July 17, 2025 • 25 mins
🎧 The Culture Collective ThoughtCast
🗣️ Episode 1, Part Two: The Era of BullSh!t
Hosted by JuniorTheTruth™ | Powered by The Simple Truth Network™ Welcome to the inaugural episode of The Culture Collective ThoughtCast — where culture thinks out loud. In this opening conversation, JuniorTheTruth™ sits down with special guest Comedian Dre Clark (Dre Clark Comedy Invasion) to explore the disturbing rise of what they call “The Era of BullSh!t.” In Part One, the duo pulls no punches as they tackle:
🔍 The gullibility running rampant in modern culture
📱 How misinformation spreads through social media
🎭 The blurred line between entertainment and deception
🧠 Why critical thinking is at an all-time low This is not your average podcast—this is raw, reflective, and rooted in self-mastery and cultural truth. Whether you’re tired of the smoke or just want a grown conversation, this episode sets the foundation for the thought revolution. 🛒 Visit www.TheTruthShop.com to grab merch and support the movement.
📣 Subscribe, share, and prepare for Part Two.
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🗣️ Episode 1, Part Two: The Era of BullSh!t
Hosted by JuniorTheTruth™ | Powered by The Simple Truth Network™ Welcome to the inaugural episode of The Culture Collective ThoughtCast — where culture thinks out loud. In this opening conversation, JuniorTheTruth™ sits down with special guest Comedian Dre Clark (Dre Clark Comedy Invasion) to explore the disturbing rise of what they call “The Era of BullSh!t.” In Part One, the duo pulls no punches as they tackle:
🔍 The gullibility running rampant in modern culture
📱 How misinformation spreads through social media
🎭 The blurred line between entertainment and deception
🧠 Why critical thinking is at an all-time low This is not your average podcast—this is raw, reflective, and rooted in self-mastery and cultural truth. Whether you’re tired of the smoke or just want a grown conversation, this episode sets the foundation for the thought revolution. 🛒 Visit www.TheTruthShop.com to grab merch and support the movement.
📣 Subscribe, share, and prepare for Part Two.
#ThinkOutLoud
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I definitely get it.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Man. I definitely remember those they asked my mom, is
this true? Or is that true? You know, you know
what they say. You uh, you master, but you go
blind and all that growing up. Yeah, man, yeah, I remember.
I definitely really asking my mom stuff younger about stuff.
But my mom's we don't get the excited, especially especially
(00:25):
when it's like how to spell a word.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
She'll go get the dictionary, look.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It up, you know, uh, because I think like everybody's
people is gullible. Well you see you see with the
come I don't know, I don't want to get this card,
but you see, you know with people in their political views,
you see people that was gullible. Believe y'all one of
(00:53):
them is really believe bigionaire's got your best interest in line. Yeah,
billionaires and millionaires got your best interest in mind. Listen, man,
I listen. I'm in that ninety nine percent of people.
It's only one percent of but I'm in the ninety
nine percent, and everybody need to wake come and realize
you are in that ninety nine percent. You know, it's
only you know, one percent, it's not a lot. Nine
(01:16):
percent is a lot of people. So that's everybody else,
and you got to realize, like, these people do not
have your best interest in mind. Like they said political science,
I got the battles in it. I don't ever be
on in time for political season roll around. I'm not
coming them nothing. I just watch people spread their misinformation
because everybody know everything. Now, you know, I love talk, man,
(01:39):
I know what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna talk.
It's you know, like I said, I always said, politics
to me is like wwe they all hate each other
from the camera.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
When the camera's off, they they friends.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
The kids school they kids go to the same schools.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They kick it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They they in the same country clubs. Yeah yeah, they
go to the same parties. They kick it with one
of the other. They have barbecues and shit at each
other's homes like their families. Their families are intertwined.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, left wing, right wing, same birds, same bird.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And so it's the thing that troubles me with politics
right because you know, at this juncture and we're gonna
get into some trouble now, but it's cool. It's time
to do something new, right because we've been tricked into
this space where it's two political parties. You understand what
I'm saying. That's it. And then you have other independence
(02:36):
and you have Green parties, and you know all these
other different parties that aren't a part of the traditional
democratic republican structure, right, and these other parties are We've
been tricked and duped into thinking we can't take them
seriously because they don't have an opportunity to they don't
have a chance to win.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right. But this is the thing that drives me crazy.
Dre watch this.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We are in this space now where we have the
power of virality, meaning we're able to make things go viral.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You see what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
If we could, if we could, you mean to tell me,
like collectively as a culture, and this is this is
why I get in trouble. This is why I get
shadow band on social media. This is why I get blacklisted,
This is why you know things, My content doesn't reach
the way it's supposed to reach. And it's cool, But
you mean to tell me that we as a collective,
we can make a dance go to what is it,
(03:36):
one hundred two hundred, two hundred and fifty million people,
We can make a dance go global, just a stupid day.
I can't think of the dances that they do now.
But we can make a dance challenge go global to
the tune of five hundred million people and five hundred
million participants. And we can't make a political climate. A
(03:57):
political candidate who has the best interest of the people
in their policies, we can't make them go viral. We've
been duped, bro Like, we've been duped. So you got
five hundred million people that will take the time to
get on their camera, set their camera down and record.
And I'm talking about voting age people. I'm talking about
(04:20):
people of age that can actually vote, and we'll get
on camera and do a dance and share it to
the world for the world to see with a hashtag,
and that reaches five hundred plus million people. But we
can't make a political candidate viral. We can't make a
political candidate popular. It's crazy, Like, it's crazy. We've been trucked.
