February 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Friend of the show, Shakur Stevenson is back for round 2 on THE ART OF WARD! In this exclusive interview, the boxing superstar checks in with Andre while in camp for his February 22nd fight against Floyd Schofield on the undercard of Beterbiev vs Bivol 2. Shakur opens up about his training, previews the matchup, and explains why he chose Schofield. Plus, Shakur spills the tea on his heated encounter with Vasyl Lomachenko at Bud Crawford's last fight—and how Loma ducked his fight offer afterward. And he takes shots at Teofimo Lopez and Ryan Garcia, keeping the trash talk real. Shakur also dives into his relationship with rising star Keyshawn Davis, Turki Alalshikh, and explains what it’s been like working with Eddie Hearn, and even shares his thoughts on the massive Canelo vs. Crawford mega-fight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome back to another episode of the Art Award Today.
My guests ain't really a guest, he's a friend of
the show. He's a brother. He's a bad man in
that ring. He's a three division world champion. He's a
former unified junior lightweight champion. I want to welcome back
to the show my brother, Shakor Stevenson. What's up, brother?
You got you got the look, you got the feel
(00:21):
look like, man, you're getting close. You gotta fight coming
up February twenty second against Floyd Schofield. And the last
time we spoke was the Terrence Crawford's fight fight week
against Majamal. Tell me how camp has been going for
the fight with Schofield and how you feeling.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Camp been going great. I've been real locked in, I've
been focused. I've been putting in a lot of work.
I had some great sparing as the day with Sean Porter.
I got some sparring in with you. We gotta talk
about that real we we finally got our rounds in.
You said you didn't think we was gonna ever get
the rounds in. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I finally dusted off I mean I literally dusted off
my sparring equipment. Bro, I had to go to the
stores uned to get I did a little mini can't
you know what I'm saying? Three four weeks, I'm gonna
be playing about this, Bro. Somebody said they want to
spar I go far, but four weeks I spared you.
Four weeks? Yeah, how was it?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We finally got in there. Honestly, it was like a
for me. It was a dream come true, just because
of the fact that I like watched you since like
a baby. Like when I was with your all I
used to do is study your tape over and over
and over. Dam. When I was in there today, it
was certain things I'm watching and I'm waiting for you
(01:31):
to do, like okay, he about to do anybout make
sure it doesn't touch me. But I'm doing the same thing.
That's as I say, go that way, I know you
want to go that way. Through that you know that
right that left hand. For me, it was like a
dream come true though, just to be in there with
you and like learning and even like some of the
little stuff you was doing in there. I'm going to
take that with me for my next fight, said, try
(01:52):
to use it on other guys. So I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I was dope. Man, I'm glad we got it,
got a chance to get it in. You ain't think
we was gonna do He's like, yeah, ever Squat said,
but I'm gonna give you some work.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I just gotta get ready. Yeah, we gotta run it
back though. We gotta run it back though.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I want to do it again. Yeah for sure, here
for sure. But y'all try to do me in though.
Y'all try to do four minute around for thirty second pers.
I know what y'all trying to do. But your boy
came ready, man, condition it was on point.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Sure for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Lord, tell me about Scholfield. Man, how did that fight
come about? And then after you tell me that, I'm
gonna get to the I guess you can get to
the timeline now because there's a lot of stopping and going.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Honestly, it really came about because they were doing a
lot of yapping online, and I'm the guy who kind
of picked up the phone call and just said, come on,
let's make this fight happen. A lot of other people
didn't really want the fight to happen. A lot of
top people in the world ain't want to fight to happen,
but I wanted to fight to happen, just because of
the fact that they've been constantly using my name to
(02:47):
build their profile. Love, So now it's put up a
shut up.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Do you look at him as a prospect that's taking
something too soon, or do you look at him like
a contender right now?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think he contend to hear a dangerous young fighter.
At the end of the day, I was the same
age when I fought for my first word title, and
I know how hungry I was. I was very hungry.
I worked very hard to make sure that I became champions.
So I don't look at him like no prospect.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
And you know his father was doing a lot of talking,
and I hear his father really more to him. Do
y'all got any history? Do you remember him from the amateurs?
It was you a little bit older than him.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was older than him, but I spared him. I
spared him. He came down in Houston one time. I guess, uh,
Jay and them call my phone like they got this
kid that wanted to inspire me in You know me,
I just pull up and inspire anybody. Sorry, we worked.
What was that work?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Can you talk about it. I thought it was easy work.
I thought it was easy work.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The real thing is like, after he got out the
ring with me, he kept telling me how I was
the greatest fight he ever been in the ring with,
and all yes, after he got out of the ring.
But years later, you know, on the media, these guys
want to build their name up to the media and
they want to build a profile, so now they start
(04:09):
saying different things. But after he got out the ring,
he told me that I was his favorite fighter he
ever been in a ring with. He watched me so much,
and he knew he knew what happened in as far
as session.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So before this fight with Schofield got made, you were
getting ready with scheduled to fight Cordena. Yeah, and you
had training camp in Las Vegas and then you ended
up injuring your hand. How far were you in camp
before you injured your hand.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think we had a month left. I want to
say a month. I think the fight was October twelfth,
so it probably was a good month that we had left.
And I injured my hand, and you know that happens. Man,
What does that feel like like?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Te the people when you spend the money you leave camp,
you in a whole nother state few states over from
where you live, and you in a mix. You're getting
ready and you start you trying to peek, you trying
to get everything right on in the band. You have
a setback like that where it's like you gotta call
your people. Now, you gotta call it. What does that
feel like?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's a bad feeling just because of the fact that
how you just said, like you spend so much money
on training camp. You know, you get airbnb's, you paying
for a sparring partner, coaches vehicle to drive back and
forth front of the gym. So it's a horrible feeling
to where you spend all that money and you don't
(05:25):
get it back after finding out that you injured your hand,
hurt yourself, and it's like all that money just go
down the drain. So now, honestly, you know, I just
gotta live with it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's crazy to me because every time a fighter gets injured,
you know what the fans gonna say, Oh, he's scared,
Oh he's the oh hes ducking is It's like they
don't understand, man, It's just come up the territory. And
it really the way the way we grinding as many bags,
we hitting as much song. We really should be happening
more than it really does.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They gonna hate me when I say this, but I'm
gonna keep saying it, like I appreciate the fans that
support me, but it ain't about like what the fans
got to say no more, because it's like if I
go in there with an injured hand and I'll go
fight and I fineesh the god beat the guy one hand.
(06:15):
Oh he looked bad this night. He's not a good fighter.
He's not this. But then if I say forget it
and not go in there and tell them I'm not fighting.
I injured my hand, I gotta heal. Oh you're scared.
So it's like it's a lose lose situation regarded regardless
at the end of the day. So I honestly had
(06:37):
to throw out the window, like what the fans thinking, then,
no disrespect. I appreciate the ones that support me, though, But.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's a little bit different than when we talked last time.
When I talked to you last time, you want it
all the smoke, for sure, you want it all the smoke.
It was like, I don't care you say something. I'm
shooting back. Why to change your heart at least to
change your mind? Right now, I think you just get
old and wiser, cause it's like.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Some days, you know, I do wake up and I
go back and forth with them, and then I realized,
like it's pointless. It's a pointless game because at the
end of the day, I got the type of talents
that I'm so good, I'm never gonna be in a
winning situation with the fans. Even if I go out
there and cook this dude Scofield, they gonna find an
(07:22):
excuse to say, oh, he was a prospect or he
wasn't this saying regardless of whatever I do, it's never
gonna be a winning situation. So I just got live
with it. That's part of the game.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So he was trending to face Williams of Paya in
February if he got out of his fight with Tepan Farmer.
So tell me about that fight. You think Teppan won
that fight or do you think the petty pulled it off?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Now I thought it was a Peter pulled it off
just because of it was a lot of rounds where
so Peta was active and Tevin really wasn't doing too much.
But I thought Tevin had the bigger moments in the fight.
I thought that Tevin hit him with the bigger shot.
He had real good moments in the fight. I just
don't think it was enough to win the fight. But
(08:05):
it was a hell of a fight.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So he gets out the fight and then the worst
happens to him.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
When did your team get win it?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Like, Okay, this stuff ain't gonna it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We're not gonna fight. I heard that it was a
hand injury. But I can't be a hypocrite because at
the end of the day, like you just say in
my camp, I hurt my hand, so he hurt his
in the fight. Yeah, just hope it get better and
hopefully we could make the fight happen. But the real
problem and the issue is is like I've been calling
this guy out for so long, and I've been trying
(08:35):
to make this fight happen so many times, and it's
like over and over we can't get the fight to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So you feel like it's gonna happen one day.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm I don't know, I'm unsure of like fights for
any of these guys, Like I don't I don't know.
