July 3, 2025 • 24 mins
In just a few months, the fragile coalition that secured Trump’s victory has crumbled into dust. It started with Trump and Elon Musk’s recent feud, it escalated after Trump’s unprovoked attack on Iran, and now, as the Senate passes Trump’s pork-filled mega-bill, it’s become an all-out crisis, with Elon Musk threatening to upend our entire electoral system by creating a new political party. It’s Trump and the new establishment versus America First principles. How did we get here, and why? This is not the episode to miss. The fate of the country is in the balance. The MAGA civil war has officially begun.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Today on The Conservative Rebel, just a few
months into his presidency, thefragile coalition that secured
Trump's victory in November hascrumbled into dust.
The Great MAGA Civil War hasofficially begun.
It started with Trump and ElonMusk's recent feud.
It escalated after Trump'sunprovoked attack on Iran.
(00:23):
And now, as the Senate passesTrump's pork-filled mega-bill,
it's become an all-out crisis,with Elon Thank you for
watching.
(01:03):
It feels like it was justyesterday that we were locked in
the battle for our nation'ssurvival, known as the 2024
election.
The deep state was waging anall-out war on Donald Trump.
The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago,desperately searching for
(01:23):
anything they could possiblyfind to incriminate Trump.
Soros-backed DAs were waginglawfare against him that put the
most corrupt Third World regimesto shame.
They dragged him before kangaroocourts.
They convicted him of made-upcharges.
They tried to throw him inprison.
(01:45):
It seems like just yesterdaythat they shot him at his
Butler, Pennsylvania rally,coming within an inch of
murdering him.
And then when that failed,another assassin tried to kill
him again.
And it seems like just yesterdaythat the story ended when he
crushed Kamala Harris in theelection and was victoriously
(02:09):
sworn in as the 47th president.
We all remember what the firstweeks of the Trump
administration felt like.
The country was relativelyunited.
Change was in the air.
The world was full of hope.
The future was bright.
Anything seemed possible.
(02:31):
The people had reclaimed theircountry from the deep state.
The new golden age of Americawas upon us.
We would have no new wars.
The slaughter in Ukraine wouldend.
There would be a ceasefire inGaza.
We would have mass deportations.
(02:51):
Tens of millions of illegalaliens would be quickly removed
from the country.
We would have drastic cuts togovernment waste, fraud, and
abuse.
Doge would take a chainsaw tothe bureaucracy.
Wasteful agencies would beabolished.
We could be sure of all thisbecause that's what we had been
(03:14):
promised.
I remember what it was like.
I was just as naive andoptimistic as the next guy about
it all.
I was wrong.
The first week or two weregreat.
We were racking up victory aftervictory.
But in just a few months, all ofthat has changed.
(03:36):
The mood of the country hasfundamentally changed.
Disappointment afterdisappointment, broken promise
after broken promise, has tornthe America First movement in
two.
The Iran situation was obviouslya major contributing factor.
(03:57):
It cleanly split Trump's basebetween pro-war neocons like
Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, andtheir boomer supporters, and
anti-war conservatives likeTucker Carlson, Thomas Massey,
Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, andtheir younger supporters.
We talked about that lastepisode.
(04:17):
And you can count on this.
We will never forget that.
We will never forget that Trumpgambled with American blood and
treasure for the benefit of aforeign country.
But the latest failure that'sdriving a wedge into the heart
of the MAGA movement is, ofcourse, Trump's so-called Big
(04:41):
Beautiful Bill, which justpassed the Senate after J.D.
Vance issued the tie-breakingvote in favor of it.
After the mega-bill passed theSenate, Trump spokesman Stephen
Miller claimed, President Trumpis delivering on every single
promise he campaigned on.
(05:03):
But not only does the bigbeautiful bill not deliver on
Trump's campaign promises, itshatters them into oblivion.
Trump promised an end togovernment waste, fraud, and
abuse.
This monstrosity increases thedeficit and explodes the debt by
an estimated$20 trillion in just10 years.
(05:28):
We talked about that in detail acouple episodes back.
Trump promised an end to genderideology.
The final version of the BigBeautiful Bill still funds the
mutilation of children with yourtax dollars, thanks to the
losers in the Senate whomodified the bill to make sure
(05:51):
you will still be forced to payto inflict irreversible harm on
innocent children.
Trump promised to reverseBiden's policy of giving illegal
aliens welfare.
The final version of the bill,again, thanks to the wonderful
people in the U.S.
