Lamont Roach: Rematch With Tank? The Drama Behind The “Draw” & Did He Try To Bite You??

Lamont Roach joins The Art of Ward to break down his intense fight with Gervonta "Tank" Davis, including the controversial draw and shocking in-ring moments. From his early boxing days in the DMV to winning his first world title, Lamont opens up about his journey, his father’s role in his training, and the drama behind the scenes. Plus — did Tank really try to bite him, and is a rematch already in the works?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of the Art Award, and
today I'm sitting with a young man that's the WBA
one hundred and thirty pounds champion. He is a respective
figure in the game and he's coming off with one
of the biggest, hottest fights of the year. I want
to welcome to the show, brother Lamar Roach.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thank you man, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Man, bro, I appreciate you taking the time. I'll say,
you making your rounds. Man, you ain't got a lot
of rest since the fight. Man, I'm telling like you've
been working. I've been running around a little bit. This
is actually like a different stage for me, you know
what I'm saying. Like, even though I've been champed. You know,
I've been amongst some of the best fighters in the
world for a long time. I've never been been on
this platform where everybody can see me, so I might

(00:42):
as well take advantage of here. Absolutely, Man, you put
on a great performance, and you know, I want us
to start off with the fight, not the details, but
just I know you just you know, you just kind
of went back and watched it. What's your takeaway just
from watching it one or two times after the fight?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Now that you had time to sit with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
My takeaway is, you know, some people might be a
little bit more privileged than others in the ring, uh,
when it comes to the commission, when it comes to judging,
and when it comes to the refs. I think I
performed very well against a highly touted, highly skilled, world

(01:24):
class athlete in itself, Jamont Davis. But I think I
aged them, and I think some of those privileges negated
me a win. So that's how I took it. But
other than that, you know, I think I performed very well.
I executed the game plan.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
To a t.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's what you had in mind, the where you execute, Yeah,
that's what you that's what you're trying for.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's a possible wanted. Yes, sir, we knew it was
gonna happen like that.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You came out with with with the tweets saying a
there may be some action, something's going on, like what
shifted versus what you were originally hearing that made your
tweet that about the decision. So what made me say
something to it was the point that the New York
State Athletic Commission kind of like picked it up and

(02:08):
reviewed it itself.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
So that's why I was like, oh, you know, normally
that don't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
And you know, and the only way it would have
got overturned is if somebody reached out from my camp
or whatever and just to clear this up, because you
know how people are, they like, oh, you got lawyers,
you're suing this, And look as soon as they see lawyer,
they think it's sue or it's a lass suit or
whatever case may be. No, let me put things in

(02:36):
perspective for people. If y'all had an opportunity to have
a win like life change and win to be overturned
due to a fault in the referee or corruption in
the referee. And I said, oh, so I'm not saying
it was corrupt, it was corrupt. Why wouldn't somebody on

(02:57):
your team reach out? Why wouldn't Why wouldn't you look
at your team like they did that on you know,
on their on their own call, Like I mean obviously
they was like, oh, do you know what I'm saying?
We good business for sure, So why would I Why
wouldn't I want to have a team like mine to
you know, press the press the action, especially if they
picked it up they self.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So that's how it happened. That's good business, man.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know, people don't understand what they you know a
lot of these people, I know, they just talking.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You gotta do what you gotta do, because you know,
it's a situation that very well could have got overturned
and probably should have been overturned.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's definitely you know what I'm saying. So, but before we.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Get any deeper into the fighting, and take me back
to your early years, you know, when you first start
boxing and your family life and just kind of how
you grew up.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, I grew up very family oriented.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Me more personally, I was just a you know, if
you ask my mother and father ran Bucksher's kid, or
technically a bad so you know, I was just outside.
I was very competitive from the jump. I was at
sports since I was five years old. I always wanted
to be the best. I thought I could do everything.
I thought I could play baseball, football, basketball, and I did, Actually,

(04:08):
you did all. I did all the sports. And then,
you know, after a couple of fights and in school
and outside of the street, and then they were just like,
all right, you know, we got we got something for you.
So I started boxing and then you know, when I
started I wasn't the best, and I ain't liked that.

(04:30):
I probably got probably like I started spawning two weeks
into being in the gym and then so you know,
my cousin used to tell me, he like, don't worry,
You're gonna get him.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
You're gonna get it. And then like the tie started changing.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
About that that when it hit like a month, that's
that time started changing. I was spawning people with fights,
thirty fights and all. That's a lot to somebody who
don't got no fights. And the time started changing. Then
I was like, all right, I'm really I'm on that.
That's what that's I'm I'm trying to be the so
you know what I'm saying, Like it was cool and
then I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Boxing became my outgrew football as my first look.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Really, yeah, I shouldn't take long. It ain't take ye
was Pop's training early on? Nope, he's a camera man.
Really really for sure, you got all that early footage
when you first started, A lot of you not we
got crates, oh man man VHS.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I ain't that we got DV. I got VHS. I
had a transfer it over the digitally. Yeah, we got
we got we got DVDs.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, yeah, man, transfer that over when you can brought your.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Gold mine, for sure, that's a gold mine. So when
it pop, starts training.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So he started training me. And want to say, mmm,
two thousand and seven. I started boxing at two thousand
and four. My cousin and my cousin, Bernard Boogloo Roach.
He was my trainer from the jump, and he had

(06:09):
his own gym called Fit the Fight, And you know,
when some stuff happened, the gym broke up, split up.
You know, my cousin just went on his own. My
dad was like, you know, the gym splitting up. What
you want to do, Like you don't go with Boogloo
or you're gonna, you know, stay at the gym or whatever.
And I was just like, I'm going with Boogloo, carry

(06:29):
him out all that, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's my people's that's all, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So when we when the gym split, my cousin Boogloo said,
he asked my dad. He's like, look, I need your help.
I want help me train your son. You won't help
me train the rest of these kids that I got.
It's been a rap.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So he's an introduction to being a training for sure.
Been learning from the job. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
What was it about boxing, you know, playing the mother sports?
What was it about boxing A feed you in a
different type of like, what was it? Like I said,
I was driven by being the best I was when
I got to high school. It was even it was like,
all right, I'm gonna play football and still try to box.
I was losing weight trying. I was losing weight for fights.

(07:15):
They was getting bigger, they was, they was eating five
times a day, creating protein shakes all that. So it's
it's it's a little different. I'm looking at it like
I'm number one in the country of my agent weight.
I just wanted a national tournament. I ain't playing football.
Y'all cant miss me with that.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's a thousand people that's number one or number two thousand,
more people better than me at my position than than them,
and they weight bit. Yeah, that's the teams for too.
It ain't nothing like everything being on you. Definitely, yeah,
definitely like that. But you you know you you you
grew up in you know dm V.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I don't know if y'all. I don't think y'all y'all
from here, y'all don't call it the GMV N we do.
We call it the DMV.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's just certain parts of like it's like specifically certain parts,
especially when you're from there. It's more more than likely
DC Maryland and that's like Prince George's County and the
closer county surrounding it, excluding Baltimore and then Virginia. So
you like, you know, being from this this this that region,

(08:18):
bro y'all, they can scrap, they can fight for you.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, And I've seen that just being in the nationals.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know, you you see certain casts, Philly casts pull
up concrete jungle. Then you see DC casts and you
see you know, headbangers. Then you see you know casts
from you know, Detroit and different parts that you start
realizing the man they can rumble. I mean they cool,
they all right, but the man they can go. Yeah,
the who's who's being from like this part of the region,
Like it probably wasn't no average come up for you.