(04:44):
We've been duped, bro Like, we've been duped. And so
but in the in a but, and it spills beyond
politics right for me, it's just life in general. There's
this big thing that's going on now. I don't know
if you're familiar with the uh, what's his name, Caesar
Pina the him he was doing he was doing a
(05:05):
real estate scam in New York. You might not be
familiar with him, and uh him and uh he had
he was partners with DJ Envy. Oh yeah, and they
were doing and then the brother Tony Robinson, Tony the
Closer was speaking out against it. So Tony the Closer
and and the pocket Watcher.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
With J two. Do you watch the Pocket Watcher with
J T.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I ain't watched the pocket Watch, but I know I
heard the story though about yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So so and this.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'm just using them as an example because his his
his joint is and he's facing federal charges now and
all that good stuff, so I can talk about that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But and tuning people up.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And and also J Morrison with the the what was
the name of it, the Tulsa Real Estate Fund?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You remember that the uh you're not familiar with J.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Morrison and the Tulsa Real Estate Okay, So, so these
are two separate entities, but it's still the same.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's the same storyline.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Basically, you get these people who come out and they
cook up these these scams, if you will, these these
and they pitch it to us to our people, and
our people buy in to the tunes of millions and
millions of dollars. And these scammers take these millions and
millions of dollars and use them, use the million and
(06:24):
use that money to fund their lifestyles as opposed to
returning an investment. And see and Caesar, from what I understand,
he was selling real estate that he didn't own. He
was taking money from people to get real estate deals
and was not producing the real estate deals. Wasn't producing
the real estate properties. He was actually going and sending people,
(06:48):
from what I understand, uh, pictures of of of properties
that he didn't own, but telling them this is theay property,
but not giving them the documents in the paperwork and
so on and so forth. Like it was just it
was just crazy. But I say that to that, We've
never been this gullible, bro. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
we've never been this gullible. It was always you know,
(07:12):
we grew up and it was like if something sounded
too good, it was then or you know how you
and I guarantee you the people in your life, the
people that raised you, right, And I'm telling you broh
No you.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I hadn't been around you forty years. Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The people who raised you, you know, they had something.
It was something about them for fast talking, slick talking motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yep, nickel slick, the nickel slick. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Man, we grew up at the time like you know,
like people say, you know, if it sounds too good
to be true, damn that be true.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Your cat's got that mouth that will ear hush you,
you know, got that mouthpiece will tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Something that sound I'm good. You know, I see that
a lot too.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You see that a lot Nowaday, Because everybody, like you said,
it's the gratification. Everybody want to be rich quick, and
that's why they jump on this stuff and they realize
these people out here hustling.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah man, it's crazy, bro.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And it's like and it's like the thing with like
real estate for instance, right, and those two the Jay
Morrison situation, because Jay Morrison basically he created a crowdfund.
He created a fund for people to buy into, and
people were investing in the fund and he promised a
ridiculous return on investment. But then they were supposed to
(08:35):
be acquiring real estate and then you know, getting and
providing the return based on the equity from the real
estate that was purchased with the fund. But he I think,
I want to say, he might have got like twelve
thirteen million dollars from black people, you feel me, and
ran that up and basically funded his lifestyle, if you will.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And it's that it's not a lot of them do that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, it's a lot of cats. And you see on
it that they do that, you know. I just it's
a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know. It's you know, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Gonna say his name, but it's a certain pro black
uh Pan African that he's a hustler for years.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I made a post about it. Yeah, I made dude,
I made a post about it. I won't gonna say
his name. But then doctor Umar hust Khan man Charlot
nass I made a post about this twenty seventy. I
made the post about and people came there trying to
rip me. I was like, man, I just see too
many red flash with this man. You know, my intuition, yo, yo,
(09:37):
My discernment came over to me like this dude is
he's he's just talking and he sounds smart to dumb niggas.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's what he sounds smart. The dumb niggas. Fact, they think,
oh he could he use these big words. Man, that
dude is a hustler. Where's the school? People donating money?
When you when you do stuff like that, you got
to be transparent with the funds you get. You have
to be.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You can't say I don't worry. Nah, man, I'm donate money.
People donating hard her money. Where's the school, dude?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know chats you know, it's polite all them dudes.
They hustling.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And the thing is, though, and this is the and
I just to just to clarify, you're actually an educator. Yeah,
you're actually an educator. So this is you're not talking
about some ship that you down up. You're actually a teacher.
You're actually an educator and you work in the schools.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I was starting to charter school and he wants to
through it like a charter school whatever. He ain't doing
TARP but his own school. It don't matter. He talking
about the building.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I have seen charter schools open up in the basements
of churches and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Facts. Fact.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So if you want to start a school, you started school.
He hustling, y'all.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Man, So I used to always ask for donations, y'all
funding this man's lifestyle. Yeah, man, they won't. Man, you
gotta call. I don't give a damn who you are.
I'm type person black, white, red, green, la teen or whatever.
Wrong is wrong. Bullshit is bullshit, don't matter color. You've
got to see it. I don't give it down because
he talking on this pro black and he making you know,
(11:08):
people feel good. You know, I don't take the snow
bunnies on.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Even the sisters.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The nigga is a hustler. That's what grifters do. It's
a lot of grifting.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
She's a grift on that side, and me Candice owners
a grip, a grifter on the other side.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
She's just grifting. They get paid.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna say the things these white folks want
to say. I can say because I'm Black and I'm
gonna get paid. And people still ain't caught on it.