Senate, does not change any ofthat.
(06:15):
You'll still be forced to payfor handouts to the very
criminal aliens we were promisedwould be deported.
You see, we have to make them ascomfortable as possible while
they illegally trespass on oursoil and violate our
sovereignty.
And let's not forget PlannedParenthood.
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Originally, the Big BeautifulBill was going to defund Planned
Parenthood for 10 years.
Now it's been scaled back toonly one year.
That's right, in just one year,you and I will once again be
forced to give our hard-earnedmoney to murderers who butcher
unborn children for profit.
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Ask yourself, is this what youvoted for?
Is this what Trump promised you?
Did you vote for taxpayer-fundedchild abuse?
Did you vote for welfare forcriminal aliens?
Did you vote for debt slavery?
If Trump is just fulfillingcampaign promises, as Stephen
(07:22):
Miller claims, we're going tohave to see the footage of Trump
promising to explode thenational debt by$20 trillion
while funding child mutilationsand abortions.
I could just have a poor memory,but I don't remember Trump
telling voters he'd do any ofthat.
(07:43):
In fact, he would have lost theelection to Kamala Harris if he
had promised any of thosethings.
Almost everything good about theBig Beautiful Bill has been
ripped out of it, but all of itsmost horrible and catastrophic
features, like risking thecollapse of our monetary system
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and the bankruptcy of ourcountry, have been kept in it.
One of the few good things thatsurvived the Senate is funding
for border control, which is whythe talking point that went out
this entire time has been thatwe're required to support this
bill because if we don't, wecan't have a secure border.
(08:29):
We must sell ourselves and ourchildren into debt slavery
because if we don't, illegalaliens will destroy our country.
I reject that narrative, and youshould too.
Actually, we can deport illegalaliens and cut spending too.
It's not an either-or decision.
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We can, in fact, do both.
We have, in fact, done bothbefore.
Congress could have easily helda totally separate vote on
border control funding and everyRepublican would have supported
it in a heartbeat.
Every last one of them.
But instead, the people who seemto be hell-bent on bankrupting
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our country decided to lump thattogether with everything else,
because they knew that mighthave been the only way they
could get this thing passed, isif they convinced people they
had to do it, or the bordercould not be secured and we
could not have massdeportations.
(09:37):
We were told we had to let ourcountry die through bankruptcy
so that it would not die fromthe illegal alien invasion we've
been dealing with.
They said we had to choose twodeadly poisons to drink.
(09:58):
When in reality, we could havejust said, no, I don't think
I'll drink either one of thosepoisons.
I think we'll deport illegalaliens and not bankrupt our
country.
How about that?
You people want to bankrupt ourcountry?
You people want to let it diebecause of illegal aliens?
How about we compromise and wedon't let it die because of debt
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while also not letting it diebecause of illegal aliens?
How about instead of lumpingtogether one catastrophe with
one victory, we just take twovictories?
We could always do that.
If you've listened to so far ofthis podcast, I have a feeling
you're interested in it.
And if that's true, pleaseconsider leaving a review
(10:43):
wherever you're listening tothis podcast.
It would help me out a lot.
Now let's get back to theepisode.
And it's for these reasons thatElon Musk very sensibly opposes
this big beautiful bill.
That's why it was obviously thecause of the Trump-Elon feud
(11:04):
that happened just a few weeksago, when Mike Johnson, our
embarrassment of a HouseSpeaker, was working to get the
bill approved in the House.
It famously climaxed with ElonMusk accusing Donald Trump of
being in the Epstein files.
Maybe you remember that.
Well, Trump and Elon are at itagain.
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Just as the Big Beautiful Billwas on track to pass the Senate,
Elon Musk took to X.
Elon Musk dropped a nuclearbomb.
For some context, this was rightas the Senate was going into its
final vote to approve the BigBeautiful Bill.
(11:47):
Elon Musk wrote this,"...everymember of Congress who
campaigned on reducinggovernment spending and then
immediately voted for thebiggest debt increase in history
should hang their head inshame." and they will lose their
primary next year if it is thelast thing I do on this earth.
(12:12):
That post got 36.4 millionviews, and it sent shockwaves
throughout the country.
But he didn't stop there.
He was in a rage.
He was...
issuing statements like this allday.
He followed up by saying, ifthis insane spending bill
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passes, he said in a The AmericaParty will be formed the next
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day.
