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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whatever is support Ward Jones Juiam hanging out with my
man Andrew Ward. We threw Hall of Famers to bring
y'all a new show called a Hall of Game.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A show where we discuss boxing, sports, life.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And entertainment from RV. How much the neck you get,
Me and Roy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Don't always agree.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The one thing you will get is a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
What the Game.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I want to welcome in my co host, Hall of Famer,
nine time world champion for a division world champ.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
See.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't like getting all the accolades, man when it
comes to ROYD Jones, because we just go and go
and go and go. This is one of the baddest
man that ever laced up a pair of gloves. I
want to welcome in my co host for the Hall
of Game, Royd Jones Jr.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Thank you, my brother, and you're pretty bad yourself. So
it's two of us, you know what I mean. So yeah,
but thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm not gonna argue with you on that. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We coming up before we get into this box, and
I'm excited about the show. I'm excited about the guests
we're gonna have today. Stephen Boy Follting, one of my
brothers in the game. Steven is a two time world champion.
He's the current featherweight WBC world champion. That wasn't enough,
so he wanted to go pick a fight with a
bigger guy now and on Shaki Foster at one hundred
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and thirty pounds and they're going to be fighting in
the co main event October twenty fifth, uh a pay
per view Amazon Prime card and it's just it's a
big fight. It's a great card for boxing fans, and
I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But I want to get into uh, just how was
your weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I know you an avid sports fan, and we're
gonna start talking more non boxing takes and non boxing
sports as we keep going, But what did you How
much LFL did you watch this weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I watched quite a bit of it, man, and I
was living mad at myself because I didn't tell my son.
My son loved to be at football games, right I
seen and at a certain point as that almost every
home team lost, Right I knew, and I knew. I
knew the Bills were the only undefeated team, but you
were playing at home. So I'm gonna tell my Son.
If you want a smart bet, go bet against the Bills,
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because every home team lost a day. And when it
happens like that, it's just a thing that goes on,
you know what I mean. Like at one point yesterday
every team that was losing out of six the first
six games, four to six teams were only had three
points at halftime, you know what I mean? Just certain
things when it happened, it just happened that way, you
feel me. So I got that feeling right, and I said, man,
the Bill's gonna lose night because they undefeated and woke
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up this morning. That's what that happened.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You from Florida, So why you don't root for no
Florida team? You're Jacksonville Miami. What was going on with that?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well for a while. First of all, New Orleans is
closer to me than my in state teams are you
know that? I mean jackson closest is five hours away.
The air new franchise Atlanta is only four hours away.
So at Lana and New Orleans are close to me
the end of my home state teams. However, when I
when Derrick Brooks was at Tampa Bay, I did root
for Derrick Brooks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers because Dereck's from Penzacola,
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went to the same high school together, so we have
a very good friendship. We played basketball together, we did
a lot of things together. Still go to his golf
classics every year, so I always rooted for the Bucks
when he was with the Buccaneers at bird Well. At
twelve years old, my godmother turned me too a Pittsburgh
Steelers fan, so I was a Stealers fan overall for
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the most part. My favorite player for the longest time
was My favorite two players for the longest time before
I got to be a Steeler was Danny White and
Tony dor Set. So for a little while I did
like the Cowboys. Only reason was because Danny White was
the quarterback and he also was the punter, and nobody
else had a quarterback that could do anything like that.
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He was the quarterback and the punter, you understand me.
