July 15, 2025 • 41 mins
Boxing legend Manny Pacquiao sits down with Andre Ward to discuss his incredible journey from poverty in the Philippines to becoming one of the greatest fighters of all time. The PacMan opens up about his toughest opponents, career-defining moments, and the mental game that separated him from every other fighter in his era.
In this exclusive Art of Ward interview, Pacquiao reveals untold stories about his legendary fights, his relationship with Floyd Mayweather, and what it means to be inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame.
Get an inside look at the mindset and determination that made him the only eight-division world champion in boxing history.From his early days struggling to make ends meet to becoming a global icon, Manny Pacquiao shares the raw truth about his boxing legacy and the sacrifices that came with greatness.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Man, Welcome back to another episode of the Art Award.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
My guest is an eight division world champion. He's a
newly crowned Hall of Famer. He's a living legend, he's
an icon, he's a national hero. This man is fighting
for the WBC World Away Championship of July nineteenth after
a four year hiatus. I want to welcome to the
(00:31):
show Manny pac Man pack y'all. It's an honor and
the privilege to hear here with you. Man, Thank you
for opening up the gym. This is my first time
at Wildcard Gym. Really never seen it. I mean I've
only seen it, never been here. And you guys are
downstairs now, so you probably will hear speed bags, you'll
hear the heavy bags being hit. That's okay. That just
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means we're in the element. It's fight time.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are you forty six for seventy two bouts and you
fought four hundred and ninety eight professional rounds.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How are you still going?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm still like it, love it, like when I rest
for four years, like I really missed boxing.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I missed those memories.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Like you know, when we do training, hard training, thraining
comes like us and discipline like that and fight promote
the fight like that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Interviewed the media, It's like, does it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Feel good to get the team back together?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I feel good and happy together.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So I was talking to your team when you were training.
I said, did you believe Manny when he called you
and said that he was coming back? Everybody said no,
they said I didn't believe it. And then when we
got here back to wild Card, then we knew that
it was real. What made you pick up the phone
and start to make this fight with Mario Barrios after
four years? I mean, because obviously you have a lot
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going on, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I realized that when I turn back from basing, like
when I hung up my gloves, like I'm so lonely
because you know, I missed the sports I love since
when I was young and after.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But it's good, good for me because when I rest.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Four years, like my my my body is still okay.
And then and then I keep on even though I
hung up my glass, but I always work out playing basketball,
work out playing basketball, gym and badminton like that. Because
my house is that I have my own gym. I
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can work out basketball, badminton like that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What if Freddie roadside when you called him Freddy, we're
gonna fight again.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
What do he says to you?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Remember, Yeah, he's he's happy. He's just observing me.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And then I saw my speed, my my movement like
that're still there, the fire, my eyes to work out,
to discipline like that. And I'm still enjoying training like nothing.
Nothing's changed about you know, I don't get leazy for
in terms of sacrifices, training every morning, every.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Day like that, But I'm enjoying it like before.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's amazing watching you today, just the hunger, the speed
and just going through your workout. Because many I was
done thirty three, I said goodbye to the game.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You forty six?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, you know that's that's uh.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's the evidence of Yo yo being a passionate with
the sports like it's a it's a like part of
your life. A boxer like to fight, and I grow
in boxing. As long as I'm still enjoying the training,
I'm happy continuing my career.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
How did you and the team come up with the
fight with Mario Barrios?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
How did you pick him? How did he become your
next opponent?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
When I asked my wife, he said, yeah, you can
you can fight him?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Jink jink? Yeah, my wife she said, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, I he said, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, are you sure? Yeah, okay,
I call them. I call that the commission. So the
real balls gave you the gave you the green light.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Jankies. She said, it's good.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
When my family is you think she misses the game.
I think I think so.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
But because he saw me, Like when I do training,
my speed, my my my passion is still there.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
She knows that when I work out, Like, what.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Do you think, Like the biggest change is right now
forty six versus when.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You were young.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh, the biggest changes that we have in training come
is like you know, we listen to the body like that.
You know, sometimes our mind is like push push push,
go go go go go. But the time there's a
time that the body, Oh I need dressed. I need
the cover. So the recovery, that's the question. So I
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have to fill my body to give uh recover, to
give time to recover. If I can push more than
I will push. But if my body is saying you
have to give me time to the cover, then I
give time to the cover.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I want to take it back A little bit, you know,
because your story is like very inspiring for a lot
of people because there's poverty all over the world. But
you didn't grow up in in normal average poverty. You
grew up in extreme poverty. It's a you know, well documented.
You grew up in a shock I think you had.
You were one of six, six, six siblings six. You
said something though, you said every fight, every victory, was
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a step further away from poverty. Yes, how much does
that motivate you throughout your career knowing where you came from?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Oh, all my fights, all my trainings. Has that motivated me?
Is give me motivation for the.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Overc and win the fight because where we come from.
That's my inspiration.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And good thing for me because.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
When I became a champion, when I became a U
known as a boxer, I earned course uh financial I
speak like you know, I can help. I help my family,
my own family, my brother and my sister, everything like that,
and I help other people also. I share my blessings
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that I have that the Lord gave it to me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
What have you learned over the years, like with the
balance of giving, because you know, I've seen you pass
out money and you're always serving other people, but giving
people money and giving people cars and maybe houses, Like
where's the balance between giving and then saying, Okay, I
can't give that much.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I always believe that when you give, you will receive.
I mean, I'm happy doing that helping other people because
I've been there the situation, the feeling of being nothing. Yes,
sometimes you eat, sometimes none, like I just drink water
to survive.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I can see and I can feel those lest fortunate
families that around in the streets. That's what I'm doing,
like giving shelter, make a subdivision houses and giving them
pre and then also giving them money to start a business,
small business like you know, to earn money like or
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really really needs.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You think most people appreciate when you give them things
or it doesn't matter, you just do your part.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I'm doing that not to place people.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm not trying to place people, but I'm trying to
place God because at the end of the day, you
are just passing by. We came to this world naked,
and we will depart naked alone. So we must remember that.
Because even you're the richest man in the world, or
you be, you're a most popular person in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But when you die, you take nothing, can take not
can't take nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But the only thing that we can live in this
world is the legacy that you made, the good example.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm just giving an example. Okay. Uh, fifty years, one.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hundred years from now, Manypacker is not it's not existing
in this world anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
One hundred years, that pretty sure, okay.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But those legacies that the subdivision, the housing that I'm
giving to the less fortunate families, to the people, they
will not forget me.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
They will still remember.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Manipaco And that's the inspiration to the next generation.