This ship, and it be amazing to me how people.
Oh she speaks the truth. Man, Listen, you got to
know the truth to to to get your hustle grew correct,
get your hustle game to get the money you got,
Like you got to know the truth to tell a lie,
(11:45):
because you gotta have bits of the truth in the lie.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
To get people to believe.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That's how you dress it up. Yeah, that's how you
dress it up. And that's crazy. And I and and
we'll say to doctor Umar because there hasn't been any
uh charges or anything so that that's alleged.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We you don't believe. Yeah, we believe he's.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, Hey man, I don't listen, man, the proop is
in the pudding, bro, like you You just said it, Bro,
you just said it and all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And we should do it. We should.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We should do a study and come back and see
how many how many schools have been started in Dayton,
Ohio since what is his school?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Went back to what twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Longer than that, I think it's like twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's been a long time. It's been over decades.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
So we should since the inception of the idea of
the what is it Marcus Garvey Frederick Douglas Academy or
so we should we should do a study and see
how many schools just in Dayton, Ohio have been started
since the inception of that idea, because like you said,
like because it has to be a charter school, right,
because it's a public school, but it's not a it's
not in a school district. So I believe that would
(12:54):
it would have to be a private school or a
charter school.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think he wanted to pry because he didn't want
to charge. The charter's still got bashed some things to
the states, so I think he won't try.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
To private Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
So so how many private schools have have been built
since then? Because my kids actually go to one. My
kids go to a school that's been founded since then,
you know what I mean. So I you know, at
the end of the day, man, it's just you know,
at the end, the truth is, it is what it is.
And like I said, these people, we've never been this gullible, man,
(13:28):
We've never been this gullible.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And it's and it's you get a you get.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A man who comes up and he just start talking
good and he uses big words and he talks from
a position of authority and people listen and it's just
like the it's just like the preachers, you know, what
I mean. People, they run them up and they reaching
their pockets. You know what I'm saying. Some of the
biggest bullshit niggas I know in the world are pastors.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Like I'm just.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Man, Some of the biggest bullshit niggas I know in
the world are pastors. This is no, this is this
is with all disrespect fuck it, yeah, with all disrespectfully,
some of the biggest bullshit niggas I know are pastors.
And that's just their pastors or bishops or whatever, their
(14:15):
clergymen me and of the cough whatever you want to
call them. You understand what I'm saying. And so it's
uh until that point, like you know, they get up
and they have authoritative to take authoritative positions and people listen,
because we have never been this gullible. Bro, when we
(14:35):
grew up. Bro, think about this, bro, think about when
we grew up. You can't you can't name no more
than probably five preachers from when we grew up on
the West side of Day in Ohio. You can't name
no more than maybe five to ten preachers. Think about it, bro.
You had you had mel Calvary, Reverend Winston, you have
you had a pastor Reverend Parker over Shiloh.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I know, Reverend Bird and Calvary Reverend Bird.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, that's three.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Then the church I went to as a kid temple,
it was the I don't know the pastor.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I just go to Suny School. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That was out beside the pind College church. Man I
grew up in. They was we can call them what
the motherfolks is crazy? Okay, it's just all I can
tell you. But we used to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Man. You just had yeah, man, but we had, but
it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
But but I'm talking about as far as people who
we pastors that you like, you probably had maybe five,
It wasn't damn damn sure one, no more than but
it was five. And now fast forward to twenty twenty five, Bro,
it's fucking fifty. It's probably I probably got two hundred
and fifty pastors on my friends list.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I got a few of them, or the mega
the mega of the mega churches.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know, you know we had some we can you know,
Billy Graham, and but now it's like, shoot, I can
name a bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Mega church type celebrity passes Jamar Brian to t.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
JS to Benny henbout them dollars?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Uh, what's the name?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Who's the Who's the one preacher that was having the
ceremonies with the little boys for your dad?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I can't call his name? And then let.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And what's the dude that be cheating? He got cheating?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Who the one dude bought his wife or a Bentley
or something because he got caught?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What's yeah? I can't do that. Dude's name grey?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Great? Is it josh Gray? Joshua Gray or something.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Like that, Yeah, something like Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's like a lot of things. You and you tell
people what they want to hear. They cool with it.
You tell them, you know, it may not be a lot.
You're telling them. You're not telling them the whole truth.
You're just telling them the truth that you know. People
be wanting the truth, but they don't. They want the
nice truth. They want the stuf that makes them feel good,
but the truth is ugly. It hurts sometimes, man. Sometimes
(17:05):
you hear the truth about this lf, you gotta sit
there and be like, damn man, that dang it makes
you still like that you know I've been told the
truth Sometimes like damn man, you know it hurt, you
know it just makes you. It's supposed to honestly that
type of but people tell you truth. It's supposed to
motivate you, the one to correct the things that's wrong
with you. But now everybody just wanted to hear the
(17:26):
truth that makes them feel good and pacify they bullshit behavior, right.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And so like if I was, if I was, if
I was, if I was practicing, Let's say I was
an active practitioner of Christian faith, right, the truth would be, Man,
God ain't listening to your bullshit prayers, bro, Yeah, he didn't.
