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June 24, 2025 93 mins

Welcome to the second edition of the ControlAI Podcast, hosted by Max Winga!

In this episode Max sits down with Steven Adler, former OpenAI safety researcher who led their dangerous capabilities evaluations and our own Andrea Miotti. Their conversation pulls back the curtain on what's really happening inside the world's top AI company, alarming behaviour across current AI models, the shocking state of internal safety research, and much more.

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