Our country needs an alternativeto the Democrat-Republican
Uniparty so that the peopleactually have a voice.
Now, I agree with Elon Musk1000% that the two-party system
is stupid and corrupt, and thatthe Republicans and Democrats
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have formed a uniparty dedicatedto never-ending war,
never-ending spending,never-ending debt, and big
government.
I also agree with him that athird party that's opposed to
all of those things would be awonderful blessing for this
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country if it could work.
That's the critical thing,though.
That's the big if.
If it could work.
And I'm not 100% sure that itcould work.
Because unless you could get thevast majority of Republicans to
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join this party, along with asignificant number of
independents, you wouldcatastrophically split the
non-Marxist coalition in two andpotentially hand the Democrats
back control of the country.
That is a very real risk byforming a political party like
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this.
But on the other hand, ofcourse, we're currently living
in this cycle where theDemocrats completely wreck the
country when they're in power,and then the Republicans barely
do anything to fix it.
They barely make a dent, andthen the Democrats get back in
power, and they make everythingworse again.
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In some cases, even theRepublicans are actively trying
to destroy the country.
Like for the George W.
Bush administration, whereeverything got worse even though
the Republicans controlledeverything.
So if that cycle continues, thenobviously our country is going
to die, and electing Republicansis just delaying that
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catastrophic collapse andputting off that impending doom.
Whereas with a third party thatactually opposed to these
things, it would be a big risk,but potentially a great reward.
It would have the potential tosave the country.
So I don't know what I thinkabout this proposal to establish
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a third party.
If it ever did happen, we'd haveto see what happened.
But Elon Musk's frustration is100% understandable with the
Republican Party.
You cannot deny that.
You just can't.
You can't deny that theRepublican Party is betraying
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voters and stabbing them in theback and has been doing so for
decades.
That's just a fact.
The idea of Elon Musk's, that'sunquestionably a great thing
though, no doubt about it, itwould be fantastic, is his idea
to primary all of thesebackstabbing traitors who
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promise to cut spending and tocut waste, fraud, and abuse and
then get to D.C.
and vote to do the opposite.
These absolute lying, cheatinglosers who for decades have had
no accountability The threat ofa primary against them is a
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great thing.
These people need to be purgedfrom the Republican Party.
They need to be purged frompower.
And Elon Musk has the money todo this.
And the greatest thing aboutthis is Elon Musk and Donald
Trump are going to be fighting aproxy war in Thomas Massey's
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congressional district.
Thomas Massey, we've talkedabout him a lot on the show.
He's one of the only ones whocame out against this big
beautiful bankruptcy bill, andto punish him, to have revenge
on him for daring to speak outagainst this insane mega bill,
Trump created a super PAC calledKentucky MAGA that is currently
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running ads inside hiscongressional district, spewing
all sorts of lies about him, totry to unseat him, to try to
purge from power the problemchild who won't get in line and
who actually thinks for himselfand has his own principles.
Elon Musk has openly said thathe will be funding Thomas
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Massey's primary against DonaldTrump's establishment super PAC.
So these two men who were onceallies are going to be fighting
it out and Elon Musk has a lotmore money than Donald Trump
does.
A lot more money.
But let's not get too ahead ofourselves, because we're not
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allowed to think like this.
These are forbidden thoughts.
We're not supposed to explorepossibilities like this.
We're not allowed to take ElonMusk's side on this.
We need to trust the plan.
Trump's bankruptcy bill is abrilliant 40 chess move, and
just like the game of Russianroulette he played with American
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lives by bombing Iran, you'renot allowed to ask questions
about it or you're a traitor toMAGA.
Trump supported dropping bombs,Trump supported this bill, so
you're betraying the AmericaFirst movement, we're supposed
to believe, and betraying Trumphimself if you have a different
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But the America First movementdoesn't belong to the President
of the United States.
It doesn't belong to anypolitician.
This movement belongs to you andI.
It belongs to the Americanpeople.
And the American people are fedup with broken promises.
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We gave you your chance.
We would like our movement back.
We should not be buying thisnarrative that we can never
criticize Trump for anythingever and that he's always right
about absolutely everything.
We need to stop pretending thatwhen we know in our hearts, we
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know deep down that that iswrong.
This is what they always saywhenever Trump makes a big
mistake.
A week ago, you weren't allowedto criticize Trump's high-risk,
low-reward decision to bombIran, which never attacked us or
posed a threat to us, eventhough doing so clearly violated
(20:10):
Trump's promise to put ourcountry first and stay out of
foreign wars.