Already gave you dominion over the earth, gave you dominion
(17:53):
over the earth, so he not listening. He not God,
not Feinna, not God, not Finna. Make a man of
grow Manna come up in the grass so you can
pay your DP and L so you can pay yo
yo yo yo yo bill.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
He ain't finna.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
He ain't finna make mana on the grass so you
can pay your crickety bill by Friday. He gave you
a dominion over the earth to be able to make
things happen.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That's the shit, Like, nah, nigga, Like the problem is
you like don't nobody want to hear that, Like you're
the problem. You know what I'm saying, Your mindset is
the is the issue. You feel me like you don't
have the things that you want in your life because
you haven't decided to go get them and you haven't
become the person that you need to become. Like it's
the truth hurts man and I and the damnest thing
(18:38):
about And I just came to me last week, Bro,
I was meditating and so I was it really was
heavy on me in this are people being so lost
and people being so gullible, And I was thinking about
how people will go and die on the sword, about
their pastor or about a man who's in that in
(18:59):
that space and what it has come. And it was
the whole meme of with Smackwater salute to the Homy Smack.
Smackwater got it. I don't know if you've seen that.
You know who Smackwater is, dude from Houston, cake ass
niggad be saying, cake Ass nigga, you ain't hit the smack.
So so Smack was doing a Smack was doing an
interview and he was saying he was talking arguing about
(19:22):
religion and then he was saying, you know how people
say God told me to tell you. You know what I'm saying.
He was going, He said, man, God ain't told you
to tell me nothing, cake ass nigga. God got my
line directly. You feel me, and so like my thing
with with the whole, with with the whole traditional and
what religion has become is that you're sold on the
(19:43):
thought that this is us being gullible. You're sold on
the thought that in order to access God, the creator
of all things, the omnipotent Spirit, the for me, the
great Spirit, the Creator, in order to go and and
access God, I have to go through another man.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I got a problem with that. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I gotta, I gotta so, I have to I have
to write, I have to act because even in Catholicism, Catholicism,
you look at it, they gotta go in and they
do confessions. You gotta go confess your deepest, darkest sins
to a sinner. You understand what I'm saying. You're going
to confess your deepest and darkest sins to a motherfucker
that's fresh offul little boy, bootie, you feel me, and
(20:26):
you like you gotta go confess your sins to a sinner,
and and it's it's the same thing with with with
with Christianity, Like you're supposed to go and leverage your
relationship with the Creator with another man. But this is
the this is the trick though for me, Like Bro,
(20:46):
I don't trust a man with my relationship with my woman,
you feel me? So, how is the fuck am I
gonna trust a man with my relationship with the creator
of all things?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like Bro, I'm not finna leverage.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I'm not finna go and access you and come to
you in order to access God.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Bro, Like what the That don't even make sense?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That don't for a person that thinks like me, like
my for my thought process the way I'm wired. Not
saying I think more than anybody else, I'm talking about
the way I think, Like Bro, that does not make
sense to my mind. That shit can't compute, you feel me,
I'm supposed to come access you or come see you
in order to have access to the Creator.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That don't make sense.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
When the Creator wakes me up and the Creator puts
things in my heart and I am genetically, I am genetically.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
We all are genetically engineered.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
To have access to the feel me, things that you feel,
things that you know, things that you know in your
head brain and your real brain, which is your guts.
Like like, bro, we are genetically engineered to already have
that connection, So why the fuck me having to go
to the go to another man that's a man made
manufacture shit in order to control something. You understand what
(22:04):
I'm saying. And that's the stuff that I have a
problem with. And so I don't conform to a lot
of things. But that was just that's that's what was
heavy on me because I'm like, because I had to
think about it, like literally, and it came to me
just like that Drew. I was like, man, I don't
trust a man with my relationship with my woman. Bro,
you think I'm gonna trust a man with my relationship
with God? It's over with.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
But I'm glad you came on this top because I've
been on this my last few years. I've been on
this spiritual awaiting, trying to understand about why are we
here in the universe?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
What is God? What is the source? What you know?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Why are we here?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
And I've just been looking at a lot of stuff
and looking at you know, nacissism, the lost you know,
books of the Bible, reading it. Once you read those stuff,
you start realizing, man, what we've been lied to? If
we've all been lied to?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Because what's in God? What's in God's in you already?
That's what people need to understand, like you have the
source in you. You have to wake it up.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And I think a lot of people, you know, like
I said, we live in time where you know, people gullible.
They don't want to do the work for theirself, so
they'll believe whatever pass the man tell them. But when
you start doing the research and the work in yourself, man,
you start realizing stuff like waking up. You know, it's
like he said, waking up, you know, your third eye.
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You start seeing things what they are, and you start,
you know, reading, like I mean, reading them lost books
in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Really if they put the you know, Ethiopian.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Bible still has these books like the Book of Eot,
you know, the Gospel.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Of Mary Magdalene and all this.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Man, once you read those stuff and start realizing, Man, God,
what's in God is in you already?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You have to awaken it.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I and I think people think, oh, I got
to go to past the man I need to go
to church.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Man, you don't. Church is a hustle. Let's be I'm
gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Going to church with a lot of these churches, but
they always ask for donation because my thing is Maul
always said, why are we donate money? Talking about this
is guy's money. What do the Supreme Being need with
our money? If he is Supreme Being, why does he
need our money?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That makes sense?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Like if people don't wake up and realize that, like yo,
like the Supreme Being.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
He he always he all every week he need a donation.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's like Supreme ping got a co cabit or something
because he always needs damn money.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You feel me?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Gracious?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Watch this bro in the in the in the in
the when we're gonna talk about Christianity, in the Christianity,
in the Christianity doctrine, who are you supposed to be like?