You know, I get hyped up for fights happening, and
then it's like you get turned down when it don't happen.
So it's like I try not to even think about
it no more.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I have me understand that. I think I have
an idea, but like it don't seem like it's a
lot of guys like running to fight you and I don't,
you know, I don't. I try not to get caught
up and all. This guy scared, that guy scared everybody. Fighters,
But your style, right, like hitting not getting hit. People
don't realize that other fighters who can't deal with that style,
(09:22):
they fear that style. They would almost want to fight
a banger. Yes, then somebody that's gonna make them look
silly hit them when they can't hit him back. Do
you think that's why you don't get a lot of
these names, Like really, I ain't talking about just back
and forth on Twitter. I'm saying really calling you out,
like here's a contract. I think that's why you're not
getting some of these big fights.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm one hundred percent sure that's why I'm not getting
on the big fighters. I think that fighters want to
go in there and they want to know that they
have a chance at winning, and when they watch me,
it's like they don't feel like they will have a
chance at beating me because I don't give opportunities, don't
give up free shots, I don't get hit with big shots,
and I just feel like fighters is gett of that.
(10:00):
Fighters want to have an opportunity to win.
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Speaker 1 (10:51):
Tell me about your relationship with Turkey Alashiek. I know Bud,
it's his favorite fighter, but he speaks very highly of you.
Relationship with him, and how did that come about?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Honestly, we have a great relationship. I sat down with
him and I actually like got to like talk with
him and see like what type of person he is,
and he just seemed like a very good person and
we made some business happen. What I like the most
about like him, he want the fights that are like competitive,
(11:22):
like the fifty to fifty fights to this guy could
win to fight. This guy could win to fight, And
I respect that because that's how like my mentality is.
I would want to be in the ring with guys
that I feel like, you know, it's it should be
a fifty to fifty fight. I don't think nobody's fifty
fifty with me, but for the fans in the public
and stuff like that. So I like when I met Turkey,
(11:45):
and I love the way that his approach to the
game is. And he's paying for.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It too, for sure, you know, sure like people be
complaining when it's like, oh, he's messing up the game,
and I'm like, well, give him some time to figure
out how it's gonna look five years, two years on
the road. But right now he's paying fighters or overpaying fire,
whatever you want to call it, and I would rather
you do that than underpay fighters. So most of the
time promoter's trying to get a networks, trying to get
(12:10):
a tough fight for low money. So he flipped this,
I'm gonna give you a tough fight for maximum money.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Because he fighted first. That's something like I, when I
talk to him say, I don't want to put everything
out there, but as far as when I talk to him,
it seems like he's fighter first. So that's the thing
that I love the most. You know, we're the ones
that's going in the ring game, risking our lives in
the ring game, putting everything on the line. So I
think we deserve to be paid a lot of money
(12:37):
for doing this stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So I appreciate him, and I don't think that I
call him the suits. A lot of the business people,
promoters sometimes network executive, they don't always look at us
like humans, like you know what I'm saying, like and
I like this guy, it's more like you just hey,
he's got a name, he doesn't have a name. He
can make us money. He can't like you just it's
a business. You replaceable, which which is which is cool?
I get it, you know what I'm saying, But it is.
(13:00):
It is cool having somebody that like really loved his things.
And man, I got I'm like a kid right now.
I want to see this by that, by that, bight,
here go the money fat they're.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Talking about some MS two facts. So I love it. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So with the with the Schofield fight coming on, was
it any other names that y'all was looking at that
that was real possibilities?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Honestly, it was mainly the payda. I didn't really have
no other possibilities. It was more so like me. They
asked me who I want to fight, and I told
them give me Schofield, just because I already told Schofield
it's a pay to pull out to fight, I'm gonna
fight him. So I had to like keep my word
(13:39):
too and not just be like a hypocrite and saying
people ducking me. And it's a guy right now that's
calling my name out.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So what is it about Schofield that makes him dangerous?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think what makes the most dangerous is the unexpected,
Like you don't know, you have no clue how good
years and how good he can be. So just the
unexpected to where you got to go find out in
the ring on fight night is like what makes him
the most dangerous because he hasn't really thought at this
(14:12):
level yet. So can he fight at this level? Is
he good enough to fight at this level where let's see,
he had me rolling though?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Bro? He posted that, uh that story about you make
your first million? This dude posted that before even went
the camp. I'm like, brother, that ain't it?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Like you count this money that you ain't even don't
never count money you know you ain't had, you know,
So that's just I think that's just his you know,
inexperience and excitement going into this fight.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I think his father played part two though something like that.
I feel like his father should be telling him, like,
calm down, let's handle business first, and then.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's gonna be a lot more than millions. Yeah, at
this stage in your career, bro, is it hard to
get up for a sort of unknown fighter like this.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's what I needed to work on the most. Like,
I think that's the biggest downfall like far as me,
because like, if you pay attention to my career, sometimes
when it's like the no name fighters and it's the
fighters that's like the fans don't really know. I'm not
(15:21):
gonna say my motivation because I trained hard every time,
but like mentally getting up and.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
And and.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Going out there to want to put on a performance
and all that kind of stuff, it kind of goes
down with I give example, how I fought Knackatilla and
everybody said boom, he suck. It was a bad fight, boring.
Then the next fight I thought jamiling it was like
it's a bigger name. I got up and I wanted
to perform. And so now I think like now for me,
(15:53):
it's like just working on it to where no matter
who you fight, it should be the same with this guy,
with that guy, I should be taking this kid Schofield.
God Like I'm like, I'm gonna be taking the Javont
Tank Davis. So but how do you do that? Though?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Because I hear some people say elite guys are always up.
How do you stay up?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
How?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
How does that mentally? How did the mental part of it?
Because you can We've been doing this boxing thing long enough,
we could do this in our sleep. I go train
just whatever my mind may not be in it. How
do you stay locked in to not slip? I think
you just gotta. I think for me, I just.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Gotta have like a fear of somebody taking my spot,
Like I gotta make it to where I feel like
it's a fear there, like I don't want this kid
to take my spot. I don't want this kid to
come and take away what I don't work for for
years and years and years. So I gotta go hard.
I gotta go out there and beat this guy up
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and let him know you're not taking this away.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
From me, because thing's changing this sport quick. If you
seen it, you ain't even gotta lose. Fact, you know
what you being at that level? If you don't look
it feel like an ill. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So I think for me, that was one of my
biggest things. Was like if I'm finding to tune up
or a real dude, it's like that, like I can't.
(17:17):
I can't let y'all. I can't let y'all. I'll be
looking thinking about press row getting it. Ain't looking at
all them dudes, them computers like they wait, they wait.
I'm thinking about all the stuff my opponents said, all
the stuff the media said that that was that helped
me stay locked in in the in the in. The
main thing too is you can't you're not taking no
food up my baby's.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Mom facts and if I lose, I'm be.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Getting that call. Yeah, we can't give you that no
more that we got to renegotiate your minimum. So now
we're gonna give you this, but you still gotta fight
a tough God. I wasn't trying to hear none. It's
so crazy how you just said.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You just said the media like that of being your
brain and stuff like it's crazy. I need to like
get back like that because that was another thing like
when I thought Jamail like it was like the media
and everything bothered me. But now it's like I think
I'm at a point to where like I don't care.
(18:07):
I don't care because it's a lame game. I feel
like I'm playing like it don't feel like the same
game as it was when I thought Jamel and I
just had a bad performance with Knackatilla. It feels like
it's just very lame, Like it's so much lame stuff
going on to where it's like I can go and
perform good and it's still always gonna be some negative,
(18:30):
so I probably do gotta get back like how you
just said.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But really, yeah, it ain't that like you got to
give them too much credit, you know, because they all
over the place and they they going on how they
feel and they don't really know what's really going on
with the fighter or really about this sport. Some do,
but many dumb. It's really just giving it, giving it
an episode.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not gonna focus
on y'all, but I hear you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
My focus is.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Here though, but I hear you, and y'all gonna y'all
gonna eat the words.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, see, I gotta get back like that. So you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Before Eddie, before Turkey, your contract with Top Rank ended
in July twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Why didn't y'all work that out?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Was it any talks of y'all resigning, like, tell me
about that split?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Naw, it was definitely talks.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I sat down with them, and honestly what happened was,
I'm like an energy person, So like if I sit
down like I'm sitting down with you, and the energy
is good, that's like that's vibe for me. But I
sat down in the meeting with them, and it was
like like a whatever energy, like okay, like you're not
(19:44):
gonna make more nowhere else, so take it or leave
it or And that was the kind of energy that
I was kind of feeling at the meeting that I
had with ty Ranking. From that meeting, it was just
like made me want to go and really like let
me see, like let me see if what y'all saying
is true or amy who I say I am, Man,
(20:06):
I could go make more money somewhere else than being
with y'all and doing whatever y'all say type type of things.