And at the end of the day, I want I
want to hear from the Lord to say to me,
will done, good and fitful servant come in there to
my paradise, right, you know, because uh, that's what I
want to hear from the Lord.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's right man, that's powerful.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I think that's a huge reason why you have been
so blessed, you know, because you are a giver. And
when you do that to your point, I'll always make
sure you have what you need. Ye know, if you
take care of his business, you'll take care of your Yes,
that's right. I remember the story about you being twelve
years old. You know, I'm doing the street fighting and
general Santo City for low money, just a few pay sos,
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Like what do you remember from that time.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That you know?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I also remember that time, like when I was I
was almost twelve years old that time, and there is
a boxing match every Sunday in our streets. No, yeah,
in the park in the park in the park, which
is a program of the government, So Sunday boxing, like
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Sunday boxing.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So when I.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Heard that, there is a price money. So there's a
price money. The price money. You know how much the
price money like when you lost one dollar and when
you win like two dollars or so, so that's the
price money. So all right, like twelve years old participating
in that even.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Like okay, okay, well what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
What we're gonna do, Like they put the gloves like
I don't know what is boxing.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
At all, Like I don't have any idea.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I just they said no kicking, but just just doing
pcy like like oh, just doing pass like that. I
don't have idea what boxing. I just want to earn
money so that when I go home back to my mom,
I have money to buy food. So I participate and
I wont I got two dollars. So but it's that,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But the the.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
That's one hundred pacos in in in the Philippines before,
so that's big because one per kilo price is you
can buy six twenty pieceoskilo and that's one hundred pieces,
so you can.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Buy more more killos of rice. Right, So it's good good.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I mean, I'm just enjoying that. But I don't have
idea what is boxing. Just just participate there like that
every Sunday and until winn winning like that, and they
the my uncle knows about boxing, they teach me how
to what is boxing?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
And I have a lot of beaches before beaches the
tape right type when you watch the boxing match beaches,
So I have a lot of beaches, uh tape with
my uncle, the fight with Larry Holme, George Bormann, Evander Holifield,
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Mike Tyson and uh what else Mammad Ali like Sugary
Leonard Chavis.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And I I watched de Las fight career from Olympics
to professional things like that, and I watched like Oubacar
Bais Riccardo Lopez, yeah, or great yeah, yeah, Michael Carbajal.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I saw that all many fights of them.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But when you got when you came to the US,
you came as a stowaway like you were you were
how did you get to the United States?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's that's that was way back two thousand and one.
Like we came here for a vacation really not for
a fight. Really yeah that was May, like third Reek
of May, that was third third, third record me. We
came here United say for for just for a vacation, uh,
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first star, first time with my my manager, and we
arrived in San Francisco and uh, when we arrived at
San Francisco, we look for a gym and there's no
we don't see a gym there boxing gym though. We
ride a greyhound bus from San Francisco to l A,
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l A. And then greyhound busses near here like uh
in Hollywood. So we asked for boxing gym and somebody's
uh uh brought us here and in wild card on
that time, my managers like, you know, because my managers
are so proud of me because I but I also
(13:33):
already a former champion, world champion before when we came here.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This is a.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I remember my manager took to Predde fredday, can you
do a meet with my boxer like Cad you know
a couple of runs with Mit, do meets with my boxer?
And freddie Yeah, sure, sure can do.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And then wow, what what you like? And Freda like
like me like, and then I like Predac the way
we do.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Pants me like, okay, okay, pints me okay tomorrow will
we do it again?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Then he loves my my style, I'm so fast like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And then it's happened that there's a fight with Oscar
de la Joya and Castellio. That was John twenty three
two one, and the undercard is Lil Lilohanla my weight
division one twenty three one twenty two and he's uh
uh fighting with the number one mandatory, which is uh,
(14:37):
I don't know where we're come from, guy, what country
is that? But he got indured two weeks before the fight.
Oh and they're looking for replace replacement for the challenger
because they call the number two containder from Thailand.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But he's not prepared. He cannot take it the way.
So and.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I think I'm the number three or number five that
the idea, it's time that I'm here and they ask me,
are you get to fight two weeks from now? Just
tweeks know this? Are you ready for that? Okay, okay, yeah,
yeah yeah, I will fight twiks know this all a fight,
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and then that's the.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Time I have a break.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Man's it's powerful story. Freddie had no idea who was
coming in this gym, no idea or the or the
the story that you guys are gonna have after you
got here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's just unbelievable. Man.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Man, you won a couple of championships and then your
first big fight was in November two thousand and three
against Marco Antonio Barrera. Oh yeah, yeah, you went down
in the first round. I think he went down in
the third round. And you beat the great Marco Antonio
Barrera the whole run.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
How did your life change after that fight?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Every time they ask me about what is your most
pivoted fights in your career, I told that that Marco
Antenna one, because that's the open door for me here
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, yes, yes, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Open doors. This surprised, like where they came? Where did
this come from?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
This guy?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, that's when I first heard about you.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I was a young amateur boxer, and I started hearing
about this guy.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Back y'all, back y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But I remember I watched you fight Marquez. You knocked
him down three times in the first round. I remember
I was sleep, I was on my bed, I was
watching it, and then when you knocked him down, I
fell asleep. I was like, it's over. And then I
woke up toward the end and the fight was still
going on. I was kid, I was like, what happened?
I was confused.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Supposedly I want to fight. The judges missed the scorecard.
Supposedly he has to score ten six. He scored like
ten seven, because three three knockdown is you must score
ten six if there is no three knockdown roll that's
the rules of boxing. If there is no three knockdown rolls,
you must scure ten six if three three knockdowns.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So that's a mess of uh of. And take on this.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That time I got on the first time, I got
blister on my big blister on my my my fault.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So that's why it's hard, hardly to move.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah. Man, you went from that fight, man, and you
went on a crazy run.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You fought Morales multiple times, You fought Barrera, again, you
fought Marquez again, but then the Oscar de la Hoya
fight in two thousand and eight, that was that was
the that was the next level when you did what
you did the Oscar. First of all, did you know
it was going to be that easy? And second of all,
like what was your life like after that fight?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, that's a that's a good thing, good good
question because you know, you know, as I'm moving up
in different things from Marrera one one thirty and then
one thirty five to UH forty one thirty five and
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then jump to one for the seven.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
But before that, Bob Arum asked me because I just.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Finished my uh fight with David as one Terrified Right DVD.
And he asked me, because somebody is putting my picture
into the light. Then there's a rumor like maybe this
this guy, this guy like he can be can be can.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Can good, can be a good fight, and Bob atom
he could.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Are you willing?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Are you interested to fight Oscar? And then I I
told Bob, Bob, let me think about it, just keep
me a couple of days, and I will, I will,
I will, I'll show you, Okay. Then I watched his
fight and I watched his fight. I watched his style
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like you know, and then I study.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I just I did. I just studied my style in
his style.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I studied, and then what am I going to do
to beat him? Like exactly, And after three days, three
or four days, I called bab bab okay, I can
fight him?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Really, yeah, I can't fight him because I knew, I
know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So during that time when when the fight zone, four
weeks before the fight, like I know, four months, like
during that time, like from the beginning of our training day,
all my movements, punches, everything like that I studied every day.
