Keyshawn Davis Reveals Truth On Teofimo Lopez Beef, Failed Drug Test & Olympic Heartbreak

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome back to another episode of the Art Award.
We in Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Today we at the top rank offices.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Today, I got a newly crowned champion WBO Lightweight World Champion.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's a young man who is a silver medalist.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
He's not shy, he has a lot to say, and
he's one of the most talented and gifted fighters in
the game today. If he's not a star already, he's
on his way to being one. I'm excited to have
Key shying the businessman Davis on the show to say,
what's up with what you're gonna say? Take you last, man,
I'm excited to have you, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Man. You got some new hardware. Man.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know they say when you get that that championship,
you kind of move a little bit different. People come
at you a little bit different. If thing's been different
for you since you became champ.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Fighters have been reaching out, I would say, like them
and saying, you know, things on social and stuff like that.
I've been getting more call outs, I would say, so
it definitely feel a little different than I got attention.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Right, Yes, yes, it's good.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Take me back, man, I want to start from the beginning.
Take me back to Norfolk, Virginia with you and your
brothers and your mother.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
What was life like back then? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
As a kid growing up? Honestly, life for us as
a kid was great. Honestly, we didn't really you know,
well in the home, like you know, we had struggles
and stuff like that. But fortunately, like we had like
you know, kids on our street that we grew up with.
It was like five different houses and it was like
brothers and sisters and like those five different houses. So
like on our street, we grew up as a as

(01:24):
a community, as a family. You know what I'm saying,
Our mothers knowing each other, you know what I'm saying,
So like we all going through the same struggles, you
feel me. So we didn't even look at it like struggles.
It was just life within that street. We all just
growing up and supporting each other, playing football on the
same football basketball teams. Me and my brothers was the
only ones that box within the neighborhood, you know what
I'm saying. So really we would come back with like
belts and stuff and like as kids, they like, oh snap,

(01:48):
like y'all could really box they like, you feel what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
So it was great. You feel me growing up as
a kid for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It wasn't too much issues other than, like you know,
at home stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
It's crazy when you were amateur a young fight her
because you're like, disappear for a week and your friends
won't know where you're at, and you're like, yeah, I
was at this tournament. They're like, what would you like,
don't nobody understand you're not in their life.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
It don't make no sense to you.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, what was like, how did your mother or when
did your mother introduce y'all to the sport of box
You don't hear a lot of mamas taking their kid
to the gym and signing them for boxing.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, around that time, our father wasn't there, so it
was just our mother and it was me and my brothers.
I was nine, Kelvin, our oldest brother was eleven, Key
I was seven. Yeah you're the middle right, I'm a
middle brother. Yeah, okay, And we was playing football, basketball,
you know, baseball and stuff like that. But she found
out it was a boxing gym in the same neighborhood

(02:39):
we were growing up in, like literally up the street
from us, and she asked us, did we want to box?
Where we want to, like where we want to try
it out. We're like yeah, for sure. And she took
us this next day and you know, like kids in there,
our age was sparn and we think it's real fighting,
you know, so we engaged like keep watching you feel,
I'm saying, and shoot, Like for like an hour's straight,

(03:00):
I lied to you not we just quiet and she
turned she was like, y'all want to y'all want to
sign up?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
You're like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know next day we started.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Uh you never stopped, did y'all? Like how were you
with the contact? It wasn't like all me get out
the way? Was you school with the contact early on? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Like I was playing football already, you know. So as
a running back, all I wanted to do was run
you over. I was a running back. All that's all
I want to do is run you over. So I
was never scared of contact, you know what I'm saying.
And you know fighting, I always fought my big brother naturally.
I just fought him.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So y'all was rumbling in the house.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah because of me though, Because of me though, you
know I used to do stower, but yeah, I just
always used to fight.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
So when I was in boxing. It was just natural
for real.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Night we lie, how long did it take before you
started realizing, like, y'oll, I could I could fight like I.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Could fight fight.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I could say I had like two moments in the
Amateurs for Show when the first moment it was my
first time ever fighting. I went to the ringside ring
side tournament and my first fight was at the ring
side tournament and I was division.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
I fought every day.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
He went to the finals and I lost, but I
was those my first fights ever, you know, in a
big stage like that, and I was crying like damn
there all day.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Nine years old.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I was nine years old that same year I just
started boxing, I you know, competing in that tournament. So
I just couldn't start crying for real, and it would
just hurt me. In This guy named Jeremiah Wiggins, he
was he was he was growing, He's probably like my
age at that time, and he was like he's on
remember this day. He said this, this hurts you right
here so much. He said, You're gonna be one of

(04:31):
the greatest. When he said that to me at the time,
I was I was in my head saying, no, I'm
not because I don't want to be a boxer. I
want to play football.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Even after that tournament, you still was football first.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, but I remember what he said in that moment.
But as I kept growing up, I'm like, yeah, whatever,
I'm a football player.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
What you if you think boxing didn't take off, you
think you would have would have made some noise.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You went to college with football.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
I think so for sure. Honestly, I think so.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
The only thing that would have helped me back was
because I've been boxed since elementary school. I was so small.
I was in ninth grade one hundred and eight pounds,
Like for real, dang high school. That's crazy fighting at
one o six Cause you know, in boxing you fight
at the slower, smallest weight class and be as strong
as you can. So I'm doing that since elementary school.
Now I'm in high school. You know what I'm saying.

(05:17):
So I'm cutting wait, my whole life, really, you know
what I'm saying. I never really reached my real potential weight.
So I was just so small.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Football different. You got a ball put weight on, but
I was just so behind.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
But like even in JV though, like I wasn't starting
at first, right, So it was like me and we
in practice and the day before the game, we're doing practice,
we're doing like runs drills, and I'm on the second
second office of course, right, so he gave me the ball.
I'm scoring on the first team like automatically. So the
coach like he saw he really used to be a
running back. I'm like, yeah, but I know, yeah he really,

(05:53):
So he made me a start the next the next
like the first game I was starting.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
But now I was really nice for real.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I was like, man, I ran somewhere where Parnell Whittaker,
who's also from Virginia, you know he was he spent
some time and I don't know if he was jailed
or the paying with your father. What's the story of
your father and what story did you get on why
he wasn't there?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
My story my father have a real interesting story for real.
But he really wasn't there because first he was in
the streets.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
First.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
You know, you can't really be there for your kids
when you're in the streets because you can't bring that
home naturally, you.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
So I feel like that naturally would probably made him
and my mother split. Honestly, I really didn't like never
ask my mother or my father, Like, yo, what really
made y'all break up? I never did that. I didn't
really care to do that really, you know what I'm saying.
It's over like they left when I was seven, you
know what I'm saying. So it just never it never,

(06:52):
I never. It never came across my head to ask
him or her why, but me just knowing the situation,
probably because it just didn't work out.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
He was just doing his own thing.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
But I feel like, you know, at the end of
the day, like you know, he still he's still He's
still a good person in his own ways at the
end of the day, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
And he he he, he still be there.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I can say that he's too.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Y'all have had some interactions since you as you gotten older.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I still be sometimes seeing
him here and there. He came to my fight when
I fought in Norfolk, you know what I'm saying. So
he still, you know, show his face and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Not the best relationship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't talk to him daily or nothing like that,
but you know, ain't no love loss, Yeah, and I
ain't gonna lie, I'm gonna be real with you, like
it's some real like I did used to like feel
some type of way about him because of you know,
him not being there. But Terrence, this is the one reason,
one of the reasons why I respect Terrence so much.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
He was just like, man, if you really don't.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Have like a serious, serious problem with your father, man,
you should just get it right, make it right, be
cordial with him, because you know, we all got a
time in this world, and you know once that time
is up, and you know, once his time is up,
you are going to feel like something had left from you.
You know, he just breaking it down, you know. So

(08:18):
I really took that in and I'm like you right,
I don't really have like a real real issue with
you under you not being there. No, I can't get
them years back. So some nigga move forward, you know
what I'm saying. So shouts out of turns, you know
what I'm saying, big.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's big man. Forgiveness piece is huge.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
The last one on this like, did you did did
he ever try to give an explanation?