And that's why I love people. I love people that
were that could diversit, diversify what they were doing. He
was the only guy in the lead that was the
quarterback that also could do something else. So he was
the quarterback and he was the punner, and that was
that was like a brilliant thing to me. Never seen
it before and never seen it since.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Got a relationship with you know, Mike Tomlin in a
in a Steeler organization.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You're going and spoken to the team.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You got to steal as him and in your office
somewhere over there, so I think you really see it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I see it right there. Yeah, you see it.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Had that situation where Mike Tomlin come about. Man, I
really respect him. Never met him, but I really respect
Mike Tomlin and how he gets down.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And Mike Thomas a really cool guy. When I went
I used to go to Pittsburgh, California, pet to train
after fly in Pittsburgh to go there, and uh, because
I was still a steal A fan, they invited me
to come, uh speak to the players a couple of times,
and meeting Mike was like so awesome because Mike we
also used to do some pro boxing shows that promoted
up there, and Mike used to always want to come
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because he's a boxing fan. When I find he was
a boxing fan, it just went together.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's like if you're a boxing fan and I'm one
of the goats, it's like it's just an automatic match,
you know, what I mean. So and the fact that
I love the Stealers at the time, you know what
I mean. So, I was like really big on it,
and he was a really really good guy steal us.
And I still try to talk to him as often
as I can. And you know, Mike, Mike's gonna be
a lifetime friend.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Man.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I want to meet Mike one time. Man, I want
to meet him. I great respect what he does and
how he goes about his craft. I can I can
make that happen.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He is.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So you know what I love to study is I
like to watch the games. I'm i'm I watch all sports,
play multiple sports coming up. But I like to see,
you know, I'm really I'm a I'm a I'm a
I'm a mental guy. Like I love to see, you know,
how teams are, mession, how they dealing with media questions,
how they flowing, what type of flow they got throughout
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the season. And I've been very interested in the defending
world champions, the Philadelphia Eagles. And it's interesting because they
got that they they are the defending world champions and
they're winning right now.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I believe they're four on one.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But when you look at the media coverage over the
last two or three weeks, you would think that they
were one and four because the media, they're trying to
give a j Brown star receiver, divide Tay Smith Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
They're trying to soft serve them.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, these questions that can cause some issues and
some discord because many feel like Jalen Hurts and he's
even set himself, has not really been on point the
way he normally is. He's you know, he's had some
air and throws, he's had.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Some he's had some things going this season.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I don't know how much you follow what's going on
with the Philadelphia Eagles, but these are defending champions. Like
I said, they're four and one, but there's still some
internal issues that are that are spilling.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Over into the public form. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, the problem with that is that when you're defending champion,
everybody is got real. He got you under the microscope,
you feel me. Since they're under the microscope, they're trying
to find anything they can to pick them apart with
so and if they can turn them against one another,
it's even better because their goal now is to create
turmoill so that the team can't come make and repeat
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and of course they don't want to see him repeat,
you know what I mean, So they try to do
anything that they can to try to break it apart.
But what I try to tell people that sometimes you
gotta remember Jalen Hursts has been nothing but solid since
he's been in the league. He's not one of those
quarterbacks who suffer from the sophomore slump. So maybe now
after all this time, he's finally he's finally relaxed because
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he finally got him a super Bowl. He's going through
the sophomore slump. Not that he's a sophomore, but we're
all gonna go through ups and downs, understand me. So
he may be hitting that sophomore slump now because he
had approved to everybody Alabama or Oklahoma or everybody ever
picked him up or got rid of him. He had
approved to everybody that he was a great quarterback, you
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understand mean, So he couldn't let his hair down till
he want a super Bowl. Now that he's won a
super Bowl, he can relax and be normal again. Well,
what do most normal good quarterbacks do? They go through
the sophomore slump. He couldn't afford too, you understand me.
But now I think it's happening to him.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's always interesting to me how the team deals with.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And you know, we've been dealing with media since we've
been kids. I do think certain media members they try
to stir a mess, like like the Their job is
to antagonize you and try to ask questions and hope
that you're not smart enough to pick up on it,
hoping that you answer it the wrong way so they
can get a headline and they can get clicks in
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this day and age, clicks and views. But it's interesting
because you see aj Brown, you see the frustration he like,
what did you think about the overthrow? You know, when
he overthrew you on that play where you could have scored.