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I don't throw punches that not usable to my opponent,
all punches that can.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Be land against him against him, like I said.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And then the footwork like that I studyed per picture
like the like that when he jumped, and then when
he jumped like a.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Lot of kind of moving around like.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Many that was that took you to another level though
after you beat him Oscar being as big as he was,
and then the way you did it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah yeah, I was under under underweight on that fight
forty three and I was for who was the fight
contract to that one?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Seven? Right? Yeah? Yeah, when you shocked?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
How how I mean, no fight is easy, but at
home looking at it, it was easier than we thought it
was gonna be.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Were you shocked about that? After it was over?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know the result of the fight?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We really expected that, okay, because we find a guy
like the la Joya style like our sparing against spiring,
we find it and then for four months like I studying,
like perfectly accurately, I delivered it. That's why I'm very
confident to uh to win the fight.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But after this fight, many like like, how are you
dealing with being Manipac?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yah?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You're a global star, you are a national hero.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
At the time that I became a number one pound
per pound in the world, How.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Are you dealing with it as a personally?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Like being that big? How are you dealing with that
at that time?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I never like the fans the world or commerce like
everything like that, I mean recognition everywhere like that, even
in the Philippines, because most of the people in the
fields don't believe that I'm gonna win the fight. Because
even in our congress, some some congressman filed a resolution
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to stop the fight.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Because it might get hurt me, like really like yeah
for you. They said that. Uh they said.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
That stop to stop the fight, to stop the.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Fight because they might get hurt me. They yeah, yeah,
it's like that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It's like that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So after the fight, like the people like boom like that,
and then and then that time like you know, oh
oh this is but I still you know, thinking to
God for everything, like, uh, all that accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Is from God.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
A man in your life wasn't the same man. It
wasn't the same.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Like you can't go anywhere, whether you're in the Philippines
or an American. Now you got people lined up outside
the gym. You can't even train in peace.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So how did you deal with that? Like did you?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean you had to notice it, but like how
did it affect your family?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
There's a saying that you have you understand how to
balance it? Like with great power comes great responsibility. So
he became a popular person, You become a famous you
know famous, So that's your responsibility. The fans supported you,
the people supported you, so it's your it's your obligation
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to you know, to give them time, you know, to
say hi hello to them, and you know, just that's
our our responsibility.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And I don't want to, you know, to be Boss
Paul Arugan.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I want to stay humble because many podcast has nothing
to do with You know, I have no right to
become Boss Paul or Arugan because.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I came from nothing. I I I I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Part of those people sleeping in the state. I love them,
I love I love them all.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I hope that one day they will experience a life
like what I experience.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know, I'm gonna get away from the boxing for
just a second. Man, you love basketball, You play basketball?
You watch basketball? Where did your love for basketball come
from before?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Were boxing? Basketball is basketball?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I play in uh in our place because our house
the small the small house, like very small house. And
when you just twenty meters is basketball court? Just twenty
meters of basketball court beside uh basketball court? So like
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shooting the ball, like I think like the basketball. We
play basketball?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What kind of game do you have? What kind of
basketball game? Do you have?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Five on five? Like?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, I mean you a shooter? You like to drive?
Do you file a lot shorter?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Do you file?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Do you file people?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
The heck? Do you sometimes?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you call it a foul?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Because some guys fouled they said, no, no, no, it's not
a foul.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I foil a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I get a little physical a little bit. Me and
Terrence Carver we played and uh, he's worse than me.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Though he's worse. He files a lot really even cheating. Yeah,
he don't want to knit it. You don't want to
cheats a lot. But that's another story for that. But
do you foul people when you play basketball? Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Sometimes, sometimes if needed?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, But because I played professionally in the.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Past, I know, I know. But you say you're a shooter.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, I too.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Come on now, come on, I like it. Three, I
like it? What about?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
What about the karaoke man? Tell me about the karaoke
you love?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I used to sing. I used to sing before. Yeah, yeah,
I used to sing before. My first album in the
Philippines is uh you know you still like to sing?
No before now I love to sing, but uh prasis
an Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Tell me about your wife Jinki. Man, you've been with
her your whole career. What does she meant to you?
And how have you guys stayed together through all of
the craziness that you've experienced.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We've been married with Jinki more than twenty five years.
Turning twenty six years both nineteen years old when you
get married. Yeah, like we came from you know before
I you know the time I just I just became
a champion. I was because before I turned I turned
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to nineteen, I became a champion.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I world champion, So I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
How rare is that, though, for somebody to stay with
a fighter that long and then even after the career,
because sometimes fighters retire or basketball players retire, and then
they don't they're no longer married, they get a divorce.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You guys have stayed strong. What's the secret?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Because I know how to value the family. I preach
also I share the gospel. Yeah, I preach. And my
passion is marriage counseling really really yes, Okay, marriage conseiling. Okay,
that's my my my conviction, that's my passion. I don't
want the family separated, Like you know, I'm sad.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Family separate.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
The kids, tough on everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No, it's just the design of God, Like you know,
the devil is trying to destroy all the family.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Man, there's a video that's out of your wife. I
think it was after the Ugust fight where she's feeding you. Yeah,
and it looks like your eyes are closed after the fight,
and some people were concerned about that, you know, but
is that normal for your wife to do? Is just
to help you after battle like like that, like after
the Ugust fight. I think she was feeding you, poorge
or something. But people were like really concerned about that.
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Is that normal for her to do after a big fight?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Oh, my my wife is it's uh, it's very it's
very uh taking care of me. Yeah, you're like, she's
most outstanding wife in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's for me. That's right. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I tell people all the time that, you know, I've
to some of my big fights, you know, barely getting
out the bed the next day, two days after, Like she's.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The only one there in my kids.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, there's no cameras, there's no there's no there's no
it's just her.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
May do you need something?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yes, I they can't help you, Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Want to get back to the fighting for a little bit.
I got a few More'm to let you go. And
I only bring this up because I want to. I
want to see if you can speak to.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
The young fighters who have dealt with this.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know, in twenty twelve, you had the Marquez knockout,
right and again you're a global superstar having to deal
with something like that, Like, like, how did you recover
from that personally as a fighter, because.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Some people never come back from that. But you got up.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You said, I made the mistake, I was careless and
you continued on with your career.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
How did you do that?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
You know when you are in the in in in boxing,
you know, in your in your in your career, I said,
box her, expect that. You know, not only time you
you yeah, you win, Like I mean, there's a time
that you lost. So you must accept it and learn
from it. What what I did is like, okay, I
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lost it, but I want to learn what my mistake,
what I did wrong during training preparation in the fight.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Thing like that, How I study my style le of
my opponent.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's how I became eight different weight division champion, because
I'm still you know, I mix boxing into science.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Uh, there's there's a.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
My I have a principle like, uh, the secret art
of boxing.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
That's why I miss it.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Did you ever doubt yourself when you started?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
When you first came back after that knockout to say,
and do I still have it?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
And I still take a punch.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
No, no, I never doubt myself because it's my.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
My condition, my my you know, my mind is still
there like nothing like nothing changed. It's just happened that way.