So I think really like it was a great contract
that they offered me to renew, Yeah, to renew they
wanted to offer. I ain't gonna say what it was,
but it was a great, great contract. But truthfully, like
(20:28):
the energy at that meeting was like I ain't feel appreciated.
I ain't feel like I was who I was at
that time. Man, I ain't like the way they was.
You know, Bob was cool. Bob was always the cool
guy to me, Like he always had a great energy.
But it's the people that's also inside the company that
(20:49):
I just wasn't really feeling so it was.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't know if you were able to say, but
can you say who was who was kind of on
the table for.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You before you settled with Eddie?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Hint? Like which was it any like any people you
were talking to other promotional companies and other other companies
that you felt like, man, this may.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Be a good look. No, I really really was. Honestly,
you gotta realize in boxing right now, it's really three places.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You can go down.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, Like it ain't a whole lot of like different place.
I mean maybe a Golden Boy, But for me, I
don't think Oscar and me just like will fit right.
You know, I got a whole bunch of stuff going
on too. So if I can't like talk to the
main guy, like I know who I am as a
as a fighter, as a businessman, as a who I am,
(21:37):
I know who I am, So I would want to
sit down with the god that's the guy. If I'm
not sitting down with the executive, the guys that's the guys,
then what we're doing, we ain't no business really gonna
be done in here. So truthfully, but Tyrank was they
gave me a great offer, but Eddie kind of. I like,
(21:59):
I like Eddie, and Eddie got real good energy.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So you settle with Eddie the match room. But if
I'm not mistaken, it was a short term situation.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah. What is it about Eddie though that you like?
He remind me of like the like a new age
don King. Really, Yeah, Like, I like the way he talks,
like he'll go out there and he actually doing the job.
Because the job to be a promoter. Right, Let's say
like top rank, Right, they got Bob Arron, He's the promoter.
(22:29):
What they're supposed to be doing is promoting the fighter.
I mean, get it out there, selling the fighter. Sometimes
Bob is like too real for his own good to
where he can't really do his job the right way.
So he gonna go out there and say things that's like,
you're not helping your fighter. You're hurting your fighter when
you say these things. So with Eddie, I kind of
(22:51):
like the way that he talk. I like the way
he go out there and he sells the product. And
I think that's like the job of a promote.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So what he told the media, and I'm talking about
Eddie Hearn was he said cordeena paya and Tank. I
know you said you don't know if any of them
guys don't getting the ring, But is that a real
possibility for him to deliver on what he said he
could deliver on. I know some of that was out
of his hands with the injuries.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, I think it kind of changed the tune. I
don't think Cordina was in the plans. I think it's
more so I think it's a paida and then Tank.
Far as what I heard, I think that they you know,
they're gonna do everything that they can to make the
fight happen. So it's not on the promoters all the time.
It's the fighters that got to say yes or no,
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and we'll see, we'll see. I don't want to get
my hopes up in then be down about it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And you really don't have no problem fighting anybody in
your weight class or maybe even the way somebody below
or above your weight class if it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm willing to fight any and everybody, Like like I said,
as long as the money makes it. We're getting ring
and squabble. I like all the big fights. I want
to fight everybody and just show people that I am
better than all these guys.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So you just came back from London from the Ring
Magazine award show. A lot of great fighters there, some older,
some present fighters. Tell me what that was like being
out there with all them different fighters and some of
your ops.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Too, honestly, like it was kind of cool, but it
was like it was cool to just be in a
room with like some of the great fighters. But like
how you say, like the ops and all of that,
I was in my own world, Like I really wasn't
like next to them guys, like I've seen them, but
it's like, go about your business. I don't really got
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nothing to say to you. But y'all don't never like nah,
I mean, it's nothing to say.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They get spicy on social and then I'm wondering if
we all pass each other, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
And that's the thing, I'll be ready and that like
we in England, right, we in England and we had
a Ring magazine, a big so like I'm so ready
already to where it's like, I know what's best is
to just keep it moving, don't even because me I
might just go to a different level and then we
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might be getting locked up and it be all types
of stuff that it shouldn't be. So I mean, it
was cool to see them, but I think all of
them guys is kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
But what do the energy be like when you pet
like y'all in the same room. Is it like y'all
looking at each other is and everybody looking straight ahead?
Like what type of time y'all?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I don't tuck my tails, I'm saying. Everybody I be
looking at like peeping on the only person who who
seem to have energy that I would say, But it
was like like femaleless energy for me, uh TiO. Everybody
else was like looking away, but t O was the
only one. We're kind of like what you mean by that.
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He's like he wants the center of attention, like he
got to be the guy like to like everybody needs
to pay attention to me. Like that's like a girl, like, bro,
we all in here with great fighters. We all is
like top level fighters in here. It should just be
respect and we men too. So it's like I don't need, like,
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you know, I need everybody pay attention to me. I
go sit down somewhere, chill out, relax, you know. But
I think with him, he was kind of like little
girl something. Yeah. Yeah, it was Ryan like Ryan I
really ain't even get to see Ryan. I've seen Ryan,
but from a distance. I really ain't get to like
run into him. But I can't even tell you I
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seen him from a distance. So you also were supposed
to announce your fight with Schofield. He didn't show up, right,
He was like, man, he gonna pull out the fight.
He like, somebody stole my passport to book the page
of my passport.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
They set me up. What did you make about him
not showing up to the press conference.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'm actually scared, Like I'm actually scared that they not
gonna show up to the fight. And I'm gonna go
put in all of this, Yes, all of this work
I'm putting in right now. I just feel like they
looking for excuse, like they looking for a way out,
Like why why are you running from a million dollars?
I mean I can't. He did the picture. I'm making
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my first million dollars?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Why running from that?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
But why would you go make up a lie and
say that somebody I said, somebody to steal your passport?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh, yes, I thought he said something. Just a random
person did it?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Nah? He said you sent somebody to steal the page
to take it? He said, basically, somebody broke into his
house and they ripped the page out of his past square.
I'm not making this up so now, like it got
me worried because it's like, are you going to show
up on Ta Sarti or are you gonna say somebody
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stole your passport or you're gonna make up some type
of excuse to why you're not coming to the fight.
But I mean people telling me he's still out here talking,
so hopefully he should.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I got to do better research because I ain't know
that you. I didn't know he accused you sending somebody
to him.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, dang, yeah, he said it was me. I seen
somebody to do it. I don't even know where he's at.
I have no clue, right I can't tell you right
now where he's at. Why would you do that? Though?
I don't know and I ain't catcher, I have no
clue that you do.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You know, like in the past where it's multiple pages, though,
so somebody rip a page out, it's like it's other
pages you can stand to get.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
They said it was the signature page, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
For his signature. Yeah, wow, wow, man, I'm gonna switch
gears for a second.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Bron, how long you been knowing Keyshine? I knew keyshawing
shid he was thirteen.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I seen something on I g man, I say,
y'all playing with the fans and stuff, doing the place off.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Bro, just just just tracking me for a second.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So you the WBC light Way Champ.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, I got that right, right? Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He uh he getting ready to fight Baranchick for the WBO,
right yep. And I know y'all say, y'all ain't gonna
ever fight. I can't see it happening now, But like
you mean to tell me if Turkey Alashick, say, listen,
that's the fight I want here, he push a truckload
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of money your way and a truckload of money his
way in.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Two years street, what's the truck lot?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Brother to money? You ain't never seen.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
The far Look, this is how I look at it, right,
y'all ain't gonna fight. That's my brother, that's my brothers
fight for free, I feel you and I would fight
him for free, like if it's some me and whom
you know. But I like want some real talk, like
I can't really just picture like my family and his
family at a fight night, and like they're going against
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each other, like Keon is your kid? Like they so close,
it's like know they just don't. It ain't the same
for me, Like I don't know, man, we could be close.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Listen, I ain't talking about just to fight to fight
all because y'all say, I'm saying life changing money and
I know it ain't all about the money. But this
with you and they, y'all got all the belts and
it just started making a whole lot of sense two
years from now, Like, Bro, it really ain't nobody for me.
I could fight this dude, but Waite less money, he
could fight that dude. Y'all ain't gonna put that business
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hat on and get in a ruman site. Bro, I
love you, I support you, but we can't past this.