(08:45):
Just like learning how to box, you got to learn
fast because there's some dogs in the gym.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I suppose, right, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
So it's always been, especially since I'm in boxing, it's
always been a hot bed. You got to think our
history is rich with world champions, uh even Olympians and
great trainers and great trainers. So I think, uh, me
coming up in this environment in a boxing game, it's
just you know, perfect, it's shoot it.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It's suited because.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Look at me now, out of my crop, out of
the you know, surround the age groups or whatever the
case may be. Maybe a few before me and a
few after me, look where I'm at. I know you
mentioned a couple of fights, but was you a street cat,
a street fight type of cat, or was you got
a lot of fights at score or did your reputation
keep keep people back? So when I started boxing, it

(09:36):
was like, you know, not not really. I probably got
a few fights after boxing, but that was about it.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It wasn't like yeah, it wasn't like that. I wasn't
too you know what I'm saying into that no more?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
What was the local amateur scene like when you start
moving like not national but local crazy? Yeah, well, younger,
I ain't gonna lie when we got older, huh, y'all
was rumbling? Th oh was but my mind of aunt
like they they're older than you, So you missed did
you miss their way? Yeah? Yeah, for sure I missed
their way for sure, but we were frumbling every weekend.

(10:06):
They wasn't scared to put nobody in no tournaments nothing,
I mean, like.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I thought, so I thought. Lamar and Anthony nephew twice.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
His named Patrick Harris, the son of one of the
tank trainers.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Uh, we fought like we thought twice when we was kids.
You know, it was a it was a lot.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I thought.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I probably fought headbangers I want to say, like six
seven different times as an amateur mm hmmm to the fights.
So yeah, the only two I lost was to him
to to uh book.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So that's my man, though, that's my man. How did
you grow up? Though? You grew up like middle class
or was y'all what y'all had? I grew up? I
grew up not oneing for nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I grew up My parents did, did exactly what they
were supposed to do to provide me with a great life.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm not wanting for nothing, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Especially as a kid, especially now. I always had their
love and support, whether it be financially, emotionally, physically, whatever
the case may be. I just probably had my own choices.
They're probably you know what I'm saying, Like, but so

(11:25):
growing up in the city is just like.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's different.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Or it might not be different. Got two ways you
can go positive or whatever everybody else do. I was
kind of like in the middle. I was growing positive.
But like if you ask my parents, I was so
bad and you have moment stuff, so y for shut.

(11:53):
I was gonna ask you that. That was my next question,
like how did you how did you you know, even
if you don't grow up like in the slums, you
around stuff all the time. So you got cousins, you
got brothers, you got friends. How did you How did
you stop yourself from getting caught up for real?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
For real?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Like so I think that was the thing that see,
seeing my own potential and knowing where I wanted to be, uh,
even though I probably did some of the dumbases in
the world.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Looking back, you like you were tripping.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah yeah, but like you said, it's what you're around.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
That's what I was around all the time, all the time.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I mean, like like you said, my cousins, all my friends,
like all my friends, no disrespect y'all. Most of my
friends being in and out of jail for I don't
know how long I ain't gonna call them jail birds.
They don't like that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

(12:54):
that's the people that I grew up with, the people
I relate to. Cousins said this take died the gun
violence or you know, around it. So I've been there.
I've been there, and I've seen a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I heard you.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't know if it was on your YouTube channel
somewhere else, but I heard you say, Man, I don't
really do nothing. I'd be at the house chilling or
I'm taking collect calls like who calling you from the pen?
My man be count my man Malik. Yeah, yeah, Man Malik,
uh my man. Situation Slim.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don't know, y'all.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I don't want to put his real name out there,
but the situation Slim with your artists whatever. Because he
walked me out for my fight against Fielga McCory. He
back in right now. My man Jiggs just came home.
So it's you know what I'm saying, like, it's it's
it's sad. Malik gonna be in there for a couple
more years. But he used to box with me, and

(13:48):
that's real.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, really used to box with me, man.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So some of the coldest cats man, the world will
never see colors who boxers. I know so many boxers
right now. I'm like, bro, you have way more talent,
like raw talent than me. He just he got off,
He got off and then went astray and then that's
how it caught up.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
That's definitely how it is. And show when I look
at spots like.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know, like like Ohio, like you know, Cleveland breed
nothing but athletes, bro, and that's all it is to do.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
They can fight.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
But I also like, like I know the Cincinnati cast
and the Cleveland cast and they all said the same thing.
They like, Bro, it's crabs in a bucket. Like it's
literally like you start trying to climb out, the city
gonna pull you back down. They're gonna start hating on you.
They're gonna make it hard for you to make it.
Is that the vibe you got being being in the
DMV area?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Is it? Or is it different? Yeah? No, it's both.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's love, but it's love, but it's a whole lot
of it's a whole lot of that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I just got honestly today on the way up here.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I just got some bs that I've seen that I
ain't really take you take too kindly for but somebody
from my city too. But you know, in the build up,
though I know you was isolated in Florida, I believe
you was that you.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Kind of locked in and probably kind of trying to
stay out the way.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
But like, what did you feel did you feel like
they was like you're gonna get knocked out messing with Javontae. Yeah,
most of it. I've seen it, notifications all that, but
you know what, you really gotta worry about them, or
not worried, but that you got to keep a eye
the ones who quiet. What's the ones who don't say
nothing about this fight because you know what they weighing on.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
The result if you win is oh, I knew you
could do it. If you lost, I knew that it
was gonna get knocked out. How you deal with that? Though?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I don't really I don't really care about it because
I got real love, I got real support, I got
real people behind me that really want to see me succeed.
So that's how like, I don't know most of them,
so I don't care. You ain't tripping, I'm not triuting
thing around your city.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I don't really care what they gonna do for me.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Some people, the people after I win, they still like,
you know what I'm saying, like, still don't matter if
if I would have lose, what they're gonna say, Oh,
I told you he was gonna lose.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Man. I know you and Javonte rumble what twice as amateurs?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, when did you first become aware of Javontae Davis
that he was even a fighter?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Probably when I was like ten, So like my first
year boxing forever? What you remember what you was hearing?
Nobody that he was winning? That he was back then?
Was he stopping them? Nah? But he was real.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
He was like, you know, real flashy. He had the
name already. She hain't been had the name tank, so uh,
he was real flascy. He was real flashy.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
He was from Baltimore, so that was a thing too.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
That was just like he stood out because they had
most of the time they had to travel to DC
to fight in our golden gloves, silver gloves, all that stuff.
So we already knew he been good since he been little.
So I was very aware of him since since a kid.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
What is y'all first bump?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Uh? We probably first gotten a ring with each other.
SPA probably like thirteen. He a year older than me,
so he's probably fourteen. I was like thirteen, maybe even twelve,
it depends. But we got a lot of rounds, man.
I didn't know y'all s far. I thought y'all just far.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh yeah, No, we got some. Yeah, we got some rounds. Man. Yeah,
I gotta w take.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Like what you knew about him, even th I was
a long time ago to any of that help you
in this in this fight with him, Tennessee's mannerism, he
liked to do this.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
M mmm.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, but it's more eternal than physical, if you get
what I'm saying. So yeah, like the man, Yeah, it's
a lot of stuff that I win. Is that probably
helped me more outside of what outside of the work