You know, you cannot avoid the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Man, in twenty fifteen, you said that that God spoke
to you. You had an experience. I don't know if
it was a dream. You said that God spoke to you,
and it like changed everything. I started hearing you talk
more about Jesus. I started like you always talked about God,
but something changed.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I told him that. You know, I'm gonna be lying
if I don't tell I tell you this. I did,
you know, billions of population in the world, but I'm
one that blessed by God is a I hear the
voice of God.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
That's a that's a reality.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Like I hear the voice of God, and he showed
me about Hell, about heaven, paradies is beautiful. So there's
no reason for me the turning back from the God.
I mean doing what I did right now in my life,
like dedicating to him all my all, my you know,
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my my strength, my my knowledge, everything like that to
glorify him. That's my my doing. Like you know, I
want to place God, not the people doing something.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Be compassionate, be merciful.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Uh you know, do not put grievances against someone, don't
be hatred everything like that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I've seen a change in you after that.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
How I wish that all people will experience that what
I had experience. Like you know, if you experience like that,
what I had experience, like, believe me, like, oh, there's
no there is no way that you cannot obey.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You cannot.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know, what gives you the boldness?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And uh I said, the boldness to speak about Jesus.
Some people don't want to hear about it. Some people
are shut up. Nobody wants to hear that.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You're very You have the stature you have, you have
the popularity you have, and you use that platform to
share his name to preach. What gives you that boldness
to do that?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Because that's his promise that he will come back.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
And he will appear a second time to take those
who are waiting for him.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Like, that's his promise.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
He will appear a second time, not to be sin
but to bring Salvationis that those who are waiting for him.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
So that's my.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
And one day because we have to understand that we're
just passing by you never're not forever hitting this world.
So make sure that after the life our lives here
in this world, that's the beginning of eternity, either eternal
suffering or eternal happiness.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Because God showed me that the hell?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
What is hell?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
What is heaven?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So how I wish that people will see what I see?
What I saw that God showed it to me. There's
no reason that you can turn away from God, like
there's no reason you have until now. Every time I'm
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doing something like that, I'm always thinking about like the
hell that he showed it to me, like in agony forever,
like oh all the people who died, like let's go
to hell, like they're in agony.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
That's forever.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
What I'm gonna do like I can, there's no reason.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That the Lord needs to prove it to me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah yeah, was that like a dream or like a vision.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Like like like I was crying and then huh like
a dream. But when I wake up, like I'm subscrying,
like you know, my my my feeling is with my
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Also with twenty fifteen, We finally got the fight that
everybody want to afford.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
My weather, what.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Happened in that training camp with your shoulder going into
that fight?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Man supposedly, Like I'm just wondering two weeks before the fight,
like if I'm going to uh postpone it or not,
cause I'm so bothered with my my shoulder. But the
thing is, I'm worried about the fans, cause, uh.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
This the decade is sold out.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The fan is already there in blast Vegas waiting for
the fight.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Like the whole world is very excited for that fight.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
And I'm thinking, like, I mean, you're you're going to
announce like the fight the fighters postpone like that they
were you know, mm hmmm, this may like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Tell me about that fight a little bit, just being
in there with Floyd, Floyd being in there with you, Like,
what was the experience like being there in the ring
fighting him?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Finally it's good.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
But despite all of those things.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Uh, but after the fight, right right after the fight,
I went through good. I went to the hospitalient and
got operated.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
That you got an operation, Yeah I remember you posted
a picture of it.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, really hurt. Yeah, after the operation.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I've had it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I've had a shoulder ser the rehab is terrible to
the rehabilitation.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Like how many months? Like it's really hard?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Is Floyd?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Was he better or worse than you thought he was?
Floyd Mayweather? When you fought him?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Were you were you?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
This is what I thought? Or was it better or worse? No?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
That's his style, like I knew it. But the thing is.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I review, I don't I'm expecting that I want to
fight because he didn't throw a lot of punches. I
throw a lot of punches. And I reviewed the company
box like slow motion from personal to Pearl Brown's slow motion,
like how many? How many punches get connected? And how many?
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How many punts of him connected? I won't like two
two runs from him, but I had That's that's uh,
you know, that's boxing. I'm not complaining or making you know,
just it happened that way. It happened to me in
many times, like the Jeff Horns Bradley won, like.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
The Brobably fight, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Did you try to get a rematch?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
You did you want a rematch with Floyd?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
With Floyd, I'm still active.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's up to him. It's going to fight so you
will even fight him today. You would even fight him today.
You win your fighter, He said, Hey, manny I wanna fight.
You're gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Even here.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh my goodness, even here. Yeah, that fire never dies man,
and never now.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
My my, my man, my right hand is complain too.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, you'll be willing to do it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
You will see my condition in the fight.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, you see.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Terrence Crawford now just moved up to one point fifty four.
Then he's moving up again two way classes against Canwa.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
What do you think about that fight?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's a good fight, but Canilo has advantage his favorite
because that's his natural weight.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And then.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Uh, Crowpord moving up.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
If Crowpord don't know how to handle or manage his
body in his condition, his footwork, everything like that to
moving up very difficult. He needs to handle and maintain
the speed and improve his power. That's that's what I did,
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Like maintain your speed and improve your power.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
To get respect from the bigger man.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yes, of course, Like what when I fought.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
The Margarito, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Crazy. Your power carried up he went up with me.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yes, like it's hard.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I mean I have to a lot of works at
the gym, like I trained like three four hours a day.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
What can we expect from your money? And you'll find July?
What can the fans expect from Many Pacyall you know?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
All I can say is like I always bring surprises
to the fans.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Surprise.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I always bring surprises.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's many Baca. Then your son was on the undercar.
You're nervous, you feel excited? How you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Actually yeah, I am. I feel nervous to his fight.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Than my fight.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Mm hmm. But you're excited for him too.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm excited because you know, I am blessed because uh,
I cannot.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Imagine that in my career.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I can that's I can see my my sonbelievable, right, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I heard he's been here training even when you were
back in the Philippines.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, he stayed in La.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah he is training studying. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Last question, Mannie, what brings you happiness and enjoy at
this stage in your life?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Bring me happiness? There the Lord?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
My relations to God. I want to get closer closer
to God, like I'm reading the Bible, pray continually and
memorizing churs, sharing to others how God loves us and
all of us. The Lord wants us to be united
and caring, sharing to others. Those who are hunger we have,
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we should feed them. Those who are Thursday, we should
give them something to drink. And those who are don't
have shelter, we give them shelter. That's how.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
That's the love of God.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
If we really love God, if we really believe God,
then confirm it by our action.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
That's how we claim that we believe God.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Because there are so many people in the world that
claiming that they believe God, but by their actions, they're
not confirming, so they don't really believe God.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
They just know God. So believing in in uh in.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Believing and claiming is different because when you believe, you obey.
When you claiming believe that they don't, you don't obey that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It's just just just know God.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We champion. Thank you so much man for your thank you.