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Because I know a lot of times man.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
With our parents, man, they just you know, stuff will
happen and you like, what happened with that? Or why
are you And it's like they either make excuse you
sometimes or they just don't just brush it to the side.
It's like, no, I need an explanation, like this was serious.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Did he ever try to give you one? Uh?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, I would say more so he would try to
give an explanation without I would say, us asking, you know,
because again like I would never bring it up, like
why this is why that?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I swear I.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Wouldn't, but he will, you know, bring up stuff because
he probably want to. All them years, he never really
had to say his side of the story or his
two cents, you know, so sometimes he did try to,
you know, put his little two cents in there. Of course,
you know what I'm saying. It ain't nothing wrong with that.
So me, I just listened and just be like, Okay,
sometimes I probably put things together.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Sometimes I don't. Sometimes I just take it for what
it is, you know, But.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I'll tell you what though, man, I don't know your
mama liked that, but she says strong, she said like
she played both of those roles very well, and she
say like.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
She don't play either Yeah, am I reading that right? Yeah?
Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
My mama is She's strong for sure, one of the
strongest women, probably the strongest woman, most likely strongest woman
ever see you know cause she I mean, my mama
ain't have it easy come from her household. Like if
you really want to go back to my like, you know,
our history, my mama and my father together starting out

(10:06):
was both in the streets like our family, my two
older sisters and my three brothers. My sisters told us this,
my older sisters cause she witness and seeing everything.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
She said when we was born, our family.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Was felt sorry for us because they just knew that
we was gonna turn.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Out and be nothing. Mm. She said that.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Because of my mother, Like and at the time what
my mother and my father was into, how they was
living in New York, you know what I'm saying, and no,
f like for real, we was literally supposed to be nothing.
Our family was telling us that and for us to
my older sister, you know, she's a news producer, news anchor.

(10:54):
She'd be on TV every day, all that type. So
I can't tell you what she do, but she's successful.
My own other SI, she's a teacher that teach the teachers.
I don't know what position that is, but she she
over successful, just got a promotion at that you know
in dB three is dB three. You know, my mother
and her five kids aren't successful, you know what I'm saying.
My two sisters they with the college, graduated all that stuff,

(11:16):
you know what I'm saying. So we definitely like turned
out crazy for real, Like for our family to say
we gonna turn out to me nice, it'd be really something.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
It's it's it's a story.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Man, y'all winning, man, y'all winning that life. Yeah, yeah,
it's inspiring to see.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Man. Let me go back to the boxing.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know, Parnell being from your area, how much did
you know about him when you started, Like how much
did y'all hear about him when you was coming.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Up coming up?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
That was like our local celebrity for real, honestly, Yeah, yeah,
that was our look. His name was ringing, I feel like,
you know, because he was the one that was still
in the community at the end of the day and
probably too much in the community, but that was just him,
you know, So like that was definitely all look celebrity.
Like when we have local boxing fights, and stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
He would come pulling like.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
All their attention is on him, you know what I'm saying.
So it was definitely something to see. That's growing up
as a kid seeing like Sweetpy out there for sure,
you know that.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Area where he got hit by that car. You know
what that's saying, Man, just got hit random.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, it's a lot of speculations.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's a lot of speculations what happened, Yeah, why he
got hit, or why he was out there, or just
what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But it's just unfortunate that it happened. You know, go
out like that, that it just happened. You know, man,
great great fighter though.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Man, right, you put your city, put your area on
the map for sure.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, for sure, like once he did. Man, Like every
time I would have a fight or people bring me up,
they always just say like, man, Sweepee had this a
sold up, like he the one that started it off
like this, And they was like, man, we happy that
I'm the one bringing it back, you know what I'm saying.
And I'm happy that one one bringing it back as well. Shoot,
and then me and my brothers at the end of
the day, you know this, they don't really understand that

(13:01):
yet in the boxing world don't. But you know, people
just keep looking at me, so you know it's really
a dB three thing, you know what I'm saying. And
Keon Davis, you know, is magnificent Olympic Trial winner, you
know what I'm saying, international experience. You know, it's gonna
take him out ten twelve fights and he gonna be
fight for a title. Kelvin Davis, you know, fifteen or

(13:23):
he Betta start contending, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
And me, you know, like we all competing on a
high level.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You know, it's three brothers and three of us we
all come from same mother and father, all that same backings,
you know, so I feel like us three definitely have
the potential taking over boxing, you know, you know starting
with our city.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Man, what is that though, cause you know it's a
lot of it's siblings in the game, or maybe if
one box and you just got family members supporting.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's like you don't always see that kind of love.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Like every time you got a camera in your face,
I hear you say dB three, dB three, I say
you like basically saying, don't forget about my brothers.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
What is that? Like? What gives you that about your family.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
My mother she raised us that way.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And while I'm saying us, my sisters and my brothers,
she raised us to state whatever whatever, no matter what,
you know what I'm saying, we always gonna come back
together and be a family, you know, So it's installed
in us.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, I love it, bro cause it's like, you know,
the position you at, you you know, you just you're
a world champion, but you just at the beginning, right,
you know, of everything, really making real money, really making your.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Mark, and it's easy even if you raise.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Like that, to start getting away from that. Like, look, man,
y'all gonna have to figure it out, but I'm finna
go over here and do this. So I thought it
was real dope when you fart at home and you
had your sister sing the national.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Anthem or cousin, no, those are my sisters.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
You had your sister sing the national anthem, like like
it felt like a family affair. Yeah, it felt like
like I'm on now, we all own so any position
I could give y'all, I'm gonna give y'all that. That's
what that felt like.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
To me.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yeah, I love it though.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's definitely the position I was trying to go with
it and hey, shouts out of TI rank for allow
me to you know, set the stage like that. You know,
it was definitely a team effort, and that uh that
was the walkout was crazy. He can't relive that movie.
That just was legendary walk out in it.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
But the walkout was crazy. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I played that back three four times because like when
I watch events and stuff like that, I'm not just like, oh,
so and so fighting, Like when I start to feel.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Something, yeah, I'm like, ooh, let me play it. Let
me see that again.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
And just just the way just everything, the band, a
local band, the way the crowd, like when the way
you start dancing, I'm like, bro, bro not losing and.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
He not losing to night. Just what you the body
language you had in the field that I had. He
ain't losing to Night.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
I don't know what that opponent coming with, but he
he ain't gonna get that up tonight, right, That's what
I felt. So take me back, man, you you you're
growing as an amateur. When did you first meet your
course Stevenson?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was fourteen years old, he was sixteen, and at
this time I was hearing about him because he was
he didn't have a coach, so he just moved to Virginia.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
And I live in Norfolk. So he was living in
Hampton and he needed a.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Gym to go to, and of course we hotest gym
in Virginia, so I hampen into the north Heast about
fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
It's across the bridge though, So he coming to a gym.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
So I'm hearing about him, like, yo, who is of
course Stevenson? Do everybody keep talking about it in my gym? Like, Yo,
he just wont the Junior Worlds. You know when you
go overseas, you fight. I'm like, he just wanted Junior
Worlds for real, Like, okay, so he should be nice.
So long story short, he get there. I see him right,
so you know he lights skinned, you know, curly hars like.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
This this d y'all talking about.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Like I was like, man, ain't no way he little up.
I'm about to beat him up? Right lost three short?
Oh you know, like he signed up with us days
go by, we training with him.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Everything cool for it? He cool for real, Like I
ain't ain't not personal, you know, I'm just talking.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm just talking trash.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Like at fourteen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
I'm just talking trash boom sparring.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
They come. I'm confident, I'm knowing. I'm about to go
in here and beat him up.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right man?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Why I cannot hit this man? Right, I cannot hit him.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
But he touched me.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's like, oh it's different, he's different. So I just
keep you know, on fourteen, he's sixteen.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I just keep going.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I just keep going, just keep going.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So some some getting through something not some getting through
some getting not. And I felt as if if I
was to get step off the gas pedal, he was
gonna get me.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
So I just had to keep going.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
You feel me?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
And I know he explained that a lot of times
in interviews, like that's why he respects me so much,
Because in that spar right there, I didn't respect him
at all.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I was just trying to.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I was come up, you know what I'm saying, like,
and that's what it was. And after the sparing, we
respected each other like it was a different type vibe.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
After we spard.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Honestly, now it was like, oh damn, bro, like damn,
like we really started getting to know each other.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
You feel me? Because when he came to I gym.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
He was popular like chicaou was the guy they know,
everybody knew and images, so he came everybody knowings. So
I'm staying offish. I'm seeing that I'm not really talking
to him. I don't care for real real you cool, I
don't you know, I don't know you like, but I
have to be sparred. It was like, oh damn, bro,
yeah you actually all height. You know what I'm saying,
Like you ain't know Prima Donna, ain't none of that,