Who you supposed to Who are you aspiring to be
most like?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like? Uh? Christ like Christ?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Right?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
So when if we're aspiring to be most like and
be Christ Like? Right, and they tell you that you
that you need to do get the money in order
to do the work of God?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right? Did Christ have money to do his work.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You didn't have money.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Christ, if we're trying, if we're supposed to be most
like you know, and do his work, he did his
work with no money.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, So it's so we're doing something else, you know
what I mean, something else is going on, like something
else is afoot. Something else is afoot, and and and
it's and it's all and not all preachers and pastors
are bad, you know what I'm saying. Let's let's let's
be clear about that. And there are some who really
actually do the works of the spirit, you know what
I mean. And the ones that I know, and this
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is me personally, the ones that I know that are
the most effective and the most genuine and the most
connected are broke bye bye by staying by intense and purposes,
falling to His purpose. They don't have a bunch of resources, yeah,
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I definitely get it.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Man. I definitely remember those they asked my mom, is
this true? Or is that true? You know, you know
what they say. You uh, you master, but you go
blind and all that growing up. Yeah, man, yeah, I remember.
I definitely really asking my mom stuff younger about stuff.
But my mom's we don't get the excited, especially especially
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when it's like how to spell a word.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
She'll go get the dictionary, look.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It up, you know, uh, because I think like everybody's
people is gullible. Well you see you see with the
come I don't know, I don't want to get this card,
but you see, you know with people in their political views,
you see people that was gullible. Believe y'all one of
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them is really believe bigionaire's got your best interest in line. Yeah,
billionaires and millionaires got your best interest in mind. Listen, man,
I listen. I'm in that ninety nine percent of people.
It's only one percent of but I'm in the ninety
nine percent, and everybody need to wake come and realize
you are in that ninety nine percent. You know, it's
only you know, one percent, it's not a lot. Nine
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percent is a lot of people. So that's everybody else,
and you got to realize, like, these people do not
have your best interest in mind. Like they said political science,
I got the battles in it. I don't ever be
on in time for political season roll around. I'm not
coming them nothing. I just watch people spread their misinformation
because everybody know everything. Now, you know, I love talk, man,
(01:39):
I know what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna talk.
It's you know, like I said, I always said, politics
to me is like wwe they all hate each other
from the camera.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
When the camera's off, they they friends.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
The kids school they kids go to the same schools.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They kick it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
They they in the same country clubs. Yeah yeah, they
go to the same parties. They kick it with one
of the other. They have barbecues and shit at each
other's homes like their families. Their families are intertwined.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, left wing, right wing, same birds, same bird.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
And so it's the thing that troubles me with politics
right because you know, at this juncture and we're gonna
get into some trouble now, but it's cool. It's time
to do something new, right because we've been tricked into
this space where it's two political parties. You understand what
I'm saying. That's it. And then you have other independence
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and you have Green parties, and you know all these
other different parties that aren't a part of the traditional
democratic republican structure, right, and these other parties are We've
been tricked and duped into thinking we can't take them
seriously because they don't have an opportunity to they don't
have a chance to win.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right. But this is the thing that drives me crazy.
Dre watch this.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
We are in this space now where we have the
power of virality, meaning we're able to make things go viral.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You see what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
If we could, if we could, you mean to tell me,
like collectively as a culture, and this is this is
why I get in trouble. This is why I get
shadow band on social media. This is why I get blacklisted,
This is why you know things, My content doesn't reach
the way it's supposed to reach. And it's cool, But
you mean to tell me that we as a collective,
we can make a dance go to what is it,
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one hundred two hundred, two hundred and fifty million people,
We can make a dance go global, just a stupid day.
I can't think of the dances that they do now.
But we can make a dance challenge go global to
the tune of five hundred million people and five hundred
million participants. And we can't make a political climate. A
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political candidate who has the best interest of the people
in their policies, we can't make them go viral. We've
been duped, bro Like, we've been duped. So you got
five hundred million people that will take the time to
get on their camera, set their camera down and record.
And I'm talking about voting age people. I'm talking about
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people of age that can actually vote, and we'll get
on camera and do a dance and share it to
the world for the world to see with a hashtag,
and that reaches five hundred plus million people. But we
can't make a political candidate viral. We can't make a
political candidate popular. It's crazy, Like, it's crazy. We've been trucked.
