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July 6, 2025 68 mins

Joining the co-hosts for the eighth episode of THE Conversation are guest panelists The Rev. David Kohlmeier, Robin Joyce Miller, and The Rev. Natalie E. Thomas. Rabbi Elias Lieberman, The Rev. Nell Fields, and Carrie Fradkin also appear on the program. The discussion in this edition of THE Conversation primarily focuses on two questions: “How does religion perpetuate racism and racist stereotypes?” and “What is the role of religious institutions in addressing racism?”


A proud native Appalachian, The Rev. David Kohlmeier graduated from West Virginia State University in 2012 with a BA in English Literature and Minors in Philosophy and Writing. He moved to Massachusetts for seminary, graduating from Andover Newton Theological School with a Master of Divinity degree in 2016. 
His seminary also awarded him a Certificate in Interfaith Leadership for his focused study and interfaith work on the Qur’an and Islam and inducted him into the Jonathan Edwards Honor Society. He became the third settled minister of the UU Fellowship of Falmouth in July of 2017.

Robin Joyce Miller is a retired educator, artist, poet, and public speaker, who taught for 30 years in the New York City school system. She spent the first half of her career teaching learning disabled students and the next half as an art teacher. Miller was also a Blueprint for the Arts Facilitator, leading workshops at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Museum of Modern Art, and the Whitney Museum. She attended a Black Congregational Church from the age of five to adulthood. On the Cape, she and her husband, James, attend West Parish of Barnstable UCC. Miller has spoken in the pulpit at several Cape Cod churches. After 
George Floyd’s murder, Robin and her husband began presenting a Black Lives Matter series with the 
Cotuit Center for the Arts, available to the public on YouTube.


The Rev. Natalie E. Thomas began her professional career as a community organizing fellow with 
Life Together, a program for young adults in the Episcopal Church. This inspired Natalie to lead organizing movements in Boston; New Zealand; and Nairobi, Kenya. Natalie is currently the Director of Engagement and Communications at Episcopal City Mission in Boston. She is also a deacon in the Diocese of Massachusetts and an Episcopal Church Fellow serving at St. Barnabas's Memorial Church in Falmouth. She is a co-chair for the Diocese of Massachusetts Racial Justice Commission and the Task Force secretary for Church Planting and Redevelopment for the Sake of New Ministries for The Episcopal Church. Natalie has worked extensively as a teacher and consultant with organizations such as The Harvard Kennedy School, Planned Parenthood, and the California Teachers Association.

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