(18:12):
that we had in the fight.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, I'm gonna get to some of that in a minute,
because I got some questions on that. All right, So
you turned pro on twenty fourteen, while you didn't wait
to the twenty sixteen Olympics. It's too long, Yeah, another
two you can n two years? You know what's crazy.
I could have tried out for the because they had
to reload.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I could have I could have went.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
But we had somebody competing in the Last Chance tournament
and I would have had to I would have had
to qualify through the last chance Like my birthday was
on the CUSP where I couldn't go to no other
qualifying tournaments but the Last Chance tournament, and we already
had somebody in there. And he actually made his championship
and lost to rain Now Williams from Ohio.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
But you turned what did you turn pro with? Initially?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Promoti wise manager boy Oscar? Okay, use it there from
the beginning from the jump. Really, Okay, you're.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Not with him my morning. Yeah, did you have a manager? Yeah?
I had at My dad was my manager. Okay, he's
still a manager. Yeah, he's still he's still my manager.
Yeah right now, uh, right now.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
My dad works with Robert Diaz, who's always who's been
the matchmaker, golden boy, but he's always, uh.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Been a handler of my career, who helped build me up.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Him and my dad built me up from the from
the ground up when it came to uh my fights
and who I fought and you know how my career,
how my career turned out.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
And now we're working with Gary Jones as well. So
it's like a like a little powerhouse.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
How involved are you with like the business side, like
you a catain, Like I'm gonna let my dad do that?
Or do you want to know what they're saying? And
you want to wait? I want to know the hotails,
the contract, all.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
That I want to know about that. I do. That's good,
I do, that's good. Yeah, it's my career.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, So what type of businessman that you be giving
in on negotiations? You'll be fighting on na I put
my foot down, but I make I make them say, oh, man,
I don't know if they.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Going there like that.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Your first title shot against Jamel Herring and Fresno, California,
ain't nothing out there but Kyle's brouh Man.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
You know what I'm saying, Man.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
And I called that fight. What's the difference between that
guy and this guy? The guy we just seen face
Javonte Dave, Because to me, the confidence look different.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
You just look like a different fighter. Maybe I'm reading
that wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
A different fighter, Yeah, but only because I am evolved.
I probably I had the same skill set back then,
believe it or not. It's a lot of factors with
Jameil though, h five, five eleven South Paul, and he
had a good team. Yeah, he had a real good team.

(21:03):
They had a good game plan, and he was real awkward.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
So that made for uh, it was just a little
just right there. But in a sense, I mean, like
fast forward into today.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's like I think you even probably said something when
we had the fighter meetings, Like when when we had
the fighter meetings you said you had said something to
the degree of like when it comes that time and
you don't got to take no for an answer, what
you want to do.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's the difference.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
See, I said, Yeah, I ain't taking no for an answer,
but I ain't apply it all the way. I started
too late. After that, I switch click. I couldn't take
no for an answer no more. So that's what it
really And I read somewhere with Pop say you needed that.
Though he ain't say you need it. He said he

(22:02):
said something along the lines of like that made you.
That made my son a better fighter, Like that lost
that that that loss.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Made him better. Yeah, for sure in that in that
area that you're talking about right there. Yeah, that lost man.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
You know, some people some people lost it don't really
affect him like that. They just take it take it
with the wind, like, oh, you know, you win something,
you lose something. But the other people that ain't sit
with you, oh sit with you. Guess who was only
in the back, in the back, yeah, me and my
mom in the corner crying.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Man, it was tough. I ain't gonna low the press
off of that. I ain't no loser, bro, Like you
know what I'm saying, Like, I don't like that. I
don't like that. After the draw was pissed, I ain't
come here for that.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So and that one tough too, because you know you
right there, like you right there? Yeah, you know, and
for everything you getting right now you get your hair right,
it's doubled at in terms of just attention, notoriety, legacy,
all that legacy. Gotta think that's what I'm in it for.
I set goals for myself. Being a two division world champion,

(23:12):
it's on my goalless. Being a two time world champ,
it's on my goalless. I would have knocked both of
them out in one setting. Imagine the possibilities after that.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
What was the reason? Brother?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Like I read some but like the New York State,
I've let it commission. What was the reason they gave
you for not overturning it. So the reason was that
if it would have been to score a knockdown, there's
no definite outcome of how Javonte would have responded or

(23:52):
fought with the remaining rounds to go. What I took
from that is basically, yeah, we messed up, but somebody
gotta take the fall, and it ain't gonna be him.
So like they owned up to it, like alright, we

(24:15):
missed this. They owned up to it.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But they just saying like, alright, we not gonna overturn it,
though we gonna s We're gonna, you know, apologize again
your flowers, but you ain't gonna get what you want.
That's basically what I got from it. And you ain't
hear nothing from the reft. He didn't make no statement.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It ain't making no statement. That was I ain't gonna lie, man,
that was from him. That's sad. A lot of times
that's what the commissions do, though. Man.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
They if something bad happen with a reff they'll protect
the referee. Yeah, and they'll try to get in front
of it and they'll have a spokesperson come out and
it's like yeah, that's cool sometimes, but if you if
you drop the ball like that, and that affects my
my legacy, my my livelihood, Cause you're negotiating for a
rematch right now, so you negotiating from a win versus
a drug.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's two different discussion, different discuss money, way different like,
and that's your that's your mistake.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, you feel what I'm saying. Yep so, but man,
it took you. You know, after the the jamail her
and law. How did you come out of that though?
How did you turn the corner put it behind your safe?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Bro? I gotta, I gotta, I gotta figure it out
and do better.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I had to truly accept the loss, Like it took
me a minute.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I ain't watched the fight after the fight, none of that,
and didn't. I was pissed. I ain't watch the fight
till probably like three weeks later.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Three weeks later, I watched the fight, and I was like,
I could have had this, and you scored the draw.
You was probably the only one that was really you know,
I knew I was gonna lose after the final bail run,
especially when they didn't count that knockdown.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
But when you, like when I watched it and I
saw that you scored the draw.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I was like, this was really a lot closer than
I really, you know what I'm saying, because it's different
in your head, it's different when you're in there and
every like, because it's even with the Tank fight, it
was just.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Like I was really putting it together. You watched it,
washed it washed it.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
So with the Jaman fight, it was just like we
knew we wasn't gonna get that no paper. We knew
that favorite, we knew that top rank show. I was
with Golden Boy. He was a champ Veterans Day Weekend,
that thing. That a whole big thing. It was a
whole It was a huge thing. It's a huge thing.
So they had some some Marines out there and yeah something. Yeah,

(26:40):
they it was all in the ring, and I think
it was like a it was like a like an
anniversary for one of his uh you know, tragedies.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah. So that was a tough one overcome, bro. You
have to knock him out. I had to knock him out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So that was our game plans just you know, I
started too late. That was it, but you know, you
got a second shot, you know, three years later, five
fights later, because Hector Luis Garcia, you finally win that
world title. Bro talk, walk me through that fight and
then would have felt like to get that monkey off
your back. So with that fight again, the odds makers

(27:16):
had me messed up. Uh, just just off the eye test.
I was like, y'all really think he gonna beat me.
I was like, I know I lost to Jamil and
all that stuff, but y'all think he gonna beat me?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Y'all tripping?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was my whole That was my fu I had
a chip on my shoulder the whole camp. I'm like,
they are tripping. So when we got there, you and
then take into account the wins that he had before
and the and the tank fight, even though he got
knocked out, look at the wings he had before in
the tank fight.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
He was rumbling. He was rumbling when he fought me.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Were it was like cat and mouse. I negated all
that off that chump, off the jump. I I set
everything up with the jab pressing. Even after the fight,
he was like, he didn't allow me to do anything.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
It was that mental pressure and it was definitely me,
me being busy, and I cracked him a couple of times.
I cracked him a couple of times the future. I
thought it was gonna go out, but you got sneaky power.
But like when you know, I heard Javonte say he
can crack. But like when you see you sometimes it don't.
It don't seem like you cracking. Yeah, you really watching
though you see that stuff landing heavy. You could just