It didn't turn out ascatastrophically as it could
have, but it was still acompletely unnecessary risk that
we clearly took for the sake ofIsrael instead of the sake of
our own country.
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This week, the thing we're notallowed to criticize, is the big
beautiful bill.
You're not allowed to disagreewith it, even though you know
full well that it clearlyviolates Trump's promise to cut
government waste and reducespending.
And you're also not allowed toquestion why Trump is deporting
illegals at a crawling ratethat's close to the monthly
(20:53):
averages of the Barack Obamaadministration, even though
Trump promised to mass deportcriminal aliens by the millions.
We can't question any of it, orwe're Trump.
We can't notice that all thesepromises are being broken or
we're betraying Trump.
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But the people who tell you thatare lying to you.
We're not the ones who broke anypromises.
We're not the ones betrayinganyone's trust.
And we're not the ones who havedone a complete 180 on very
important issues.
We don't owe any politicianunquestionable loyalty and
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trust.
In fact, it is our duty asAmericans, as a free people, to
have a healthy dose of cynicismabout the people who run the
government.
We don't owe anyone anything,but I'll tell you who does owe
us something.
His name is Trump.
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He promised to take aflamethrower to government
waste.
He promised no new wars.
He promised ruthless massdeportations.
So he owes us, the Americanpeople, all of those things.
And don't let anyone tell youyou're a traitor for demanding
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what you're owed.
And definitely don't let anyonecall you a rhino or a
never-trumper for that, becauseno one is more pleased with how
Trump has chosen to conduct hisadministration lately than the
old never-trumpers and rhinosand neocons, and no one is more
(22:43):
disappointed in him than some ofhis most old and fervent
supporters.
We need to face the facts.
Trump ran against theestablishment, but he has become
the establishment.
Trump ran on no new wars, thenimmediately risked starting a
(23:04):
new war.
Trump ran on America first, hegave us Israel first, at least
with regard to the Iran strikes.
This big beautiful bill is justthe latest in a long, long
string of disappointments.
And You and I need to stoptwisting ourselves into pretzel
shapes, desperately trying torationalize Trump's actions, and
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make excuses for his failures.
How many failures will it take?
How many broken promises will wetolerate before we finally wake
up to this sad truth?
This isn't 40 chess, this isbetrayal.
And the sooner we accept that,the sooner the America First
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If you liked it, please leave areview wherever you're listening
to this podcast.
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(24:13):
people.
Thanks again.
Today on The Conservative Rebel, just a few
months into his presidency, thefragile coalition that secured
Trump's victory in November hascrumbled into dust.
The Great MAGA Civil War hasofficially begun.
It started with Trump and ElonMusk's recent feud.
It escalated after Trump'sunprovoked attack on Iran.
(00:23):
And now, as the Senate passesTrump's pork-filled mega-bill,
it's become an all-out crisis,with Elon Thank you for
watching.
(01:03):
It feels like it was justyesterday that we were locked in
the battle for our nation'ssurvival, known as the 2024
election.
The deep state was waging anall-out war on Donald Trump.
The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago,desperately searching for
(01:23):
anything they could possiblyfind to incriminate Trump.
Soros-backed DAs were waginglawfare against him that put the
most corrupt Third World regimesto shame.
They dragged him before kangaroocourts.
They convicted him of made-upcharges.
They tried to throw him inprison.
(01:45):
It seems like just yesterdaythat they shot him at his
Butler, Pennsylvania rally,coming within an inch of
murdering him.
And then when that failed,another assassin tried to kill
him again.
And it seems like just yesterdaythat the story ended when he
crushed Kamala Harris in theelection and was victoriously
(02:09):
sworn in as the 47th president.
We all remember what the firstweeks of the Trump
administration felt like.
The country was relativelyunited.
Change was in the air.
The world was full of hope.
The future was bright.
Anything seemed possible.
(02:31):
The people had reclaimed theircountry from the deep state.
The new golden age of Americawas upon us.
We would have no new wars.
The slaughter in Ukraine wouldend.
There would be a ceasefire inGaza.
We would have mass deportations.
(02:51):
Tens of millions of illegalaliens would be quickly removed
from the country.
We would have drastic cuts togovernment waste, fraud, and
abuse.
Doge would take a chainsaw tothe bureaucracy.
Wasteful agencies would beabolished.
