it the mushroom
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allowing you to like navigate through these?
I mean, I guess it's really, it's really all you, right?
Like the mushroom opens the doorand allows us to to recognize
and move through the healing process.
I'm curious a little bit more about the healing process and
like what that looked like utilizing the mushroom and how
the interplay between utilizing the mushroom and and working
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through the issues manifested. Yeah, so I, I guess really what
it would, what it comes down to is the fact that so far previous
in my life, I was being guided by fear.
I'm I'm very sensitive person and in that means that most of
society is very fearful. But if the news is very fearful,
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social media makes you feel thatway.
Comparing myself to others, fearing that I wasn't going to
make enough money, fearing that I wasn't going to graduate,
fairing, all these things that that was literally the only way
that I was motivating myself at the point at that time was was
through fear. And at that point I was like,
that's that's how everyone moves.
You know, if the news says this is how you're supposed to react
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is via fear, only do things thatare going to get you away from
this fear. You know, protect yourself in
some ways, right? You're just protecting yourself
just a safety bubble. That's what you're doing.
You're just trying to get enoughmoney so that you're safe by by
retirement age or you're trying to get a degree so that you're
safe because now you have a degree.
And So what aimed to do was it broke me out of that, that
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cycle, that that fear cycle thatI was the only way to make
decisions. And at that point too, I had no
semblance of religion in my life.
One of my earliest memories was being dragged by my mom.
I was holding on to the railing of my bed and my mom was trying
to drag me in to go to church because she was like, no, you're
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going to go to church, this is what you're going to do.
And I hated it so much. It wasn't necessarily the
teachings. It was just that they were
telling me what to believe. And I'd always, from the early
age, believed that I was going to figure it out myself.
Whatever I needed to figure out about the universe, I was going
to figure it out on my own, my own path.
I wasn't going to learn it from somebody else.
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And so one of the things that did as well was not only was I
not able to, was I now able to make decisions not from fear,
but from my own, you know, intuition.
But it opened up this world of magic synchronicity, that there
was more to life than what I wasalready seen.
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And in some ways I had already touched into that a bit with
psychedelics, you know, everything is 1 and there's more
to it. But I had really not experienced
the, like, physicality of all that, the physicality of the
numbers, synchronicities of my, my, my birth time coming up
constantly or someone mentioningsomething directly after.
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I thought about it like so, so much so in my face that I was
like, there's there's no way that our thoughts are
disconnected from this universe anymore or that.
Yeah, that that was huge for me.I mean, it was a, it was the
spiritual awakening that I'd hadonly via this mushroom and many
people go about it in their own life path, but I had my
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spiritual awakening specificallywith Amanita showing me that
this was all this was all interconnected and that my life
had meaning. I mean, I if you think of your
life as only a bunch of atoms and it's all random and this
planet is the only planet that'sin existence and it's just like,
oh, you're just one of the livesthat happened and you just got
to live your life and there's noreal meaning to it.
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I mean, that's how I really believed it.
And then to go into saying, no, you have a purpose, that your
soul came here for a reason and that you have a reason to help
people. And everything that happened in
your life, every obstacle you face, every hardship that you
had, those all have this perfectlittle golden thread tying it
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together to the reason why you're here right now.
And so it makes you have a different perspective on
everything. So no longer are you looking at
the past as being just like, youknow, guilt or pain, trauma.
Now you can say, oh, those happened for a reason.
And now I can be here. Now I accept what I have now and
move forward. Those are huge things for
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somebody who had never, never had any of that in their life.