(28:32):
see it's landing heavy. But you can easily overlook it too. Yeah,
if you're not really paying attention, especially if you look
at the numbers, that's what that'd be. I think that's
an upside for me. Now I don't really care about it.
It's a try because yeah, but with that feel like
man to get that stride bro.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Finally after your second.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Try, it was like one of the best feelings in
the world. I ain't gonna lie, not trying to be
dramatic or nothing like that. It's just like.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
It was like, who, like, all right, we're here now.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
We actually scratched off the first accomplishment my goal list,
Like that's it and I couldn't. You gotta think my
dad was right there too. It's just like we did it.
We did it, we did it, we did it. Like
even before they announced the me the winner. When they
say that last score, I was like, it's nowhere in

(29:23):
hell that they scored that many rounds for him.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I said, that's good saying. We going with that. So
I was man, I was geek.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
It felt different when you got back to the city.
You felt the love you felt.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I felt the love. I felt the love Michelle, I
felt the love. It was like, even I hater, gotta
give you a nod or something.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Man, you come home with that, it's like they've been
waiting on the tooth man, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You know, you come back to your home time. Not everybody,
but some people showing you love what they just because.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
They got they got there. Ain't got no choice. I
don't really look like I hate if you don't.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
If you don't, you know, yeah, it's part of the game.
It was crazy when you start getting win, when we
first start getting rubbers about the Javonte Davis.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Finally when you start hearing like this might good thing.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Uh, I'm gonna tell you like this. I kind of
figured we was gonna run into each other some way, somehow.
When he won his first title for a real yeah,
was he around the same way. Yeah, it's round the

(30:30):
same way he won at one. Yeah, he won at
one thirty. I was fighting at one thirty. Obviously he
was already at the championship level. He got he got
catapauled up there by doing what he was supposed to do,
knocking everybody out that they put in front of him,
got Floyd behind them.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I was, you know, I was on the hush.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I was coming up though his small guy knew he
wasn't gonna go too far, so and I knew he
can rumble. I knew that he'd be as I'm not
surprised at how good he is or what he's done
to other people. So I knew that we was gonna meet.
Even one time I actually seen him at a pool party.

(31:10):
It's outside of boxing or whatever the case may be.
I was getting ready for Jamail. He was already champed.
He was like the hand of that business man, you know,
make some money together. So you ain't gotta tell me
twice it was supposed to be. So it's just like
all the signs was there, All the signs was there.

(31:31):
All I needed was, you know, that first world title
or whatever the case may be, that can put me
in that conversation when he for Hector, little dude. A
lot of people know. I got to call for that
fight too. It was a little crazy, but I got

(31:53):
to call for that fight to fight Javon or Hector
to fight if I was already a mandatory for Hector.
They was looking them for opponents for him or whatever
the case may be. He might be on the scramble,
whatever the case may be. They didn't get a big
fight like they wanted to. So that's why he went
to thirty and see if Hector wanna fight. But I
did get the call though, and of course we said yes,

(32:15):
we just didn't get a call back.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
See, y'all was like a backup. I wouldn't say a backup.
You never know how serious it was.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Hector was the champ already, so I guess that would
look better than fighting me.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
No belt, my number one.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Contender, but no belt, no pedigree to one hundred and
thirty five. You know, somebody say the best at one
thirty five at the especially at that.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Time, he was definitely like number one.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
So so you first started, you first got that call,
like was it?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Joe POPSA said, hey, they they they call him again?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
In the cars in the car togethers that Tampa. Uh,
we went to go see uh the Commander's play the bucks.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
We was on our way back home and he was
on the phone.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
So you know, I'm I'm right here, ear hustle husban,
I'm right here, ear hustling. I'm like, oh, this isn't
like some business. So it's sound like some business hardway took.
Get off the phone, I'm like, what's up? Like that
was that was TGB and and Tank team saying, ask
if y'all wanna do the fight? I say yeah, so

(33:23):
wait So then like when it really like when we
really started talking business, that's when we started weighing the
options for real, for real then, cause I did have
something on the table.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Uh, I had some on the table.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
So people think I'm taking this flight for money, That
wasn't the thing because I actually had a offer that
was higher than the Tank fight. Oh for real, Yes,
to defend my belt. So so for all the people
who think I was it, oh he doing it for

(33:57):
a check, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I just wanted to shut people. I mean, that's going
to check.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
We ain't doing it just for the check, doing it
just the check? But trust me, because they don't forget
this is its prize fighting. It's prize fighting for a reason.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Absolutely. But I did have a I did have.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
A better offer, but just like I ain't worried about
that because look at the upside.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well get that back. One, it is a bad.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
But two, look at what they're gonna look at what
they consider him now, the most dangerous fight, one of
the most dangerous fighters in the world, one of the
highest knockout percentages.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Amongst boxing pound for pound talent.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
And me on the other hand, coming up from one
thirty to one thirty five to fight this monster. That's
gonna make me a two division world champ, that's gonna
make me two time world champ, and that's.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Gonna put me in the pan with the pan talks
at least talks. Why not. I know what I'm capable of.
So and this is what we've been working for.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Anyway, Dang what almost I could have smoked that dude,
then the opportunity be gone.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Nah, that didn't come back. It's a window. Opportunity is
always closing day by day. So y'all, how was the negotiations?
Was he taking everything?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
It's just saying like, look, bro, be happy with this
or did you have you can wheel and deal a
little bit?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Basically? Yeah, basically we tried. I tried, Like I don't know,
I'm like telling him throw me a couple more dollars
or something.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Then like, but it is what it is. You know
that you know how it get to to get to
pay per view numbers. He was gonna go on with that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I tried. So you can tell me whatever you want
to tell me about this. But some people do say,
you know, they like man, they homeboys.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Man, he cool, like he just chucked him a bad
like just on some friendship type stuff like they making
money together or was it the way you just pretty.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Much described it like nah, like we got history. But
this wasn't no planned event. Yeah, not for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I got the call and I said, yeah, we rumbled
for show. Yeah that may seem like he just did
his homeboy favorite. I mean, if he did, I appreciate it,
but it wasn't like talked about though.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I mean I figure as though I did enough to
where I could be in a conversation where he can
fight me. And that's me like taking myself outside of
my body and not looking at my not being big
headed like there's somebody that's that a lot of people
consider better than you. He's big, bigger than you in

(36:48):
a higher weight. But I'm here, I'm in the talks.
So and if he did like I said, I would
do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Why not? Why not? You on top of your game,
you're doing this, you do that, especially if you not,
especially if.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
You didn't have a high profile fight like that yet.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Why that's a good look. That's a good look. That's
what we're supposed to do. That's if that's what we
supposed to.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Do given an opportunity. Yep, that's what we should do.
More often. People don't get that. Floyd did it a
couple of times. A bunch Jimmy ellis a whole bunch
of people. I mean, I'll get you, know, I'll fight you.
He knew he was gonna make a big bag and
put him in a position. Ain't gonna let you beat me,

(37:38):
but I'm gonna get shot though.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But that's that's the thing. People running with this narrative
over he was being eyes. He was doing that's a
dressing room.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
What what they say took it easier on you?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
What Let me address some rumors which I think is
true too. But they say he's supposed to fight Jake
Paul next after he was supposed to clean me up.
Jake Paul gonna guarantee you about forty million. If the
fighters with a notable person with his tame.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Why would he take it easy on me? Why would
he sacrifice that?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Especially if you talking about retiring and that's his exit playing.
If that's the case, why would he do that?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's just that baffles me. Now as a fighter, as
a let me ask.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
You, would you ever sacrifice what you work so hard for,
your record, your legacy, chance to be wanted to come on?
That's all right, I'm gonna leave it at that. I
That's what I'm saying. It might be somebody after that,
would I ain't the guy.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
It ain't him. So it didn't look like y'all was
playing with each other down in that fight. Though.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It looked like you was trying to hurt him, and
Bro looked like he was trying to hurt you. That's
what I seen show. But when I seen the first
press conference, first one was in DC, right, New York,
New York.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Tell me if I'm.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Reading this right, like when I watch a fight, when
like I'm I'm you know, I be, I be on
that psychological I'm trying to see how the psychological warfare
is going on. So I'm watching body language. I'm listening
to what's being said, seeing if it's believable. You know,
I'm I'm seeing all that. I'm just watching. When I
seen y'all in the same vicinity, it looked like it
was a mutual respect. It looked like it was clear