(18:07):
you know.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
So we really started like.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's the universal language in boxing, man. You know, once
we get it in. We may feel away beforehand, once
we get it in, like it's respect. So I love
that about the sport, Like it's the only sport you
can try to knock somebody's head off and get hug
him after that. That's crazy to me.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
It's normal, but it's normal us.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
What I'm saying on the outside looking in, that's really
that ain't really normal. We make it normal. But like
we just fought each other for twelve round.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
You try to hurt me. I tried to hurt you.
Ain't man, respect man, It's crazy. When did you first
meet coach k Kroma.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, I met coach K when I was a kid
before Charkor yeah, way before Skor Okay, yeah, okay, I
was probably like ten years old.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I make K and then.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Man, you so you you know, you establishing yourself, and
then you convince your mother to let you go to Virginia, right, Alexandria, Right,
yeah that's the Alexandra.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yep. So both of y'all training together under coach.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
K and and Troy and ke Oh he came with you.
Yeah he was with me really okay, so he's so good. Yeah, yeah,
so he was with you the whole time.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
And so you.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Get to a point, man, where the pressure you start
to feel the pressure. You're away from home, right, you're
away from home. You're starting to feel the way of that.
You're getting ready for the Olympics. You're an Olympic hopeful,
and you.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Have a situation that happens where.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
You know you're mental, you're not feeling right, and from
what I read, tell me I from wrong. Like at school,
they seeing it, you know, like even though you wanted
to go there, you're there now, but that's not your
environment you used to going to all black school. It's
I don't know if it's all white, but it's more
white people than you used to see in and you
just got all these different things, the pressure trying to
provide for your family, and you have a situation. Walk

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me through that, man, because I think that's a pivotal
point in your story.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yes, moving from Norfolk, Alexandria. You know, it was definitely
a pivotal point at that time. My brother Kelvin he
stopped boxing.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Oh he was done.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, Kelvin quit okay, Kevin quit boxing. He moved out
the house at eighteen and never, you know, never moved back.
So at that time, Kelvin was the Olympic hopeful for us.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
He was the guy.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
He was me but like that, you know, like he
Kelvin was, he was nice too. He could he could
have really done it if he would have just kept going, going, going,
he really could have done it.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So he left boxing.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
So as a little brother, you know, it fell on me,
you know, And if I were to stopped boxing, then
you know, I'm knowing at that time, at sixteen years old,
I'm knowing if I stopped boxing, it's over with for us.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Hm. He felt that for show or show, providing for
your mother, getting it into a better situation.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
It was like either Keisha on, keep boxing or living
or normal life like get a.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Job, Like what what you gonna do? You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
I don't have n I ain't have no business adventures.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I just knew college or whatever or the things that
I I I was raised around, so it was either
box or just go to school every day.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
But was that pressure you put on yourself? It was
mom saying stuff like, hey, you need to make sure
or was it just you? It was me?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Okay, definitely was me, cause I I'm real spiritual. I
know you spiritual. So in my spirit it was like Keishaan,
you have a choice, box or don't box. If you box,
you gonna be here. If you don't box, you gonna
be good. But you just not gonna You just gonna
be here. And like it was really in my spirit,

(21:40):
I'm I can, I can. I remember that feeling, you know.
You know, of course I chose chose boxing, you know,
and I'm knowing at that time, I said, I'm thinking,
I'm really sitting down thinking to myself it's real.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
And I'm on my my.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Little bill was like a little prison kind I'm folded
it up in no cap like a little prison kind
and I'm like, alright, if I keep boxing, i gotta
go somewhere so I can succeed. Cause Norfolk, Virginia is
not it can't. I can't stay here and succeed. Where
is the right place to go to? At that time,
I said handbangers DC.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Did you know comes buried through the amateurs seeing them
at the nationals all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, but I didn't know them like that.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Okay, but I'm just knowing in the DC area it's
boxing their work, and then that's the best gym out there.
So I'm like fit. I know they don't got my style,
but I'm nice. I can make it work, betting on myself. Really,
I just need coaches to give me there, you know.
So long story short, I'm training, I'm training. I'm training.
I don't have a coach at this time, so I'm

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hopping from GM and gym. I'm going from my gym
Broad Park to all the way across Hampton, twenty minutes,
fifteen minutes away, not getting back home till like ten
o'clock at night sometimes from coming from the gym training.
Nobody know me at this time, Neither grinding three different
jams and one of the gyms I I happened to
the sweepee. And that was around that time he was

(23:02):
training me. He was coaching, yeah, and you know, he
was coaching me, giving me advice and stuff like that.
And around that time, that's when Ka reached out to
my mother, called her from the Olympic Training Center or hem.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
But Shakur told Kate to reach out Goscha. That's how
I got that.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
So he reached out twenty sixteen, you know, can Keishan
come out there and helped she court.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Get ready for the Olympics. That was basically the turning
point for me.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And that's why the reason one of the reasons why
I really loved Schachor is because, like I said, k
called my mother. Shakour told Kay to call my mother.
So I wasn't even on USA Boxing team at this time.
So Shakur put me in a position to where if
I impressed these USA Boxing coaches, which I did, I'm
forever gonna be like on their radar now, you know.

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So now I'm a step ahead before I even got
on the team. You understand what I'm saying. So when
I got out there and I sparred him. I did
great against him and all the others Karay Russell, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Charles Bark call.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Carwell, just looking good against all of them, and of
course they wanted me back. And I'm growing relationship with
your cor so out there your course, like yo, who
you trained with? Like I don't have a coach. I
was like, I was playing on going there the Bury
Hunter in them. He was like, why you just don't
train with us? Like who you and coach K.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I'm like, damn, that do makes sense, Like I'll just start.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I had light bull just all over my head, like
I just felt like my life about started changing, you know,
put I put K on the phone my mother and
I started packing my bags like after that school year
because that was that eleventh grade year, so after that
year or twelve grade, so.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It was moms on it right away or she was
like I don't.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Know, nah, she was on it.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
She was she was listening to everything I was saying
because I was making sense. I ain't had no coaching,
no folk. I needed to go somewhere else I could
have a coach. Oh yeah, that makes sense and place
at the same time as sixteen year I'm a kid. Yeah,
making real big decisions. But at the same time, I
was boxed as I was nine. So I'm damn there
and doing it systems for THEMN there ten years, you know,

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so I still I know what I'm talking about too.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
You know it's crazy, y'all was I know y'all were
still young, but you y'all had that much potential on
y'all to have a coach, Like, that's crazy to say
you didn't have a coach at a certain point.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, because I coach coach Gloria Peak.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, that's my girl.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
She's like coach.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
She'd be with me as the training camps. I've been
with her. You know. She ain't my personal coach obviously,
but man, she'll meet me at them camps and stuff. Man.
She at the National Oh.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, I ass she was. She's cool though, but she
was tough.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Man. That's my girl. Man, I respect her. Yup.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Man, you had, like I said, you had a situation,
bro where you call it a you call it a
mental breakdown. Yeah, and your sister reached out to who
to tell you to go get admitted and go get
checked out.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
My counselor in my school reached out to my sister,
and my counselor told my sisters I should get checked up.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
And you quoted a saying this.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
You said, they strapped me down to the stretcher, they
cut on the sirens, and I ride that way for
three hours. When I get there, they make me take
strings out of my hoodie in my pants. And you said,
you know why, you didn't want to be a danger
to yourself, and your mother told you, don't snap, And
you said, the only thing I know how to do

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was the only thing that I was gonna make the
situation worse was basically snap.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You and are you heading to this facility? Like, are
you just going through adolessons? I'm just angry and I
don't know how to process my anger. Are you really
having a mental breakdown in that moment now that you've
had time to reflect, Nah, it.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was definitely breakdown for sure, because I can say it
was a breakdown because I started harming myself, So that's.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So, and I was going on for a little before
that before that moment.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, I was doing that before I even move to Alexandria,
you know. And the only person that knew that was
Keyon at the time because Kevin left, so I was
telling key On everything key On holding it down though,
you know, but definitely a breakdown though.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It was definitely a tough time, toughest time. What was
you getting out of that when you would harm yourself?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Some people said they feel a relief or they feel
like a and then later they feel guilty.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
For doing it. Is that the dynamic you felt when
you would do things like that?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Now, I never felt guilty during the time, Like I
I can, I really remember this, like how I felt
in everything when I was doing it. It felt good a
lie to you, because I was just so numb and
I just wanted to feel something so bad, so I'm
actually feeling something, So it was actually feeling good. It
felt like somebody was just pinching me, Like it was