We could be sure of all thisbecause that's what we had been
(03:14):
promised.
I remember what it was like.
I was just as naive andoptimistic as the next guy about
it all.
I was wrong.
The first week or two weregreat.
We were racking up victory aftervictory.
But in just a few months, all ofthat has changed.
(03:36):
The mood of the country hasfundamentally changed.
Disappointment afterdisappointment, broken promise
after broken promise, has tornthe America First movement in
two.
The Iran situation was obviouslya major contributing factor.
(03:57):
It cleanly split Trump's basebetween pro-war neocons like
Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, andtheir boomer supporters, and
anti-war conservatives likeTucker Carlson, Thomas Massey,
Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, andtheir younger supporters.
We talked about that lastepisode.
(04:17):
And you can count on this.
We will never forget that.
We will never forget that Trumpgambled with American blood and
treasure for the benefit of aforeign country.
But the latest failure that'sdriving a wedge into the heart
of the MAGA movement is, ofcourse, Trump's so-called Big
(04:41):
Beautiful Bill, which justpassed the Senate after J.D.
Vance issued the tie-breakingvote in favor of it.
After the mega-bill passed theSenate, Trump spokesman Stephen
Miller claimed, President Trumpis delivering on every single
promise he campaigned on.
(05:03):
But not only does the bigbeautiful bill not deliver on
Trump's campaign promises, itshatters them into oblivion.
Trump promised an end togovernment waste, fraud, and
abuse.
This monstrosity increases thedeficit and explodes the debt by
an estimated$20 trillion in just10 years.
(05:28):
We talked about that in detail acouple episodes back.
Trump promised an end to genderideology.
The final version of the BigBeautiful Bill still funds the
mutilation of children with yourtax dollars, thanks to the
losers in the Senate whomodified the bill to make sure
(05:51):
you will still be forced to payto inflict irreversible harm on
innocent children.
Trump promised to reverseBiden's policy of giving illegal
aliens welfare.
The final version of the bill,again, thanks to the wonderful
people in the U.S.
Senate, does not change any ofthat.
(06:15):
You'll still be forced to payfor handouts to the very
criminal aliens we were promisedwould be deported.
You see, we have to make them ascomfortable as possible while
they illegally trespass on oursoil and violate our
sovereignty.
And let's not forget PlannedParenthood.
(06:36):
Originally, the Big BeautifulBill was going to defund Planned
Parenthood for 10 years.
Now it's been scaled back toonly one year.
That's right, in just one year,you and I will once again be
forced to give our hard-earnedmoney to murderers who butcher
unborn children for profit.
(06:58):
Ask yourself, is this what youvoted for?
Is this what Trump promised you?
Did you vote for taxpayer-fundedchild abuse?
Did you vote for welfare forcriminal aliens?
Did you vote for debt slavery?
If Trump is just fulfillingcampaign promises, as Stephen
(07:22):
Miller claims, we're going tohave to see the footage of Trump
promising to explode thenational debt by$20 trillion
while funding child mutilationsand abortions.
I could just have a poor memory,but I don't remember Trump
telling voters he'd do any ofthat.
(07:43):
In fact, he would have lost theelection to Kamala Harris if he
had promised any of thosethings.
Almost everything good about theBig Beautiful Bill has been
ripped out of it, but all of itsmost horrible and catastrophic
features, like risking thecollapse of our monetary system
(08:08):
and the bankruptcy of ourcountry, have been kept in it.
One of the few good things thatsurvived the Senate is funding
for border control, which is whythe talking point that went out
this entire time has been thatwe're required to support this
bill because if we don't, wecan't have a secure border.
(08:29):
We must sell ourselves and ourchildren into debt slavery
because if we don't, illegalaliens will destroy our country.
I reject that narrative, and youshould too.
Actually, we can deport illegalaliens and cut spending too.
It's not an either-or decision.
(08:51):
We can, in fact, do both.
We have, in fact, done bothbefore.
Congress could have easily helda totally separate vote on
border control funding and everyRepublican would have supported
it in a heartbeat.
Every last one of them.
But instead, the people who seemto be hell-bent on bankrupting
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our country decided to lump thattogether with everything else,
because they knew that mighthave been the only way they
could get this thing passed, isif they convinced people they
had to do it, or the bordercould not be secured and we
could not have massdeportations.
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We were told we had to let ourcountry die through bankruptcy
so that it would not die fromthe illegal alien invasion we've
been dealing with.