As a competitor, he's trying to he wants to say
one thing, but he's also a teammate and this is
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supposed to be a brother of mine, so I'm not
trying to airy him out. You got Devontae Smith trying
to do the same thing. And Jalen Hurts, who's also
a Jordan guy by the way, right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
He's a Jordan guy.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
He's always been a professional. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I love watching him because to your point. He's never
gotten a credit as a splash guy, as a guy
that can do everything. But man, he's always showed up.
He's won in big moments, and he's always you know,
overcome the doubt and the skeptics and the criticism and
the hater He's always done that, and he's done that
by just work. And I remember it was a moment,
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I don't. I think it was when he played for
Oklahoma and the team had just won. He went right
back in the weight room that night and God is lifting,
God is work in because he felt like he needed
to correct some things and just you know, be better.
So I've always respected him, but I see him trying
to navigate the questions as well. And it's come with
the territory. That's why they get paid the big bucks.
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But it's just always interesting to me with the media.
That's why I love platforms like this, because I believe
that you can get the answers you want without trying
to backdoor an athlete and hope that they're not smart
enough to answer the question the right way. I'm a
firm believer in what you see is what you get.
I've been on both sides, so if I want to
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ask a question. I'm gonna ask the question, but I'm
gonna ask it in a way as respectfully as I can.
And if you tell me no comment, or if you
tell me I can't answer that, or if you tell
me our next question, I want to respect that because
I've been on the other side, and what happens is now,
guys they like talking to you. Now, Guys trust you
when they come on your platform, or if their PR
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team says, hey, Roy and Dre want to get you
on Hall of Game, they don't really have to think
twice because they know it's not going to be any
games played.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't know why a lot of media members don't
take that approach.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
For a lot of them, they want to take the
cheap jab and hopes that they can get that headline.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But what you got to realize, if you're.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
A media member, YouTube guy, whoever you are, the fighter, the.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Athlete, They're not gonna want to deal with you no more.
After that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
The problem is Dre. They doing it for attention and
to get clicks. They have never been in a place
that we have been. They have never been out there
with the whole world was cheering for them, so they
try to get as many likes and as many people
to notice and respect them as they can. This is
their grandma shot. They got to try to get as
much as grammar as they can. So they mean throwing
you under the bus to get fame. You're going under
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the bucks. It's just that simple. So you have to
know which media guys are that way and which ones
truly respect their job and do it with dignity. You
understand me. There's some guys that do it with dignity.
There are other guys that this is their chance if
you could become famous or to get as many people
to listen and pay attention to them as possible. And
what's the best thing to make people pay attention controversy,
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So as you can kick up controversy, you are the boss.
When it comes to the media.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, I respect the ones that don't take that road.
I respect the ones that care more about the actual
art of journalism and covering an athlete, the team, a
fighter than they do trying to blow up. I respect it.
And there's a lot of guys like that, and I
think they get they get short of lost in the shuffle.
When we start talking about media members who don't do
it right. So rather you're on the boxing side or
just the sports side, man, I want to shout out
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those that do it the right way. And you know
who you are. Fans know who you are, the athletes
know who you are. So shout out to you on that.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I'm looking a little bit different today. I normally try
to come in here clean shaven.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I like to look nice. I like to look clean shaven.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But today, man, you got training camp Drake.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Today you got you got.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I look a little rough today, Roy, I look a
little rough to you got training camp, Drake. When I
was in training camp, I wasn't worried about how I
was looking. In fact, I wanted that rough look. I
wanted to let you know that when you see me,
oh drean camp, he attitude a little different, faced, a
little different, he dressed, he.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
All, he wearing his warm ups. He ain't wearing nothing nice.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I got that look today, Roy, And I remember I
remember uh my sixth pro fight.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You fought Tarboro for the third.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Time, and.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I don't know what you had did.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I don't know if you had cut off media early
in camp or something happened. You wasn't talking to the media.
So everybody just the week of the fight in Tampa, Florida,
everybody's waiting on Roy to show up to the press conference.