(39:33):
y'all had history, but it I didn't see him playing
with you the way he played with the mother.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Guys and put his hands on you.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
But I also didn't see you trying to do too
much either, Like you stood your ground in terms of
just you know.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Whatever you had to say. It seemed like it was
a mutual respect. Like, man, it's deep respect here.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But sometimes you get the best fights when you got
that type of situation.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Why didn't he play with you like he played.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
With some of the mother guys. And I don't want
nobody to take this the wrong way, but.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
He knew me.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
There's a mutual respect for a reason, just like I
want to go out there and try to play with
him same it's the same way other way around.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Like one man respect.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Man, I don't really play like you know what I'm saying,
play too many, I don't give. I don't care if
it's to hype a fight up, but I don't play
like that. There's certain things you don't do this. It's
a lot of stuff you don't keep your hands on. Yeah,
it's gonna get other, but again, there's a high level
of mutual respect for each other. Like I said, we're
bumped into each other plenty of times, oh more than
an average boxer would see another boxer outside of boxing.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So that's cool. Like he cool with me and I'm
cool with him.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So that's that's you know what I'm saying, Like if
we were to see each other outside of our competition,
it's what's up, what you want?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Even after even after the fight, I even after that,
I don't he changed his number. I tried to call him.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I tried to call him. He changed his number.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
So you don't go throughout camp too before message nah,
but before before the fight got postponed, he did call
me one time and I was like, you know, what's up?
Like he like what's up? He like, you've been in
the gym. I'm like, yeah, you've been in the gym.

(41:31):
So so he's like, nah, I he't asked me about
my family, how my family doing. I asked how you
doing and all that stuff. So you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's how it was. That's how it was.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh, you think he was asking if you've been in
the gym and then shift to the family. See, that's
the thing. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I don't know, but that's then the fight got postponed.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
That's the one I was supposed to be in Houston.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
That was I was supposed to be him in Houston
in December, but I kind of figured I put too
and two together. His birthday was like a month before
the fight. Then he was still having fun. He just
came from Paris his birthday coming up. So I knew
he wasn't gonna be ready, especially when they didn't announce
like no, like no press or no they announced when

(42:13):
a press conference was gonna be or whatever case may be,
something like when they gonna make another announcement about something,
so we gotta push back. I just me personally, it
could be something else, but me personally, I just think
he wasn't ready. So if you ask about if if
it's still like that now, then yeah, I mean like

(42:36):
I try to call him and I tried to dal
him too, like you seen me call you called me back,
or if you change your number just him, it's probably
a little bit hotter now.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I think you think he probably.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
If you want, all right, We're gonna put it out
there like this because a lot of people is telling
me something like some of the same things. Some people
feel like, oh, he gave me an opportunity, and now
I'm just dragging.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Him through that.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
How I'm dragging them. I ain't say nothing bad about you.
I thank you multiple times the lead up after the fight,
like I appreciate that. I did not say you was
a trash fighter. I ain't say you ain't had no chin.
I ain't say you was slowly personal. I ain't say
note personally.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
All I did was highlight my own doings, my performance.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
How I'm dragging somebody if I'm only talking about my performance,
I don't get that. And a lot of people in
my comments too, oh you need to think, hey, you anything.
Oh if y'all paid attention, I thank them a lot,
and I thank them in that ring with our performance.
So what y'all about to rumble again, though we ain't
like maybe we would be cool later.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
What I'm on right now, that's not what I'm on
for sure. I'm trying to get this money right to here.
We can run this bag. Yeah that's it.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, I got something I got, I got I ain't
get the job done. I gotta I gotta complete the mission.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Shut up.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
So I mean, that's what we're in it for. Yeah,
that's what we're in it for. So that's that's what
I'm on.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
When I watched your I watched her probably like three
maybe three of your episodes of tailor what was it
called the Reapers tal All.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I guess good man, I did a good job with
that than.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Similar to the press conference when I seen when I
seen the footage, I'm like bro saying like he like
his mind made up. You know, you see a lot
of pump faking, man, and buy a lot of rye
rye a lot of times that stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Man, as soon as that pressure hit, you see a
different side.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
But I'm like, he ain't too high, like, oh I'm
about to but he wasn't you You didn't seem like
the moment, you know, even as even as even as
the fight got closer. That's when he start getting real.
You two weeks out. A week out, you start seeing
cats look different and talk different. You look like you
just look settled, like I know what I'm getting into
and he better know what he getting into it. It was
like a balance approach, and I was like, he gotta

(45:07):
show it, but like he seemed like he ready.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
But that's what I've been trying to tell everybody, and.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
You were saying it, I've been I'm saying it the
whole time. I've been telling him that's what That's what
people don't get. I've been trying to tell him from
since they announced the fight. I've been saying the same thing.
I've been on the same path, the same path.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
He better be.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Ready because I know what I'm come to do. I
know what I'm prepared for, and I know what I
can do. I knew that the lights wasn't gonna affect me.
I'm not wanting them like and I know people like
you said, people say what don't affect them and what
you ain't gonna know till you get that, you ain't

(45:47):
gonna know what you say anything you want all act
like I've been there before, even though I have it, brother,
them lights hit you and you start.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Looking at that crowd like I ain't never seen as
many people to fight Brouhe, whatever's in you gonna come out.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
And if you got some turn in you or if
you not as confident as you've been trying to, we.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Don't see it. You're gonna see. We're gonna see. I'm
telling you now. He now, I was trying to figure
this out. You gotta help me.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
With it, with the with the with the d M
V DC Maryland politics. I don't know how it worked
burying him. That's my guy, man. I love I love
all the head bangers, and I just talked to them
out the other day.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
For sure, came up with them guys. Man.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
But and I know he from what I understand, like
he's been over there training with them.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
So did you feel any type of way with with
with DC helping Baltimore get ready for DC. No? And
I'm no, just straight just straight up no.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
But it's because I wouldn't put it past them because
I know.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
That they have history.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Okay, So like it was just like a might have
been the slightest surprise, but when I heard when I
got word or heard, like when it was rumors, I
was like, oh, he over there.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I uh I I figured that.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But as the fight went on, I mean like as
the as the build up went on and stuff like that,
I was just like I was confused. I was like, well,
what Colbin is. I'm like, something made right cause.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
You ain't seen him. Then I seen him at the
DC press conference, but he wasn't on stage.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
But he was he at New York too. The he
wasn't at New York mm M, and you seen him
in DC.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I seen him in DC, but he wasn't on so
he wasn't on stage. So I was like, might be
a little me, might be a little trouble with Paradise. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Then I see online plastered all four of the coaches there.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I'm like, you gotta get a super team to beat me.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I was like, well, yeah, we got them. I was like,
we got them. They gotta build the Avengers. They need
the Avengers to come beat me. And then taking it
back to kid Bangers, I got ready for my last
two fights kind of like over there at the jam,
like we was coming over there for Spawn and stuff

(48:20):
like that, so like it's strictly spawn.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
So they seen me work. It's like a reccent over.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
There, right every year it's a boys and it's a yes,
it's a erect, it's DPR, it's a direct. So they
seen me spa them there. If I did. If I
did like a hundred rounds, they probably seen sixty. So