(27:47):
just like a pinch, you know, like it ain't hurt.
It was just like a pinch, like like wake me
up type thing, you know what I'm saying. But definitely
serious though, you know, definitely serious, you know. And the
only thing that that make me it's like damn, It's
like it made me think, like damn about it is
like how it's telling my little brother my little brother everything,

(28:11):
and that's like, that is a serious problem for a
sixteen year old kid to go through. And I'm telling
my thirteen year old little brother and he is holding
it down. He's not saying nothing, you know what I'm saying, And.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's not right at that time.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
But it just shows how strong like we are, like
in terms of like DV three, you know, and I
could have did the same thing for Kelvin, like Kevin
I was saying that he did the same thing. You
feel me, But it just shows like how strong like man.
It's DV three man, you know, it.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Goes, it's deep deep.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
So you get to this facility and one of the
things that you talk about that really helped you, you
said you saw young people that was younger than you
and they doing something that you didn't really know how
to do at that time, which is open up and
express yourself. And you said that was like the turning
point for you to start opening up. So when you
did start opening up, what did you feel?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, when I was opening up inside of their it
was more so me like because I would tell my
because you would have to tell your story, so I
would tell my story. I would tell a story but
as I tell a story and I hear this person

(29:24):
like really opening.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Up, and like, damn, damn.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I probably should have said a little more, you know
what I'm saying, But it's like damn. So just seeing
stuff like that, it just let people know, like it's
okay to tell your story, to tell your testimony, because
how that made me feel that this kid is telling
this her or his real story makes me feel better.
You understand what I'm saying. So I remember that I took

(29:50):
that in, you know, and that helped me.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Just just now I'm like, yo's it's okay just to
speak about things and things that she went through. You know,
if you still going through it, okay, don't put it
out there in the public.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Still in that situation. That's not healthy.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
But if you passed it and you know how to
live healthy through it, then of course I feel like.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You should speak your testimony.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
When you first talk to your mother when you were
in there, what did she say to you.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
How I was feeling, how I'm doing, what's going on
in there? The basic questions, you know. I think when
they first see me, I was already on medication, cause
the first couple of days I ain't get I ain't
have visit visit time or it was like a weekend
or something like that. So I think I was already
on medication. So she was asking me a lot of
questions around like the medicine.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Like what they're giving you and how you feeling.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, what was that turning point where you felt like, Man,
I think I think i'm'a be alright?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
It was warm alright, bet cause I I wanted to
quit box and everything. So yeah, cause w w T
I get off the medication. F I think I got
off the medication, went through a time where I wanted
to quit boxing and came back. So when I knew
I was actually gonna be alright, it was this show
I'm finally back in the j I'm finally back in
the in the boxing, and I came back cause I

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lost Nationals. I was supposed to get on the team,
lost nationals, quit boxing, finally came back.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
So it was like March April.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
It's a show, a local show and just a show,
and uh, I fort and I stopped the guy.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
But I'm in.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm in the ring as I'm fighting 'em first round,
I'm touching 'em. I'm in my head and I'm like,
I'm about.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
To stop him.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And then that was like the first time in like
two years that I felt myself flowing. Cause I was
losing nationals, I'm losing fights. Well, when I was going
through that hard times, the mental times, medication, all that stuff,
I was, I wasn't myself.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I wasn't fighting like myself. I just was and me
I was weak, I was trashed.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
So in that moment when I was fighting that local
kid and I'm getting him in, everything was just flowing.
I'm in the ring, like, oh, I'm smiling for real,
I'm smiling and wooded over.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
This smile was like because I can't believe, like I'm.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Actually finally feeling like myself. I end up stopping him
in the second round. I told my coach at that time,
his name is Coach Steady. I said, Steady, I ain't
losing no more. I went on a thirty year old
wind streak. That's crazy, low cat. I went on a
thirty and old Wayne streak. And the person I lost
to was I was in Germany. I lost to a Cuban.

(32:38):
He's like a world champion. Yeah, yeah, No, it wasn't Andy.
It was the other Cuban, the one that was lit
before Andy. Okay, but he was like my age now
and I was like nineteen, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
It wasn't really a loss.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
They before grown.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
So man, you back you back, and then you end
up at twenty nineteen, you back in position to get
ready for the twenty twenty Olympics, ends up being twenty
twenty one with COVID. But so you in the twenty
nineteen Pan American Games, right, twenty nineteen World Championships, and
you keep meeting Andy Kruz in the finals, right, talk
to me about them two finals, uh losses from him?

(33:16):
And just what you remember how you felt.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
I were.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
The first loss is the one I can really really
remember how I actually felt. And after I lost to
him the first time, it was like, oh, these guys
can't beat me. Man, he I ain't lose him for real,
Like I'm gonna go back to the drawboards. I'm gonna
do like this and I'm gonna beat him like I'm
I'm nice, I'm him, like I just fought this my
second Cuban because I, like I said, I fought the

(33:43):
first one, and then now he's the new generation Cuban
and Andy Kruz guy. So I'm like, I don't fought
him second Cuban I the Forough Artist competition.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
I'm I'm I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
And I just I was just confident for real, I
ain't really ain't really really bothered me because I knew
how to fight him again in the Pan American Games.
M hm, when I fought hundred Pan American Games. I
don't like watching that fight or those fights at all myself.
Those were my first times ever fighting on ESPN, ever

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fighting on television. But those was like, for me, my
worst performances of my imagery career.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
At that time. It was definitely tough. My mother.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
We found out that my mother had MS, and I'm
in camp, you know, training, So she goes to the hospital.
You know, she in at the hospital. You know, she
was like this one day, she was driving to work
and she like blacked out. Literally, she said she was driving,
she blacked out and she woke up on the side
of the road and she don't even know nothing and
nothing or nothing.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So she was.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Like she felt like she did that before, but she
was like that time was really serious.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So long story.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So she was to the doctor and they just said,
like you know, she got MS and that was like
probably like two weeks before going to the Pan American
Games or like a week for or something like that.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Okay, so like that, like you know.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
So I'm out in Peru, my mama out there with
me though, you know, my family, but yeah, my family,
my Nanna even came out there, my sisters. But you know,
like that's new, it's brand new. So I'm knowing my
mother feeling this, she's going through it. So I'm really,
I'm really I'm not there and I got I'm angry
for real, I'm mad.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I'm angry. I'm nineteen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So I don't really fully know how to channel those emotions.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Really.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I got the idea, but I don't really know. So
I'm in that Jont just literally fighting Drake from fighting rumbling. Yeah,
I'm fighting. I'm not boxing fighting, you know what I'm saying.
And in Peru Pan American Games, that was a that time.
That was a time when he caught me with a
good shot, you know what I'm saying. And he caught
me with a good shot and I guess they he

(35:54):
I got hurt or whatever, But yeah, that was that
was a whole spectacle. Man was terrible. After that was
World Championships. That's when I full him to get in Russia.
And after that fight, I was just like, oh, yeah,
he's cause I knew I.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Beat him and Russia won that one. Yes, I knew
I beat him in that one.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Who was the score? You remember it? Points?

Speaker 5 (36:17):
No?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
It was points.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
It was like three two three judges him to me,
and I just felt like he I just boxed him
so clean cut. It almost felt like, well, damn well,
it's the only way I could beat this.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I knock him out.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
That's the only one gonna beat him.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Y'all love him, He's, y'all star, the only one i'mnna
be in my knock him out. So when it came
to the Olympics, I already knew, you know, I gotta
go in here and freaking big damn there and just
knock him out. And I thought I had it, But
I'm knowing, like in the decision, like when I've been
in this moment three times already, I'm feeling like I

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have it, So that means I lost, you feel what
I'm saying. So when that decision came, like again, I
been through it three times.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
That's as it came.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
It was just like it was just what it is.
That's what it sam like though when I watched it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
But you had already had three profiles though, And I
ain't gonna get into the whole thing, but it's a
whole thing with USA boxing where you was able to
come and compete and represent the US. And when I
watched the fight, I was like, he don't seem like
he bothered by that. He seemed like he was ready
just to keep keep going with his pro career. It

(37:28):
didn't seem like it crushed you. I don't know if
that's if you felt that you're.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Saying when they called me back to go to it.