I don't know if they thought I don't know. And
it's another thing too, I don't know why people always thought.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
You wasn't gonna show up. What did you creating the media?
You're not gonna show up.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
To the fight and show up to the But what
was that I deal with him? I wanted to do
when I got rid of and I made sure y'all
understood and knew that you understand me. I was the
person that people were coming to see, not him, not
nobody else. They would come and see Roy Jones. So
Roy Jones did just what you wanted to do, because
everybody was on the Roy clock, right.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So you you so you came in. I remember I
had done You know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
On the under cars my sixth Pro five far Aul
Due named Glenna Laplan. I think I got a first
round knockout that night. But this this, this is the
press conference, few days before the fight.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Everybody just waiting. We're Roy, and where Roy at?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You come in the press conference looking like a man
that's been in the woods for like four months, you
hadn't never seen your face look like that. You man,
you had all of this and some and you came
up in there and you said some along the lines,
and y'all thought I wouldn't gonna show up.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, now I'm here.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You said two three words. You was out the bell?
What was you lean up to that? To that third talk?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
But just even even just in general, like the way.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
You look, your appearance and stuff changed.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Man, you're in a different mindset in training camp.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, And training camp is like you out in the
woods being a survival. You know, you're trying to figure
out how you got to figure out how to survive,
how to do this. You're not gonna die and you're
gonna kill, so you got to figure out how to
set up and how to make your kill. You feel me,
And you don't do that by smelling good looking, good looking,
ordering all that animals smell all that you understanding mean.
So you can't be out to trying to smell good
and wear a flashy chear. You go in the water,
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shark gonna bite you, understand me. So it's like you
got to get all that away because if you're gonna
get something, if you're gonna really really be a hunter,
and you after you can't come in there looking good
and smit it good. You gotta come in there like
you belong in that environment. And that's what training camp
should be about. So when it's sparting point to see me,
you know, I ain't if it be none of these
a day, look at me.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
It's not me.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I'm not shaved. I am not out here playing with y'all.
I might have to hunt. So, hey, you mad right
when you come in there, because I'm looking for you.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah, I feel it. I was in the same boat,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So I just figured I would just give y'all an
explanation of why I came on here looking the way
I'm looking to day. I looked in the mirror, I said,
should I shave? I said, now, I ain't gonna shave
to day. I'm just I'm gonna in church. They say,
come as you are. I came as I am today,
and y'all just gonna have to deal with y'all might
see a few little gray hairs in there too.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Man. It just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
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Man, I want to welcome to the Hall of Game man.
One of my brothers in the gang, Steven cool Boy
Fulton mass Bro. You got a big fight coming up.
You're moving up in wait and you're the co main
event for the PBC card October twenty fifth, Amazon Prime
Video pay per view at the MGM Grant Arena. Butter,
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how you feel in the camp and how's the body feeling?
How's a mind feeling at this point?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I feel very good, you know, taking them things one
day at the time as always.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, we just got done talking about how it in
Shade today and you know, I got you got training
camp right today. We got we got training camp Foulton
today and you.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Look like, yeah, I see you you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
In that mold before we start off real quick man.
So one of my producers, he was actually at our
interview that we did earlier in the year, and he
asked me, he said, Man, are we getting Fulton and
Scooter on the show today? I said, I said, that's
the same person. He said, Oh, I just he got
so many names I didn't know. So yeah, I'm trying.
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I said, Bro, you're acting like unk right now. Man,
So I'm trying to I'm trying to get him up
to speak. And then he's trying to figure out too,
like where the cool boy come in? I said, cool
boy is you know the neighborhood name? If you know
him like that, you know him like that? No, Scooter
is the neighborhood now. If you know him like that,
I say, cool boy, that's the boxing name, right, and
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then you know Stephen Folkton is his full name. That's
not That's not a hard concept to understand. Yeah, yeah,
did I get that right?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You got it right?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Correct? Man? I want to I want to jump into it. Man.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You have a you know, another big fight. You've been
in big fights, You've had big moments, but you kind
of like a daredevil to me because you you can't.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You kind of like you like be looking for.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The biggest, baddest opportunities and you say, I want that one.