A we ain't never gotta fight again with this with
this number. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know. It's it's kind of hard because this
is a situational type of thing. But for me, how
I'm feeling right now, like I wouldn't fight you, Shan,
that's my brother man Turkey. I wouldn't even fight. I
wouldn't fight my blood brother at the right time.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I ain't do what you do.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I wouldn't fight my blood brother. Be surprised that that happened.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Two years from now, Bro, year and a half from now.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I mean, it's an awful.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Man. Y'all got me thinking while y'all playing with.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
People then, because you know y'all, y'all, y'all.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Playing with it, while y'all playing with it with the
I G and the social.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Fans, that's what they want. That's all they keep talking about. Something.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Y'all gonna make it, make it giving them.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
We're giving them a vision, so that that's the fighting stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But tell me, like, tell the fans, tell me, like
what type of dude is of course Stevens are Outside
of boxing.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm a family man, Like I'm the type of person
I just sit at home and chill my daughter all
day and be on that game. I play the game
for sure. I'm a competitor too, like I gotta do
something that like keep my competitive mindset going. So I
like to play ping pong basketball.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Give me that pain poon along when I'm in town.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Feel me. Yeah, I can't wait to see you again.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You give me in any game, no call of duty
or something, the pain. Leave that alone.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm about to go give me one of them patterns
that I'm like that I was gonna play j Jason
year leader that paddle let the have. But nah, I'm
a family man, Like I really just be kicking in
my daughter and my family all day. That's just who
I am.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What type of businessman's of course, Stevens and you negotiate
harder you be giving in.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Nah, I definitely negotiate Yard. I'm one of them guys.
I'm trying to get as much money as possible for
myself whoever I'm working with, So I'm definitely one of them.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Tell me about your deal with Reebok Man, that's big.
It ain't a lot of fighters that got a brand
deal like that. Tell me how that came about?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This guy, Jason. He was in contact with my cousin, Terray,
and they was kind of talking and he told him
that Rebok want to sign me, and he didn't put
me on the phone with Jason and Jason had like
this whole team together. And at first I thought it
was cap because it's like my cousin he telling me it,
but he wasn't really saying like everything that they was
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gonna tell me. So when I got on the phone,
and it was like five six people on the phone
call and they all talking, and honestly, I knew it
was really Honestly, I appreciate Rebok because they really been
showing me love, like they've really been like looking out
for me. And I got to say, I appreciate Shaq
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because he told me he was the one who really
called and made that call for me. So I appreciate Shack,
I appreciate Reeboking, I appreciate everything they do. I was
gonna ask you about that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I know, you know sometime with the big names, like
they busy and stuff, but like you had any interaction
with Shaq or Ai crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I've been having interactions with Shaq for like years. You know,
Shaq from Newark. We're from the same city, so you
know what neighborhood he from. I can't tell you what
neighborhood from Newark he from nort But I've been talking
with Shaq probably since I've been like since like twenty eighteen.
I want to say. It was one day he hit
me up and asked me for my number. Then he
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just called me and he just was giving me some
game and stuff. So shock definitely he that dude for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And that's dope.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Tell me about your relationship with Jay Prince and Josh Dubin.
You know, they've been been with you from the beginning.
Like what do they bring to your life and to
to the business side.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Another another two people that I appreciate so much. I think, Uh,
j Prince, him and Josh is two different people. Yeah
for sure, Yeah, they too people, but they definitely far
as business wise, they are very strong. They strong minded
in they not taking no for answer. Jay, he been
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with me hands on in Houston. Me and him live
in the same city, so Jay Ben kind of make
sure I were straight since I don't got to Houston.
So I appreciate him for that. Josh, I appreciate him
just because he was here a shark when they come
to business, like he wanted them dudes that he gonna
step on the gas and he gonna get everything that
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we want out of every deal that we make.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So yeah, he loved hard Man, and it's like he
protects hard too. He family, and that's the type of
person you want on the front line. And nobody play
with your name, your money, contract, none of that fact.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You know. Yeah, that's that's that's my brother.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I love him, man, and the same thing with Jay.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I appreciate you too, though I wouldn't tell you that
because you the person that really introduced me to Josh
and Jay and put this whole structure really around me.
So I appreciate you for that too, for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Man. That's what I'm here for. What's your thoughts on
Terrence Crawford Terrence Bud Crawford's last fight.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I thought that I thought he fought good, real good.
I thought that that Madamov is not like an easy
fighter to fight, so, like you know, you're gonna get criticism,
but I thought he looked good. I thought he picked
good shots. Maybe sometimes he could have stepped on the gas,
but like that's what he would say. But for me personally,
I yeah, I thought he did enough.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And he closed the way he was supposed when he
needed them. Last two rounds he stepped up.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, but he'll tell you that he feels like he
could have did more, but that's Bud. So I thought
that was a good fight for him.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So we don't know for show, but it looked like
his rumor September Terrence Crawford Canelo Alvarez, it looked like
Canelo's gonna take his fight in May. Looks like Budd
is gonna by pass the mayfight and just focus on September.
That's what's being rumored. What are your thoughts on Terrence Crawford,
Canelo Alvarez, Terrence going up another two way classes, just
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got the fifty fold. He's skipping six. He going straight
to sixty. He ain't talking about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I feel like once he beat Canelo, that will be
like one of the greatest resumes in boxing ever, just
because of the fact that he's going up two divisions
just to fight this guy and this guy's bigger than him. Man,
not only did you just crush Aero Spence, but you
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go out there and just and the way that he
beats Canelo too. If he go out there and just
dominate and make it an easy fight, honestly, I think
that that's gonna be like one of the best resumes
I ever seen. But far as the fight, I feel
like Bud could be him easy.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
How don't give me everything?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Just hot for me. It's a blueprint already. It's literally
blueprints to see. Floyd was a lot smaller than Cannelo
when he for them. You keep Conelo on the outside.
I ain't gonna even say too much, but you can
keep it on the outside, then make it an easy night.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
So how would you like to see Bud go out
right now? Because getting closer that time, I think.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's the fight. I think that fight and then just
call it. I'm done. What else is there to prove
after being Canelo? There's nothing else to prove. It can't
go up no more. I mean unless you want to
go fight USI you seventy five.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
If you fight us, then man for So at Bud's
last fight, you got into a Woloma chank on. What's
set that off? And then why haven't we gotten that fight?
To two part question?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yo, it's so weird. Like I'm glad you asked this
question too when I seen him, because I knew already
that when I seen I seen him on TV, I'm like, oh,
lem a chankle here, nah, Like I really gotta go
ask him why we not fighting? What is like the
in between of the issue to like why we not fighting?
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So I leave out of bud locker room, I go
out there to the to the fights. I go to.
I see him sitting down. I go up to him
as he's sitting down, like yo, why we not fighting?
While we not fighting? And it's like he just lost
his cool or something like I never seen. It was
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kind of weird for me because I ain't never seen
living Tenko like lose is cool. Like he got up, Oh,
we can fight right now? We could fight, That's what
it was so weird. But mind you, at first it
was no cameras around at first, So when he's saying it,
they like we could fight right now, I'm like, come on,
like come on, like nobody really paying attention to us
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at the moment. Then he got up, came around security
I guess came in between. But it was like a
weird situation for me just because like he's willing to
like basically want to scrap right there, but you don't
want to fight me, Like you don't want to get
in a ring and box for me and make millions
and millions of dollars. I've been calling your name for
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how long now? Like what is like what is what
are you doing? And it was funny, like it was
mad funny to me because he's like pump faked, Like
he's pump faked, like I know somebody pumping. He's pump faked.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So it happened after that with no discussion with top rank.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Now of that nothing I ain't. I mean, actually I
actually for this fight. I actually reached out and said
camp I fight Chank win. They said he didn't want
to fight, That's what they said. Yes, I reached out
and they said they were going to hit up on
Egos because you know he worked with Egosts and they
hit him up and nope, what I don't know what
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else to do.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's the one I want to see, Bro, That's the
fight I want too. Yeah, there's a lot of fights
I want to see you in, Bro, but.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I think limit Chenko is the fight where it's like
the fans and the public will be more so attracted
to it. And I think it'll be easier fight than
people even expect. Like I think I'm a chank go
easy word for me, truthfully, what's show?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What's the message that you're trying to see in February
twenty second, Like with what you're trying to leave Saudi
Arabia with, what's the message you want to leave in
people's mind.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I'm just the best boxing, That's it. I want people
to know that I'm the best boxer. None of these
dudes could beat me. And are they really gonna feel
that demologist kid? Probably not, but I'm gonna try to
aim for it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
But Brother, as always, Man, I appreciate you opening up camp.