(04:44):
We've been duped, bro Like, we've been duped. And so
but in the in a but, and it spills beyond
politics right for me, it's just life in general. There's
this big thing that's going on now. I don't know
if you're familiar with the uh, what's his name, Caesar
Pina the him he was doing he was doing a
(05:05):
real estate scam in New York. You might not be
familiar with him, and uh him and uh he had
he was partners with DJ Envy. Oh yeah, and they
were doing and then the brother Tony Robinson, Tony the
Closer was speaking out against it. So Tony the Closer
and and the pocket Watcher.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
With J two. Do you watch the Pocket Watcher with
J T.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I ain't watched the pocket Watch, but I know I
heard the story though about yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So so and this.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I'm just using them as an example because his his
his joint is and he's facing federal charges now and
all that good stuff, so I can talk about that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But and tuning people up.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And and also J Morrison with the the what was
the name of it, the Tulsa Real Estate Fund?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You remember that the uh you're not familiar with J.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Morrison and the Tulsa Real Estate Okay, So, so these
are two separate entities, but it's still the same.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's the same storyline.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Basically, you get these people who come out and they
cook up these these scams, if you will, these these
and they pitch it to us to our people, and
our people buy in to the tunes of millions and
millions of dollars. And these scammers take these millions and
millions of dollars and use them, use the million and
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use that money to fund their lifestyles as opposed to
returning an investment. And see and Caesar, from what I understand,
he was selling real estate that he didn't own. He
was taking money from people to get real estate deals
and was not producing the real estate deals. Wasn't producing
the real estate properties. He was actually going and sending people,
(06:48):
from what I understand, uh, pictures of of of properties
that he didn't own, but telling them this is theay property,
but not giving them the documents in the paperwork and
so on and so forth. Like it was just it
was just crazy. But I say that to that, We've
never been this gullible, bro. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
we've never been this gullible. It was always you know,
(07:12):
we grew up and it was like if something sounded
too good, it was then or you know how you
and I guarantee you the people in your life, the
people that raised you, right, And I'm telling you broh
No you.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I hadn't been around you forty years. Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
The people who raised you, you know, they had something.
It was something about them for fast talking, slick talking motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yep, nickel slick, the nickel slick. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Man, we grew up at the time like you know,
like people say, you know, if it sounds too good
to be true, damn that be true.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Your cat's got that mouth that will ear hush you,
you know, got that mouthpiece will tell you.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Something that sound I'm good. You know, I see that
a lot too.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You see that a lot Nowaday, Because everybody, like you said,
it's the gratification. Everybody want to be rich quick, and
that's why they jump on this stuff and they realize
these people out here hustling.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah man, it's crazy, bro.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And it's like and it's like the thing with like
real estate for instance, right, and those two the Jay
Morrison situation, because Jay Morrison basically he created a crowdfund.
He created a fund for people to buy into, and
people were investing in the fund and he promised a
ridiculous return on investment. But then they were supposed to
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be acquiring real estate and then you know, getting and
providing the return based on the equity from the real
estate that was purchased with the fund. But he I think,
I want to say, he might have got like twelve
thirteen million dollars from black people, you feel me, and
ran that up and basically funded his lifestyle, if you will.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And it's that it's not a lot of them do that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, it's a lot of cats. And you see on
it that they do that, you know. I just it's
a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know. It's you know, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Gonna say his name, but it's a certain pro black
uh Pan African that he's a hustler for years.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I made a post about it. Yeah, I made dude,
I made a post about it. I won't gonna say
his name. But then doctor Umar hust Khan man Charlot
nass I made a post about this twenty seventy. I
made the post about and people came there trying to
rip me. I was like, man, I just see too
many red flash with this man. You know, my intuition, yo, yo,
(09:37):
My discernment came over to me like this dude is
he's he's just talking and he sounds smart to dumb niggas.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's what he sounds smart. The dumb niggas. Fact, they think,
oh he could he use these big words. Man, that
dude is a hustler. Where's the school? People donating money?
When you when you do stuff like that, you got
to be transparent with the funds you get. You have
to be.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You can't say I don't worry. Nah, man, I'm donate money.
People donating hard her money. Where's the school, dude?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know chats you know, it's polite all them dudes.
They hustling.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And the thing is, though, and this is the and
I just to just to clarify, you're actually an educator. Yeah,
you're actually an educator. So this is you're not talking
about some ship that you down up. You're actually a teacher.
You're actually an educator and you work in the schools.
You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I was starting to charter school and he wants to
through it like a charter school whatever. He ain't doing
TARP but his own school. It don't matter. He talking
about the building.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I have seen charter schools open up in the basements
of churches and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Facts. Fact.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
So if you want to start a school, you started school.
He hustling, y'all.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Man, So I used to always ask for donations, y'all
funding this man's lifestyle. Yeah, man, they won't. Man, you
gotta call. I don't give a damn who you are.
I'm type person black, white, red, green, la teen or whatever.
Wrong is wrong. Bullshit is bullshit, don't matter color. You've
got to see it. I don't give it down because
he talking on this pro black and he making you know,
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people feel good. You know, I don't take the snow
bunnies on.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Even the sisters.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
The nigga is a hustler. That's what grifters do. It's
a lot of grifting.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
She's a grift on that side, and me Candice owners
a grip, a grifter on the other side.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
She's just grifting. They get paid.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna say the things these white folks want
to say. I can say because I'm Black and I'm
gonna get paid. And people still ain't caught on it.
This ship, and it be amazing to me how people.
Oh she speaks the truth. Man, Listen, you got to
know the truth to to to get your hustle grew correct,
get your hustle game to get the money you got,
Like you got to know the truth to tell a lie,
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because you gotta have bits of the truth in the lie.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
To get people to believe.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That's how you dress it up. Yeah, that's how you
dress it up. And that's crazy. And I and and
we'll say to doctor Umar because there hasn't been any
uh charges or anything so that that's alleged.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We you don't believe. Yeah, we believe he's.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, Hey man, I don't listen, man, the proop is
in the pudding, bro, like you You just said it, Bro,
you just said it and all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And we should do it. We should.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We should do a study and come back and see
how many how many schools have been started in Dayton,
Ohio since what is his school?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Went back to what twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Longer than that, I think it's like twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's been a long time. It's been over decades.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
So we should since the inception of the idea of
the what is it Marcus Garvey Frederick Douglas Academy or
so we should we should do a study and see
how many schools just in Dayton, Ohio have been started
since the inception of that idea, because like you said,
like because it has to be a charter school, right,
because it's a public school, but it's not a it's
not in a school district. So I believe that would
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it would have to be a private school or a
charter school.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think he wanted to pry because he didn't want
to charge. The charter's still got bashed some things to
the states, so I think he won't try.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
To private Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
So so how many private schools have have been built
since then? Because my kids actually go to one. My
kids go to a school that's been founded since then,
you know what I mean. So I you know, at
the end of the day, man, it's just you know,
at the end, the truth is, it is what it is.