I appreciate you. Man. That's a rat. We in a dungeon.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
You hear speedbags, heavy bags. I think we had somebody
playing a guitar outside, Like.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
We're in a dungeon. Man, this is just what it is.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
We're a wild card. I'm happy that Manny took the time. Man,
he's had a long day of training. It's not easy
to do these kind of interviews, especially after a long
day of training.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So Manny, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Man tune into the fight July nineteenth. We appreciate you
guys tuning in for another episode.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
That's a right thank you and thank you brother
Man, Welcome back to another episode of the Art Award.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
My guest is an eight division world champion. He's a
newly crowned Hall of Famer. He's a living legend, he's
an icon, he's a national hero. This man is fighting
for the WBC World Away Championship of July nineteenth after
a four year hiatus. I want to welcome to the
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show Manny pac Man pack y'all. It's an honor and
the privilege to hear here with you. Man, Thank you
for opening up the gym. This is my first time
at Wildcard Gym. Really never seen it. I mean I've
only seen it, never been here. And you guys are
downstairs now, so you probably will hear speed bags, you'll
hear the heavy bags being hit. That's okay. That just
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means we're in the element. It's fight time.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are you forty six for seventy two bouts and you
fought four hundred and ninety eight professional rounds.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How are you still going?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm still like it, love it, like when I rest
for four years, like I really missed boxing.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I missed those memories.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Like you know, when we do training, hard training, thraining
comes like us and discipline like that and fight promote
the fight like that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Interviewed the media, It's like, does it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Feel good to get the team back together?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I feel good and happy together.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So I was talking to your team when you were training.
I said, did you believe Manny when he called you
and said that he was coming back? Everybody said no,
they said I didn't believe it. And then when we
got here back to wild Card, then we knew that
it was real. What made you pick up the phone
and start to make this fight with Mario Barrios after
four years? I mean, because obviously you have a lot
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going on, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I realized that when I turn back from basing, like
when I hung up my gloves, like I'm so lonely
because you know, I missed the sports I love since
when I was young and after.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But it's good, good for me because when I rest.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Four years, like my my my body is still okay.
And then and then I keep on even though I
hung up my glass, but I always work out playing basketball,
work out playing basketball, gym and badminton like that. Because
my house is that I have my own gym. I
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can work out basketball, badminton like that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What if Freddie roadside when you called him Freddy, we're
gonna fight again.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
What do he says to you?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Remember, Yeah, he's he's happy. He's just observing me.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And then I saw my speed, my my movement like
that're still there, the fire, my eyes to work out,
to discipline like that. And I'm still enjoying training like nothing.
Nothing's changed about you know, I don't get leazy for
in terms of sacrifices, training every morning, every.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Day like that, But I'm enjoying it like before.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It's amazing watching you today, just the hunger, the speed
and just going through your workout. Because many I was
done thirty three, I said goodbye to the game.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You forty six?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, you know that's that's uh.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's the evidence of Yo yo being a passionate with
the sports like it's a it's a like part of
your life. A boxer like to fight, and I grow
in boxing. As long as I'm still enjoying the training,
I'm happy continuing my career.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
How did you and the team come up with the
fight with Mario Barrios?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
How did you pick him? How did he become your
next opponent?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
When I asked my wife, he said, yeah, you can
you can fight him?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Jink jink? Yeah, my wife she said, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, I he said, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, are you sure? Yeah, okay,
I call them. I call that the commission. So the
real balls gave you the gave you the green light.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Jankies. She said, it's good.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
When my family is you think she misses the game.
I think I think so.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
But because he saw me, Like when I do training,
my speed, my my my passion is still there.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
She knows that when I work out, Like, what.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Do you think, Like the biggest change is right now
forty six versus when.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
You were young.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh, the biggest changes that we have in training come
is like you know, we listen to the body like that.
You know, sometimes our mind is like push push push,
go go go go go. But the time there's a
time that the body, Oh I need dressed. I need
the cover. So the recovery, that's the question. So I
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have to fill my body to give uh recover, to
give time to recover. If I can push more than
I will push. But if my body is saying you
have to give me time to the cover, then I
give time to the cover.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I want to take it back A little bit, you know,
because your story is like very inspiring for a lot
of people because there's poverty all over the world. But
you didn't grow up in in normal average poverty. You
grew up in extreme poverty. It's a you know, well documented.
You grew up in a shock I think you had.
You were one of six, six, six siblings six. You
said something though, you said every fight, every victory, was
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a step further away from poverty. Yes, how much does
that motivate you throughout your career knowing where you came from?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Oh, all my fights, all my trainings. Has that motivated me?
Is give me motivation for the.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Overc and win the fight because where we come from.
That's my inspiration.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
And good thing for me because.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
When I became a champion, when I became a U
known as a boxer, I earned course uh financial I
speak like you know, I can help. I help my family,
my own family, my brother and my sister, everything like that,
and I help other people also. I share my blessings
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that I have that the Lord gave it to me.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
What have you learned over the years, like with the
balance of giving, because you know, I've seen you pass
out money and you're always serving other people, but giving
people money and giving people cars and maybe houses, Like
where's the balance between giving and then saying, Okay, I
can't give that much.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I always believe that when you give, you will receive.
I mean, I'm happy doing that helping other people because
I've been there the situation, the feeling of being nothing. Yes,
sometimes you eat, sometimes none, like I just drink water
to survive.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I can see and I can feel those lest fortunate
families that around in the streets. That's what I'm doing,
like giving shelter, make a subdivision houses and giving them
pre and then also giving them money to start a business,
small business like you know, to earn money like or
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really really needs.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You think most people appreciate when you give them things
or it doesn't matter, you just do your part.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I'm doing that not to place people.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm not trying to place people, but I'm trying to
place God because at the end of the day, you
are just passing by. We came to this world naked,
and we will depart naked alone. So we must remember that.
Because even you're the richest man in the world, or
you be, you're a most popular person in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But when you die, you take nothing, can take not
can't take nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But the only thing that we can live in this
world is the legacy that you made, the good example.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm just giving an example. Okay. Uh, fifty years, one.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hundred years from now, Manypacker is not it's not existing
in this world anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
One hundred years, that pretty sure, okay.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But those legacies that the subdivision, the housing that I'm
giving to the less fortunate families, to the people, they
will not forget me.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
They will still remember.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Manipaco And that's the inspiration to the next generation.