I know these interviews are hard. I know you're trying
to get your rest. You probably got another training session
or something, Bro, So I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Bro, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Now, You're welcome anytime on the show. My boy. That's it.
That's it, Bro. Thank y'all, man for tuning in another
dope episode. My little brother World Champion looking to retain
this title February twenty second against Floyd Schofield. Thank y'all
for tapping in
And welcome back to another episode of the Art Award Today.
My guests ain't really a guest, he's a friend of
the show. He's a brother. He's a bad man in
that ring. He's a three division world champion. He's a
former unified junior lightweight champion. I want to welcome back
to the show my brother, Shakor Stevenson. What's up, brother?
You got you got the look, you got the feel
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look like, man, you're getting close. You gotta fight coming
up February twenty second against Floyd Schofield. And the last
time we spoke was the Terrence Crawford's fight fight week
against Majamal. Tell me how camp has been going for
the fight with Schofield and how you feeling.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Camp been going great. I've been real locked in, I've
been focused. I've been putting in a lot of work.
I had some great sparing as the day with Sean Porter.
I got some sparring in with you. We gotta talk
about that real we we finally got our rounds in.
You said you didn't think we was gonna ever get
the rounds in. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I finally dusted off I mean I literally dusted off
my sparring equipment. Bro, I had to go to the
stores uned to get I did a little mini can't
you know what I'm saying? Three four weeks, I'm gonna
be playing about this, Bro. Somebody said they want to
spar I go far, but four weeks I spared you.
Four weeks? Yeah, how was it?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
We finally got in there. Honestly, it was like a
for me. It was a dream come true, just because
of the fact that I like watched you since like
a baby. Like when I was with your all I
used to do is study your tape over and over
and over. Dam. When I was in there today, it
was certain things I'm watching and I'm waiting for you
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to do, like okay, he about to do anybout make
sure it doesn't touch me. But I'm doing the same thing.
That's as I say, go that way, I know you
want to go that way. Through that you know that
right that left hand. For me, it was like a
dream come true though, just to be in there with
you and like learning and even like some of the
little stuff you was doing in there. I'm going to
take that with me for my next fight, said, try
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to use it on other guys. So I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I was dope. Man, I'm glad we got it,
got a chance to get it in. You ain't think
we was gonna do He's like, yeah, ever Squat said,
but I'm gonna give you some work.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I just gotta get ready. Yeah, we gotta run it
back though. We gotta run it back though.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I want to do it again. Yeah for sure, here
for sure. But y'all try to do me in though.
Y'all try to do four minute around for thirty second pers.
I know what y'all trying to do. But your boy
came ready, man, condition it was on point.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Sure for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Lord, tell me about Scholfield. Man, how did that fight
come about? And then after you tell me that, I'm
gonna get to the I guess you can get to
the timeline now because there's a lot of stopping and going.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Honestly, it really came about because they were doing a
lot of yapping online, and I'm the guy who kind
of picked up the phone call and just said, come on,
let's make this fight happen. A lot of other people
didn't really want the fight to happen. A lot of
top people in the world ain't want to fight to happen,
but I wanted to fight to happen, just because of
the fact that they've been constantly using my name to
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build their profile. Love, So now it's put up a
shut up.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Do you look at him as a prospect that's taking
something too soon, or do you look at him like
a contender right now?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think he contend to hear a dangerous young fighter.
At the end of the day, I was the same
age when I fought for my first word title, and
I know how hungry I was. I was very hungry.
I worked very hard to make sure that I became champions.
So I don't look at him like no prospect.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
And you know his father was doing a lot of talking,
and I hear his father really more to him. Do
y'all got any history? Do you remember him from the amateurs?
It was you a little bit older than him.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I was older than him, but I spared him. I
spared him. He came down in Houston one time. I guess, uh,
Jay and them call my phone like they got this
kid that wanted to inspire me in You know me,
I just pull up and inspire anybody. Sorry, we worked.
What was that work?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Can you talk about it. I thought it was easy work.
I thought it was easy work.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The real thing is like, after he got out the
ring with me, he kept telling me how I was
the greatest fight he ever been in the ring with,
and all yes, after he got out of the ring.
But years later, you know, on the media, these guys
want to build their name up to the media and
they want to build a profile, so now they start
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saying different things. But after he got out the ring,
he told me that I was his favorite fighter he
ever been in a ring with. He watched me so much,
and he knew he knew what happened in as far
as session.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So before this fight with Schofield got made, you were
getting ready with scheduled to fight Cordena. Yeah, and you
had training camp in Las Vegas and then you ended
up injuring your hand. How far were you in camp
before you injured your hand.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think we had a month left. I want to
say a month. I think the fight was October twelfth,
so it probably was a good month that we had left.
And I injured my hand, and you know that happens. Man,
What does that feel like like?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Te the people when you spend the money you leave camp,
you in a whole nother state few states over from
where you live, and you in a mix. You're getting
ready and you start you trying to peek, you trying
to get everything right on in the band. You have
a setback like that where it's like you gotta call
your people. Now, you gotta call it. What does that
feel like?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
It's a bad feeling just because of the fact that
how you just said, like you spend so much money
on training camp. You know, you get airbnb's, you paying
for a sparring partner, coaches vehicle to drive back and
forth front of the gym. So it's a horrible feeling
to where you spend all that money and you don't
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get it back after finding out that you injured your hand,
hurt yourself, and it's like all that money just go
down the drain. So now, honestly, you know, I just
gotta live with it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's crazy to me because every time a fighter gets injured,
you know what the fans gonna say, Oh, he's scared,
Oh he's the oh hes ducking is It's like they
don't understand, man, It's just come up the territory. And
it really the way the way we grinding as many bags,
we hitting as much song. We really should be happening
more than it really does.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
They gonna hate me when I say this, but I'm
gonna keep saying it, like I appreciate the fans that
support me, but it ain't about like what the fans
got to say no more, because it's like if I
go in there with an injured hand and I'll go
fight and I fineesh the god beat the guy one hand.
(06:15):
Oh he looked bad this night. He's not a good fighter.
He's not this. But then if I say forget it
and not go in there and tell them I'm not fighting.
I injured my hand, I gotta heal. Oh you're scared.
So it's like it's a lose lose situation regarded regardless
at the end of the day. So I honestly had
(06:37):
to throw out the window, like what the fans thinking, then,
no disrespect. I appreciate the ones that support me, though, But.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's a little bit different than when we talked last time.
When I talked to you last time, you want it
all the smoke, for sure, you want it all the smoke.
It was like, I don't care you say something. I'm
shooting back. Why to change your heart at least to
change your mind? Right now, I think you just get
old and wiser, cause it's like.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Some days, you know, I do wake up and I
go back and forth with them, and then I realized,
like it's pointless. It's a pointless game because at the
end of the day, I got the type of talents
that I'm so good, I'm never gonna be in a
winning situation with the fans. Even if I go out
there and cook this dude Scofield, they gonna find an
(07:22):
excuse to say, oh, he was a prospect or he
wasn't this saying regardless of whatever I do, it's never
gonna be a winning situation. So I just got live
with it. That's part of the game.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So he was trending to face Williams of Paya in
February if he got out of his fight with Tepan Farmer.
So tell me about that fight. You think Teppan won
that fight or do you think the petty pulled it off?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Now I thought it was a Peter pulled it off
just because of it was a lot of rounds where
so Peta was active and Tevin really wasn't doing too much.
But I thought Tevin had the bigger moments in the fight.
I thought that Tevin hit him with the bigger shot.
He had real good moments in the fight. I just
don't think it was enough to win the fight. But
(08:05):
it was a hell of a fight.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So he gets out the fight and then the worst
happens to him.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
When did your team get win it?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Like, Okay, this stuff ain't gonna it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We're not gonna fight. I heard that it was a
hand injury. But I can't be a hypocrite because at
the end of the day, like you just say in
my camp, I hurt my hand, so he hurt his
in the fight. Yeah, just hope it get better and
hopefully we could make the fight happen. But the real
problem and the issue is is like I've been calling
this guy out for so long, and I've been trying
(08:35):
to make this fight happen so many times, and it's
like over and over we can't get the fight to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So you feel like it's gonna happen one day.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'm I don't know, I'm unsure of like fights for
any of these guys, Like I don't I don't know.
You know, I get hyped up for fights happening, and
then it's like you get turned down when it don't happen.