Speaker 2 (37:33):

Speaker 1 (37:34):
When after you lost the Indye Cruz in the Olympics,
I did, it didn't seem like you was crushed. It
seemed like you were just like, Bro, I'm I'm I'm
finna go back to what I was doing, which was
already being a professional fighter.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah. Was that true? Or was you hiding at Nah?

Speaker 4 (37:46):
I wasn't hide that.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Like after the Olympics, I was so happy. That was
one of my happiest times in my life.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah. Hell, after after you lost. Yeah, what why?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Because it was it was just like I just lived
out my dream, man, It's not. It's not when you
live out your dream. Like my dream was to go
to the Olympics and also win a gold medal. I
didn't win a gold medal, but at the end of
the day, I just stopped the number one guy in
the in the tournament.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I stopped him.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
I'm giving guys eight counts the entire the entire lightweight division. Literally,
I was to talk. I was to talk throughout the
whole Olympic route like it wasn't And also like I
had friends, like real friends there. They didn't get no medals,
you know what I'm saying. So I was just grateful that.
I was just grateful. I was literally just grateful that

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I got to live out my dream.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, because you almost missed that.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I was the rules and all the stuff that.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I was so me knowing that too, it was like, damn,
I was about to miss this. So literally I was
just I was literally was just grateful.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
So you get back and you end up signing with
top Ring and immediately to me, the way I'm hearing
you talk and even top Rain talks like you want
to be on a fast truck.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
You're trying to get there a sac What was why?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Cause I believed in myself and I knew I could
do it, and I didn't want to look back and like, dang,
I should have did this, should have did that?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
You know. So I knew I could do it, so
I wanted to do it. Where that confidence come from?
And I was born with it? I was.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I was born with it, like for real, like when
I was playing football, like running you over, bro, what
you talking about? And I really did it though, But
like even with boxing, like I know I can fight
outside like you know I was. I was fighting like
before boxing, so I knew I can fight, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So it's just all hand in hands, Like yeah, when.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I hear you talk, you know, all confidence is not
created equals.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Sometimes it's a pump fake.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Sometimes gods sound confident, but you like, who are you
trying to convince me?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Or you?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
When I hear you talk, it's almost like if you
say now I'm going there and stopping probably within the
first part, like you really mean that, But Joe, I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I don't get the sense that you, like really trying
to convince us. But you really don't believe it. Yeah, nah,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I'm a person that I don't care what you think
about me, and I'm not here to convince you. I'm
gonna show you, like for real, like and I would
be happy doing it.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
You pro career on the way, Olympics behind you, amateur
careers behind you. You five six seven fights, and you
still spawn with your cord at this time.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
No, he ducked me last camp.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, he duck me.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So when y'all spawned early in your career with them
sessions looking like if I ain't talking about detailed detail,
but like just give me an idea, what if I'm
a flying the water with them sessions look like they
intense early in my career.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, early, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Early in my career, I would say, like I'm twenty
six now. Yeah, when I was like twenty one, so
he like twenty three. I used to like try to
walk it's down. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I just try to walk them down.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Trying to box.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
No, like I ain't got time for all that.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
And I feel like I'm not abouna sit back and
try to box what you need, Like I'm a fighter.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
You know what I'm saying. You're a boxer, you know
what I'm saying. So I gotta use my best advantages
right right? You with K, You're still with K up
until your third fight, and then you make the shift.
Answer this if you feel comfortable answering this.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
What is it with K? From what I see from
a distance, where.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
He got a lot of great talent in his hands
and it seems that he starts with him but he
don't finish with him.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I guess that's just him At this point, I can't
really answer that, you know, because I can't really speak
on the other relationships he got with other fighters, you know,
I can't really speak on that. So just you know,
once he left me, I can say I was looking
from looking at him outside, looking in and the only
thing I can say off that is, I guess that's.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Just what he do. But I thought you left him? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Nah, yeah left him? Okay, yeah, I left him for sure?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
So why did you need to make that shift? And
then why B? And B?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
I just feel like, you know, like again, like it
wasn't about me. It was about like dB three, you know,
and he had a lot of stuff going going on
to where he couldn't take on me and my brothers.
That was really like priority outside of all the you know,
all the other ones and two's, but like priority was
are you capable and willing to work with all three?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Was that he wasn't, you.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Know, will Well capable. You know, he probably was willing,
but I don't think he was capable bo Mac. You know,
he already had a structured team.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
It made sense. Yeah, they got three coaches over there.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
So you being around Terrence Crawford behind the scenes, like
give me one or two things that you picked up
from him as a person as an athlete, where.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
You know, like that's why he is who he is. Uh.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
First of all, he's a great person, you know, So
that's that's number one. You get your blessings about it.
You know, how you treat people like care yourself or
your great father.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
So I watch his character.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I also watch how he be a father, how he
be so busy he still raise his kids.

Speaker 2 (42:50):

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, for sure, So I definitely watched those two character
resist traits. And of course as a fighter, he's mean,
you know, I feel like me and him, me and
him you know, we share mentalities in the ring, we
share mentalities. We're we're boxer fighters, you know, like we
gonna box you, but we really tryna fight you at
the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
And being around him, you know, helped.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Me in a way to where I I'm I'm more
smarter at doing it, you know, cause at first it
was just more so aggression, aggressive aggression, speed. I can
get there, some things I get away with. But you know,
him being his later in his career, you know, things
starting to slow down, so he moved more with his mind.
So I'm watching that and I'm just picking up on it.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, what have you gotten personally or just as an athlete?
What's one or two things you've gotten from being around
that team though, where it's like this, this make me better.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Structure, okay for show.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Structure just at the top of my head that jont
is definitely structure, communication, teamwork, make the dream work, for sure,
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Over there.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
We support each other at each other fights. But inside
of the trading camp, we pushing each other. We all
there on time. If if we are like militarraining camp,
we all tired as people. Some people come a little
late this, that, and the third bo Matt, we all in
the jail.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Hey, yo, everybody, come here.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Look Holley Loup, y'all stop being on time.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Y'all tired?

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Let us know, da da da da? You feel me
so I can't.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Definitely is structured, and I think that's why one of
the big reasons why we are all successful in our team.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Y'all believe how you do some things, just how you
do all things, you know what I'm saying. So like
people look at like maybe showing up on time as
a small thing, but that's your work. If you take
that serious, even on the days when you don't feel
like it, you gonna see that in the ring. You
don't see that, And how you live and how you
live is gonna affect what you do in the ring.
All that stuff is intertwined working together, right.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
It's the small things for sure. Just those are small
things for So.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
They take me back to October twenty third, twenty twenty three.
You beat a fighter naire all bright, and then not
long after that, you have the positive test. When you
get that positive test for marijuana, Like, were you bracing
for it or what was you thinking when you heard
your stuff came back dirty, bro, What you're thinking?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (45:00):
First all, was you raising for it?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Because you know, listen, I'm gonna tell you this, check
this out. I'm gonna check your check this out.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Like when I was young man being in the Nationals,
I'm still kind of in the streets and you know,
you try to get yourself together.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I'm gonna stop for four weeks.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I remember getting getting ready to get tested after I won,
and I'm up there at Colorado Springs.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
What the gym? Are we taking the test? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:28):
And I'm nervous, bro, Yeah, for sure, I'm nervous. Were
you nervous or what? Did you feel like? My year
ain't gonna be clean?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I was like, oh yo, I was like whatever it
has been happens. That's how I was feeling. Really, it
was like, whatever happens happens.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
But did you think this might not be good? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Hell yeah, just checking.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I'm gonna because this is this this the this is
the old keyshan Okay this you know twenty twenty three
keys Sorry, it's twenty twenty five, right, So look this
is now you're all right?

Speaker 4 (46:01):
That was the third time I did that?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Oh your life's second? Three?

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Second, third, third time?

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Second one of them, probably second time I did that
on fight week.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Fight week? Hold on, bro hold on, you feel me?
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
So it was just like it was I got passed.
I got pasted the first time. I got past the
first time, so I should be straight for the second time.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
But you know that was you know, fight week.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, it'd be like that, Shine, it'd be like that.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
I know it was like that.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like it was like that.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, So you said you did it three times that
week or that was the third time you did it
on fight week?