And at the end of the day, I want I
want to hear from the Lord to say to me,
will done, good and fitful servant come in there to
my paradise, right, you know, because uh, that's what I
want to hear from the Lord.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's right man, that's powerful.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I think that's a huge reason why you have been
so blessed, you know, because you are a giver. And
when you do that to your point, I'll always make
sure you have what you need. Ye know, if you
take care of his business, you'll take care of your Yes,
that's right. I remember the story about you being twelve
years old. You know, I'm doing the street fighting and
general Santo City for low money, just a few pay sos,
(09:26):
Like what do you remember from that time.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That you know?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I also remember that time, like when I was I
was almost twelve years old that time, and there is
a boxing match every Sunday in our streets. No, yeah,
in the park in the park in the park, which
is a program of the government, So Sunday boxing, like
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Sunday boxing.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So when I.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Heard that, there is a price money. So there's a
price money. The price money. You know how much the
price money like when you lost one dollar and when
you win like two dollars or so, so that's the
price money. So all right, like twelve years old participating
in that even.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Like okay, okay, well what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
What we're gonna do, Like they put the gloves like
I don't know what is boxing.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
At all, Like I don't have any idea.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I just they said no kicking, but just just doing
pcy like like oh, just doing pass like that. I
don't have idea what boxing. I just want to earn
money so that when I go home back to my mom,
I have money to buy food. So I participate and
I wont I got two dollars. So but it's that,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
But the the.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
That's one hundred pacos in in in the Philippines before,
so that's big because one per kilo price is you
can buy six twenty pieceoskilo and that's one hundred pieces,
so you can.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Buy more more killos of rice. Right, So it's good good.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I mean, I'm just enjoying that. But I don't have
idea what is boxing. Just just participate there like that
every Sunday and until winn winning like that, and they
the my uncle knows about boxing, they teach me how
to what is boxing?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
And I have a lot of beaches before beaches the
tape right type when you watch the boxing match beaches,
So I have a lot of beaches, uh tape with
my uncle, the fight with Larry Holme, George Bormann, Evander Holifield,
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Mike Tyson and uh what else Mammad Ali like Sugary
Leonard Chavis.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And I I watched de Las fight career from Olympics
to professional things like that, and I watched like Oubacar
Bais Riccardo Lopez, yeah, or great yeah, yeah, Michael Carbajal.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I saw that all many fights of them.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But when you got when you came to the US,
you came as a stowaway like you were you were
how did you get to the United States?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's that's that was way back two thousand and one.
Like we came here for a vacation really not for
a fight. Really yeah that was May, like third Reek
of May, that was third third, third record me. We
came here United say for for just for a vacation, uh,
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first star, first time with my my manager, and we
arrived in San Francisco and uh, when we arrived at
San Francisco, we look for a gym and there's no
we don't see a gym there boxing gym though. We
ride a greyhound bus from San Francisco to l A,
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l A. And then greyhound busses near here like uh
in Hollywood. So we asked for boxing gym and somebody's
uh uh brought us here and in wild card on
that time, my managers like, you know, because my managers
are so proud of me because I but I also
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already a former champion, world champion before when we came here.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This is a.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I remember my manager took to Predde fredday, can you
do a meet with my boxer like Cad you know
a couple of runs with Mit, do meets with my boxer?
And freddie Yeah, sure, sure can do.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And then wow, what what you like? And Freda like
like me like, and then I like Predac the way
we do.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Pants me like, okay, okay, pints me okay tomorrow will
we do it again?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Then he loves my my style, I'm so fast like.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And then it's happened that there's a fight with Oscar
de la Joya and Castellio. That was John twenty three
two one, and the undercard is Lil Lilohanla my weight
division one twenty three one twenty two and he's uh
uh fighting with the number one mandatory, which is uh,
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I don't know where we're come from, guy, what country
is that? But he got indured two weeks before the fight.
Oh and they're looking for replace replacement for the challenger
because they call the number two containder from Thailand.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But he's not prepared. He cannot take it the way.
So and.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I think I'm the number three or number five that
the idea, it's time that I'm here and they ask me,
are you get to fight two weeks from now? Just
tweeks know this? Are you ready for that? Okay, okay, yeah,
yeah yeah, I will fight twiks know this all a fight,
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and then that's the.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Time I have a break.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Man's it's powerful story. Freddie had no idea who was
coming in this gym, no idea or the or the
the story that you guys are gonna have after you
got here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's just unbelievable. Man.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Man, you won a couple of championships and then your
first big fight was in November two thousand and three
against Marco Antonio Barrera. Oh yeah, yeah, you went down
in the first round. I think he went down in
the third round. And you beat the great Marco Antonio
Barrera the whole run.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
How did your life change after that fight?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Every time they ask me about what is your most
pivoted fights in your career, I told that that Marco
Antenna one, because that's the open door for me here
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, yes, yes, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Open doors. This surprised, like where they came? Where did
this come from?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
This guy?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, that's when I first heard about you.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I was a young amateur boxer, and I started hearing
about this guy.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Back y'all, back y'all.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But I remember I watched you fight Marquez. You knocked
him down three times in the first round. I remember
I was sleep, I was on my bed, I was
watching it, and then when you knocked him down, I
fell asleep. I was like, it's over. And then I
woke up toward the end and the fight was still
going on. I was kid, I was like, what happened?
I was confused.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Supposedly I want to fight. The judges missed the scorecard.
Supposedly he has to score ten six. He scored like
ten seven, because three three knockdown is you must score
ten six if there is no three knockdown roll that's
the rules of boxing. If there is no three knockdown rolls,
you must scure ten six if three three knockdowns.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So that's a mess of uh of. And take on this.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
That time I got on the first time, I got
blister on my big blister on my my my fault.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So that's why it's hard, hardly to move.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah. Man, you went from that fight, man, and you
went on a crazy run.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You fought Morales multiple times, You fought Barrera, again, you
fought Marquez again, but then the Oscar de la Hoya
fight in two thousand and eight, that was that was
the that was the next level when you did what
you did the Oscar. First of all, did you know
it was going to be that easy? And second of all,
like what was your life like after that fight?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know, that's a that's a good thing, good good
question because you know, you know, as I'm moving up
in different things from Marrera one one thirty and then
one thirty five to UH forty one thirty five and
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then jump to one for the seven.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
But before that, Bob Arum asked me because I just.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Finished my uh fight with David as one Terrified Right DVD.
And he asked me, because somebody is putting my picture
into the light. Then there's a rumor like maybe this
this guy, this guy like he can be can be can.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Can good, can be a good fight, and Bob atom
he could.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Are you willing?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Are you interested to fight Oscar? And then I I
told Bob, Bob, let me think about it, just keep
me a couple of days, and I will, I will,
I will, I'll show you, Okay. Then I watched his
fight and I watched his fight. I watched his style
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like you know, and then I study.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I just I did. I just studied my style in
his style.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I studied, and then what am I going to do
to beat him? Like exactly, And after three days, three
or four days, I called bab bab okay, I can
fight him?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Really, yeah, I can't fight him because I knew, I
know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So during that time when when the fight zone, four
weeks before the fight, like I know, four months, like
during that time, like from the beginning of our training day,
all my movements, punches, everything like that I studied every day.