So it's like I try not to even think about
it no more.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I have me understand that. I think I have
an idea, but like it don't seem like it's a
lot of guys like running to fight you and I don't,
you know, I don't. I try not to get caught
up and all. This guy scared, that guy scared everybody. Fighters,
But your style, right, like hitting not getting hit. People
don't realize that other fighters who can't deal with that style,
(09:22):
they fear that style. They would almost want to fight
a banger. Yes, then somebody that's gonna make them look
silly hit them when they can't hit him back. Do
you think that's why you don't get a lot of
these names, Like really, I ain't talking about just back
and forth on Twitter. I'm saying really calling you out,
like here's a contract. I think that's why you're not
getting some of these big fights.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm one hundred percent sure that's why I'm not getting
on the big fighters. I think that fighters want to
go in there and they want to know that they
have a chance at winning, and when they watch me,
it's like they don't feel like they will have a
chance at beating me because I don't give opportunities, don't
give up free shots, I don't get hit with big shots,
and I just feel like fighters is gett of that.
(10:00):
Fighters want to have an opportunity to win.
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Speaker 1 (10:51):
Tell me about your relationship with Turkey Alashiek. I know Bud,
it's his favorite fighter, but he speaks very highly of you.
Relationship with him, and how did that come about?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Honestly, we have a great relationship. I sat down with
him and I actually like got to like talk with
him and see like what type of person he is,
and he just seemed like a very good person and
we made some business happen. What I like the most
about like him, he want the fights that are like competitive,
(11:22):
like the fifty to fifty fights to this guy could
win to fight. This guy could win to fight, And
I respect that because that's how like my mentality is.
I would want to be in the ring with guys
that I feel like, you know, it's it should be
a fifty to fifty fight. I don't think nobody's fifty
fifty with me, but for the fans in the public
and stuff like that. So I like when I met Turkey,
(11:45):
and I love the way that his approach to the
game is. And he's paying for.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It too, for sure, you know, sure like people be
complaining when it's like, oh, he's messing up the game,
and I'm like, well, give him some time to figure
out how it's gonna look five years, two years on
the road. But right now he's paying fighters or overpaying fire,
whatever you want to call it, and I would rather
you do that than underpay fighters. So most of the
time promoter's trying to get a networks, trying to get
(12:10):
a tough fight for low money. So he flipped this,
I'm gonna give you a tough fight for maximum money.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Because he fighted first. That's something like I, when I
talk to him say, I don't want to put everything
out there, but as far as when I talk to him,
it seems like he's fighter first. So that's the thing
that I love the most. You know, we're the ones
that's going in the ring game, risking our lives in
the ring game, putting everything on the line. So I
think we deserve to be paid a lot of money
(12:37):
for doing this stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
So I appreciate him, and I don't think that I
call him the suits. A lot of the business people,
promoters sometimes network executive, they don't always look at us
like humans, like you know what I'm saying, like and
I like this guy, it's more like you just hey,
he's got a name, he doesn't have a name. He
can make us money. He can't like you just it's
a business. You replaceable, which which is which is cool?
I get it, you know what I'm saying, But it is.
(13:00):
It is cool having somebody that like really loved his things.
And man, I got I'm like a kid right now.
I want to see this by that, by that, bight,
here go the money fat they're.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Talking about some MS two facts. So I love it. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
So with the with the Schofield fight coming on, was
it any other names that y'all was looking at that
that was real possibilities?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Honestly, it was mainly the payda. I didn't really have
no other possibilities. It was more so like me. They
asked me who I want to fight, and I told
them give me Schofield, just because I already told Schofield
it's a pay to pull out to fight, I'm gonna
fight him. So I had to like keep my word
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too and not just be like a hypocrite and saying
people ducking me. And it's a guy right now that's
calling my name out.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So what is it about Schofield that makes him dangerous?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think what makes the most dangerous is the unexpected,
Like you don't know, you have no clue how good
years and how good he can be. So just the
unexpected to where you got to go find out in
the ring on fight night is like what makes him
the most dangerous because he hasn't really thought at this
(14:12):
level yet. So can he fight at this level? Is
he good enough to fight at this level where let's see,
he had me rolling though?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Bro? He posted that, uh that story about you make
your first million? This dude posted that before even went
the camp. I'm like, brother, that ain't it?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Like you count this money that you ain't even don't
never count money you know you ain't had, you know,
So that's just I think that's just his you know,
inexperience and excitement going into this fight.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I think his father played part two though something like that.
I feel like his father should be telling him, like,
calm down, let's handle business first, and then.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's gonna be a lot more than millions. Yeah, at
this stage in your career, bro, is it hard to
get up for a sort of unknown fighter like this.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
That's what I needed to work on the most. Like,
I think that's the biggest downfall like far as me,
because like, if you pay attention to my career, sometimes
when it's like the no name fighters and it's the
fighters that's like the fans don't really know. I'm not
(15:21):
gonna say my motivation because I trained hard every time,
but like mentally getting up and.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
And and.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Going out there to want to put on a performance
and all that kind of stuff, it kind of goes
down with I give example, how I fought Knackatilla and
everybody said boom, he suck. It was a bad fight, boring.
Then the next fight I thought jamiling it was like
it's a bigger name. I got up and I wanted
to perform. And so now I think like now for me,
(15:53):
it's like just working on it to where no matter
who you fight, it should be the same with this guy,
with that guy, I should be taking this kid Schofield.
God Like I'm like, I'm gonna be taking the Javont
Tank Davis. So but how do you do that? Though?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Because I hear some people say elite guys are always up.
How do you stay up?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
How?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
How does that mentally? How did the mental part of it?
Because you can We've been doing this boxing thing long enough,
we could do this in our sleep. I go train
just whatever my mind may not be in it. How
do you stay locked in to not slip? I think
you just gotta. I think for me, I just.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Gotta have like a fear of somebody taking my spot,
Like I gotta make it to where I feel like
it's a fear there, like I don't want this kid
to take my spot. I don't want this kid to
come and take away what I don't work for for
years and years and years. So I gotta go hard.
I gotta go out there and beat this guy up
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and let him know you're not taking this away.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
From me, because thing's changing this sport quick. If you
seen it, you ain't even gotta lose. Fact, you know
what you being at that level? If you don't look
it feel like an ill. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So I think for me, that was one of my
biggest things. Was like if I'm finding to tune up
or a real dude, it's like that, like I can't.
(17:17):
I can't let y'all. I can't let y'all. I'll be
looking thinking about press row getting it. Ain't looking at
all them dudes, them computers like they wait, they wait.
I'm thinking about all the stuff my opponents said, all
the stuff the media said that that was that helped
me stay locked in in the in the in. The
main thing too is you can't you're not taking no
food up my baby's.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Mom facts and if I lose, I'm be.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Getting that call. Yeah, we can't give you that no
more that we got to renegotiate your minimum. So now
we're gonna give you this, but you still gotta fight
a tough God. I wasn't trying to hear none. It's
so crazy how you just said.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You just said the media like that of being your
brain and stuff like it's crazy. I need to like
get back like that because that was another thing like
when I thought Jamail like it was like the media
and everything bothered me. But now it's like I think
I'm at a point to where like I don't care.
(18:07):
I don't care because it's a lame game. I feel
like I'm playing like it don't feel like the same
game as it was when I thought Jamel and I
just had a bad performance with Knackatilla. It feels like
it's just very lame, Like it's so much lame stuff
going on to where it's like I can go and
perform good and it's still always gonna be some negative,
(18:30):
so I probably do gotta get back like how you
just said.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But really, yeah, it ain't that like you got to
give them too much credit, you know, because they all
over the place and they they going on how they
feel and they don't really know what's really going on
with the fighter or really about this sport. Some do,
but many dumb. It's really just giving it, giving it
an episode.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not gonna focus
on y'all, but I hear you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
My focus is.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Here though, but I hear you, and y'all gonna y'all
gonna eat the words.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, see, I gotta get back like that. So you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Before Eddie, before Turkey, your contract with Top Rank ended
in July twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Why didn't y'all work that out?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Was it any talks of y'all resigning, like, tell me
about that split?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Naw, it was definitely talks.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I sat down with them, and honestly what happened was,
I'm like an energy person, So like if I sit
down like I'm sitting down with you, and the energy
is good, that's like that's vibe for me. But I
sat down in the meeting with them, and it was
like like a whatever energy, like okay, like you're not
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gonna make more nowhere else, so take it or leave
it or And that was the kind of energy that
I was kind of feeling at the meeting that I
had with ty Ranking. From that meeting, it was just
like made me want to go and really like let
me see, like let me see if what y'all saying
is true or amy who I say I am, Man,
(20:06):
I could go make more money somewhere else than being
with y'all and doing whatever y'all say type type of things.
So I think really like it was a great contract
that they offered me to renew, Yeah, to renew they
wanted to offer. I ain't gonna say what it was,
but it was a great, great contract. But truthfully, like
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the energy at that meeting was like I ain't feel appreciated.