So you have a great fight against Figueroa where you
bounce back, you let the people know that I'm here,
I'm still championship Uh, I'm a still I'm still championship caliber.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Your performance, the way you bid down and thought that
went viral, the uniform went viral, is just a great
night for you.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And you didn't rest on that though.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
So you said, I want to go up another weight
class and face Oshaki Foster, a champion that has defended
his title, A very strong guy.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Tough, durable.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Did he defend it?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He's defended the year, he's defended his title in the past. Yeah,
since he's become a two times, since he's become a
two time world champion, I'm not sure, but he's the
first time around.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
He definitely defended the title.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But no, yeah, it's this This is a guy that
you know, he's not an easy out. Uh, and and
you wanted to fight him. Tell me how you started
to set your sights on him?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And why? Oh, Shaki the belt?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He got the belts. It's no heart feelings, you know
what I'm saying. He got the belt. That's about I
want and I'm uh, I'm big.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
For my weight class already, so it's like, I want
to be comfortable, and he did. He did mention me
a couple of times in the past, and I was
at one twenty two and I had tweeted something like, uh,
one thirty light, like that division light to me, and
he said he felt some type of way about it.
But the thing is, you weren't even champion, and you
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wasn't a champion. It's like, that's how long I've been
champing for you weren't even champing, so you feel that way.
Nobody called your name because you weren't even champion. So
I was like, once he said that, then it was like,
I want to go to one thirty and I knew
I could fight for the ABC.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Let me get that. That's a nice fight, let me
get that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told
Terrence Crawford. Even though you're moving up in weight, tell
me if I'm wrong, you still gotta lose weight to
get to one thirty. So your move you're not you're
moving up a weight class. You're not moving up in
weight necessarily. God right, you get kind of big in
between fights. I ain't trying to expose yo, yo, what
you're doing in beto. But you you kind of get stout,
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my boy, you got it. You look different in between
fights versus when you fighting.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Do I got that right?
Speaker 7 (20:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You enjoy yourself a little bit of your body like.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
A lot of bit, A lot of it, a lot
of it, a lot to eat.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
For Really, can you say at least give me a
neighborhood or.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Where you where you like to live in between fights?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I like to live just like yo.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You walk around way.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, you ain't gotta give an exact number.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
What sixties?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So you're a middleway.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah you put time middleway and yeah yeah see see
it's back to here. And I like this because he's
old school, you know what I'm saying me. This is
one of the old school throw back guys. I love
when I see people like him because he understand the
whole game of boxing, and he wants whatever building can
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grab because the belt symbolizes what you're the man of
the weight class. You understand me. So I love this
and the fact that he's willing to come down to
wherever you got to come down to. I used to
tell people back in the day, my homeboy, the first
one ever beat consta Zoo was Vince Phillips. Then Phillips
was fighting at one. Ben Fields used to walk around
at one eighty five this saying what somebody told me,
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this is what I saw myself, And every time he
would make one for me. So I applaud you for
being an old school I applaud you for always want
the belt you can get your hands on too.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Saw.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
That's my era. That's my era. I'm an old head.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now, there it is.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I grew up in the right era.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
There it is, Steph.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
He got some different stuff going on because he from
He from Philly. Man, they still got a lot of
that in them, even the present day fighters. The Philly
thing is probably one of the last cities to me
that got that old school. We ain't gonna really change
type of vibe in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
No, yeah, correct, correct, We just adjusting.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Adapt Yeah, bros, how's camp been for this fight? Foster
is a guy that seems physically strong. He seems to
hit hard. I don't think he had a long amateur,
you know background. He seems to be a guy that
kind of came came in a game through the back door,
got it out the mud.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But he's a respectable guy.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You ain't got to, you know, give me the game playing,
game playing, but what what are some things that you
think are gonna exploit how he fights and some things
you think are gonna work in this fight?