And like I said, these people, we've never been this gullible, man,
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We've never been this gullible.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And it's and it's you get a you get.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A man who comes up and he just start talking
good and he uses big words and he talks from
a position of authority and people listen and it's just
like the it's just like the preachers, you know, what
I mean. People, they run them up and they reaching
their pockets. You know what I'm saying. Some of the
biggest bullshit niggas I know in the world are pastors.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Like I'm just.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Man, Some of the biggest bullshit niggas I know in
the world are pastors. This is no, this is this
is with all disrespect fuck it, yeah, with all disrespectfully,
some of the biggest bullshit niggas I know are pastors.
And that's just their pastors or bishops or whatever, their
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clergymen me and of the cough whatever you want to
call them. You understand what I'm saying. And so it's
uh until that point, like you know, they get up
and they have authoritative to take authoritative positions and people listen,
because we have never been this gullible. Bro, when we
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grew up. Bro, think about this, bro, think about when
we grew up. You can't you can't name no more
than probably five preachers from when we grew up on
the West side of Day in Ohio. You can't name
no more than maybe five to ten preachers. Think about it, bro.
You had you had mel Calvary, Reverend Winston, you have
you had a pastor Reverend Parker over Shiloh.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I know, Reverend Bird and Calvary Reverend Bird.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, that's three.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Then the church I went to as a kid temple,
it was the I don't know the pastor.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I just go to Suny School. Man.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That was out beside the pind College church. Man I
grew up in. They was we can call them what
the motherfolks is crazy? Okay, it's just all I can
tell you. But we used to be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Man. You just had yeah, man, but we had, but
it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
But but I'm talking about as far as people who
we pastors that you like, you probably had maybe five,
It wasn't damn damn sure one, no more than but
it was five. And now fast forward to twenty twenty five, Bro,
it's fucking fifty. It's probably I probably got two hundred
and fifty pastors on my friends list.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I got a few of them, or the mega
the mega of the mega churches.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know, you know we had some we can you know,
Billy Graham, and but now it's like, shoot, I can
name a bunch of them.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Mega church type celebrity passes Jamar Brian to t.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
JS to Benny henbout them dollars?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Uh, what's the name?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Who's the Who's the one preacher that was having the
ceremonies with the little boys for your dad?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I can't call his name? And then let.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And what's the dude that be cheating? He got cheating?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Who the one dude bought his wife or a Bentley
or something because he got caught?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What's yeah? I can't do that. Dude's name grey?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Great? Is it josh Gray? Joshua Gray or something.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Like that, Yeah, something like Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's like a lot of things. You and you tell
people what they want to hear. They cool with it.
You tell them, you know, it may not be a lot.
You're telling them. You're not telling them the whole truth.
You're just telling them the truth that you know. People
be wanting the truth, but they don't. They want the
nice truth. They want the stuf that makes them feel good,
but the truth is ugly. It hurts sometimes, man. Sometimes
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you hear the truth about this lf, you gotta sit
there and be like, damn man, that dang it makes
you still like that you know I've been told the
truth Sometimes like damn man, you know it hurt, you
know it just makes you. It's supposed to honestly that
type of but people tell you truth. It's supposed to
motivate you, the one to correct the things that's wrong
with you. But now everybody just wanted to hear the
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truth that makes them feel good and pacify they bullshit behavior, right.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And so like if I was, if I was, if
I was, if I was practicing, Let's say I was
an active practitioner of Christian faith, right, the truth would be, Man,
God ain't listening to your bullshit prayers, bro, Yeah, he didn't.
Already gave you dominion over the earth, gave you dominion
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over the earth, so he not listening. He not God,
not Feinna, not God, not Finna. Make a man of
grow Manna come up in the grass so you can
pay your DP and L so you can pay yo
yo yo yo yo bill.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
He ain't finna.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
He ain't finna make mana on the grass so you
can pay your crickety bill by Friday. He gave you
a dominion over the earth to be able to make
things happen.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
That's the shit, Like, nah, nigga, Like the problem is
you like don't nobody want to hear that, Like you're
the problem. You know what I'm saying, Your mindset is
the is the issue. You feel me like you don't
have the things that you want in your life because
you haven't decided to go get them and you haven't
become the person that you need to become. Like it's
the truth hurts man and I and the damnest thing
(18:38):
about And I just came to me last week, Bro,
I was meditating and so I was it really was
heavy on me in this are people being so lost
and people being so gullible, And I was thinking about
how people will go and die on the sword, about
their pastor or about a man who's in that in
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that space and what it has come. And it was
the whole meme of with Smackwater salute to the Homy Smack.
Smackwater got it. I don't know if you've seen that.
You know who Smackwater is, dude from Houston, cake ass
niggad be saying, cake Ass nigga, you ain't hit the smack.