They said we had to choose twodeadly poisons to drink.
(09:58):
When in reality, we could havejust said, no, I don't think
I'll drink either one of thosepoisons.
I think we'll deport illegalaliens and not bankrupt our
country.
How about that?
You people want to bankrupt ourcountry?
You people want to let it diebecause of illegal aliens?
How about we compromise and wedon't let it die because of debt
(10:20):
while also not letting it diebecause of illegal aliens?
How about instead of lumpingtogether one catastrophe with
one victory, we just take twovictories?
We could always do that.
If you've listened to so far ofthis podcast, I have a feeling
you're interested in it.
And if that's true, pleaseconsider leaving a review
(10:43):
wherever you're listening tothis podcast.
It would help me out a lot.
Now let's get back to theepisode.
And it's for these reasons thatElon Musk very sensibly opposes
this big beautiful bill.
That's why it was obviously thecause of the Trump-Elon feud
(11:04):
that happened just a few weeksago, when Mike Johnson, our
embarrassment of a HouseSpeaker, was working to get the
bill approved in the House.
It famously climaxed with ElonMusk accusing Donald Trump of
being in the Epstein files.
Maybe you remember that.
Well, Trump and Elon are at itagain.
(11:26):
Just as the Big Beautiful Billwas on track to pass the Senate,
Elon Musk took to X.
Elon Musk dropped a nuclearbomb.
For some context, this was rightas the Senate was going into its
final vote to approve the BigBeautiful Bill.
(11:47):
Elon Musk wrote this,"...everymember of Congress who
campaigned on reducinggovernment spending and then
immediately voted for thebiggest debt increase in history
should hang their head inshame." and they will lose their
primary next year if it is thelast thing I do on this earth.
(12:12):
That post got 36.4 millionviews, and it sent shockwaves
throughout the country.
But he didn't stop there.
He was in a rage.
He was...
issuing statements like this allday.
He followed up by saying, ifthis insane spending bill
(12:37):
passes, he said in a The AmericaParty will be formed the next
(13:02):
day.
Our country needs an alternativeto the Democrat-Republican
Uniparty so that the peopleactually have a voice.
Now, I agree with Elon Musk1000% that the two-party system
is stupid and corrupt, and thatthe Republicans and Democrats
(13:25):
have formed a uniparty dedicatedto never-ending war,
never-ending spending,never-ending debt, and big
government.
I also agree with him that athird party that's opposed to
all of those things would be awonderful blessing for this
(13:46):
country if it could work.
That's the critical thing,though.
That's the big if.
If it could work.
And I'm not 100% sure that itcould work.
Because unless you could get thevast majority of Republicans to
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join this party, along with asignificant number of
independents, you wouldcatastrophically split the
non-Marxist coalition in two andpotentially hand the Democrats
back control of the country.
That is a very real risk byforming a political party like
(14:31):
this.
But on the other hand, ofcourse, we're currently living
in this cycle where theDemocrats completely wreck the
country when they're in power,and then the Republicans barely
do anything to fix it.
They barely make a dent, andthen the Democrats get back in
power, and they make everythingworse again.
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In some cases, even theRepublicans are actively trying
to destroy the country.
Like for the George W.
Bush administration, whereeverything got worse even though
the Republicans controlledeverything.
So if that cycle continues, thenobviously our country is going
to die, and electing Republicansis just delaying that
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catastrophic collapse andputting off that impending doom.
Whereas with a third party thatactually opposed to these
things, it would be a big risk,but potentially a great reward.
It would have the potential tosave the country.
So I don't know what I thinkabout this proposal to establish
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a third party.
If it ever did happen, we'd haveto see what happened.
But Elon Musk's frustration is100% understandable with the
Republican Party.
You cannot deny that.
You just can't.
You can't deny that theRepublican Party is betraying
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voters and stabbing them in theback and has been doing so for
decades.
That's just a fact.
The idea of Elon Musk's, that'sunquestionably a great thing
though, no doubt about it, itwould be fantastic, is his idea
to primary all of thesebackstabbing traitors who
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promise to cut spending and tocut waste, fraud, and abuse and
then get to D.C.
and vote to do the opposite.
These absolute lying, cheatinglosers who for decades have had
no accountability The threat ofa primary against them is a
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great thing.
These people need to be purgedfrom the Republican Party.
They need to be purged frompower.
And Elon Musk has the money todo this.