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I think my defense is going to play a major
factor in it. My defense, my i Q things like
that he's a good fighter. Can't take that. He's a champion,
so of course he's a good fighter. But and camp
is just you know, campus camp. We were executing one
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in every aspect, offensively, defensively, endurance, strength.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Like you name it, I got it.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
These guys like to you know, say I'm small, I'm little,
and it'sad third we'll see gonna fight.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So do you take any motivation anything from Terrence Crawford's
performance that he just that he just thought as that
does that do anything for you?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
That was that was a good fight and shout out
to Serience Crawford. I didn't.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I didn't really take any motivation from it, because like,
I find my motivation for myself within myself.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So it's like I don't look at other's success.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And things of that and be like, you know, that
just motivated me anymore? A lot of things don't motivate
me anymore. How I used to like as a kid, Yeah,
that would have motivated me. But now as I took
my first loss and watch how I had to come
back and watch how everybody turned their back on me,
that it made me not not pay attention to what
other people are doing anymore or what other people are saying.
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So I find my motivation within myself at this point.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Man, you lead me to my next question.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You know, you start getting some scars in the game,
it starts to change you a little bit. And I'm
not talking about battle scars from being in the ring.
I'm talking about life scars. I'm talking about taking that
first loss and seeing people change within your circle from
the media. You know, it makes you grow up, and
it kind of that's that love hate thing with the game.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I guess a lot that I love about it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm fighting fights, I'm getting the Kings ransom for it.
It's a blessing, you know. I'm doing things that that
I envisioned doing. But then you got this other dark
side of the game right here too. Given all of that,
and given where you are in your career, what is
the motivation? I know you talked about the belt, but
is there any other things that are motivating Scooter to
still go to camp and still fight big fights.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
The motivation comes in with me just being me, Like
I like, that's my motivation. When I get to just
do what I want.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
That's my motivation.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Being able to do what I want whenever I want,
how I want, And that's how that's how I train
in my camps how I want, whenever I want. But
I listened to my coaches, but I don't take things
too serious anymore. And that's my motivation right there for me.
So the motivation I need is just, you know, walk
in there, get the job done. We've been doing this
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for years, since I was twelve. I'm thirty one, so
it's like I've been pro yesterday me eleven years I've
been professional.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So it's like you a vet. Yeah, it's like you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
You just walk in there and get it done and
leave and go relax with the family, go play Call
of Duty or something. That's my motivation, like being able
to just do what I want.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
So you home for this U in Philly. You normally
do Camper Philly.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
I'm in Dannie's gym right now. That's why it's supposed
to right there, he's in there training right now.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Do you stay Do you stay at your househouse or
do you get like you rent a house or something
in camp? I stay at my house and you able
to do that to destruct kids, wife that that don't
do nothing for you.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I live every day the same.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Now.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
I told you a lot that loss changed me. It's
like I didn't care. It's like when you look at it,
like you go to you, you go away for camps
for you, you missed your kids, you you missed your
your family, and and then you still come up short
and be like.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
I can live my every day Yeah, I can live
my every day life.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
And I feel like since I've been doing that, I've
been I've been in a happy place and I've been
fighting at a happy pace. M So it's like none
of that confeze me anymore. So it's like I just
live my everyday life.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You feel like you wan't be the bigger fighter coming
to the ring that night. You think he's gonna be
big than you. You gonna be the bigger part, bigger.
That's what I thought. Yeah, I'm that's what I think.
It And you move it up and wait, ain't gonna
be the bigger part.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I'm actually I think I'm actually taller than him.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Yeah, I'm seeing him face to face like two times.
He's not that tall, okay, And I feel like you
see that I'm a big I'm a big guy. But
you know, he said something like, I'm just a fat boy.
Fat all that I'm still still bigger.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Than you all of what you want.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I like being a fat boy. I love my dad.