I ain't feel like I was who I was at
that time. Man, I ain't like the way they was.
You know, Bob was cool. Bob was always the cool
guy to me, Like he always had a great energy.
But it's the people that's also inside the company that
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I just wasn't really feeling so it was.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't know if you were able to say, but
can you say who was who was kind of on
the table for.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You before you settled with Eddie?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Hint? Like which was it any like any people you
were talking to other promotional companies and other other companies
that you felt like, man, this may.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Be a good look. No, I really really was. Honestly,
you gotta realize in boxing right now, it's really three places.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You can go down.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, Like it ain't a whole lot of like different place.
I mean maybe a Golden Boy, But for me, I
don't think Oscar and me just like will fit right.
You know, I got a whole bunch of stuff going
on too. So if I can't like talk to the
main guy, like I know who I am as a
as a fighter, as a businessman, as a who I am,
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I know who I am, So I would want to
sit down with the god that's the guy. If I'm
not sitting down with the executive, the guys that's the guys,
then what we're doing, we ain't no business really gonna
be done in here. So truthfully, but Tyrank was they
gave me a great offer, but Eddie kind of. I like,
(21:59):
I like Eddie, and Eddie got real good energy.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So you settle with Eddie the match room. But if
I'm not mistaken, it was a short term situation.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah. What is it about Eddie though that you like?
He remind me of like the like a new age
don King. Really, Yeah, Like, I like the way he talks,
like he'll go out there and he actually doing the job.
Because the job to be a promoter. Right, Let's say
like top rank, Right, they got Bob Arron, He's the promoter.
(22:29):
What they're supposed to be doing is promoting the fighter.
I mean, get it out there, selling the fighter. Sometimes
Bob is like too real for his own good to
where he can't really do his job the right way.
So he gonna go out there and say things that's like,
you're not helping your fighter. You're hurting your fighter when
you say these things. So with Eddie, I kind of
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like the way that he talk. I like the way
he go out there and he sells the product. And
I think that's like the job of a promote.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So what he told the media, and I'm talking about
Eddie Hearn was he said cordeena paya and Tank. I
know you said you don't know if any of them
guys don't getting the ring, But is that a real
possibility for him to deliver on what he said he
could deliver on. I know some of that was out
of his hands with the injuries.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, I think it kind of changed the tune. I
don't think Cordina was in the plans. I think it's
more so I think it's a paida and then Tank.
Far as what I heard, I think that they you know,
they're gonna do everything that they can to make the
fight happen. So it's not on the promoters all the time.
It's the fighters that got to say yes or no,
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and we'll see, we'll see. I don't want to get
my hopes up in then be down about it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And you really don't have no problem fighting anybody in
your weight class or maybe even the way somebody below
or above your weight class if it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm willing to fight any and everybody, Like like I said,
as long as the money makes it. We're getting ring
and squabble. I like all the big fights. I want
to fight everybody and just show people that I am
better than all these guys.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So you just came back from London from the Ring
Magazine award show. A lot of great fighters there, some older,
some present fighters. Tell me what that was like being
out there with all them different fighters and some of
your ops.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Too, honestly, like it was kind of cool, but it
was like it was cool to just be in a
room with like some of the great fighters. But like
how you say, like the ops and all of that,
I was in my own world, Like I really wasn't
like next to them guys, like I've seen them, but
it's like, go about your business. I don't really got
(24:43):
nothing to say to you. But y'all don't never like nah,
I mean, it's nothing to say.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
They get spicy on social and then I'm wondering if
we all pass each other, dude.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
And that's the thing, I'll be ready and that like
we in England, right, we in England and we had
a Ring magazine, a big so like I'm so ready
already to where it's like, I know what's best is
to just keep it moving, don't even because me I
might just go to a different level and then we
(25:13):
might be getting locked up and it be all types
of stuff that it shouldn't be. So I mean, it
was cool to see them, but I think all of
them guys is kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
But what do the energy be like when you pet
like y'all in the same room. Is it like y'all
looking at each other is and everybody looking straight ahead?
Like what type of time y'all?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I don't tuck my tails, I'm saying. Everybody I be
looking at like peeping on the only person who who
seem to have energy that I would say, But it
was like like femaleless energy for me, uh TiO. Everybody
else was like looking away, but t O was the
only one. We're kind of like what you mean by that.
(25:52):
He's like he wants the center of attention, like he
got to be the guy like to like everybody needs
to pay attention to me. Like that's like a girl, like, bro,
we all in here with great fighters. We all is
like top level fighters in here. It should just be
respect and we men too. So it's like I don't need, like,
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you know, I need everybody pay attention to me. I
go sit down somewhere, chill out, relax, you know. But
I think with him, he was kind of like little
girl something. Yeah. Yeah, it was Ryan like Ryan I
really ain't even get to see Ryan. I've seen Ryan,
but from a distance. I really ain't get to like
run into him. But I can't even tell you I
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seen him from a distance. So you also were supposed
to announce your fight with Schofield. He didn't show up, right,
He was like, man, he gonna pull out the fight.
He like, somebody stole my passport to book the page
of my passport.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
They set me up. What did you make about him
not showing up to the press conference.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I'm actually scared, Like I'm actually scared that they not
gonna show up to the fight. And I'm gonna go
put in all of this, Yes, all of this work
I'm putting in right now. I just feel like they
looking for excuse, like they looking for a way out,
Like why why are you running from a million dollars?
I mean I can't. He did the picture. I'm making
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my first million dollars?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Why running from that?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
But why would you go make up a lie and
say that somebody I said, somebody to steal your passport?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh, yes, I thought he said something. Just a random
person did it?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Nah? He said you sent somebody to steal the page
to take it? He said, basically, somebody broke into his
house and they ripped the page out of his past square.
I'm not making this up so now, like it got
me worried because it's like, are you going to show
up on Ta Sarti or are you gonna say somebody
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stole your passport or you're gonna make up some type
of excuse to why you're not coming to the fight.
But I mean people telling me he's still out here talking,
so hopefully he should.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I got to do better research because I ain't know
that you. I didn't know he accused you sending somebody
to him.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, dang, yeah, he said it was me. I seen
somebody to do it. I don't even know where he's at.
I have no clue, right I can't tell you right
now where he's at. Why would you do that? Though?
I don't know and I ain't catcher, I have no
clue that you do.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You know, like in the past where it's multiple pages, though,
so somebody rip a page out, it's like it's other
pages you can stand to get.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
They said it was the signature page, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
For his signature. Yeah, wow, wow, man, I'm gonna switch
gears for a second.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Bron, how long you been knowing Keyshine? I knew keyshawing
shid he was thirteen.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I seen something on I g man, I say,
y'all playing with the fans and stuff, doing the place off.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Bro, just just just tracking me for a second.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So you the WBC light Way Champ.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, I got that right, right? Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He uh he getting ready to fight Baranchick for the WBO,
right yep. And I know y'all say, y'all ain't gonna
ever fight. I can't see it happening now, But like
you mean to tell me if Turkey Alashick, say, listen,
that's the fight I want here, he push a truckload
(29:25):
of money your way and a truckload of money his
way in.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Two years street, what's the truck lot?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Brother to money? You ain't never seen.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
The far Look, this is how I look at it, right,
y'all ain't gonna fight. That's my brother, that's my brothers
fight for free, I feel you and I would fight
him for free, like if it's some me and whom
you know. But I like want some real talk, like
I can't really just picture like my family and his
family at a fight night, and like they're going against
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each other, like Keon is your kid? Like they so close,
it's like know they just don't. It ain't the same
for me, Like I don't know, man, we could be close.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Listen, I ain't talking about just to fight to fight
all because y'all say, I'm saying life changing money and
I know it ain't all about the money. But this
with you and they, y'all got all the belts and
it just started making a whole lot of sense two
years from now, Like, Bro, it really ain't nobody for me.
I could fight this dude, but Waite less money, he
could fight that dude. Y'all ain't gonna put that business
(30:28):
hat on and get in a ruman site. Bro, I
love you, I support you, but we can't past this.