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I don't throw punches that not usable to my opponent,
all punches that can.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Be land against him against him, like I said.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And then the footwork like that I studyed per picture
like the like that when he jumped, and then when
he jumped like a.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Lot of kind of moving around like.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Many that was that took you to another level though
after you beat him Oscar being as big as he was,
and then the way you did it.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah yeah, I was under under underweight on that fight
forty three and I was for who was the fight
contract to that one?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Seven? Right? Yeah? Yeah, when you shocked?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
How how I mean, no fight is easy, but at
home looking at it, it was easier than we thought it
was gonna be.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Were you shocked about that? After it was over?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know the result of the fight?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We really expected that, okay, because we find a guy
like the la Joya style like our sparing against spiring,
we find it and then for four months like I studying,
like perfectly accurately, I delivered it. That's why I'm very
confident to uh to win the fight.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
But after this fight, many like like, how are you
dealing with being Manipac?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yah?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You're a global star, you are a national hero.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
At the time that I became a number one pound
per pound in the world, How.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Are you dealing with it as a personally?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Like being that big? How are you dealing with that
at that time?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I never like the fans the world or commerce like
everything like that, I mean recognition everywhere like that, even
in the Philippines, because most of the people in the
fields don't believe that I'm gonna win the fight. Because
even in our congress, some some congressman filed a resolution
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to stop the fight.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Because it might get hurt me, like really like yeah
for you. They said that. Uh they said.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
That stop to stop the fight, to stop the.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Fight because they might get hurt me. They yeah, yeah,
it's like that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
It's like that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So after the fight, like the people like boom like that,
and then and then that time like you know, oh
oh this is but I still you know, thinking to
God for everything, like, uh, all that accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Is from God.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
A man in your life wasn't the same man. It
wasn't the same.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Like you can't go anywhere, whether you're in the Philippines
or an American. Now you got people lined up outside
the gym. You can't even train in peace.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So how did you deal with that? Like did you?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean you had to notice it, but like how
did it affect your family?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
There's a saying that you have you understand how to
balance it? Like with great power comes great responsibility. So
he became a popular person, You become a famous you
know famous, So that's your responsibility. The fans supported you,
the people supported you, so it's your it's your obligation
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to you know, to give them time, you know, to
say hi hello to them, and you know, just that's
our our responsibility.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And I don't want to, you know, to be Boss
Paul Arugan.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I want to stay humble because many podcast has nothing
to do with You know, I have no right to
become Boss Paul or Arugan because.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I came from nothing. I I I I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Part of those people sleeping in the state. I love them,
I love I love them all.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I hope that one day they will experience a life
like what I experience.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know, I'm gonna get away from the boxing for
just a second. Man, you love basketball, You play basketball?
You watch basketball? Where did your love for basketball come
from before?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Were boxing? Basketball is basketball?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I play in uh in our place because our house
the small the small house, like very small house. And
when you just twenty meters is basketball court? Just twenty
meters of basketball court beside uh basketball court? So like
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shooting the ball, like I think like the basketball. We
play basketball?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What kind of game do you have? What kind of
basketball game? Do you have?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Five on five? Like?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, I mean you a shooter? You like to drive?
Do you file a lot shorter?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Do you file?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Do you file people?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
The heck? Do you sometimes?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you call it a foul?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Because some guys fouled they said, no, no, no, it's not
a foul.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I foil a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I get a little physical a little bit. Me and
Terrence Carver we played and uh, he's worse than me.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Though he's worse. He files a lot really even cheating. Yeah,
he don't want to knit it. You don't want to
cheats a lot. But that's another story for that. But
do you foul people when you play basketball? Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Sometimes, sometimes if needed?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, But because I played professionally in the.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Past, I know, I know. But you say you're a shooter.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, I too.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Come on now, come on, I like it. Three, I
like it? What about?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
What about the karaoke man? Tell me about the karaoke
you love?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I used to sing. I used to sing before. Yeah, yeah,
I used to sing before. My first album in the
Philippines is uh you know you still like to sing?
No before now I love to sing, but uh prasis
an Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Tell me about your wife Jinki. Man, you've been with
her your whole career. What does she meant to you?
And how have you guys stayed together through all of
the craziness that you've experienced.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
We've been married with Jinki more than twenty five years.
Turning twenty six years both nineteen years old when you
get married. Yeah, like we came from you know before
I you know the time I just I just became
a champion. I was because before I turned I turned
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to nineteen, I became a champion.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I world champion, So I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
How rare is that, though, for somebody to stay with
a fighter that long and then even after the career,
because sometimes fighters retire or basketball players retire, and then
they don't they're no longer married, they get a divorce.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
You guys have stayed strong. What's the secret?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Because I know how to value the family. I preach
also I share the gospel. Yeah, I preach. And my
passion is marriage counseling really really yes, Okay, marriage conseiling. Okay,
that's my my my conviction, that's my passion. I don't
want the family separated, Like you know, I'm sad.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Family separate.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
The kids, tough on everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No, it's just the design of God, Like you know,
the devil is trying to destroy all the family.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Man, there's a video that's out of your wife. I
think it was after the Ugust fight where she's feeding you. Yeah,
and it looks like your eyes are closed after the fight,
and some people were concerned about that, you know, but
is that normal for your wife to do? Is just
to help you after battle like like that, like after
the Ugust fight. I think she was feeding you, poorge
or something. But people were like really concerned about that.
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Is that normal for her to do after a big fight?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Oh, my my wife is it's uh, it's very it's
very uh taking care of me. Yeah, you're like, she's
most outstanding wife in the world.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
That's for me. That's right. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I tell people all the time that, you know, I've
to some of my big fights, you know, barely getting
out the bed the next day, two days after, Like she's.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The only one there in my kids.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, there's no cameras, there's no there's no there's no
it's just her.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
May do you need something?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yes, I they can't help you, Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Want to get back to the fighting for a little bit.
I got a few More'm to let you go. And
I only bring this up because I want to. I
want to see if you can speak to.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
The young fighters who have dealt with this.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know, in twenty twelve, you had the Marquez knockout,
right and again you're a global superstar having to deal
with something like that, Like, like, how did you recover
from that personally as a fighter, because.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Some people never come back from that. But you got up.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
You said, I made the mistake, I was careless and
you continued on with your career.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
How did you do that?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
You know when you are in the in in in boxing,
you know, in your in your in your career, I said,
box her, expect that. You know, not only time you
you yeah, you win, Like I mean, there's a time
that you lost. So you must accept it and learn
from it. What what I did is like, okay, I
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lost it, but I want to learn what my mistake,
what I did wrong during training preparation in the fight.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Thing like that, How I study my style le of
my opponent.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's how I became eight different weight division champion, because
I'm still you know, I mix boxing into science.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Uh, there's there's a.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
My I have a principle like, uh, the secret art
of boxing.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
That's why I miss it.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Did you ever doubt yourself when you started?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
When you first came back after that knockout to say,
and do I still have it?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
And I still take a punch.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
No, no, I never doubt myself because it's my.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
My condition, my my you know, my mind is still
there like nothing like nothing changed. It's just happened that way.
You know, you cannot avoid the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Man, in twenty fifteen, you said that that God spoke
to you. You had an experience. I don't know if
it was a dream. You said that God spoke to you,
and it like changed everything. I started hearing you talk
more about Jesus. I started like you always talked about God,
but something changed.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I told him that. You know, I'm gonna be lying
if I don't tell I tell you this. I did,
you know, billions of population in the world, but I'm
one that blessed by God is a I hear the
voice of God.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
That's a that's a reality.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Like I hear the voice of God, and he showed
me about Hell, about heaven, paradies is beautiful. So there's
no reason for me the turning back from the God.