But I love my dad, but.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I said, you're gonna be moving when you walk away
from this bad They're gonna put the champions here. Stephen
getting round looking like him over.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Here, coming right like this.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
For the press conpaence, y'all have some good exchanges in
terms of like, you know, some back and forth and
just you know, the face off. You can't tell everything
from a from a press conference, but you get a
feel of a guy. What was one of your takeaway
from him personally that you took from that press conference?
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He was in his feelings about being the A side
or the B side. Uh, I mean we all have
been there probably before. I've been there, so I know
how to maneuver around those things now. But I do
have the bigger name on the bigger draw. So I
understood it from a business point of view, but you know,
for being so he's the champion at that weight class
and I'm fighting him for his belt. He wanted to
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be the a side, which I understand, you know, but
it was just frustration. And when and when a fighter
is frustrated, they can't control the emotions, I like it.
So I took that away from it. You know, he
was a little frustrated being so on far as the
business side, and that is what made him feel like,
all right, well, I'm just gonna show him.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I'm gonna show Steven.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
I'm gonna do this at third But sometimes you just
got to be patient. You can't don't let them emotions
because that I'm gonna get emotions gonna get you fucked
up and alone in the long run. So I took
that from it. Uh yeah, I feel I took away
from him. Just want to be like a tough guy,
like play a little tough guy rule, But.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Me, I don't.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
I don't give that energy. I'm not gonna feed that.
I'm out feeding your energy.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
With that.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Because it's not gonna like I don't feed tough guy
energy unless I'm disrespected, you know what I'm saying. If
I feel disrespected that then I don't have no choice
about to be like you know what, it's like, fifteen
bathrooms in this venue. Let's go pick one, and we
ain't even gotta we ain't gotta do all this back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Right, yeah so, but simply yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I ain't about to do all this back and forth talking.
Let's just pick one of these rooms.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
But I feel like he was mainly trying to be
like the tough guy. But you know it is with this,
I mean, that's right where he comes from.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Are you feeling better being able to know at least
mentally at this point and you probably haven't made start
making your cuts yet your weight cut, but it gotta
feel good to know I'm I gotta cut four less
than I would have one at one twenty six. People
don't realize that every pound I feel like life and
death when you are a fighter trying to make that way.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
What listen, I hate it is, I hate it.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
I hate it, but them them as before, it's gonna
be like that that little breathing that little breathing room
you get like that little that little pocket you get
to breathing.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yes, that's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
That's gonna be good. Man, y'all ain't had to make
a way how many years long?
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And I'm happy about it too. I'm at you.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's why I'm laughing at you because I can see
the real, like real, recognize real. I can tell by
the way you speaking about it that you serious and
understand it. Understand mean, people have never done this before.
They wouldn't understand. That's why I started hard, because I
do not miss that at all.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I was, but I didn't have I had an out
of the two, like I was gonna talk to Dre.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
He's making way. Leave alone.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We all been do that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Man. I just had that look and they know, like
leave me alone, leave me alone. And a lot of
times to me, it was less about the food. It
was more about the hydration. Of course, Man, can I
get something to.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Drinkw on some ice ship?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Come on, bro, I'm from the country. I used to
tell me I drink a cool glass of wood right now.
That's how bad I want to.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It's crazy though my last cat I was I think
I was so hungry and thirsty I was mainly thirsty though,
to the point where I got on Instagram and I
just typed the Avion water and I was just looking
at the promotion that they had for the waters.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Just looking at how cool it looked against the screen
of the phone. I was just sitting there going, you.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Know, it's bad when you go there. It's bad like
you do, It's bad like I was.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
I was looking at pictures of food, and I was
eating my little breakfast and just imagining it was that
you you're going out through that bed. I love food,
bro lo Like I can stay away from women, my
kids and all those type of things, but food.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's my That's the hardest thing of discipline, is that food.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
To tap in with you.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Next time I'm in Philly, man, you gotta take me somewhere.
