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August 14, 2025 42 mins

In this week's session, Rory is joined by Erica Chenoweth, a professor in the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University and one the country's leading experts on social movements and nonviolent resistance. Erica provides opening remarks about what we know about when social movements and nonviolent resistance are effective. They then provide an assessment of the state of the pro-democracy movement in the United States, highlighting the importance of building momentum and the role of small protests. The conversation closes with a discussion of why ideas matter for a social movement, and how the current movement needs to be about more than just "anti-Trump."

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