(48:47):
that's why I was like, all right, maybe they want
to they want some insight, but I promise you the
only insight they was gonna get from them rounds.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Is that I'll be beating people. That's it, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
And I think that probably would help him more. They
gonna be like, ah, you better not bored it because he.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
He he gonna put it on you if you if you,
so I think that might have helped.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I felt like Javonte knew though, like you know, I
think I feel like he was real about what he
was dealing with. Of course he felt. He probably felt
like he tried to tell the people too.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
He said it, he d he definitely did.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
They was trying to, you know, talk down on the fight,
and he was like, nah, man, he can crack.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
He started naming all the stuff he tough.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
He hears that he knew, but he probably you know,
at the same time for a punch er. You you
that's the gift in the curse of being able to
crack like that as you you believe everybody gonna fall. Yeah,
even if you give him credit, you believe when I
hit him the right way though, he gonna go.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
What was your read on Javonte going into the fight
him personally as you watched him, did did media with
him and just seeing while he was.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Moving, I would, I would so me m.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I wasn't trying to get too too into what could
be in his camp.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
In our camp, we.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Put it out there up front Front Street, were preparing
for the best Javonte Davis that's gonna ever show up
in the ring. All the things he do good, we're
gonna amplify it, and we're gonna be prepared for that.
I wasn't hoping that he was slipping or you know,

(50:41):
that he was down, or whatever the.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Case may be.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But like I said earlier, when I say about some
of the interactions or like the familiarity, I said this
in one of the I want to say PBC interviews
or whatever. I think he doubt itself. I think that
was in the gloves off. I think he doubt hisself.
Hell of a talent, hell of a puncher, super super

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super good accuracy.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think that's what leads to the most of his.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Knockouts, honestly, But he doubt hisself and he been doing
that since a kid.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Some you know, that's just something I know.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
So that played the That played a little a little
bit into the into the fight. I think when especially
when there's not a lot of animosity, because you got
to think a lot of people he fought, they just
have differences so that they be into it or whatever
the case may be. I don't got no problem with him,
and he don't got no problem with me. So I
think he was trying to find something to boost his

(51:48):
morale or get him going, or whatever the case may be.
And he tried to like like the betting me that
he's gonna knock me out and stuff like that. That
they didn't go too too well for him, is y'all
bat Oh we bet and we sugar on it.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
He changed his number, got that chip? He got that Yeah,
got that chip? He changes number slim yeah h m hm.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
So you know, but that'd be a conversation for another day.
I think he I think that's where he tried to
use to.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
To get hisself going, and like he ready and all
this and all that turn. Man, you look like you
had a great camp. I did that.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Ain't guaranteed going into a big fight something that you
have a bad camp and everything go wrong. But that
didn't look like that was a case for you.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I had a great camp. Some bad things happened. I
ain't gonna lie. You can ask my man Brady when
my camera man, he didn't saying it.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
He stayed. He was out there seven weeks straight. I
cut that out of the thing. Man. Yeah, A couple
bad things happened. I ain't gonna lie. A couple bad things,
but we got it together.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Uh. A lot of people don't know. I had to
flew a week before the fight. How many days I
ain't I had it flu Probably like four. I ain't
get better till five days after. I really after I
got said, mind you, it's the leading up to the fight.
Weeks I was I was one what like one.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Seven?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I was one forty seven, like five days before the fight.
Dang past six days before the fight, I couldn't. I
couldn't work out. I was down bad.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
How you get it off.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
It's work, a lot of water, hell out of water.
The work, just you know, trusting the process that we have,
eating super super super clean now because making one one
thirty five was so easy for me, but I did.
I definitely had the flu man, I was it was concerning,

(54:18):
especially when my dad was like, not your dress. I
was like, you sure, you don't want me to work out?

Speaker 2 (54:26):
You like, just dress. You ain't gonna get better. If
you work out, You're not gonna get better.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yeah, but that was one of the few things that
was That was one of the few things that went bad.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
And then another thing. I'm'na tell y'all haveter rematch.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I'm'a tell y'all after the rematch, that's gonna be that's
gonna be a big story.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I'll tell y'allw to the rematch.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
After that, Man, that that first bell rings, start walking
me through that fight?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
What you feeling with you sensing?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
You know, like it's it like you know, that's that's
the biggest crowd you ever been in front of, the
biggest event you ever been.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
A part of.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
And from what I saw, like I said, even with
the build up, I didn't see a scare of fighter.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I didn't see if.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Of course you got nerves, you know you're a huge Yeah,
but it's how you manage them. And it seemed like
he wasn't playing from the jump, and so start walking
me through, marking me through that fight, after that first bill,
after the first ball, was just like, like I said, man,
my vision be so tunneled. I think I'm in the
fight before the fight even start. I visualized a fight

(55:26):
thirty thousand different hey lot, thirty thousand different ways. I mean, like,
it's a whole lot that I that I visualized. But
once you were there, it's like, all right, let me
see what he got and let me see if he
can handle what I got.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And that was the whole thing from the jump, like
your power in his power? Who can take it? Who
could take it? For show?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
And I just wanted to be assertive of like from
the jump, I ain't want to I ain't want to
take a step back for him to gain some confidence.
Uh now, whether it be strategical or not, that's cool,
but I definitely didn't want to give him no type
of edge.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I know that the crowd was gonna be protank for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I even told him that in the ring, like why
they yell and stuff like that when you throw a punch.
While he was fighting, I was like, I'm like, why
they so loud when you punch and then but when
I punch you, they don't do nothing. So it was
just like but it's just like maintaining, like all right,
this is what we this is what we're here to do.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Just execute, execute, execute, execute execute.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
My dad was coaching his ass off in that corner,
doing the fight everything, and it's just like a.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
To me.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
It's just like because it's not a switch that turns on, cause,
like I said, I'm already in the fight before the
fight starts. I got one goal, one objective. So when
it when it comes down to for real, don't really
see the crowd. I ain't see the crowd until I
looked at the video. Then I was like it was
sold out to like to the team. So I'm like

(57:13):
the low output really like we kind of expected it
in the in the beginning from him, from from him,
because I knew he was going to try to like
try to bait me, try to bait me or whatever
occasion would be. But we knew that we would have
to try to at least be active and be controlling

(57:35):
with the ring to win those rounds. After the first round,
I was like, all right, it's a fill out round,
but how can anybody score that around for him?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
When he ain't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I was the aggressor, and I knew I was gonna
be the aggressor from that from the whole camp. Yeah,
you did that, the whole camp I was gonna be.
I knew I was gonna be the aggressor the whole camp.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I've been in there with guys who gonna punch bigger
guys and stuff like that, So we prepared the right way.
We had many looks, we had different looks. We had
short months and we're like super We had.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Midget in there.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
We had a guy that fights at forty seven but
was not really like he was nowhere near his camp,
so he's probably like sixty eight, big, big, a lot
of a lot of unfurnished shots. And then we had
a speedster, a little a very very very athletic fighter

(58:33):
too that just match all his tangibles and we put
it together. Man, it's just like, all right, some of
this stuff is looking like some of it we've been
doing in the jail.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
So it's just like, all right.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Then I knew it was gonna get to a point
where his corner is gonna tell him he needs to
pick it up.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
That's my game. That's my game right there. Well round
you think that was when we did that, probably.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Like probably like fourth probably like five six, like five six.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
And then when he actually like.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
When he actually like hit me clean, I was like,
all right, if that happened again, is it gonna be
like this? So so I was like, if it's gonna be,
I'm like, let's let's let's test this out again, not