A we ain't never gotta fight again with this with
this number. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know. It's it's kind of hard because this
is a situational type of thing. But for me, how
I'm feeling right now, like I wouldn't fight you, Shan,
that's my brother man Turkey. I wouldn't even fight. I
wouldn't fight my blood brother at the right time.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I ain't do what you do.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I wouldn't fight my blood brother. Be surprised that that happened.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Two years from now, Bro, year and a half from now.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I mean, it's an awful.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Man. Y'all got me thinking while y'all playing with.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
People then, because you know y'all, y'all, y'all.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Playing with it, while y'all playing with it with the
I G and the social.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Fans, that's what they want. That's all they keep talking about. Something.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Y'all gonna make it, make it giving them.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
We're giving them a vision, so that that's the fighting stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But tell me, like, tell the fans, tell me, like
what type of dude is of course Stevens are Outside
of boxing.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm a family man, Like I'm the type of person
I just sit at home and chill my daughter all
day and be on that game. I play the game
for sure. I'm a competitor too, like I gotta do
something that like keep my competitive mindset going. So I
like to play ping pong basketball.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Give me that pain poon along when I'm in town.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Feel me. Yeah, I can't wait to see you again.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You give me in any game, no call of duty
or something, the pain. Leave that alone.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I'm about to go give me one of them patterns
that I'm like that I was gonna play j Jason
year leader that paddle let the have. But nah, I'm
a family man, Like I really just be kicking in
my daughter and my family all day. That's just who
I am.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What type of businessman's of course, Stevens and you negotiate
harder you be giving in.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Nah, I definitely negotiate Yard. I'm one of them guys.
I'm trying to get as much money as possible for
myself whoever I'm working with, So I'm definitely one of them.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Tell me about your deal with Reebok Man, that's big.
It ain't a lot of fighters that got a brand
deal like that. Tell me how that came about?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
This guy, Jason. He was in contact with my cousin, Terray,
and they was kind of talking and he told him
that Rebok want to sign me, and he didn't put
me on the phone with Jason and Jason had like
this whole team together. And at first I thought it
was cap because it's like my cousin he telling me it,
but he wasn't really saying like everything that they was
(33:00):
gonna tell me. So when I got on the phone,
and it was like five six people on the phone
call and they all talking, and honestly, I knew it
was really Honestly, I appreciate Rebok because they really been
showing me love, like they've really been like looking out
for me. And I got to say, I appreciate Shaq
(33:21):
because he told me he was the one who really
called and made that call for me. So I appreciate Shack,
I appreciate Reeboking, I appreciate everything they do. I was
gonna ask you about that.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I know, you know sometime with the big names, like
they busy and stuff, but like you had any interaction
with Shaq or Ai crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I've been having interactions with Shaq for like years. You know,
Shaq from Newark. We're from the same city, so you
know what neighborhood he from. I can't tell you what
neighborhood from Newark he from nort But I've been talking
with Shaq probably since I've been like since like twenty eighteen.
I want to say. It was one day he hit
me up and asked me for my number. Then he
(33:59):
just called me and he just was giving me some
game and stuff. So shock definitely he that dude for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And that's dope.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Tell me about your relationship with Jay Prince and Josh Dubin.
You know, they've been been with you from the beginning.
Like what do they bring to your life and to
to the business side.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Another another two people that I appreciate so much. I think, Uh,
j Prince, him and Josh is two different people. Yeah
for sure, Yeah, they too people, but they definitely far
as business wise, they are very strong. They strong minded
in they not taking no for answer. Jay, he been
(34:40):
with me hands on in Houston. Me and him live
in the same city, so Jay Ben kind of make
sure I were straight since I don't got to Houston.
So I appreciate him for that. Josh, I appreciate him
just because he was here a shark when they come
to business, like he wanted them dudes that he gonna
step on the gas and he gonna get everything that
(35:00):
we want out of every deal that we make.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
So yeah, he loved hard Man, and it's like he
protects hard too. He family, and that's the type of
person you want on the front line. And nobody play
with your name, your money, contract, none of that fact.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You know. Yeah, that's that's that's my brother.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I love him, man, and the same thing with Jay.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I appreciate you too, though I wouldn't tell you that
because you the person that really introduced me to Josh
and Jay and put this whole structure really around me.
So I appreciate you for that too, for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Man. That's what I'm here for. What's your thoughts on
Terrence Crawford Terrence Bud Crawford's last fight.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I thought that I thought he fought good, real good.
I thought that that Madamov is not like an easy
fighter to fight, so, like you know, you're gonna get criticism,
but I thought he looked good. I thought he picked
good shots. Maybe sometimes he could have stepped on the gas,
but like that's what he would say. But for me personally,
I yeah, I thought he did enough.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And he closed the way he was supposed when he
needed them. Last two rounds he stepped up.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, but he'll tell you that he feels like he
could have did more, but that's Bud. So I thought
that was a good fight for him.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So we don't know for show, but it looked like
his rumor September Terrence Crawford Canelo Alvarez, it looked like
Canelo's gonna take his fight in May. Looks like Budd
is gonna by pass the mayfight and just focus on September.
That's what's being rumored. What are your thoughts on Terrence Crawford,
Canelo Alvarez, Terrence going up another two way classes, just
(36:27):
got the fifty fold. He's skipping six. He going straight
to sixty. He ain't talking about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I feel like once he beat Canelo, that will be
like one of the greatest resumes in boxing ever, just
because of the fact that he's going up two divisions
just to fight this guy and this guy's bigger than him. Man,
not only did you just crush Aero Spence, but you
(36:54):
go out there and just and the way that he
beats Canelo too. If he go out there and just
dominate and make it an easy fight, honestly, I think
that that's gonna be like one of the best resumes
I ever seen. But far as the fight, I feel
like Bud could be him easy.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
How don't give me everything?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Just hot for me. It's a blueprint already. It's literally
blueprints to see. Floyd was a lot smaller than Cannelo
when he for them. You keep Conelo on the outside.
I ain't gonna even say too much, but you can
keep it on the outside, then make it an easy night.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
So how would you like to see Bud go out
right now? Because getting closer that time, I think.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
That's the fight. I think that fight and then just
call it. I'm done. What else is there to prove
after being Canelo? There's nothing else to prove. It can't
go up no more. I mean unless you want to
go fight USI you seventy five.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
If you fight us, then man for So at Bud's
last fight, you got into a Woloma chank on. What's
set that off? And then why haven't we gotten that fight?
To two part question?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yo, it's so weird. Like I'm glad you asked this
question too when I seen him, because I knew already
that when I seen I seen him on TV, I'm like, oh,
lem a chankle here, nah, Like I really gotta go
ask him why we not fighting? What is like the
in between of the issue to like why we not fighting?
(38:31):
So I leave out of bud locker room, I go
out there to the to the fights. I go to.
I see him sitting down. I go up to him
as he's sitting down, like yo, why we not fighting?
While we not fighting? And it's like he just lost
his cool or something like I never seen. It was
(38:52):
kind of weird for me because I ain't never seen
living Tenko like lose is cool. Like he got up, Oh,
we can fight right now? We could fight, That's what
it was so weird. But mind you, at first it
was no cameras around at first, So when he's saying it,
they like we could fight right now, I'm like, come on,
like come on, like nobody really paying attention to us
(39:12):
at the moment. Then he got up, came around security
I guess came in between. But it was like a
weird situation for me just because like he's willing to
like basically want to scrap right there, but you don't
want to fight me, Like you don't want to get
in a ring and box for me and make millions
and millions of dollars. I've been calling your name for
(39:34):
how long now? Like what is like what is what
are you doing? And it was funny, like it was
mad funny to me because he's like pump faked, Like
he's pump faked, like I know somebody pumping. He's pump faked.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
So it happened after that with no discussion with top rank.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Now of that nothing I ain't. I mean, actually I
actually for this fight. I actually reached out and said
camp I fight Chank win. They said he didn't want
to fight, That's what they said. Yes, I reached out
and they said they were going to hit up on
Egos because you know he worked with Egosts and they
hit him up and nope, what I don't know what
(40:12):
else to do.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's the one I want to see, Bro, That's the
fight I want too. Yeah, there's a lot of fights
I want to see you in, Bro, but.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I think limit Chenko is the fight where it's like
the fans and the public will be more so attracted
to it. And I think it'll be easier fight than
people even expect. Like I think I'm a chank go
easy word for me, truthfully, what's show?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What's the message that you're trying to see in February
twenty second, Like with what you're trying to leave Saudi
Arabia with, what's the message you want to leave in
people's mind.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I'm just the best boxing, That's it. I want people
to know that I'm the best boxer. None of these
dudes could beat me. And are they really gonna feel
that demologist kid? Probably not, but I'm gonna try to
aim for it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
But Brother, as always, Man, I appreciate you opening up camp.
I know these interviews are hard. I know you're trying
to get your rest. You probably got another training session
or something, Bro, So I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Bro, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Now, You're welcome anytime on the show. My boy. That's it.
That's it, Bro. Thank y'all, man for tuning in another
dope episode. My little brother World Champion looking to retain
this title February twenty second against Floyd Schofield. Thank y'all
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