I mean doing what I did right now in my life,
like dedicating to him all my all, my you know,
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my my strength, my my knowledge, everything like that to
glorify him. That's my my doing. Like you know, I
want to place God, not the people doing something.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Be compassionate, be merciful.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Uh you know, do not put grievances against someone, don't
be hatred everything like that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I've seen a change in you after that.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
How I wish that all people will experience that what
I had experience. Like you know, if you experience like that,
what I had experience, like, believe me, like, oh, there's
no there is no way that you cannot obey.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You cannot.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know, what gives you the boldness?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And uh I said, the boldness to speak about Jesus.
Some people don't want to hear about it. Some people
are shut up. Nobody wants to hear that.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You're very You have the stature you have, you have
the popularity you have, and you use that platform to
share his name to preach. What gives you that boldness
to do that?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Because that's his promise that he will come back.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
And he will appear a second time to take those
who are waiting for him.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Like, that's his promise.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
He will appear a second time, not to be sin
but to bring Salvationis that those who are waiting for him.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
So that's my.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
And one day because we have to understand that we're
just passing by you never're not forever hitting this world.
So make sure that after the life our lives here
in this world, that's the beginning of eternity, either eternal
suffering or eternal happiness.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Because God showed me that the hell?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
What is hell?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
What is heaven?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So how I wish that people will see what I see?
What I saw that God showed it to me. There's
no reason that you can turn away from God, like
there's no reason you have until now. Every time I'm
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doing something like that, I'm always thinking about like the
hell that he showed it to me, like in agony forever,
like oh all the people who died, like let's go
to hell, like they're in agony.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
That's forever.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
What I'm gonna do like I can, there's no reason.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That the Lord needs to prove it to me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah yeah, was that like a dream or like a vision.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Like like like I was crying and then huh like
a dream. But when I wake up, like I'm subscrying,
like you know, my my my feeling is with my
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Also with twenty fifteen, We finally got the fight that
everybody want to afford.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
My weather, what.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Happened in that training camp with your shoulder going into
that fight?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Man supposedly, Like I'm just wondering two weeks before the fight,
like if I'm going to uh postpone it or not,
cause I'm so bothered with my my shoulder. But the
thing is, I'm worried about the fans, cause, uh.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
This the decade is sold out.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
The fan is already there in blast Vegas waiting for
the fight.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Like the whole world is very excited for that fight.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
And I'm thinking, like, I mean, you're you're going to
announce like the fight the fighters postpone like that they
were you know, mm hmmm, this may like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Tell me about that fight a little bit, just being
in there with Floyd, Floyd being in there with you, Like,
what was the experience like being there in the ring
fighting him?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Finally it's good.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
But despite all of those things.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Uh, but after the fight, right right after the fight,
I went through good. I went to the hospitalient and
got operated.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
That you got an operation, Yeah I remember you posted
a picture of it.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, really hurt. Yeah, after the operation.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I've had it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I've had a shoulder ser the rehab is terrible to
the rehabilitation.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
Like how many months? Like it's really hard?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Is Floyd?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Was he better or worse than you thought he was?
Floyd Mayweather? When you fought him?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Were you were you?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
This is what I thought? Or was it better or worse? No?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
That's his style, like I knew it. But the thing is.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I review, I don't I'm expecting that I want to
fight because he didn't throw a lot of punches. I
throw a lot of punches. And I reviewed the company
box like slow motion from personal to Pearl Brown's slow motion,
like how many? How many punches get connected? And how many?
(36:20):
How many punts of him connected? I won't like two
two runs from him, but I had That's that's uh,
you know, that's boxing. I'm not complaining or making you know,
just it happened that way. It happened to me in
many times, like the Jeff Horns Bradley won, like.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
The Brobably fight, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Did you try to get a rematch?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
You did you want a rematch with Floyd?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
With Floyd, I'm still active.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's up to him. It's going to fight so you
will even fight him today. You would even fight him today.
You win your fighter, He said, Hey, manny I wanna fight.
You're gonna fight.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Even here.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh my goodness, even here. Yeah, that fire never dies man,
and never now.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
My my, my man, my right hand is complain too.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, you'll be willing to do it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
You will see my condition in the fight.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, you see.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Terrence Crawford now just moved up to one point fifty four.
Then he's moving up again two way classes against Canwa.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
What do you think about that fight?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's a good fight, but Canilo has advantage his favorite
because that's his natural weight.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And then.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Uh, Crowpord moving up.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
If Crowpord don't know how to handle or manage his
body in his condition, his footwork, everything like that to
moving up very difficult. He needs to handle and maintain
the speed and improve his power. That's that's what I did,
(38:09):
Like maintain your speed and improve your power.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
To get respect from the bigger man.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yes, of course, Like what when I fought.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
The Margarito, Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Crazy. Your power carried up he went up with me.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yes, like it's hard.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I mean I have to a lot of works at
the gym, like I trained like three four hours a day.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
What can we expect from your money? And you'll find July?
What can the fans expect from Many Pacyall you know?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
All I can say is like I always bring surprises
to the fans.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Surprise.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I always bring surprises.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's many Baca. Then your son was on the undercar.
You're nervous, you feel excited? How you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Actually yeah, I am. I feel nervous to his fight.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Than my fight.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Mm hmm. But you're excited for him too.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm excited because you know, I am blessed because uh,
I cannot.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Imagine that in my career.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
I can that's I can see my my sonbelievable, right, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I heard he's been here training even when you were
back in the Philippines.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, he stayed in La.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah he is training studying. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Last question, Mannie, what brings you happiness and enjoy at
this stage in your life?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Bring me happiness? There the Lord?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
My relations to God. I want to get closer closer
to God, like I'm reading the Bible, pray continually and
memorizing churs, sharing to others how God loves us and
all of us. The Lord wants us to be united
and caring, sharing to others. Those who are hunger we have,
(40:13):
we should feed them. Those who are Thursday, we should
give them something to drink. And those who are don't
have shelter, we give them shelter. That's how.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
That's the love of God.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
If we really love God, if we really believe God,
then confirm it by our action.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
That's how we claim that we believe God.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Because there are so many people in the world that
claiming that they believe God, but by their actions, they're
not confirming, so they don't really believe God.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
They just know God. So believing in in uh in.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Believing and claiming is different because when you believe, you obey.
When you claiming believe that they don't, you don't obey that.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
It's just just just know God.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We champion. Thank you so much man for your thank you.
I appreciate you. Man. That's a rat. We in a dungeon.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
You hear speedbags, heavy bags. I think we had somebody
playing a guitar outside, Like.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
We're in a dungeon. Man, this is just what it is.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
We're a wild card. I'm happy that Manny took the time. Man,
he's had a long day of training. It's not easy
to do these kind of interviews, especially after a long
day of training.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So Manny, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Man tune into the fight July nineteenth. We appreciate you
guys tuning in for another episode.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
That's a right thank you and thank you brother
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