(59:29):
just get hit, but like let's.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
See let's see what he Let's see what he's working with.
Low of you.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Not after he told me. He told me he was
like I hit him with like a clean body shot.
He was like, I thought you harder than that.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I was like, fuck, I thought you hit harder than that.
You would knockout on That's what I told him. I'm
like you, I said, I thought you were harder than that.
I said, I thought you hit harder than that.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
And then he was like, oh, I see the brown
in there. He was like watch. He was like, I
went back to the corner. I was like, I got him.
I was like, I got him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
He the next round he came out, he tried to
hit me hard. I seen it. I seen it end.
You can go back and watch the tape.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
He threw like a like a big left I blocked
it or whatever. But he hit me with two body shots,
but he tried to throw them with all this mic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I was like, it's over. I was like, it's over.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
The only way he gonna get me is if he
get me, and that's gonna be like with an accurate
punch or whatever the case ain't be, that's gonna land
on it. But you wasn't afraid for that to happen. You, Yeah,
you didn't seem like you were. One thing I thought
you did real good was you answered almost every time
he got off. Every time he got off, he was
righting right, baby, And everything didn't land clean, but a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Of stuff did. And like that's that's a silent message.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
That's not it's silent, but it's not so silent like
the fighters feeling like dang. And a lot of time
he would get up, he'd get off and he'll just relaxing,
boomom boom. You'll get off like that. Ain't that type
of party tonight. Yeah, that was the game plan or
you did is that on the fly adjustment you makee Nah?
That's uh, that wasn't necessary a game that was more AQ.

(01:01:13):
He's a big he's he's a star. So when they
see that he do something, they can probably be like, oh,
that affected him because they know he's a knockout puncher.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
They know that. Nah, it ain't happening like that, like
it was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
But I'm right back and you gonna see what I
You gonna see what I do to him, especially people that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Not expecting me. Y'all gonna see that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
The judges might think that too, like you know what
I'm saying, Like, you gotta think in hindsight. To win
a twelve round fight, boxing is about perception. Got three
people scoring the fight. If he finished a combination with
some big punches or something that look like it affected me,

(01:01:57):
they gonna be like he got that momy ah, But
that one, that one I was. I was trying to
answer a boy, but I was trying to get off too.
I was trying to rumble. I ain't gonna lie, but
I've been telling people that I'm like I'm gonna get
this I'm gonna get this party like cracking. If he not,

(01:02:18):
I am so. If he ain't had no answer, then
that's why I told. I told somebody perfectly. I said,
if I'm gonna beat that out of him, or it's
gonna be fight of the year, because it's gonna make
him bring his skill out, it's gonna make him bring
his bag out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I said that with one hundred percent confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
When he took the knee with knife round, knife round, Well,
what are you thinking when he took the knee?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Did you was he blinking before he took the knee?
Did you see he had some of his eyes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
No, that's the thing or this whole fight, That's what
I'm saying, this whole fight. You don't see him wipe
at his eye. You don't see him blink, you don't
see him do none of that after the beginning of
the ninth round. You know, I had a very good
beginning of the ninth around two people forget that. I
hit him with a lot of punches. I was busy.

(01:03:05):
He didn't really return when I hit him with that jad.
I hit him with a grazing blow before that, like
my right hand. He rolled with it and probably barely
hit him, but that kind of bothered him too. So
that's when you could see him wipe out his eye.
The correspondent, I though, the one that I punched with
it hit him in the other eye and he wiped it.

(01:03:28):
When I hit him with the JAD, he wiped his eye,
looked at the reft, backed up, took a knee.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I better not a knock that. He started count now,
started counting. Then he stopped. He stopped and stopped and
then look.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Not not only that told him, told him, because they
picked it up on the mic. You can't do that, oh,
he told He told him that you can't do that
because it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Looks like it looked like a knockdown. Looks what do
you mean, looks like it is. Took a knee. Took
a knee, Terry, just because he told you, hold on,
I was getting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I ain't never seen nothing like that in no fight.
I've seen people take a knee like Floyd did it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
That's the one everybody point to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
But I ain't never seen nobody taking no knee and
go get their eyes wiped in the middle of the fight.
That's like something you might do and spawn, something you
might do, Yes, something you might do like I ain't
gonna take a knee, but I'll go wipe my eye.
Hold on right, vocal, hold on, hold on like I
got something in my eye.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Hold on, hold on real quick. But this is just
sparring though.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Yeah, I ain't never seen nothing, no real fight. Though,
I ain't never seen nothing, no real fight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Tragic right, Yeah, you can't, you know, man, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Look, bro, it's a humicide to this, this judging thing,
and that's a humicide to this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
What the refs do. But y'all, y'all gotta get it right.
You playing like they like, you're playing with people's livelihood.
What that means. That means that if.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
You make the right call, my money go up. If
you make the wrong call, my money go up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
And not like it. Shit, that's my life. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Loss of wages if people want to get technical, Yes,
loss of wages because you broke your own rules, like
y'all create the bylaws and the rules. Y'all broke that, yes, sir,
in front of the world at that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
So that's the problem I'll be having with that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Man, it'd be tough because you know, you go to
show people some grades like man, okay, whatever, But like,
if it's a clear rule that you you can't break,
you can't you can't break that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
It just is what it is. Nobody feel about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
And what's that doing to the integrity of our sport too?
That's crazy people get favoritism. What was something he was
doing in there where you was like that's nice? What
was he doing that was working for him? That was
giving you trouble? I know, y'all might run that thing back,
so you know, just being just he's a lot faster

(01:05:55):
than people think he is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
And he twitchy, he explosive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Yeah, he he got a good He got a he
got a good eye.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
He like his his twitches. You never know. A lot
of his A lot of his previous knockouts was off
there boom, I mean, and they was brutal. So he
got a good eye for Boston. He got a good
box of mind too, good. Yeah, for sure, he got

(01:06:27):
a good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
He was in good shape. That you hear him breathing,
and he was in good shape, got you. I hope
he was in good shape. I hope he think he
was in good shape. That's all I'm gonna say. What
about his physical strength, punch of power, different than physical
strain when you lock up. He's too small, Yeah, too small.
You just said that man, too small, bro, y'all in

(01:06:49):
the same word class.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I mess. That's a new way class, a new way
class for me. That's what I'm saying. Y'all was that
night y'all was in the same way class.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
He still feel like too small? He was too small,
dang fad, no disrespect, no nothing, it's just too small.
I've been in there with some big guys. I do
a lot of work that prepares me to be grounded
and be strong in the inside, uh, getting positioned, stuff

(01:07:25):
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
But his power make up the difference for all that
skilled actory. I could see something unbelievable. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
It takes skill, bro, take a i Q to builder
see something and then land something like where you need
to land.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
You know, his accuracy is unbelievable. I ain't gonna lie
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
I'm a boxing fan, so like I I don't seen,
I don't seen them to put them dudes away. After
the fight. What you're thinking, last bill ring? What you're thinking,
oh we oh my god, after the last bill I'm like,
oh yeah, Like we were coming home with this, but

(01:08:08):
you know, like I said, it's different in the ring,
but and and that's the difference. I felt like I
felt like I was like, I felt like I just
got finished fight in the eight to full fight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
I felt like I felt like I'm like dog. Even
if they get it wrong to where the margin, I said,
you still felt like way? I said, there's no way.
But when they announced the first school card for him,
that's when they that's when it really got me. And

(01:08:52):
they said, for Davis, you know normally that's coming, but
split decision. More than likely, it's coming to split decision
or majority draw.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
They said for Davis, I said, oh my god, I
want m hmm. I said, They're gonna give me a
split decision win. I was like, like we coming home fast.
Say it's come home again. They said one fourteen one fourteen,
said do that? I said, oh man, But then I