So so Smack was doing a Smack was doing an
interview and he was saying he was talking arguing about
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religion and then he was saying, you know how people
say God told me to tell you. You know what I'm saying.
He was going, He said, man, God ain't told you
to tell me nothing, cake ass nigga. God got my
line directly. You feel me, and so like my thing
with with the whole, with with the whole traditional and
what religion has become is that you're sold on the
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thought that this is us being gullible. You're sold on
the thought that in order to access God, the creator
of all things, the omnipotent Spirit, the for me, the
great Spirit, the Creator, in order to go and and
access God, I have to go through another man.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I got a problem with that. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I gotta, I gotta so, I have to I have
to write, I have to act because even in Catholicism, Catholicism,
you look at it, they gotta go in and they
do confessions. You gotta go confess your deepest, darkest sins
to a sinner. You understand what I'm saying. You're going
to confess your deepest and darkest sins to a motherfucker
that's fresh offul little boy, bootie, you feel me, and
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you like you gotta go confess your sins to a sinner,
and and it's it's the same thing with with with
with Christianity, Like you're supposed to go and leverage your
relationship with the Creator with another man. But this is
the this is the trick though for me, Like Bro,
(20:46):
I don't trust a man with my relationship with my woman,
you feel me? So, how is the fuck am I
gonna trust a man with my relationship with the creator
of all things?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Like Bro, I'm not finna leverage.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I'm not finna go and access you and come to
you in order to access God.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Bro, Like what the That don't even make sense?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
That don't for a person that thinks like me, like
my for my thought process the way I'm wired. Not
saying I think more than anybody else, I'm talking about
the way I think, Like Bro, that does not make
sense to my mind. That shit can't compute, you feel me,
I'm supposed to come access you or come see you
in order to have access to the Creator.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That don't make sense.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
When the Creator wakes me up and the Creator puts
things in my heart and I am genetically, I am genetically.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
We all are genetically engineered.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
To have access to the feel me, things that you feel,
things that you know, things that you know in your
head brain and your real brain, which is your guts.
Like like, bro, we are genetically engineered to already have
that connection, So why the fuck me having to go
to the go to another man that's a man made
manufacture shit in order to control something. You understand what
(22:04):
I'm saying. And that's the stuff that I have a
problem with. And so I don't conform to a lot
of things. But that was just that's that's what was
heavy on me because I'm like, because I had to
think about it, like literally, and it came to me
just like that Drew. I was like, man, I don't
trust a man with my relationship with my woman. Bro,
you think I'm gonna trust a man with my relationship
with God? It's over with.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
But I'm glad you came on this top because I've
been on this my last few years. I've been on
this spiritual awaiting, trying to understand about why are we
here in the universe?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
What is God? What is the source? What you know?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Why are we here?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
And I've just been looking at a lot of stuff
and looking at you know, nacissism, the lost you know,
books of the Bible, reading it. Once you read those stuff,
you start realizing, man, what we've been lied to? If
we've all been lied to?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Because what's in God? What's in God's in you already?
That's what people need to understand, like you have the
source in you. You have to wake it up.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
And I think a lot of people, you know, like
I said, we live in time where you know, people gullible.
They don't want to do the work for theirself, so
they'll believe whatever pass the man tell them. But when
you start doing the research and the work in yourself, man,
you start realizing stuff like waking up. You know, it's
like he said, waking up, you know, your third eye.
(23:27):
You start seeing things what they are, and you start,
you know, reading, like I mean, reading them lost books
in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Really if they put the you know, Ethiopian.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Bible still has these books like the Book of Eot,
you know, the Gospel.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Of Mary Magdalene and all this.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Man, once you read those stuff and start realizing, Man, God,
what's in God is in you already?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You have to awaken it.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And I and I think people think, oh, I got
to go to past the man I need to go
to church.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Man, you don't. Church is a hustle. Let's be I'm
gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Going to church with a lot of these churches, but
they always ask for donation because my thing is Maul
always said, why are we donate money? Talking about this
is guy's money. What do the Supreme Being need with
our money? If he is Supreme Being, why does he
need our money?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That makes sense?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Like if people don't wake up and realize that, like yo,
like the Supreme Being.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
He he always he all every week he need a donation.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's like Supreme ping got a co cabit or something
because he always needs damn money.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You feel me?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Gracious?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Watch this bro in the in the in the in
the when we're gonna talk about Christianity, in the Christianity,
in the Christianity doctrine, who are you supposed to be like?
Who you supposed to Who are you aspiring to be
most like?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like? Uh? Christ like Christ?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Right?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
So when if we're aspiring to be most like and
be Christ Like? Right, and they tell you that you
that you need to do get the money in order
to do the work of God?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right? Did Christ have money to do his work.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You didn't have money.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Christ, if we're trying, if we're supposed to be most
like you know, and do his work, he did his
work with no money.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yeah, So it's so we're doing something else, you know
what I mean, something else is going on, like something
else is afoot. Something else is afoot, and and and
it's and it's all and not all preachers and pastors
are bad, you know what I'm saying. Let's let's let's
be clear about that. And there are some who really
actually do the works of the spirit, you know what
I mean. And the ones that I know, and this
(25:41):
is me personally, the ones that I know that are
the most effective and the most genuine and the most
connected are broke bye bye by staying by intense and purposes,
falling to His purpose. They don't have a bunch of resources, yeah,
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