You gotta take me somewhere.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
We go to Philly next time.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
I got you for sure. I actually got a picture
with Roy too when I was when I was an amateur.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a picture with you.
We was at uh Thatt the Shepherd had it recreation center.
I think you stopped down there. Who you stopped down
there with? Yeah, I got a picture with.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Your alright, I know you can't reveal what it is.
But your last performance against figure out, Like I said,
just the way you got down, the way you fought
people writing you off. That went viral, people saying that
Stephen Folton his back. But the outfit you had on
my boy, what you cooked up with shoe Surgeon with
with the denim shorts and the timberling boxing shoes. Maybe
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I'm just getting old, but I seen them and I
knew what you did. I knew the soul was a
boxing soul. But in my head, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Wait him down.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
They look heavy, but they didn't you act, they actually
were not heavy.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I know y'all cooking up something good for this fight.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That's everyone's question. Come on, man, you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Can't do what you do your last fight, and I
think we go ask you.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Know, everybody said it. But it's gonna be a nice fit.
It's gonna be a nice fit. I promise it's gonna
be good.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
It's gonna be chill, just organic, you know, nice, nice
and organic, nothing too deep.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I love the creativity.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
You gotta.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
You have to see, I'm more than and this is
what people don't understand, Like you know, that's more than
the athlete.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
I'm more than just a boxer. I'm more than just
a boxer.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
So a lot of these guys they get on these
podcasts and they just want to talk box and box
and box and box and boxing. Me is more so,
I like, I'm more than just that. So I like
to get in the fashion. I love to get in
the food, traveling things like that.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
So I teake me scooter.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
That's like everyday lifestyle into the ring with me. How
I dress everything, how I carry myself. That's why I
was cool boy self.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I carry myself.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
I'm so cool when I carry the way I carry myself.
But I feel like I let my my style do
the talking outside the ring.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I just like to get fly and I like me
bringing my me bringing that swag into the into the ring.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
It's just organic. It's just me being me.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
You gotta be yourself, And it wasn't even me just
trying to be creative. It was just me typically like.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Just being myself. And a lot of these guys don't
do that.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
You know, they try to ride off another man's court,
tels things like that.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Just be yourself because you're thinking about it. You got
guys like tank.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
He got the knockout power and he give fly so
automatically he was gonna draw to him and has not
got power with me. I was, I don't have the
knockouts that he have, so I had to be myself
with that.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I was.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
I was, I was being a dog fighting all underfeated fighters.
So once that's slowly down, what I do. I got
fly on, brought brought the swag into the ring now,
so now I think I'm known for more than more
than just fighting underfeated fires.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
I'm known for being one of the fliers in the game.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
M hm.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
You's gotta be yourself, man, but we're gonna come in
the ring with something more fly. It's gonna be it's
gonna be nice and organic, chill, not doing too much.
But it's just me being me and from Philly.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Man, we wouldn't expect to no other way. Bro, I
appreciate you taking the time. We don't want to hold you. Man,
Get back to work, get your rest and uh man,
we're looking forward to this card Man.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
October twenty fifth. Brothers around them for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Look at my man.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Who had Danny. Yeah, I see, I see.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah, he said, he said, what's up?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Tell what's up?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Telling Telling Roy and Jake said, what's up?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Roy and Ward tell him we have to tap in
with him soon.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
We're gonna tap in with him soon.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
He got ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm gonna tell him all right, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
What Jim life man, Yes, man, Jim Life.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
They said, he had to tap in with you soon.
Ward and Roy.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Jones, what's up. Good to see y'all, Yes, sir, he said,
what I'm good?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Brother, he said, he good good, Good to.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
See you, baby all see you appreciate you man. Sure,
But that's it for our show today.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I want to thank y'all for stopping by to another
episode of the Hall of Game with me and my
co host, Roy Jones Jr.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
We're gonna keep bringing the heat. We're gonna keep bringing
the conversation. Man. I appreciate y'all. Until next time we
out
Speaker 7 (37:23):
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