Speaker 4 (46:41):
No, that was like the third time did it on
fight week.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
So you get that phone call.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
What you're thinking when they said, yo, it's all bad,
we got a problem.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
Well, I was thinking, like.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
You thinking.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
It's funny because I ain't have a conversation with about
boys yet.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
You know what I'm saying, so they hear it right now.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
But I was thinking, like, I mean, like not for real.
I was thinking I just got tightened up at the
end of the day.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I was just like.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
This somewhat slap on the wrist key mm hmm. They
ain't take your money m hm, So it's somewhat slap
on your wrists. You got to tighten up because outside
of you know, the consequences that I got. I'm looking
at the media and they criticizing that fight, like, man, this.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Guy ain't even looking like all that was close.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
He's look at mediocre.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Majority win that went to this is majority, but you
know who wanted to fight win.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
The judges, it was majority, was close on the score card.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Hey, you funny, it was majority, but they were just
looking at me like I was just like regular, and
I felt it. You know, I was fighting for DAWs
and next. So I just had to tighten up for real.
I had to tighten I was losing my spark.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Were you embarrassed?

Speaker 4 (48:04):
I was losing my it factor?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I was, Yes, I was embarrassed, Yes for sure, because
you only as good as your last performance, so I'm
knowing how great I really am.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
So now people looking at me like just regular, and
I'm finitive. I'm like, you got me affed up?

Speaker 4 (48:22):
You know what I'm saying. So I just had to
get it back your show.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
What's your mama say? When that test came down?

Speaker 4 (48:28):
My mama already.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
She knew what it was.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
She probably n't know now what I was doing, how
I was doing it.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
She knew what I was. I mean, you gotta think
about it like this. On the outside looking in.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
That dude looked crazy and it's crazy for for a fighter.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Like if you don't need nothing else, you need your win.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
You need the first thing you think about he ain't disciplined,
then that the talent you see, it's not as important
now because you like, bro, it don't matter how much
talent he has because if he doing this, what else
he doing? And if he plays like this and he
just had a close fight with dude, you gon't think
like that naturally, I don't.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Care who you are.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
But when you think like that, you still can get
you right, right, because he fighters. But when you think
like that, he still can get people because.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Like, yeah, for sure, but you got to show see
that situation.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
But you got to show it though.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
That's why you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
That's like, if you didn't make that's why you made
that shift. But if you don't make that shift, man,
I'm looking at you and I'm like, bro, like I
don't don't like. I go from saying like, oh he
gonna be one of the ones to he touched a
positive for what right? The next thing if you come
from their world, and you know what that's about.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You're starting to think, like, what else is he doing? Nah? Worried?
Hold on, it don't take that long for that to
get out your system. So when did he do it? You?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I'm thinking people don't think this. I'm thinking that people
don't think that. So now you got to step back
and just sit back and watch and see.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Ok, I gotta see what let this playoff?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Because a whole lot of people that came through this,
this boxing game.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Oh, they had a lot of talent, just had no discipline,
or you let a lady too much, or you love
to drink too much. You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
But you didn't make the shift though, for sure, for sure,
And tell me about that, because you said that.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
God delivered you from it. Yeah, what you mean by that?
And what happened?

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Well, this when I was fighting for Draza, I was
fighting for Draza, and.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I was still, you know, doing the things, doing those things,
you know, and this now camp has arrived. It's probably
like the first week of camp and I'm still doing
those things, and sparring came.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I didn't feel good.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I wasn't messing with your whats your what's your what's
your cardiovascular system?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Nah? What you didn't feel it? Nah? Different?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
It was just it just won't right.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I just wasn't right.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Okay, I can say that. And I was just praying,
you know. I was just praying. And I woke cup
the next like literally I woke cut the next one.
I just I just didn't feel the urge to just
go and just do it again, you know. And I
just kept day after day like just kept riding riding. Shoot,
I made it all the way to the fight, you
know what I'm saying. I thought I looked great, you

(51:12):
know what I'm saying. Thank God afterwards, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
And I'll shoot.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Came back though to maybe try to celebrate after the
wind like man, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Urges, it's always like, you know, it's always gonna be
like tests.

Speaker 2 (51:25):

Speaker 4 (51:26):
It's always gonna be Urge's always gonna be tested, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
The devil.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
The devil is consistent. He always gonna keep trying to
play with you, you know what I'm saying. So they
ain't never gonna stop.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
See, it's the difference between right, say say something like weed, right,
I know, when you know I stopped drinking and stop
smoking weed. It's one thing for you to get like
you feeling the pool from the inside out, where it's like,
man I gotta go do this, versus the outside end
where you're getting tempted, like you said, when it's when
you're getting tempted from the outside end, where it's like, Okay,

(51:56):
I'm getting tempted but it ain't got that same hooking
me like it used to. That's how you know you're
working with with something good. You know you changing and
you know you're going to another level. But when it's
from the inside out, you just getting driven the door,
like man I can't help, I can't start.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
That's a different feeling.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
And you're saying when that shift came, you start feeling
like the temptation is there, but it ain't got that
hooking me like you.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
So that's what you're telling them, Yeah for sure in
that moment for show.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah so, and you said that, and even your coaches
attest to this that you said that you're a way
better person.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
When you're not smoking weed.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Yeah, why, I'm me like, when I'm not on doing that,
I'm energetic. Like I'm energetic. I'm more of a people person,
you know what I'm saying. When I when I was
to do that, I had to be like just chill,
laid bat.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Like take that spark away.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Yeah exactly, it just go with I just be dull
for real.

Speaker 2 (52:50):

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I wouldn't be like real energetic, but like you know,
when I don't do it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I'm cool. Cool. That's what's up, bro, that's what's up. Man. Yeah,
I love, I love I love I love hearing it. Bro.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
A lot of people are not talking about the stuff,
you know, And yeah, it ain't easy in the position
you in. It's hard because you get a lot of scrutiny.
You know, you're a professional athlete that's grown, your starting
has grown. So it's like do I share this shit?
I share this and when I share it, I opened
myself up. But I appreciate you sharing it though, because
it's hard, like you said.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, appreciate you. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I'm gonna shift gears right now. Man, what's your issue
or what is the issue?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
What you want?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Javontae Davis, y'alln sparred together. Y'all haven't been in each other,
in the vicinity of each other, and it seemed like
maybe y'all was cordial, if not.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Cool, what's the issue?

Speaker 3 (53:39):
A lot of that stuff that I was, you know,
going back and forth with him about what's just boxing.
I wasn't taking the person. He even put my mama
in it, and me and Herry didn't even take a person.
We just like, how so this boy crazy like he
was just like I said something that he was like,
you must be talking about your mama, like what?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
But I didn't, you know, it was all boxing.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
It wasn't until when, you know, something I said to
my phone and he was making fun of my mental health.
He said something like this kid talked so much and
was he just trying to kill himself? It was like
in a joking way, and he tweeted it, Oh yeah,
but you know he been least so.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
I seen it. And when I seen that, I was like.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Alright, bet now it's personal.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Now I now I don't with you, cause why why
are you joking about my mental health.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
When we knowing your background? And I would never go there,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
So once he went there, he was like, yeah, I
don't with you.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
You probably really don't wanna fight me. Now you think
that's the fight you gonna you gonna ever get? Or
you thinking that.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I don't think he. I don't think he wanna fight me.
That's my like, my like, just my genuine answer. I
really think he does not wanna fight me.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Has he responded to any of the call outs or
anything like that? Yeah? He did.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
You know, we damn a lot. Honestly, it will be good.
Dam we did all the time. You know, it just
hit the media, they hit the public.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I got you. Let's get back to the fighting man.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
November twenty twenty four, You far in Norfolk, Virginia Legendary
Scope Arena in front of a sould out crowd. That
was crazy? Did you expect that event to.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Be that big? Yes? Big? Yes?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
And though yes, and though I was telling my friends
you know that, it was like, look, I'm telling y'all
it's gonna be big.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
They kept saying, are you how big is gonna be?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
How to ask you?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
They like, are you sure?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Like? Watch?