(01:09:27):
was like no, because.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
After that, after they say one fourteen one fourteen, immediately
it took me back to probably like the eleventh the
eleventh round or twelfth round.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
He was skating around the ring. He was like, what,
you ain't gonna win? He said that what? Yes? He
said you ain't gonna win. I'm like, why not, Like
they ain't gonna give it to you. Dan. I was like,
all right, hmm, so.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I seen you do the watch back. Did he bite you?
Did he bite you? He tried to bite you? I see,
So that's what I couldn't really tell. It looked like
he I couldn't really tell. So when he was in
the locker room and we this is probably like what
after the postpresser. We was in the locker room. My
father told me. He was like, I ain't try to

(01:10:26):
bite you. I say, boy, like I'm in the ring.
That's something that you would know happened.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I said, no. He didn't like you, like, what's going
on with you? You tripp me?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
I don't remember that, Like I just I got punched
a few times, but I ain't crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
He like, nah, he really tried to bite you. I'm like,
how you know? Showed me he couldn't pull it up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
But when I went back and watched the fight, I
was like, because I wasn't even thinking about it no more.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
It's probably like a day later I seen. I was like,
that's what he's talking about. And then you can hear.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Ronaldo moral Ronaldo say, compare him to Mike Tyson with
some biting stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
He said that on air, Yes, he said.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
He's more like he's more like Mike Tyson than other
and in other ways as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
We don't want to talk about that comparison to Mike Tyson.
That's a live stick with him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yes, So that's why I was like, all right, I'm
not tripping because they seen it too. Then my sister
told me, she's like, she's like, nah, I ain't gonna lie.
Seen that during the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
So I'm like, how I miss that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
But obviously because he didn't bite him, Yeah, he got
the mouth he's saying too. So it's just like, obviously
he didn't bite me, but it looked like nine times
out of ten, that looks like he tried to bite me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Did you see the clip? I did? I did, so,
I don't know, but I'm leaning towards damn. Did you
really try to bite me? It was crazy? So after
the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Post did y'all say anything after the decision was read?
Did y'all have any other words before y'all left the ring?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
That's it? Yeah, it was cool. You can fight. No,
that was it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Postfight press conference, he was talking like, you wasn't gonna
get the next He was like, yeah, probably gonna be next.
And then you was like, I want it, but if not,
I'll fight Shakur. Right, you said that, right, A lot
of people ain't saying they're gonna fight your cor Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
And then I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
A week later, a couple days later, y'all start having
you know, words on social and then he said what
he said about I'm about to push for the fight.
You like, you can't push for the fight, it's mandatory.
Did y'all start talking negotiating for this second one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Right after that? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, okay, definitely. You ain't got to get into all
the details. But is it which way we're trending?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Is it in the right direction or something's gotta happen
before we go in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
We trending in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
We were trending in the right direction. I hope we can.
I hope we can make an announcement. So okay, I hope,
I hope we have a decision. So that's all I'm
gonna say. But we've been trending in the right way.
I think gonna get that, I think so, I think
it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Get after I don't. I think it's the only way
it's happened. Yeah. How many rematches that you fought in
your pro career? Zero? What do you have to do
to create enough separation? What is don't happen again? Or
you yeah, enough separation, just don't happen again? Who that's
a good question. It definitely be based off of Yeah,

(01:13:58):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
I gotta put mysel So it's gonna be based on
my training camp. I have to push myself a little
harder if that then get me to win, and I
have room.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I definitely have room. I'm not gonna lie. I have room.
You believe you you fought the best Javonte or do
you think he got a fact?

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
I think he might have some more giars, But I
fought the best Jamonte that night. I don't want people
to get.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
It misconscrewed or whatever case.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Maybe he's a hell of a fighter, h hell of
a IQ, great punch of power, good speed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
And a really good boxing ability. A lot of people
underrate that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Don't think because of what I did, y'all think y'all
can just go in there and think y'all can have
the same night, you know what I'm saying, or do
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
He still will.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Will go upside your head and crack you, and you
know what I'm saying, you might end up on the floor.
Everybody not built the same. And that's what people people
getting messed up. A lot of people talking down like, oh,
he did it well. Some because he still got a
super fan base that's saying that he's gonna take my
head off and damn it killed me in the rematch,

(01:15:11):
But they like, don't get it, don't get it. He
did a whole lot of things that was good in
that fight, a whole lot. And I'm telling you right now,
if he wasn't as good of a fighter as he was,
that would have been you know what I'm saying, Oh

(01:15:31):
what I would have steam rolled him. So it's like,
don't get don't get that misconscrewed. He's still the guy
he is. It's just he ran into a guy that's
on the same level. How much has your life changed
since this fight? Even though it wasn't the win you

(01:15:53):
want it, But you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
That's a crazy thing. I didn't even win. I had
a draw.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
I gotta walk around with my man, you know, hitting
my security detail.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Like it's different now, I probably like there's so much attention.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I can't move away. I moved before. It's just like,
even though.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You you think a city love you, it's like it's
still those guys looking at you like, oh, he just
got a bad crash out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
It's different.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
It's a lot more people that are vocal about how
they've been supporting me too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
What you may.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I try to tell him, so you know, it's a game.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
They can't come with it for sure, And it's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
A good problem to have. You could have a problem
of right like, nobody paying attention, and you're still gonna
deal with life. You're still gonna deal with some I hate,
You're still gonna deal with some stuff. But you could
deal with the problem of being elevated and dealing with
more hate and more you know, just just issues.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Bro, just just stuff you gotta deal with, you know.
But at the same time, for all of that, it's
all it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
A lot of love too, And that's one thing that
we got to always remember. Yes, hate, but that became magnified.
I hate it is what it is you all over
there and I got a lot of love doing they
and they've really been rocking with me from the beginning,
and no matter what happened in that fight, they was
gonna still be rocking with That's really where the focus
gotta be. And that's what that's what that's what keeps
me grounded. That's what keep me grounded.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
For real.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
My support system is crazy, crazy. They one of the
reasons why I'm here. So because it's a blessing. It's
a blessing, bro, It's a blessing. Like, give me that
pressure that comes with being successful.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
It's cool. I can, I can. I can put that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
On because it's pressure not being successful and trying to
figure out how to make this money work.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
And man, I got a family that's pressure too, just
different pressure. Give me that pressure, yeah, for sure, for sure, man, brother.
I appreciate you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
I know you've been moving and I appreciate you coming
coming to see us up here in Philly, man, and
that we're gonna We're gonna stick with you, brother, and uh,
you know, maybe tap in with you when this fight
get done and maybe check back in with you, brother.
But both of y'all put on a great performance. Bro,
I really enjoyed the fact that y'all from the same
area and y'all was able to rumble like that and
you know, still have respect. You know, I get building

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up a fight, but that was interesting to me just
seeing y'all being as close as y'all have been throughout.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
The years, not not not friends and partners, but.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Like y'all know each other, but still seeing it like
but they really finish, try to do something to each other,
and y'all did that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Y'all put on a great fight.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
So I respect javontaepe Man for extending the opportunity, but
I respect you for not just taking the money and
really saying, Broye, appreciate the opportunity, but be ready.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
I appreciate both of y'all for that. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
It was a great, great fight, and you know, I
hate that it was any type of controversy around it,
but hey, this boxing and that's what rematches are for, bro.
So hopefully y'all get that done and now we're gonna
be tuning in, bros. So we appreciate you, brother man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
No doubt, thank you. I appreciate you doing what you're doing. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
So rap Foot the Art Award Man we'll see y'all
next time. Peace, brother brother, yeah, yes, Lord, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
You man, thank you man. That was a nice talk.
Thank you