And the greatest thing aboutthis is Elon Musk and Donald
Trump are going to be fighting aproxy war in Thomas Massey's
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congressional district.
Thomas Massey, we've talkedabout him a lot on the show.
He's one of the only ones whocame out against this big
beautiful bankruptcy bill, andto punish him, to have revenge
on him for daring to speak outagainst this insane mega bill,
Trump created a super PAC calledKentucky MAGA that is currently
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running ads inside hiscongressional district, spewing
all sorts of lies about him, totry to unseat him, to try to
purge from power the problemchild who won't get in line and
who actually thinks for himselfand has his own principles.
Elon Musk has openly said thathe will be funding Thomas
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Massey's primary against DonaldTrump's establishment super PAC.
So these two men who were onceallies are going to be fighting
it out and Elon Musk has a lotmore money than Donald Trump
does.
A lot more money.
But let's not get too ahead ofourselves, because we're not
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allowed to think like this.
These are forbidden thoughts.
We're not supposed to explorepossibilities like this.
We're not allowed to take ElonMusk's side on this.
We need to trust the plan.
Trump's bankruptcy bill is abrilliant 40 chess move, and
just like the game of Russianroulette he played with American
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lives by bombing Iran, you'renot allowed to ask questions
about it or you're a traitor toMAGA.
Trump supported dropping bombs,Trump supported this bill, so
you're betraying the AmericaFirst movement, we're supposed
to believe, and betraying Trumphimself if you have a different
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But the America First movementdoesn't belong to the President
of the United States.
It doesn't belong to anypolitician.
This movement belongs to you andI.
It belongs to the Americanpeople.
And the American people are fedup with broken promises.
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We gave you your chance.
We would like our movement back.
We should not be buying thisnarrative that we can never
criticize Trump for anythingever and that he's always right
about absolutely everything.
We need to stop pretending thatwhen we know in our hearts, we
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know deep down that that iswrong.
This is what they always saywhenever Trump makes a big
mistake.
A week ago, you weren't allowedto criticize Trump's high-risk,
low-reward decision to bombIran, which never attacked us or
posed a threat to us, eventhough doing so clearly violated
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Trump's promise to put ourcountry first and stay out of
foreign wars.
It didn't turn out ascatastrophically as it could
have, but it was still acompletely unnecessary risk that
we clearly took for the sake ofIsrael instead of the sake of
our own country.
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This week, the thing we're notallowed to criticize, is the big
beautiful bill.
You're not allowed to disagreewith it, even though you know
full well that it clearlyviolates Trump's promise to cut
government waste and reducespending.
And you're also not allowed toquestion why Trump is deporting
illegals at a crawling ratethat's close to the monthly
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averages of the Barack Obamaadministration, even though
Trump promised to mass deportcriminal aliens by the millions.
We can't question any of it, orwe're Trump.
We can't notice that all thesepromises are being broken or
we're betraying Trump.
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But the people who tell you thatare lying to you.
We're not the ones who broke anypromises.
We're not the ones betrayinganyone's trust.
And we're not the ones who havedone a complete 180 on very
important issues.
We don't owe any politicianunquestionable loyalty and
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trust.
In fact, it is our duty asAmericans, as a free people, to
have a healthy dose of cynicismabout the people who run the
government.
We don't owe anyone anything,but I'll tell you who does owe
us something.
His name is Trump.
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He promised to take aflamethrower to government
waste.
He promised no new wars.
He promised ruthless massdeportations.
So he owes us, the Americanpeople, all of those things.
And don't let anyone tell youyou're a traitor for demanding
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what you're owed.
And definitely don't let anyonecall you a rhino or a
never-trumper for that, becauseno one is more pleased with how
Trump has chosen to conduct hisadministration lately than the
old never-trumpers and rhinosand neocons, and no one is more
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disappointed in him than some ofhis most old and fervent
supporters.
We need to face the facts.
Trump ran against theestablishment, but he has become
the establishment.
Trump ran on no new wars, thenimmediately risked starting a
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new war.
Trump ran on America first, hegave us Israel first, at least
with regard to the Iran strikes.
This big beautiful bill is justthe latest in a long, long
string of disappointments.
And You and I need to stoptwisting ourselves into pretzel
shapes, desperately trying torationalize Trump's actions, and
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make excuses for his failures.
How many failures will it take?
How many broken promises will wetolerate before we finally wake
up to this sad truth?
This isn't 40 chess, this isbetrayal.
And the sooner we accept that,the sooner the America First
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