Speaker 4 (55:45):
So it turned out bigger than we all expected, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
So I didn't.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
I did not did not expected to be that big,
But I gave him my hands up.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Gave my hands up because it was something crazy like
forty eight hours, like seven eight How many tickets were.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Sold in a short period of time. I don't remember.
It was a crazy number.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
It was definitely a crazy number. The pre sale tickets
sold out and he had to put some more pre
sale tickets out like the next day.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
So what was top ranks response when they said that?
Oh he really, he really did that.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
It was like, we got to come back.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah, come on, if you can sell out in your hometown,
it was like, we gotta even again. But Joseph's side though,
the vibes there that fight, we vibes there.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
What they was saying like it was just unmatched. You know,
they never experienced a lot of top rank. Top rank
was saying they never really experienced a vibe like that
from a from a fight week. They was like, man,
we can't wait to come back here. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I mean me too. I never really felt like a
vibe like.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
That during a fight week, like for real, you know,
so Norfolk something something in the water out Norfolk for sure?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
How did you stay focused?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
The hometown fights are different, Like it's one thing to
fight in a neutral location where some people for you,
some people against you. When you got your hometown and
everybody expect you to win, it's a different type of pressure. Hell,
you expected to win everybody you see.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Hey, bro, do your think I'm gonna be at the fight? Man,
I'm gonna be. I'm coming, I'm coming.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I mean you want people to come, right, You want
people to expect either way, right, you know what it's like. Look,
this is how I look at it out on four
overseas everywhere in different people countries where I was literally
the only fighter in there that wanted me to win, right,
you feel me?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
So when I come home home, it's time to show up.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Come home, bro, I don't understand how people could be
like I hate fight home.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Where else you gonna be comfortable at? Because you got
people at tickets? Ticket? Man, you got to tell your man,
Hey man, I'm your uncle. Man, you got two tickets
from me?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
That stuff, You got a team, so you had your
stuff locked.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
That stuff was.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Happening to me like people are still calling my phone
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Like, damn, I thought I had but this is gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Coming to sport, coming to territory, You're a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
You're the superstar in year town.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
In that moment right there, You're a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You're the star. So it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
You gotta have You gotta be mentally prepared to happen,
be prepared to be ready.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Enjoy the moment. You look like you enjoyed the moment.
I enjoyed the hell out of that movie. That moment
was a hell of a movie. And it happened just
like you said it was gonna happen. It happened better. Mhmm.
Thank god. Did y'all stay in the city a few
days after that? Did y'all get out of here?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
I stayed the whole week? Yeah I should enough though,
Yeah I should have did that.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
What was it like? Man, we was.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Turd it up, getting getting do it a lot, doing
a lot, doing a lot.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
But honestly though it was he was making money.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Too, Yeah, sponsorship stuf just put showing enough in. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So it was a little
bit of both.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
The type of businessman is the business man like, like,
how do you handle your business? You'll be giving in
the negotiations or you shrew with your with your business.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Man, I ain't shrew. Nah, I'm pretty.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Open.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I'm I'm open. I can say I feel like I'm
very open.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I do.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
I am hands on my note with my negotiations.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
You are. Yeah, you like negotiating. You like going talking numbers.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
And when it goes right, okay, okay, it's funny because like, yeah,
I know, I know it's.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
All right now we look, but look, they've been in
the game a long time.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
They know how to go. I like I like.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
I like it because I like knowing. I'm like knowing
what other people is like thinking about me, and I
like hearing the future and what to look forward to.
I don't like being a mental man like yo, I
trust you, I love you. Do this and let me
know what he say, Like, no, I want to be
there if I got time, I want to be there.
And that's just me definitely hands on, always been hands on.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
That's good for that way. Man.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
You had a son, man, what is it like having
a son that you got to take care of and
you're responsible for.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Uh, it's a He'll lie. It's amazing. It's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
It's it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
It's tough. It's amazing, though, Man, like just waking up
every day. I literally think about him first person. I
think about beat him, you know what I'm saying, Like
think about like his first birthday and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Like he's seven months now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
He just turned seven months like two days ago.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I don't think about his first birthday now and just
all that type stuff, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
So, uh, it's funny, man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
It's got to motivate you more though, being a fighter,
you know what I mean, I ain't just providing for
me and my mama.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
My I got a baby, a real baby I gotta
take care of.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Yeah, he definitely got me saving now, not even gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I was saving at first, but now really I'm really
saving that for real. I'm really like investing too. Like
you know, me and my friend, we like we got
just like this investment group.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You know we do.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
We in real estate, investing into real estate, you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Know like that real estate new construction. Yeah, we wek
in new construction right now. So we want to hoppy
into that. I'm eighteen, simis, I want to hit the road,
hitting the road. You know, I just bought the truck,
one of my first in my trucks, so we hitting
the road. So I'm playing with, I'm playing with little
love things outside of you know, try to keep things afloat.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
That's what you gonna let your fight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Hell no, you're what if he's wrong and he just tight,
he's like man, dad, and he gotta work at it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
That's the only way he can fight.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I'm talking about you begging dad, please please.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
The only way he can I swear, I tell, I told,
I told my friend, I told my boys over here this,
I said. The only way my is to fight is
if like he's like nice like me, if he like
good like me, he gotta be nice.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
If he ain't good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Enough, if you I I look like you can promote,
it ain't worth it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
It ain't worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Mm hmmm. That's how I feel the same.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Way that game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Man, Then you gotta follow in your footsteps. It's gonna
be big shoes to feel.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Yeah, but we ain't worry about that though.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
He gonna feel that though, because anything he do with
your father, your father, you might not do that, but
everybody else gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Yeah, he ain't be worry about that though, because if
you if you nice, you're not worried about that. They
got your fight, bro, You know, for real, and your.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
First title fight February fourteen, on Valentine's Day, fourteen days
before your birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
You were February what twenty eighth? I'm twenty third a word?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Yeah that's crazy, okay, But.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
You fight at Madison Square Garden against Baran Chick and
you dominated him and you stopped him in the fourth round.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
You fight him on Valentine's that my boy betrayed. Show
him no love though. Tell me about that fight, h
it was it was easy?

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Yeah, it was easy, honestly, yeah it was. It was
real easy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Really, that's how you expected it to be, or you
expected more from him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
I expect it to be easy, I was saying first round.
I expect to be easy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
You just be saying whatever you feel like. If you
feel it, you're gonna say it. You don't be thinking.
I probably didn't say that's gonna sound crazy, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
How has that changed your life, being a world champion,
or how has life changed?

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
I say so, Oh you're trying to figure that out
right now, Okause.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
I feel that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Fighters like they just calling me out a lot. Now
I'm getting people attention.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Oh they got your name, It ain't mam.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Yeah, for sure, because I got a belt now, you know,
so now they feel like we all feel like it's lucrative.
Now the fights are lucrative now, you know what I'm saying.
So they want to start mentioning me. They wanna start
mentioning me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
You like when other fighters speak on you or you
get offended like I do on man? Why you don't
disrespect me like I don't get infinished?

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
My name is businessman, so you like it. I tell
you everything in this sport is business.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
You know. Keep mentioning me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You know that that Cuban dude. Yeah, keep mentioning me.
You fighting this own my name game brought up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Keep mentioning me, you know, let me ask you about
that though. You want a cue me? Y'all? You gonna
you're gonna fight him in the pros? Hell? Yeah? Yeah,
how's that gonna go? This ain't the amateurs no more? Right?
How you think a fight with you and him gonna
go hundred six? You're gonna stop him? What the hell? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Have you had any real conversations about fighting now? Yes,
just talks, y'all have some talks.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
They ain't ready yet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Mm.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
They gonna they gonna see this right, and they gonna
get on social media. Oh he ain't never seen me,
no contract. Oh he ain't never talked to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
I never did talk to the fighter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
But when he on social media, he sounds like, you're ready. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
You gotta sound like that, though you know not tomorrow. Now,
you gotta sound like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
I was talking. I was talking trash to uh, to
Devin Handy. I was like seven and old, saying I'm
ready now. I'm knowing, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Well, I want ready now. I was going eight round fights.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I No, I ain't ready now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
You gotta sound that way. No, you don't believe I
know how to go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
You don't believe. No, cruise ain't ready for you. No,
he not really.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
But we can fight though. But they said no for
right now. They said I want to see that. They said, no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Want to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
You're on ig Live celebrating boat and one of your
diamonds fell off your belt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Bro, what happened? He talked to what happened? What happened?

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Celebration with it was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
A little too crazy, A little too crazy, mys me crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Though it's probably a warning. I don't know, man, this
this fell off.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
We all don't know it make you mad when you
don't pay them sation fee. See people don't be knowing fans.
They hear about secon fee. You paying tens of thousands
of dollars to fight for that belt. Yeah, and then
you get your belt. I want nothing wrong with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
My belt, Noah, for real, for real?

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
And it was a big It was the big diamond
dre it's the biggest doing the biggest diamonds up there.
And then might you know your name on the belt too?
So it was like, I can't have no damn ruby
missing the jot next to my.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Name for real?

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Like can we hit the w BO? Like yeah, absolutely new?
Now just give me a whole new one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Word that works all right? You wouldn't know, man, absolutely Okay.
I didn't paid enough for it, by the belt, it
ain't park on them. I don't know who over there,
but send that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah. So a man, another Virginia native, he reached out,
show some love. What that feel like? Shoe?

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Amazing shoe? AI like you said a legend Michael Vigg
as well. You know he reached out both and reached
out before I too, Yeah, hell yeah before I four
limos the day of the fight. I'm on the phone
three weight with him, were just.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Out there chopping it up, vibe and talking.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
So I would just wear Ai like two weeks ago,
you know, in the lounge, just kicking it with him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
And they support is real, genuine, not nothing fake around it,
you know what I'm saying. And just like me, I
just come off and say what's on my mind. Those
two guys right there that do the same thing. You know,
they understand me, you know, so real support for them
to guys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Mike Viga A.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
I always show love to the younger generation. I ain't
never since, no hating, no weird nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, like they show love you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Know Victy the coaching know if of State right now too, Yeah,
I've seen that for about to be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Talking to me about two few aut low pears. Man,
is it real beef? And do you think he sent
the bananas to your room the week of a fight?

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Mm, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's real.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I don't like call it beef too personal real dislike
between you. I don't really like TiO for real, stay
away from him, weird. I think he is one of
the people that potentially could have sent the bananas and
winning metal to my room if they.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Said somebody knocked on your door and they had a
basket of bananas, or did you go to your room
and the bananas is in the room.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I went to my room and I was just like, JJ,
what boxes this? He like, I don't know, somebody just
dropped it off and this that there. I said, you
ain't asked what it was?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
He said.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
I kept asking, but he just kept trying to throw
the bab to you here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I said what he said.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
He was like, yeah, just take it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Take it. He was like, what is it? He was like,
just take it, take it, take it, take it. So
I said, he just took out like think was a.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Bomb or something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That's straight up open the jone.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
It's a note with with with fruit in that jone,
A note said some something something with businesswoman at the
end of it. M you know so, But even if
it wasn't, you know, t o you know, him making
a video and putting that on Twitter, you know, putting
himself into something like that, you know, it's still you know,
don't it's not a good look, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
So I don't really with him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
You think you're gonna fight, do he Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
He talking like he would be willing to fight me,
so I don't know. I will fight t O tomorrow
to can't beat me, Bro, no doubt about it. You'll
fight me, Bro, I will fight till right now to
cannot beat me. I know that for a fact he can't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
If he wants you to come up to one forty on,
t O cannot beat me at OK, what's the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I'm just asking his power.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
If he say, man, hold off on your bell real quick,
keep that coming forty e faced me and then you
go back down to defend that, you'll do that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
Hell yeah, really really really hell yeah, Drake, I for around,
stop to yo life real like I won't see it,
like for real, Like he's serious like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
This life for the show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
I'm asking. I got my opinion, but it ain't about
my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
I'm asking you know, I want your opinion, like who
wins that fight?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
That's a good fight.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Who wins that's a good fight, it's a great fight,
potentially paper.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
View, Yeah, who wins? Y'all gotta fight this for the show.
This for the show. I can't get no opinion on that. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
If you really being truthful though, that's a that's a
competitive fight though, if you want to be a rich man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
If the odds, if the odds is like fifty to fifty,
I'm putting the whole bag.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Oh man, I'm telling you to you O K beat me, bro, Bro,
I want to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
People can't beat me, Bro, can't the white beat me?

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
And you know I interviews the cord. You know, I
gotta askt you too, big dog. Life changing money on
the line. No, it ain't all about the money, but
a life change of situation that y'all like. Man, Bro,
it's making a lot of sense because I don't have
nobody to really fight, You don't I'm talking about three
four whatever after road and know y'all got history. Is
there ever a possibility for y'all to shake hands and

(01:10:18):
say it ain't personal, let's go get.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
This and then we were moving on. I don't think so. Honestly,
I don't think so. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
No, three hundred million, two hundred million, three two hundred
I don't I don't know, Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yo, Mama might be hitting your phone saying, key, can
I talk to you?

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Three hundred we got I just gotta cross that line
where we get there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
You know what I'm saying, because I don't if somebody
really put three hundred and three hundred in both our faces,
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
That money is capable. You know Floyd did it, but
I mean, we just gotta see it. I don't really
like doing It's weird, bro, because at the end of
the day, I feel like, Bro, I'm gonna be at
one forty and then I'm going to forty seven.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Like this is just the beginning for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Do you think you're gonna go that bed me? Yeah yeah,
hell yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
I'm probably one seventy right now, seven.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Zero, Like, b I don't see it. Let me see.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I'm gonna tell you, let me see. I think probably
right now. You're probably walking around right now about.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Fifty three fifty four yeah, yep, fifty three to fifty
four yep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
So I don't get too big.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah. What do you want from boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I know you want to keep winning championships, Like when
you see your career timeline, you might not have the
exact timeline, money made, championship legacy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
What do you want from boxing?

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
First things first, definitely use this platform. Spread the word,
spread God, let the people know that God is real
for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
So that's number one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
I want to use boxing just to put me also
into just other avenues, like I honestly want to start
like getting into like streaming. I think I would be
a great promoter, you know, stuff like that. I just
wanna use boxing just to put me on other things.
You know, it's crazy, cause me and Chicur was just
talking about this. He was just over my house like
two days ago, and he was like, Damn, Keishon you.

(01:12:28):
I remember you was telling me about two years ago,
like how you was just like you don't really love
boxing like that, you just using boxing as a platform.
And he was just like at that time, he was
just listening to me talking, not really understanding, but he
was saying now he like, Damn, I really understand what
you're saying. What you was saying now, because like, yo, after.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I retire, He like, after I retire, I still gotta
live like fifty over a you know a lot of
years left after this, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
He was just like, Keishon, you was already thinking that way,
like yeah, so it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Was you know what I'm saying like, I can't, you can't,
I can't love it too much because this is just
don't come and go, and once it's going, I can't,
you know, I can't keep fighting with it, you know
what I'm saying forever, you know, So just using this
jone to put me on the avenues for real.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I love this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
I love this sport for sure, but just for the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
What did y'all your faith come from? And why are
you so I spoken about it? I grew up in
the church, for sure. I think I was in church
before I even started boxing, for sure. So I just
grew up in the church, always around it, you know.
And honestly, my sister is it is in our family.
She's the one that actually keep all us together in
terms of like God. She's the one that's like praying

(01:13:41):
day and day out, reading, going to church like you know,
heavy heavy, you know. So she definitely was a big
impact for us to keep God into our household. But
our mother definitely had us in our church. And honestly,
are you gonna be like open up for real? I'm
knowing God got a real plan for all our lives,

(01:14:02):
but just for like boxing purposes, and dB three. I
know he got a real plan for our lives, just
for what I said on this platform right here, from
when we was born in our family, knowing that we
not gonna be nothing to us actually being something, you know.
And just one time in church, man his name is

(01:14:23):
Pastor Powell. We real were close to him and he
laid hands on me. He's praying over me, and he
just he was speaking and he was just like, Yo,
you gonna you gonna be like real popular, like you
gonna you got a real big calling over your life.
Like he's praying over me saying that. And I'm like
probably like eight nine something like that. And I always

(01:14:43):
remember that, and I thought it was gonna be in
football at that time, you know. So mel living out
these days right here, you know those days right there,
Keep me grounded, keep me humble, you know what I'm saying,
because God knew before I knew you feel me. So
now I'm here, it's just like, you know, just stay
the course to be humble, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Don't forget young brother.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I appreciate you, man. You're welcome on the show all
your time. Bro, Yes, sir, thank you man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
That's it. Man, We out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
We leave in Las Vegas, but we ain't leaving without
a dope interview with Key showing the business man Davis.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Man. Appreciate y' all. Man til next time. Man, I
appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Bruh oh yes, sir Man anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
That's pretty cool.

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